Prop: Shop - How to Make a Vacuum Forming Machine
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- Bill shows you how to quickly make a vacuum forming machine from cheap hardware store supplies.
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Aluminum Solid Angle 1/16" x 1/2" x 1/2"
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Nuts
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Styrene Plastic
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Check out our NEW tutorial for making a BIG Vacuum Form table using materials from the hardware store: th-cam.com/video/O790OvRy1rc/w-d-xo.html
These are really helpful videos you guys are awesome but I really am having a hard time finding the plastic bars I see people using to hold a two-part vacuum mold together in order to make things like candles. Is there a place you might recommend?
Made one... great stuff. I found that the sheets sold for the makyu form box are perfect for a 21cmx21cm frame and the plastic is nice...$40 for 30 pieces 2 day shipping
Hi i was just wondering what were the dimensions you used for the vacuum former box? Was the size decided by the inside dimensions of the toaster oven?
Lol, since my son watched your tutorial and built his own vac former all of my sheet stock vanished!!.....he has turned it into Poke Balls:) ........Thank you!!......I think ;) Wonderful tutorial!!
I just wanted to say thank you so much for, putting out these videos. I am pretty new to casting and vacuum forming. it's nice to have a visual guide to these techniques. it makes it seem like way less of a daunting task.
Amazing, great quality,interesting ideas,clear speach, accurate tips, inspiring as hell,thanks for making this)
Dude you are awesome ! thank you for all your techniques ! And thank you for your good mood, it's always a pleasure to see your videos !
Always like workshops that ACTUALLY look like people work in em! Cool vid too!
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Then you'd love mine 😂 😅😅
I'm very glad to find your channel. I was watching you and Adam Savage build a foam gauntlet. So I came over to Punished Props Academy to look around. I liked what I saw so I stayed around by subscribing.
That's great, thanks for subscribing!
I've used a many a commercial Thermoformer to make big things back in the "real world", this is a great way to make your own. Well done sir!
6 second intro, perfect! Thx for being smart!
I have that same bourbon st. sign in my painting room..... great video. thanks!
I really love this video, planning on starting to make vacuum formed hockey masks soon! 8 years later and this video gives all the best info on how to make them, Thank you for this info punishedprops! I'll be having fun following these steps and making my own forming machine,
Really enjoy clear informative tutorials like this. Great links in description and simple instructions. Really look forward to trying it out.
Great clip..I need to make one for the canopy of the model aircraft. ..Will copy it one for sure!!
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome tutorial and excellent presentation. I really appreciate your style and down to earth personality.
This was super helpful! I'll definitely be making one, thanks!!
Thank you for listing all of the material links. 👍
Just stumbled across this video from prop shop. Just the ticket for my modelling needs, I found it informative and an easy to achieve project. Cheers mate.
Right on! We're so happy you found the video helpful!
also noticed the Khorne berzerker on your pc background at 4:54. building chaos armour is the exact reason I'm looking at making a vacuuformer! great video +40k awesome points.
Thanks for posting this, Bill. This pushed me to get back into Kydex holster making. Have you seen the use of a silicone membrane to place on top in a frame to get even more detail? Another technique is placing a piece of rope in a circle around the item, helps create an even tighter vacuum apparently.
yeoow!!!! that was way cool! always thought i'd need a big framework and all that other stuff.. this is so compact and easy to make ......love it!! gotta do it ..thanks!!
The rubber sanding block was neat! Thank you for sharing this with us.
You're so welcome! Thanks for watching!
@@punishedprops what is the thickness of the PETG that you’re using for this tutorial?
Very cool! Definitely building one soon, however I am curious, if you scale it up do you have to worry about loss of suction power at all and if so, how do you compensate?
New subscriber- loving your channel! I think this little vacuum former would work well for the kydex projects I'm planning on- thanks for the info!
LOVE your videos, and your books are great also. Make some more!
This just gave me a great idea for a small sanding or drilling table, with the vacuumed area catching all the dust Ect... Tired of my workshop shelves having 1/8th of dust every month.. No need for the Vacuum Forming, but I guess it’s there if I do...
Thanks....👍👍LEBIII
Sweet.....finally I can make my own things now..!! thanx dude..!!
I know this video is old, but it's clear, concise, not very long. I really appreciate it. If you're still watching the comments, do you need any kind of mold release? What keeps the vacuum formed plastic from sticking to the buck? Also, how thick should the plastic be?
A powder can help the plastic release from the buck. Here's a time stamp of us showing the process on a newer project: th-cam.com/video/K8zeGIRcmUw/w-d-xo.html
Great tutorial Bill! I can't wait for the tutorial on how to make a buck to vacuuform.
excellent video, just what I was looking for, thanks for sharing, greetings from mexico city
Hydrastone works well as a plug/buck too. The last 50 lb bag I got was about $30. Works like Plaster of Paris but is much harder and dries without cracking.
This is awesome! Thank you for sharing!
Having done vacuum forming before (4' x 8' sheets) I really appreciate your video. I'm really looking forward to doing some small projects at home.
Thanks for the inspiration!😉👍
Thanks very much, we're so happy to help!
Cool! Thanks for the video. I'm going to do this.
Super easy! Thanks for the vid!
Amazing work
I had an idea like this only I over complicated things, thanks this is a good reference
JUST PICKED UP A FEW OF THE BOOKS CANT WAIT TO READ THEM
I would have made the frame to fit the width of the oven so you don't need the pan. Also for shapes that are glossy, sometimes it is good to use a velvet coating so wrinkles don't form. It makes a smooth matte finish that hides tiny imperfections. Also a list of melting temperatures for the plastics and an IR thermometer can be handy.
This is a really good idea thanks! I have a bunch of poly carbonate we will se how it goes!
Nice video I shall be trying to form my own 1mm -2mm clamshell packaging for my start up business ill use petg, hope it picks out the small detail
Hi, very helpful video. I am new to vacuum forming and I'm having a hard time finding where to buy the plastic sheets (preferable ldpe) or the least toxic and most transparent. I will be using resin so also something that will release the cured resin. Any suggestions on where to buy?
Awesome Tutorial!
looks like a nice way to make tool box drawer liners, so you can tell what's missing
I've wanted to learn to do this for so long for mold making! What type of plastic do you recommend for vacuforming molds that will be used with resin?
Just exactly what I needed to know to make clear canopies for model aircraft.
The expensive or hard thing to get will be a toaster.
What about a hot air gun?
Will that work?
Thank you greatly for the video.
Stayed for the content, subbed for the N7 gear 👍🏻
Thanks so much for your support!
really cool videos cant wait to get back home and start doing my own cosplay. not as big in Australia but still will be fun :) keep up the great work mate ;)
What kinds of plastics are the best to work with with a vacu-former? What are the advantages/disadvantages for each one?
Once you make a vacuum press…Can you please share how you remove the vacuum formed material from the mold without destroying it? Thanks
Props for using the Dragon Priest mask footage! Which one was that?
Great video, Bill!
I love the Mass Effect Hoodie!!
Whats the best cheapest way of mass producing polycarbonate covers?
Thanks!
This is great! Question... How to calculate the ratio for the material for a piece that is about 20"x20" x 8" How big has to be frame. It is to high to vac form?
Thanx PP, this was informative...and useful.
You're very welcome!
so much help, thanks bill :)
Super cool! I'll try to build my own!
Heck yeah! Share what you make with us on Twitter: twitter.com/chinbeard
Incrível. Bom trabalho mano
"nuts and bolts" (not screws) for the metal frame (in case someone is making a shopping list) -- though his link in the description clarifies that
Thank you very much for sharing. I have a different question though. Where do you get driving belts for your belt sander? I could only find belts for 3D printers which cannot bear the load.
I honestly don't remember off the top of my head, but probably Amazon
Your guide has made me realize that making your own vacuum former isn't a scary, impossible task. I'm going to make one myself but would like to know what to look for in the vacuum cleaner. Is power/wattage what matters? is a 2400 watt model better than a 1200 watt one?
David S the amount of air it moves is what is important
they need to really suck, that's all.
I can see a use for it to make a mold for fiberglass motorcycle parts, very useful to copy parts that can no longer be bought from the makers or even 2nd hand
Thanks for making this. I though I was going to have to buy an actual whole vacuum molding machine for this
Do not forget to use a release agent like talcum powder to help get the thing apart after it cools and shrinks onto your item you are trying to mold. just a dusting of it on the mold before you vac form it is enough and helps a lot.
Do you think you could 3D print some of those vacuum forming bucks? I know pla has a low melting temp but it should hold its form for long enough I would think to make the plastic case
This is awesome!
Very creative well done.
Thanks!
OMG, Frank Ippolito has a twin brother!
that was my reaction too...
Thank you, really enjoy and learn a lot
Great video! What plastic would you recommend for candle molds?
Hmm I'm not sure, that's not something I've ever done before
2:07 If you're more well-versed in prop making and stuff, I'd recommend that you use an old 3D resin printer tray. I had one for an outdated printer that I never use lying around and it worked great.
That's a very clever idea!
Thank you so much for this, do you think there is any recommended limitation in size for this? I would like to make something about 60x60x20 (cm).
Hi, thanks for this tutorial! How did you clamp the frame onto the toaster oven tray? I tried watching a few times but can’t figure it out. Thanks!
We used binder clips!
@@punishedprops thanks for the response, but how did you fit the clips inside the tray? Since the frame is separate? Thank you!
Thank you for this video and a great work❤️👌
You're so welcome, thanks for watching!
Great video thanks.
I had a question for you. I'm in the process of making 3D wall panels. I wanted to try building a vacuum forming box to make the panels. Which plastic would you recommend and why.
Again thanks for video. Before seeing your video, I was going to cast the panels. I'm hoping that this way will be easier and cheaper
We use PET-G the most often, but Styrene also works. I'd ask the folks at TAP plastic for advice, as they may have more experience than us: www.tapplastics.com/
Very nice, I haven't really thought of this small size. What thickness would you recommend for the styrene?
+granander Your ideal thickness is really dependent on what you want to do with it. For example 060 or 1/16th of an inch is the "Norm" and I wouldn't venture below that unless it were a shelf piece. "06" as it's called is used on everything from hallowen masks to storm trooper armor. If you're looking for some to play around with, I do sell it pre-cut and very reasonably priced. Should you find it suits your needs, here's the link: www.amazon.com/060-Styrene-Plastic-Sheet-PolyStyrene/dp/B017S4BEIM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448353879&sr=8-2&keywords=060+styrene
Thank very much & Happy Building!
I'm hoping you'll reply, but my first steps into this vacuforming game aren't working out like your results. I followed this build advice, but am hitting what I expect are noob mistakes. Some advice would be helpful. My first run ended up with a great 'sag' in the 0.5mm PETG, but major pleats in the material over the buck. Would that be due to too much melt or insufficient vacuum? Just needing your experience and opinion on that point. Second problem was, when using 0.75mm material (purportedly PETG, but I can't attest to the actual plastic; Ebay you know) while waiting for the 'sag', the material turned milk white, never sagged to the same extent, and then wouldn't even get close to forming over the buck. Temperature? Or my pulling too early due to the colour change? Does the rapidity of vacuum power make a difference?
hi there. Thanks for another great tutorial. What type of plastic are you using? How thick? Source? I'll be primarily vacuforming T-Visors for Mandalorian Helmets. TIA!
I'm gonna build this. I've always wanted to try vaccuforming (although I'm primarily interested in some of the "toxic" plastics like Polycarbonate, PVC and Acrylic glass, but I can always use a gasmask while working so it shouldn't be an issue).
A quick question though: when using the small box/table part do you experience an even amount of suction throughout the surface of the perforated table area? I'm thinking that it would be best to make the box as short as possible with the bottom and the top part as close together as physically possible to make the suction even?
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. I intended to build a table a little larger, but not by much though. Only a surface that can handle plastic sheets enough to make facemasks, since that is what I do the most.
If I do run into problems with uneven suction there are some things I could try though. One thing that came to mind watching you build it was milling out one or two circular grooves in the hole where the vacuum hose goes to and then insert some rubber o-rings of fitting size. That would help create a solid seal around the hose.
I'll start out with your basic design first and see what happens. :)
Btw, I looked at a video where Adam Savage demonstrated his large, professional vacuforming machine. I noticed that the heating elements at the top of the machine wasn't all that different from the heating coils of your average bread toaster. I wonder if it would be possible to build something similar by taking apart a couple of old toasters?
That way, one could make a heating area as large as they like and not be reliant on the size of whatever toaster you have on hand. :)
Seven Proxies how about using multiple vacuums?
Great video! I am wondering about materials that can be used for vacuum forming. For halo helmets they typically have amber or gold iridium visors, so if you bought a motorcycle helmet that was already tinted to the proper colour, would that work to be heated and molded?
I'm not sure if that would work.
No, it most likely wouldnt work. You can form then tint, or stack two cut visors. Visit 405th.com for more info
Def gonna try!
Can you use Eva foam as a template I'm working on symmetras proton gun and I want to use acrylic for the covering
This is fantastic
what is the suction power of the vacuum?
I'd very much like to see how the helmet was made for the costume at 7:16 because I want to make something like that for a project I have in mind.
I'm going to make me one of these, see if I could make it profitable to making molds for people? Thanks for the tutorial much appreciated.
Can you use vacuuming to mold around EVA foam props such as a pistol or a attachment like a Holographic scope all made from EVA foam?
EVA foam isn't rigid enough to use as a pattern for vacuum forming. It would compress under the pressure of the vacuum.
Can a "Heat Press" be used for PETG and other materials (If not, please advise on what you recommend for "larger sheets" 24"x30")?
Hi, i have been looking at how to make conrete leaves and i wonder if it would be possible to vacuum form leaves so i could just fill with concrete and use as a mould many times ?
When I was a kid, I had a Vac-U-Form Toy. It had a small heating element and a hand pump to create the vacuum. This is simply a homemade version of that toy.
Thanks for sharing!
Love the hoodie!
Great idea, thanks
And that old toaster oven doubles for powder coating bakes also!
Have you tried using worbla, or transparent worbla with the box? Or would the glue totally ruin everything.
Hi im wondering what kind of Peg board did you used? Is it the standard 6mm diameter holes with 1 inch spacing? Thanks for the videos, sources and references; very helpful.
We link to all the materials and tools used in the video in the description :)
@@punishedprops Oh my goodness how did i not notice that? Thanks for pointing out to my blind self.
I'll definitely be making one of these
the windshield for one of my planes came off mid flight, and they don't make them anymore
so time to make one
(cant make it by just folding sheet as it has extrusions)
rc plane, that is
I'm currently making my own machine based off this. What is the issue with using an oven also used for food? As I have limited space so was planning to use our main home oven for the heating.
For the actual box part would just a regular wooden box you have around with some holes in it work?
Hey man - Great vid! I’m only new to messing around with all this DIY plastic stuff and this really helps, seems so simple and obvious now I seen one but you don’t know until you know, huh!
One thing, if you don’t mind me hitting you up just real quick while I’ve thought of it - I’ve been using Thermoplastic Polypropylene Pellets just trying to mould out a few ideas and get a grasp of what can and can’t be done manually without a 3D printer (which I can’t afford or justify this early into this) and it’s been good. It has pros and cons, like all things but I want to move onto other types of plastics, even silicones and resins… Yes, sorry, I’m getting to my question LOL! - It seems important to give you a little background as to WHY I’m asking as I’m sure it will help your answer :)
No doubt there is a tonne of great info out there, only the trouble I’m finding is different people use different lingo or shorten or substitute identifying nouns (“rubber” instead of “silicon” for example) and this is amplified across different global locales, regions manners of speech etc. So it can be completely discombobulating to find out after 3 months that any two “foams” are NOT the same or perhaps ARE the same but one source called it “sponge” instead of “foam” and you see where I’m going despite that terribly broad example I’ve given! Haha!
So, please, if you wouldn’t mind chucking me a link to where I might acquire a small amount of what YOU know and refer to as “Styrene” here-in, I would be that much further ahead of the rest of the “Teaching Myself Class” than, well… Me.
(About the same as you used in your demonstration in this video would be approx. ideal)
(ebay, Ali, whats-the-other-ones… you know!)
CHEERS MAN - I’ll “blackmail” you with a sub-up promise if you can!! :) (not really, you can probs have it anyway haha!)
Check out the links in the video description! We acquire ours from Amazon.