I like the Camaro, but the SS is priced just under the ZL1. So why not stretch budget to get those extra 200 Horses? I think natural cars will come way down in price if the economy keeps heading down.
I don’t care how fast EVs are, a car like this will forever be a more engaging and enjoyable car to own and drive. The simple way the engine shakes the car and roars to life when you start it alone is all you have to understand for why EVs will never be as enjoyable. You could sit in this car in a parking lot idling and revving it and giggle like a schoolgirl.
I had a 2019 SS 1LE. It absolutely has the no lift shift option. It’s been out since the 6th Gen Camaro debuted. I believe it has to be over 5000 rpm to engage the programming to allow it. Always great content. Thank you.
@@iAdaptation I have two kids and was only expecting to have to transport one from school and ended up picking up both kids all the time. Traded it in February of 2020 for a New 2019 Golf R 7.5. Sorry for the excuses. I couldn’t keep putting my younger son in the back seat of the Camaro.
@@jshizzle2097 the whole reason I couldn’t get a C8 was the need for a back seat. My wife had a hard no on carrying a kid on the front seat and if child 2 comes need another seat. So i m keeping my 1le for a while but do have a DD for bad weather and such. Overall a very nice car and love the manual which I wouldn’t have gotten with Vette. Its a 22 2ss 1le in satin steel. No problem with a 4 year old on a booster seat.
@@al151 Great color combo. I wish I had the 2SS for the sensors and rearview mirror. My older son was 6’ at the time and my younger one was 5’4”. Not an ideal situation. Love the C8, but having a manual should be cherished. Be safe.
Couple things" this car does have no lift shift, you can change the interior lighting to 18 different colors, there is a setting for silent mode, the infotainment is slanted to prevent glare and you dont necessarily have to supercharge it to get more power. Headers, cam, E85, tune should get you around 600 (crank) all while keeping it naturally aspirated
@@885.0ELopez i m coming for a coyote, had ticking problem with the valves, swapped tranny fluid 4 times, mt82 was a nightmare, had the thud shake and noise shifting to first gear. No thank you. The car overall was not reliable. Maybe autos are better but the 1le with a tremec is similar performing to a mach 1, and paying 65 grand for one is just ridiculous. I currently drive a 22 2ss 1le with a manual as a track car. Boosted coyote is a ticking time bomb at least on the Camaro, LT4 is proven to be boosted reliable LT1. There is a reason why Ford never offered a factory boosted 5.0 except the aftermarket Roush division.
@@al151 u got a lemon 💀🤷🏻♂️everyone I know not once had a issue with any coyote 11-2022 auto or mt82 they all good u just broke it yourself u can’t drive
In May, I shipped the remaining 2021 Camaro SS just before the Camaro was discontinued in Korea. German cars are popular in Korea, and as an avid bmw fan, I have driven the m340i for over 2 years, and it is true that I had a preconceived notion about the Camaro. However, the Camaro, which I accidentally test drove, came as a shock to me, and was selected as the last naturally aspirated vehicle with an internal combustion engine, 8-cylinder engine, and shipped immediately. I've ridden about 2500km now and I think it's the best car for me in many ways. I enjoyed the video and thank you.
Coincidentally, just yesterday, I had the opportunity to drive my first Camaro SS with the six-speed manual. WHAT A COMPLETE RIOT!!! LOVED IT! I can only imagine how much better the 1LE is!
Dude it feels like it's nailed to the ground.... unless you want to cut the back tires loose on purpose. Really fun car but storage and room is Shiite, LoL. I'll live, hahaha, I got spoiled on stinking hatchbacks.
The difference is not night and day. The 1le is definitely stiffer around corners better steering input into corners and better grip in the back and the brakes bite a tad bit harder than the 1ss.
I love the camaro since childhood. But by the end i got a mustang convertible with pp1 package and manual. Because the fact is the stag is more practical and still you get tons of fun and joy driving it. With very cool features and most importantly the quiet mode for the exhaust at night 😉. Love your content Sam 👍🏻. I have a small suggestion Sam that I really wish to see in your roll race videos. I hope you do two ROLL RACES. one with automatic mode and the other one with the car on shifting paddle starting 2nd or third gear. I think it would show more details about the gear response with each car. 👍🏻
@@al151 i have to admit not the best transmission on the manual mustang. So far going well. But maybe i will try to find a good tremac to swap if i faced any issues.
Had mine 1SSLE 6spd for 2 years and now around 31000km, I got it for MSRP here in Canada which is worth every penny, and it was actually cheaper then the Mustang GT with performance PKG which I was originally considering.. I have been a JDM fan boy all my life and this is my first American V8, and I wish I have gotten one earlier instead of spending so much time, money and effort modifying JDMs.. Power of course is plenty and personally think its perfect for day to day use, its not too insane like the ZL1 or GT500.. Stock exhaust on the Camaro is insanely awesome, it screams, pops, bangs and it becomes all quiet and under the radar once the valve closes.. the shifter feel is amazing and super tight and easy to use.. the car cuts through corners like hot knife on butter and puts the power down easily with the fat fat tires... the clutch is very easy to use and with all that torque its difficult to stall lol... MPG kinda suck and takes a lot of expensive oil when changing fluids but hey gotta pay to play XD and when I drive it all that goes out the window lol..
It seems in a way that GM has treated the Camero like a red-headed step kid for the last nearly 50; year's. They don't want to quite make it too great as it may rob the new Corvette of it's thunder. To keep the price below the C8, GM just hangs on the Camero design. I really like the Camero, but the designer's should be cut loose to compete with their own C8. No it will not be the same, no it will not cost as much, but they can still do a better job designing it. I would like to see a flash back to the '69 Camero, with modern updates in design. Similar to what Ford did with the Stang. I love the fact it has kept the manual shift, I really like the souped up HP. Bring back the modern '69, and you have a monster.
GM did that with C7 and Camaro. The result is/was ZL1 1LE, which is just a little slower than C7 Z06 at most tracks, and is less expensive. Given the weight difference between the two, a Gen 5 Z/28 diet for ZL1 1LE would close or negate this performance gap. How many people bought a ZL1 1LE? Look at the Gen 5 Z/28, everyone wanted one until they hit the showroom floor and lingered until deep discounts. The problem is what most of us "wish" for is here now, only we don't realize it. Take for example Gen 6 SS 1LE, a much better car than frod can produce and on par with the german sports cars costing 2x or more. Yet people didn't rush to their Chevy dealer to buy one. The media (not youtube crap) mustnag vs SS 1LE tests have always had the Camaro prevail, yet they remain underappreciated. Why is that?
Nooo don’t advertise it lol I like keepin this car under the radar 😂 not too many folks know about this model and it’s such a rare and beautiful car to see my mom got one before me!! But I plan on getting one in the next couple years when my car is paid off
You are definitely spot on! Love this Camaro in this color,the stance is another reason I love this car! If this is the end for the Camaro it will be a sin & punishable by death to the responsible parties ( no threat actually intended,wink wink) if that should happen! Give it a makeover & bring back the IROC-Z version for added exposure & interest Chevy! C'mon you guys can't let this icon fade away again when Dodge & Ford are still going forward for now that is with more versions coming out! #teamchevy
The screen is tilted forward to eliminate glare from the rear window. May seem like a design flaw at first, but trust me, you'll greatly appreciate it when the sun is behind you at a lower angle.
@@Walkdthock I got a ton of discounts and didn't say yes to the first or second price they brought me. GM family discount, trade-in incentive, and then just old fashioned haggling. I traded in a 2021 LT1 Camaro that I paid 36k for last year and they gave me $37k for it on top of the trade incentive.
@@Walkdthock They have the same engine and transmissions. The LT1 is pretty barebones on everything else though. 1LE has wider and stickier tires, bigger brakes, magneride suspension, dual mode exhaust, e-LSD, more cooling, more down force from the splitter and spoiler, nicer racing seats, and the heads up display. If you get the 2SS version you get heated/cooled seats, better sound system, blind spot detection, and a couple other goodies I can't remember. I have the 1SS 1LE. The LT1 is great if you're on a budget and just want a nice big V8 engine to zip around in. Flooring it in the LT1 is just as fun as flooring it in the 1LE, altho you might have a better launch with the 1LE due to the tires. The 1LE has better looks and lots of track goodies and other luxuries, but if you only care about street performance you can't really beat the LT1 for the money. I loved the LT1 I had, but the SS 1LE I found was the exact one I wanted and it was local and I got a great deal on it and the trade-in. Good luck!
This is basically my car now, 6M and all. I wanted the best sports car for the money, and this is it. It was between this and a Grand Sport C7, but in the end i bought this new. I needed the back seat for the kid. Wife was adamant about no front seat for him. And then I would have to buy a GS used so who knows if it was clubbed, plus the interior on those vettes weren't as well/unique styled I think for better phrasing? Anyways, amazing car. Will likely keep it and when warranty is up just do a common NA 600whp build. Wanted all motor this time.
I bought a “Red Hot” (that’s the color, red) 2SS 1LE 6-speed last Monday and drove it from Michigan back to California. I’ve owned a Focus RS, Z06, Charger SRT, and other cool cars in recent years. I’m definitely thrilled with the car so far. Rapid Blue was my 2nd choice for color, but I think Ford did the color better with the Focus RS “Nitrous Blue”. I think red looks best on the SS 1LE, so that’s what I wanted most.
What is it with Mustang folks? The Camaro takes components from more expensive high performance cars (alpha chassis,corvette engine,magnetic suspension) and makes it affordable. Mustang seems to always need to catch up. Dark Horse, Coyote, Voodoo, Pp1,Pp2 why wait for a Mustang. I have a 2017 2SS 6sp. And to be honest I’m glad they will cancel it. This car will age well for performance oriented drivers.
Hell yeah dude badass car!! I just picked up a V6 Tacoma TRD 4x4 off-road 6-speed manual transmission! It doesn't have shit for options but that's just the way I like it less shit to go wrong down the 🛣️... Technology is great but it's expensive as fuck when it goes out
Thats how i feel about my 13 Tundra! Yea its old compared to new teucks. But still analog very simple and its decently built with a lift 35 inch tires and very stout rock sliders! 103,000 miles and zero issues. 5.7 3URFE Engine goes 500k!
@@fredwilliams7893 well Fred that's awesome I'm really happy to hear you have good luck with your truck and you enjoy it! I like the manual because super reliable but if you have a Toyota Tacoma transmission & you have it serviced every 60k it will last 1/2 of a million miles i bet np! If you took good care of your 🚛💨 2013 is not even that old imo, 100,000 mi on a Tacoma/Tundra is not shit!! Use good quality fluid like amsoil on your front diff rear diff transfer case have your transmission serviced and use OEM fluid, belts, hoses, spark plugs, coolant flush, basic bullshit that truck will last forever & to do all those services you're talking $650-850 & most of that is for the transmission/plugs & that shit will make your truck last a long time!
@@geefim2144 to be honest I don't know you'd have to ask Toyota that's just the way they built it. Maybe I figure because it's a manual transmission the person wanted a more basic truck besides that I have no idea. What do u think 🤔?
When it come's to older cars from 2012 and under I'll take a standard any day! But these new technology they come out with on the new auto transmission are a whole other level!
Faster isn't always more fun and the auto SS isn't that much faster than the m6 SS if at all from a roll. BTW, I used to own a manual camaro SS and ZL1 A10. I got bored with the auto in the ZL1 tbh. I found the SS more fun and engaging with the manual, and that was with the ZL1 of course being way faster.
I am currently trying to find a 2ss 1le for around 45-50k if anyone can help me because the ones I see are all automatics or Extremely high mileage, or they are salvage title please boys
Yep that was half the reason I didn’t buy one. The coffin case issue is criminal. The mustang with a different transmission is better. But as is I wouldn’t buy either anymore. If only you could get the Camaro drivetrain in a mustang package and you win.
@@TheLocalsOnlyPodcast If you could only get the Camaro drivetrain and chassis in a Camaro you win. Wait you can get that now. I win!!! But I did see the new mustnag and it looks a lot like Camaro SS 1LE... partial win? Sadly it has the inferior re-cycled s550 chassis so as long as you don't push hard during a track day you should be good... maybe.
Love the color but the front was not my style. A few months ago I hunted down a 2018 2SS for the exact looks I wanted and couldn’t be happier. 6th Gen Camaros are just incredible.
Actually GM performance cars had no-lift-shift since the Cobalt SS and CTS-V1 back in the early 2000s... they just didn't advertise it much until the new boosted Cadillacs. I'm not 100% sure what the minimum RPM you need to be at for the SS 1LE, but over 5500 is a safe bet. Also enabling rev-match extends the shift time. Actually, rev-match matches revs both up and down the gearbox - try enabling it and shifting slowly, you'll notice the revs won't fall less than necessary even when upshifting. For both features to work the clutch has to be fully depressed though, like pedal fully down to the floor.
I can’t believe that they let it into the people’s republic of Canada . I have a ZL1 6 speed. In Radiant Red Tintcoat . I love it . I don’t care about the mpg as it makes me smile like a TRUMP rally. This car is between a Mach 1 or Shelby 350 GTO and the Shelby get 500 . The Shelby cost more . Idk about the gt 350s
Not when you step up and try to compete with SS 1LE. What is a PP2 car going for? How about Mach1? Not lower priced. Also, how many of these mustnags are purchased as rental cars?
BULL 😂 have you seen the car market lately? You have used with 30-40k miles Camaros going for more than what they sold for brand new. Same with Mustangs. On average I see 15k markups on vehicles that should be 24-25k
So why not get a lt1 with the package for 20k less? Maybe 10k. Same engine same trans most of the time. The difference is the looks and the breaks. Dive it to Hennessy customs and they will blow you’re mind.
That paint color is sweet!! I just don't like the way the infotaiment is position and the vents..it looks odd...they should of redesign that awfull interior..deal breaker for me!
Is it plastic horn steering wheel? How many passengers can fit in it? Does it do rev matching options? How much?? 360 camera? Folding mirrors automatically?
I believe the new Mustang next year is going to be a game-changer. The engine alone is 480+ HP. Might be worth waiting for it and see what it offers. There this Dark Horse edition coming out as well.
Camaro ss 1le spec Dark Horse would be 65 grand plus in US. Question is will it be worth it? I don’t think so. Buy a Camaro ss 1le if you can for alot less before they are gone.
If the mach 1 was about the same price as this or maybe even a couple grand more the mach 1 would be the best bargain for the performance and looks but I agree as for now this is best bang for your buck.
That's true, but the Mach 1 is upwards of 60k and the SS 1LE is still faster, making the SS 1LE not only the faster car at the track, but the better bargain as well. It's surprising why they don't sell more.
@@al151 Yep. SS 1LE is as fast or faster than GT350/350R at all but the longest road courses where they are able to exploit the ~70HP advantage. And as you mentioned ford had to go to a better tire in an attempt to close the gap with the SS 1LE. Even if mach 1 was similar in price it still has an inferior chassis which is a handful when pushed hard. I've seen this trait in both mustnag and gt350 cars. During my last track day, a 2021 pp2 flipped and went to the scrap yard when the driver lost control in a high speed corner. The driver was shaken up but walked away. Why the frod guys think it is ok to cut corners on the chassis boggles my mind, especially when the cars are advertised as track capable/ready. For instance, mach1 comes with crap rear brakes and a TR3160 trans... for 60K +... really?
@@FL50ssp because they are gambling that hp is what ford guys want..just like dodge! They dont care if they are balanced and handle good..they just want street dominance..it seems to be working! Those things are everywhere!! Everybody and their moma has one!! Chevy pays attention to detail!
@@nextlevelup6810 Simply not true. The Mach 1 is 3 seconds better at VIR according to Road and Tracks lightning laps they do every year. And thats a slaughter. Mach 1 also does 12.1 in the 1/4 mile..the 1LE is 12.3. So get your facts straight.
@@someferarriguy7910 LOL hahahaha... do you actually believe the car that was tested at LL was stock and represents what you would buy from your local ford dealer? The same car that was faster than a GT350R? Ummm.... ringer car specially prepped for this test. As I have said before SS 1lE is as fast or faster than GT350/350R at all but the longest road courses like VIR, where they can exploit the HP advantage. At med and short road courses, it comes down to the driver who is faster. My experience has been the SS 1LE is faster than all of the pp1/2, boss and gt350 cars (both stock and modded) I have been on track with. The only exception to date was a NASA TT2 car on slicks and even then he had to push very hard to stay in front. SS 1LE is much more composed and confidence inspiring, which allows you to push harder and go faster. All of which I have on video to back up.
@@brandonUwanawich954 fully optioned? The ZL1 is an entirely different car. Different suspension, engine, transmission, front end, rear end, wing….etc etc.
It’s the best because it’s so underrated and you can easily get one for a good price. I ordered mine, an all decked out 2ss. For the price you can’t touch it. They will become a collectors car one day
@@ll.7927 I ordered a 23 black 2ss with some options on June 20th, my order was finally accepted on Oct 4th, and now I’m still waiting for it. Excited tho
I back my car, 21 SS 1LE, into a metal two car carport and I make sure to rev it up a few times as I back it in. I have no neighbors, so it's all good. Not really sure why mustang is killing the Camaro in sales TBH, other than it has a better cargo set up. But driving them both, I was immediately hooked on the torque and seat of the pants performance of the SS over the GT similarly priced. In fact I was able to get my 1LE with 4K miles around $5k less than a standard GT same year and miles, which worked out fine with me.
You can thank the media and social media for at least some of the poor sales. All the years of the talking heads proclaiming "you can't see out of it, and oh my the interior is so cheap...etc.". What I find ironic is these same talking heads were also saying things like... "the mustnag chassis is a mess, the car doesn't feel planted like the Camaro, the steering is vague, and hard to tell what the front and back of the car is doing, it is dangerous, not a track car...etc.". Net is Camaro lost the popularity contest even though GM/Chevy produced a superior product. Especially if you are a track rat, not even close there.
@GuyStuff77 that’s the only thing it’s got going for it. And once you correctly set your mirrors, you won’t even notice. Only time there an issue is getting sonic drinks lol 😂
These are FANTASTIC cars. I was originally shopping for late C6s-Early C7s. My mind was blown when I drove my 17 2SS 6MT...I couldn't believe how quick it was, but also how comfy it could be. AT 6'4 280 Far more comfortable for me than the Vette. The thing will EAT highway miles, all while getting 28-32mpg. The seats are sooo comfortable. And with the MagRide, it is butter smooth. Put it in Track and its on RAILS. Mine isn't even the 1LE! Has EVERY other option however. Cannot believe these didn't get more attention. I cross-shopped GT Mustangs, as well as Q60RS...The Camaro was the best of both worlds to me. Interior is also very nice. The visibility does take some getting used to. But honestly, after a week, you're used to it. I experienced the same thing in my 2018 Titan, it was so much wider than anything I'd ever drove.
Which one is better ?? I've heard that the A10 spd is better on the chevy end of things . Im a mt-82 owner just added twin dual kevlar clutches and building it .It not as bad as people make it out to be say but it's definitely not amazing either .
@@Madmaxxxx1984 Hello Victor, the A10 was co developed by Ford and Chevy just tuned slightly differently. The automatic will always be faster, but it boils down to preference. I like manuals more, so if you were to drive a Mach 1, GT 350 or Camaro SS you would love the feel of the Tremec Transmission. They are fantastic, and it’s sad that the GT was not provided that. However, looks like you have done some nice mods to yours. If you want to help a fellow car lover please subscribe to my crappy channel. I promise it will get better lol.
It’s an under stressed platform. I love it too. Its unique in a sense that is has longevity proven Track record. See what I did there. 😆 It’s not effortlessly fast like an AMG C63S. You have to mean it! And I love that about this SS1LE as well. It’s a real crossroads type vehicle. Packed with technology yet setting free all fossil fuel dinosaurs remains. Can you hear the souls of all those buried creatures? Finally being given a worthy cremation!
One of my fav things about these Camaros is you have the option to have the exhaust on track mode at all times regardless of what mode you’re in. Btw, he is inaccurate about it not having the no lift shift
Its beyond a bargain because its simply about the CHASSIS, which is BEYOND current generation BMW M3/M4 cars and also better than the upcoming Mustang S650 chassis. Everything else can be modded, but for sports cars the chassis itself is paramount to making a REAL drivers car.
@Austin Mathias 🤣 nope my dealer told me I'm up next and they will know when it gets picked up by next Thursday. 🤞hopefully asap it's been over 7 months of waiting 🤣
If I wasn't a Corvette owner I would have a Camaro SS.
I was a 13 1ss owner loved it but got the opportunity to trade it in for my 19 vette gs. Both awsome cars
If I didn't own an 1LE I'd buy a vet.
I like the Camaro, but the SS is priced just under the ZL1. So why not stretch budget to get those extra 200 Horses? I think natural cars will come way down in price if the economy keeps heading down.
I wonder if these will retain their value well.
@@BrisLS1 the 2023 ZL1 msrp is $67k. That’s quite a bit more than a Camaro ss.
I don’t care how fast EVs are, a car like this will forever be a more engaging and enjoyable car to own and drive. The simple way the engine shakes the car and roars to life when you start it alone is all you have to understand for why EVs will never be as enjoyable. You could sit in this car in a parking lot idling and revving it and giggle like a schoolgirl.
So true the Ev’s are fast and everything but the can never replace the feel and sound of an American V8. Can’t even hold its lug …
I just bought one yesterday and you are absolutely right!
I had a 2019 SS 1LE. It absolutely has the no lift shift option. It’s been out since the 6th Gen Camaro debuted. I believe it has to be over 5000 rpm to engage the programming to allow it. Always great content. Thank you.
yes the 1le's and zl1's have had nls since 2017. the conditions for it are above 5k rpm and the gas has to be to the floor.
What did you end up switching to after the SS?
@@iAdaptation I have two kids and was only expecting to have to transport one from school and ended up picking up both kids all the time. Traded it in February of 2020 for a New 2019 Golf R 7.5. Sorry for the excuses. I couldn’t keep putting my younger son in the back seat of the Camaro.
@@jshizzle2097 the whole reason I couldn’t get a C8 was the need for a back seat. My wife had a hard no on carrying a kid on the front seat and if child 2 comes need another seat. So i m keeping my 1le for a while but do have a DD for bad weather and such. Overall a very nice car and love the manual which I wouldn’t have gotten with Vette. Its a 22 2ss 1le in satin steel. No problem with a 4 year old on a booster seat.
@@al151 Great color combo. I wish I had the 2SS for the sensors and rearview mirror. My older son was 6’ at the time and my younger one was 5’4”. Not an ideal situation. Love the C8, but having a manual should be cherished. Be safe.
Couple things" this car does have no lift shift, you can change the interior lighting to 18 different colors, there is a setting for silent mode, the infotainment is slanted to prevent glare and you dont necessarily have to supercharge it to get more power. Headers, cam, E85, tune should get you around 600 (crank) all while keeping it naturally aspirated
Meh …. stock motor coyote destroys it making 1000whp on stock motor and reliable and u care about changing your lights colors 😂💀ricer
@@885.0ELopez I wanna see you make a turn with out crashing with that power
@@3rdCoastCruiser. we race 1/4 miles not course tracks
@@885.0ELopez i m coming for a coyote, had ticking problem with the valves, swapped tranny fluid 4 times, mt82 was a nightmare, had the thud shake and noise shifting to first gear. No thank you. The car overall was not reliable. Maybe autos are better but the 1le with a tremec is similar performing to a mach 1, and paying 65 grand for one is just ridiculous. I currently drive a 22 2ss 1le with a manual as a track car. Boosted coyote is a ticking time bomb at least on the Camaro, LT4 is proven to be boosted reliable LT1. There is a reason why Ford never offered a factory boosted 5.0 except the aftermarket Roush division.
@@al151 u got a lemon 💀🤷🏻♂️everyone I know not once had a issue with any coyote 11-2022 auto or mt82 they all good u just broke it yourself u can’t drive
In May, I shipped the remaining 2021 Camaro SS just before the Camaro was discontinued in Korea. German cars are popular in Korea, and as an avid bmw fan, I have driven the m340i for over 2 years, and it is true that I had a preconceived notion about the Camaro. However, the Camaro, which I accidentally test drove, came as a shock to me, and was selected as the last naturally aspirated vehicle with an internal combustion engine, 8-cylinder engine, and shipped immediately. I've ridden about 2500km now and I think it's the best car for me in many ways. I enjoyed the video and thank you.
I'm sure it gets more attention than a BMW or Audi, especially in Korea. Excellent decision BTW :)
My brother just bought a widebody Challenger and I'm thinking about buying a 1LE in response..
Do it, you'll have a much better car than him. I daily my 2022 2SS 1LE 6M.
Coincidentally, just yesterday, I had the opportunity to drive my first Camaro SS with the six-speed manual. WHAT A COMPLETE RIOT!!! LOVED IT! I can only imagine how much better the 1LE is!
Dude it feels like it's nailed to the ground.... unless you want to cut the back tires loose on purpose. Really fun car but storage and room is Shiite, LoL. I'll live, hahaha, I got spoiled on stinking hatchbacks.
The difference is not night and day. The 1le is definitely stiffer around corners better steering input into corners and better grip in the back and the brakes bite a tad bit harder than the 1ss.
@@shayneconway1081i have a 1SS 1LE and I absolutely love it!
I love the camaro since childhood. But by the end i got a mustang convertible with pp1 package and manual. Because the fact is the stag is more practical and still you get tons of fun and joy driving it. With very cool features and most importantly the quiet mode for the exhaust at night 😉.
Love your content Sam 👍🏻.
I have a small suggestion Sam that I really wish to see in your roll race videos. I hope you do two ROLL RACES. one with automatic mode and the other one with the car on shifting paddle starting 2nd or third gear. I think it would show more details about the gear response with each car. 👍🏻
The Camaro has amazing npp lol
Coming from a mustang gt pp manual. Good luck with maintenance on the transmission.
@@al151 i have to admit not the best transmission on the manual mustang. So far going well. But maybe i will try to find a good tremac to swap if i faced any issues.
Had mine 1SSLE 6spd for 2 years and now around 31000km, I got it for MSRP here in Canada which is worth every penny, and it was actually cheaper then the Mustang GT with performance PKG which I was originally considering.. I have been a JDM fan boy all my life and this is my first American V8, and I wish I have gotten one earlier instead of spending so much time, money and effort modifying JDMs.. Power of course is plenty and personally think its perfect for day to day use, its not too insane like the ZL1 or GT500.. Stock exhaust on the Camaro is insanely awesome, it screams, pops, bangs and it becomes all quiet and under the radar once the valve closes.. the shifter feel is amazing and super tight and easy to use.. the car cuts through corners like hot knife on butter and puts the power down easily with the fat fat tires... the clutch is very easy to use and with all that torque its difficult to stall lol... MPG kinda suck and takes a lot of expensive oil when changing fluids but hey gotta pay to play XD and when I drive it all that goes out the window lol..
I took your advice and bought one in this exact spec, Rapid Blue 6MT. Can't wait to track it!
It seems in a way that GM has treated the Camero like a red-headed step kid for the last nearly 50; year's. They don't want to quite make it too great as it may rob the new Corvette of it's thunder. To keep the price below the C8, GM just hangs on the Camero design. I really like the Camero, but the designer's should be cut loose to compete with their own C8. No it will not be the same, no it will not cost as much, but they can still do a better job designing it. I would like to see a flash back to the '69 Camero, with modern updates in design. Similar to what Ford did with the Stang. I love the fact it has kept the manual shift, I really like the souped up HP. Bring back the modern '69, and you have a monster.
GM did that with C7 and Camaro. The result is/was ZL1 1LE, which is just a little slower than C7 Z06 at most tracks, and is less expensive. Given the weight difference between the two, a Gen 5 Z/28 diet for ZL1 1LE would close or negate this performance gap. How many people bought a ZL1 1LE? Look at the Gen 5 Z/28, everyone wanted one until they hit the showroom floor and lingered until deep discounts. The problem is what most of us "wish" for is here now, only we don't realize it. Take for example Gen 6 SS 1LE, a much better car than frod can produce and on par with the german sports cars costing 2x or more. Yet people didn't rush to their Chevy dealer to buy one. The media (not youtube crap) mustnag vs SS 1LE tests have always had the Camaro prevail, yet they remain underappreciated. Why is that?
Nooo don’t advertise it lol I like keepin this car under the radar 😂 not too many folks know about this model and it’s such a rare and beautiful car to see my mom got one before me!! But I plan on getting one in the next couple years when my car is paid off
My.dream car... of the world... v8 6speed manual camaro
If you go into settings then engine there is a silent mode it makes the exhaust alot quieter especially when you have it silent plus touring mode.
yep, it's called Stealth mode
You are definitely spot on! Love this Camaro in this color,the stance is another reason I love this car! If this is the end for the Camaro it will be a sin & punishable by death to the responsible parties ( no threat actually intended,wink wink) if that should happen! Give it a makeover & bring back the IROC-Z version for added exposure & interest Chevy! C'mon you guys can't let this icon fade away again when Dodge & Ford are still going forward for now that is with more versions coming out!
#teamchevy
The screen is tilted forward to eliminate glare from the rear window. May seem like a design flaw at first, but trust me, you'll greatly appreciate it when the sun is behind you at a lower angle.
i have a 2022 Zl1 10 speed auto and these 6th gen Camaros are great
hell yesh i love my 2021 camaro 2ss it’s my dream car💯
Great review Sam. I’m really itching to get my hands on one of these.
Picked up a brand new 22 SS 1LE in Rapid Blue with the 6 speed manual earlier this year for $44k. Phenomenal car and an amazing deal.
howd you get it at that price? woww!
@@Walkdthock I got a ton of discounts and didn't say yes to the first or second price they brought me. GM family discount, trade-in incentive, and then just old fashioned haggling. I traded in a 2021 LT1 Camaro that I paid 36k for last year and they gave me $37k for it on top of the trade incentive.
@@upcastdrake8460 oh wow that’s nice! Can you share your experience about the diffrrences between lt1 and 2ss 1le?
Im trying to get one but not sure if the difference with lt1 and ss1le is significant and worth it for the price difference.
@@Walkdthock They have the same engine and transmissions. The LT1 is pretty barebones on everything else though.
1LE has wider and stickier tires, bigger brakes, magneride suspension, dual mode exhaust, e-LSD, more cooling, more down force from the splitter and spoiler, nicer racing seats, and the heads up display.
If you get the 2SS version you get heated/cooled seats, better sound system, blind spot detection, and a couple other goodies I can't remember. I have the 1SS 1LE.
The LT1 is great if you're on a budget and just want a nice big V8 engine to zip around in. Flooring it in the LT1 is just as fun as flooring it in the 1LE, altho you might have a better launch with the 1LE due to the tires. The 1LE has better looks and lots of track goodies and other luxuries, but if you only care about street performance you can't really beat the LT1 for the money.
I loved the LT1 I had, but the SS 1LE I found was the exact one I wanted and it was local and I got a great deal on it and the trade-in.
Good luck!
I'm seriously considering a 2023 Camaro 1SS/1LE .... priced on out comes to about $49k US dollars ...
This is basically my car now, 6M and all. I wanted the best sports car for the money, and this is it. It was between this and a Grand Sport C7, but in the end i bought this new. I needed the back seat for the kid. Wife was adamant about no front seat for him. And then I would have to buy a GS used so who knows if it was clubbed, plus the interior on those vettes weren't as well/unique styled I think for better phrasing? Anyways, amazing car. Will likely keep it and when warranty is up just do a common NA 600whp build. Wanted all motor this time.
I have a 2022 LT1 V8, I pay $50 for premium at costco for a full tank! 😂 having a costco membership goes a long way with a muscle car!
What state you live in?
I bought a “Red Hot” (that’s the color, red) 2SS 1LE 6-speed last Monday and drove it from Michigan back to California. I’ve owned a Focus RS, Z06, Charger SRT, and other cool cars in recent years. I’m definitely thrilled with the car so far. Rapid Blue was my 2nd choice for color, but I think Ford did the color better with the Focus RS “Nitrous Blue”. I think red looks best on the SS 1LE, so that’s what I wanted most.
Nice how much did u get it for? Exact color I want. Red, black , and dark grey look best
@@ll.7927 a bit under $49K.
Love my SS 1LE. Wish I would have bought the ZL1 1LE
Very nice but brutally harsh ride.
IMHO wait for next years Mustang, finally a good interior in an American muscle car.
Brace for sticker shock. I'd expect $70K+ after dealer market ups.
With that freaking Huge Screen Dash...HELL NO...WTF was Ford thinking??
@@norm1815 I think it's a great blend of retromod exterior with futuristic interior. Was a bold move an personally I appreciate as will many others.
@@johnleto475 Best attribute... it looks a lot like Gen 6 Camaro SS 1LE.
What is it with Mustang folks? The Camaro takes components from more expensive high performance cars (alpha chassis,corvette engine,magnetic suspension) and makes it affordable. Mustang seems to always need to catch up. Dark Horse, Coyote, Voodoo, Pp1,Pp2 why wait for a Mustang. I have a 2017 2SS 6sp. And to be honest I’m glad they will cancel it. This car will age well for performance oriented drivers.
So you recorded a video of the exhaust sound from the front of the car good going sam
Man I love that color! Putting my order in this week
Got mine. 🔥🔥🔥
Lucky guy
I think they put the phone charging area towards the back so you're not distracted by it.
I have the 1SS1LE(22) with the manual and yes this car is an absolute blast to drive!!! I'm a Camaro nut anyway, I'm on my third Camaro😁
Hell yeah dude badass car!! I just picked up a V6 Tacoma TRD 4x4 off-road 6-speed manual transmission! It doesn't have shit for options but that's just the way I like it less shit to go wrong down the 🛣️... Technology is great but it's expensive as fuck when it goes out
Thats how i feel about my 13 Tundra! Yea its old compared to new teucks. But still analog very simple and its decently built with a lift 35 inch tires and very stout rock sliders! 103,000 miles and zero issues. 5.7 3URFE Engine goes 500k!
@@fredwilliams7893 well Fred that's awesome I'm really happy to hear you have good luck with your truck and you enjoy it! I like the manual because super reliable but if you have a Toyota Tacoma transmission & you have it serviced every 60k it will last 1/2 of a million miles i bet np! If you took good care of your 🚛💨 2013 is not even that old imo, 100,000 mi on a Tacoma/Tundra is not shit!! Use good quality fluid like amsoil on your front diff rear diff transfer case have your transmission serviced and use OEM fluid, belts, hoses, spark plugs, coolant flush, basic bullshit that truck will last forever & to do all those services you're talking $650-850 & most of that is for the transmission/plugs & that shit will make your truck last a long time!
@@honda116969 Yep! 👍
Why doesn’t it have options ?
@@geefim2144 to be honest I don't know you'd have to ask Toyota that's just the way they built it. Maybe I figure because it's a manual transmission the person wanted a more basic truck besides that I have no idea. What do u think 🤔?
This Camaro DOES have Rev-match. Camaro SS have had the feature for 5 years now
You can go into “vehicle settings” on the center screen and put the exhaust on “stealth mode”.
Good to know
It’s a lot of car for the money. Picked mine up last month,same thing but 10 spd auto with sunroof.
Love your videos,keep them coming!
I rather have the automatic version, faster and better.
The 10 speed is perfect
Manual is not for everyone that’s for sure. It is lots of work instead of just hitting the gas pedal and the car does all the work for you.
When it come's to older cars from 2012 and under I'll take a standard any day! But these new technology they come out with on the new auto transmission are a whole other level!
@@quakerome4594 its the feel and actually shifting is the reward of a manual...et's are not the concern here.
Faster isn't always more fun and the auto SS isn't that much faster than the m6 SS if at all from a roll.
BTW, I used to own a manual camaro SS and ZL1 A10. I got bored with the auto in the ZL1 tbh. I found the SS more fun and engaging with the manual, and that was with the ZL1 of course being way faster.
I have the same car in satin steel and it does come with no lift shift standard
Honestly, where can I find the twinturbo package? Have found a lot times but all of them are not looking realiable
I am currently trying to find a 2ss 1le for around 45-50k if anyone can help me because the ones I see are all automatics or
Extremely high mileage, or they are salvage title please boys
Why is it not best for daily ?
Number 1 complaint of a Camaro:
Visibility.
Yep that was half the reason I didn’t buy one. The coffin case issue is criminal. The mustang with a different transmission is better. But as is I wouldn’t buy either anymore.
If only you could get the Camaro drivetrain in a mustang package and you win.
@@TheLocalsOnlyPodcast If you could only get the Camaro drivetrain and chassis in a Camaro you win. Wait you can get that now. I win!!! But I did see the new mustnag and it looks a lot like Camaro SS 1LE... partial win? Sadly it has the inferior re-cycled s550 chassis so as long as you don't push hard during a track day you should be good... maybe.
Love the color but the front was not my style. A few months ago I hunted down a 2018 2SS for the exact looks I wanted and couldn’t be happier. 6th Gen Camaros are just incredible.
Love my 2017
Actually GM performance cars had no-lift-shift since the Cobalt SS and CTS-V1 back in the early 2000s... they just didn't advertise it much until the new boosted Cadillacs. I'm not 100% sure what the minimum RPM you need to be at for the SS 1LE, but over 5500 is a safe bet. Also enabling rev-match extends the shift time. Actually, rev-match matches revs both up and down the gearbox - try enabling it and shifting slowly, you'll notice the revs won't fall less than necessary even when upshifting. For both features to work the clutch has to be fully depressed though, like pedal fully down to the floor.
Crazy the 1le doesn't have the no lift shift option.. my 2019 1ss has no lift shift.
1 LE cars (all of them) have NLS. Not sure why this myth still persists... other than internet bs.
Told you so Sam
Your welcome
Mean Machine for sure!!! Do you love to the point of getting it?🤜🤛
100%
I can’t believe that they let it into the people’s republic of Canada . I have a ZL1 6 speed. In Radiant Red Tintcoat . I love it . I don’t care about the mpg as it makes me smile like a TRUMP rally. This car is between a Mach 1 or Shelby 350 GTO and the Shelby get 500 . The Shelby cost more . Idk about the gt 350s
They don’t sell this one in the Socialist Republic Of Divided States of America?
@@SamCarLegion lol. After 24 no more zl1 . America liberals want us all to drive electric cars
The mustang is priced lower that’s why more people buy it
Not when you step up and try to compete with SS 1LE. What is a PP2 car going for? How about Mach1? Not lower priced. Also, how many of these mustnags are purchased as rental cars?
It does come with no lift shift...
If only you could see out of the thing.. I would get it
I love those rims
I’m 100 percent in agreement on this one. It’s crazy because I’m in 100 percent disagreement on the 2022 BRZ.
That’s the beauty of respecting and accepting different opinions :)
It’s democracy
The Zl1 is supercharged straight from Chevy.650 hp and 650 pound feet of torque
The 1SS is around $35k.
BULL 😂 have you seen the car market lately? You have used with 30-40k miles Camaros going for more than what they sold for brand new. Same with Mustangs. On average I see 15k markups on vehicles that should be 24-25k
@@Sneaky5.sl0w. you'll have to shop around and deal. Maybe get one from out of state. And definitely don't buy a used car.
2016-18 Camaros look the best, Change my mind.
So why not get a lt1 with the package for 20k less? Maybe 10k. Same engine same trans most of the time. The difference is the looks and the breaks. Dive it to Hennessy customs and they will blow you’re mind.
Lol read that spray paint on the ground.
😂😂😂😂
That paint color is sweet!! I just don't like the way the infotaiment is position and the vents..it looks odd...they should of redesign that awfull interior..deal breaker for me!
Your comment about the neighbors... It seems that this is where society is going. F the neighbors, it is all about me. I don't agree.
Is it plastic horn steering wheel? How many passengers can fit in it? Does it do rev matching options? How much?? 360 camera? Folding mirrors automatically?
Is Google broken?
If they only came in hugger orange with white interior.
First like at 19:50 Harare TZ 13.09.22
Badass car🔥🔥🔥
Collectable.
Highly
Anyone noticed the F word on ground lol @3:01
😂😂😂
How does it compare to the 1SS 1LE?
its the same exact thing minus a few options (bose stereo, rearview mirror camera, interior lighting, cooled seats. wireless charging)
Visabilty is horrible
5 blind spots
Seats are terrible
No back support or bolstering
Yes a Daily
You are dreaming mate Mustang is a lot better car brilliant looking Mustang more horsepower better sound I think you should go back to the books
Haha you are funny do you even know what this ss 1le can do? Runs circle around a mustang. Best performance car for the money.
how does it compare to the Supra?
So much better than the supra
Rofsh!
@@klidijosifi7401 gjithe te mirat :)
My baby 🤗🫠
i got mine for 48k 1ss tho
I believe the new Mustang next year is going to be a game-changer. The engine alone is 480+ HP. Might be worth waiting for it and see what it offers. There this Dark Horse edition coming out as well.
I bet it's going to be $70k after dealer mark ups.
With that freaking Huge Screen Dash...HELL NO...WTF was Ford thinking??
Still no tremec 6 speed, if u want it u need to get the dark horse trim. And it’s trying to look like a camaro 😂
Camaro ss 1le spec Dark Horse would be 65 grand plus in US. Question is will it be worth it? I don’t think so. Buy a Camaro ss 1le if you can for alot less before they are gone.
With a recycled S550 chassis which is still not as good as GM Alpha... no thanks.
The ZL1 is still a better looking.
ZL1 is better, the hood, front grill and wing.
Yes, for $20k more.
Bitchin'
If the mach 1 was about the same price as this or maybe even a couple grand more the mach 1 would be the best bargain for the performance and looks but I agree as for now this is best bang for your buck.
That's true, but the Mach 1 is upwards of 60k and the SS 1LE is still faster, making the SS 1LE not only the faster car at the track, but the better bargain as well. It's surprising why they don't sell more.
On the same tire Camaro ss 1le is faster.
@@al151 Yep. SS 1LE is as fast or faster than GT350/350R at all but the longest road courses where they are able to exploit the ~70HP advantage. And as you mentioned ford had to go to a better tire in an attempt to close the gap with the SS 1LE. Even if mach 1 was similar in price it still has an inferior chassis which is a handful when pushed hard. I've seen this trait in both mustnag and gt350 cars. During my last track day, a 2021 pp2 flipped and went to the scrap yard when the driver lost control in a high speed corner. The driver was shaken up but walked away. Why the frod guys think it is ok to cut corners on the chassis boggles my mind, especially when the cars are advertised as track capable/ready. For instance, mach1 comes with crap rear brakes and a TR3160 trans... for 60K +... really?
@@FL50ssp because they are gambling that hp is what ford guys want..just like dodge! They dont care if they are balanced and handle good..they just want street dominance..it seems to be working! Those things are everywhere!! Everybody and their moma has one!! Chevy pays attention to detail!
What’s a tremec
The best manual transmission in my books.
Engine is the same one that is blowing up in vettes, pickups and blackwings
Love the SS 1LE.. but the Mach 1 will give it all it can handle. And prob beat the 1LE around the track.
The SS 1le beats the Mach 1 in a quarter mile and dominates it on track.
@@nextlevelup6810 Simply not true. The Mach 1 is 3 seconds better at VIR according to Road and Tracks lightning laps they do every year. And thats a slaughter. Mach 1 also does 12.1 in the 1/4 mile..the 1LE is 12.3. So get your facts straight.
And you’re comparing 2 cars that are more than $10,000 apart. Shows you how good of a bargain this car is.
@@someferarriguy7910 LOL hahahaha... do you actually believe the car that was tested at LL was stock and represents what you would buy from your local ford dealer? The same car that was faster than a GT350R? Ummm.... ringer car specially prepped for this test. As I have said before SS 1lE is as fast or faster than GT350/350R at all but the longest road courses like VIR, where they can exploit the HP advantage. At med and short road courses, it comes down to the driver who is faster. My experience has been the SS 1LE is faster than all of the pp1/2, boss and gt350 cars (both stock and modded) I have been on track with. The only exception to date was a NASA TT2 car on slicks and even then he had to push very hard to stay in front. SS 1LE is much more composed and confidence inspiring, which allows you to push harder and go faster. All of which I have on video to back up.
Probably, but you have to pay for it. $&&
I rather get supercharged mustang gt
I rather get supercharged Camaro
Nah, the DCT Moostangs are better...and i'm a push rod hemi guy for American makes lol
Only GT500 is a dct rest auto
Cool car! but prefer my 16 scat challenger with the wonderful tremec tr6060! 6 speed manual!
@@fredwilliams7893 Your 16 scat has a Tremec? 🤣
@@SamCarLegion Doesn't matter, those torque converter auto 10 speeds shift like Glass
@@rosun_official Tremec is the best! DCT is for amatures! Lol
That’s not a 1le that’s a normal 2ss
I with 1 LE package
@@SamCarLegion where’s the wing and front an side splitters and the 305s tires
You are thinking ZL1 with the 1LE package
@@1LE_Jeff ur right mine was fully optioned
@@brandonUwanawich954 fully optioned? The ZL1 is an entirely different car. Different suspension, engine, transmission, front end, rear end, wing….etc etc.
Horrible interior
No thanks. I don't like ugly cars.
U crazyv
How is that ugly?!
It’s the best because it’s so underrated and you can easily get one for a good price. I ordered mine, an all decked out 2ss. For the price you can’t touch it. They will become a collectors car one day
How much did u pay n what dealer. Every dealer around me wants 6-8k markup. N it’s like a 3-4 month wait to even get far lol
@@ll.7927 I ordered a 23 black 2ss with some options on June 20th, my order was finally accepted on Oct 4th, and now I’m still waiting for it. Excited tho
I rather get supercharged mustang gt
Too much cash
You can’t get a supercharged mustang Gt from the factory…are you talking Shelby gt500 which is twice the price as this 1LE?
I wish I could of bought a 1LE but my LT1 is a daily and was significantly cheaper.
LT1 is still a heckuva car and an even better value vs. performance option.
I daily my 1LE
@@infidel66687 Same
I back my car, 21 SS 1LE, into a metal two car carport and I make sure to rev it up a few times as I back it in. I have no neighbors, so it's all good. Not really sure why mustang is killing the Camaro in sales TBH, other than it has a better cargo set up. But driving them both, I was immediately hooked on the torque and seat of the pants performance of the SS over the GT similarly priced. In fact I was able to get my 1LE with 4K miles around $5k less than a standard GT same year and miles, which worked out fine with me.
I snagged my 21 SS 1LE for $44k with 10k miles. I test drove a new manual GT after the Camaro and immediately went back to the Chevy dealer.
You can thank the media and social media for at least some of the poor sales. All the years of the talking heads proclaiming "you can't see out of it, and oh my the interior is so cheap...etc.". What I find ironic is these same talking heads were also saying things like... "the mustnag chassis is a mess, the car doesn't feel planted like the Camaro, the steering is vague, and hard to tell what the front and back of the car is doing, it is dangerous, not a track car...etc.". Net is Camaro lost the popularity contest even though GM/Chevy produced a superior product. Especially if you are a track rat, not even close there.
"2 SS" damn that things a SSSS
😂😂😂
Nice, but I'm a Mustang 5.0 10 speed person.
Ss1le is better car them 5.0
@GuyStuff77 that’s the only thing it’s got going for it. And once you correctly set your mirrors, you won’t even notice. Only time there an issue is getting sonic drinks lol 😂
@@garzon19918 hell no
Sheesh!!!!!!!! I have a 2017 Camaro SS. time to upgrade I see. Love it.
Best bang for your buck 👏
These are FANTASTIC cars. I was originally shopping for late C6s-Early C7s. My mind was blown when I drove my 17 2SS 6MT...I couldn't believe how quick it was, but also how comfy it could be. AT 6'4 280 Far more comfortable for me than the Vette. The thing will EAT highway miles, all while getting 28-32mpg. The seats are sooo comfortable. And with the MagRide, it is butter smooth. Put it in Track and its on RAILS. Mine isn't even the 1LE! Has EVERY other option however. Cannot believe these didn't get more attention. I cross-shopped GT Mustangs, as well as Q60RS...The Camaro was the best of both worlds to me. Interior is also very nice. The visibility does take some getting used to. But honestly, after a week, you're used to it. I experienced the same thing in my 2018 Titan, it was so much wider than anything I'd ever drove.
mann-up...get a full-sizzes amer. truk!!!TITEN????...HILLARIOUS!!!!some people need a bakbone!!!!
Nice Video! This vehicle is on my radar for sure. The transmission on the SS is actually a different Tremec (TR-6060) than the Mach 1 Tremec(TR-3160).
Yes correct still tremec
Both better than the 6 speed MT-82 found on the GT haha
Which one is better ?? I've heard that the A10 spd is better on the chevy end of things . Im a mt-82 owner just added twin dual kevlar clutches and building it .It not as bad as people make it out to be say but it's definitely not amazing either .
@@Madmaxxxx1984 Hello Victor, the A10 was co developed by Ford and Chevy just tuned slightly differently. The automatic will always be faster, but it boils down to preference. I like manuals more, so if you were to drive a Mach 1, GT 350 or Camaro SS you would love the feel of the Tremec Transmission. They are fantastic, and it’s sad that the GT was not provided that. However, looks like you have done some nice mods to yours. If you want to help a fellow car lover please subscribe to my crappy channel. I promise it will get better lol.
It’s an under stressed platform. I love it too. Its unique in a sense that is has longevity proven Track record. See what I did there. 😆
It’s not effortlessly fast like an AMG C63S. You have to mean it! And I love that about this SS1LE as well.
It’s a real crossroads type vehicle. Packed with technology yet setting free all fossil fuel dinosaurs remains.
Can you hear the souls of all those buried creatures? Finally being given a worthy cremation!
One of my fav things about these Camaros is you have the option to have the exhaust on track mode at all times regardless of what mode you’re in. Btw, he is inaccurate about it not having the no lift shift
Its beyond a bargain because its simply about the CHASSIS, which is BEYOND current generation BMW M3/M4 cars and also better than the upcoming Mustang S650 chassis. Everything else can be modded, but for sports cars the chassis itself is paramount to making a REAL drivers car.
Mine is a 17' SS 6 speed. My perfect Daily Driver since bought new 69,000 miles ago.
I ordered a 2023 2ss 1le in rapid blue at 19 and I'm now playing the waiting game
Have you gotten it yet? Curious what the wait times are
@Austin Mathias 🤣 nope my dealer told me I'm up next and they will know when it gets picked up by next Thursday. 🤞hopefully asap it's been over 7 months of waiting 🤣
@@cdogtheman Jeez man, nuts