Funny if it was invented for the Patriots why was it invoked for the Jets against the Patriots and the Jets ended up winning that game. So tell me how can you invoke the rule earlier in the season if it was invented for that game against the Raiders? Are you seeing pink dumbos flying by flapping their ears?
If accusations were convictions that would make a lot more sense. But the accusations and only 2 convictions (Spygate 1.0 and 2.0) is all anybody has against the Patriots.
@@rhywar621: Montana and Rice admitted about the cheating that went on within the 49ers organization during their heyday, Bradshaw admitted to what the Steelers got away with. No GOAT is really that clean.
@@clipcoug1139 I get u but I still think the Patriots overdid it they be video taping folks practicing and plays deflating the balls and even messing with the opposing teams headsets they siad almost every team has complained about their headsets not working in Foxborough
As time goes by, more and more things will come out about how the Patriots cheated. Tom and his teammates benefited from all this. It will always bother me that the league let them get away with all of it.
They should get stripped of all their rings. Cheating, and getting caught, it should be grounds of dismissal of those titles. If not? What kind of picture is this painting for the youth getting into the sport?
Over the past 20 years I've still never seen one person wearing a brady Jersey that says alot. When he retires only the media will miss him nobody else will.
Pats cheaters.....no way! .....said no one ever. They also get overwhelming help by the refs. Never saw so many calls go a team's way and a QB get protected like Brady. Defenses could not even get close to him or they would get a roughing the passer.
"If you're not cheating, you're not trying." -Joe Montana I HIGHLY doubt he'd take that same position on the Pats cheating scandal... certainly not if it was done during a game he played in, b/c what the Pats did was on a GALACTIC different level!!
The same Montana who admitted his linemen greased up their jerseys on silicone so defenders couldn't grab a hold of them. Jerry Rice admitted he used a banned substance (Stickem) during his entire playing days. Steve Young admitted he paid ball boys to keep balls warm on gamedays by throwing them around (tampering with balls). Meanwhile the Patriots get caught for an action that plenty of NFL coaches have admitted that they have done (Spygate). And Deflategate is the biggest hoax in NFL history.
you know whats funny. i just typed a damn near essay telling this clown on here that the nfl had to force win the patriots and tom to make a mythical character, which creates revenue because its so soso hard for a qb to win multiple rings..... except montana.... and then you quote him saying that... crazy shit. i would not be surprised at all if they started it. bill loves himself some west coast/9ners offense. especially when he sends his wrs as heat seaking missiles to knock out a DB and get a guy open for a 50 yard gain on a slant
@@clipcoug1139 thats all cheating rxcept the warm ball theory come on dude. thats how i know youre a pats fan lol. let me guess you think giving john elway 2 mil cash under the table was worse than stealing playbooks like bill
@@gabrielfelix1759 What Steve Young paid the ball boys to be doing is basically tampering. And giving John Elway 2 mil cash under the table is much worse than stealing a playbook that you don't even know is real or not.
@@elliottpierce9823 spy gate was from 2001-2006. 3 Super Bowls there. Deflate gate was when they beat Seattle. Spy gate 2 was after they had just gone to 3 straight super bowls.
@@ronjohn575 I actually did some research on it and found my whole life has been a lie. Apparently the people who said that Spygate went back to the early Super Bowls, came out saying they had false info, issuing a public apology saying "our bad." I know crazy right. The big thing that put deflate gate as something that didn't happen, was the fact that the Colts balls that were inflated to 13 PSI (to Andrew Luck's liking), compared to the Pats 12.6 (as low as possible). The Pats balls were way under the minimum which made them more sus. But the Colts balls also were deflated, a couple of them being a tiny bit below the minimum, but most of them were around where the Pats balls started. Thats what I found lmao. And the one in 2019, was a year where they didn't win the SB. So unfortunately for us, I think they still have all of the SB's lmao. Curse my researching lmao.
The following teams deserve a Superbowl win because they were cheated out of it before by Tom Brady: Falcons, Rams twice, Seahawks, Broncos, Steelers, Jets, Giants, Eagles, Ravens, and Colts.
Roger Goodell be like: best we can do is give tom brady a 4 game suspension and then have him win the super bowl the same year. Also like eric cartman says: bill belichick says "i misinterpreted the ruuules"
It's bigger then both of them. It's the saving of the great white hope. Like they try in every sport. Example when they asked if Tom is the greatest of all time over Jordan and actually made a topic on main stream tv. How the hell can you compare the two? You see the Lamar Jacksons, Russell Wilson's, Desean Watson, Kyle Murray and counting is a threat to the most important position on the field. The rules had to be changed after ray lewis hit Tom but it's because Tom isn't athletic enough to move out of the pocket fast enough. By genetics white men are les athletic with exception of some. Tom is being propelled to be the greatest of all time by ring's. But it still won't work when in the end you have QBs with same numbers but rushing for thousands of yards on top of that. That's the threat to the position. If you still don't believe why does the NFL try to change all scrambling QBs position from QB to WR or RB. Lamar and many others confirmed it and said it to be true. And it gets deeper.
You fool clearly these black rushing qb playing style isn’t that great, when they constantly get injuried and struggle throwing the football. And it wasn’t Ray Lewis that injuried tom Brady it was Benard pollard, I admit the they created the rule for Brady but think why the nfl would do that. Brady just won mvp the year before and went undefeated and the reigning league mvp get hurt the first game being tackled in the knee. WR will be the first to tell you they don’t like being hit in the knees becaeu of acl injury’s. Why wouldn’t the nfl put a rule in place to help protect qb futures. Your really mad they created a rule that helps protect qbs. This is crazy y’all really will blame Brady for everythinv
@@bobbybetwirlin8442 Calm down buddy. Your very ignorant to the facts I see. Every qb gets hurt with or without running the ball. Some people watch football and some people study it. You just keep watching.
If you disqualify them from every SB that involved cheating and ref help on the road to and/or during each game Brady would be 4-2 in SB history. Of course I don’t have knowledge of these 6 SBs. Just the 4.
This is so bogus..... if you are going to allege, then get the REST of the FACTs out! 1) How many league wide headset communications issues were reported in the same time frame? Willing to bet it's probably a proportionate percentage and the Patriots 'turned off and turned in' their head sets every time their opponents didn't work as was required under the rule. 2) Sideline filming, it was LEGAL to do so up until that season and even HC Jimmie Johnson admitted 'we all do it!'. And advanced scouting?!? Every team has done it since the inception of the forward pass. Because the Patriots do it better and more successful than other organizations, it must be cheating? 3) Injury designations...what? those players were out! Who cares what designation they carried, what about all those teams that manipulate the doubtful list and HAVE BEEN fined for doing so????? 4) Deflated footballs??? Tom Brady and the Patriots were LOSING THAT game at half-time!!! Brady was experiencing one of the worst halves of football in his career! They made him 'change' the footballs and he had a GREAT 2nd half comeback win!! AND remember when Aaron Rodgers admitted that he likes his balls 'over-inflated' and tries to sneak them past the official crew?!?! 4) Fire alarms?!?! This has been a prank since the 1950's!!! George Halas used to pull the alarm himself! 5) Specific plays?!?...like putting a 'reported ineligible receiver' out side of the numbers so stupid teams (like the Ravens) that did not understand basic Pop Warner eligibility rules did not know who to cover so John Harbaugh cried all the way to the competition committee??? Face it Bill Belichick has forgotten more about football than any of us know, combined! This has created a whole new culture of 'sore losers' because they cannot admit that they were out played, out smarted, and out coached by the Patriots superior intellect. No participation trophies here. Talk about a one-sided presentation, this has all the Haters going Yeah, Yeah, Yeah...what about the organizations that pumped in crowd noise (Falcons and Colts), or the fake injury plays (Giants, two on one goal line series), or the stick'em violation by the Chargers that was totally comparable to deflating footballs but received two completely different outcomes???, or the Raven continually violation practice guidelines, or Mike Tomlin smirking as he tries to trip a kick returner, or the Giants vs Steelers deflate-gate that got swept under the rug because of the Rooney's and Mara's?!?!? Haters will find ANY excuse to hate, logic and facts be damned.
LMAO You just straight up lied! Not only was there *100%* a rule against filming from the sidelines *before* that year, but when the Patriots got caught doing it the first game of the 2007 season, it was their *third* offense, having been caught and sanctioned for doing it *twice* the year before! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 And you didn't just stop at the lie, but went on an entire rant based on *your own* lie! That is 100% the behavior of a *pathological* liar! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You just confirmed to the world that you are a *pathological* liar! I 100% see why you *love* this team of pathological liars, cheaters, and frauds! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don’t know the patriots were always shady to me but I don’t put that on Tom because what he did in Tampa I will never forget that and Tom is a team player so if there was Cheating he’d never give that up he’d take that to his grave.
You were saying? TEAMCHEATSCORE? 1. Denver Broncos (CheatScore of 53 = THE BIGGEST NFL Cheaters) 2. New York Jets (CheatScore of 51 = ELITE NFL Cheaters) 3. Indianapolis Colts (CheatScore of 48 = EXCEPTIONAL NFL Cheaters) 4. Pittsburgh Steelers (CheatScore of 44 = WELL ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 5. San Francisco 49ers (CheatScore of 37 = ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 6. New York Giants (CheatScore of 37 = ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 7. Baltimore Ravens (CheatScore of 35 = TOUCH ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 8. Oakland Raiders (CheatScore of 33 = TOUCH ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 9. Miami Dolphins (CheatScore of 31 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 10. Green Bay Packers (CheatScore of 31 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 11. Washington Redskins (CheatScore of 31 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 12. Atlanta Falcons (CheatScore of 30 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 13. Seattle Seahawks (CheatScore of 29 = TOUCH BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 14. New England Patriots (CheatScore of 27 = TOUCH BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 15. Detroit Lions (CheatScore of 27 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 16. Carolina Panthers (CheatScore of 27 = TOUCH BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 17. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (CheatScore of 26 = TOUCH BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 18. New Orleans Saints (CheatScore of 24 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 19. San Diego Chargers (CheatScore of 23 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 20. Minnesota Vikings (CheatScore of 23 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 21. Buffalo Bills (CheatScore of 23 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 22. Philadelphia Eagles (CheatScore of 22 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 23. Chicago Bears (CheatScore of 22 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 24. Dallas Cowboys (CheatScore of 22 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 25. Cleveland Browns (CheatScore of 20 = WELL BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 26. Kansas City Chiefs (CheatScore of 17 = WELL BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 27. Tennessee Titans (CheatScore of 17 = WELL BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters) 28. Houston Texans (CheatScore of 16 = HARDLY NOTICEABLE NFL Cheaters) 29. Cincinnati Bengals (CheatScore of 15 = HARDLY NOTICEABLE NFL Cheaters) 30. Los Angeles Rams (CheatScore of 15 = HARDLY NOTICEABLE NFL Cheaters) 31. Jacksonville Jaguars (CheatScore of 13 = HARDLY NOTICEABLE NFL Cheaters) 32. Arizona Cardinals (CheatScore of 12 = THE FEEBLEST NFL Cheaters)
And we are asked to believe all the complaints made prior 2007 spygate that would eventually go on to prove the so-called jealous and sore losers narrative. Now that's gaslignting folks lol
The uninformed content of the video and these comments is laughable. You legitimately put headset malfunctions on here? You do know the headset are regulated by the NFL, right? Kraft isn't sitting in his box hitting a button to disrupt them. I took a tour of Qwest field(when it was Qwest field)in Seattle. The person giving the tour openly joked about how they put on loud music and turn up the heat in the visitor's locker room. Pointing to spygate and the Bengals "scandal" alone shows how little you know of the actual rules of the NFL. Regardless of what team I root for, I am glad the Patriots beat all these commenter's teams so much it made them blind to facts. It's absolutely hilarious. The Patriots are these world class cheaters, but the 49ers? Oh no, they would never do anything to bend the rules. Or every other NFL team in history that does everything they can to get an advantage. People are so stupid it's absolutely hilarious.
I probably wouldn't even blame bill belichick, I think the problem goes further up the chain line than him, maybe to the team owner, maybe even the television stations airing the game want to see the outcome of the game go towards the Patriots for ratings but I think in order for them to keep their jobs I think they have to keep doing what their doing (cheating)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣......Who do U think deserve more credit for their success? Is that a oxymoronic question? All in the scheme of things are affiliating with cheating. Duh. Either that question is a mind game tactic or the person who narrator is slow...and shyster. Quit playing so much 😒
Brady and ernie adams were in this together they would tape the opposing teams signals take the tape back to ernie adams and he would match up the signals with down and distance so during the game they already knew what was coming it was all written down
Filming your opponents' signals is -- and always has been -- completely legal, even today. After a league memo to all clubs in 2006, however, you can't do it from a location where the team could potentially use it during the same game.
@@jameschamberlain9821. In the original SpyGate, the Patriots got in trouble for filming from an unapproved location. Belicheck said the purpose to do that was for post game analysis and Roger Goddell collaborated with Belicheck and agreed. The footage wasn't taped to try and give the Patriots an advantage within the game. The bylaws of the NFL basically say you can't tape during a game to try and get ad advantage within a game, but say nothing about using that footage for post game purposes. So arguably, the Pats didn't really break a rule
@@clipcoug1139 i agree 100% and again yes there is no rule says they can't thats not what got them in trouble what got them in trouble is the videographer would take the film back to ernie adams he would match up the signals with down and distance that way when the opponent held up a signal the OC or DC could match the signal up with the play being called for the down and distance that way brady and the coordinators would already know what was coming giving them a huge advantage it would also allow brady to change the play at the very last second with devastating results
@@clipcoug1139 and that was just the tip of the iceberg there were other things they were doing as well there were actually 3 spygate incidents all together 2 involving the patriots and 1 involving current OC josh mcdaniels when he was coach in denver
@@patrickwashington1187 Because I believe BB was the one responsible as such a system would require access that a Quarterback wouldn't have. Let's not forget that the Bucks, while good, weren't exactly dominant this year. They barely squeaked out a win in some of their games and got blown out of another. In Brady's multi-INT games, he clearly had trouble reading the coverages of the defense. If he was still cheating, he would have had some clue of what he would face IMO.
@@mr.whisper3338 not to discredit anything your saying but,this is deeper than football,it’s things going on behind the scenes that fans could never imagine
@@UntakenFF2 Not only is he a cheater but he's trash on top of it. How he gonna have the NFL in his pocket and still be less than mediocre 😆 y'all be tripping cause y'all get caught all the time but if your QB didn't need SOO MUCH help it wouldn't be so blatantly obvious. ... And Yeah, he's still your QB. I know all y'all bandwagon NE fans are w Tampa now
They wrote an alliance of blood, bullets, and bull sh*t in Detroit. Now, they've got Richard Farrelly a former associate of "Whitey" Bulger. Used to be Sullivan learned that .500 cheaters like Chuck (Chuckles) Fairbanks for using an FBI contact to hack team headsets and transmissions. And, then completely cut ways with them.
Jay Glazier says otherwise seeing he has the orginal Spygate tape against the Bengals and Goddell was showing the other tapes in question before he destroyed them.
The NFL destroyed evidence that would have exonerated the Patriots of any wrongdoing. Why? Because 31 butthurt owners were jealous of the Patriots' success
You're hater always whinning. Deflategate - you do even knows nothing about it. Did you looked at the video with a MIT professor or other high educated people who understands how the law of physics works? What did Wells report said? Hmmm? They had no evidence that NE deflated the balls. Even further Brady scored more points in the second half - as the balls wasn't deflated. How many balls were deflated? Hmmm? They found nothing! Just to save their little asses, the NFL put a charge against Brady - without any evidence! Brady is the GOAT - and earned his 7 rings.
@@seufer12 what about the leaked emails were the patriots staff members are openly talking about deflating balls and pissed off that tom hasnt been paying them 🤣🤣🤣
What about the greatest show on turf? They literally stole all the play calls. Brady the goat but to say he earned all those rings is a far reach lol Iike remote downstairs while you upstairs in the bed reach.
Even Manning, friend of Brady says he would make it a point to not discuss plays in the Patriots visitor locker room, as he felt they were being listened to.
manning had made so many "jokes" about them cheating. 2015 playoffs he made his team practice in a random field in the woods, where they werent officially scheduled the practice. during a "peytons places" episode he tells cris carter "can you hear me clearly, just making sure my head set works unlike in new england" which isnt important for a giy like peyton, who IS the coach and playbook, but lots of team's complain that they cant call plays to their qb because in new england somehow their headsets are (they dont say this but i think hacked) malfunctioning and all they hear is the espn am radio broadcast of the game.
coaches were known to start leaving fake playbooks in their locker rooms because for some reason, during pats games, when they came back inside from warm ups, or during half time, or after the game, some players playbooks go missing
I find it amazing that people recognize that Barry bonds only achieved his accolades do to his steroid use (cheating), but with the patriots all the fans are able to just continue to be delirious and act like their accomplishments were well deserved and fairly earned.
Barry Bonds already had HOF calibur numbers before he even started using steroids. He wouldn't have the record number of home runs, but roughly half his accolates were won before the steroids, depending on who you believe (Brian McNamee said he started injecting Bonds in 1998, court documents and reporting says Bonds was injected before 1999). It's not just the Patriots. It was the Steelers back in the 70s, 49ers in the 80s/early 90s, and the mid-to-late 90s Broncos. They all act like their titles are deserved.
@@renatopalma9074 Hahahahaha. Right. They are such "good friends" they ignored basic science and handed out the stiffest penalty a team had to that point, and suspended Brady for 4 games for....weather? Everyone loves to hate the Patriots but gives the 49ers a pass when Rice admitted to using illegal stickum on his hands. Fans are so stupid it's insane. All I need to know from any fan of any team is when they answer the question "what did the patriots do wrong in the spygate accusation?" None of them get it right, and I won't tell you the answer because you won't believe it anyway.
"We had 10-13 new plays for the Super Bowl which we never used during the season but they had the perfect defense for all of them like they knew beforehand." -- Marshall Faulk That quote says it all. Knowing all the plays your opponent will run is like knowing what the pitcher is going to throw next pitch, which is a huge advantage...just ask the Astros. Bill Belicheat is the Greatest CHEATER of all Time!
So Marshall Faulk is just salty that his Rams choked against the Patriots and all his speculation on the Patriots "spygating" was based on a Boston Herald article that was later retracted because the Herald admitted they made it up. Oh and stealing signs in football and baseball is actually legal if you do it through proper methods.
@@jharp08: OK. My mistake. The story they ran was based on incorrect information and later ran another article saying the original report was false (side note, Goddell cleared the Patriots as the NFL was able to verify that there was no walkthrough on the Rams). Bottom line is that there was no videotaping a walkthrough and plenty of people are believing Faulk, who believed in a story that was later proven to be wrong and the Herald apologized.
I played golf with the backup running back for the rams that year Justin watson. He said he saw somebody in the patriots camp filming the walkthrough. He gave so much detail and everything he said checked out. The patriots filmed their walkthrough. He said that the rams realized the patriots knew their plays before they ran them at the end of the third quarter in the super bowl so then the rams changed their game plan in the fourth quarter and scored 14 points in the fourth quarter. Also, if Tom Brady had nothing to hide with deflategate then why did he destroy his cell phone?
@@Jeffersonokay: Yeah sure he did. Checked out to who? Blind Patriot haters? Not even Roger Goddell believes about this filming the Patriots allegedly did. Also, no cheating in Deflategate. It's quite clear that anybody who knows what the Ideal Gas Law is would know how all the balls (on both teams sidelines) were deflated. Not even the Wells Report could prove without a shadow of the doubt that Brady or any Patriots staff were involved with deflating the footballs.
Hines Ward said in AFC championship game it would run his route and New England Patriots would be standing there waiting on him like I knew what he was running
Explain how that franchise never had a down season?? Every other team has had to rebuild or some kind of struggle but never NE. They’ve been cheating for years
Because they had randy Moss and a bunch of other fantastic players. Maybe they cheated sometimes but they also have the best team of all time. Tom Brady is goat
@@joelentrup6658 and y’all have been fined for cheating. Caught videotaping teams. Accused of wiring locker rooms. Why did the league burn those tapes before they ever got to the public?? Cheaing ass franchise
Not only are they not a dynasty 5 of the 6 super bowl wins came down to one play. That they were cheating is fact by now. So even cheating they barely won and one of those was on the worst call ever by an opponent
Given that they spied on the 1-11 Bengals a week before playing them in 2019, one can very easily conclude that this corrupt franchise hasn't honestly won a game since belicheat became their coach.
@@soarinskies1105 dude Peyton was accused of using hgh to help him with his neck injury during his last few seasons. Brady was confirmed cheating almost his entire career. Not even close to the same.
@@thebiohazard9457: Wrong on Brady. This is straight from the Wells Report "Based on the evidence, we also have concluded that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls." Nothing conclusive from that and the district judge ruled in favor of Brady of any wrong doing in Spygate (and he threw out Brady's suspension, which was later reinstated by the appeals court, because the same "more than probable" cause gave Goddell the power to suspend Brady under the CBA.
Nether one of them deserves credit for there success if they cheated.and if it comes out for a fact that Tom Brady cheated he should never be put into the NFL hall of fame..
see I love Tom Brady I love him as a football player I just want to know the truth behind the whole football incident just come forward and admit if there was a conspiracy that includes all staff and coaches..
@@kmc1824 you gotta understand hes a chump. a character its a sport with controlled variables. you have to have golden boy. a #1 product. a product everyone gets excited to see every time a new edition is released(a new season) they made him a low draft pick. a back up. an underdog. and they made him win win win to a point where its almost mythical. half the world thinks he cheated. half those ppl think that just means he wants it more. the other half cant evaluate talent and believe what ever "experts" say. and theyre all paid to say what the networks pay them to say. fox and espn dont just air the games. they pay the nfl BILLIONS a year..... just to air the games. imagine the profit..... if every qb got 2 or 1 ring max wed never have one or two guys we all argue and talk about. 1 or 2 guys to tune in for. manning, rodgers, everyone could see theyre far better than brady. even brady fans. but the wins is all that matters. you have 2 goats. and a guy who seems to always "overcome the odds fair and square" and its so awe inspiring and relatable because everyone wants to root for and see the underdog win. then the nfl cuts the media members FAT checks. how? well in vegas you can bet on the giants to beat the pats on the superbowl. 100 bucks and if the giants win, you get 300 back. or 200. whayever the odds are. they alert them. its called insider trading. "hey, ya this #1 ranked offense with tom hrady scoring 50 tds? #3 defense and the pats? ya theyre gonna lose to the giants even though they dont have a top 15 offense or defense" "really?" "yes its in the script, bet whatever you want, vegas odds will double or triple it just keep your mouth shut or youll never be allowed to get a job in the nfl ever again"
@@kmc1824 theres a reason tom always beat peyton. they knew every single route and play. theres a reason manning had to invent his own system where can change every route the coach calls and change it all at the line of scrimagge so that the pats DONT know exactly whats happening. theres a reason tom was "so good" in the playoffs. bad weather. and vs peyton. and a reason why toms defense ranked rop 8.... 20 times in his career. where manning brees and rodgers had less than that COMBINED..... theres a reason peyton has beat tom the last 3 times in the biggest game aka afc champiomship. because peyton joined the broncos who have had top 10 defenses over and over and over since the 60s. peyton is FAR.... FAR..... NO WHERE NEAR REMOTELY CLOSE... TO Tom.... the difference isbigger than galaxy.
They should have been stripped of their rungs nd championships...same as they did those blk Olympic gold metalist...20 yrs after they found out some shit
@@itsdavidfr2594 It's a lot easier to do that in Olympics considering many Olympic sports are all about the athletes skill, and not about a team, or a playbook. Replacing a teams titles in football is kinda impossible, especially cause they never cheated in the big game. If they had cheated in the SB, then revoke the title. But the Pats also never had a proven cheating scandal in any of the years they won it all, so I think they're safe.
Exactly you can't be the GOAT cheating hard like that those first 3 Superbowls have an asterisk next to them. These cheating scandals will forever taint Bradys legacy because they'll always be brought up.
Who deserves most of their credit neither of them it has to be the NFL league for allowing this… especially the clown, Roger Goodell… I can see clear as day that he has favoritism…
Tom Brady is a disgrace to the history of the sport of football. Tom Brady is a disgrace to the entirety of athletics. There is almost nothing that will make me despise you more on a first impression than saying that you think Tom Brady deserves to be the Greatest of All Time.
@@TheNBAHistory I could go into a whole long expose with statistics, examples, and logic to prove why Brady's not the GOAT, but I wont. I know it won't convince you otherwise. I'll just say one thing: in my book, counting stat records from being behind elite o-lines for 20 years, getting constantly bailed out in the playoffs to the point where all 7 super bowl rings can be traced back to flukes, cheating, and/or a carry job, sending motivational texts to your defenders, scummy off-field antics, and possibly PEDs from his dirtbag trainer don't make you a great player. Skills do. Brady, in 20 years, has never shown me that he has any level of skill compared to Rodgers, Manning, Marino, or Brees, to name a few. If you really want me to give you the cold hard stats, just ask.
Pete Rose can't get in the Baseball Hall of for betting on Baseball games , yet Shady Brady , Bill Belacheat, & Krafty get away with deflategate spygate etc.and are praised as the GOAT, best coach,& being a dynasty 🤔
Pete Rose accepted the lifetime suspension from baseball, which includes a spot into the baseball HOF. That's the difference. Pete Rose can get into the HOF, posthomous, or we wait and see if MLB decides to lift the ban.
@@gabrielfelix1759 Spygate and what the Astros did basically had similar punishment. Both teams were fined maximum dollars and both lost draft picks in subsequent drafts. Bonds wasn't even really punished for cheating.
@@TheNBAHistory he is an all time great but if he wasn't on such a cheating franchise he would be in the same boat as the other great QBS he wouldn't be in a league of his own or called the GOAT
th-cam.com/video/xuXSg8nvSdM/w-d-xo.html Here something interesting lmao. Also Jerry Rice came out and said he used Stickum. Also how exactly do you know Montana never had that help when all the ref things were tiny things in game that would have been forgotten by now. I'm not saying he had refs help. I'm just saying lmao.
This is late but if that's true, on Instagram there's a feature where you can set words to be automatically deleted if commented. I wouldn't be surprised if he blacklisted "cheater" and related words from his comments
Don’t forget that they knew Aaron Hernandez was in trouble or needed help and they chose to ignore that and told him to do whatever he needs to, so that he can continue his career
@@English_MoFo I’m not downplaying him or what he did, I’m just saying the pats organization was aware something was fishy and Aaron told them he needed help even if it wasn’t true. So that was in their knowledge, hence my comment….
This is why I got so tired of hearing about Tom Brady.....even after he left the patriots. Take away a good offensive line and the rigged games, and Brady is no better than Matt Leinart was in Arizona.
Imagine if an NBA player like LeBron or MJ did all this, they're legacy would be tarnished. Instead you have guys calling Brady the goat even with all this obvious evidence.
If this happened to Lebron or MJ, it would be swept under the rug and their legacy wouldn't be tarnished. just like Jerry Rice's admitted Stickum usage, or everything Montana and Bradshaw admitted to getting away with back in their heydays. Remember MJ's gambling problems?
It just amazes me how patriots fans still don’t think they’re cheating when all of these teams saying you’re calling out there signals,headset hacking,and more,just accept the truth
@@patrickwashington5259 the whole headset thing is stupid because once the opposing team headset goes out the home team has to stop using there headset as well, it’s an nfl rule so I don’t know how that cheating when both have to stop using there head set. And patriots have the most success out of any franchisee the past 20 years so there going to be a lot of people trying to discredit there success so it’s easy to poopoo it
This era of football is really soft. QB's like Joe Montana, and Randal Cunningham would have way better careers if they played the soft as football of today. QB's careers are extended now because these rules are soft as fuck.
No way joe Montana was a system qb just like brady and this was proven when he got injured and Steve young replaced him and dropped better numbers than joe
@@krisxchirbas9503 thank you!!! How can people convince me joes the goat when his back up produced better stats and won just as much as he did. Joe is the biggest system qb
No, they wouldn't. Because only one of these infractions actually happened, and it wasn't nearly as bad as what people think. Go do your research about spygate and you tell me what the Patriots actually did wrong. I bet you won't get it correct, either.
Who is the biggest cheater from the Patriots?
Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, or rub and tug Robert Kraft?
Bill
Brady, the refs cheated the falcons against the Buccaneers
Brady is the monster here
The whole organization
All 3 of them
Don’t forget that the NFL literally invented a rule for Tom Brady. Remember the tuck rule?
Remember the Ty Law Rule because Peyton couldn't accept a loss? Who fixed that?
Funny if it was invented for the Patriots why was it invoked for the Jets against the Patriots and the Jets ended up winning that game. So tell me how can you invoke the rule earlier in the season if it was invented for that game against the Raiders? Are you seeing pink dumbos flying by flapping their ears?
The Patriots are like the rich guy that is convicted of 20 felonies and gets probabtion...
Howcome nobody even talks about 🤣🤣🤣
If accusations were convictions that would make a lot more sense. But the accusations and only 2 convictions (Spygate 1.0 and 2.0) is all anybody has against the Patriots.
That's still alot and alot more than everyone else to much for Brady to be called the GOAT
@@rhywar621: Montana and Rice admitted about the cheating that went on within the 49ers organization during their heyday, Bradshaw admitted to what the Steelers got away with.
No GOAT is really that clean.
@@clipcoug1139 I get u but I still think the Patriots overdid it they be video taping folks practicing and plays deflating the balls and even messing with the opposing teams headsets they siad almost every team has complained about their headsets not working in Foxborough
I will never recognize these cheaters, and will boycott every game they are in.
Let it go
Good for you , nobody cares
You let it go
As time goes by, more and more things will come out about how the Patriots cheated. Tom and his teammates benefited from all this. It will always bother me that the league let them get away with all of it.
And everyone just forgets about all this stuff. Amazing
How could anybody deny this
I haven’t
Because it's all false
@@patrickwashington5259 because it's all false
@@nolimitsteelernationbrando3807 because it's all false
Brady and Belichick are on same level as Lance Armstrong, Mark McGwire
Tonya Harding.
@@wat-ched lol yep. Although didn’t really help her. She didn’t win
Astros
At least out of the pack Lance did do some good as far as for cancer research. Still a cheat, but he did good too.
Don't forget the greatest cheater ever, Mr Barry Bonds, he is literally recognized for this with an asterisk before his name.
Thank fuck Tom brady has now announced his retirement today the 7 super bowl wins should be stripped. Biggest grub in NFL He’s no goat
We don’t talk about that
They should get stripped of all their rings. Cheating, and getting caught, it should be grounds of dismissal of those titles. If not? What kind of picture is this painting for the youth getting into the sport?
Glad you mentioned when the Patriots recorded the Rams practice
Me too, it destroyed a dynasty and destroyed what those players worked for their entire lives. The Rams were a MUCH better team.
Over the past 20 years I've still never seen one person wearing a brady Jersey that says alot. When he retires only the media will miss him nobody else will.
I never noticed that but now I realize that I’ve never seen anyone with his jersey on.
Oh shit it's true. I'm sure in a home stadium there's many. But you're right.
That’s what you wanted the world to know, lmaooo yea nobody wearing a Brady jersey beacuse he always Beating there team
Brady is constantly the heights selling jersey every year
@@lissette15 what u talking I brought brady jersey
They should treat Tom how they treated Barry Bonds. Cheating is cheating why should he get a pass and be labeled great.
Once a Cheater, Always a Cheater!!! Brady and teams should a their SB rings confiscated!!!
Too late. People will always remember they won their titles.
Good ol’ Bill Belicheat
Peyton manning = GOAT
wasn't there something about blackouts at Pats games that led to wins??
Pats cheaters.....no way! .....said no one ever. They also get overwhelming help by the refs. Never saw so many calls go a team's way and a QB get protected like Brady. Defenses could not even get close to him or they would get a roughing the passer.
Is it Brady or Pats bribing refs or does the league itself have some interest in maintaining Brady’s star image?
@Mackey Dirk
An Arizona cardinals fan debunked all of the times that the Patriots were accused of cheating.
@@gelidsoul
If it’s the referees fault, then how are the Patriots cheaters? If the league can fix their own games, why would a team need to cheat?
@@giantsr1eva Same reason things have always been fixed in sports: gambling.
Walter Payton is the goat
This gives me a really…gross…feeling. Idk how else to say it.
They should take away the Super Bowl and AFC trophies and give it to the ones who actually deserve them.
Lol buddy that's not how it works that's being a sore loser
How you spot a fan of a poverty franchise in 5 seconds.
Lol he jealous 😢
@@reddlc28 nah just most people cant see the connection of certain things. Nothing to do with jealousy.
@@Antonya944 but to be a sore loser, the winner actually has to be a winner and not a cheater 😄
"If you're not cheating, you're not trying."
-Joe Montana
I HIGHLY doubt he'd take that same position on the Pats cheating scandal... certainly not if it was done during a game he played in, b/c what the Pats did was on a GALACTIC different level!!
The same Montana who admitted his linemen greased up their jerseys on silicone so defenders couldn't grab a hold of them. Jerry Rice admitted he used a banned substance (Stickem) during his entire playing days. Steve Young admitted he paid ball boys to keep balls warm on gamedays by throwing them around (tampering with balls).
Meanwhile the Patriots get caught for an action that plenty of NFL coaches have admitted that they have done (Spygate). And Deflategate is the biggest hoax in NFL history.
you know whats funny. i just typed a damn near essay telling this clown on here that the nfl had to force win the patriots and tom to make a mythical character, which creates revenue because its so soso hard for a qb to win multiple rings..... except montana.... and then you quote him saying that... crazy shit. i would not be surprised at all if they started it. bill loves himself some west coast/9ners offense. especially when he sends his wrs as heat seaking missiles to knock out a DB and get a guy open for a 50 yard gain on a slant
@@clipcoug1139 thats all cheating rxcept the warm ball theory come on dude. thats how i know youre a pats fan lol. let me guess you think giving john elway 2 mil cash under the table was worse than stealing playbooks like bill
@@gabrielfelix1759 YUP!!!
@@gabrielfelix1759 What Steve Young paid the ball boys to be doing is basically tampering.
And giving John Elway 2 mil cash under the table is much worse than stealing a playbook that you don't even know is real or not.
This video is crazy I like how everybody says Tom Brady is the goat but without any of this would he have all them championships probably not
He would have none
Other teams do this as well.... it's just the patriots win
@@ronjohn575 Well non of his cheating scandals came in a year where they won the Super Bowl. Sooooo yea lmao. I guess he still has 7. GOSH Dang it.
@@elliottpierce9823 spy gate was from 2001-2006. 3 Super Bowls there. Deflate gate was when they beat Seattle. Spy gate 2 was after they had just gone to 3 straight super bowls.
@@ronjohn575 I actually did some research on it and found my whole life has been a lie. Apparently the people who said that Spygate went back to the early Super Bowls, came out saying they had false info, issuing a public apology saying "our bad." I know crazy right. The big thing that put deflate gate as something that didn't happen, was the fact that the Colts balls that were inflated to 13 PSI (to Andrew Luck's liking), compared to the Pats 12.6 (as low as possible). The Pats balls were way under the minimum which made them more sus. But the Colts balls also were deflated, a couple of them being a tiny bit below the minimum, but most of them were around where the Pats balls started. Thats what I found lmao. And the one in 2019, was a year where they didn't win the SB. So unfortunately for us, I think they still have all of the SB's lmao. Curse my researching lmao.
Bill belichick in fear with my joe Douglas 's 2021 jets free agency plans
Needs way more views
I just love it when people get so jealous how good the Patriots were a dynasty
**cheatriots** 😉
The following teams deserve a Superbowl win because they were cheated out of it before by Tom Brady: Falcons, Rams twice, Seahawks, Broncos, Steelers, Jets, Giants, Eagles, Ravens, and Colts.
I love those salty tears it really helps to melt the snow in New England
How did the patriots cheat against the falcons and the rams
@@Joshuaklotzbach Spygate, Deflate gate, Paying the Refs, Illegal signal calling etc. And that's just in two games...
@@Joshuaklotzbach l love that weak comeback because it proves to myself that I'm right.
Look up Dquell Jackson...the guy who blew the whistle on defaltegate
great job bratha........COULDNT SAY IT BETTER MYSELF
All the dislikes are salty cheaters fans
Soooooo every single fan?
amazing vid, 700 views to 24k subs is a big of a yikes
Roger Goodell be like: best we can do is give tom brady a 4 game suspension and then have him win the super bowl the same year. Also like eric cartman says: bill belichick says "i misinterpreted the ruuules"
It's bigger then both of them. It's the saving of the great white hope. Like they try in every sport. Example when they asked if Tom is the greatest of all time over Jordan and actually made a topic on main stream tv. How the hell can you compare the two? You see the Lamar Jacksons, Russell Wilson's, Desean Watson, Kyle Murray and counting is a threat to the most important position on the field. The rules had to be changed after ray lewis hit Tom but it's because Tom isn't athletic enough to move out of the pocket fast enough. By genetics white men are les athletic with exception of some. Tom is being propelled to be the greatest of all time by ring's. But it still won't work when in the end you have QBs with same numbers but rushing for thousands of yards on top of that. That's the threat to the position. If you still don't believe why does the NFL try to change all scrambling QBs position from QB to WR or RB. Lamar and many others confirmed it and said it to be true. And it gets deeper.
You have a good point, I think that's a reason why Lamar declined to do the 40-yard dash during the combine
I never thought about it like that Wow
You fool clearly these black rushing qb playing style isn’t that great, when they constantly get injuried and struggle throwing the football. And it wasn’t Ray Lewis that injuried tom Brady it was Benard pollard, I admit the they created the rule for Brady but think why the nfl would do that. Brady just won mvp the year before and went undefeated and the reigning league mvp get hurt the first game being tackled in the knee. WR will be the first to tell you they don’t like being hit in the knees becaeu of acl injury’s. Why wouldn’t the nfl put a rule in place to help protect qb futures. Your really mad they created a rule that helps protect qbs. This is crazy y’all really will blame Brady for everythinv
@@bobbybetwirlin8442 Calm down buddy. Your very ignorant to the facts I see. Every qb gets hurt with or without running the ball. Some people watch football and some people study it. You just keep watching.
@@aaron2342 what did you study? Your upset they added rules for saftey you sound ridiculous
If you disqualify them from every SB that involved cheating and ref help on the road to and/or during each game Brady would be 4-2 in SB history. Of course I don’t have knowledge of these 6 SBs. Just the 4.
This is so bogus..... if you are going to allege, then get the REST of the FACTs out! 1) How many league wide headset communications issues were reported in the same time frame? Willing to bet it's probably a proportionate percentage and the Patriots 'turned off and turned in' their head sets every time their opponents didn't work as was required under the rule. 2) Sideline filming, it was LEGAL to do so up until that season and even HC Jimmie Johnson admitted 'we all do it!'. And advanced scouting?!? Every team has done it since the inception of the forward pass. Because the Patriots do it better and more successful than other organizations, it must be cheating? 3) Injury designations...what? those players were out! Who cares what designation they carried, what about all those teams that manipulate the doubtful list and HAVE BEEN fined for doing so????? 4) Deflated footballs??? Tom Brady and the Patriots were LOSING THAT game at half-time!!! Brady was experiencing one of the worst halves of football in his career! They made him 'change' the footballs and he had a GREAT 2nd half comeback win!! AND remember when Aaron Rodgers admitted that he likes his balls 'over-inflated' and tries to sneak them past the official crew?!?! 4) Fire alarms?!?! This has been a prank since the 1950's!!! George Halas used to pull the alarm himself! 5) Specific plays?!?...like putting a 'reported ineligible receiver' out side of the numbers so stupid teams (like the Ravens) that did not understand basic Pop Warner eligibility rules did not know who to cover so John Harbaugh cried all the way to the competition committee??? Face it Bill Belichick has forgotten more about football than any of us know, combined! This has created a whole new culture of 'sore losers' because they cannot admit that they were out played, out smarted, and out coached by the Patriots superior intellect. No participation trophies here. Talk about a one-sided presentation, this has all the Haters going Yeah, Yeah, Yeah...what about the organizations that pumped in crowd noise (Falcons and Colts), or the fake injury plays (Giants, two on one goal line series), or the stick'em violation by the Chargers that was totally comparable to deflating footballs but received two completely different outcomes???, or the Raven continually violation practice guidelines, or Mike Tomlin smirking as he tries to trip a kick returner, or the Giants vs Steelers deflate-gate that got swept under the rug because of the Rooney's and Mara's?!?!? Haters will find ANY excuse to hate, logic and facts be damned.
LMAO You just straight up lied! Not only was there *100%* a rule against filming from the sidelines *before* that year, but when the Patriots got caught doing it the first game of the 2007 season, it was their *third* offense, having been caught and sanctioned for doing it *twice* the year before! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
And you didn't just stop at the lie, but went on an entire rant based on *your own* lie! That is 100% the behavior of a *pathological* liar! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You just confirmed to the world that you are a *pathological* liar! I 100% see why you *love* this team of pathological liars, cheaters, and frauds! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What other teams reported headset problems?
I don’t know the patriots were always shady to me but I don’t put that on Tom because what he did in Tampa I will never forget that and Tom is a team player so if there was Cheating he’d never give that up he’d take that to his grave.
Brady is the best quarterback of all time. Belicheck is the best cheater of all time. Put the together and you get 20 years of dominance.
Deion Sanders is not cheating at Colorado.
I played in an era when you established dominance, no-one cared if they knew our plays or schemes. Good luck stopping us, which rarely happened.
Tom Brady and patriots never cheated.
Thought Brady broke his phone
You were saying?
TEAMCHEATSCORE?
1. Denver Broncos
(CheatScore of 53 = THE BIGGEST NFL Cheaters)
2. New York Jets
(CheatScore of 51 = ELITE NFL Cheaters)
3. Indianapolis Colts
(CheatScore of 48 = EXCEPTIONAL NFL Cheaters)
4. Pittsburgh Steelers
(CheatScore of 44 = WELL ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
5. San Francisco 49ers
(CheatScore of 37 = ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
6. New York Giants
(CheatScore of 37 = ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
7. Baltimore Ravens
(CheatScore of 35 = TOUCH ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
8. Oakland Raiders
(CheatScore of 33 = TOUCH ABOVE AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
9. Miami Dolphins
(CheatScore of 31 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
10. Green Bay Packers
(CheatScore of 31 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
11. Washington Redskins
(CheatScore of 31 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
12. Atlanta Falcons
(CheatScore of 30 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
13. Seattle Seahawks
(CheatScore of 29 = TOUCH BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
14. New England Patriots
(CheatScore of 27 = TOUCH BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
15. Detroit Lions
(CheatScore of 27 = AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
16. Carolina Panthers
(CheatScore of 27 = TOUCH BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
17. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(CheatScore of 26 = TOUCH BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
18. New Orleans Saints
(CheatScore of 24 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
19. San Diego Chargers
(CheatScore of 23 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
20. Minnesota Vikings
(CheatScore of 23 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
21. Buffalo Bills
(CheatScore of 23 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
22. Philadelphia Eagles
(CheatScore of 22 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
23. Chicago Bears
(CheatScore of 22 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
24. Dallas Cowboys
(CheatScore of 22 = BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
25. Cleveland Browns
(CheatScore of 20 = WELL BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
26. Kansas City Chiefs
(CheatScore of 17 = WELL BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
27. Tennessee Titans
(CheatScore of 17 = WELL BELOW AVERAGE NFL Cheaters)
28. Houston Texans
(CheatScore of 16 = HARDLY NOTICEABLE NFL Cheaters)
29. Cincinnati Bengals
(CheatScore of 15 = HARDLY NOTICEABLE NFL Cheaters)
30. Los Angeles Rams
(CheatScore of 15 = HARDLY NOTICEABLE NFL Cheaters)
31. Jacksonville Jaguars
(CheatScore of 13 = HARDLY NOTICEABLE NFL Cheaters)
32. Arizona Cardinals
(CheatScore of 12 = THE FEEBLEST NFL Cheaters)
And we are asked to believe all the complaints made prior 2007 spygate that would eventually go on to prove the so-called jealous and sore losers narrative. Now that's gaslignting folks lol
The uninformed content of the video and these comments is laughable. You legitimately put headset malfunctions on here? You do know the headset are regulated by the NFL, right? Kraft isn't sitting in his box hitting a button to disrupt them. I took a tour of Qwest field(when it was Qwest field)in Seattle. The person giving the tour openly joked about how they put on loud music and turn up the heat in the visitor's locker room. Pointing to spygate and the Bengals "scandal" alone shows how little you know of the actual rules of the NFL.
Regardless of what team I root for, I am glad the Patriots beat all these commenter's teams so much it made them blind to facts. It's absolutely hilarious. The Patriots are these world class cheaters, but the 49ers? Oh no, they would never do anything to bend the rules. Or every other NFL team in history that does everything they can to get an advantage. People are so stupid it's absolutely hilarious.
Can you make a video about all the times the NFL cheated the saints
This is the reason that drew brees has only one ring
The Saints just leveled the playing field they didn’t cheat
I probably wouldn't even blame bill belichick, I think the problem goes further up the chain line than him, maybe to the team owner, maybe even the television stations airing the game want to see the outcome of the game go towards the Patriots for ratings but I think in order for them to keep their jobs I think they have to keep doing what their doing (cheating)
tom
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣......Who do U think deserve more credit for their success? Is that a oxymoronic question? All in the scheme of things are affiliating with cheating. Duh. Either that question is a mind game tactic or the person who narrator is slow...and shyster. Quit playing so much 😒
Brady and ernie adams were in this together they would tape the opposing teams signals take the tape back to ernie adams and he would match up the signals with down and distance so during the game they already knew what was coming it was all written down
Filming your opponents' signals is -- and always has been -- completely legal, even today. After a league memo to all clubs in 2006, however, you can't do it from a location where the team could potentially use it during the same game.
@@clipcoug1139 you are correct sir thats not what got them in trouble it was what they were filming the signals for that got them in trouble
@@jameschamberlain9821. In the original SpyGate, the Patriots got in trouble for filming from an unapproved location.
Belicheck said the purpose to do that was for post game analysis and Roger Goddell collaborated with Belicheck and agreed. The footage wasn't taped to try and give the Patriots an advantage within the game.
The bylaws of the NFL basically say you can't tape during a game to try and get ad advantage within a game, but say nothing about using that footage for post game purposes. So arguably, the Pats didn't really break a rule
@@clipcoug1139 i agree 100% and again yes there is no rule says they can't thats not what got them in trouble what got them in trouble is the videographer would take the film back to ernie adams he would match up the signals with down and distance that way when the opponent held up a signal the OC or DC could match the signal up with the play being called for the down and distance that way brady and the coordinators would already know what was coming giving them a huge advantage it would also allow brady to change the play at the very last second with devastating results
@@clipcoug1139 and that was just the tip of the iceberg there were other things they were doing as well there were actually 3 spygate incidents all together 2 involving the patriots and 1 involving current OC josh mcdaniels when he was coach in denver
Tom is not the goat once again people
Yes he is crybaby
I would've been inclined to agree with you, but even I can't dispute Brady going the SB with another team.
@@mr.whisper3338 what makes you think he’s still not cheating
@@patrickwashington1187 Because I believe BB was the one responsible as such a system would require access that a Quarterback wouldn't have. Let's not forget that the Bucks, while good, weren't exactly dominant this year. They barely squeaked out a win in some of their games and got blown out of another. In Brady's multi-INT games, he clearly had trouble reading the coverages of the defense. If he was still cheating, he would have had some clue of what he would face IMO.
@@mr.whisper3338 not to discredit anything your saying but,this is deeper than football,it’s things going on behind the scenes that fans could never imagine
Brady and Belichick are on same level as Lance Armstrong, Mark McGwire
Worse.
In 2019 the pats were filming the damn 2-14 bengals 😩😂 I hate that franchise
U mad ?😫
Yes lmao the Pat's chests so tom brady is a cheater lmao people are dumb tom brady is not a cheater
@@UntakenFF2 does Brady not benefit from the pats cheating??? Your reasoning is actually 0 iq
Ne rats film my jets defense signals in spy gate 2007 too
@@UntakenFF2 Not only is he a cheater but he's trash on top of it. How he gonna have the NFL in his pocket and still be less than mediocre 😆 y'all be tripping cause y'all get caught all the time but if your QB didn't need SOO MUCH help it wouldn't be so blatantly obvious.
... And Yeah, he's still your QB. I know all y'all bandwagon NE fans are w Tampa now
Remember when Roger Goodell destroyed the Spygate tape without letting anyone else seeing it? That's all you need to know!
They wrote an alliance of blood, bullets, and bull sh*t in Detroit. Now, they've got Richard Farrelly a former associate of "Whitey" Bulger. Used to be Sullivan learned that .500 cheaters like Chuck (Chuckles) Fairbanks for using an FBI contact to hack team headsets and transmissions. And, then completely cut ways with them.
Jay Glazier says otherwise seeing he has the orginal Spygate tape against the Bengals and Goddell was showing the other tapes in question before he destroyed them.
Goodell was in on it in more ways than one
The NFL destroyed evidence that would have exonerated the Patriots of any wrongdoing. Why? Because 31 butthurt owners were jealous of the Patriots' success
@@clipcoug1139 Glazier? Don't trust him
Even when they get caught they’re favored by the NFL. “Red white and blue”
I love the brady fans in here, their comments are exactly what I expect a brady fan to sound like.
You're hater always whinning. Deflategate - you do even knows nothing about it.
Did you looked at the video with a MIT professor or other high educated people who understands how the law of physics works?
What did Wells report said? Hmmm? They had no evidence that NE deflated the balls. Even further Brady scored more points in the second half - as the balls wasn't deflated. How many balls were deflated? Hmmm?
They found nothing! Just to save their little asses, the NFL put a charge against Brady - without any evidence!
Brady is the GOAT - and earned his 7 rings.
@@seufer12 what about the leaked emails were the patriots staff members are openly talking about deflating balls and pissed off that tom hasnt been paying them 🤣🤣🤣
@@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE Where did you get that info from. If you say the Wells report I'm gonna laugh out loud.
@@seufer12 Umm . . . .
""Marsha, Marsha. Marsha""
CHEATed (PERIOD)
What about the greatest show on turf? They literally stole all the play calls. Brady the goat but to say he earned all those rings is a far reach lol Iike remote downstairs while you upstairs in the bed reach.
If you go along with cheating you are just as guilty as the mastermind
Rodger goodell
Naa
Exactly that’s why i can’t call Tom Brady a goat he’s a cheater
@@4FatHoesInAHonda right on
@@4FatHoesInAHonda that 2020 buccaneers Super Bowl mustve hurt you to your core huh lol
Even Manning, friend of Brady says he would make it a point to not discuss plays in the Patriots visitor locker room, as he felt they were being listened to.
manning had made so many "jokes" about them cheating. 2015 playoffs he made his team practice in a random field in the woods, where they werent officially scheduled the practice. during a "peytons places" episode he tells cris carter "can you hear me clearly, just making sure my head set works unlike in new england" which isnt important for a giy like peyton, who IS the coach and playbook, but lots of team's complain that they cant call plays to their qb because in new england somehow their headsets are (they dont say this but i think hacked) malfunctioning and all they hear is the espn am radio broadcast of the game.
coaches were known to start leaving fake playbooks in their locker rooms because for some reason, during pats games, when they came back inside from warm ups, or during half time, or after the game, some players playbooks go missing
Sure they're friends
@@Marcuswelby-nx2te friends? LOL That's just part of the show
I find it amazing that people recognize that Barry bonds only achieved his accolades do to his steroid use (cheating), but with the patriots all the fans are able to just continue to be delirious and act like their accomplishments were well deserved and fairly earned.
Barry Bonds already had HOF calibur numbers before he even started using steroids. He wouldn't have the record number of home runs, but roughly half his accolates were won before the steroids, depending on who you believe (Brian McNamee said he started injecting Bonds in 1998, court documents and reporting says Bonds was injected before 1999).
It's not just the Patriots. It was the Steelers back in the 70s, 49ers in the 80s/early 90s, and the mid-to-late 90s Broncos. They all act like their titles are deserved.
Almost all evidence of this “cheating” has been disproven
@@plutoskis1661 because their good friend Rodger Buuuudell decided to burn it to avoid a bigger mess
@@plutoskis1661 it’s because friends with Roger Goodell and Kraft paid them off
@@renatopalma9074 Hahahahaha. Right. They are such "good friends" they ignored basic science and handed out the stiffest penalty a team had to that point, and suspended Brady for 4 games for....weather? Everyone loves to hate the Patriots but gives the 49ers a pass when Rice admitted to using illegal stickum on his hands. Fans are so stupid it's insane. All I need to know from any fan of any team is when they answer the question "what did the patriots do wrong in the spygate accusation?" None of them get it right, and I won't tell you the answer because you won't believe it anyway.
"Everybody shoplifts, where are you all coming down on me?"
- Eric Cartman as Tom Brady
"We had 10-13 new plays for the Super Bowl which we never used during the season but they had the perfect defense for all of them like they knew beforehand." -- Marshall Faulk
That quote says it all. Knowing all the plays your opponent will run is like knowing what the pitcher is going to throw next pitch, which is a huge advantage...just ask the Astros. Bill Belicheat is the Greatest CHEATER of all Time!
So Marshall Faulk is just salty that his Rams choked against the Patriots and all his speculation on the Patriots "spygating" was based on a Boston Herald article that was later retracted because the Herald admitted they made it up.
Oh and stealing signs in football and baseball is actually legal if you do it through proper methods.
@@clipcoug1139 they didn’t admit it was made up just not correct information
@@jharp08: OK. My mistake. The story they ran was based on incorrect information and later ran another article saying the original report was false (side note, Goddell cleared the Patriots as the NFL was able to verify that there was no walkthrough on the Rams).
Bottom line is that there was no videotaping a walkthrough and plenty of people are believing Faulk, who believed in a story that was later proven to be wrong and the Herald apologized.
I played golf with the backup running back for the rams that year Justin watson. He said he saw somebody in the patriots camp filming the walkthrough. He gave so much detail and everything he said checked out. The patriots filmed their walkthrough. He said that the rams realized the patriots knew their plays before they ran them at the end of the third quarter in the super bowl so then the rams changed their game plan in the fourth quarter and scored 14 points in the fourth quarter. Also, if Tom Brady had nothing to hide with deflategate then why did he destroy his cell phone?
@@Jeffersonokay: Yeah sure he did. Checked out to who? Blind Patriot haters? Not even Roger Goddell believes about this filming the Patriots allegedly did.
Also, no cheating in Deflategate. It's quite clear that anybody who knows what the Ideal Gas Law is would know how all the balls (on both teams sidelines) were deflated.
Not even the Wells Report could prove without a shadow of the doubt that Brady or any Patriots staff were involved with deflating the footballs.
Hines Ward said in AFC championship game it would run his route and New England Patriots would be standing there waiting on him like I knew what he was running
Explain how that franchise never had a down season?? Every other team has had to rebuild or some kind of struggle but never NE. They’ve been cheating for years
oh u casual, you now that before 2000 NE was one of the worst teams of all time?, i think they even went 1-15 once
@@liionxyz7131 Yup, we drafted Bledsoe from that season.
Because they had randy Moss and a bunch of other fantastic players. Maybe they cheated sometimes but they also have the best team of all time.
Tom Brady is goat
@@liionxyz7131 before 2000?? Homie its 2021🤣🤣🤣
@@joelentrup6658 and y’all have been fined for cheating. Caught videotaping teams. Accused of wiring locker rooms. Why did the league burn those tapes before they ever got to the public?? Cheaing ass franchise
Not a real dynasty if they are cheaters 🤔
Then no NFL teams are real.
@@poiziepoe7940 not everybody cheats lol
@@bladerunnerzach999 You, the kid: Not everybody cheats dad
Me, the dad: Well... son I have to tell you something lmao
Yep
Not only are they not a dynasty 5 of the 6 super bowl wins came down to one play. That they were cheating is fact by now. So even cheating they barely won and one of those was on the worst call ever by an opponent
Given that they spied on the 1-11 Bengals a week before playing them in 2019, one can very easily conclude that this corrupt franchise hasn't honestly won a game since belicheat became their coach.
🤣🤣
I’ve never seen a Cheater praised as much as brady
*Cough Cough Peyton Manning*
@@soarinskies1105 dude Peyton was accused of using hgh to help him with his neck injury during his last few seasons. Brady was confirmed cheating almost his entire career. Not even close to the same.
Fr straight facts
Jerry "Stickum" Rice
@@thebiohazard9457: Wrong on Brady. This is straight from the Wells Report
"Based on the evidence, we also have concluded that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls."
Nothing conclusive from that and the district judge ruled in favor of Brady of any wrong doing in Spygate (and he threw out Brady's suspension, which was later reinstated by the appeals court, because
the same "more than probable" cause gave Goddell the power to suspend Brady under the CBA.
Honestly Bellichick and Brady should be barred from hof induction. What other coach and QB have had this many cheating controversies.
he isn’t even on the patriots anymore, and he left cuz of bill
If you believe that then you clearly know nothing about football the only thing that was 100 percent proven was spygate in 2007 delegate was bs
I believe Brady cheated and Bellichick didn't. Lots of rumors about Brady
Great point
@@Joshuaklotzbach they have more then spy gate
Nether one of them deserves credit for there success if they cheated.and if it comes out for a fact that Tom Brady cheated he should never be put into the NFL hall of fame..
Well in that case, Ima go try to go buy the property in Canton lmao. They probably don't need that big of a building lmao.
see I love Tom Brady I love him as a football player I just want to know the truth behind the whole football incident just come forward and admit if there was a conspiracy that includes all staff and coaches..
Tripping ☠️☠️
@@kmc1824 you gotta understand hes a chump. a character its a sport with controlled variables. you have to have golden boy. a #1 product. a product everyone gets excited to see every time a new edition is released(a new season) they made him a low draft pick. a back up. an underdog. and they made him win win win to a point where its almost mythical. half the world thinks he cheated. half those ppl think that just means he wants it more. the other half cant evaluate talent and believe what ever "experts" say. and theyre all paid to say what the networks pay them to say. fox and espn dont just air the games. they pay the nfl BILLIONS a year..... just to air the games. imagine the profit..... if every qb got 2 or 1 ring max wed never have one or two guys we all argue and talk about. 1 or 2 guys to tune in for. manning, rodgers, everyone could see theyre far better than brady. even brady fans. but the wins is all that matters. you have 2 goats. and a guy who seems to always "overcome the odds fair and square" and its so awe inspiring and relatable because everyone wants to root for and see the underdog win. then the nfl cuts the media members FAT checks. how? well in vegas you can bet on the giants to beat the pats on the superbowl. 100 bucks and if the giants win, you get 300 back. or 200. whayever the odds are. they alert them. its called insider trading. "hey, ya this #1 ranked offense with tom hrady scoring 50 tds? #3 defense and the pats? ya theyre gonna lose to the giants even though they dont have a top 15 offense or defense" "really?" "yes its in the script, bet whatever you want, vegas odds will double or triple it just keep your mouth shut or youll never be allowed to get a job in the nfl ever again"
@@kmc1824 theres a reason tom always beat peyton. they knew every single route and play. theres a reason manning had to invent his own system where can change every route the coach calls and change it all at the line of scrimagge so that the pats DONT know exactly whats happening. theres a reason tom was "so good" in the playoffs. bad weather. and vs peyton. and a reason why toms defense ranked rop 8.... 20 times in his career. where manning brees and rodgers had less than that COMBINED..... theres a reason peyton has beat tom the last 3 times in the biggest game aka afc champiomship. because peyton joined the broncos who have had top 10 defenses over and over and over since the 60s. peyton is FAR.... FAR..... NO WHERE NEAR REMOTELY CLOSE... TO Tom.... the difference isbigger than galaxy.
They should have been stripped of their rungs nd championships...same as they did those blk Olympic gold metalist...20 yrs after they found out some shit
i think so too
@@itsdavidfr2594 It's a lot easier to do that in Olympics considering many Olympic sports are all about the athletes skill, and not about a team, or a playbook. Replacing a teams titles in football is kinda impossible, especially cause they never cheated in the big game. If they had cheated in the SB, then revoke the title. But the Pats also never had a proven cheating scandal in any of the years they won it all, so I think they're safe.
how are we just letting this slip by as the years go by? seriously? this is some bs. cheating is cheating
It takes someone of low morals to win by cheating.
Tom is not the goat once again people
7 rings
@@gbiii8295 still cheat to get all the ones in New England,so he’s never a goat for me🤷🏾♂️
Should be 8 rings because philly special illegal formation and on the hail marry they trucked a receiver 5 seconds before the ball was thrown
Exactly you can't be the GOAT cheating hard like that those first 3 Superbowls have an asterisk next to them. These cheating scandals will forever taint Bradys legacy because they'll always be brought up.
@@patrickwashington1187 He will never be Michael Jordan
Who deserves most of their credit neither of them it has to be the NFL league for allowing this… especially the clown, Roger Goodell… I can see clear as day that he has favoritism…
Hence the name bellacheat.
Take away their Super Bowls
They all get credit for their successful cheating efforts, including Roger Goodell.
Also josh McDaniels getting fired from Denver… lol for cheating
Let sue the patriots
That won’t happen cause these are all lies
Brady most overrated athlete of all time
Dont forget that he also cheated in the most recent superbowl
@@baldelonmusk8068 he always does
@@baldelonmusk8068 how sway???
@@Ma1q444 and 7 rings 3 mvp, most passing yards, most playoff wins, every playoff passing stat. How is he overrated again?
Overrated? Lmao
Tom Brady is a disgrace to the history of the sport of football. Tom Brady is a disgrace to the entirety of athletics. There is almost nothing that will make me despise you more on a first impression than saying that you think Tom Brady deserves to be the Greatest of All Time.
You mad, bro
@@clipcoug1139 he mad bro😂
Thank you. I agree with you 💯%
Keep crying, your tears does change the fact that's he's the goat. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@TheNBAHistory I could go into a whole long expose with statistics, examples, and logic to prove why Brady's not the GOAT, but I wont. I know it won't convince you otherwise. I'll just say one thing:
in my book, counting stat records from being behind elite o-lines for 20 years, getting constantly bailed out in the playoffs to the point where all 7 super bowl rings can be traced back to flukes, cheating, and/or a carry job, sending motivational texts to your defenders, scummy off-field antics, and possibly PEDs from his dirtbag trainer don't make you a great player.
Skills do.
Brady, in 20 years, has never shown me that he has any level of skill compared to Rodgers, Manning, Marino, or Brees, to name a few.
If you really want me to give you the cold hard stats, just ask.
They r a disgrace to the league.....
So are many other teams, except they're scandals just aren't that big of a deal.
LOL !!!!
THE NFL is sleazier than the Patriots organization, and that's quite an accomplishment !
Pete Rose can't get in the Baseball Hall of for betting on Baseball games , yet Shady Brady , Bill Belacheat, & Krafty get away with deflategate spygate etc.and are praised as the GOAT, best coach,& being a dynasty 🤔
Pete Rose accepted the lifetime suspension from baseball, which includes a spot into the baseball HOF. That's the difference. Pete Rose can get into the HOF, posthomous, or we wait and see if MLB decides to lift the ban.
The problem I have is when you get caught you should pay a severe price then this would stop like maybe banned from the sport
not banned. but they need to be treatwd like the astros. or pete rosell. or barry binds
@@gabrielfelix1759 Spygate and what the Astros did basically had similar punishment. Both teams were fined maximum dollars and both lost draft picks in subsequent drafts.
Bonds wasn't even really punished for cheating.
And they be trying to call Brady the GOAT smh
Because he is. Cry.
@@TheNBAHistory he is an all time great but if he wasn't on such a cheating franchise he would be in the same boat as the other great QBS he wouldn't be in a league of his own or called the GOAT
Haters gonna hate
@@mrvlogs8648 the dick riding is insane
@@TheNBAHistoryhe’s not the goat he’s a cheater lowlife
you forgot they also cheated the ravens giants chiefs jags titans may b more
Don’t forget about the games against the Colts!
@@raymalec2830 thats right deflated balls
Good video but let's remember the refs cheats for Brady also Joe montana never had that help he's the real 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
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Here something interesting lmao.
Also Jerry Rice came out and said he used Stickum. Also how exactly do you know Montana never had that help when all the ref things were tiny things in game that would have been forgotten by now. I'm not saying he had refs help. I'm just saying lmao.
@@elliottpierce9823 This man Troy talking like he was alive when Joe was in the NFL lol.
Walter Payton the goat
Joe Montana also admitted to deflating footballs? News flash by your definition Your Goat is also a cheater
@@soarinskies1105 the true GOAT quarterback has to be mark sanchez 🐐🐐🐐🐐🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Commented "Still A Cheater!" On Tom's Instagram recent and he deleted the comment, need I say more.
Not A Joke
This is late but if that's true, on Instagram there's a feature where you can set words to be automatically deleted if commented. I wouldn't be surprised if he blacklisted "cheater" and related words from his comments
Don’t forget that they knew Aaron Hernandez was in trouble or needed help and they chose to ignore that and told him to do whatever he needs to, so that he can continue his career
Don't forget that he murdered 2 people well before getting into the NFL. "needed help" btw
@@English_MoFo I’m not downplaying him or what he did, I’m just saying the pats organization was aware something was fishy and Aaron told them he needed help even if it wasn’t true. So that was in their knowledge, hence my comment….
@@English_MoFo who did he murder before getting into the NFL, talking out your Ass
This is why I got so tired of hearing about Tom Brady.....even after he left the patriots. Take away a good offensive line and the rigged games, and Brady is no better than Matt Leinart was in Arizona.
Imagine if an NBA player like LeBron or MJ did all this, they're legacy would be tarnished. Instead you have guys calling Brady the goat even with all this obvious evidence.
All but 1 of these had nothing to do with Brady lmfao
Basketball is different from football.
If this happened to Lebron or MJ, it would be swept under the rug and their legacy wouldn't be tarnished. just like Jerry Rice's admitted Stickum usage, or everything Montana and Bradshaw admitted to getting away with back in their heydays.
Remember MJ's gambling problems?
It just amazes me how patriots fans still don’t think they’re cheating when all of these teams saying you’re calling out there signals,headset hacking,and more,just accept the truth
@@patrickwashington5259 the whole headset thing is stupid because once the opposing team headset goes out the home team has to stop using there headset as well, it’s an nfl rule so I don’t know how that cheating when both have to stop using there head set. And patriots have the most success out of any franchisee the past 20 years so there going to be a lot of people trying to discredit there success so it’s easy to poopoo it
How many times can this team get away with cheating? Those Superbowl wins were all flukes, take them rings away
Excellent video. Thank you for sharing this.
All of the media have to say he's the goat bcuz they'll get threats and get fired.tom is the cheetah
Is Tampa doing this now???
yes
well, they sure had the refs on their side
Mmm hmm
Looks like we have a salty chiefs fan below the comment section 😂😂
Well if Tampa was doing it, why would they purposely lose 5 games?
They need all there super bowl rings taken away
Not all your going to far
Eric Mangini didn't say a word about when he was a coach for the Patriots tho.
This is why the nfl should forfeit some of patrots super bowl wins because of cheating
The refs would be a big help as well isn't that right Tom Brady
Don't forget to have the refs help out crybrady
This era of football is really soft. QB's like Joe Montana, and Randal Cunningham would have way better careers if they played the soft as football of today. QB's careers are extended now because these rules are soft as fuck.
No way joe Montana was a system qb just like brady and this was proven when he got injured and Steve young replaced him and dropped better numbers than joe
@@krisxchirbas9503 thank you!!! How can people convince me joes the goat when his back up produced better stats and won just as much as he did. Joe is the biggest system qb
Remember Giants quarterback Y.A. Tittle with blood flowing from his inhured head.
If any college or high school team did exactly what the Patriots did here, they would have to forfeit every game and championship trophy.
Colorado never forfeited their national title after their 5th down win.
No, they wouldn't. Because only one of these infractions actually happened, and it wasn't nearly as bad as what people think. Go do your research about spygate and you tell me what the Patriots actually did wrong. I bet you won't get it correct, either.
How can this be the Goat, this ain't it
Tom Brady won without belichick