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Yes. In CW interrogation he says “I don’t want to protect her…” and I truly think he meant NK and slipped up, then just went with the whole ‘Shannan did it’
Before I even listen to doc, I’m going to say that she may have at the very least had an idea of what Watts was capable of and she did nothing to stop him.
Please ppl don't forget that neighbor who told the police officer on the scene "This is not normal behavior for Chris, pacing back and forth" Big shout out to him forever.
People don't talk about how much his parents trashed his wife on a regular basis either. They practically said she deserved what she got because she wasn't a good wife or mother. They were AWFUL!!!
@randallsimpson3747 Nothing excuses what he did. It doesn't matter if you don't like someone, this isn't just getting a divorce and being called an a hole for leaving after having kids. Normally, you can have a stressful relationship where everyone is to blame WITHOUT offing your entire family. Let's not forget, the kids didn't get attacked because their mom was "overbearing."
I watched the interviews with his parents, and the way they spoke about Shannan was beyond belief. Utterly disgraceful. They as parents deserve this monster for a son.
@@RandallBalls no matter how awful a person is, they do not deserve to be brutally murdered as Shannan was. that is literally written in the overruling documents for most countries, such as the declaration of independence, the declaration of the rights of man and the citizen, etc; "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person." You stating that Shannen caused her own death by acting a certain way is paramount to saying "you wouldn't have been raped if you weren't acting flirty" to a sexual assault survivor. It was CHRIS' own decision to end her life, which is one that is ENTIRELY his fault, and nobody else's.
I love that Chris thought he was gonna get away with it, at least for a little while, and Nicole just rolled in and solved the case a couple hours after the murders. She’s a good friend.
Maybe,She and Shannan Talked About How She Felt about her killer…She Knows She’s in Danger…thats why Nicole came that day Shannan Didn’t Reply on Her Call.
No doubt. She definitely goosed the investigation before CW had any time to clean up and prepare. He still would have gotten caught. GPS from his work truck and all that. I believe he would have made the same bad decisions after the murders. He’ll never get out. He’s right where he deserves to be.
@@joannemurdock7899 Except the workers don't go walking around the fields, they're working, they do their job and move on. Shannan's body may not have been found for a very very long time and the girls may never have been found, unless their little bodies caused some blockage of the oil tank workings.
Swoop I was groomed by my brother in law and he used to say, "You can't tell your sister you wouldn't want to ruin our marriage right? She wouldn't understand" I was 18 he was in his 30's. I finally spoke out and told my aunt. Turns out he was a sex offender of young girls. My aunt told the family, and my sister divorced him. You're totally right, I had the power all along. It took me about 7 years to speak out, but I'm glad I did.
Hey, your comment really spoke to me. I was SA'd by my father as a child, and it took me over thirty years before I could speak up. In that time he had SA'd my uncle and three of my nieces, that we are aware of. It took me a very long time to realise that, yes, I had the power all along. It's only the silence that holds the power, not the abuser like most people think. He's in prison now and has been for the past five years. Thank you for posting your comment, I'm sure lots of people can relate. I'm glad you were able to speak up and free yourself from this vile man. I wish you so much happiness ❤
Also, Nicole (Shananns friend) is THE REALEST FRIEND ANYONE COULD EVER HAVE. Like bless her for being a true friend and not just shrugging it off. She had a feeling and she did not let it go and thank god for her.
One hundred percent! As stupid as his plan to just skip town seems, he might have had time to pull it off had it not been for Nicole (the friend). I have no doubt this will haunt her for the rest of her life but I hope she knows that without her, Shinann and the kids may never have gotten justice.
THIS. ALL OF THIS!! ⬆️ Nicole is 110% a hero here. She knew in her heart something was not ok & she refused to let anyone brush it off. We all need to be blessed with a friend like her.♥️
@@dragorn3212I know u might have been saying this with good intentions but I really don’t think that the person you are replying to was excusing the murder or making it out to be any less horrifying. Just saying that they hope they are in a better place after enduring such suffering. I hope so too.
Murder is wrong even if the child goes to heaven. You're assuming murder is fine as long as the victim goes to a better place, that's the "ends justifying the means" and no, it's not okay. Hell exists for people unrepentant murderers.@@dragorn3212
South African here - we had a case in 2013 where a well known paralympian shot his girlfriend, unaliving her through a bathroom door claiming he thought it was an intruder. I would never forget the day my mum on the phone, with me crying about my abusive ex, 3 in the morning being kicked out of the house, her words that morning NEVER left me “I don’t want you to be another Reeva” - Reeva being the girlfriend. A few weeks later my ex strangled me with a bunch of his friends witnessing and not stopping. That day I had realised I could have died. I could have been another Reeva. But I’m not. And I will NOT be. So I left. Edit: this is the most wholesome community on TH-cam. For all the people out there, having a similar story to mine, please read the comments below that strangers had left in support. Remember there is always a support system, even if you don’t feel like it now. There’s always someone that will listen to you ❤️ YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
It always sends chills up my spine when I see Nicole drop Shanann off, then wait at the end of driveway to make sure she makes it safely in the house…just knowing it was in the house where she wasn’t safe.
Tennessee Misty 🌻• I know😢. It's eerie and sad. The simple act of a girlfriend making sure her friend makes it into her home safe in the middle of the night. Neither of them knowing what waited for Shannan on the other side of that door. I always wonder, when I see that ring video footage...if there was any small sense...gut feeling or kind of off/ bad vibe at all that Shannan felt while putting her key in the door. Even if she had felt something, she would have shaken it off, after all, her husband and children were inside.😢
Unfortunately we can't assume that everyone is going to be unsafe when they walk in their own home that's what makes this so sad... This is the place she should have been safe and comfortable and she was ripped from this world with those beautiful children. He just cals them everyone and those girls he didn't love them he didn't love Nicole and I think she definitely knew something if she didn't have a hand in it he definitely discussed what he was going to do.
Just wanna remind people: It can also be a weapon. I was strangled 3 times by my vulnerable narcissist ex. I was constantly giving him more chances because I understood his trauma well. I've never met an abuser that doesn't have some tragic backstory though. There is no excuse for abuse.
This case absolutely consumed me when it happened. I can't say how many times I've defended Shanann online, the amount of victim blaming is disgusting. He's the one who deserves to be scrutinised after what he did to his daughters and pregnant wife and especially how he disposed of them.
omg SAME, I have literally gone round and round with those nut jobs. The absolute vitriol people spew towards INNOCENT victims is insane. I don’t care what she spent money on or how much, for some people to try and use it as some sort of justification is beyond belief.
I’ve been watching since maybe a year after it happened and I’ve seen the same thing. My own mother has started spewing this anti-shannan bullsh** and I always have to re-explain what victim blaming is 🤦♀️
@@PsychoKat90 Yes! Agreed. Even if you do think Shannan was a bad wife, that is not punishable by death! She didn't deserve to die and most certainly those little girls were 100% innocent.
And let me just say that mistress is nothing to write home about. I could see if she was stunning and his wife was homeless, but geez it was the other way around. What a nut job
His mistress was at most a very average person with a grating, irritating and domineering personality. It's very odd that CW would commit murder of his own children and pregnant wife for this secondary person/mistress.
@@moirapettifr7127well, Chris was probably not getting intimate with Shann’ann because she was (high risk) pregnant and chronically ill, and sex might’ve been the only way Chris felt connected to her. So, without that connection, Chris probably started to dislike her and as he said, thought a baby would fix things. But he was already too far gone, and at that point- he now had to explain to his mistress why his wife was newly pregnant even though they were going to divorce? Of course at times he acted like the baby might not be his. Yet, Shann’ann loved Chris and was trying to make it work. Instead? He tossed the sled help book and kept screwing his mistress until the mistress was tired of being #2. And now that’s all she will ever be, poop.
What makes me so upset about this case is how hateful everyone is to Shannan. I hate the excuse that she wouldn’t have been murdered if she wasn’t a “bitch”, or that she “drove him crazy”. The misogyny that bubbles up from his case astonished me.
I really hate that too. I have my own theory about why some people do that. To me, it seems like Shannan was a really awesome person. Some people may be jealous of her but that's not the whole picture. You see, with the way things happened, it could really happen to anyone. They are saying things like she was bossy, she was a bad mother and she spent too much to make it seem that caused her own demise. They can feel superior, and since they think that they don't have those attributes, it gives them a false sense of safety making them think that it couldn't happen to them. Then again, some people are just plain nasty. So that explains it.
Right?! There’s literally a comment a little further up in which a woman basically said Shannan deserved what she got, because she was supposedly such a terrible person. The misogyny seriously blows my mind. A woman can be brutally, murdered alongside her children, somehow it’s still sort of her fault. Wtf.
Those people that are so disrespectful to Shannon tells me they are evil, no compassion, monsters , just to listen to his lies at the interview makes me sick. We know our husbands very well, she knew something was going on, of course we are going to start bitching. God have mercy on them!
She would be here today if NK stood out of CW's pants. Her parents must be so proud of her (sic). Shanann wasnt a bitch...she was a determined, driven mother and wife working to help support her family. NK lied to police. It sickens me, they let it go
Yeah, and also that justification falls flat when you take into consideration that he also killed the kids. What right did he have to do that? Was that also the wife’s fault? These people are full of shit and trust me. They will live a miserable rest of their lives, realizing this.
Yes, it's completely different! It's so clear that Nicole is a piece of s*** and had something to do with it I cannot believe that she's walking free. I hope she pays for this the rest of her life in whatever capacity she was involved.
Yes! Like, I live in the area she used to love in and if I ever run into her, I'm thanking her for all she did to help catch Scott. She took his calls and stayed calm and got him to talk.
“Because I got so sick, I let him in”. That makes me so sad. Because she was so vulnerable, she settled for the first person to show her basic humanity.
@@Sherry-qi2ju totally agree. The mistress had no business getting it on with a married man. But the comment above from Panda referred actually to something that Shannan said about when she met Chris. She had been struggling with health issues and he was kind to her so she went and married him, not knowing what a monster he would turn out to be/become.
No. Shannan used men then discarded them. Like her first husband, she used him, had him buy a house they couldnt afford and put it in his name (just like she did with chris) then cheated on him in his bed and he found out. His credit was ruined for life btw and hes not sad shes dead. Shannan was a straight up NPD@@godpilled9077
She let him stay? It was his house, that she forced him to put on his credit. She had no say in it and no income on her own, her MLM was hemorrhaging money. She was costing him 3K a week just in buying that resell crap. Obviously he should have just left her or ran off with the mistress, nobody deserves to be murdered, but lets not paint her as some angel that "gave him everything". All she really did was take. She did the same thing to her first 2 husbands, had them put homes in their names, then once they couldnt afford the luxury homes she demanded... left them with the debt. @@nasirb3914
YO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP!!! I’m an OBGYN intern and one thing that is emphasized in our education is to screen for IPV at every single appointment, especially for OB visits. Identifying pregnant victims of abuse saves more lives as healthcare providers than almost any other intervention. Unrelated but it’s also important in kids with special needs to have a super high index of suspicion for abuse. It makes me physically ill that some of our most vulnerable populations are also at the highest risk for this type of abuse/harm.
The fact that her friend went 0-100 when she was missing tells me the friend already had something to be worried about when it came to Chris. I wonder what she knew about the marriage and what Chris did in private.
Anna Victrix• I truly believe that it was bc over the weekend, SW had been talking to her about how she and CW had been having issues all summer, how he didn't want the baby, but she had ordered him a book about working on their marriage & he'd promised to read it & try to make it work with her.....and on the plane ride home, or at dinner b4 the got on the plane to leave, Shannan got that text alert from the bank notification that CW had that unusually high bill from (the name escapes me atm). She called him to ask him what he ordered & he said salmon & 🍺 beer. She then looked up the menu online and saw that tge math did not add up. Not unless he paid for another person's meal. She was suspicious. A woman knows deep down when something like this happens. But we still may have to talk it thru with a friend to see if we're crazy or in denial or just to get another viewpoint. I believe Shannan talked to NA about this restaurant tab. I believe she planned to talk to CW the next day...since she was getting in so late. NA knew Shannan had an ob appointment in the morning and dropped her off, telling her to call her if she needed her to go along to help with the girls. That's why she was on her mind that morning, first thing. Shannan hadn't called her, so Nicole called her to check on how she was doing. We know the rest from there. She knew damn well Shannan had not told her anything about the girls having a play date that morning. Especially when she went or the house & could see SW's car with both car seats in it. Idk if Shannan ever made it upstairs that night or I'd she was attacked as soon as he walked inside the house. If she did go upstairs, she may have not meant to bring up the restaurant tab then but her blood may have been boiling & she may not have been able to help herself. Did CW admit then, that there was someone else? We will never know. I probably will always have questions about how everything played out. I do know that without NA being the friend she was and her quick actions that morning, who knows what CW and NK may have gotten accomplished.. .
@jennizel it happened in bed. Her makeup was smeared on the bottom sheet where he held her face down. He lied about her eyes filling with blood. There was no ptechial hemmoraging and her hyiod bone was intact...
@@RachelleLove81 do you mind sharing where learned that? She was wrapped in the sheet when he transported her. I saw some info on the autopsies, but not about that being disproved
Some thing that stood out for me in the interviews with Nicky is that she referred to “ the plan” multiple times when describing her and Chris’ relationship. That slip raised yet another red flag with me, along with her very disturbing Google history. It’s shocking that she was not investigated further.
I agree & I can't forgive LE for not charging her. Even the way they interview her is sickening. It's all giggles & minimising. Four people were murdered!!!
Police and DAs care only for the slam dunk case any amateur PI could make. If they need to stay another night up to analyze evidence or just go to a judge to get a warrant for the phones of the accomplices, then no, that's too much work. We've got our principal suspect, who gives a fruck about justice!
@@susanbajjada2960 Agree 🌷 That muppet-voiced investigator is full-on flirting with her. It's reprehensible in any situation, unforgivable in this one.
I was in that situation with my ex husband. He went from being very loving to suddenly extremely distant, not even touching me. It was horrible. Of course he was having an affair which I knew nothing about at first. The sudden rejection is very very painful. We are now divorced.
I was in a 14yr abusive relationship. I thought i would never leave...i loved him so much and couldn't imagine my life without him. But i ended it almost 2 yrs ago and am now the happiest i have ever been. Its possible i promise ❤
Poor Shanann went through so much , a divorce , then she became very ill .Then she met him , she was so vulnerable … It makes me so ill when I hear « he is the best thing that happened to me « …..
Her friend knew and jumped to the idea he did something because of all the conversations they had about how she felt he was acting cold didn't want nico and she knew there was signs
They had just been on a trip together so I'm sure they spoke about their lives...I'm not sure that the friends mind went straight the husband but it was clear something was wrong when she didn't hear from her and then clearer when she showed up at her house and then crystal clear when she's lied to by Chris...I can not imagine the what ifs her that played through the friends head
@@eliserenée6248 lots of parallels to Alexis Sharkey and how she told her friends the truth about her marriage on a MLM trip that made them freak out immediately when she went out of communication and then point fingers at her asshole husband when she was found
NA was best friends with Sandy... Weird that NA moved to Colorado... I think MA jumping the gun is weird... a little 2 over bearing IMO. I think she knows way more... not that she was involved but she knows more. Also, when Shannan died and gave birth in her death state, why isn't there Amy blood?!?! That's a huge question in the discovery?!?!? Where is the blood....
I love how at 26:13 the neighbor with the video camera kept emphasizing “I would’ve caught anything coming in and out of the driveway” several times to passively let CW know that he got em.
I’m so glad you brought up how being strangled by a partner makes you a much higher risk of being unalived by that person. It’s so true and so deadly! Also, the more it happens the more likely you are to have subsequent injury.
I will say it until my last days, the mistress not only KNEW what he did, I fully believe she helped plan the deaths of his family. Her search inquiries and weird ass behavior in the interrogation rooms solidified it for me. I will never understand why she was never even considered a serious suspect.
The part that gets me is when Shannan is walking to her house and the good nicole literally sits in her car waiting till she literally entered the house and closed the door. She was the realest this whole time and we need friends like her
That's how you can tell Shan'ann really cared about people. She has real friends unlike Chris who can't care about anyone but himself and his own base needs.
@@Nathan-j2p that’s true being smarter than him and being brave works. I had 3 small children and no job. It was 2 days before Christmas I chose a safe house for abused women. I didn’t like it got me or my kids but I stayed They gave my kids Christ and I healed It took a long time physically heal. I was petrified. After a few myths they helped me find a job and small place. It was very hard. And scary. I would be dead today if I hadn’t found the courage to go. Have faith I. Yourself. ❤️👍🏻🙏🏼
He replied to his coworkers group email to join Fantasy Football after his family went missing and the news crews were crawling all over his yard. He's a special kind of demented.
The fact that "Darling Nikki" tried to make it all about her in the interrogation is so frustrating. She shows no remorse, no emotions towards the whole situation. When she said, "It's unfair to me that he lied to me the whole time," doesn't sit right with me. It was all an act. If she did have anything to do with it, I hope justice is seved. The truth will always come out.
I think my favorite part in this whole thing of him getting caught was when he went to his neighbors house with the police. The guilt radiating off him was palpable.
girl you summed it up I watched my horribly abusive "stepdad" strangle my mother to near death. that's when she finally had enough, pressed charges, and left him. I still remember those bruises. a few years later, he killed a man. don't ignore warning signs, stay safe out there. Edit: kinda forgot about this, and seeing the conversations had has been...a mixed bag of emotions. it's important to get rid of the stigma and victim blaming that comes into play in domestic violence. my mom was on a lot of very strong bipolar and depression medicine during these years and she was like a walking zombie. never EVER would she let someone treat her like that otherwise. she was vulnerable, and that's when these types of people attach themselves to their victims. obviously some people have very little class but some of the worst have been deleted. I also want to apologize for some of my later comments- that particular person struck a cord with me and I threw a lot of my character out of the window in defensiveness. I have a lot to work on, and I'm trying to be a kinder, less abrasive person. two wrongs don't make a right, and while what that person said was vile and cruel, I could have responded more gently and with more maturity. important conversations will never be successful in a hostile environment, and I would like to lead by example with that.
@@darlenebertocci4631 imagine being such an A hole that you 1) inaccurately question someone's trauma- your intention is not lost on me, you came here on the offensive- even if it was typed wrong, most people would just assume I made a mistake, which is something you of ALL people should understand, and 2) respond SO defensively when you're called out on it; because you know you were wrong but it would just hurt your precious ego too much to apologize and own up to it. your first comment was rude to begin with- I give what I get. imagine being THIS RUDE to someone underneath the comment I made. get your head out of your own butt for a second and think about someone other than yourself. oh, no, you're offended? you seem to have no problem being offensive; if you can't take it, don't dish it- you don't care about MY feelings, so I don't care about yours. I'm far from perfect, but at least I'm closer than you. also, through* how are you gonna insult someone who corrected your reading mistake and then make a spelling mistake at the same time? might i suggest an intensive reading course?
One of the saddest things is she just thought he didn’t love her anymore….not only did he not love her HE KILLED HER in her last moments…I can’t imagine
My ex choked me against a wall and I knew that was when I needed to get out. If I had stayed I would have potentially been the subject of one of your docs. Thank you for mentioning this in your videos, every woman needs to know this.
I'm so so so so very sorry for what you have had to survive. Thank you for feeling comfortable enough to share part of your story with us. I wish you nothing but peace and healing
With how quickly Hero Nicole called her doctor to find out of she went to her appointment & then immediately reported her missing tells me she probably IMMEDIATELY knew he had done something 💔
@@unknownunknown2576 Nope. That is NOT okay.. Shanann wanted to go home. If Nicole had KNOWN what Chris was going to then (and ONLY then) would you have ANY grounds to say something like "she dropped her off to her death"... Having a bad feeling or not liking him wouldn't give her the right to keep Shanann from going home. That would be kidnapping... which is a FELONY. Shanann's family and friends were also victims here. What we're NOT going to do is victim blame... in any capacity.
@unknown unknown Nobody imagined Chris would hurt her and his daughter's. At the same time NA had known about Chris making SW feel as if he was pulling away and she also knew SW wouldn't miss her doctor's appointment she specifically scheduled because she hadn't been feeling well and thought something was wrong with the babycand Chris didn't know about SW scheduling this appointment because he wasn't communicating with SW since the 6 weeks she spent visiting family out of state and then immediately went on her buisness trip with NA so NA was with SW when she scheduled the OB/GYN appointment randomly. We now know the reason SW wasn't feeling well is because CW had given her narcotics in an attempt to cause her to have a miscarriage. In reality the wheels were set in motion that led to him getting caught the moment he poisoned SW because had she not been feeling well, she wouldn't have scheduled the appointment he wasn't aware of which caused NA to call LEO when she knew SW had missed her appointment.
I think one of the biggest reasons why this case stuck with everyone soo much was because we all felt there was a lot more to it. There is something our guts won’t let go of, telling us there is more to the story.
Your spot on comment this gous years before the murders this missteps know shanna she work in the same hospital and she met her at Works party god this in 2016 that Chris sayed to shanna this my work mate !?????? Ummm she google her ??? Hers before That RELLY very creepy and scary FACT !!!! Not fiction there the prove there and she walking free baffles me 🤷♀️
Absolutely. Like how the neighbors say he would “go crazy.” Or the bff’s immediate distress when she went missing for a few hours; she called the cops despite Chris’s reassurances, so she had zero trust in him. The fact that he strangled and smothered them all, when strangling is usually an end stage escalation, not a first assault. There’s so many signs that there could have been a long history of abuse. IMO I believe he was an undercover narcissist, ie a narcissistic abuser adept at hiding the abuse because appearances mean everything to them. I believe that’s why he didn’t go for divorce: ironically, IMO he didn’t want to look like a bad guy for leaving two babies and a pregnant wife for another woman; it was better if he seemed like the poor victim because they all just “disappeared.”
People who blame Shannan can do one. You could be the biggest jerk that ever walked and not deserve what happened to her and her children. I don’t know what scares me most that men like Chris Watts exist, or the frightening numbers of people who make excuses for him.
And their side piece acting all surprised when the husband/wife wipes out their family so they can live happily ever after. If he did it to his wife what's makes her think he wouldn't do it to her after all the cuteness and passion wears off and reality sets in. SOChris and side piece.
She worked for an MLM and tried to portray this perfect life on social media which for anyone who knows a little about MLM huns is usually all bullshit. Does that mean she should of been killed? Absolutely not. Do I wish they would of gave Chris Watts the death penalty for killing not only his wife but 2 daughters and unborn son? 100%.
Agree she is so fake in that interview. Her giggling is disgusting. I don’t care whether he said he was getting a divorce. Ppl lie .. every single person knows this. Don’t date married ppl.
When my drunk ex finally put his hand around my neck a few months back, Swoop’s voice telling me that statistic rang in my head and I decided in that moment I was walking away for good. Called the cops and haven’t looked back - Love ya lady, thanks for what you do ❤
Can relate. Glad you got out and glad I got out too. Anyone who's been through this deserves better. I'm sorry you had to experience that. Proud of you for leaving❤
@@aisle_of_view I actually hadn’t heard that before reading that in the comment section of this video, but that explains why a grown ass woman had her daddy sitting in the whole time. So sus.
The way she talks about & demeans their marriage by stating it was “contractual” is INFURIATING. She knew & I think was involved in the murders. Her behavior is bizarre at best- if I was dating a man that killed his whole family I would be PETRIFIED.
I know it's been said a lot, but I just want to reiterate that Nicole is the kind of friend we should ALL try to be. We need more people like her in the world.
On a normal day, she would've been annoying as hell, especially if Shannan had just overslept because she had a late arrival time. But in this situation, she nailed it
She loves the attention from this innocodent what do you mean! She's done so many interviews and shows and shorts, of she really cared she wouldn't act like this lol
@@Dks_Bh8Maybe that helps her cope with having her best friend and her two tiny daughters murdered. There's no reason to talk down on her. If it wasn't for her, Nicole and her babies may not have gotten any justice (although He is a giant dumbass and liar so he probably would have been caught anyway)
And she knew Shenann was pregnant & still “married” to Chris. Not separated. Why google will he leave her if they’re already in that process? She also saw Shenanns FB posts.
Thank you for talking about this. My abuser (who also groomed me as a minor) convinced me I would go to jail if I told anyone about the physical and sexual abuse. The scariest thing I ever did was get up from the ground in the middle of the woods behind our house (he thought he killed me and dragged me into the woods to hide my body) and walk to a neighbors house to call for help. I was terrified and started crying to the officer about how I know I was going to jail but could I at least make sure my kids have somewhere safe to go first..to which he looked at me like I was insane and said “ma’am you could have hit him with your car and it still wouldn’t justify what he did to you. Nothing that happened here is your fault. You’re safe I promise” and I was in so much shock I almost passed out. It’s so important for us to talk about these experiences so other people in this position know it’s not normal and there is a way out. They don’t love you, they are lying to you, and there are ways to get away so you never have to worry about being hit again. I promise ❤
I am so glad you are safe now. I hope the vile piece of trash that did that to you gets every bit of karma from what he did to you. I hope he is sitting in a jail cell wasting away. Wanting to end it all but is prevented from doing so, while he is under threat from the other prisoners that hate woman beaters. I hope you are finally living a happy and blissful life. Surrounded by people that only have good intentions for you and that love you dearly. I hope you are doing whatever you want to do, living peacefully and happily. ☮️ & 💜
I agree and am sorry that you went through that. Unfortunately when we speak of what we’ve been through then we get called liars or that we’re making stuff up. It’s sad! Good for you for telling your story!
The knowledge of what he did to those babies’ bodies and the condition they were found in haunts me to this day. If anyone has ever discovered a body, the skin slippage stage is horrifying and I thought I’d itch myself out of my skin for several days after finding a friend deceased. I can’t imagine finding children in this condition.
Oh I’m so sorry. I found my mom this way. It took me many years of therapy to calm the PTSD. This man is evil. There is no excuse for killing and especially when it’s your child(ren). Unfathomable to me.
I'm sorry you went through that. I perform autopsies and know what you're talking about, but it hits different when it's a friend. I hope you're doing okay
She literally says in the email on June 12th: “I want to build a beautiful life like you have with your wife and two little girls.” She knew he had a wife. She put it in writing. Guess the police didn’t care that she lied?
This case always makes me so said because those babies really weren’t old enough to know what was happening, all they could know was that they were in pain and their dad, someone they should trust, standing in front of them
The saddest part was that Bella was old enough to know what was happening😢. She saw her mother's dead body, she sat in the truck while he killed her sister, and she begged for her life😢. That really is the worst part. He didn't have to put her through all of that. He truly is a monster
A couple people have made similar comments but I also want to thank you for making a point about strangulation. I wish I would have asked for help when I was in a similar situation. My ex would put a pillow over my face and in the fog of the abuse I couldn’t see how close he was to k*lling me. Any young women watching this doc- you ARE strong enough to leave. Everything will be okay. Take the leap and leave. I wish more than anything I would have left sooner because the abuse got worse, im very lucky to be alive today
I was also in vilonte relationships wear strangled tied up beaten called fat an ugly when I’m skinny and blonde they just wanted to put me down but I’ve come out the other end wear Shannon did not 😢x
@@christinawhite3279 I realise that it's very important to abusive men that the woman is seen as ugly and in bad shape. I've been through this a few times. The men that do this will typically be men with severe pathological lying habits. Cruelty, inconsideration, selfishness, willing to do really bad things for sex and money as well. I hope there is a very special place in Hell for people that make a mockery if someone for what they look like. Looks are no reason for war and hatred.
In my early twenties an ex boyfriend attacked and strangled me- close to blackout I fought harder than I thought possible and got away, today many years removed I still have random flashbacks.
I'm so glad you humanize the victim(s) and don't just focus on the killer. So many focus so hard on the killer but leave the victim as a footnote. It's comforting to see someone who doesn't. Also, thank you for the talk about abuse. I recently escaped an abusive ex/friend, and I'm recovering slowly. I hope you are as well.
As a mother, and someone who was abused and strangled, there are not words bad enough to describe what this man has done. Swoop, i cant explain how your words get to me. You always make me feel seen and validated even though you don't really know me. Thank you for spreading awareness and educating us all on these topics, because if theres one thing i want to do is teach and protect others so they dont have to go through what so many of us have. Please keep doing what youre doing, and from the bottom of my heart, thank you. I wish i could share my whole story with you.
Agree. I escaped the IBLP/Fundie cult (duggar thing). I refused to watch anything about it but was advised by the 1 other person who escaped to watch SWOOP. I am so glad I did. She is kind & warns any of us who may be triggered. TY SWOOP for your hard work and considerate approach to difficult issues.
Yes, I think his girlfriend was involved. She was way too unconcerned that her married boyfriend killed his own children. She gave off really creepy psycho vibes. I've never understood why they didn't dig deeper into her possible involvement.
She was not shocked one bit which means she knew he was planning on killing his family. When someone has had to adjust to a situation, they no longer react to it with shock and bewilderment. Nicki did not express those type of emotions. She was concerned with herself.
That is totally untrue. Don't start shit that's not true. She was mortified. She said what the hell did he think he could just get rid of his family that way and then get together with me?. Well that wasn't gonna happen. And she was not picked up to get questioned. She voluntarily went there to give any info she knew. He lied to her also. He told her they were sperated and going threw divorce proceedings,- the only thing she is guilty of is having crappy taste in men!!!! Do u really in a millionvyrs think she wanted her life ruined over him???? Come on now. Really think about that question for a minute!!
@@darlenebertocci4631Finally, someone with a brain. She had nothing to do with those murders People are so stupid. Oh they investigated, but I still think she had something to do with it. People are so naive. People are so idiotically stupid. I said it again. They would never let her get away with that if she had any involvement whatsoever. She was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Personally I couldn't stand her myself but I'm not going to accuse someone of murder when they they weren't involved.
@Pro-LifePro-Women would u want the world to know u got lied to and were a fool and screwing a married man that did something to his family??? Lol lol I don't know anyone that wouldn't try to make them selves distant and not to have been such an idiot. I think thats a total normal thing to do when uve been doing something ur not so proud of
Just when you think CW couldn’t sink any lower, he does. This case will always stick with me. It was the case that made me interested in true crime. RIP Shannan, Bella, CeCe, and Niko 😢 you are missed and will never be forgotten ❤
@@marakahloh I don’t deny that NK had anything to do with it. I agree with you. She’s not innocent. Allegedly her father had connections in law enforcement, which could be why he was present in the room with her while she was being questioned. 👀
NK was/is demonic. I blame her more than him. He was way too stupid to come up with this elaborate plan. I’m so glad her friend ruined their plan. I’m guessing they intended to blow up the tanks with the babies. That’s why he didn’t care about leavin behind the sheet etc.
The kids were constantly all over the internet. Shannon did one of those family blogs in conjunction with selling her health products from home. It portrayed the family as happy and perfect, which was of course far from the truth. Watts went along with the charade, even staging the pregnancy reveal which he already knew about and both knew he was not happy with. Poor Shannan was so hopeful the marriage could be salvaged. She and her beautiful children would die because a vile psychopath decided they were inconvenient.
When I was in college in my early 20’s this young man - showed me romantic interest- I too became interested in him as well. Shortly, I learned he had a wife a few kids and a newborn at home. I avoided him like the plague. One day he approached me and asked me out - I told him. You have a wife and kids at home. Go take care of her. Time passed and one day he approached me and said he respected me a lot - I asked, how so? Because I can see you like me as much as I like you but you respect I’m married. I listened and said bye and kept walking. “ these women that infiltrate marriages only think about themselves. The suffering of the wife and kids is something that never enters their minds. This Nicole sounds scary 🫣 and detached from the fact that this man just killed his two babies and wife. She still thinking of him as ‘cute’. Monster! I think she lied about everything and she knew a lot more than she led on.
What's so interesting is that everything in this case happened so fast. The plan fell apart immediately, the confession not far behind. The arrest, legal proceedings, sentencing, all over and done with by the end of the year.
So so so fast! I really commend Nikole Atkinson for her persistence in getting police out there, and the detectives for their critical work in the interrogations.
@@ShowWithNoName Agree, while the friend got the ball rolling and was awesome, I feel like the neighbor with all the security video evidence and him telling police that Chris wasn't acting right, etc. He should get the same amount of cred.
No one will ever convince me that the mistress was not in on it and if not, the one that pushed him to do it. She has lied about everything including her saying that she didn’t know if they were going to get a divorce. She didn’t know….but then she’s googling “how to marry ur MISTRESS” not “how to marry after a divorce” or “how long after divorce can u remarry” no HOW TO MARRY UR MISTRESS!!!!!! It is maddening that they did not put her in jail!!!!! 😡
Exactly, she claimed she never met them yet has Google results and pictures from a party long before they worked together. She saw an easy target and went for it. How come no one has seen or heard from her since? Like she never existed.
No evidence that she was involved but they should have put her in jail anyways? Yet, so many of y'all have a fit if someone is arrested without evidence. Make it make sense.
I struggled a long time with calling what my ex did was strangulation because I could still breathe. Didn't matter. His hands were on my throat. The violence escalated. I am so fortunate I got out. Now I help others leave. This case guts me every time I hear about it
I don't see how Chris thought he could get away with their murders because he made it pretty obvious that he was guilty when he dumped their bodies at his workplace.
The dude legit has 10 IQ. If you look up “dumb jock who peaked in high school” you’ll find his picture. All the obvious incriminating google searches. These may be the two dumbest people. They met, rubbed two brain cells together and came up with this plan. I can’t believe they let her get off so easily when she was so clearly part of it too (Nikki I mean)
I just wanna add,as a person who walked away from my “old” life with nothing, lost it all. Had nothing but a dog and a bag. 8 years later, I built a house, married, had my son , acquired the farm I always wanted. Just leave, divorce like you said Swoop. If you unalive someone, your like is over. Let’s make better choices, love each other. No nothing is worth taking a life. Walk away, children have the right to live, even if it’s without you. Thank God for the friend, for the neighbor with the video.
Some people (like Chris Watts) are selfish beyond belief. He wanted a clean slate. He got rid of his entire family because they were in the way. His thought process isn't normal.
You talking about how serious being strangled is has really helped me, I've always felt bad for unfriending my friend who was struggling with mental health issues but she stranged me. One day in class she just walked up to me and put her hands around my throat, I panicked, pushed her away and yelled at her and she was upset with me for the next couple of days
That doorbell footage is sad because you can see her best friend parked in the street making sure she saw Shanann get safe inside her home. But it wasn’t safe.
Thank you Swoop. It means so much that you bring the issue of strangulation to light as not always being fatal but can be a warning. This is very important for people in domestic partnerships to understand. You coverage of Gabby Petitio was second to none. An Influencer Alexis Sharkey was said to have a history of strangulation by her partner and later he wound up taking her life. Thank you for your interest in not only getting these stories out here but thank you for explaining harmful patterns in a way that can at least let people know it's a warning sign of potential danger. It helps those of us who try to be there for our friends in these situations as well.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, and for listening/watching. I agree fully with you, and hope more people who are at risk can learn what a danger it can be, and they are not "overreacting"
@@tutttutt9558 oh no 😢 I have a student I am trying to help this way as I can see the marks and his neck, and his partner sits outside of class waiting for him. I think maybe because of his gender he feels no one will take him seriously either. I'm sorry to hear about your friend as it can't be easy knowing what you know and have observed. I hope she get a glimpse of this video or a glimpse of the danger your friend may be in. She's very lucky to have you. Thanks for sharing with me. I don't feel as alone trying to help knowing others feel like this.
@@PettyUniversity thanks so much Swoop. Overreacting was a word my student used and believe because he is male no one will care of the situation he is in to boot, not as much focus on this type of abuse is focused on enough.
What breaks my heart more so about this case is knowing Shannan spent the last weeks of her life feeling unloved. I know how bad it hurts when you feel like you’re losing someone who means the world to you. It’s one of the worst feelings in the world. The tragedy of this case has so many levels to it. It’s absolutely horrific. Ps- I don’t know how p.o.s. Chris still feels no remorse for taking his children’s lives. Of course he should feel remorse for Shannan as well, but his kids were HIS KIDS. He created those two beautiful little girls. They were his, and he was their world. They loved that monster so much. How can you feel nothing for them? How? HOW?!? If that man can disregard his own children like that, he can disregard anyone, and he’s not a threat? Give me a f*ckin’ break.
Because he felt like shannan was so bossy and dominant to where he snapped and associated them with her instead of using common sense and understanding they’re his too
@@cerealrakist7360 your comment reads as if you are trying to say that you somehow know this monsters own thoughts and feelings, and are speaking on his behalf. He didn't "snap, it was premeditated and he admits this himself, and even if he did "feel that Shanann was so bossy and dominant" like you claim, that doesn't for a second explain or justify his decision to murder his own children! The guy is just another typical example of a cowardly family annihilator and normal people will never truly be able to understand the sick and twisted reasoning behind their heinous crimes.
tih0121. Yes exactly, I think the reason LE moved so fast to get him “off the street” was because if you can do what he did to the closest people to you & innocent children at that, youare capable of absolutely anything & no one is safe. CW is a monster & that sleaze bag mistress was definitely involved, at the very least, she knew it was going to happen, I believe NK gave him the OxyContin that he poisoned Shan’ann with, in the hope of causing a miscarriage and she wanted Shan’ann dead. CW & NK are two of the most selfish people I’ve ever come across, he will never leave prison upright but she needs to be investigated, interrogated & strapped to a polygraph but that’s not going to happen because she did a deal with the DA and was able to walk. Disgusting.
Thank you for being so incredibly brave to share your story. Your side speech talking directly to women who are in an abusive relationship right now made me cry. It’s those words I could have needed back then and they are so powerful that they will make it through some layers of denial of women in dangerous situations. Sending everyone who wants it a big virtual hug
Found you through the iiluminaughtii drama and the way you handled that in response to the victims really caught my attention, you seemed very sincere and empathetic which is rarer to see in the community. Subscribed after seeing that sincerity and empathy also is shown in your true crime videos! From your sidebar about domestic abuse, not spending time on the grizzly details and instead on the crime and the victims, and an awesome sense of humour that never comes at the expense of the victims, you're a great youtuber and seem like a genuine person!
After I left my abusive partner I took a course on DV, our relationship was LITERALLY textbook. Was devastated to realize if I’d known that information before we met, at 16, it’d would have saved me 7 years of trauma. We need to teach kids about the signs of grooming and DV and how to get help.
Evil is right! There was definitely demonic activities in this and I believe shanann and the kids were sacrifices for " something" or someone..and nikki was also definitely involved cause she didnt exactly hide her interest in the black arts!....but that's my personal opinion 😢
Yep. And you can always tell someone who has deluded themselves or is just an out-and-out shyster by the way they tell other people, *"You* have to do this thing for me, because that's how God wants *me* to do his work." Absolutely, God talks to people. Absolutely, God gives them a work to do if they are willing. But the whole point is submitting yourself to His will for you, not submitting others to His will for you. If Chris were sincerely changed, he would either be content doing a work for God behind bars or he would be content that God would provide a way. There would be none of this "God is commanding you all through my voice to help me get outta here!"
You're so right in that people often forget the "unsung heroes". Nicole acted in a way that we all should do if we know that something's wrong. She went beyond what a friend would do because she was worried about her friend, and took it upon herself to make sure that shit wasn't going to happen. And now that shit did happen, her quick thinking made sure that wet newspaper Chris (i love that analogy) didn't have time to get away with it. I hope she understands what she did and how much it meant, and I hope that she livs a great life now despite having lost a dear friend.
If not for her, and Officer Coonrod who believed her and stayed, Chris woulda had time to get rid of the Lexus, her purse, and phone. Instead, he gets nailed within HOURS of killing his family, AND gets called into Nate's house to view his driveway activity on a large TV screen. If not for these three people, Watts wouldn't be where he is today.
The funny thing is that people forget that the horrible Shannan had such a loyal friend that tore apart the script they have in the head. And funnily enough, in Spain right now we have a case that has amazing parallelism with this one. Now people in Spain are complaining how clingy Colombian people are and trying to cast doubt to the victim's sister. Why? Were it not for her perseverance and insistence when her brother didn't pick up the phone, this case, like CW's case before, would not have been solved so easily
He has 0 remorse killing his lovely family. He really was so so eager to completely get rid of them and leave it all behind just so he could move on to someone new. It actually sickens me that the first thing he thought of was to murder his own family instead of seeking a divorce from his wife. Sometimes, humans really scare me with how their mind work and all that. On top of that, the pen pals he wrote letters to and his own inmate still adamantly think he is innocent despite his confession of the murders. i’m seriously so appalled with this whole case. Thank God he’s rotting in prison for life
I’m still dumbfounded that anyone would leave their spouse for her let alone murder to be with her. The whole time she was being questioned, she was self serving. Knowing she was the mistress and there were kids involved she “almost felt bad” that’s a quality catch. CHRISTOPHER!
I was sexually and physically assaulted while I was pregnant, resulting in my baby being born 3lbs but she’s 2 and a half now and thriving. I can’t believe I lived but I’m traumatized. Thank you for giving warning signs!
I’m glad your daughter is thriving now. That’s so good to hear. I’m so sorry that happened to you. But more than anything I’m happy your child is doing good
That interview on the porch is what initially got me interested in this case. I saw it and immediately knew that he killed his family. And he looked so relieved to be rid of them. Disgusting.
It has always reminded me of the feeling I had when I was little and I saw that damn Susan Smith video pleading for her kids she murdered to be returned to her...just that vibe that you are watching someone fake fear and concern and the only reason a parent would have to fake that emotion in a situation where their kids are missing is if they already know where the kids are...
It's likely one of those incidents of "Duper's Delight" where the liar takes joy in thinking they successfully are duping people. He probably thought he was doing such a good job lying and putting on his act that he just couldn't help himself but to smile.
The first thing I saw (even before I found out he killed her) was the video of her telling him she was pregnant with #3. I was so confused at his lack of excitement. I wondered if it was someone else’s pregnancy test bc he was so emotionally flat in that moment.
@@erinkinsella91 I didn't say it wasn't subconscious? That's why I said "he couldn't help but to smile", because you're subconsciously smiling. People don't intentionally smile while pretending to care about their family they murdered.
I get the feeling she probs told him like "you have to get rid of them, they're ruining this for us" etc and he took that to mean "take their lives" or something like that
I do too but the police were so intent on providing Chris did the crime they overlooked her involvement and then as time passed they didn’t want to show themselves for being incompetent so they just let it slide. It’s upsetting to know that she got away with it.
You had me cracking up as you describe these horrendous murders….Something so sad, but you made it very enjoyable to watch!! RIP Nicole, Cc , Nico and Bella
THANK YOU! for letting people know they do NOT have to wait 24 hrs. Some TV shows keep saying its required and it ticks me off and results in precious lost time.
That really hit home for me. "They're afraid of the power that *you* have." They must have all the control, and are terrified and can't allow any loss of control, because they're terrified of what would happen as soon as you regain any amount of power, because you're actually THAT powerful, it petrifies them. That was just really inspiring.
What bothers me so much is that he drove with the girls to where he would bury her. Their dead mother was on the floor of the truck beneath their feet. How scared were those babies?
Nicole was a true hero here with how fast she acted, but I think the other male neighbor (don't know his name) really got the police interested in Chris. The guy with the home security footage, immediately offering it to the police to view, and noting that Chris was acting super odd and uncharacteristic, that something was majorly off with him. Both of them are the reason why this case was solved in the time it was.
Ive been obsessed with this case for years. She knew what he did and she may not have physically helped but she encouraged him. She called a drug rehab center right before Chris attempted to OD Shanann with Oxys in North Carolina. She wanted to know how much of the drug it would take to make a person miscarry and/or pass away
@@Keep_it_up_Cutie WHOA… really?! I HATE her & her fake “poor, innocent, victim me” facade!! That woman should be in PRISON or 6ft under… EVIL is what she is!!
I read the discovery too and think she was culpable in some form. I definitely think there's evidence to support she was aware of the plan, not sure why they never prosecuted her, weirdly I think it's because CW protected her and said she didn't know anything. Cell phone records and different inquiries she made and googled suggests otherwise though.
When I first saw the video of him finding out about the baby always gave me a weird feeling.. like awkward .. I could tell immediately he wasn’t happy about it.. every time my husband and I waited for a pregnancy test we were both holding each other and crying when we found out.. he held me so close and so sweetly.. he has never hugged me like the two times we found out we were pregnant
@@akashijamoka and knowing what we know about shannan and woman in general I’m betting that that wasn’t a first take… I bet he had to do it a few times which means this was the best take she could get and that’s so sad! What an asshole pos! I hope they are at peace wherever we go after this life
He just acted the way she wanted him to act…its as if he acted how others want him,to act or something..he seems so immature and just flat emotionally….odd
I discovered this channel a couple weeks ago and I want to say thank you to swoop for the level of effort and hard work she puts into these videos .. officially signing up for Petty University spring classes 😂😂😂. This intro gave me chills
I couldn’t help but cry a little bit at 11:00. That little moment of joy she shared with her daughters, watching them dance and turning the music up a little more just to make the moment a little sweeter. Heartbreaking.
It was so precious. She told Alexa to turn the music up. I wish those little girls could’ve lived longer to be able think back on those moments with their mother and sister. So sick he couldn’t just let them be.
1:08:56 Swoop you make me tear up every time you do reminders / disclosures like this. I hold so much love for you for doing this nearly every time IPV/SA is brought up. ❤
How you managed to cover this unimaginably horrific case not just with compassion, but actual humour in places is a testament to your communication skills. The bit about just getting a damn divorce cracked me up.
I really feel for Nicole.. you can tell she really cared about how Shannan and the girls. She was not going to rest until they were found! I can’t imagine how painful it must have been to find out that her best friend died in such a horrible way 😭
It appears a lot of people fell for NK's whiney voice, dramatically bad acting, inconsistencies and lies. She had no concern for Shannon and her girls, none! Her only concern was for herself. She's a manipulator, and is good at playing people. One day we'll see a tell-all book about her antics with CW.
Yeah my heart almost dropped when I read this comment, till I realized her bf name is Nicole. I hate that her bf and his nasty mistress have the same name.
Thank you for presenting an objective narrative of lovely Shan’ann, Bella, CeCe and baby Nico. May there be complete Justice for the tragically departed🙏✨
THANK YOU for saying there is no requirement to wait *any* length of time to report a missing person! I work with law enforcement, and tv & films perpetuating this dangerous myth is so frustrating!
So I looked this up and it doesn't appear there's a single state in the USA that does have a waiting period to report someone missing, but this isn't a federal law (meaning a state could choose to change this if they wanted to for some unknown reason) But it is against federal law for a state to impose a waiting period to report someone under the age of 21 missing (Suzanne's Law expanded this from 18 to 21 for Suzanne Lyall who went missing when she was 19) Just thought that was interesting
Certainly in Australia it is the same , but for reasons l don't understand police definitely will tell you that you have to wait 24.hrs before they will act on the information. I would hope if it was a child involved no police force anywhere would require you to wait.
My ex beat me immensely - broken nose, jaw, eye socket, ribs, beaten with a baseball bat, held at gun point, the list goes on and on, and honestly, the worst was how he strangled me. He was almost impossible to get away from - I picked up and moved back to my parents house which was 1100 miles from where I was living. The PTSD from all of it is horrible and I still can feel and remember exactly how it felt to be strangled. I felt the life draining from me and I can't shake it. It's so important for people to hear about stories like these and stories from victims themselves. There are ways out, always, no matter what.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I went through similar circumstances when I was really young (18). I'm now 40 and it still effects me. But, I use those feelings for good and look how far I've come! Bless you and all you accomplish
My favorite thing is that Chris did not get ONE MOMENT of peace in between what he did to his family and Shannans friend immediately showing up to bring the reckoning down. Shannan was clearly deeply loved, known, and cared for.
I didn’t know what abuse was until my first serious boyfriend and he did all those controlling things to distance me from family. And I haven’t been the same since. So glad I got out tho! Thanks for sharing your story!
Both men and women can be shitty, but it's men who are a real physical threat when they get pissed off and jealous and controlling. They are just dumb or very simple, I hope you both find a cool guy and can experience love in a fun and safe way.
The police didn't just stop investigating Nikki, they never started. They listed her as a protected witness from the beginning. It was (I believe) the FBI who said she should be looked into further, but the police did not and discounted it. She lied and changed her story so many times, any investigator worth their worth would have had alarm bells going off every second.
On one of the tv specials after he was convicted Tammy Lee (who did the polygraph) was interviewed. She said she was surprised when the entire investigation ceased once he confessed and specifically stated that she didn't think they were done investigating. Nothing will ever convince me NK didn't know more about what happened, or that she was only seeing him for a couple of months. No WAY. Even her BS about deleting all their messages that even law enforcement swallowed - who the hell deletes every conversation they had with a man whose wife and children are MISSING, no matter how mad they are at him.
It is beyond ridiculous. Had Nikki not been involved, I have no doubt this would not have happened. Even if Chris cheated with another, it was Nikki that fueled him to this point. If she was not legally granted immunity, she should be looked at again. She is not one society needs to take advice from and the thought that she is out there counseling people is terrifying.
Esa amante de medio pelo (nk) tenía y sabía todo, todo!! Utilizó su sexual forma de ser para cegar al FBI, es perversa y manipuladora, la actuación fué dramaticamente conseguida y su padre con ella, cuando seguramente debe saber como es su hija. Tanto drama de cara a la policia diciendo cuanto odiaba a CW y resulta que ahora le visita en prisión, eso sí, con otro nombre. Es surrealista !! Creo que sus influencias o contactos deben ser muy importantes, para que no esté pagando por ser partícipe del crimen de S.B.C.and N. Un verdadero escándalo para mí, sinceramente, y encima dejan que a CW le llegue correspondencia de admiradoras ( perturbadas como él ) que lo idolatran. El mundo está desnaturalizado y loco, cada vez el diablo gana más terreno.🤬
A NK le convino que CW se declarara culpable de los 3 asesinatos y eso provocó que ya no la investigarán a ella. Criss la protegió y no sabía que un día antes NK ya había acudido ella misma a "platicar" con la policia
@IrisLl.c Agreed. Very convenient. I don't know that Chris would have turned on her either way due to guilt and NK love bombing him. He probably thought she would stick around while he was in prison
Do you think Chris Watts mistress Nichol Kessinger helped him? No matter what, Chris is the absolute worst. Comment your thoughts!
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Absolutely
I think she's definitely dodgy and definitely played mind games with him.
Yes. In CW interrogation he says “I don’t want to protect her…” and I truly think he meant NK and slipped up, then just went with the whole ‘Shannan did it’
No she didn’t help him. She’s a selfish piece of work but he alone did it.
Before I even listen to doc, I’m going to say that she may have at the very least had an idea of what Watts was capable of and she did nothing to stop him.
Please ppl don't forget that neighbor who told the police officer on the scene "This is not normal behavior for Chris, pacing back and forth" Big shout out to him forever.
Yep, he did so good on bringing that to the police officers attention.
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It was a very pivotal statement for sure, showing his guilt! Disgusting filthy pos monster.
Of course it wasn't normal. He had never killed his family before; and he was terrified they would find out.
He knew. If he'd thought that this was just Chris being worried for his family he wouldn't have mentioned it.
People don't talk about how much his parents trashed his wife on a regular basis either. They practically said she deserved what she got because she wasn't a good wife or mother. They were AWFUL!!!
Seems like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
@randallsimpson3747 Nothing excuses what he did. It doesn't matter if you don't like someone, this isn't just getting a divorce and being called an a hole for leaving after having kids. Normally, you can have a stressful relationship where everyone is to blame WITHOUT offing your entire family. Let's not forget, the kids didn't get attacked because their mom was "overbearing."
I watched the interviews with his parents, and the way they spoke about Shannan was beyond belief. Utterly disgraceful. They as parents deserve this monster for a son.
@@RandallBalls Were his children and unborn son also overbearing? Do you think they too would be alive if they hadn't been so narcissistic?
@@RandallBalls no matter how awful a person is, they do not deserve to be brutally murdered as Shannan was. that is literally written in the overruling documents for most countries, such as the declaration of independence, the declaration of the rights of man and the citizen, etc; "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person." You stating that Shannen caused her own death by acting a certain way is paramount to saying "you wouldn't have been raped if you weren't acting flirty" to a sexual assault survivor. It was CHRIS' own decision to end her life, which is one that is ENTIRELY his fault, and nobody else's.
I love that Chris thought he was gonna get away with it, at least for a little while, and Nicole just rolled in and solved the case a couple hours after the murders. She’s a good friend.
Maybe,She and Shannan Talked About How She Felt about her killer…She Knows She’s in Danger…thats why Nicole came that day Shannan Didn’t Reply on Her Call.
No doubt. She definitely goosed the investigation before CW had any time to clean up and prepare.
He still would have gotten caught.
GPS from his work truck and all that.
I believe he would have made the same bad decisions after the murders. He’ll never get out. He’s right where he deserves to be.
@@dwightrenfield2241he would have been caught within a few hours, I mean he put his pregnant wife in a shallow grave on his worksite!
He’s blames the mistress but doesn’t blame him self for having a mistress… Ok
@@joannemurdock7899
Except the workers don't go walking around the fields, they're working, they do their job and move on.
Shannan's body may not have been found for a very very long time and the girls may never have been found, unless their little bodies caused some blockage of the oil tank workings.
Swoop I was groomed by my brother in law and he used to say, "You can't tell your sister you wouldn't want to ruin our marriage right? She wouldn't understand" I was 18 he was in his 30's. I finally spoke out and told my aunt. Turns out he was a sex offender of young girls. My aunt told the family, and my sister divorced him. You're totally right, I had the power all along. It took me about 7 years to speak out, but I'm glad I did.
Hey, your comment really spoke to me. I was SA'd by my father as a child, and it took me over thirty years before I could speak up. In that time he had SA'd my uncle and three of my nieces, that we are aware of. It took me a very long time to realise that, yes, I had the power all along. It's only the silence that holds the power, not the abuser like most people think. He's in prison now and has been for the past five years. Thank you for posting your comment, I'm sure lots of people can relate. I'm glad you were able to speak up and free yourself from this vile man. I wish you so much happiness ❤
You are so brave and should be very proud of yourself xx
Also, Nicole (Shananns friend) is THE REALEST FRIEND ANYONE COULD EVER HAVE. Like bless her for being a true friend and not just shrugging it off. She had a feeling and she did not let it go and thank god for her.
YUP! This could have been a cold case real fast but her friend really came through
One hundred percent! As stupid as his plan to just skip town seems, he might have had time to pull it off had it not been for Nicole (the friend). I have no doubt this will haunt her for the rest of her life but I hope she knows that without her, Shinann and the kids may never have gotten justice.
Yep. She is the best friend ever I feel ❤ the only good thing about this case
THIS. ALL OF THIS!! ⬆️
Nicole is 110% a hero here. She knew in her heart something was not ok & she refused to let anyone brush it off. We all need to be blessed with a friend like her.♥️
Thissssss she made it so Chris didn’t have that additional day or two to cover up his crimes. Good for her
The fact that he left his daughters in the oil container, will always one of the most disgusting things that will ever be in my mind.
Exactly!!!! how???? My lord those babies are in paradise now! 🙏
@@carydame5680 So if they're in paradise then theres nothing wrong with what he did. You see the problem with your assumption?
@@dragorn3212I know u might have been saying this with good intentions but I really don’t think that the person you are replying to was excusing the murder or making it out to be any less horrifying. Just saying that they hope they are in a better place after enduring such suffering. I hope so too.
He was a horrible sociopath and monster
Murder is wrong even if the child goes to heaven. You're assuming murder is fine as long as the victim goes to a better place, that's the "ends justifying the means" and no, it's not okay. Hell exists for people unrepentant murderers.@@dragorn3212
South African here - we had a case in 2013 where a well known paralympian shot his girlfriend, unaliving her through a bathroom door claiming he thought it was an intruder.
I would never forget the day my mum on the phone, with me crying about my abusive ex, 3 in the morning being kicked out of the house, her words that morning NEVER left me “I don’t want you to be another Reeva” - Reeva being the girlfriend.
A few weeks later my ex strangled me with a bunch of his friends witnessing and not stopping. That day I had realised I could have died. I could have been another Reeva. But I’m not. And I will NOT be.
So I left.
Edit: this is the most wholesome community on TH-cam. For all the people out there, having a similar story to mine, please read the comments below that strangers had left in support.
Remember there is always a support system, even if you don’t feel like it now. There’s always someone that will listen to you ❤️
YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
So proud of you for getting out and hope you're doing much better now! I heard about that case, it was just awful. Much love x
@@violet7773 thank you for the validation. It means so much 🥹🌞
oscar pistorius?
GOOD FOR YOU!! No go out and live your best life, bc you deserve it!! ❤
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Narcissists never take responsibility for their own actions.
NEVER! Their mindset is to lie,lie,lie
Can you read this?
It always sends chills up my spine when I see Nicole drop Shanann off, then wait at the end of driveway to make sure she makes it safely in the house…just knowing it was in the house where she wasn’t safe.
Tennessee Misty 🌻•
I know😢. It's eerie and sad. The simple act of a girlfriend making sure her friend makes it into her home safe in the middle of the night. Neither of them knowing what waited for Shannan on the other side of that door. I always wonder, when I see that ring video footage...if there was any small sense...gut feeling or kind of off/ bad vibe at all that Shannan felt while putting her key in the door. Even if she had felt something, she would have shaken it off, after all, her husband and children were inside.😢
Everytime I drop a friend now and watch them until they enter their house I remember this and everytime I leave I feel uncomfortable.
Unfortunately we can't assume that everyone is going to be unsafe when they walk in their own home that's what makes this so sad... This is the place she should have been safe and comfortable and she was ripped from this world with those beautiful children. He just cals them everyone and those girls he didn't love them he didn't love Nicole and I think she definitely knew something if she didn't have a hand in it he definitely discussed what he was going to do.
There's two different Nicoles, the one that dropped Shanann was her actual friend, the other Nicole was cheating with Chris
Same 😢😢😢😢😢😢
"Because I got so sick, I let him in..." Vulnerability is nectar to narcissists and other abusers.
That video has always given me the chills
Just wanna remind people: It can also be a weapon.
I was strangled 3 times by my vulnerable narcissist ex. I was constantly giving him more chances because I understood his trauma well. I've never met an abuser that doesn't have some tragic backstory though. There is no excuse for abuse.
That's always stood out for me.
BUT, she was looking for someone she could push around.
Hey there! Could i bother you for the timestamp if you have/know it? Thanks in advance , would greatly appreciate it 🙏😊!
@@cre448 11:40
This case absolutely consumed me when it happened. I can't say how many times I've defended Shanann online, the amount of victim blaming is disgusting. He's the one who deserves to be scrutinised after what he did to his daughters and pregnant wife and especially how he disposed of them.
omg SAME, I have literally gone round and round with those nut jobs. The absolute vitriol people spew towards INNOCENT victims is insane. I don’t care what she spent money on or how much, for some people to try and use it as some sort of justification is beyond belief.
I’ve been watching since maybe a year after it happened and I’ve seen the same thing. My own mother has started spewing this anti-shannan bullsh** and I always have to re-explain what victim blaming is 🤦♀️
I've heard a couple questionable things about her but that doesn't matter at all! People don't have to be perfect to deserve to LIVE.
@@PsychoKat90 Yes! Agreed. Even if you do think Shannan was a bad wife, that is not punishable by death! She didn't deserve to die and most certainly those little girls were 100% innocent.
It blows my mind that there is so much hate for Shanann, it’s absolutely disgusting
It is mind boggling that he killed his family and really thought that life would go on with his mistress
And let me just say that mistress is nothing to write home about. I could see if she was stunning and his wife was homeless, but geez it was the other way around. What a nut job
His mistress was at most a very average person with a grating, irritating and domineering personality. It's very odd that CW would commit murder of his own children and pregnant wife for this secondary person/mistress.
@@moirapettifr7127 not odd, happens more than you think with pathetic idiots like chris
@@moirapettifr7127well, Chris was probably not getting intimate with Shann’ann because she was (high risk) pregnant and chronically ill, and sex might’ve been the only way Chris felt connected to her. So, without that connection, Chris probably started to dislike her and as he said, thought a baby would fix things. But he was already too far gone, and at that point- he now had to explain to his mistress why his wife was newly pregnant even though they were going to divorce? Of course at times he acted like the baby might not be his. Yet, Shann’ann loved Chris and was trying to make it work. Instead? He tossed the sled help book and kept screwing his mistress until the mistress was tired of being #2. And now that’s all she will ever be, poop.
@@thegrimloopernah that ain't it
What makes me so upset about this case is how hateful everyone is to Shannan. I hate the excuse that she wouldn’t have been murdered if she wasn’t a “bitch”, or that she “drove him crazy”. The misogyny that bubbles up from his case astonished me.
I really hate that too. I have my own theory about why some people do that. To me, it seems like Shannan was a really awesome person. Some people may be jealous of her but that's not the whole picture. You see, with the way things happened, it could really happen to anyone. They are saying things like she was bossy, she was a bad mother and she spent too much to make it seem that caused her own demise. They can feel superior, and since they think that they don't have those attributes, it gives them a false sense of safety making them think that it couldn't happen to them. Then again, some people are just plain nasty. So that explains it.
Right?! There’s literally a comment a little further up in which a woman basically said Shannan deserved what she got, because she was supposedly such a terrible person.
The misogyny seriously blows my mind. A woman can be brutally, murdered alongside her children, somehow it’s still sort of her fault. Wtf.
Those people that are so disrespectful to Shannon tells me they are evil, no compassion, monsters , just to listen to his lies at the interview makes me sick.
We know our husbands very well, she knew something was going on, of course we are going to start bitching.
God have mercy on them!
She would be here today if NK stood out of CW's pants. Her parents must be so proud of her (sic). Shanann wasnt a bitch...she was a determined, driven mother and wife working to help support her family. NK lied to police. It sickens me, they let it go
Yeah, and also that justification falls flat when you take into consideration that he also killed the kids. What right did he have to do that? Was that also the wife’s fault? These people are full of shit and trust me. They will live a miserable rest of their lives, realizing this.
Amber fry’s story was totally different. She didn’t know Peterson was married. When she found out, she went to police. Helped police to catch him
Yes, it's completely different! It's so clear that Nicole is a piece of s*** and had something to do with it
I cannot believe that she's walking free. I hope she pays for this the rest of her life in whatever capacity she was involved.
Right and you can tell that darling nikki was well versed on that ordeal and tried to emulate it
Yes! Like, I live in the area she used to love in and if I ever run into her, I'm thanking her for all she did to help catch Scott. She took his calls and stayed calm and got him to talk.
Could you point out evidence to back your claim, or is it just your opinion?
100%! Amber was the reason they were able to catch Scott.
“Because I got so sick, I let him in”. That makes me so sad. Because she was so vulnerable, she settled for the first person to show her basic humanity.
Exactly, she let that loser stay too long.
@@Sherry-qi2ju totally agree. The mistress had no business getting it on with a married man. But the comment above from Panda referred actually to something that Shannan said about when she met Chris. She had been struggling with health issues and he was kind to her so she went and married him, not knowing what a monster he would turn out to be/become.
The bar is literally on the floor. Men probably treated her so bad in previous relationships, she fell for the bare minimum.
No. Shannan used men then discarded them. Like her first husband, she used him, had him buy a house they couldnt afford and put it in his name (just like she did with chris) then cheated on him in his bed and he found out. His credit was ruined for life btw and hes not sad shes dead. Shannan was a straight up NPD@@godpilled9077
She let him stay? It was his house, that she forced him to put on his credit. She had no say in it and no income on her own, her MLM was hemorrhaging money. She was costing him 3K a week just in buying that resell crap. Obviously he should have just left her or ran off with the mistress, nobody deserves to be murdered, but lets not paint her as some angel that "gave him everything". All she really did was take. She did the same thing to her first 2 husbands, had them put homes in their names, then once they couldnt afford the luxury homes she demanded... left them with the debt. @@nasirb3914
YO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP!!! I’m an OBGYN intern and one thing that is emphasized in our education is to screen for IPV at every single appointment, especially for OB visits. Identifying pregnant victims of abuse saves more lives as healthcare providers than almost any other intervention. Unrelated but it’s also important in kids with special needs to have a super high index of suspicion for abuse. It makes me physically ill that some of our most vulnerable populations are also at the highest risk for this type of abuse/harm.
Thank you for what you do.
I'm really grateful for the neighbors. Thank God they were able to have recorded footage for the world to see.
That was Nate. I believe he moved away after all the craziness played through. Too many people cruising through knocking on his door.
The fact that her friend went 0-100 when she was missing tells me the friend already had something to be worried about when it came to Chris. I wonder what she knew about the marriage and what Chris did in private.
Anna Victrix• I truly believe that it was bc over the weekend, SW had been talking to her about how she and CW had been having issues all summer, how he didn't want the baby, but she had ordered him a book about working on their marriage & he'd promised to read it & try to make it work with her.....and on the plane ride home, or at dinner b4 the got on the plane to leave, Shannan got that text alert from the bank notification that CW had that unusually high bill from (the name escapes me atm). She called him to ask him what he ordered & he said salmon & 🍺 beer. She then looked up the menu online and saw that tge math did not add up. Not unless he paid for another person's meal. She was suspicious. A woman knows deep down when something like this happens. But we still may have to talk it thru with a friend to see if we're crazy or in denial or just to get another viewpoint. I believe Shannan talked to NA about this restaurant tab. I believe she planned to talk to CW the next day...since she was getting in so late. NA knew Shannan had an ob appointment in the morning and dropped her off, telling her to call her if she needed her to go along to help with the girls. That's why she was on her mind that morning, first thing. Shannan hadn't called her, so Nicole called her to check on how she was doing. We know the rest from there. She knew damn well Shannan had not told her anything about the girls having a play date that morning. Especially when she went or the house & could see SW's car with both car seats in it. Idk if Shannan ever made it upstairs that night or I'd she was attacked as soon as he walked inside the house. If she did go upstairs, she may have not meant to bring up the restaurant tab then but her blood may have been boiling & she may not have been able to help herself. Did CW admit then, that there was someone else? We will never know. I probably will always have questions about how everything played out. I do know that without NA being the friend she was and her quick actions that morning, who knows what CW and NK may have gotten accomplished.. .
@@jennizel so supposedly she did get upstairs he says he killed her in the bedroom I mean he lied about everything else so who knows.
@jennizel it happened in bed. Her makeup was smeared on the bottom sheet where he held her face down. He lied about her eyes filling with blood. There was no ptechial hemmoraging and her hyiod bone was intact...
@@RachelleLove81 do you mind sharing where learned that? She was wrapped in the sheet when he transported her. I saw some info on the autopsies, but not about that being disproved
Right. I wonder if he was abusive
Some thing that stood out for me in the interviews with Nicky is that she referred to “ the plan” multiple times when describing her and Chris’ relationship. That slip raised yet another red flag with me, along with her very disturbing Google history. It’s shocking that she was not investigated further.
“It’s all going to plan.” It’s like. What’s going to plan? Your relationship? That’s a weird way to say your relationship was doing well.
I agree & I can't forgive LE for not charging her. Even the way they interview her is sickening. It's all giggles & minimising. Four people were murdered!!!
Police and DAs care only for the slam dunk case any amateur PI could make. If they need to stay another night up to analyze evidence or just go to a judge to get a warrant for the phones of the accomplices, then no, that's too much work. We've got our principal suspect, who gives a fruck about justice!
Shocking is right .
@@susanbajjada2960 Agree 🌷
That muppet-voiced investigator is full-on flirting with her. It's reprehensible in any situation, unforgivable in this one.
I was in that situation with my ex husband. He went from being very loving to suddenly extremely distant, not even touching me. It was horrible. Of course he was having an affair which I knew nothing about at first. The sudden rejection is very very painful. We are now divorced.
I was in a 14yr abusive relationship. I thought i would never leave...i loved him so much and couldn't imagine my life without him. But i ended it almost 2 yrs ago and am now the happiest i have ever been. Its possible i promise ❤
Congrats! To you and your health, happiness, and safety! 🥳
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Congratulations 🥳
Poor Shanann went through so much , a divorce , then she became very ill .Then she met him , she was so vulnerable … It makes me so ill when I hear « he is the best thing that happened to me « …..
Her friend Nicole is an amazing friend , she cared so much and knew something was wrong … 26:05
I think that her friend so quickly jumped to concern was extremely telling that things were obviously not OK in that house
That's what I've always thought as well..
Her friend knew and jumped to the idea he did something because of all the conversations they had about how she felt he was acting cold didn't want nico and she knew there was signs
They had just been on a trip together so I'm sure they spoke about their lives...I'm not sure that the friends mind went straight the husband but it was clear something was wrong when she didn't hear from her and then clearer when she showed up at her house and then crystal clear when she's lied to by Chris...I can not imagine the what ifs her that played through the friends head
@@eliserenée6248 lots of parallels to Alexis Sharkey and how she told her friends the truth about her marriage on a MLM trip that made them freak out immediately when she went out of communication and then point fingers at her asshole husband when she was found
NA was best friends with Sandy... Weird that NA moved to Colorado... I think MA jumping the gun is weird... a little 2 over bearing IMO. I think she knows way more... not that she was involved but she knows more. Also, when Shannan died and gave birth in her death state, why isn't there Amy blood?!?! That's a huge question in the discovery?!?!? Where is the blood....
I love how at 26:13 the neighbor with the video camera kept emphasizing “I would’ve caught anything coming in and out of the driveway” several times to passively let CW know that he got em.
Love that guy. The second Chris leaves the room he's pointing things out to the police officer
CW is sloppy & clueless af.
I’m so glad you brought up how being strangled by a partner makes you a much higher risk of being unalived by that person. It’s so true and so deadly! Also, the more it happens the more likely you are to have subsequent injury.
I will say it until my last days, the mistress not only KNEW what he did, I fully believe she helped plan the deaths of his family. Her search inquiries and weird ass behavior in the interrogation rooms solidified it for me. I will never understand why she was never even considered a serious suspect.
She absolutely helped him plan it and probably killed the girls.
Agreed
Planning is not doing. At the end its his fault for taking a plan from a stranger telling u to hurt ur family tf
@@Lala-lw6pi where did I say it wasn't his fault? Tf.
I agree! She knew WAY more then she says. I think she made some sort of deal to get out of any involvement.
The part that gets me is when Shannan is walking to her house and the good nicole literally sits in her car waiting till she literally entered the house and closed the door. She was the realest this whole time and we need friends like her
That must run through NA's mind constantly. So many people affected by what the monster Chris Watts did
That's how you can tell Shan'ann really cared about people. She has real friends unlike Chris who can't care about anyone but himself and his own base needs.
good nicole and bad nicole. ironic the mistress and best friend have the same name. at least best friend wasn't the mistress. happens often too.
Being strangled is terrifying. I’m not afraid of monsters anymore I used to be married to one. Prayers always🙏🏼
prayers don't keep you safe
@@Nathan-j2p that’s true being smarter than him and being brave works. I had 3 small children and no job. It was 2 days before Christmas I chose a safe house for abused women. I didn’t like it got me or my kids but I stayed They gave my kids Christ and I healed It took a long time physically heal. I was petrified. After a few myths they helped me find a job and small place. It was very hard. And scary. I would be dead today if I hadn’t found the courage to go. Have faith I. Yourself. ❤️👍🏻🙏🏼
Me too!
It is much better to live alone that with bad family, friends, or spouse.
@@ganymeade5151 very true
He replied to his coworkers group email to join Fantasy Football after his family went missing and the news crews were crawling all over his yard. He's a special kind of demented.
The fact that "Darling Nikki" tried to make it all about her in the interrogation is so frustrating. She shows no remorse, no emotions towards the whole situation. When she said, "It's unfair to me that he lied to me the whole time," doesn't sit right with me. It was all an act.
If she did have anything to do with it, I hope justice is seved. The truth will always come out.
The sad thing in life is the truth doesn't always come out in the end I can give many many examples of it if you wish
...and KARMA is real.
@@wachamakolit1YES WITH A GOOD MEMORY.
Nikki and Chris are both perfect textbook examples of narcissists.
Yes, she looks so away from the situation, not even feels bad.
I think my favorite part in this whole thing of him getting caught was when he went to his neighbors house with the police. The guilt radiating off him was palpable.
Just commented this. It’s insane. I’ve never seen someone look SOOOOOO GUILTY
Right!!!😮
When the video of the fetus shows on the screen as they’re watching for “possible suspects” on the neighbors tv screen.
My sentiments exactly!
Right! And the neighbor immediately picked up on it
girl you summed it up
I watched my horribly abusive "stepdad" strangle my mother to near death. that's when she finally had enough, pressed charges, and left him. I still remember those bruises.
a few years later, he killed a man. don't ignore warning signs, stay safe out there.
Edit: kinda forgot about this, and seeing the conversations had has been...a mixed bag of emotions. it's important to get rid of the stigma and victim blaming that comes into play in domestic violence. my mom was on a lot of very strong bipolar and depression medicine during these years and she was like a walking zombie. never EVER would she let someone treat her like that otherwise. she was vulnerable, and that's when these types of people attach themselves to their victims. obviously some people have very little class but some of the worst have been deleted. I also want to apologize for some of my later comments- that particular person struck a cord with me and I threw a lot of my character out of the window in defensiveness. I have a lot to work on, and I'm trying to be a kinder, less abrasive person. two wrongs don't make a right, and while what that person said was vile and cruel, I could have responded more gently and with more maturity. important conversations will never be successful in a hostile environment, and I would like to lead by example with that.
If he strangled her to death how did she press charges?
@@darlenebertocci4631 to near death. NEAR. reread before you type something dumb next time.
@BdkPlays excuse me Ms perfect. How do u go threw life with never making a mistake?? It must be daunting being perfect
@@darlenebertocci4631 imagine being such an A hole that you 1) inaccurately question someone's trauma- your intention is not lost on me, you came here on the offensive- even if it was typed wrong, most people would just assume I made a mistake, which is something you of ALL people should understand, and 2) respond SO defensively when you're called out on it; because you know you were wrong but it would just hurt your precious ego too much to apologize and own up to it. your first comment was rude to begin with- I give what I get. imagine being THIS RUDE to someone underneath the comment I made. get your head out of your own butt for a second and think about someone other than yourself. oh, no, you're offended? you seem to have no problem being offensive; if you can't take it, don't dish it- you don't care about MY feelings, so I don't care about yours. I'm far from perfect, but at least I'm closer than you.
also, through* how are you gonna insult someone who corrected your reading mistake and then make a spelling mistake at the same time? might i suggest an intensive reading course?
@@darlenebertocci4631Whoa. That was an extremely vile thing to say
One of the saddest things is she just thought he didn’t love her anymore….not only did he not love her HE KILLED HER in her last moments…I can’t imagine
My ex choked me against a wall and I knew that was when I needed to get out. If I had stayed I would have potentially been the subject of one of your docs. Thank you for mentioning this in your videos, every woman needs to know this.
I'm so so so so very sorry for what you have had to survive. Thank you for feeling comfortable enough to share part of your story with us. I wish you nothing but peace and healing
@@PettyUniversity ❤️❤️❤️
Same here. My eyes ws bloodshot and had red spots all over them for weeks.
@@sh.4409 I'm so sorry. DV is absolutely terrifying, I know I stuck around for way too long. Hope you're doing okay ❤️
I am very very sorry you went through that. I hope that you are happy and healthy and safe now. Much love to you! 💜
Survivor here, thanks a million, I got victim shamed for way too long. Hope no one else ever, even my worst enemy, has to walk that mile.
With how quickly Hero Nicole called her doctor to find out of she went to her appointment & then immediately reported her missing tells me she probably IMMEDIATELY knew he had done something 💔
Not much of a friend if she dropped her off to her death knowing or feeling she's in danger. Rubbish mate
@@unknownunknown2576 Nope. That is NOT okay..
Shanann wanted to go home. If Nicole had KNOWN what Chris was going to then (and ONLY then) would you have ANY grounds to say something like "she dropped her off to her death"... Having a bad feeling or not liking him wouldn't give her the right to keep Shanann from going home. That would be kidnapping... which is a FELONY.
Shanann's family and friends were also victims here. What we're NOT going to do is victim blame... in any capacity.
@Johann Cai yes, thank you for checking them!
@unknown unknown Nobody imagined Chris would hurt her and his daughter's. At the same time NA had known about Chris making SW feel as if he was pulling away and she also knew SW wouldn't miss her doctor's appointment she specifically scheduled because she hadn't been feeling well and thought something was wrong with the babycand Chris didn't know about SW scheduling this appointment because he wasn't communicating with SW since the 6 weeks she spent visiting family out of state and then immediately went on her buisness trip with NA so NA was with SW when she scheduled the OB/GYN appointment randomly. We now know the reason SW wasn't feeling well is because CW had given her narcotics in an attempt to cause her to have a miscarriage. In reality the wheels were set in motion that led to him getting caught the moment he poisoned SW because had she not been feeling well, she wouldn't have scheduled the appointment he wasn't aware of which caused NA to call LEO when she knew SW had missed her appointment.
I agree, she seemed to have that intuition, and connection with her best friend. She knew from the beginning something was off.
I think one of the biggest reasons why this case stuck with everyone soo much was because we all felt there was a lot more to it. There is something our guts won’t let go of, telling us there is more to the story.
Your spot on comment this gous years before the murders this missteps know shanna she work in the same hospital and she met her at Works party god this in 2016 that Chris sayed to shanna this my work mate !?????? Ummm she google her ??? Hers before That RELLY very creepy and scary FACT !!!! Not fiction there the prove there and she walking free baffles me 🤷♀️
Absolutely, men’s violence and people believe men would not hurt women or children. See the movie:- Women talking.
@@mirelam9601 Ima check that movie out
Absolutely. Like how the neighbors say he would “go crazy.” Or the bff’s immediate distress when she went missing for a few hours; she called the cops despite Chris’s reassurances, so she had zero trust in him. The fact that he strangled and smothered them all, when strangling is usually an end stage escalation, not a first assault. There’s so many signs that there could have been a long history of abuse. IMO I believe he was an undercover narcissist, ie a narcissistic abuser adept at hiding the abuse because appearances mean everything to them. I believe that’s why he didn’t go for divorce: ironically, IMO he didn’t want to look like a bad guy for leaving two babies and a pregnant wife for another woman; it was better if he seemed like the poor victim because they all just “disappeared.”
@@janettehenderson9548 it was in July of 2017.
People who blame Shannan can do one. You could be the biggest jerk that ever walked and not deserve what happened to her and her children. I don’t know what scares me most that men like Chris Watts exist, or the frightening numbers of people who make excuses for him.
Yes! This is so perfect.
Two things can be true simultaneously.
And their side piece acting all surprised when the husband/wife wipes out their family so they can live happily ever after. If he did it to his wife what's makes her think he wouldn't do it to her after all the cuteness and passion wears off and reality sets in. SOChris and side piece.
@@joannemarquez2085 right. As they say you lose them how you get them.
She worked for an MLM and tried to portray this perfect life on social media which for anyone who knows a little about MLM huns is usually all bullshit. Does that mean she should of been killed? Absolutely not. Do I wish they would of gave Chris Watts the death penalty for killing not only his wife but 2 daughters and unborn son? 100%.
She seemed pretty smug after knowing what he did almost like she had won. The mistress is as much as a scumbag as the person who did it.
Yep Nikki is a monster like Chris. Despicable pair.
Agree she is so fake in that interview. Her giggling is disgusting. I don’t care whether he said he was getting a divorce. Ppl lie .. every single person knows this. Don’t date married ppl.
Friends to Sw should had took the kids mom away from the killer
The fact he thinks he deserves to be out of prison just shows how deranged he is.
When my drunk ex finally put his hand around my neck a few months back, Swoop’s voice telling me that statistic rang in my head and I decided in that moment I was walking away for good. Called the cops and haven’t looked back - Love ya lady, thanks for what you do ❤
Can relate. Glad you got out and glad I got out too. Anyone who's been through this deserves better. I'm sorry you had to experience that. Proud of you for leaving❤
I’m so happy you got away ❤️ I hope you’re safe and happy now
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰👆👆👆👆
queen shit. so proud of you.
Take care! Good on you!
It always struck me as odd that they never pursued NK further despite being caught in several lies and acting suspiciously during her interrogations.
Daddy was in LE, right?
literally.. her calling the clinic for a drug that chris watts mysteriously obtained to drug shannan..
@@aisle_of_view I actually hadn’t heard that before reading that in the comment section of this video, but that explains why a grown ass woman had her daddy sitting in the whole time. So sus.
@@yurmom_ I mean, you can’t make this stuff up. 🤦🏼♀️
The way she talks about & demeans their marriage by stating it was “contractual” is INFURIATING. She knew & I think was involved in the murders. Her behavior is bizarre at best- if I was dating a man that killed his whole family I would be PETRIFIED.
I know it's been said a lot, but I just want to reiterate that Nicole is the kind of friend we should ALL try to be. We need more people like her in the world.
Was the name of the next door neighbor Nicole ? What a coincidence it was also the name of the lover........Weird.
On a normal day, she would've been annoying as hell, especially if Shannan had just overslept because she had a late arrival time. But in this situation, she nailed it
She loves the attention from this innocodent what do you mean! She's done so many interviews and shows and shorts, of she really cared she wouldn't act like this lol
@@smithamy1982 She may not have been as persistent on other days. Instinct is a powerful thing
@@Dks_Bh8Maybe that helps her cope with having her best friend and her two tiny daughters murdered. There's no reason to talk down on her. If it wasn't for her, Nicole and her babies may not have gotten any justice (although He is a giant dumbass and liar so he probably would have been caught anyway)
A big point is that Amber Fry didn’t know that Scott was married, nikki did
And she knew Shenann was pregnant & still “married” to Chris. Not separated. Why google will he leave her if they’re already in that process? She also saw Shenanns FB posts.
Thank you for talking about this. My abuser (who also groomed me as a minor) convinced me I would go to jail if I told anyone about the physical and sexual abuse. The scariest thing I ever did was get up from the ground in the middle of the woods behind our house (he thought he killed me and dragged me into the woods to hide my body) and walk to a neighbors house to call for help. I was terrified and started crying to the officer about how I know I was going to jail but could I at least make sure my kids have somewhere safe to go first..to which he looked at me like I was insane and said “ma’am you could have hit him with your car and it still wouldn’t justify what he did to you. Nothing that happened here is your fault. You’re safe I promise” and I was in so much shock I almost passed out.
It’s so important for us to talk about these experiences so other people in this position know it’s not normal and there is a way out. They don’t love you, they are lying to you, and there are ways to get away so you never have to worry about being hit again. I promise ❤
❤❤❤ I'm glad you're safe now. I can not imagine being in that situation. I hope you live a long, happy, beautiful life from here on out ❤
I am so glad you are safe now.
I hope the vile piece of trash that did that to you gets every bit of karma from what he did to you. I hope he is sitting in a jail cell wasting away. Wanting to end it all but is prevented from doing so, while he is under threat from the other prisoners that hate woman beaters.
I hope you are finally living a happy and blissful life. Surrounded by people that only have good intentions for you and that love you dearly. I hope you are doing whatever you want to do, living peacefully and happily.
☮️ & 💜
Wow I’m so so sorry
I agree and am sorry that you went through that. Unfortunately when we speak of what we’ve been through then we get called liars or that we’re making stuff up. It’s sad! Good for you for telling your story!
I hope you’re okay now, that sounds awful.. 💔
The knowledge of what he did to those babies’ bodies and the condition they were found in haunts me to this day. If anyone has ever discovered a body, the skin slippage stage is horrifying and I thought I’d itch myself out of my skin for several days after finding a friend deceased. I can’t imagine finding children in this condition.
I am so sorry. Both for your loss and going through the discovery. I can't even imagine that kind of trauma.
Oh I’m so sorry. I found my mom this way. It took me many years of therapy to calm the PTSD. This man is evil. There is no excuse for killing and especially when it’s your child(ren). Unfathomable to me.
I'm sorry you went through that. I perform autopsies and know what you're talking about, but it hits different when it's a friend. I hope you're doing okay
@@yourloanlady_jess weren’t their bodies found in water?
@@Zzz2x he put them in crude oil. The bodies being immersed in a liquid possibly sped up the skin slippage.
She literally says in the email on June 12th: “I want to build a beautiful life like you have with your wife and two little girls.” She knew he had a wife. She put it in writing. Guess the police didn’t care that she lied?
She pissed me off too, like him.
All the lies, she doesnt care.
Meaning she'll do it again.
She needs to be in prison she definitely helped and put this in motion
Thanks!
This case always makes me so said because those babies really weren’t old enough to know what was happening, all they could know was that they were in pain and their dad, someone they should trust, standing in front of them
It makes me absolutely sick to my stomach to even try to think about what they went through.
The saddest part was that Bella was old enough to know what was happening😢. She saw her mother's dead body, she sat in the truck while he killed her sister, and she begged for her life😢. That really is the worst part. He didn't have to put her through all of that. He truly is a monster
A coworker was murdered by her BF at 12 weeks,
heartbreaking. i cant even begin to imagine, its truly too horrible to think about
@@bobatcat sorry for your loss💔
A couple people have made similar comments but I also want to thank you for making a point about strangulation. I wish I would have asked for help when I was in a similar situation. My ex would put a pillow over my face and in the fog of the abuse I couldn’t see how close he was to k*lling me. Any young women watching this doc- you ARE strong enough to leave. Everything will be okay. Take the leap and leave. I wish more than anything I would have left sooner because the abuse got worse, im very lucky to be alive today
Are you safe now? It is terrible and I wish you the best with recovering
I was also in vilonte relationships wear strangled tied up beaten called fat an ugly when I’m skinny and blonde they just wanted to put me down but I’ve come out the other end wear Shannon did not 😢x
same 37 years. no pillow but tons of mental abuse and he cheated since day 1 nonstop.
@@christinawhite3279 I realise that it's very important to abusive men that the woman is seen as ugly and in bad shape. I've been through this a few times. The men that do this will typically be men with severe pathological lying habits. Cruelty, inconsideration, selfishness, willing to do really bad things for sex and money as well. I hope there is a very special place in Hell for people that make a mockery if someone for what they look like. Looks are no reason for war and hatred.
In my early twenties an ex boyfriend attacked and strangled me- close to blackout I fought harder than I thought possible and got away, today many years removed I still have random flashbacks.
I'm so glad you humanize the victim(s) and don't just focus on the killer. So many focus so hard on the killer but leave the victim as a footnote. It's comforting to see someone who doesn't.
Also, thank you for the talk about abuse. I recently escaped an abusive ex/friend, and I'm recovering slowly. I hope you are as well.
As a mother, and someone who was abused and strangled, there are not words bad enough to describe what this man has done.
Swoop, i cant explain how your words get to me. You always make me feel seen and validated even though you don't really know me.
Thank you for spreading awareness and educating us all on these topics, because if theres one thing i want to do is teach and protect others so they dont have to go through what so many of us have.
Please keep doing what youre doing, and from the bottom of my heart, thank you. I wish i could share my whole story with you.
Agree. I escaped the IBLP/Fundie cult (duggar thing). I refused to watch anything about it but was advised by the 1 other person who escaped to watch SWOOP. I am so glad I did. She is kind & warns any of us who may be triggered. TY SWOOP for your hard work and considerate approach to difficult issues.
Yes, I think his girlfriend was involved. She was way too unconcerned that her married boyfriend killed his own children. She gave off really creepy psycho vibes. I've never understood why they didn't dig deeper into her possible involvement.
She was not shocked one bit which means she knew he was planning on killing his family. When someone has had to adjust to a situation, they no longer react to it with shock and bewilderment. Nicki did not express those type of emotions. She was concerned with herself.
That is totally untrue. Don't start shit that's not true. She was mortified. She said what the hell did he think he could just get rid of his family that way and then get together with me?. Well that wasn't gonna happen. And she was not picked up to get questioned. She voluntarily went there to give any info she knew. He lied to her also. He told her they were sperated and going threw divorce proceedings,- the only thing she is guilty of is having crappy taste in men!!!! Do u really in a millionvyrs think she wanted her life ruined over him???? Come on now. Really think about that question for a minute!!
@@darlenebertocci4631Finally, someone with a brain. She had nothing to do with those murders People are so stupid. Oh they investigated, but I still think she had something to do with it. People are so naive. People are so idiotically stupid. I said it again. They would never let her get away with that if she had any involvement whatsoever. She was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Personally I couldn't stand her myself but I'm not going to accuse someone of murder when they they weren't involved.
@@darlenebertocci4631 Nichole was involved. Why did she lie so much to investigators?
@Pro-LifePro-Women would u want the world to know u got lied to and were a fool and screwing a married man that did something to his family??? Lol lol I don't know anyone that wouldn't try to make them selves distant and not to have been such an idiot. I think thats a total normal thing to do when uve been doing something ur not so proud of
Just when you think CW couldn’t sink any lower, he does. This case will always stick with me. It was the case that made me interested in true crime.
RIP Shannan, Bella, CeCe, and Niko 😢 you are missed and will never be forgotten ❤
Idk I don’t think this mistress is at all innocent. She def brainwashed him. But he is a grown man and she played her cards right
@@marakahloh I don’t deny that NK had anything to do with it. I agree with you. She’s not innocent. Allegedly her father had connections in law enforcement, which could be why he was present in the room with her while she was being questioned. 👀
NK was/is demonic. I blame her more than him. He was way too stupid to come up with this elaborate plan. I’m so glad her friend ruined their plan. I’m guessing they intended to blow up the tanks with the babies. That’s why he didn’t care about leavin behind the sheet etc.
RIP little ones. Perhaps life w this man would have been worse :( 💔
This case brought me to True Crime as well.
I really love that you covered up the kids' faces. They could not consent to being filmed. Thank you for doing that.
The kids were constantly all over the internet. Shannon did one of those family blogs in conjunction with selling her health products from home. It portrayed the family as happy and perfect, which was of course far from the truth. Watts went along with the charade, even staging the pregnancy reveal which he already knew about and both knew he was not happy with. Poor Shannan was so hopeful the marriage could be salvaged. She and her beautiful children would die because a vile psychopath decided they were inconvenient.
@@sarahrichards8967 I think NK and her friend Jim were there There is no way he did this on his own No Way He Knew He helped but no not on his own
When I was in college in my early 20’s this young man - showed me romantic interest- I too became interested in him as well. Shortly, I learned he had a wife a few kids and a newborn at home. I avoided him like the plague. One day he approached me and asked me out - I told him. You have a wife and kids at home. Go take care of her. Time passed and one day he approached me and said he respected me a lot - I asked, how so? Because I can see you like me as much as I like you but you respect I’m married. I listened and said bye and kept walking. “ these women that infiltrate marriages only think about themselves. The suffering of the wife and kids is something that never enters their minds. This Nicole sounds scary 🫣 and detached from the fact that this man just killed his two babies and wife. She still thinking of him as ‘cute’. Monster! I think she lied about everything and she knew a lot more than she led on.
What's so interesting is that everything in this case happened so fast. The plan fell apart immediately, the confession not far behind. The arrest, legal proceedings, sentencing, all over and done with by the end of the year.
So so so fast! I really commend Nikole Atkinson for her persistence in getting police out there, and the detectives for their critical work in the interrogations.
I believe that Nicole Atkinson foiled the plan. They hadn't accounted for her showing up looking for Shanann and being so persistent.
@@LilyBecca The neighbor also helped a lot. If you watch the JCS video he clocked Chris' behavior right away.
Curiously fast…
@@ShowWithNoName Agree, while the friend got the ball rolling and was awesome, I feel like the neighbor with all the security video evidence and him telling police that Chris wasn't acting right, etc. He should get the same amount of cred.
Oh man that picture of her family crying is heart breaking. I can’t imagine loosing your child and grandchildren all at once.
No one will ever convince me that the mistress was not in on it and if not, the one that pushed him to do it. She has lied about everything including her saying that she didn’t know if they were going to get a divorce. She didn’t know….but then she’s googling “how to marry ur MISTRESS” not “how to marry after a divorce” or “how long after divorce can u remarry” no HOW TO MARRY UR MISTRESS!!!!!! It is maddening that they did not put her in jail!!!!! 😡
Agree !!!
Exactly, she claimed she never met them yet has Google results and pictures from a party long before they worked together. She saw an easy target and went for it. How come no one has seen or heard from her since? Like she never existed.
I agree 100%
100% agree! Since day one I always felt she had some involvement in any of this case
No evidence that she was involved but they should have put her in jail anyways? Yet, so many of y'all have a fit if someone is arrested without evidence. Make it make sense.
I struggled a long time with calling what my ex did was strangulation because I could still breathe. Didn't matter. His hands were on my throat. The violence escalated. I am so fortunate I got out. Now I help others leave. This case guts me every time I hear about it
I don't see how Chris thought he could get away with their murders because he made it pretty obvious that he was guilty when he dumped their bodies at his workplace.
The dude legit has 10 IQ. If you look up “dumb jock who peaked in high school” you’ll find his picture. All the obvious incriminating google searches. These may be the two dumbest people. They met, rubbed two brain cells together and came up with this plan. I can’t believe they let her get off so easily when she was so clearly part of it too (Nikki I mean)
Everything pointed to Watts from the get go. "CW made a lot of stupid mistakes - Dr. Phil".
I don’t see how anyone thinks they can get away with murder.
I just wanna add,as a person who walked away from my “old” life with nothing, lost it all. Had nothing but a dog and a bag. 8 years later, I built a house, married, had my son , acquired the farm I always wanted. Just leave, divorce like you said Swoop. If you unalive someone, your like is over. Let’s make better choices, love each other. No nothing is worth taking a life. Walk away, children have the right to live, even if it’s without you. Thank God for the friend, for the neighbor with the video.
A dog, yeah!
Some people (like Chris Watts) are selfish beyond belief. He wanted a clean slate. He got rid of his entire family because they were in the way. His thought process isn't normal.
Thanks for the boring virtue signalling. Seems like your first wife dodged a bullet.
good for you!!!! Watching these videos are triggering, they make me realize how lucky I am to be alive. Truly awesome for you!!!
You talking about how serious being strangled is has really helped me, I've always felt bad for unfriending my friend who was struggling with mental health issues but she stranged me. One day in class she just walked up to me and put her hands around my throat, I panicked, pushed her away and yelled at her and she was upset with me for the next couple of days
That doorbell footage is sad because you can see her best friend parked in the street making sure she saw Shanann get safe inside her home. But it wasn’t safe.
Thank you Swoop. It means so much that you bring the issue of strangulation to light as not always being fatal but can be a warning. This is very important for people in domestic partnerships to understand. You coverage of Gabby Petitio was second to none.
An Influencer Alexis Sharkey was said to have a history of strangulation by her partner and later he wound up taking her life.
Thank you for your interest in not only getting these stories out here but thank you for explaining harmful patterns in a way that can at least let people know it's a warning sign of potential danger. It helps those of us who try to be there for our friends in these situations as well.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, and for listening/watching. I agree fully with you, and hope more people who are at risk can learn what a danger it can be, and they are not "overreacting"
@@PettyUniversity we love and adore you Swoop❤️
I have a friend in this situation right now but she won’t listen and swears “he’s the love of my life”
@@tutttutt9558 oh no 😢 I have a student I am trying to help this way as I can see the marks and his neck, and his partner sits outside of class waiting for him. I think maybe because of his gender he feels no one will take him seriously either.
I'm sorry to hear about your friend as it can't be easy knowing what you know and have observed. I hope she get a glimpse of this video or a glimpse of the danger your friend may be in. She's very lucky to have you. Thanks for sharing with me. I don't feel as alone trying to help knowing others feel like this.
@@PettyUniversity thanks so much Swoop. Overreacting was a word my student used and believe because he is male no one will care of the situation he is in to boot, not as much focus on this type of abuse is focused on enough.
What breaks my heart more so about this case is knowing Shannan spent the last weeks of her life feeling unloved. I know how bad it hurts when you feel like you’re losing someone who means the world to you. It’s one of the worst feelings in the world. The tragedy of this case has so many levels to it. It’s absolutely horrific.
Ps- I don’t know how p.o.s. Chris still feels no remorse for taking his children’s lives. Of course he should feel remorse for Shannan as well, but his kids were HIS KIDS. He created those two beautiful little girls. They were his, and he was their world. They loved that monster so much. How can you feel nothing for them? How? HOW?!? If that man can disregard his own children like that, he can disregard anyone, and he’s not a threat? Give me a f*ckin’ break.
Because he felt like shannan was so bossy and dominant to where he snapped and associated them with her instead of using common sense and understanding they’re his too
@@cerealrakist7360 your comment reads as if you are trying to say that you somehow know this monsters own thoughts and feelings, and are speaking on his behalf. He didn't "snap, it was premeditated and he admits this himself, and even if he did "feel that Shanann was so bossy and dominant" like you claim, that doesn't for a second explain or justify his decision to murder his own children! The guy is just another typical example of a cowardly family annihilator and normal people will never truly be able to understand the sick and twisted reasoning behind their heinous crimes.
He’s an absolute monster. Anybody who can hurt or take the life of children has no heart or soul.
He doesn’t care. He disassociated because he didn’t see them as his kids. He saw them as obstacles in the way of sex with a willing, eager whore.
tih0121. Yes exactly, I think the reason LE moved so fast to get him “off the street” was because if you can do what he did to the closest people to you & innocent children at that, youare capable of absolutely anything & no one is safe. CW is a monster & that sleaze bag mistress was definitely involved, at the very least, she knew it was going to happen, I believe NK gave him the OxyContin that he poisoned Shan’ann with, in the hope of causing a miscarriage and she wanted Shan’ann dead. CW & NK are two of the most selfish people I’ve ever come across, he will never leave prison upright but she needs to be investigated, interrogated & strapped to a polygraph but that’s not going to happen because she did a deal with the DA and was able to walk. Disgusting.
Thank you for being so incredibly brave to share your story. Your side speech talking directly to women who are in an abusive relationship right now made me cry. It’s those words I could have needed back then and they are so powerful that they will make it through some layers of denial of women in dangerous situations. Sending everyone who wants it a big virtual hug
Found you through the iiluminaughtii drama and the way you handled that in response to the victims really caught my attention, you seemed very sincere and empathetic which is rarer to see in the community. Subscribed after seeing that sincerity and empathy also is shown in your true crime videos! From your sidebar about domestic abuse, not spending time on the grizzly details and instead on the crime and the victims, and an awesome sense of humour that never comes at the expense of the victims, you're a great youtuber and seem like a genuine person!
The presenter is a star despite the blue hair!
Some stars shine blue, so, star through and through!
Me, too!
@@karenhogan-t5w "despite the blue hair" LMAO
I love her blue hair and all !! It just makes her more HER!!
After I left my abusive partner I took a course on DV, our relationship was LITERALLY textbook. Was devastated to realize if I’d known that information before we met, at 16, it’d would have saved me 7 years of trauma. We need to teach kids about the signs of grooming and DV and how to get help.
YES!!!!!!!
What was the course?? I’d like to do one 🙂💜
Me too. I’d like to prepare my granddaughter.
He should never get out of prison ever. Absolutely pure evilness what he did. So sad 😢
Evil is right! There was definitely demonic activities in this and I believe shanann and the kids were sacrifices for " something" or someone..and nikki was also definitely involved cause she didnt exactly hide her interest in the black arts!....but that's my personal opinion 😢
Elizabeth McAloon• He won't ever get out.
Never ever leaving prison
Yep. And you can always tell someone who has deluded themselves or is just an out-and-out shyster by the way they tell other people, *"You* have to do this thing for me, because that's how God wants *me* to do his work."
Absolutely, God talks to people. Absolutely, God gives them a work to do if they are willing. But the whole point is submitting yourself to His will for you, not submitting others to His will for you. If Chris were sincerely changed, he would either be content doing a work for God behind bars or he would be content that God would provide a way. There would be none of this "God is commanding you all through my voice to help me get outta here!"
He snapped and did the biggest mistake of his life. 😡
the way hes smiling when talking about "never tucking them in again and not seeing them again" is so telling 🤮🤮🤮
You're so right in that people often forget the "unsung heroes". Nicole acted in a way that we all should do if we know that something's wrong. She went beyond what a friend would do because she was worried about her friend, and took it upon herself to make sure that shit wasn't going to happen. And now that shit did happen, her quick thinking made sure that wet newspaper Chris (i love that analogy) didn't have time to get away with it. I hope she understands what she did and how much it meant, and I hope that she livs a great life now despite having lost a dear friend.
If not for her, and Officer Coonrod who believed her and stayed, Chris woulda had time to get rid of the Lexus, her purse, and phone. Instead, he gets nailed within HOURS of killing his family, AND gets called into Nate's house to view his driveway activity on a large TV screen. If not for these three people, Watts wouldn't be where he is today.
In my opinion she was the only sane, normal person in that whole case. Everyone else was acting like they were movie characters.
@@kem-oj4uzthat's the problem, people say horrible things about Shannan because they think it's a movie and they are following the script.
The funny thing is that people forget that the horrible Shannan had such a loyal friend that tore apart the script they have in the head. And funnily enough, in Spain right now we have a case that has amazing parallelism with this one. Now people in Spain are complaining how clingy Colombian people are and trying to cast doubt to the victim's sister. Why? Were it not for her perseverance and insistence when her brother didn't pick up the phone, this case, like CW's case before, would not have been solved so easily
He has 0 remorse killing his lovely family. He really was so so eager to completely get rid of them and leave it all behind just so he could move on to someone new. It actually sickens me that the first thing he thought of was to murder his own family instead of seeking a divorce from his wife. Sometimes, humans really scare me with how their mind work and all that. On top of that, the pen pals he wrote letters to and his own inmate still adamantly think he is innocent despite his confession of the murders. i’m seriously so appalled with this whole case. Thank God he’s rotting in prison for life
I’m still dumbfounded that anyone would leave their spouse for her let alone murder to be with her. The whole time she was being questioned, she was self serving. Knowing she was the mistress and there were kids involved she “almost felt bad” that’s a quality catch. CHRISTOPHER!
Nikki was a raging narcissist herself
chris was passive in his marriage - imagine the control his mistress had over him.
Yep for sure he was the Bitch in the relationship.
Gh
Nichol wasn't "special" to Chris, she was just the new supply. He would grow tired of her in time, and most likely she would've been his next victim.
I'm so happy to find your channel. I too survived strangulation by my ex-husband in 2010. It's been a long road of recovery too.
I hope you are okay. 👍
I was sexually and physically assaulted while I was pregnant, resulting in my baby being born 3lbs but she’s 2 and a half now and thriving. I can’t believe I lived but I’m traumatized. Thank you for giving warning signs!
I’m glad your daughter is thriving now. That’s so good to hear. I’m so sorry that happened to you. But more than anything I’m happy your child is doing good
I'm terribly sorry. How horrible for you. I'm glad your baby was okay, but how miserable for you. Bless you, honey.
So happy for u and ur babys survival! God bless ur hearts! My grand daughter was just under 3 pounds and is a teen today.....she will continue!
It takes some time, but you will come through it. I'm sorry it happened to you, but there is a light at the end, even if you can't see it now.
Thank all of you. It really does mean a lot having support when horrific things like that happen to us.
That interview on the porch is what initially got me interested in this case. I saw it and immediately knew that he killed his family. And he looked so relieved to be rid of them. Disgusting.
It has always reminded me of the feeling I had when I was little and I saw that damn Susan Smith video pleading for her kids she murdered to be returned to her...just that vibe that you are watching someone fake fear and concern and the only reason a parent would have to fake that emotion in a situation where their kids are missing is if they already know where the kids are...
It's likely one of those incidents of "Duper's Delight" where the liar takes joy in thinking they successfully are duping people. He probably thought he was doing such a good job lying and putting on his act that he just couldn't help himself but to smile.
The first thing I saw (even before I found out he killed her) was the video of her telling him she was pregnant with #3. I was so confused at his lack of excitement. I wondered if it was someone else’s pregnancy test bc he was so emotionally flat in that moment.
@@RebaMedia thats not exactly how it works, its subconscious
@@erinkinsella91 I didn't say it wasn't subconscious? That's why I said "he couldn't help but to smile", because you're subconsciously smiling. People don't intentionally smile while pretending to care about their family they murdered.
I absolutely believe his mistress helped him.
So do I
I just hope one day we can get straight answers instead of his lying lying mouth or his nutty mother I see where he gets it from
I get the feeling she probs told him like "you have to get rid of them, they're ruining this for us" etc and he took that to mean "take their lives" or something like that
I do too but the police were so intent on providing Chris did the crime they overlooked her involvement and then as time passed they didn’t want to show themselves for being incompetent so they just let it slide. It’s upsetting to know that she got away with it.
No . I don’t think so…
If she helped him, she would sit behind Bars right now…
She was acquitted from wrong doings…
You had me cracking up as you describe these horrendous murders….Something so sad, but you made it very enjoyable to watch!! RIP Nicole, Cc , Nico and Bella
THANK YOU! for letting people know they do NOT have to wait 24 hrs. Some TV shows keep saying its required and it ticks me off and results in precious lost time.
That really hit home for me. "They're afraid of the power that *you* have." They must have all the control, and are terrified and can't allow any loss of control, because they're terrified of what would happen as soon as you regain any amount of power, because you're actually THAT powerful, it petrifies them. That was just really inspiring.
He is such an unfeeling psychopath it never even occurred to him that someone would notice her absense so quickly because HE wouldn't notice her.
He is the worst kind of narcissist.
What bothers me so much is that he drove with the girls to where he would bury her. Their dead mother was on the floor of the truck beneath their feet. How scared were those babies?
May we all find a bestie like Nicole! She kept Chris from destroying more evidence and is the reason we know something was wrong so quickly!
right!!! +1, she is literally empathetic and smart she destroyed chris i like her for that
Nicole was a true hero here with how fast she acted, but I think the other male neighbor (don't know his name) really got the police interested in Chris. The guy with the home security footage, immediately offering it to the police to view, and noting that Chris was acting super odd and uncharacteristic, that something was majorly off with him. Both of them are the reason why this case was solved in the time it was.
She is a hero! I wonder if she knew in her gut that something was not right with Chris!
A GOOD KAREN !!
Ive been obsessed with this case for years. She knew what he did and she may not have physically helped but she encouraged him. She called a drug rehab center right before Chris attempted to OD Shanann with Oxys in North Carolina. She wanted to know how much of the drug it would take to make a person miscarry and/or pass away
Where did you hear about that??
That is so messed up
@@TourettesMajestic I'm pretty sure it's in the discovery
@@Keep_it_up_Cutie WHOA… really?! I HATE her & her fake “poor, innocent, victim me” facade!! That woman should be in PRISON or 6ft under… EVIL is what she is!!
I read the discovery too and think she was culpable in some form. I definitely think there's evidence to support she was aware of the plan, not sure why they never prosecuted her, weirdly I think it's because CW protected her and said she didn't know anything. Cell phone records and different inquiries she made and googled suggests otherwise though.
When I first saw the video of him finding out about the baby always gave me a weird feeling.. like awkward .. I could tell immediately he wasn’t happy about it.. every time my husband and I waited for a pregnancy test we were both holding each other and crying when we found out.. he held me so close and so sweetly.. he has never hugged me like the two times we found out we were pregnant
That’s so lovely
SAME FEELING. He was not happy about the baby AT ALL. He sounded like a kid when he gets socks for Christmas
@@akashijamoka and knowing what we know about shannan and woman in general I’m betting that that wasn’t a first take… I bet he had to do it a few times which means this was the best take she could get and that’s so sad! What an asshole pos! I hope they are at peace wherever we go after this life
He knew she RECORDED everything because of the MLM she was in so he put on a show but if you listen you can definitely hear that he was not happy.
He just acted the way she wanted him to act…its as if he acted how others want him,to act or something..he seems so immature and just flat emotionally….odd
I discovered this channel a couple weeks ago and I want to say thank you to swoop for the level of effort and hard work she puts into these videos .. officially signing up for Petty University spring classes 😂😂😂. This intro gave me chills
Narcissists are never ever wrong. They're the victim always no matter what
The describes SW to the tee.
My mother also...
True. My mother was narcissistic.
I couldn’t help but cry a little bit at 11:00. That little moment of joy she shared with her daughters, watching them dance and turning the music up a little more just to make the moment a little sweeter. Heartbreaking.
It was so precious. She told Alexa to turn the music up. I wish those little girls could’ve lived longer to be able think back on those moments with their mother and sister. So sick he couldn’t just let them be.
She and the girls were such bright spirits. What he did in the final moments with his daughters is the stuff of horror movies.
His body language was screaming his guilt. On his porch, at the neighbor's seeing the video of his guilt. I knew he had done.
@@wendybutler1681 same
1:08:56 Swoop you make me tear up every time you do reminders / disclosures like this.
I hold so much love for you for doing this nearly every time IPV/SA is brought up. ❤
Growing up in the same neighborhood as this murder, it haunts me to think about how such a seemingly happy family could be destroyed in seconds
"Seemingly" is the key word here.
How you managed to cover this unimaginably horrific case not just with compassion, but actual humour in places is a testament to your communication skills. The bit about just getting a damn divorce cracked me up.
I really feel for Nicole.. you can tell she really cared about how Shannan and the girls. She was not going to rest until they were found! I can’t imagine how painful it must have been to find out that her best friend died in such a horrible way 😭
It appears a lot of people fell for NK's whiney voice, dramatically bad acting, inconsistencies and lies. She had no concern for Shannon and her girls, none! Her only concern was for herself.
She's a manipulator, and is good at playing people.
One day we'll see a tell-all book about her antics with CW.
@@faithcastillo9597oh I think they meant Nicole the friend not NK,,
Ppl get so hateful,,,,geeeez….just be kind
@@faithcastillo9597 I was talking about Nicole, the best friend .. not the mistress :/
Yeah my heart almost dropped when I read this comment, till I realized her bf name is Nicole. I hate that her bf and his nasty mistress have the same name.
Thank you for presenting an objective narrative of lovely Shan’ann, Bella, CeCe and baby Nico. May there be complete Justice for the tragically departed🙏✨
THANK YOU for saying there is no requirement to wait *any* length of time to report a missing person! I work with law enforcement, and tv & films perpetuating this dangerous myth is so frustrating!
So I looked this up and it doesn't appear there's a single state in the USA that does have a waiting period to report someone missing, but this isn't a federal law (meaning a state could choose to change this if they wanted to for some unknown reason)
But it is against federal law for a state to impose a waiting period to report someone under the age of 21 missing (Suzanne's Law expanded this from 18 to 21 for Suzanne Lyall who went missing when she was 19)
Just thought that was interesting
Hay do you know Detective Joe Kenda?
Certainly in Australia it is the same , but for reasons l don't understand police definitely will tell you that you have to wait 24.hrs before they will act on the information. I would hope if it was a child involved no police force anywhere would require you to wait.
Wasn’t it a requirement for adults in the past though? Police would wait 24 hours before investigating ?
My ex beat me immensely - broken nose, jaw, eye socket, ribs, beaten with a baseball bat, held at gun point, the list goes on and on, and honestly, the worst was how he strangled me. He was almost impossible to get away from - I picked up and moved back to my parents house which was 1100 miles from where I was living. The PTSD from all of it is horrible and I still can feel and remember exactly how it felt to be strangled. I felt the life draining from me and I can't shake it. It's so important for people to hear about stories like these and stories from victims themselves. There are ways out, always, no matter what.
bless you, I had an abusive husband but fortunately for me I got some good advice early on and got away before he really got going on the abuse.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I went through similar circumstances when I was really young (18). I'm now 40 and it still effects me. But, I use those feelings for good and look how far I've come! Bless you and all you accomplish
My favorite thing is that Chris did not get ONE MOMENT of peace in between what he did to his family and Shannans friend immediately showing up to bring the reckoning down. Shannan was clearly deeply loved, known, and cared for.
I didn’t know what abuse was until my first serious boyfriend and he did all those controlling things to distance me from family. And I haven’t been the same since. So glad I got out tho! Thanks for sharing your story!
Tu jefe are so many of us. I’m glad to have socials so we can all come out and start talking openly about it.
Both men and women can be shitty, but it's men who are a real physical threat when they get pissed off and jealous and controlling. They are just dumb or very simple, I hope you both find a cool guy and can experience love in a fun and safe way.
I don't see connection with this case.
The police didn't just stop investigating Nikki, they never started. They listed her as a protected witness from the beginning. It was (I believe) the FBI who said she should be looked into further, but the police did not and discounted it. She lied and changed her story so many times, any investigator worth their worth would have had alarm bells going off every second.
On one of the tv specials after he was convicted Tammy Lee (who did the polygraph) was interviewed. She said she was surprised when the entire investigation ceased once he confessed and specifically stated that she didn't think they were done investigating.
Nothing will ever convince me NK didn't know more about what happened, or that she was only seeing him for a couple of months. No WAY.
Even her BS about deleting all their messages that even law enforcement swallowed - who the hell deletes every conversation they had with a man whose wife and children are MISSING, no matter how mad they are at him.
It is beyond ridiculous. Had Nikki not been involved, I have no doubt this would not have happened. Even if Chris cheated with another, it was Nikki that fueled him to this point. If she was not legally granted immunity, she should be looked at again. She is not one society needs to take advice from and the thought that she is out there counseling people is terrifying.
Esa amante de medio pelo (nk) tenía y sabía todo, todo!! Utilizó su sexual forma de ser para cegar al FBI, es perversa y manipuladora, la actuación fué dramaticamente conseguida y su padre con ella, cuando seguramente debe saber como es su hija.
Tanto drama de cara a la policia diciendo cuanto odiaba a CW y resulta que ahora le visita en prisión, eso sí, con otro nombre. Es surrealista !! Creo que sus influencias o contactos deben ser muy importantes, para que no esté pagando por ser partícipe del crimen de S.B.C.and N.
Un verdadero escándalo para mí, sinceramente, y encima dejan que a CW le llegue correspondencia de admiradoras ( perturbadas como él ) que lo idolatran. El mundo está desnaturalizado y loco, cada vez el diablo gana más terreno.🤬
A NK le convino que CW se declarara culpable de los 3 asesinatos y eso provocó que ya no la investigarán a ella.
Criss la protegió y no sabía que un día antes NK ya había acudido ella misma a "platicar" con la policia
@IrisLl.c Agreed. Very convenient. I don't know that Chris would have turned on her either way due to guilt and NK love bombing him. He probably thought she would stick around while he was in prison