2017 BMW i3 94ah Review - Inside Lane
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- This is the new 2017 BMW i3 94ah Range Extender and it now has a 243 mile range. A new 94ah battery means that it can also be charged from a DC socket up to 80% in just 40 minutes. The electric motor produces 168bhp and it will do 0-62mph in 8.3 seconds. The Rex, or range extender, is a small 2 cylinder engine that acts as a generator when the battery is low.
Seating 4 adults, the new BMW i3 has a spacious interior and its silent running is very relaxing. The latest incarnation of iDrive infotainment is easy to use and offers everything from satellite navigation to DAB radio and streaming services. There is also a smartphone app that can be uses as a remote for the car.
The 2017 BMW i3 94ah costs from £27,830 (with UK government electric car grant) or the Range Extender from £30,980.
We've just road tested BMW's new X7: th-cam.com/video/1-IpVNZwtfw/w-d-xo.html
I have a 94ah i3 with range extender, I absolutely love it but no way does it do 240 miles!
Yes, it can do 240 miles especially in the city when you are braking all the time. If its warm outside and the battery has heated up you can get 115 miles out of the battery before the REx kicks in at 6%, the REx will add an additional 120 miles or so on just 2.4 gallons of gas.
Yeah, I'd agree with that mate lol, still a bloody nice car though
@@mamadouaziza2536 not here in Scotland it won't lol, but saying that, I only commute a few miles a day so I get the chance to rag it without worrying about range!! 👍
This car is the first car that I've owned. So impressed with the build video's that after a short drive, I paid cash and put my money where my mouth was and bought the 94 BEV. The car is brilliant, so nice to drive, with it's high vantage view. Even in the rear, it is still good to look out of, with good visibility even looking forward. This is one of the few video's that I've watched where I did not think the opinion differs from mine. When more places in the UK have good reliable chargers, my choice of going for pure electric will be vindicated.
Great review of the BMW i3. Answered all my questions and has persuaded me that this car will be my first electric car.
+Robert Balcombe Thanks! Glad the video helped you.
Did you buy one?
It's not an electric car. FYI. I own two Teslas...those are electric. This, for some reason, will definitely use GAS especially in cold weather.
For 50k...the i3 should have given everyone 200 miles of range and just left out the gasoline motor.
@@MH-wm6df I'm looking at these used, and I'm solidly against the range extender. If I go electric, I'm going fully electric. But the mileage hit is pretty massive. I'm thinking the compromise is that I'll be renting a combustion car for long trips, but I rarely touch upon 100 miles in a routine day. The '17 Chevy Bolt has way longer range at a similar price, but I really like the feel of the i3 better. Decisions, decisions!
ive just bought mine a week ago and people are coming up to me and asking to have a look and what do I think
Coach doors is an alternative to suicide doors 👍
Haha! Thanks. I've always called them suicide doors but then I thought there was no way BMW market them as that.
Imagine how much will the range increase in another 2 years!!! At last! This really looks like the end of the combustion nonsense...
I always find it funny some are so against various forms of propulsion. Especially the ones that created so much for so many. The sky is not falling.
Fantastic package this is. Well done BMW.
This is what hybrids should be, an electric motor as the main drive and a small ICE used for emergency charging. Pure electric is best for efficiency and weight compared to hybrids.
It's always puzzled me why Range Extenders aren't given more attention. They have the best of both worlds, electric and gas. Plus, unlike your typical gas car, in a range extender the engine is always working in its sweet spot, allowing it greater fuel efficiency and less wear. This way you have the benefits of an electric plugin, but get the added range of a gas car when needed. You'll save a ton on a gas.
japzone It is less effective to use a gas motor to create electricity to drive an electric motor that then drives the car. Range extenders have far less range than a real hybrid car. It is more to relieve buyers of range anxiety. This new battery makes the range extender useless for daily commutes.
Hybrids use an ottoman engine design rather than a regular 4 stroke design. They only provide drive after the initial trust from the electric motor so it can operate at an optimum RPM.
What they dont tell you is that tiny generators are range EXTENDERS meaning, you can still run out of charge and be left standing still. If you want to go long distances, it simply wont do it. You want a PROPER hybrid where the petrol motor drives the rear wheels and the electric powers the front. when the battery runs down you still have an actual engine to move your car. It is the literal 'best of both worlds'.
@@DonTHEhandsome1 no it does not lol my friend had to change her 2017 bev for the rex version after a week because she travels 50 mile to work and 50 mile back...that's a daily commute and it barely had enough battery to do both journeys
Love my c-max energi. 600 miles full tank of gas and 25 miles full battery.
Can switch between hybrid, all electric, all gas while driving. Fun car.
I just test drove one of these for the fun of it. It was my first actual drive in an EV besides a golf cart. Fortunately I had watched a few videos prior. Those videos allowed me to be aware of the regen braking etc. I agree with your assessment. Easy to drive, decent handling (I do own an E46/M3 SMG) and plenty of accel for the city and even the highway. Its ease of driving could be great as a grocery getter and beyond.
I would have liked to see some comments on the real world range of the electric under load (colder weather, with air conditioning, with heater and heated seats, etc)
BMW also publish what they call a "real world range". How they come up with this figure I'm not sure. But the idea is that the i3 REx should be able to do about 217 miles in "worst case scenario" conditions.
Inside Lane over 200 miles of real-world range??? (battery plus gas-powered range extender). Sounds awesome yet incredibly unrealistic... Am I wrong in me cynical skepticism? Most importantly, are you yourself seeing this 217 mile range as an average daily or during test driving?
I'm wasn't a million miles off, but it is hard to judge because I spent half of the week on motorway and the other around town. I plugged it in every night out of habit with other electric cars.
Inside Lane well, for us shopping, the prospect of 200 mile range is worth a test drive at the local dealership to sort out the info. Thanks for the review and the quick replies. Cheers.
You are welcome. I always say to everyone, make sure you do a length test drive. There may be some things that I like that others do not. Good luck and keep us posted.
They just introduced an updates version late Autumn 2018 with 120ah!
How is the battery life when using the AC? I live in Las Vegas & we use the AC on high about 6 months.
Great review. One correction: Regenerative braking in the i3 is independent of the driving mode
We've jus tested the new BMW Z4 30i: th-cam.com/video/o-kf2HMz-BQ/w-d-xo.html
Too bad BMW didn't put in a ludicrous mode in it
I wouldn't rule that out for the updated i8.
Looks like hackers can get into the software. I see where it is relatively easy to change the parameters so the ICE fires up well before the last 6% of the battery remains. Personally I would always like my battery closer to a full charge.
If there was such a mode in the i3, drivers would be flipping the car over on acceleration..
Yes, the car can be software hacked and customized..
You can even boost the horsepower.
You'd need a ludicrous battery to go with it 😁
I find it interesting that BMW decided to do a nasty bit of advertising related misdirection.
94Ah? Really? Nasty.. just nasty.
Call it what it is.. a 30kwh battery. Bunch of bullshit just to confuse consumers into thinking they are getting more than they are. Just.. makes ya sick.
Best honest review so far, had one for a weekend, and this review is saying everything I thought, even on the 20" rims, thank you you have made my mind up now, i'm going to order one, but after the Frankfurt show on the 14th of September, just to wait and see what the i3S sport version is all about.
Body design is very reminiscent of the old Audi A2. Separated at birth? Particularly side on...
Designed by the same person
I loved the Audi A2, it's partly the reason I bought the i3, spiritual successor?? Anyone??
The BMW i3 94ah has won Inside Lane Green Car of the Year: th-cam.com/video/Pl8tYiQZPq8/w-d-xo.html
Honestly, with a 39.5kwh 94Ah battery and DC Fast Charge capability, you don't need that range extender 99.9% of the time.
If you are buying a used REx i3, be sure it is either still under warranty or purchase an extended warranty.
I wouldn't recommend using DC Fast Charging more than you have too unless you are driving on a long freeway trip. DC charging helps accelerate the degradation of the battery. Its always healthier for the battery to level 1 or level 2 charge it.
Yes, always buy a warranty on a used i3 and make sure the warranty is specific to the i3 and that the warranty covers the entire car and that there are no deductibles.
@@mamadouaziza2536 I ended up buying a used 2016 Kia Soul EV in excellent condition and have not DC Fast charge it once. Haven't needed to so far. Love it love it love it.
@@JustWasted3HoursHere
I was looking at the Kia Soul EV as well but decided that I prefer rear wheel drive cars instead. I hope you have many years of enjoying your EV!
@@mamadouaziza2536 What finally sold me on it was the warranty: 10 years, including all the EV-specific components and transferable to subsequent owners. I have to say I am extremely impressed with Kia's build quality. I've never owned a Kia before, but I'm sold on them. Every button, switch, dial, knob, lever and door has a solid, no-wiggle design. The _ONLY_ thing I wish it had was slightly more range (I'm getting about 90 miles on a 100% charge, which is fine for me 99% of the time). The 2020 has more than twice the range and horsepower, but it is not available in the US and won't be. :(
Your quoted range miles bear NO relation to the accepted or even BMW advertised range!
What world are you living in, even BMW only claim 125 miles on battery and Range extended up to 206 miles. The Euro test is really not accurate.
But if you drive in the city and do lots of stopping and going the range will increase due to energy being put back into the battery.
So, its very possible to do 240 miles of range when factoring in both EV and REx range.
I'd need a REX since I live in an appartment and want to go on vacation. Without REX I could do my daily commute but 40mins for 80% is a bit on the boring side. If supermarkets would have enough charging points it could be daily driver for me.
It is a funky little car and like it a lot.
The only gripe is why isn't the frunk weatherproof, why BMW?
The i3 now has a 120ah battery and its good for about 150 miles in its most efficient driving mode.
You probably won't need to charge the car up more than twice a week.
Certainly there are DC Fast Charging places near your house?
First :D
Hengistbury head, one of my favourite places for a lovely walk.
+Ricco123tube Good spot!
Thanks to Tesla for getting the ball rolling.
yes , i am very surprised VW is not serous about electric cars with all that cash they arent even close to making anything serous ,, their E golf is only capable of 80 km range ,,,,, Toyota is sleeping too ,,,,, TESLA 3 will shake the car industry hard ,,,, BOLT ev is not available in Europe so i think what will happen ,,, is this once MODEL 3 is out and sales will latterly go tro the roof , im putting down my 1000 euro deposit ,,, and imagine all other people will uby one too once its out ,,,, 35000 dollars and 0-60 in under 6 seconds,,,,,,, and range of 350 miles ,,, thats plenty for the country i live in ,,,, CAR GIANTS GONA START scrambling for a proper electric car but only when they are going to be threatened
The big car makers have missed the train regarding EV / hybrid cars, Hybrid/REx is the way to go for now but they seem to want to force pure electric no matter what. The price is still way too high for most people, who can fork out 35k € for an EV just like that? Not many. The Bolt is available as Opel Ampera-E in Europe unless they stopped that idea. Iirc it's just rebadged.
Not to take anything away from Tesla, but BMW started the iDivision in 2011 - before Tesla had much of a track record. Certainly BMW saw the need for this division even earlier.
Calvin Grier the roadster was started In 2005. Lol
great review, i love this car
I bought a 2018 i3 a week ago and I'm very impressed with the car, the only gripe I have is the state of the roads in Scotland are terrible and it makes for a very rough and unsettled ride, not so much the cars fault but it shows how firm the i3 is, saying that I've done over 100 miles since I bought it and it's not cost me a penny using the free CCS fast charge, love the car and intend to keep it long term. Great review by the way, very enjoyable and very true. Thank you.
It's a carbon fibre body for less than 35k
It's actually CFRP, carbon fibre reinforced plastic, saying that it's extremely rigid and strong, not quite the real deal but a close second.
Great car and an excellent review!!!
Thanks!
why cant it look more like a squished hatchback 1 series. They dont have to make these cars look overly futuristic, go with clean classic bmw look and give me 300ft pounds of torque with a range of 210 miles and 0-60 time of 4.5 sec, and ill take 2. The reason everyone is lining up for a telsa modal 3 that doesn't even exist for sale yet, is cause it looks like a regular sporty four door car. BMW you can do way better and i like your products better, just build it and people will buy it.
I personally would like if they gave cars more of a pre 80s style to them.
Shamic Entertainment i kinda just wish they had a normal car style to them. like a m135i or a 235i. just a regular looking car that no one can even tell if its electric or a hybrid or engine. I almost purchased this car but i couldnt get past the design of this thing. I like the interior and all that but the car itself looks like a toy. i would take a electric e36 anyday. i just want simple function and form like a regular bmw but full electric. It can be done.
Probably going to buy this, but only because the wait time for a Tesla model 3 is 18 months... :(
Very apt point! This is comparable with any petrol guzzler if not better!
good price compare with tesla 2017... thats the sign of end of the time new world order
Awesome video shared
A faux non-functional grill? Really tacky.
Well would you rather have the nose be blank like a nissan leaf?
ShroomWalrus
Would you rather have more non-functional stick-on crap to make it look like a Buick?
Yes. anything looks better than a nissan leaf
94ah means nothing without voltage.
353v :) it's a beast of a battery.
Nothing special. Only 33.2 KWh. Two times less than in Tesla 65 and 3 times less in 100.
Costs much less than a Tesla though.
Inside Lane
Model 3 with 60 KWh (300km+ range) battery should cost around 35K euro/$.
This bmw costs almost 50K $.
Atak Snajpera Its cost about £27,000 for the BMW here in the U.K. It is estimated that the Model 3 will cost £35,000. I'm not downplaying the Tesla, I have high hopes for it. But at this very moment in time it is all speculation and claims. We won't know anything for sure until the car hits the road. Also Tesla reliability is questionable at the moment. BMW are offering 8 year warranty on every car.
247 miles range? How come in the USA it says 180 miles combined?
Different testing systems for different countries.
Take about the half what they say and you are good to go.
BMW also publish what they call a "real world range". How they come up with this figure I'm not sure. But the idea is that the i3 REx should be able to do about 217 miles in "worst case scenario" conditions.
I just confirmed with my local dealership that the 2017 BMW i3 gets 180 miles of range WITH the gasoline range extender. The pure electric drive is about 114. And after consulting with a friend who HAS the i3, he estimates a real world range of 150 under normal American urban life driving conditions (combination of highway and local commute on a daily basis).
So I really don't see where the 247 miles of range come from?
I mean, the new Chevy Bolt only has 238 miles of range acclaimed, and that car has the longest range on the market right now (even longer than a base model Tesla Model S). How is the BMW i3 beating the Bolt with a smaller battery pack is beyond me.
Are you sure you weren't checking the range of the older battery model?
The indicators are not there for decoration.
There or there abouts = have not got a clue
Nicely presented,thks.
Hows the wheel life on this care ive heard the tread wears out too soon?
Depending on how you drive..
Most i3 owners say the tire average is anywhere from 15k to 20k miles. Tires run about $125 each at the low end and $180 each on the high side.
Can you review the BMW X5 edrive. Its a hybrid with an electric motor thats powerful but the range is not as good as the i3. Just want your professional opinion.
It is certainly something we can look into.
Thank you, thank you. Looking forward.
You missed the y off battery in your first paragraph in your description. Feel free to delete this comment after you've changed it. Cheers fella.
Sorted! Thanks for spotting that. Typed the description up in a bit of a rush as I'm just about to head to Italy for the Peugeot 3008 launch. Video coming Wednesday.
Inside Lane - no worries mate. Look forward to future vids.
Tempting but not enough chargers about YET,
great review, many thanks
Merry Christmas. x
+mickyeverton Thank you. Merry Christmas.
there are enough DC chargers in europe
36k is still allot to pay for a car with only 200 miles range which resembles a shoe box
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With this money You can buy a BMW 4 series coupe diesel with 900 miles range and use the 7000 pounds saved to run the car for the next 8 years
niceguy60 uj
Its not available everywhere
You must wear sensible shoes 😁
Outstanding!
Nice
0-62 in 8.1 seconds? that's ridiculous and pathetic for BMW and the price that they asking for this car.
+Habib Aghasafari Respect the vast amount of tech in this car. It's not a super car.
it's not a super car, but it's comparable to Tesla model 3 that can do 0-62 in under 6 seconds and a lot less if you get the ludicrous option.
Are you serious? That's a very fair time. There are many electronic cars that use over 10 seconds.
The acceleration time is compatible with the 170hp engine... a Tesla S weight twice, as 3x more power and cost twice...
model 3 is not out
Excellent review.......
Thank you!
Bad care need 6 hours to charge
Every 180 kilo
Oh noo. They forgot heated steering wheel. What a luxury. Must buy 7-series to get that. Or Nissan.
+Arnis Tarassu Hardly a deal breaker.
And also forgot rear passenger. They also must keep their butts cold. Still doesn't break a deal?
Arnis Tarassu The vast majority of cars don't have rear heated seats. I think you are missing the point of this car.
The vast majority of cars produce heat as a byproduct. I think you miss the drawbacks of all EV-s.
Arnis Tarassu You are talking utter rubbish.
Will stick with diesel, 3 minutes to fill up, and on my way
I thought that too until I drove a BMW i3, I still have a 2012 Volvo C70 D3 which I love but the BMW i3 is so much more fun and more practical than the Volvo, I'll regret selling the Volvo but the BMW is just a fantastic bit of kit, and way more fun away from the lights! 😁
Wonder why BMW didn't opt for a micro-turbine range extender engine.....instead of the two cyl banger. MTs seem to be buzz lately for range extenders lately
Oh great, the car would cost $60k instead of $55k. LOL.
BMW took the cheapest route.
Sorry, but you ARE inconvenienced when you go past 243miles. A petrol car simply refills with petrol, but this hybrid has to sit and wait for it to recharge.
my only problem with electric cars is that you can't take them on road trips. and for me that's a big thing for me when it comes to my bikes and cars. sure maybe you could in America now. but what about 3rd world countries like thailand Indonesia Philippines and so on. they don't have any charge stations. so road trips become impossible
Any idea how much an overnight charge off 240v AC would cost approx?
Erm... Good question. I think it is about £2/3 something like that, Which considering the range that gives you is a good saving.
Mark, I pay about 10.75p per kwh in my house. So, if, when I plug in in the battery has say 20% left in, that would be 6.6 kwh (assuming 33kwh battery). \So, to charge it up to 100% you would be putting in 26.4 kwh, so, 26.4 x 10.75p+= £2.84p
Great info! Thanks for sharing.
Even better if you have solar panels and a battery bank.
a full charge takes 30 kwh max...