Please note that I no longer supply a link to Ribble asI have left their affiliate scheme. Although some people have kindly used my link when they purchase a bike from Ribble, to support the channel, the 1% commission promised has always been disallowed due to my link not being the ‘last click.’ Ribble are onto a good thing here as how many people spend upwards of £2500 on the first click? The commission would have amounted to around £25 per bike sold. Ribble appears to have used the system to ensure this isn’t paid.
Hi. Sorry to bother you. Do you find it gives much help going up hills. It's where I struggle. But wondering if u should just go with the non E bike and save money.
@@lonegravelbiker4239 Hi Daniel. Yes it does help with hills, obviously depends on the setting you choose. It feels like someone has a hand on your back pushing you up. Someone else described the feeling like walking down a moving bus. Highly recommend if your struggling with hills. Expensive but I don’t regret buying it.
Thanks Roy. I own the equivalent Orbea bike, also with an Ebikemotion engine. I had spotted this model and had given up any hope to get one soon. Then I entered a shop selling Orbea and they happened to have one model in the shop! Tried it and bought it instantly! I fully agree with you: it's a great system for people who need a little e-support, and the bike looks great (not one of those ugly e-bikes). I'm so happy with it: I find myself biking like never before... I really don't regret my spontaneous purchase at all! Enjoy the rides! Greetings from Brussels. (I just find the range extender awfully expensive)
Welcome, David, good to have Belgium represented here I seriously considered the Orbea. What swayed it in the end was the ability to build my own spec via Ribble. Everything fell just right for you there, didn’t it. I can see why you gave in to your impulse to buy - great decision. I agree regarding the Range Extender price. Frankly, although I own one, I rarely use it so, thankfully, it’s something most of us can do without.
Got a Ribble CRG SL 105, had it for over 5 years now. Done over 14,500km and it's still going strong. I've replaced a lot of components and have two wheel sets (road/gravel). It's now my winter road/gravel bike. I love it.
Just got my first ebike - a Ribble CGR ALe - a few days a ago and I love it. I was initially worried about how hard it would be when power assist stops ar 15. 5 mph. No worries - I hardly notice it tbh. I guess because I'm usually on the flat or on a downhill stretch when the assist stops, it feels smooth and have no problem maintaining a reasonable speed. So far, I've only used the eco setting which gives my 74 yr old legs a little help on hills and/or into a strong head wind. Thanks for all the info and advice Roy - very helpful.
That’s great to hear, Michael. If you haven’t already done so, it would be worth checking out my video on removing the rear wheel, just in case. I wish you many happy years of riding it.
Roy, so pleased with my Ribble CGR ale with ultegra and Schwalbe 40mm. Now this I ordered pending a trip to ride in Portugal with my Wife, whom has a carbon fibre ,Ribble Endurance SLE. (as Sean Yeates)...This as a present for my wife.due to back problems arriving over the years of enjoyable cycling, for leisure... Now ! ME,, on My Pinarello lightweight NON e road race bike , the riding together experience found my wife on her Ribble Endurance SL E, actually passing me on some. if not many climbs .. But we both arrived home at the same time,which was great...Later On my discovering that I needed a complete right hip replacement,,( result of keeping fit and racing ?). I have bought the CGR ALe...and must say that after recovering from Hip Job,,,noo mean trial ,I am riding again using only the low power level green 1 ( knowing a bit in reserve )and thoroughly enjoying every minute of it,having spent last two winter periods in Portugal,,Thanks to have had the opportunity to gift myself with this marvel from Ribble Cycles ..It is all a brilliant story for my Wife and myself,enabling us to continue enjoying the thrill that cycling has brought us over many years of the leisure side of the edge of the sport. ...James Young
What a great story, James, and so good that you and your wife share the passion from cycling. E assist bikes really do help when we would otherwise have to stop cycling. Long may you both continue to enjoy it.
I found Roy because I was researching this bike. Bought one and when it eventually arrived (consistent failures by Ribble to meet their own deadlines, non existent communication) I love it. I keep on green setting and average about 6% battery every 10 miles - (I weigh 15st). Average ride distance has increased and I don't avoid hills anymore !!
Thanks Roy. I agree with your thoughts on the bike. I bought a hybrid AL e in 2019 and haven’t had any regrets and use it on the Downslink down to Brighton. Didn’t know about the bad paintwork haven’t had any problems although I did have it custom painted by Ribble in a gun metal grey. I have had the dreaded purple flashing light when charging but like you mentioned turning the wheels a few times seems to solve the problem. Customer service is ok although did have to wait 6 months for the bike. All the best !
That’s good to know. I’ve just upgraded mine with the Redshift Kitchen Sink handlebar and suspension seatpost. It’s like a different bike on the rough stuff.
Hi Roy. Thanks again for another great watch. My first chip on my CGR Al E today! The G is for gravel so was a bit surprised. I,LL have to source some touch up paint also although mine is the grey version. Still love my Ribble though.
Thank you, Tim. I know that a gravel bike is meant to take some knocks, but I still like to keep it looking good. It’s also in Ribble’s interests to have their product taken care of as it’s a mobile ad for them.
Thanks, Stuart. The only thing I would add now is that Mahle have launched the X20 system. It’s more advanced than the X35 but only being used by a couple of manufacturers - Scott being one. If I was in the market but not in a rush I would wait for others to adopt the new system. mahle-smartbike.com/x20/
Many thanks Roy for your super in depth review of the CGR al e. Mine should be with me in around 2 weeks. To be fair Ribble have kept me in the loop with the delivery and my original delivery date has been bought foreword 2 weeks. Pre-armed with the paint issues you encountered I have bought some nylon washers and helicopter tape to attempt to mitigate the paint chipping problems you showed. I have already received the extender battery and now I'm chomping at the bit to expand my riding distances up in Gods Own County. I really do hope you have received some positive treatment for your shoulder problem. Again thanks for posting your cycling videos, I think I must of watched ALL of them at least twice. Take care and keep up the good work fella.
Thank you for your kind comment, it means a lot. It’s great that you’re getting your bike early and that Ribble have kept you informed. Maybe they only stick their heads in the sand when orders are late. I had a few problems early on and they were very helpful in sorting it. Let’s hope you get some decent weather to try your new toy. I had the steroid injection in the shoulder a week ago today, which hurt like Hell for a few days. I thought it was improving after that but now I’m not so sure, but thanks for asking. The good thing is that cycling eases it 🙂
Very informative video Roy, many thanks! I was interested in seeing your views on this bike, as I also have a CGR ale. I bought mine, fully loaded as it were with Ultegra and DI2 as a 69th birthday present to myself, originally as insurance against not making it up some of the steeper hills around here. Instead, with its 40mm Schwalbe All Round tyres, its opened up the joy of gravel to me, something I wouldn't have even thought about trying on my "me-powered" bikes. I certainly agree with you about the Ebike Motion companion app. I find it VERY phone battery intensive, so much so I daren't leave the app running on the phone during a ride, so the mapping and journey recording side of it is a total waste of time. As for the bike battery usage, I find it extremely economic. A few days ago I completed a hilly 70 mile trip, about a third of which was off road on the unpaved section of the Fosseway, north of Bath. Toward the end of the trip, battery assist was in use a fair bit (none of us are getting any younger!), but still got home with 15% battery capacity left. I must admit, I've not had any problems regarding paint chipping, but I did go for a custom paint finish (white fading to grey with red flashes) rather than the stock orange or grey, which were the choices when I bought mine. If there are any downsides, it is that iWoc system. If you're on a hill that suddenly steepens, it can be so easy to press it too many times while trying to increase the assist, ending up switching the electric assist off, just when you need it most!! All in all, I have to say that its probably the best bike I've owned, both for comfort and stability.
Very posh, Bernie. I'm 69 soon so I may have to upgrade. I used to have a bike with Di2 but the thing lasted so long on one charge it caught me out a couple of times when it went flat on me the wrong side of some climbs.
Had my Ribble SLE Enthusiast 3 months now and doing my first century next month! (aged 53 and new to cycling) Hoping the battery will see me good with intermittent use when I'm feeling the strain! Great videos Roy and really useful - just found this one.
Thanks, Gill. A first century is very exciting and very special afterwards. My first one was the Tour of Cambridgeshire, after which I said ‘done that no need to repeat’. Many repeats later….. Your SLE is so light I’m sure you’ll make it. It’s so nice being able to ride without power but know it’s there if you need it. Good luck with the ride and please report back 😀
This is a great video. Searched because I’ve been popping into a rubble shop and I’ve always wanted a gravel bike and an ebike. I ride acoustic hardtails more on a cross country set up. I’m 52 and could just do with a bit of assist now and then. Plus I could use it for bike packing. Thanks a lot has helped me make my mind up.
Thanks, Darren, I’m pleased it helped. The only issue with Ribble is the delivery lead time. I don’t know what it’s like now but it was very long a few months ago. There are now many more manufacturers using the Mahle X35 so more choice for you. As you will see, I ride acoustic much of the time, but there are days that I really don’t have the get up and go, so the assist ensures I get out. Keep us updated on what you choose.
Great review Roy as per! Had my CGR Al e since end of June and extremely happy with it. Initially I found the ride quite hard as my previous bike was. Ribble HF83 all carbon with DI2 which absorbed a lot more of the shock, however since your review of the Redshift system have mounted both seat post and stem which has made an amazing difference👍am still on the Marathons but reduced pressures back and front which also helps the ride but a slower ride accordingly but am not interested in fast rides anymore! I’m usually doing about 30-40 mile rides on average right now and trying to use 0 as much as possible power to conserve battery life and normally finish a ride with about 30% left. Not sure whether I’d like to run it right down as it’s quite a heavy bike to push🤔 I look forward to more of your very interesting videos, keep ‘em coming👍😊
Always love seeing a new video from you Roy. Literally check every day for a new Roy video as I've been through and watched every single one of your videos after finding your original CGR review. I think Ribble should be giving you commission as I bet many people have bought one after watching your videos. You have certainly inspired me. I came close to buying a CGR AL E myself but in the end I opted for the CGR Ti and I am currently waiting (ETA late November). It's interesting you mention the size. I was right on the line between a small and a medium. I went to their showroom and first person I saw looked at me and said "You're about the same size as me, I'd go for the medium, I'd never ride a small" He pulled the display bike off the display and told me that was a medium. I sat on it and my 'undercarriage' was resting on the top bar. I went on the sizing rig they have with a different guy and he also suggested a medium just from looking at me. He set it up to reflect the medium and it felt okay to ride and he told me that's what he'd suggest, but I also got him to set up a small and I preferred the small setup. I find it interesting that they were suggesting me to go up to the bigger size, yet their website seems to suggest going smaller is easier to make a bike fit.
That’s a really nice message, Rob, and it makes it all worthwhile. I’ve been a bit slow on the video making lately. I shall be explaining why in my next video, which should be finished by the weekend. I filmed last Sunday’s 120 mile Triban ride and also used the opportunity to chat about what I’ve been up to. I try to do something once a week, but only if I’ve got something interesting to feature. Your Ribble experience sounds terribly unprofessional. Why invest in a measuring rig if you’re going to guess at a size? I went over to the Birmingham store and was immediately put on the sizing rig. As I said, I could have gone for either, but the size down XS felt right. It was a longer delivery than a small and I almost changed my mind just to get it sooner. I made an expensive mistake in buying a Giant Defy with all the bells and whistles. The price was good so I ignored that it was a size up from what the guidance said. It was so uncomfortable to ride as I was too stretched out, so I was fearful of making the same mistake again. It would be interesting to know how many bikes have been sold as a result of that original review. I have just been accepted into Ribble’s affiliate programme, through an agency, so if anyone buys from Ribble, using the link in the description, they pay something like £20 per bike sold. That’s very welcome as it helps with running costs but is not enough to compromise my integrity. I am sure you are going to love the new bike, Rob, and the end of November will soon come around.
Hi Roy ive had a SLR road bike and had customised paintwork. i'm having the same problem with the paintwork not being very robust. a little annoyed as the bike cost 6.5 K
I have the Merida e motion bike with the same system as the ribble absolutely love it. I’ve ridden over 70 miles on a charge as mine only assists under 15 mph. That seems to compare with yours. Good to see a review of an e motion bike, they get little reviews by cycling journalists.
Thanks Roy, another great video. Have noted your comments re-scratches/paintwork which are also echoed on the Facebook groups (even on delivery). This is especially relevant as my CGR ALe is due for the dispatch 01/10 :). Also good to hear your initial tyre review and looking forward to how the Continental Contact Plus Tyres perform in the wet/winter. (A think a new set of winter boots will be the first Change for the Bike when it arrives - please don't leave the review too long!!!! ;) )
Very informative review Roy, that is definitely the system I will get when I eventually, move to an E-Bike, but hopefully carry on with my manual powered bike for a few more years, helps me as a types to have cake at my cafe stops, if I have option of assistance on a ride might be tempted to take the easy option and switch assist on , and not burn quite as many cabs as normal
Thanks for making this review found it very informative. I am looking to buy a lightweight e assist road bike with shimano 105 for a while now but would love to buy a ribble but no stockists in Republic of Ireland that I can find
My next video will be out next week and is a review of a great conversion kit for a standard bike. Really simple to fit and just as easy to remove for days when power isn’t needed.
Thanks Roy. Watched your first video a year or so back and now "finally" in a position to buy a couple of e-bikes for my wife & myself. Been really helpful watching your reviews as many of the questions I wanted to ask... you've now already answered for me. Our reason for looking at e-bikes is that we sometimes travel longer distances with rack & panniers and the extra boost on those hills will offer some welcome relief. Day rides (like yourself) we'll be happy to be able to inject a little low power for headwinds or for the end of the ride if we're flagging. Just wondered if you might comment a little more on the group set you chose please? My wife wants a granny gear for climbing steep hills when laden with panniers. I had thought the 1x system might be a better choice... but would be grateful if you could let me know your own experience of climbing hills in the lowest gear ratio with the bike fully loaded. Do you think the 105 system offers a good enough low ratio? Best regards... and thanks again for posting the reviews. Please keep up the good work! A & J
Thanks, Andrew. As I ride a mixture of 70% road and 30% trails the 105 setup suits me well. The 11/32 cassette will see me up the 18% climbs in my area without difficulty. However, I’m rarely fully loaded. My ride partner, Wendy, uses a Ribble Hybrid with the SRAM single ring groupset and she handles hills with total ease. However, she can’t keep up with me on the flat. I would certainly think that your wife would be better off with the single ring. If you are a reasonably fit rider and want to ride road sometimes without the loaded bike, the 105 should work well. When I change the cassette on my Triban I’ll upgrade to an 11/34, but I don’t feel the need to do this on the electric. I hope that helps but feel free to contact me on ridingwithroy@gmail.com if you want a more detailed chat. If you do decide on Ribble, I would be grateful if you would use tidd.ly/2TPxLdq to link to their website. This helps the channel as they will pay a very small commission on any item purchased and it costs you the same. Good luck with your search and I look forward to hearing about what you decide upon.
@@RideWithRoy Many thanks Roy. Sound advice & I'll make sure we both use the link above to buy our bikes after we test drive tomorrow - as we credit your reviews as a main reason for us choosing Ribble in the first place. If you benefit too - then it's a win win for everyone IMHO :-)
Roy thanks for another infomative video. From your original one on the Ribble CGR I too went to purchase one. Unfortunately the delivery date (originally March) kept moving out and end up being end of September or so. So I purchased a Wilier jena hybrid (same x35 system) with a GRX gearing. It's really helping me tackle the steep hills here in North Devon, its not a free ride (as you mention) but for me gives me confidence to go further on my aging knees/legs. I use bike protection tape on my bikes (helicopter tape) on the underside of the down tubes etc which helps prevent the odd chip. Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks for this 👍 I like the look of the Willer and that would have been an option I would have considered, but it wasn’t available for when I was in the market. It’s great that there’s so much more choice now. Thanks for the tape tip. I used to have plenty of this to protect the prop when I was flying. I’ll have to root around to see if I still have some. It was under the chain stay from the factory but more extensive use would be worth it.
Having subscribed a while ago to your channel, may I say how much I have enjoyed your interesting and informative videos? The two about this Ribble in particular, because, after a long period of vacillation, your exposition of the facts inspired me to finally decide to go for elec/assistance. About three years ago, at the age of 87, I reluctantly had to concede that things were not as they had been. Hills - I live in a hilly area of SW France - were becoming irksome, to the point where I was consciously avoiding them, but with not much flat terrain my riding options were becoming limited and thus repetitive. My perception of e-bikes at the time were that they were expensive and very heavy, and not particularly attractive to a road biker, so I just stuck as I was. As an aside, which I mention because I know you are a Decathlon enthusiast, I had stolen, at about that time, a very nice Vitus bike for which, due to a glitch of some sort, I received a virtually derisory insurance pay out. Not feeling justified in spending a lot on a new bike, on the strength of an excellent review by road cc., I actually purchased a Decathlon Btwin Triban 100 (now the RC 100) - the absolute basic entry model. The purists would have been horrified, but to my astonishment it proved to be an excellent bike- it rode equally as well as the Vitus, and with a change to road tyres I got the weight down to 10.8 kg, including pedals - only a little heavier than the Vitus. Bottom end components, admittedly, but they do the job. That then is my current bike - relevant for later. Back to the electrics. Road e-bikes like the Ribble are unfortunately well out of my price range, so, wanting to keep my road bike, I looked at conversion kits. These can also be expensive and some add a lot of weight - as much as 4 to 6kg plus, some of them. The best option, both cost and weight wise appeared to be a friction drive system, and after some research I decided to opt for one of these. It only adds 2.7kg, giving me a very acceptable 13.5 kg all up unloaded weight, with a total cost (thank you Decathlon) of about 720 pounds - an acceptable result, I feel, particularly as the 'road' appearance is hardly affected. Although the bike/kit combo is obviously not as refined or as powerful/versatile as a road e-bike, it does what it says on the tin, gets me up those hills very efficiently and will enable me to get further afield. All this screed is to point out, that although I did not go down your exact route, it was your explanation of the basic principles which led me to the position I am in now, for which many thanks. On another tack, I lived just outside Lincoln from 2,000 to 2,009 and your ride videos of the area - Brayford, Saltergate, the Water Railway, Bardney, dropping down to the Pie Wype, etc. have brought back many happy memories - for which again, many thanks.
Well your message made my day, Edward. I’m pleased you like my videos. I don’t follow any particular format so you never know what you’re going to get. It’s great to hear you are only just needing to go electric at 87 - there’s still hope for me at at 69. I would imagine that regular cycling has contributed to your longevity. The friction drive sounds like a workable solution. I often ride my Ribble without power; just adding it for the harder hills, depending upon how I feel on the day. We have a house in Haute-Vienne, which for obvious reasons we’ve not managed to visit since September 2020. I keep my first road bike there, a Fuji Sportif, so can enjoy the beautifully quiet (and well maintained) lanes of France. I wish you many more years of enjoying the open road.
@@RideWithRoy Nice to hear from you - glad my message did not come amiss. Actually the kit was a treat to myself for my 90th birthday in December - I persevered manually through the last three years. I only recently received it and have just done my fourth ride - early days, but workable it certainly appears to be. We live in the Lot Dept. and I can certainly attest to the maintenance of even the most rural of roads. Best regards and keep the videos coming.
@@RideWithRoy And she's right! We live in the town of Souillac, about 15k south of Brive, and we were wondering if by any chance Wendy's property was anywhere near. If she would prefer not to say on an open forum like this, that would be quite understandable, but I was just thinking that, if I was actually still extant when she is finally allowed to visit again, we could perhaps do a shared ride or two if that would appeal. The Haute-Vienne isn't impossibly far away, either.
I just got a e-bike too. I got a small as I'm 5'8" and wanted to put my shock stop seat post on as well. I am healing from a fractured arm and leg so the e-bike makes rides more enjoyable. I just installed the shock stop stem on it and I can't wait to see how that gets on. I have the v2 roadster from Ride 1 Up that has a road bike geometry. I'm in Hawaii so 28 mph is the limit for e-bikes which is nice. I haven't gone that fast as my motor only is 350w nominal and 500w max, but it was a value price so I like it a lot. I have many other carbon race bikes so I didn't need another flashy e-bike while I'm healing. Anyhoo, I really enjoyed your video and insights. New subscriber here.
Welcome, thanks for joining us. That sounds a great bike and a wonderful place to be riding it in. Although it’s your ride while healing, I’m sure you’ll be enjoying it alongside your carbon superbikes long after you’re back to full strength, such is the fun of e assist.
Nice bike and an encouragement to consider one. My concern is not how many miles the battery will take you but how feasible it is to replace the battery when it finally dies. I hate waste and worry that a perfectly good bike has to be scrapped due to the cost or unavailability of a new battery.
Thanks, Colin. The battery is easily replaceable through an inspection plate at the base of the frame. This is easily removable and, while they say it’s a dealer job, in reality it’s just plug and play. I doubt it will be long before we see lower cost after market copies for these and the range extender.
Really great vid Roy and really informative and objective view 👏🏼 definitely interested in getting one now. What camera do you use, as due to so many near misses on rides thinking of getting one to give a bit of evidence should the worse happen 🤞🏼😑
Thanks, Phil. I use the cheap and cheerful Chilli Tech Bullet cam. Their best deals are advertised on Facebook. Mine is the original so the new version will be a better image but mine is good enough to capture an incident and is still going strong. I get about four hours per battery and carry a spare. I don’t hesitate to report dangerous incidents as it’s the only way some will learn.
@@RideWithRoy spot on mate thank you for replying 👍🏼 I’m even contemplating selling my beloved pinarello to get one of these Ribble e’s I think it’s the way forward 👏🏼
I was going to buy a ribble e bike, but the waiting time was months! Not acceptable to me. So I bought a "Trek AL+5" road/electric, cheaper, available, and great fit and finish. I easily get over 100 miles on a full charge. Although because it's quite light in weight (12kg?) and the drive system is so good I hardly use the electric motor. I am 70 BTW and do about 300 miles a month. If you want a good alternative to the ribble I can heartily recommend the Trek.
@RideWithRoy cheers Roy, I rode all the way over to the main Ribble showroom on my motorbike from Leeds in march this year to buy a Ribble e bike. The salesman basically told me they prefer to just sell online, and didn't seem interested at all. Then when he told me it was a six month wait for a bike I wasn't impressed. Keep up the good work on the videos, it's nice to hear your views and opinions. I notice you wear a "Kask" helmet, they are good quality, a great fit, and quietly aerodynamic, recommended. Love from Leeds!
I must say that I got the opposite service in Birmingham. The salesman, Charlie, was extremely helpful and spent a lot of time measuring me for the perfect fit, but that was a few years ago. I had a problem when I first got the bike and they were also helpful in sorting it, so I have to speak as I find. Sadly, that’s not the experience many are reporting these days. The other issue is the awfully brittle paint that chips easily. I seem to gather helmets. The Kask is comfortable but I now wear a Specialized with MIPS protection, which is even more comfortable than the Kask. I’m also in the process of testing a Smart Helmet, that I’ll review shortly, so you’ll note a few changes if helmet 😀 By the way, I don’t know if you’ve seen a mention of it yet but I’m also 70 😎
Hi Roy, I've thoroughly appreciated watching some of your videos about the Ribble and Redshift Shockstop. Tremendously helpful to someone like me who is just starting out looking at gravel bikes. What tyres do you use on yours? I'm interested in whether e.g. you use a 700x35c and whether that still feels ok on the rough stuff since you added the Shockstop
Thank you. I do indeed use 700x35 on the Ribble and Triban while on the new Titanium I’ve fitted 650b, and also 35mm. I find this width the best balance between road and gravel. Enough cushioning, even without the Shockstop stem and seatpost, while no noticeable drag on tarmac. I did spec Marathon tyres on the Ribble from new but I did find them skittish in the wet. I blame these for the two ‘unintended dismounts’ I had😀 I changed these for Continental Contact Plus. Reviews said they were grippy and puncture resistant. With these fitted I have much more confidence on wet tarmac. I don’t do really wet and muddy tracks so can’t speak for those conditions. Another tyre worth considering is the Michelin Protek. I picked these up for about £12.50 each. Way too cheap to be any good but reviews were good for grip and puncture resistance. I have these on my Triban and am very pleased. Of course, with the Shockstop stem and seatpost the bikes ride like a magic carpet. I swap the seatpost between bikes as I like it so much. I don’t move the stem, which is now on the new Titanium bike, as it’s more of a job. I hope that helps.
@@RideWithRoy definitely worth keeping in mind. Have used the Contact Plus around town too but don't remember what they were like, so I guess that's a good thing.👍
Hi Roy Watching you ride through the country estate it does look like you are missing the Redshift with the handlebars shaking like a Charity collection can, another interesting honest video that we can all understand
Yes, I swapped it back to the standard one to make the review more relevant. However, I quickly regretted it! I now swap the seatpost over to the Triban when I use that but the stem is more of a chore to change, so I may have to buy another one. It’s strange how we managed for all these years without the Shockstop but now don’t want to do without it. I rode theTriban 120 miles on Sunday and averaged 14 mph, which is supersonic for me. And the only change is the Shockstop 🤔
I managed to get the Orbea Gain M30 105 groupset on sale. It's been my main mode of transport for over 2 years. I bought the Range extender recently to not only increase the range but also put less stress on the main battery, especially when I use the SpeedFun Ghost eBikeMotion X35 to bring it up to 18-19 MPH on highest setting. The Mahle Ebikemotion has grown on me over the years while Mid drive motors like Bosch are more efficient the only bike I like with this Motor is the Canyan Grail -ON. The new eBikeMotion X20 looks like good progress with ebike technology but I wont be buying a new bike for many years, I'd rather upgrade my Orbea M30, the longer we all wait the more Ebike technology improves. I just hope prices do not keep going up.
Thanks, Keith. I had a quick look at the AL e Gravel and the main difference appears to be the groupset. The Cross Gravel Road (CGR) is ideal for my needs as I often ride all of those surfaces on a single outing. The road style gearing will be better on roads and firm surfaces whereas the Gravel spec will have gearing more suited to off road. I'm no expert on groupsets, but have noted that the 1x single front chainring gravel types appear less road friendly, with larger jumps between gears. So it's really down to what you will use the bike for. Good luck with whatever you choose.
@@RideWithRoy Many thanks, personally I don't think I would be unhappy with either but I have a good road bike and I want the Gravel bike to be good enough on the road to get me to the trails so the groupset needs to make up for my shortcomings on the tough stuff but not TOO technical stuff. Thanks for your quick reply too.
Good video. Somewhat concerned to see the problems with paint chipping - especially as I'm awaiting delivery (expected first week in October) of my CGR AL e (also in red).
Thanks, Roy. I wouldn't be too concerned as new models may not have this problem. It's only an issue with mine at the contact points and the visible parts of the frame are fine. It wouldn't stop me from buying the bike but I would insist on a free touch up paint. I don't look at the facebook forum but Tim says there are similar comments on there.
Hi Roy. Love the videos on this bike, it really helped me chose it as my e-bike. So I’m waiting for mine to be delivered and I’m considering buying a SEASUCKER rack for it for my car. What is the inner measurement of the forks where the front axle is? You have to buy specific plugs for the SEASUCKER depending on that measurement.
I don’t know that rack, Matthew, so can’t comment. I’m away cycling the coast to coast this week so don’t have the Ribble with me. But I’ll gladly measure it when I return. It would be worth checking with Ribble just in case anything has changed since mine was supplied. I hope you get your bike soon.
@@matthewbrooks4381 back now, Matthew. The inner measurement between the front forks is 100mm and the through axle is 110mm. Let me know if you need anything more and I’ll be happy to help.
To protect paint work use clear helicopter tape. I have on my bike going strong after 4 years hardly any chip paint work on the bike. I can never afford an e bike. Good video.
Unfortunately, the areas where paint chips off are where heli tape can’t be affixed - dropouts etc. I know many people are having this problem and others aren’t, so I guess it’s down to the painting method used on different models. Personally, it doesn’t bother me too much as it’s a gravel bike and will pick up some chips. I have acres of the stuff on my titanium frame 😀
Mega: When you reach the point of needing an e-bike, check out a kit to convert your present machine. I converted my 'cheapie' road bike last year with a Revos friction drive kit. It is very simple and very light - bike and kit only 13.5kg - and works very well and retains the road bike appearance. Not quite as refined as the hub motor, I suppose, and only has one power level, but it gives a reasonable simulation of bikes like the Ribble or Orbea at a fraction of the cost.
I also decided on the Mahle Ebikemotion X35+ on my Scott Addict e-ride and it is proving well worth the investment. Using the green ( lowest power) I can expect between 50-60 miles depending on elevation etc. just from the internal frame battery. I did invest in the Mahle Pulsar one handlebar display unit which is more in the line of sight and allows you to change up and down the power settings instantly without scrolling through the 3 levels and it frees up my cell phone too. So far 3000+ trouble free miles and still a few of my fellow cycling club members are unaware it’s an ebike 🤷🏽♂️ Carry on the good work Roy 👍.
Love your vids Roy, like you I'm really enjoying my ebike, I have a La Pierre eSensium running the same emotion system as yours. It would be good if you could cover what I call the Pink light of death! I think people would find it useful as it's hardly talked about. Through my own research I've found you can reset it or balance the battery cells which I haven't found in the official material but the again I hate manuals! My bike battery has failed after only 2,600 miles and the dealer seems at a complete loss! Anyway, thanks and keep up the good work.
Thanks, Lorna. The the ‘pink light of death’ plagued me for weeks when I first got the bike. Ribble, at that time, hadn’t got a clue so referred me to Ebikmotion, as they were then. They solved the problem which was that I had one of a batch of batteries that required a firmware update. Once that was done (dealer job) all has been well 🤞. Making a video of that is difficult as there can be many causes, but I’ll see what I can do. In your case, have you connected the app to see if it shows a fault code? Mahle are able to connect to your app to fault find, so might be worth contacting them direct. Mention that I have suggested the contact. It’s also worth remembering that, even though your bike may be out of warranty, you still have six years within which to claim that the goods ‘don’t meet your reasonable expectations’ which you would have to make via the selling dealer. They could argue that the battery is a consumable item, to which I would point to their 500 charge cycles claim. You can check actual charge cycles by going to the ‘Engineering’ section of the app. The battery is the heart of the system as it also contained the electronics. I hope you get it sorted out but feel free to email me if you need further help on ridingwithroy@gmail.com
Like the others I really enjoy your videos Roy. I have a CGR Ale on order and am looking forward to getting it. Unfortunately it keeps getting delayed. Originally due August 6,then 26, then September 3 then September 9 and now due tomorrow. I will believe it when I see it…. Not too impressed with their (total lack of) communication - I have to go on the web site for the updated dispatch date, which is only updated after the bike should have been dispatched. Interestingly the reason for the latest delay is apparently sub standard paintwork which is having to be redone in the UK. Fingers crossed that this will solve the chipping issue. I am a bit surprised you don’t have mudguards, given the amount of all weather riding you do. Why not? I find they make wet road riding far more pleasant (though they don’t look too good)
Thanks, Keith. I would be insisting on some compensation. Others have managed to get an upgrade or some free items. The least I would accept is a refund of delivery charge. I appreciate there is a global bike parts shortage, and other supply issues, but that’s no excuse for lack of communication. I do use mudguards but take them off in summer. They’ll be going back on any day now. Apart from from the other benefits it’s kind to anyone riding behind. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.
@@RideWithRoy I will demand compensation. After the point at which the bike should have been dispatched, I looked at the website to see if it had indeed been dispatched, to find the message "Unfortunately your build has encountered a slight logistical delay. Please find your new estimated build date detailed above. [October 1st] We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. We are doing everything we can to get your bike built and despatched as soon as possible. Thank you for your continued patience. Team Ribble" Not impressed at all! Again, no contact from them and every two weeks it just gets put back another two weeks. It was originally due August the 6th and I am told they had all the components in stock two weeks ago. What
That is really bad, Keith. It suggests they have so many late deliveries that they don’t even bother speaking to customers. My natural instinct would be to cancel and buy another brand, but that probably wouldn’t bother them as they’d sell your bike to someone else and you probably wouldn’t be able to get anything else anyway. This is so disappointing as, apart from the paint issue, it’s a quality product let down by poor communication. I doubt it will improve anything but a letter to CEO Andy Smallwood might make you feel a bit better. And it might guarantee the latest delivery date. Please keep me updated.
I had exactly this issue with my delivery (my comment up above). I found leaving a one star review on trust pilot made the social media team engage with me - at least had a point of contact even if their promised 'keep me in the loop' didn't amount to much. I got £200 back in the end
Thanks Roy, really useful. I agree with the comments regarding Ribbles communications though. I ordered mine in May and am still awaiting delivery. I fully understand the challenges of supply in recent months but the updates on my account are very last minute and the live chat simply fobs you off with standard responses which is a pity. Still looking forward to getting the bike though even if I have missed the summer 😩👍
One of the easiest parts of the process is good communication, so never an excuse. So many organisations don’t want to give bad news, which only makes the customer more annoyed. It’s much better to take the sting out of a late delivery by calling the customer early. I’ve just heard from one subscriber who has cancelled a £6000 order for two bikes due to very poor interaction with Ribble, so another manufacturer will now benefit. Such a shame that a great product is poorly supported by weak customer service.
Thank you for this review it has convinced me to treat myself to the Ribble CGR AL e with the 105 group set. Could you please confirm what wheels you chose.
Mine were the standard Mavic Aksium but I think now they fit an upgraded Mavic. I noted that one of our subscribers is selling his medium CGR AL-e but I don’t know the spec.
@@RideWithRoy Thankyou. Unfortunately I am vertically challenged and would need a XS frame. The standard wheel set from the site are the Mavic ksyrium s25 700c EBM.
Very informative video Roy. I get my CGR ALe 105 this week, I hope - only a month late, although Ribble were very good and have refunded my £40 delivery charge. Did you manage to sync the iWoc with the wahoo elemnt bolt or the Garmin edge bike computer?
Been loving your videos Roy. I'm starting the journey of coming back to cycling and while at the moment I'm using a chaep spin bike with Zwift to build some fitness, I'm looking at getting a road bike and probably an ebikemotion based system. Here in Australia Ribble don't actually sell ebikes so I am looking at a few options including possible the Obea Gain. I remember you mentioning that was an option you looked at. I'm looking at the e assist because firstly I'm not as fit as I once was, but mostly, I want to use the bike to commute the 50km circuit I need to get to work and back in a day without getting there in a mess of sweat. I also would like the option of the assist at times on hills. I was wondering if you every use the Ribble without assistance and how you find that given the extra weight the motor is adding? I'm wondering if I should spend the extra on a carbon frame system that levels the weight a little negating the need for two bikes. I love the fact that e bikes are opening up the world of cycling to those who feel intimidated by the super fit lycra of the serious cyclists donning their super bikes. I think it was British Cycling that donned the phrase marginal gains. Well with e assist I heard the term its better to be riding a road or track rather than riding a coach. On another matter, I'm from the UK (Altrincham) and while you cycle a different part of the UK, your videos make me fee homesick. Neverthless, a big thank you, great TH-cam entertainment.
Thank you, Neil, that’s wonderful to hear. When I press that publish button on a video it’s a step into the unknown, so comments like these inspire me. I know a few people with the Orbea Gain and they love it. We also have another local rider using a Willier carbon frame, which looks a lovely bike. There is also Scott to choose from, which subscriber Clair uses. A message to Ebikemotion customer service should get you a list of manufacturers. If I’m riding the CGR with an average rider on a non powered bike I don’t use power. As there is no motor friction it rides very easily and I have no problems. If with a non powered rider who is fast, I can pop the power in if needed. It’s that flexibility I like. As for the frame material, the weight from carbon saving is well worth having, especially if you mainly ride roads. I chose aluminium due to the amount of off road riding I do and concern about damaging the frame. Whatever you decide I’m certain you will love it.
@@RideWithRoy Hi Roy, I ordered an Orbea Gain D30 today. I looked at the M30 but I’m looking at Easter for receipt of the bike. I also tried a D40 at one of our dealerships and was mighty impressed. Perhaps shocked in seeing the weight that is added. The X35 unit is a little bigger than I envisaged. However, amazed at the impact. Thanks for your advice Roy - looking forward to some great riding.
great podcast Roy. I've been looking at Ribble Al e and your made up my mind. The only hesitation I have is on 2 points; 1. I have contacted Ribble several times and with questions and they are far far too slow responding. I hope it isn't the same with after sales. 2. Is the battery removable to re-cell? I don't mean to charge. I have an excellent company near me that re-cells batteries and it would give me pace of mind to know that in 2,3 or 4 years time I have the opportunity to do just that.
Thank you, Keith. I found the pre sales response really slow, and it almost put me off. However, when I had some problems after delivery I was given a contact, Ian, who was absolutely brilliant and got back to me within an hour or so of each message. He also called me to update on progress. When the bike was due for original delivery they didn’t have the carbon seatpost I had ordered. They asked if they could supply with aluminium and then replace when stock arrived. They did and I was able to keep the original one. One other nice touch is that, as I ordered with Marathon tyres, they still supplied the folding original ones as well, which are handy as spares. It’s a shame about the pre sales response time, but my experience of after sales would make me relaxed about ordering. As for the cells, they are 36v 250W Panasonic 18650GA. I have no idea about replacing them without official cells, but that number may help your supplier to tell you. The battery does contain the microprocessor for the Ebikemotion system, so that is a potential area for problems matching up new cells. You may be surprised at how long a battery is going to last. I’ve ridden 3500 miles on the bike and, according to the app, the battery has had 36 full charges. If you charge from half discharged it only counts as a half charge. The battery shouldn’t show any reduction in power until after 500 charges, after which the decline will be gradual. I hope that helps. If you do decide on the Ribble it would help the channel if you use the link tidd.ly/2TPxLdq as Ribble will pay it about £20 and it won’t cost you anything.
Thanks for the review. I've been looking at the Hybrid AL e Trail and I'm on the cusp between L and XL. The sizing changes at 185cm height. I'm 184cm tall. 😆 Not sure which to go for.
The recommendation is usually to go for the smaller size, Oliver. That worked for me. The big problem at the moment, with most manufacturers, is long lead times and broken promises.
If you can make it to a Ribble store, they can assess your size, using a special adjustable bike. I did this, at Bluewater, on Sunday, and now have to just until November for my large Gravel Al-e to arrive
Yes, that’s exactly what I did, Bob. In fact, I travelled the 4 hour round trip to the Birmingham store, which was well worth it. That’s a good lead time they’ve offered. Enjoy the new bike.
I found the bike they recommended from sizing on the rig was the same as I would have chosen from their chart, so the chart in accurate. The only difference was stem length, which was chosen to suit my reach.
I’m a self-employed black gentleman who works in the touristy areas of central London. In your opinion, is this a good bike for riding one handed with somebody’s phone in your hand? Or mounting the pavement or even popping wheelies at people and scaring them before swerving out of the way? Thanks ❤
@@MadTwatter what has being a self employed black gentleman got to do with your sarcastic question? Looks like you are creating division where there should be none. In my opinion, you should watch my videos and you will see the answer to your questions. But congrats on picking the perfect name for yourself 😀
It was a problem that wasn’t what it seemed, Trevor. When I got back I tried a new bolt and it was tight. The only thing I can imagine is that I’d put an undersized bolt in it. Having said that, if I use the range extender now I add a strap to provide extra support for the weight. I am sure your wife will enjoy the freedom and confidence it will give her. They also offer the hybrid with the same system. More upright and straight bars but same weight.
I’m wondering what you think of the new Mahle app? I think it’s truly awful in comparison to the old app. They might get it right eventually. Maps have gone, the mode your in is so small it can hardly be read and not even rotatable from Portrait mode, still eats the battery maybe more than the old ebikemotion app. Love to know your thoughts. Oh and now over 5000 miles on mine in a year
That’s good mileage, Martin. I don’t use the app so can’t comment. I have been asked to review it but I can’t get interested. I manage well enough with the iWoc lights and can always pedal if it goes flat. I have a contact at Mahle who would be interested in your feedback, so if you would like email me at ridingwithroy@gmail.com I will forward your message to them.
@@RideWithRoy I have contacted Mahle direct ref the app. Only response was to say they had received my email and would respond. That was a month ago! Will try again through you later. Tks and keep up the good work. Ps bought two of the tyre levers you recommended as I run the Marathon Plus still
Hello, Keith. The battery can be changed and is accessed by a removable cover at the base. They say it’s a dealer job but it looks very much plug and play, so I would do it myself. As partial charges don’t count as a full charge cycle, the life of the battery will be longer than I expected.
I am looking for such a bike so this was really useful. Do you know if Ribble ship internationally (most do but some are a pain)? I would use a Redshift stem as well. Did you consider the seatpost too? I recommend Gravelkings very much as well as Specialized Pathfinders. If you want really supple though Rene Herse are amazing but expensive. But even on a budget bike these tires make it seem like a much more fancy bike and are worth it if comfort and low rolling resistance are desired.
Yes, Ribble do ship internationally, Charles, but like most other manufacturers at the moment, take their delivery estimate with a generous pinch of salt. Yes, I do use the Redshift seatpost as well and have featured it in another video. If I had to prioritise I would have the seatpost first. I actually swap the seatpost between bikes, but the stem isn’t so easy, so that now lives on my new Titanium gravel bike for the summer. Thanks for the tyre recommendations.
@@RideWithRoy very cool you have a Ti frame gravel bike. Do they really absorb chatter? I am all about comfort riding on gravel. What model is the Ti bike if you don’t mind?
@@charlesblithfield6182 it’s the Planet X Tempest, Charles. I built it myself and made some videos of the process. This is the one showing it completed th-cam.com/video/lD3EojZAT1A/w-d-xo.html. Yes, the ride is supremely comfortable and smooth. Someone termed the ride as ‘buttery’ and I’d go with that. It feels as light as carbon but without the worry 😀
Hi Roy . Firstly like to say great videos . Secondly how quick from standing start do you get up to the 15mile an hour mark and how much effort do you put in .
Hi Roy..I’ve had my CGR Al e for a couple of years now but recently noticed the range after charging has diminished. Now 42 miles instead of 50 ish🤔 I have an extender which has proved invaluable on rides over 40 miles. However on a recent ride of 27 miles (without the extender connected)over mixed terrain the battery got down to 11% and maximum output was 120 watts on Turbo! I connected the extender but it didn’t take effect on the main battery until I finished my ride. I guess it was too depleted! Do you think my battery needs replacing?
I would be surprised if it did, Keith. I know you haven't been riding it for a while, so maybe needs a balancing charge. Next time time you charge, leave it connected for an hour or so after full charge is complete. This will balance the battery and may help. It would also be worth checking the app to see how many charge cycles you have completed. I'll bet it is way less than the 500 full cycles life.
I feel disappointed that I won't be able to test the bike, which makes me concerned about the order. As I am currently in Germany, I am wondering if there are any Ribble authorized shops in the EU?
I don’t think they are, but best enquire with them. The alternative would be to see if there is an Orbea dealer near you. They are very similar and use the same Mahle system. Also, if you look at the Mahle Smartbike website you will see the other brands that use their system. Since making this video, Ribble have gone down in my estimation due to many reports of broken delivery promises, so might be best to look at the alternatives with local dealers.
I've just had a brand new, but second hand Endurance SL .. It's great that Ribble are UK based, but their customer service is beyond useless. I've ended up taking the bike elsewhere (it came with a dead battery having being sat in a box for a year and a half). It needs a new plastic cover under the crank also - I've been waiting 3 days having since first made contact about when they may get stock. I was actually looking at a Gravel bike from them (how I found these videos initially) - but based on their CS I'll be going elsewhere now.
That is so disappointing, especially as I had been reassured things had improved. I do know they monitor ‘Ride with Roy subscriber chat’ on Facebook, so feel free to comment on there as well.
Hi, what tyres do you use? My gravel tyres on my Ribble CGR ALe are getting low on tread on the rear tyre so looking for a good replacement. Currently have the same tyres that came when the bike was first delivered - Halo
I’ve used various but my current favourite is the Schwalbe G1 Allround, which I’m running tubeless. If you are using tubes and want a bullet proof tyre then the Schwalbe Marathon is hard to beat. It really depends on the type of riding you do.
I have an emtb (Batribike Delta Plus) which, although an cx style mtb, I predominantly use for road commuting. I find the 15.5MPH assist restriction really irritating. That said, a mountainbike is a heavy old bike which probably doesn't get above 16MPH all that often. I would imagine that with a faster, lightweight hybrid bike it must be even more irritating?
Interestingly, Matt, the lighter bike gives me the opposite feeling. The power gets me up to speed quickly and then, due to the light weight, I find it easy to keep above it. The fact that there is no friction from a gearbox and the motor is just freewheeling when not providing power, makes it a bike I can happily ride without power. Having said that, an e MTB is going to be great fun in its proper environment.
None whatsoever, Peter. It just freewheels like an unpowered bike. The new Mahle app also allows you to fine tune the power setting for each of the three levels. I didn’t think this was necessary but now am a convert. That’s a great choice of bike - enjoy!
They say it’s a dealer job, Edward, but it looks quite straightforward as a DIY. There is a plastic cover underneath that reveals the battery. The battery is plug in, so shouldn’t be too hard. However, with 500 full charge cycles before it starts to reduce in performance, I expect it to be sometime before I need to change it.
Hi, I have been longingly watching your videos on the Ribble CGR AL e bike as well as reading all of the experiences of customers who want to buy one but due to various reasons are not able to. Can anyone recommend the closest alternative to this bicycle in terms of the CGR purpose as well as a similar price point that I can look at. I really would love to buy this bicycle but I fear disappointment and frustration will be my experience if I place an order. Thanks.
The Orbea Gain is a similar spec that uses the X35, Russell. There are now a few used bikes with the X35 system coming on to the market but they are often at high prices. Most manufacturers seem to be breaking delivery promises due to lack of parts etc. when you are in a position to buy, I would suggest deciding on the the ideal choice for you, order it then forget about it until delivery. Good luck with whatever you decide.
@@RideWithRoy thanks for the quick response Roy, I looked at the Orbea and it looks like a great bike. Decided to rein my needs in and order one of Ribbles ‘dispatch within 48hrs’ bikes which was a normal Hyrid, spent a few hours mulling over which one and when I went to place the order all of the 48hr dispatch bikes ship in July - huh?? That really did it for me with Ribble so ordered a Trek FX 3 disc 2022 as my starter bike and when the time is right and I can do a order and forget period will order the ebike.
I would have to choose both, due to them serving differing needs. Both are similar to ride in terms of comfort but the Ribble has the option of power. The RC520 is a superb bike and serves most of my needs, but the Ribble sees me riding on days when I don’t have the energy for the manual Triban.
@@RideWithRoy Spoken like a true cyclist; "Have to have both/all!" 🤣. Love it! If the CGR was a standard model without e motor, would you still choose it over the Triban?
I nearly added that to my first answer but knew you’d ask 😂. The answer is no. Spec for spec the Triban RC520 beats anything on the market. Ribble provide the opportunity to build your own spec, but at a price. I could easily live with the Triban spec and still have money to spare to upgrade if I felt the need. The colour is a bit drab but I can easily live with that.
I'm thinking about picking up a Triban RC500 currently. In Malaysian Ringgitsz they cost £498. Already having a Giant tCR Advanced 2 (2020) is kind of holding me back. Would you say the 500 is as desirable as the 520? Another thing is the wheels. How difficult is it to find aftermarket 700xlc disc brake QR wheels?
It depends what you want. I really wanted Shimano 105 and hydraulic disc brakes, so the 520 was ideal for me. This is my main summer bike at the moment but if I had a Giant TCR I’d probably settle for the 500. With regard to wheels, I found plenty of choice. I damaged one of my wheels so changed them for a pair of Shimano RX010 with QR and centre lock discs for £125 from Probikekit. Nice looking wheels and the new Michelin Protek tyres went on with just thumbs. As I shall commence my new build over winter, the Triban will become my winter bike, so I didn’t want to spend too much on new wheels.
MapMyRide v Strava On a ride with a friend, both starting and finishing together and doing the exact same route, we had markedly different readings on our iPhones using two different Apps, Strava and MapMyRide. with Strava we completed 117.28 kilometres and 1485 metres of climbing with MapMyRide 113.90 kilometres and 1961 metres of climbing Why is there such a discrepancy? Which app is the more accurate? Does anyone have the answer to this conundrum?
I’ve found differences using Strava on the same ride with Garmin and phone, Roy. This article explains it well support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001188624-Why-is-my-activity-s-distance-different-than-my-friend-s-
You would need the xx small or x small. As you are between the two you would need to consider your flexibility. It would be best to speak with a Ribble advisor.
No, I didn’t bother with the update and no issues either. My contact at Mahle said it’s optional. It’s a a few minutes work for the shop with cables supplied by Mahle, so a bit steep at £40
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Another good review Roy. I love my Ribble cgr ale only done 600 miles but for someone new to cycling and age 61 I can highly recommend it.
Hi. Sorry to bother you. Do you find it gives much help going up hills. It's where I struggle. But wondering if u should just go with the non E bike and save money.
@@lonegravelbiker4239 Hi Daniel. Yes it does help with hills, obviously depends on the setting you choose. It feels like someone has a hand on your back pushing you up. Someone else described the feeling like walking down a moving bus. Highly recommend if your struggling with hills. Expensive but I don’t regret buying it.
Thanks Roy. I own the equivalent Orbea bike, also with an Ebikemotion engine. I had spotted this model and had given up any hope to get one soon. Then I entered a shop selling Orbea and they happened to have one model in the shop! Tried it and bought it instantly! I fully agree with you: it's a great system for people who need a little e-support, and the bike looks great (not one of those ugly e-bikes). I'm so happy with it: I find myself biking like never before... I really don't regret my spontaneous purchase at all! Enjoy the rides! Greetings from Brussels. (I just find the range extender awfully expensive)
Welcome, David, good to have Belgium represented here I seriously considered the Orbea. What swayed it in the end was the ability to build my own spec via Ribble. Everything fell just right for you there, didn’t it. I can see why you gave in to your impulse to buy - great decision. I agree regarding the Range Extender price. Frankly, although I own one, I rarely use it so, thankfully, it’s something most of us can do without.
Got a Ribble CRG SL 105, had it for over 5 years now. Done over 14,500km and it's still going strong. I've replaced a lot of components and have two wheel sets (road/gravel). It's now my winter road/gravel bike. I love it.
I'm a big fan of e-bikes and like the look of this Ribble. A very thorough review. JP
Thanks, JP 👍
Just got my first ebike - a Ribble CGR ALe - a few days a ago and I love it. I was initially worried about how hard it would be when power assist stops ar 15. 5 mph. No worries - I hardly notice it tbh. I guess because I'm usually on the flat or on a downhill stretch when the assist stops, it feels smooth and have no problem maintaining a reasonable speed. So far, I've only used the eco setting which gives my 74 yr old legs a little help on hills and/or into a strong head wind. Thanks for all the info and advice Roy - very helpful.
That’s great to hear, Michael. If you haven’t already done so, it would be worth checking out my video on removing the rear wheel, just in case. I wish you many happy years of riding it.
@@RideWithRoy Cheers Roy, will check it out! 👍
Hi micky, nice to know there are other older guys out there cycling!
Roy, so pleased with my Ribble CGR ale with ultegra and Schwalbe 40mm. Now this I ordered pending a trip to ride in Portugal with my Wife, whom has a carbon fibre ,Ribble Endurance SLE. (as Sean Yeates)...This as a present for my wife.due to back problems arriving over the years of enjoyable cycling, for leisure... Now ! ME,, on My Pinarello lightweight NON e road race bike , the riding together experience found my wife on her Ribble Endurance SL E, actually passing me on some. if not many climbs .. But we both arrived home at the same time,which was great...Later On my discovering that I needed a complete right hip replacement,,( result of keeping fit and racing ?). I have bought the CGR ALe...and must say that after recovering from Hip Job,,,noo mean trial ,I am riding again using only the low power level green 1 ( knowing a bit in reserve )and thoroughly enjoying every minute of it,having spent last two winter periods in Portugal,,Thanks to have had the opportunity to gift myself with this marvel from Ribble Cycles ..It is all a brilliant story for my Wife and myself,enabling us to continue enjoying the thrill that cycling has brought us over many years of the leisure side of the edge of the sport. ...James Young
What a great story, James, and so good that you and your wife share the passion from cycling. E assist bikes really do help when we would otherwise have to stop cycling. Long may you both continue to enjoy it.
I found Roy because I was researching this bike. Bought one and when it eventually arrived (consistent failures by Ribble to meet their own deadlines, non existent communication) I love it. I keep on green setting and average about 6% battery every 10 miles - (I weigh 15st). Average ride distance has increased and I don't avoid hills anymore !!
Thanks, Ian, that’s great information to add.👍
I’ve just came across your channel, very informative and honest review, very helpful. Thank you and safe riding…
Thank you, and welcome - I’m pleased you found me.
Thanks Roy. I agree with your thoughts on the bike. I bought a hybrid AL e in 2019 and haven’t had any regrets and use it on the Downslink down to Brighton. Didn’t know about the bad paintwork haven’t had any problems although I did have it custom painted by Ribble in a gun metal grey. I have had the dreaded purple flashing light when charging but like you mentioned turning the wheels a few times seems to solve the problem.
Customer service is ok although did have to wait 6 months for the bike. All the best !
That’s good to know. I’ve just upgraded mine with the Redshift Kitchen Sink handlebar and suspension seatpost. It’s like a different bike on the rough stuff.
An excellent updated report Roy - Many thanks (Martin)
Thank you Roy, all I know about the Mahle x35 system I get from your reviews.
Hi Roy. Thanks again for another great watch. My first chip on my CGR Al E today! The G is for gravel so was a bit surprised. I,LL have to source some touch up paint also although mine is the grey version. Still love my Ribble though.
Thank you, Tim. I know that a gravel bike is meant to take some knocks, but I still like to keep it looking good. It’s also in Ribble’s interests to have their product taken care of as it’s a mobile ad for them.
I always invisframe any new bike I get now. Never get a scratch and dirt is so easy to clean off
Thanks Roy - that was very useful. Been toying with the idea of buying one of these for about a year. Think I might just do it.
Thanks, Stuart. The only thing I would add now is that Mahle have launched the X20 system. It’s more advanced than the X35 but only being used by a couple of manufacturers - Scott being one. If I was in the market but not in a rush I would wait for others to adopt the new system.
mahle-smartbike.com/x20/
Hi thanks for the video I have brought one and found your comments useful 😊
Many thanks Roy for your super in depth review of the CGR al e. Mine should be with me in around 2 weeks. To be fair Ribble have kept me in the loop with the delivery and my original delivery date has been bought foreword 2 weeks. Pre-armed with the paint issues you encountered I have bought some nylon washers and helicopter tape to attempt to mitigate the paint chipping problems you showed. I have already received the extender battery and now I'm chomping at the bit to expand my riding distances up in Gods Own County. I really do hope you have received some positive treatment for your shoulder problem. Again thanks for posting your cycling videos, I think I must of watched ALL of them at least twice. Take care and keep up the good work fella.
Thank you for your kind comment, it means a lot. It’s great that you’re getting your bike early and that Ribble have kept you informed. Maybe they only stick their heads in the sand when orders are late. I had a few problems early on and they were very helpful in sorting it. Let’s hope you get some decent weather to try your new toy. I had the steroid injection in the shoulder a week ago today, which hurt like Hell for a few days. I thought it was improving after that but now I’m not so sure, but thanks for asking. The good thing is that cycling eases it 🙂
Very informative video Roy, many thanks!
I was interested in seeing your views on this bike, as I also have a CGR ale. I bought mine, fully loaded as it were with Ultegra and DI2 as a 69th birthday present to myself, originally as insurance against not making it up some of the steeper hills around here. Instead, with its 40mm Schwalbe All Round tyres, its opened up the joy of gravel to me, something I wouldn't have even thought about trying on my "me-powered" bikes.
I certainly agree with you about the Ebike Motion companion app. I find it VERY phone battery intensive, so much so I daren't leave the app running on the phone during a ride, so the mapping and journey recording side of it is a total waste of time. As for the bike battery usage, I find it extremely economic. A few days ago I completed a hilly 70 mile trip, about a third of which was off road on the unpaved section of the Fosseway, north of Bath. Toward the end of the trip, battery assist was in use a fair bit (none of us are getting any younger!), but still got home with 15% battery capacity left.
I must admit, I've not had any problems regarding paint chipping, but I did go for a custom paint finish (white fading to grey with red flashes) rather than the stock orange or grey, which were the choices when I bought mine.
If there are any downsides, it is that iWoc system. If you're on a hill that suddenly steepens, it can be so easy to press it too many times while trying to increase the assist, ending up switching the electric assist off, just when you need it most!!
All in all, I have to say that its probably the best bike I've owned, both for comfort and stability.
Very posh, Bernie. I'm 69 soon so I may have to upgrade. I used to have a bike with Di2 but the thing lasted so long on one charge it caught me out a couple of times when it went flat on me the wrong side of some climbs.
You may look into the garmin ebike remote. That's what I plan to install.
Had my Ribble SLE Enthusiast 3 months now and doing my first century next month! (aged 53 and new to cycling) Hoping the battery will see me good with intermittent use when I'm feeling the strain! Great videos Roy and really useful - just found this one.
Thanks, Gill. A first century is very exciting and very special afterwards. My first one was the Tour of Cambridgeshire, after which I said ‘done that no need to repeat’. Many repeats later….. Your SLE is so light I’m sure you’ll make it. It’s so nice being able to ride without power but know it’s there if you need it. Good luck with the ride and please report back 😀
@Ride With Roy Thanks so much - I'll let you know. I hope, like you, it will be the first of many
Thanks. What a great review, answered all my questions.
This is a great video. Searched because I’ve been popping into a rubble shop and I’ve always wanted a gravel bike and an ebike. I ride acoustic hardtails more on a cross country set up. I’m 52 and could just do with a bit of assist now and then. Plus I could use it for bike packing. Thanks a lot has helped me make my mind up.
Thanks, Darren, I’m pleased it helped. The only issue with Ribble is the delivery lead time. I don’t know what it’s like now but it was very long a few months ago. There are now many more manufacturers using the Mahle X35 so more choice for you. As you will see, I ride acoustic much of the time, but there are days that I really don’t have the get up and go, so the assist ensures I get out. Keep us updated on what you choose.
@@RideWithRoy will do. Rubble appear ok with their quoted lead in times at the minute but will see. Certainly will let you know.
Great review Roy as per! Had my CGR Al e since end of June and extremely happy with it. Initially I found the ride quite hard as my previous bike was. Ribble HF83 all carbon with DI2 which absorbed a lot more of the shock, however since your review of the Redshift system have mounted both seat post and stem which has made an amazing difference👍am still on the Marathons but reduced pressures back and front which also helps the ride but a slower ride accordingly but am not interested in fast rides anymore! I’m usually doing about 30-40 mile rides on average right now and trying to use 0 as much as possible power to conserve battery life and normally finish a ride with about 30% left. Not sure whether I’d like to run it right down as it’s quite a heavy bike to push🤔 I look forward to more of your very interesting videos, keep ‘em coming👍😊
Always love seeing a new video from you Roy. Literally check every day for a new Roy video as I've been through and watched every single one of your videos after finding your original CGR review.
I think Ribble should be giving you commission as I bet many people have bought one after watching your videos. You have certainly inspired me. I came close to buying a CGR AL E myself but in the end I opted for the CGR Ti and I am currently waiting (ETA late November). It's interesting you mention the size. I was right on the line between a small and a medium. I went to their showroom and first person I saw looked at me and said "You're about the same size as me, I'd go for the medium, I'd never ride a small" He pulled the display bike off the display and told me that was a medium. I sat on it and my 'undercarriage' was resting on the top bar. I went on the sizing rig they have with a different guy and he also suggested a medium just from looking at me. He set it up to reflect the medium and it felt okay to ride and he told me that's what he'd suggest, but I also got him to set up a small and I preferred the small setup. I find it interesting that they were suggesting me to go up to the bigger size, yet their website seems to suggest going smaller is easier to make a bike fit.
That’s a really nice message, Rob, and it makes it all worthwhile. I’ve been a bit slow on the video making lately. I shall be explaining why in my next video, which should be finished by the weekend. I filmed last Sunday’s 120 mile Triban ride and also used the opportunity to chat about what I’ve been up to. I try to do something once a week, but only if I’ve got something interesting to feature.
Your Ribble experience sounds terribly unprofessional. Why invest in a measuring rig if you’re going to guess at a size? I went over to the Birmingham store and was immediately put on the sizing rig. As I said, I could have gone for either, but the size down XS felt right. It was a longer delivery than a small and I almost changed my mind just to get it sooner. I made an expensive mistake in buying a Giant Defy with all the bells and whistles. The price was good so I ignored that it was a size up from what the guidance said. It was so uncomfortable to ride as I was too stretched out, so I was fearful of making the same mistake again.
It would be interesting to know how many bikes have been sold as a result of that original review. I have just been accepted into Ribble’s affiliate programme, through an agency, so if anyone buys from Ribble, using the link in the description, they pay something like £20 per bike sold. That’s very welcome as it helps with running costs but is not enough to compromise my integrity.
I am sure you are going to love the new bike, Rob, and the end of November will soon come around.
Hi Roy ive had a SLR road bike and had customised paintwork. i'm having the same problem with the paintwork not being very robust. a little annoyed as the bike cost 6.5 K
90 p touch up brilliant clear and informative and inspiring thanks
I have the Merida e motion bike with the same system as the ribble absolutely love it. I’ve ridden over 70 miles on a charge as mine only assists under 15 mph. That seems to compare with yours. Good to see a review of an e motion bike, they get little reviews by cycling journalists.
Nice bike, John. Yes, it’s a great system and allows designers to make a bike look ‘normal’.
Thanks Roy, another great video. Have noted your comments re-scratches/paintwork which are also echoed on the Facebook groups (even on delivery). This is especially relevant as my CGR ALe is due for the dispatch 01/10 :). Also good to hear your initial tyre review and looking forward to how the Continental Contact Plus Tyres perform in the wet/winter. (A think a new set of winter boots will be the first Change for the Bike when it arrives - please don't leave the review too long!!!! ;) )
Thanks, Steve. I’ll report as soon as the tyres scare me 😀
Very informative review Roy, that is definitely the system I will get when I eventually, move to an E-Bike, but hopefully carry on with my manual powered bike for a few more years, helps me as a types to have cake at my cafe stops, if I have option of assistance on a ride might be tempted to take the easy option and switch assist on , and not burn quite as many cabs as normal
Interesting review Roy.. 👍
Thanks for making this review found it very informative. I am looking to buy a lightweight e assist road bike with shimano 105 for a while now but would love to buy a ribble but no stockists in Republic of Ireland that I can find
My next video will be out next week and is a review of a great conversion kit for a standard bike. Really simple to fit and just as easy to remove for days when power isn’t needed.
Thanks Roy. Watched your first video a year or so back and now "finally" in a position to buy a couple of e-bikes for my wife & myself. Been really helpful watching your reviews as many of the questions I wanted to ask... you've now already answered for me.
Our reason for looking at e-bikes is that we sometimes travel longer distances with rack & panniers and the extra boost on those hills will offer some welcome relief. Day rides (like yourself) we'll be happy to be able to inject a little low power for headwinds or for the end of the ride if we're flagging.
Just wondered if you might comment a little more on the group set you chose please? My wife wants a granny gear for climbing steep hills when laden with panniers. I had thought the 1x system might be a better choice... but would be grateful if you could let me know your own experience of climbing hills in the lowest gear ratio with the bike fully loaded. Do you think the 105 system offers a good enough low ratio?
Best regards... and thanks again for posting the reviews. Please keep up the good work!
A & J
Thanks, Andrew. As I ride a mixture of 70% road and 30% trails the 105 setup suits me well. The 11/32 cassette will see me up the 18% climbs in my area without difficulty. However, I’m rarely fully loaded. My ride partner, Wendy, uses a Ribble Hybrid with the SRAM single ring groupset and she handles hills with total ease. However, she can’t keep up with me on the flat. I would certainly think that your wife would be better off with the single ring. If you are a reasonably fit rider and want to ride road sometimes without the loaded bike, the 105 should work well. When I change the cassette on my Triban I’ll upgrade to an 11/34, but I don’t feel the need to do this on the electric. I hope that helps but feel free to contact me on ridingwithroy@gmail.com if you want a more detailed chat. If you do decide on Ribble, I would be grateful if you would use tidd.ly/2TPxLdq to link to their website. This helps the channel as they will pay a very small commission on any item purchased and it costs you the same. Good luck with your search and I look forward to hearing about what you decide upon.
@@RideWithRoy Many thanks Roy. Sound advice & I'll make sure we both use the link above to buy our bikes after we test drive tomorrow - as we credit your reviews as a main reason for us choosing Ribble in the first place. If you benefit too - then it's a win win for everyone IMHO :-)
Roy thanks for another infomative video. From your original one on the Ribble CGR I too went to purchase one. Unfortunately the delivery date (originally March) kept moving out and end up being end of September or so. So I purchased a Wilier jena hybrid (same x35 system) with a GRX gearing. It's really helping me tackle the steep hills here in North Devon, its not a free ride (as you mention) but for me gives me confidence to go further on my aging knees/legs. I use bike protection tape on my bikes (helicopter tape) on the underside of the down tubes etc which helps prevent the odd chip. Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks for this 👍 I like the look of the Willer and that would have been an option I would have considered, but it wasn’t available for when I was in the market. It’s great that there’s so much more choice now. Thanks for the tape tip. I used to have plenty of this to protect the prop when I was flying. I’ll have to root around to see if I still have some. It was under the chain stay from the factory but more extensive use would be worth it.
Another great vlog Roy, very informative. Tim and I certainly would consider an e-bike in the future if the need arises 👍🏻
Thank you Gez. The next one is going to be very familiar to you two 😃
Great review, thinking of buying one for the wife, so really helpful. Thanks.
Love your videos - thank you for making them.
Having subscribed a while ago to your channel, may I say how much I have enjoyed your interesting and informative videos? The two about this Ribble in particular, because, after a long period of vacillation, your exposition of the facts inspired me to finally decide to go for elec/assistance. About three years ago, at the age of 87, I reluctantly had to concede that things were not as they had been. Hills - I live in a hilly area of SW France - were becoming irksome, to the point where I was consciously avoiding them, but with not much flat terrain my riding options were becoming limited and thus repetitive. My perception of e-bikes at the time were that they were expensive and very heavy, and not particularly attractive to a road biker, so I just stuck as I was. As an aside, which I mention because I know you are a Decathlon enthusiast, I had stolen, at about that time, a very nice Vitus bike for which, due to a glitch of some sort, I received a virtually derisory insurance pay out. Not feeling justified in spending a lot on a new bike, on the strength of an excellent review by road cc., I actually purchased a Decathlon Btwin Triban 100 (now the RC 100) - the absolute basic entry model. The purists would have been horrified, but to my astonishment it proved to be an excellent bike- it rode equally as well as the Vitus, and with a change to road tyres I got the weight down to 10.8 kg, including pedals - only a little heavier than the Vitus. Bottom end components, admittedly, but they do the job. That then is my current bike - relevant for later.
Back to the electrics. Road e-bikes like the Ribble are unfortunately well out of my price range, so, wanting to keep my road bike, I looked at conversion kits. These can also be expensive and some add a lot of weight - as much as 4 to 6kg plus, some of them. The best option, both cost and weight wise appeared to be a friction drive system, and after some research I decided to opt for one of these. It only adds 2.7kg, giving me a very acceptable 13.5 kg all up unloaded weight, with a total cost (thank you Decathlon) of about 720 pounds - an acceptable result, I feel, particularly as the 'road' appearance is hardly affected. Although the bike/kit combo is obviously not as refined or as powerful/versatile as a road e-bike, it does what it says on the tin, gets me up those hills very efficiently and will enable me to get further afield. All this screed is to point out, that although I did not go down your exact route, it was your explanation of the basic principles which led me to the position I am in now, for which many thanks.
On another tack, I lived just outside Lincoln from 2,000 to 2,009 and your ride videos of the area - Brayford, Saltergate, the Water Railway, Bardney, dropping down to the Pie Wype, etc. have brought back many happy memories - for which again, many thanks.
Well your message made my day, Edward. I’m pleased you like my videos. I don’t follow any particular format so you never know what you’re going to get. It’s great to hear you are only just needing to go electric at 87 - there’s still hope for me at at 69. I would imagine that regular cycling has contributed to your longevity. The friction drive sounds like a workable solution. I often ride my Ribble without power; just adding it for the harder hills, depending upon how I feel on the day. We have a house in Haute-Vienne, which for obvious reasons we’ve not managed to visit since September 2020. I keep my first road bike there, a Fuji Sportif, so can enjoy the beautifully quiet (and well maintained) lanes of France. I wish you many more years of enjoying the open road.
@@RideWithRoy Nice to hear from you - glad my message did not come amiss. Actually the kit was a treat to myself for my 90th birthday in December - I persevered manually through the last three years. I only recently received it and have just done my fourth ride - early days, but workable it certainly appears to be.
We live in the Lot Dept. and I can certainly attest to the maintenance of even the most rural of roads.
Best regards and keep the videos coming.
90! That is amazing! Wendy, who features regularly in my videos, has a house in the Lot. Quite a few climbs she says.
@@RideWithRoy And she's right! We live in the town of Souillac, about 15k south of Brive, and we were wondering if by any chance Wendy's property was anywhere near. If she would prefer not to say on an open forum like this, that would be quite understandable, but I was just thinking that, if I was actually still extant when she is finally allowed to visit again, we could perhaps do a shared ride or two if that would appeal. The Haute-Vienne isn't impossibly far away, either.
No, Brive is doable from us. I have mentioned your post to Wendy so she will probably comment. Hopefully one or both of us can meet up with you.
I just got a e-bike too. I got a small as I'm 5'8" and wanted to put my shock stop seat post on as well. I am healing from a fractured arm and leg so the e-bike makes rides more enjoyable. I just installed the shock stop stem on it and I can't wait to see how that gets on. I have the v2 roadster from Ride 1 Up that has a road bike geometry. I'm in Hawaii so 28 mph is the limit for e-bikes which is nice. I haven't gone that fast as my motor only is 350w nominal and 500w max, but it was a value price so I like it a lot. I have many other carbon race bikes so I didn't need another flashy e-bike while I'm healing. Anyhoo, I really enjoyed your video and insights. New subscriber here.
Welcome, thanks for joining us. That sounds a great bike and a wonderful place to be riding it in. Although it’s your ride while healing, I’m sure you’ll be enjoying it alongside your carbon superbikes long after you’re back to full strength, such is the fun of e assist.
Thanks for this. Very informative.
Nice bike and an encouragement to consider one. My concern is not how many miles the battery will take you but how feasible it is to replace the battery when it finally dies. I hate waste and worry that a perfectly good bike has to be scrapped due to the cost or unavailability of a new battery.
Thanks, Colin. The battery is easily replaceable through an inspection plate at the base of the frame. This is easily removable and, while they say it’s a dealer job, in reality it’s just plug and play. I doubt it will be long before we see lower cost after market copies for these and the range extender.
Really great vid Roy and really informative and objective view 👏🏼 definitely interested in getting one now. What camera do you use, as due to so many near misses on rides thinking of getting one to give a bit of evidence should the worse happen 🤞🏼😑
Thanks, Phil. I use the cheap and cheerful Chilli Tech Bullet cam. Their best deals are advertised on Facebook. Mine is the original so the new version will be a better image but mine is good enough to capture an incident and is still going strong. I get about four hours per battery and carry a spare. I don’t hesitate to report dangerous incidents as it’s the only way some will learn.
@@RideWithRoy spot on mate thank you for replying 👍🏼 I’m even contemplating selling my beloved pinarello to get one of these Ribble e’s I think it’s the way forward 👏🏼
I was going to buy a ribble e bike, but the waiting time was months! Not acceptable to me. So I bought a "Trek AL+5" road/electric, cheaper, available, and great fit and finish. I easily get over 100 miles on a full charge. Although because it's quite light in weight (12kg?) and the drive system is so good I hardly use the electric motor. I am 70 BTW and do about 300 miles a month. If you want a good alternative to the ribble I can heartily recommend the Trek.
And customer service seems to have gone downhill at Ribble, so a good call👍
@RideWithRoy cheers Roy, I rode all the way over to the main Ribble showroom on my motorbike from Leeds in march this year to buy a Ribble e bike. The salesman basically told me they prefer to just sell online, and didn't seem interested at all. Then when he told me it was a six month wait for a bike I wasn't impressed. Keep up the good work on the videos, it's nice to hear your views and opinions. I notice you wear a "Kask" helmet, they are good quality, a great fit, and quietly aerodynamic, recommended. Love from Leeds!
I must say that I got the opposite service in Birmingham. The salesman, Charlie, was extremely helpful and spent a lot of time measuring me for the perfect fit, but that was a few years ago. I had a problem when I first got the bike and they were also helpful in sorting it, so I have to speak as I find. Sadly, that’s not the experience many are reporting these days. The other issue is the awfully brittle paint that chips easily. I seem to gather helmets. The Kask is comfortable but I now wear a Specialized with MIPS protection, which is even more comfortable than the Kask. I’m also in the process of testing a Smart Helmet, that I’ll review shortly, so you’ll note a few changes if helmet 😀 By the way, I don’t know if you’ve seen a mention of it yet but I’m also 70 😎
Hi Roy, I've thoroughly appreciated watching some of your videos about the Ribble and Redshift Shockstop. Tremendously helpful to someone like me who is just starting out looking at gravel bikes. What tyres do you use on yours? I'm interested in whether e.g. you use a 700x35c and whether that still feels ok on the rough stuff since you added the Shockstop
Thank you. I do indeed use 700x35 on the Ribble and Triban while on the new Titanium I’ve fitted 650b, and also 35mm. I find this width the best balance between road and gravel. Enough cushioning, even without the Shockstop stem and seatpost, while no noticeable drag on tarmac. I did spec Marathon tyres on the Ribble from new but I did find them skittish in the wet. I blame these for the two ‘unintended dismounts’ I had😀 I changed these for Continental Contact Plus. Reviews said they were grippy and puncture resistant. With these fitted I have much more confidence on wet tarmac. I don’t do really wet and muddy tracks so can’t speak for those conditions. Another tyre worth considering is the Michelin Protek. I picked these up for about £12.50 each. Way too cheap to be any good but reviews were good for grip and puncture resistance. I have these on my Triban and am very pleased. Of course, with the Shockstop stem and seatpost the bikes ride like a magic carpet. I swap the seatpost between bikes as I like it so much. I don’t move the stem, which is now on the new Titanium bike, as it’s more of a job. I hope that helps.
@@RideWithRoy You're a top man, thank you for all the help and advice
Nice review, the ebike revolution rolls on. Another good winter tyre is the Schwalbe 365 GT, no grip issues like on the Marathons. Cheers Roy
Thanks, Mike/Julie. I remember you recommending them in Birmingham, but there was no stock when I was in the market, so I’ll try them next time.
@@RideWithRoy definitely worth keeping in mind. Have used the Contact Plus around town too but don't remember what they were like, so I guess that's a good thing.👍
Hi Roy
Watching you ride through the country estate it does look like you are missing the Redshift with the handlebars shaking like a Charity collection can,
another interesting honest video that we can all understand
Yes, I swapped it back to the standard one to make the review more relevant. However, I quickly regretted it! I now swap the seatpost over to the Triban when I use that but the stem is more of a chore to change, so I may have to buy another one. It’s strange how we managed for all these years without the Shockstop but now don’t want to do without it. I rode theTriban 120 miles on Sunday and averaged 14 mph, which is supersonic for me. And the only change is the Shockstop 🤔
I managed to get the Orbea Gain M30 105 groupset on sale. It's been my main mode of transport for over 2 years. I bought the Range extender recently to not only increase the range but also put less stress on the main battery, especially when I use the SpeedFun Ghost eBikeMotion X35 to bring it up to 18-19 MPH on highest setting. The Mahle Ebikemotion has grown on me over the years while Mid drive motors like Bosch are more efficient the only bike I like with this Motor is the Canyan Grail -ON.
The new eBikeMotion X20 looks like good progress with ebike technology but I wont be buying a new bike for many years, I'd rather upgrade my Orbea M30, the longer we all wait the more Ebike technology improves. I just hope prices do not keep going up.
Sounds like you got a good deal with the Orbea. I enquired about reviewing the X20 but it’s only being fitted by Scott at this time.
Great update thank you.
I am looking at the alternative AL e Gravel, any advice on why I should go instead for the CGR?
Thanks, Keith. I had a quick look at the AL e Gravel and the main difference appears to be the groupset. The Cross Gravel Road (CGR) is ideal for my needs as I often ride all of those surfaces on a single outing. The road style gearing will be better on roads and firm surfaces whereas the Gravel spec will have gearing more suited to off road. I'm no expert on groupsets, but have noted that the 1x single front chainring gravel types appear less road friendly, with larger jumps between gears. So it's really down to what you will use the bike for. Good luck with whatever you choose.
@@RideWithRoy Many thanks, personally I don't think I would be unhappy with either but I have a good road bike and I want the Gravel bike to be good enough on the road to get me to the trails so the groupset needs to make up for my shortcomings on the tough stuff but not TOO technical stuff.
Thanks for your quick reply too.
Good video. Somewhat concerned to see the problems with paint chipping - especially as I'm awaiting delivery (expected first week in October) of my CGR AL e (also in red).
Thanks, Roy. I wouldn't be too concerned as new models may not have this problem. It's only an issue with mine at the contact points and the visible parts of the frame are fine. It wouldn't stop me from buying the bike but I would insist on a free touch up paint. I don't look at the facebook forum but Tim says there are similar comments on there.
Hi Roy. Love the videos on this bike, it really helped me chose it as my e-bike. So I’m waiting for mine to be delivered and I’m considering buying a SEASUCKER rack for it for my car. What is the inner measurement of the forks where the front axle is? You have to buy specific plugs for the SEASUCKER depending on that measurement.
I don’t know that rack, Matthew, so can’t comment. I’m away cycling the coast to coast this week so don’t have the Ribble with me. But I’ll gladly measure it when I return. It would be worth checking with Ribble just in case anything has changed since mine was supplied. I hope you get your bike soon.
@@RideWithRoy thanks Roy! I’ll give them a shout and wait for your measurements. All the best
@@matthewbrooks4381 back now, Matthew. The inner measurement between the front forks is 100mm and the through axle is 110mm. Let me know if you need anything more and I’ll be happy to help.
@@RideWithRoy that’s absolutely perfect thanks so much for looking!!!
To protect paint work use clear helicopter tape. I have on my bike going strong after 4 years hardly any chip paint work on the bike. I can never afford an e bike. Good video.
Unfortunately, the areas where paint chips off are where heli tape can’t be affixed - dropouts etc. I know many people are having this problem and others aren’t, so I guess it’s down to the painting method used on different models. Personally, it doesn’t bother me too much as it’s a gravel bike and will pick up some chips. I have acres of the stuff on my titanium frame 😀
Mega: When you reach the point of needing an e-bike, check out a kit to convert your present machine. I converted my 'cheapie' road bike last year with a Revos friction drive kit. It is very simple and very light - bike and kit only 13.5kg - and works very well and retains the road bike appearance. Not quite as refined as the hub motor, I suppose, and only has one power level, but it gives a reasonable simulation of bikes like the Ribble or Orbea at a fraction of the cost.
Great review! Thanks! 15kg fully equipped meaning which accessories?
Tools lights and drinks holders.
I also decided on the Mahle Ebikemotion X35+ on my Scott Addict e-ride and it is proving well worth the investment. Using the green ( lowest power) I can expect between 50-60 miles depending on elevation etc. just from the internal frame battery. I did invest in the Mahle Pulsar one handlebar display unit which is more in the line of sight and allows you to change up and down the power settings instantly without scrolling through the 3 levels and it frees up my cell phone too. So far 3000+ trouble free miles and still a few of my fellow cycling club members are unaware it’s an ebike 🤷🏽♂️ Carry on the good work Roy 👍.
Thanks, Bob. I’m pleased you mentioned the Pulsar.
@@RideWithRoy Hi Roy, pulsar 1 also frees up the area for my top tube bag 😜
It's wireless. Look also for the garmin ebike remote which is standalone and with garmin edge supported on newer x35+
@Wooly Chewbakker Not wired. Bluetooth setup.
Love your vids Roy, like you I'm really enjoying my ebike, I have a La Pierre eSensium running the same emotion system as yours. It would be good if you could cover what I call the Pink light of death! I think people would find it useful as it's hardly talked about. Through my own research I've found you can reset it or balance the battery cells which I haven't found in the official material but the again I hate manuals! My bike battery has failed after only 2,600 miles and the dealer seems at a complete loss! Anyway, thanks and keep up the good work.
Thanks, Lorna. The the ‘pink light of death’ plagued me for weeks when I first got the bike. Ribble, at that time, hadn’t got a clue so referred me to Ebikmotion, as they were then. They solved the problem which was that I had one of a batch of batteries that required a firmware update. Once that was done (dealer job) all has been well 🤞. Making a video of that is difficult as there can be many causes, but I’ll see what I can do. In your case, have you connected the app to see if it shows a fault code? Mahle are able to connect to your app to fault find, so might be worth contacting them direct. Mention that I have suggested the contact. It’s also worth remembering that, even though your bike may be out of warranty, you still have six years within which to claim that the goods ‘don’t meet your reasonable expectations’ which you would have to make via the selling dealer. They could argue that the battery is a consumable item, to which I would point to their 500 charge cycles claim. You can check actual charge cycles by going to the ‘Engineering’ section of the app. The battery is the heart of the system as it also contained the electronics. I hope you get it sorted out but feel free to email me if you need further help on ridingwithroy@gmail.com
Like the others I really enjoy your videos Roy. I have a CGR Ale on order and am looking forward to getting it. Unfortunately it keeps getting delayed. Originally due August 6,then 26, then September 3 then September 9 and now due tomorrow. I will believe it when I see it…. Not too impressed with their (total lack of) communication - I have to go on the web site for the updated dispatch date, which is only updated after the bike should have been dispatched. Interestingly the reason for the latest delay is apparently sub standard paintwork which is having to be redone in the UK. Fingers crossed that this will solve the chipping issue.
I am a bit surprised you don’t have mudguards, given the amount of all weather riding you do. Why not? I find they make wet road riding far more pleasant (though they don’t look too good)
Thanks, Keith. I would be insisting on some compensation. Others have managed to get an upgrade or some free items. The least I would accept is a refund of delivery charge. I appreciate there is a global bike parts shortage, and other supply issues, but that’s no excuse for lack of communication. I do use mudguards but take them off in summer. They’ll be going back on any day now. Apart from from the other benefits it’s kind to anyone riding behind. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.
@@RideWithRoy I will demand compensation. After the point at which the bike should have been dispatched, I looked at the website to see if it had indeed been dispatched, to find the message "Unfortunately your build has encountered a slight logistical delay. Please find your new estimated build date detailed above. [October 1st] We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. We are doing everything we can to get your bike built and despatched as soon as possible. Thank you for your continued patience. Team Ribble" Not impressed at all! Again, no contact from them and every two weeks it just gets put back another two weeks. It was originally due August the 6th and I am told they had all the components in stock two weeks ago. What
That is really bad, Keith. It suggests they have so many late deliveries that they don’t even bother speaking to customers. My natural instinct would be to cancel and buy another brand, but that probably wouldn’t bother them as they’d sell your bike to someone else and you probably wouldn’t be able to get anything else anyway. This is so disappointing as, apart from the paint issue, it’s a quality product let down by poor communication. I doubt it will improve anything but a letter to CEO Andy Smallwood might make you feel a bit better. And it might guarantee the latest delivery date. Please keep me updated.
I had exactly this issue with my delivery (my comment up above). I found leaving a one star review on trust pilot made the social media team engage with me - at least had a point of contact even if their promised 'keep me in the loop' didn't amount to much. I got £200 back in the end
Thanks for letting us know, Ian. Glad you got some compensation. If all those with late deliveries get the same amount it might make Ribble wake up.
Thanks Roy, really useful. I agree with the comments regarding Ribbles communications though. I ordered mine in May and am still awaiting delivery. I fully understand the challenges of supply in recent months but the updates on my account are very last minute and the live chat simply fobs you off with standard responses which is a pity. Still looking forward to getting the bike though even if I have missed the summer 😩👍
One of the easiest parts of the process is good communication, so never an excuse. So many organisations don’t want to give bad news, which only makes the customer more annoyed. It’s much better to take the sting out of a late delivery by calling the customer early. I’ve just heard from one subscriber who has cancelled a £6000 order for two bikes due to very poor interaction with Ribble, so another manufacturer will now benefit. Such a shame that a great product is poorly supported by weak customer service.
Another great vid
Thank you for this review it has convinced me to treat myself to the Ribble CGR AL e with the 105 group set. Could you please confirm what wheels you chose.
Mine were the standard Mavic Aksium but I think now they fit an upgraded Mavic. I noted that one of our subscribers is selling his medium CGR AL-e but I don’t know the spec.
@@RideWithRoy Thankyou. Unfortunately I am vertically challenged and would need a XS frame. The standard wheel set from the site are the Mavic ksyrium s25 700c EBM.
Same as me Mark.
Very informative video Roy. I get my CGR ALe 105 this week, I hope - only a month late, although Ribble were very good and have refunded my £40 delivery charge.
Did you manage to sync the iWoc with the wahoo elemnt bolt or the Garmin edge bike computer?
No, my Garmin doesn’t have that feature, but it would be useful if it did.
Been loving your videos Roy. I'm starting the journey of coming back to cycling and while at the moment I'm using a chaep spin bike with Zwift to build some fitness, I'm looking at getting a road bike and probably an ebikemotion based system. Here in Australia Ribble don't actually sell ebikes so I am looking at a few options including possible the Obea Gain. I remember you mentioning that was an option you looked at. I'm looking at the e assist because firstly I'm not as fit as I once was, but mostly, I want to use the bike to commute the 50km circuit I need to get to work and back in a day without getting there in a mess of sweat. I also would like the option of the assist at times on hills. I was wondering if you every use the Ribble without assistance and how you find that given the extra weight the motor is adding? I'm wondering if I should spend the extra on a carbon frame system that levels the weight a little negating the need for two bikes.
I love the fact that e bikes are opening up the world of cycling to those who feel intimidated by the super fit lycra of the serious cyclists donning their super bikes. I think it was British Cycling that donned the phrase marginal gains. Well with e assist I heard the term its better to be riding a road or track rather than riding a coach.
On another matter, I'm from the UK (Altrincham) and while you cycle a different part of the UK, your videos make me fee homesick. Neverthless, a big thank you, great TH-cam entertainment.
Thank you, Neil, that’s wonderful to hear. When I press that publish button on a video it’s a step into the unknown, so comments like these inspire me. I know a few people with the Orbea Gain and they love it. We also have another local rider using a Willier carbon frame, which looks a lovely bike. There is also Scott to choose from, which subscriber Clair uses. A message to Ebikemotion customer service should get you a list of manufacturers. If I’m riding the CGR with an average rider on a non powered bike I don’t use power. As there is no motor friction it rides very easily and I have no problems. If with a non powered rider who is fast, I can pop the power in if needed. It’s that flexibility I like. As for the frame material, the weight from carbon saving is well worth having, especially if you mainly ride roads. I chose aluminium due to the amount of off road riding I do and concern about damaging the frame. Whatever you decide I’m certain you will love it.
@@RideWithRoy Hi Roy, I ordered an Orbea Gain D30 today. I looked at the M30 but I’m looking at Easter for receipt of the bike. I also tried a D40 at one of our dealerships and was mighty impressed. Perhaps shocked in seeing the weight that is added. The X35 unit is a little bigger than I envisaged. However, amazed at the impact. Thanks for your advice Roy - looking forward to some great riding.
great podcast Roy. I've been looking at Ribble Al e and your made up my mind. The only hesitation I have is on 2 points;
1. I have contacted Ribble several times and with questions and they are far far too slow responding. I hope it isn't the same with after sales.
2. Is the battery removable to re-cell? I don't mean to charge. I have an excellent company near me that re-cells batteries and it would give me pace of mind to know that in 2,3 or 4 years time I have the opportunity to do just that.
Thank you, Keith. I found the pre sales response really slow, and it almost put me off. However, when I had some problems after delivery I was given a contact, Ian, who was absolutely brilliant and got back to me within an hour or so of each message. He also called me to update on progress. When the bike was due for original delivery they didn’t have the carbon seatpost I had ordered. They asked if they could supply with aluminium and then replace when stock arrived. They did and I was able to keep the original one. One other nice touch is that, as I ordered with Marathon tyres, they still supplied the folding original ones as well, which are handy as spares. It’s a shame about the pre sales response time, but my experience of after sales would make me relaxed about ordering. As for the cells, they are 36v 250W Panasonic 18650GA. I have no idea about replacing them without official cells, but that number may help your supplier to tell you. The battery does contain the microprocessor for the Ebikemotion system, so that is a potential area for problems matching up new cells. You may be surprised at how long a battery is going to last. I’ve ridden 3500 miles on the bike and, according to the app, the battery has had 36 full charges. If you charge from half discharged it only counts as a half charge. The battery shouldn’t show any reduction in power until after 500 charges, after which the decline will be gradual. I hope that helps. If you do decide on the Ribble it would help the channel if you use the link tidd.ly/2TPxLdq as Ribble will pay it about £20 and it won’t cost you anything.
Thanks for the review. I've been looking at the Hybrid AL e Trail and I'm on the cusp between L and XL. The sizing changes at 185cm height. I'm 184cm tall. 😆
Not sure which to go for.
The recommendation is usually to go for the smaller size, Oliver. That worked for me. The big problem at the moment, with most manufacturers, is long lead times and broken promises.
If you can make it to a Ribble store, they can assess your size, using a special adjustable bike. I did this, at Bluewater, on Sunday, and now have to just until November for my large Gravel Al-e to arrive
Yes, that’s exactly what I did, Bob. In fact, I travelled the 4 hour round trip to the Birmingham store, which was well worth it. That’s a good lead time they’ve offered. Enjoy the new bike.
@@bobarmour5619 I ordered the hybrid trail. I went based off the sizing on the site. It arrives in September. 👌
I found the bike they recommended from sizing on the rig was the same as I would have chosen from their chart, so the chart in accurate. The only difference was stem length, which was chosen to suit my reach.
I’m a self-employed black gentleman who works in the touristy areas of central London.
In your opinion, is this a good bike for riding one handed with somebody’s phone in your hand? Or mounting the pavement or even popping wheelies at people and scaring them before swerving out of the way? Thanks ❤
@@MadTwatter what has being a self employed black gentleman got to do with your sarcastic question? Looks like you are creating division where there should be none. In my opinion, you should watch my videos and you will see the answer to your questions. But congrats on picking the perfect name for yourself 😀
Did you fix the problem with your bottle cage mounts?
My wife’s very interested in the Ribble CGR E as she struggles on hills due to asthma.
It was a problem that wasn’t what it seemed, Trevor. When I got back I tried a new bolt and it was tight. The only thing I can imagine is that I’d put an undersized bolt in it. Having said that, if I use the range extender now I add a strap to provide extra support for the weight. I am sure your wife will enjoy the freedom and confidence it will give her. They also offer the hybrid with the same system. More upright and straight bars but same weight.
I’m wondering what you think of the new Mahle app? I think it’s truly awful in comparison to the old app. They might get it right eventually. Maps have gone, the mode your in is so small it can hardly be read and not even rotatable from Portrait mode, still eats the battery maybe more than the old ebikemotion app. Love to know your thoughts. Oh and now over 5000 miles on mine in a year
That’s good mileage, Martin. I don’t use the app so can’t comment. I have been asked to review it but I can’t get interested. I manage well enough with the iWoc lights and can always pedal if it goes flat. I have a contact at Mahle who would be interested in your feedback, so if you would like email me at ridingwithroy@gmail.com I will forward your message to them.
@@RideWithRoy I have contacted Mahle direct ref the app. Only response was to say they had received my email and would respond.
That was a month ago! Will try again through you later.
Tks and keep up the good work. Ps bought two of the tyre levers you recommended as I run the Marathon Plus still
Hi these look great bikes, my only question is can the battery be replaced when and if the time comes as it appears to be in the frame. Cheers
Hello, Keith. The battery can be changed and is accessed by a removable cover at the base. They say it’s a dealer job but it looks very much plug and play, so I would do it myself. As partial charges don’t count as a full charge cycle, the life of the battery will be longer than I expected.
I am looking for such a bike so this was really useful. Do you know if Ribble ship internationally (most do but some are a pain)? I would use a Redshift stem as well. Did you consider the seatpost too?
I recommend Gravelkings very much as well as Specialized Pathfinders. If you want really supple though Rene Herse are amazing but expensive. But even on a budget bike these tires make it seem like a much more fancy bike and are worth it if comfort and low rolling resistance are desired.
Yes, Ribble do ship internationally, Charles, but like most other manufacturers at the moment, take their delivery estimate with a generous pinch of salt. Yes, I do use the Redshift seatpost as well and have featured it in another video. If I had to prioritise I would have the seatpost first. I actually swap the seatpost between bikes, but the stem isn’t so easy, so that now lives on my new Titanium gravel bike for the summer. Thanks for the tyre recommendations.
@@RideWithRoy very cool you have a Ti frame gravel bike. Do they really absorb chatter? I am all about comfort riding on gravel. What model is the Ti bike if you don’t mind?
@@charlesblithfield6182 it’s the Planet X Tempest, Charles. I built it myself and made some videos of the process. This is the one showing it completed th-cam.com/video/lD3EojZAT1A/w-d-xo.html. Yes, the ride is supremely comfortable and smooth. Someone termed the ride as ‘buttery’ and I’d go with that. It feels as light as carbon but without the worry 😀
@@RideWithRoy Thank you for the replies. I have a question of a personal nature if you do not mind.
My email is ridingwithroy@gmail.com
Hi Roy . Firstly like to say great videos .
Secondly how quick from standing start do you get up to the 15mile an hour mark and how much effort do you put in .
Thanks, Rashid. I don’t know but it will make a good subject for a test. 👍 I’m on it!
I always paint chips with a completely different colour.
What do you do with the fish? 🥳
Michelin STARGRIP high density protection 37-622
Hi Roy..I’ve had my CGR Al e for a couple of years now but recently noticed the range after charging has diminished. Now 42 miles instead of 50 ish🤔 I have an extender which has proved invaluable on rides over 40 miles. However on a recent ride of 27 miles (without the extender connected)over mixed terrain the battery got down to 11% and maximum output was 120 watts on Turbo! I connected the extender but it didn’t take effect on the main battery until I finished my ride. I guess it was too depleted! Do you think my battery needs replacing?
I would be surprised if it did, Keith. I know you haven't been riding it for a while, so maybe needs a balancing charge. Next time time you charge, leave it connected for an hour or so after full charge is complete. This will balance the battery and may help. It would also be worth checking the app to see how many charge cycles you have completed. I'll bet it is way less than the 500 full cycles life.
@@RideWithRoy thanks Roy, will take that on board and check out your ideas, thanks👍😊
Thanks again Roy..if I have any further questions could I email you instead of going through TH-cam, if you have no objections of course👍👍😊
I feel disappointed that I won't be able to test the bike, which makes me concerned about the order. As I am currently in Germany, I am wondering if there are any Ribble authorized shops in the EU?
I don’t think they are, but best enquire with them. The alternative would be to see if there is an Orbea dealer near you. They are very similar and use the same Mahle system. Also, if you look at the Mahle Smartbike website you will see the other brands that use their system. Since making this video, Ribble have gone down in my estimation due to many reports of broken delivery promises, so might be best to look at the alternatives with local dealers.
@@RideWithRoy Thank you Roy
I've just had a brand new, but second hand Endurance SL .. It's great that Ribble are UK based, but their customer service is beyond useless. I've ended up taking the bike elsewhere (it came with a dead battery having being sat in a box for a year and a half). It needs a new plastic cover under the crank also - I've been waiting 3 days having since first made contact about when they may get stock. I was actually looking at a Gravel bike from them (how I found these videos initially) - but based on their CS I'll be going elsewhere now.
That is so disappointing, especially as I had been reassured things had improved. I do know they monitor ‘Ride with Roy subscriber chat’ on Facebook, so feel free to comment on there as well.
Hi, what tyres do you use? My gravel tyres on my Ribble CGR ALe are getting low on tread on the rear tyre so looking for a good replacement. Currently have the same tyres that came when the bike was first delivered - Halo
I’ve used various but my current favourite is the Schwalbe G1 Allround, which I’m running tubeless. If you are using tubes and want a bullet proof tyre then the Schwalbe Marathon is hard to beat. It really depends on the type of riding you do.
I have an emtb (Batribike Delta Plus) which, although an cx style mtb, I predominantly use for road commuting. I find the 15.5MPH assist restriction really irritating. That said, a mountainbike is a heavy old bike which probably doesn't get above 16MPH all that often. I would imagine that with a faster, lightweight hybrid bike it must be even more irritating?
Interestingly, Matt, the lighter bike gives me the opposite feeling. The power gets me up to speed quickly and then, due to the light weight, I find it easy to keep above it. The fact that there is no friction from a gearbox and the motor is just freewheeling when not providing power, makes it a bike I can happily ride without power. Having said that, an e MTB is going to be great fun in its proper environment.
If you find the 15.5 cut off limit irritating you probably don't need an e-bike in the first place.
Hi Roy thinking of getting the mahle system on a Merida silex , does it cause any drag when switched off thanks
None whatsoever, Peter. It just freewheels like an unpowered bike. The new Mahle app also allows you to fine tune the power setting for each of the three levels. I didn’t think this was necessary but now am a convert. That’s a great choice of bike - enjoy!
Thanks Roy you've made my mind up
I understand that batteries may at some time need replacement - how is this effected when mounted in the down tube?
They say it’s a dealer job, Edward, but it looks quite straightforward as a DIY. There is a plastic cover underneath that reveals the battery. The battery is plug in, so shouldn’t be too hard. However, with 500 full charge cycles before it starts to reduce in performance, I expect it to be sometime before I need to change it.
Hi, I have been longingly watching your videos on the Ribble CGR AL e bike as well as reading all of the experiences of customers who want to buy one but due to various reasons are not able to. Can anyone recommend the closest alternative to this bicycle in terms of the CGR purpose as well as a similar price point that I can look at. I really would love to buy this bicycle but I fear disappointment and frustration will be my experience if I place an order. Thanks.
The Orbea Gain is a similar spec that uses the X35, Russell. There are now a few used bikes with the X35 system coming on to the market but they are often at high prices. Most manufacturers seem to be breaking delivery promises due to lack of parts etc. when you are in a position to buy, I would suggest deciding on the the ideal choice for you, order it then forget about it until delivery. Good luck with whatever you decide.
@@RideWithRoy thanks for the quick response Roy, I looked at the Orbea and it looks like a great bike. Decided to rein my needs in and order one of Ribbles ‘dispatch within 48hrs’ bikes which was a normal Hyrid, spent a few hours mulling over which one and when I went to place the order all of the 48hr dispatch bikes ship in July - huh?? That really did it for me with Ribble so ordered a Trek FX 3 disc 2022 as my starter bike and when the time is right and I can do a order and forget period will order the ebike.
A little late to the party but I'll go ahead and ask anyway. If you have to choose between this and the Triban RC520, which one would it be? TIA.
I would have to choose both, due to them serving differing needs. Both are similar to ride in terms of comfort but the Ribble has the option of power. The RC520 is a superb bike and serves most of my needs, but the Ribble sees me riding on days when I don’t have the energy for the manual Triban.
@@RideWithRoy Spoken like a true cyclist; "Have to have both/all!" 🤣. Love it! If the CGR was a standard model without e motor, would you still choose it over the Triban?
I nearly added that to my first answer but knew you’d ask 😂. The answer is no. Spec for spec the Triban RC520 beats anything on the market. Ribble provide the opportunity to build your own spec, but at a price. I could easily live with the Triban spec and still have money to spare to upgrade if I felt the need. The colour is a bit drab but I can easily live with that.
I'm thinking about picking up a Triban RC500 currently. In Malaysian Ringgitsz they cost £498. Already having a Giant tCR Advanced 2 (2020) is kind of holding me back. Would you say the 500 is as desirable as the 520? Another thing is the wheels. How difficult is it to find aftermarket 700xlc disc brake QR wheels?
It depends what you want. I really wanted Shimano 105 and hydraulic disc brakes, so the 520 was ideal for me. This is my main summer bike at the moment but if I had a Giant TCR I’d probably settle for the 500. With regard to wheels, I found plenty of choice. I damaged one of my wheels so changed them for a pair of Shimano RX010 with QR and centre lock discs for £125 from Probikekit. Nice looking wheels and the new Michelin Protek tyres went on with just thumbs. As I shall commence my new build over winter, the Triban will become my winter bike, so I didn’t want to spend too much on new wheels.
Do you think this frame would fit pirelli cinturato mixed 650b tires in 50mm or is it too much?
I’ve just measured it and looks possible. You would need to check with Ribble to be sure though.
is the shoulder problem coursed by a old accident are just wear and tear are just old age
The latter. Ultrasound showed no injury but X-Ray showed arthritis in the shoulder. It’s had 69 years of constant use so not bad for a bearing😂
@@RideWithRoy I feel the pain in my knee and hands arthritis. accidents dont help and black ice and carrots lol
MapMyRide v Strava
On a ride with a friend, both starting and finishing together and doing the exact same route, we had markedly different readings on our iPhones using two different Apps, Strava and MapMyRide.
with Strava we completed 117.28 kilometres and 1485 metres of climbing
with MapMyRide 113.90 kilometres and 1961 metres of climbing
Why is there such a discrepancy? Which app is the more accurate? Does anyone have the answer to this conundrum?
I’ve found differences using Strava on the same ride with Garmin and phone, Roy. This article explains it well support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001188624-Why-is-my-activity-s-distance-different-than-my-friend-s-
One thing good about bike computers… you know the mileage.
The lack of support from Ribble doesn't exactly inspire confidence but great overall review.
They are good when they eventually take on board an issue, but awful at keeping some customers informed of late deliveries.
Will 5'3 fit for a 50cm(small)?
You would need the xx small or x small. As you are between the two you would need to consider your flexibility. It would be best to speak with a Ribble advisor.
Have you bothered updating software my bike works so dont no if need to. Shop said would cost me 40 pounds
No, I didn’t bother with the update and no issues either. My contact at Mahle said it’s optional. It’s a a few minutes work for the shop with cables supplied by Mahle, so a bit steep at £40
@@RideWithRoy yes i no and they not do as wait so would meen driving there and bk and go bk again so 80 miles just for update with my Merida dealer
Bear in mind that any Mahle dealer can update it for you, regardless of bike brand.
@@RideWithRoy didn't no if needed bike make o ok. Trouble is nothing much in Suffolk in Aldeburgh area no local shop i could ask about tho if could just plug in be good.
Always wanted a ribble sadly between not available or price going up especially on a bike brand thats direct to costumer way too high never less enjoy