@@StevenPine-s8t Yes, but the owner and editor decided to move ahead with the story, regardless of outcome. Nixon was very popular and Watergate was seen as unpopular. They did the story not to boost readership. They did it because it had to be done.
And who decides what's in the "best interest of society"? The Germans were unprepared, disorganized, and it was their lack of action and bad decisions that lead to those deaths. Blaming the press for being there (and reporting what was happening) is like blaming the sun for shining.
Oh, please. You ever hear of the Watergate scandal and Washington Post's responsibility in uncovering it? Without the media, who holds governments to account? Who does the muckraking? Who does the fact-checking? Who reports on abuses, persecutions, inequities? You ever heard of Vietnam? When America's military lost Walter Cronkite's support, it lost the support of the American people. Or consider the media investigations of civil liberties violations in the war on terror. The list is endless. If you are unaware of these efforts to work in the public interest, you're absorbing the wrong media or you need to get an education. Cynicism doesn't protect you from having a moral responsibility to make fact-based opinions.
The media did almost the same thing in the Mumbai attacks - broadcasting where the victims were hiding from the terrorists in the Taj hotel through interviews.
I remember being shocked when I came home from school and heard the news. I had been mesmerized by the Winter Olympics in Sapporo and was excited for Munich
And here we are fifty years later with the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians having been more or less decided but still far from an end to the violence
Well , im not anti Semitic, but im not a zionist. The Balfour declaration is garbage and so was the apartheid of 1948. No one should be entitled to land due to race or religion, we should just co exist and keep that stuff to ourselves.
Exactly, taking land off Palestine to settle Europeans was never going to work, Germany we're more than happy to let Britian deal with it, innocent civillians are still dying in their thousands thanks to this ridiculous decision, it's neither Israeli's or Palestinians who caused this conflict imo, Britian and now U.S have alot to answer for still denying Palestinians a state of their own and they have the audacity to supply bombs etc to Israel and blame the whole problem on Palestine, unbelievable.
It must be remembered that Germany had no special units at that time, especially anti-terrorist ones. Therefore, untrained policemen (and a few hunters) were unable to deal with a group of Arab terrorists well trained by the Soviet secret services. German counterterrorism units were created only after this tragedy, also in cooperation with Israel. Meanwhile, the police officers protecting the Olympics were trained only to be nice and helpful, and to de-escalate tensions. They were supposed to remain invisible and operate very discreetly. They were also unarmed, there were no personal checks, no baggage checks, no clear division of powers and competences, etc. There were also frictions between the Bavarian government and the federal government and pressure from the Olympic Committee. The media only heated up the atmosphere, making money on sensationalism. Just like, for example, September 11, no one was prepared for something like this. It was something completely different and unexpected, and no one (including those from abroad) knew how to react.
Many nations had no counter terrorism units, airline cockpits couldn't be locked, fertilizer didn't have additives preventing it from becoming an explosive. These jerks who kill innocent people force lots of changes.
That is only partially true. A psychologist created a security profile in advance. One of his scenarios was almost exactly what Black September executed. But no extra security measures were taken. Also every possible mistake was executed, even in cases where you just needed common sense and thinking and no special education. And the worst thing: Israel offered its help and German in its incredible arrogance denied and claimed to have it all under control. I’m from Munich originally, living since 20 years in Israel. So, I have sources from both countries: true that Germany wasn’t prepared particularly well, but instead of being humble and smart, their arrogance and stupid decision created the perfect storm of violence.
Weren't these the Olympics of Olga Korbut ? Sad that there was such tragedy at the same Games which had such athletic achievement. I was very young then, but we watched this Olympics- and Wide World 🌐 🌎 of Sports- I recall the tension very well. RIP the murdered athletes.
I went to the winter games in Utah in 2002. This was the year after the 9/11 attack. The security was intense. I think Germany blew it. They were too intent on showing a new face.
1972 was the year my parents took me & my brothers to tour Europe in the months of April & May. We visited the Munich Olympic Village. Our flight home had a stopover in Lod airport in Tel-Aviv. We were not allowed to leave the plane after the passengers for T.A. disembarked. Through the airplane window, I saw a huge pile of rubble sitting next to a gaping hole in the airport terminal. We had no idea until we got home the next morning that the Japanese Red Army (terror group) had killed 26 people & bombed that airport just hours before our plane landed there. 😮
Munich was the first Olympics that I can remember. Wow it is now 52 years ago. I can still remember the ABC news coverage of the of Israeli Munich Olympic massacre especially by sports broadcaster Jim McKay.
I was 17, watching from the USA..I'll never forget this, and our own Jim McKay with his heartbreaking coverage! You can't blame Germany for this, it was a bunch of heartless terrorists!!
honestly, live coverage of such things shouldn't be allowed. sure film it. but giving terrorist live view of where their enemies are. or where hostages are hiding. media should pay extreme fines for helping terrorists due to their selfish desires to make money of being "the first" to report.
My mom worked at a newspaper in Rochester New York and they had a photographer there who had gotten into a lot of trouble he'd gone to an apartment fire and there was somebody trying to get out of a window and the building look like it was going to begin collapsing in the person yelled at the photographer to help them get out of the window and the photographer said just a second I need to take a picture so he took a picture of the person screaming as they're trying to get out of the building that was burning around them that their actual flesh was on fire at that point he took the picture and a second after taking the picture the building fell in on that person that they took the picture of. After that happened I'm not sure I can't recall the exact date or the time on that one but I do remember that there was this huge backlash because the idea there were a lot of people who said well it's not the reporters fault it wasn't the camera then fault that the building was going to collapse on them and it was like no that few minute that few seconds could have been enough to have saved his life but because that person was thinking more about hopefully winning appealous surprise which didn't happen what happened was he became somebody that even the newspapers wouldn't buy photographs from. Because the editors at that time have had a lot more sense than they have today. The media is all about creating hype just like what they're doing with regards to the people who are demonstrating and shutting down traffic all around America because it's something that the media itself is proving themselves to be on the side of the same people who are pushing these things so I have to say Qatar and Arabia anybody within the terrorist World they've got a bunch of money into the media because they're have it from the one side and that's all as a matter of fact I look up to see what they have on Munich in here if we own everything then why is there nothing in here about Munich why is there nothing as far as a documentary showing what actually happened. I guess so sick and tired of this b******* of people saying yes choose on everything and everything is always in our best interest and everything always shows us to be the greatest of everything it's not that's not reality we have more people hating us now than ever before there's no such thing as as the good Jew. It's all pushing the agenda of Qatar and Arabia.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The tragic events of the 1972 Munich Olympics continue to evoke strong emotions and discussions about the actions taken or not taken at the time. It's important to remember this event and learn from it.
I was just watching a meeting with the leaders of fatah about this operation. They said they wanted to free hostages who were getting tortured from the israeli prisons.
@@rick188888 Yes they would. Unlike ISIS these groups did such operations to make prisoner exchange deals. The problem with government officials and decision makers is that they deal with the kidnappers with arrogance and don't take their threats seriously. Yes, they negotiate, but only to cover up their true intentions to use force against the kidnappers. The lives of the kidnapped seem to be the last thing that matters to the politicians. The strange about this incident is that the government released those arrested about a month after the failed rescue operation.
@@ao9970 you should be ashamed of yourself for this vile accusation. Just like with the Israeli hostages that are held captives by Hamas today, there is NEVER a justification for kidnapping innocent people from their homes, never. The Palestinians seem to always choose the way of murder, terror, kidnapping and massacres , even decades later, nothing is new. Even while knowing what the consequences would be for their own people. Sad truth is, they don’t care enough about their people to renounce the way of terror, and we should take them for their word once when they say “we love death the way you love life”
@advocateforaimassist8217 To be fair, Germans have always been hopeless in resolving hostage situations without bloodshed. Almost exactly 16 years after Munich, German commandos botched a hostage rescue operation where two robbers had taken a 19 (maybe 20) year old woman and held a gun to her head in a BMW. She was shot when the commandos started shooting at the robbers while the woman was seated just inches from them. Even 3rd world commandos could've done better.
15:08 dont know what came first. The hollowed masks terrorist wore or hollowed pumpkins for Halloween. One inspired the other to make it look deadly, scary and sensational too.
The media will NEVER act in the best interest of society! ONLY IN ITSELF'S BEST INTEREST!!!
@@StevenPine-s8t Not always. The courage of the Post in exposing Watergate and the President's role was in the best interest of the common good.
@@ellenchavez2043 it was still about thier readership and profits
@@StevenPine-s8t Yes, but the owner and editor decided to move ahead with the story, regardless of outcome. Nixon was very popular and Watergate was seen as unpopular. They did the story not to boost readership. They did it because it had to be done.
And who decides what's in the "best interest of society"? The Germans were unprepared, disorganized, and it was their lack of action and bad decisions that lead to those deaths. Blaming the press for being there (and reporting what was happening) is like blaming the sun for shining.
Oh, please. You ever hear of the Watergate scandal and Washington Post's responsibility in uncovering it? Without the media, who holds governments to account? Who does the muckraking? Who does the fact-checking? Who reports on abuses, persecutions, inequities? You ever heard of Vietnam? When America's military lost Walter Cronkite's support, it lost the support of the American people. Or consider the media investigations of civil liberties violations in the war on terror. The list is endless. If you are unaware of these efforts to work in the public interest, you're absorbing the wrong media or you need to get an education. Cynicism doesn't protect you from having a moral responsibility to make fact-based opinions.
The media did almost the same thing in the Mumbai attacks - broadcasting where the victims were hiding from the terrorists in the Taj hotel through interviews.
I remember being shocked when I came home from school and heard the news. I had been mesmerized by the Winter Olympics in Sapporo and was excited for Munich
I remember when i found out about the Weimar Republic- it was really shocking
Google the Talmud
And here we are fifty years later with the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians having been more or less decided but still far from an end to the violence
here we are again...😥
Well , im not anti Semitic, but im not a zionist. The Balfour declaration is garbage and so was the apartheid of 1948. No one should be entitled to land due to race or religion, we should just co exist and keep that stuff to ourselves.
Exactly, taking land off Palestine to settle Europeans was never going to work, Germany we're more than happy to let Britian deal with it, innocent civillians are still dying in their thousands thanks to this ridiculous decision, it's neither Israeli's or Palestinians who caused this conflict imo, Britian and now U.S have alot to answer for still denying Palestinians a state of their own and they have the audacity to supply bombs etc to Israel and blame the whole problem on Palestine, unbelievable.
Israel is the violent state that deprives others non Jews of their rights
Here we are again, terrorist attacking Israel.
It must be remembered that Germany had no special units at that time, especially anti-terrorist ones. Therefore, untrained policemen (and a few hunters) were unable to deal with a group of Arab terrorists well trained by the Soviet secret services. German counterterrorism units were created only after this tragedy, also in cooperation with Israel. Meanwhile, the police officers protecting the Olympics were trained only to be nice and helpful, and to de-escalate tensions. They were supposed to remain invisible and operate very discreetly. They were also unarmed, there were no personal checks, no baggage checks, no clear division of powers and competences, etc. There were also frictions between the Bavarian government and the federal government and pressure from the Olympic Committee. The media only heated up the atmosphere, making money on sensationalism. Just like, for example, September 11, no one was prepared for something like this. It was something completely different and unexpected, and no one (including those from abroad) knew how to react.
the Israeli intelligence service wanted to intervene but germany didn't allow them
This is also the reason the gign was formed
Many nations had no counter terrorism units, airline cockpits couldn't be locked, fertilizer didn't have additives preventing it from becoming an explosive. These jerks who kill innocent people force lots of changes.
Dont forget that Its first leader Ulrich Wegener was a east german who was arrested for distributing leaflets
That is only partially true. A psychologist created a security profile in advance. One of his scenarios was almost exactly what Black September executed. But no extra security measures were taken. Also every possible mistake was executed, even in cases where you just needed common sense and thinking and no special education. And the worst thing: Israel offered its help and German in its incredible arrogance denied and claimed to have it all under control.
I’m from Munich originally, living since 20 years in Israel. So, I have sources from both countries: true that Germany wasn’t prepared particularly well, but instead of being humble and smart, their arrogance and stupid decision created the perfect storm of violence.
4:01 one of the volunteers was Silvia Sommerlath, who would become Queen of Sweden.
Hi @ApprenPlayer! That's true 🥰
@@DWHistoryandCulture I really liie DW. I am from Nepal.
"They're All Gone" - Jim McKay
Those two countries have been fighting since the dawn of time.
@@inkedbeast76 No? Zionism is a 19th century political philosophy and the concept of a nation state is less than a millennia old?
Israel was not created until after WW2, hardly the dawn of time.
@@de132 Palestine has never been a country
@@Henry-xu5jg but they have always been a people, you don’t need to have a state and government to be a nation with its own identity.
@@shadowmate733 no they were Jordanian, syrian Egyptians
Weren't these the Olympics of Olga Korbut ? Sad that there was such tragedy at the same Games which had such athletic achievement.
I was very young then, but we watched this Olympics- and Wide World 🌐 🌎 of Sports- I recall the tension very well.
RIP the murdered athletes.
It was.
Yes!
I went to the winter games in Utah in 2002. This was the year after the 9/11 attack. The security was intense. I think Germany blew it. They were too intent on showing a new face.
1972 was the year my parents took me & my brothers to tour Europe in the months of April & May. We visited the Munich Olympic Village. Our flight home had a stopover in Lod airport in Tel-Aviv. We were not allowed to leave the plane after the passengers for T.A. disembarked. Through the airplane window, I saw a huge pile of rubble sitting next to a gaping hole in the airport terminal. We had no idea until we got home the next morning that the Japanese Red Army (terror group) had killed 26 people & bombed that airport just hours before our plane landed there. 😮
Hi @cindymaceda2999! Thank you for sharing your story with us. A terrible day!
7:54 the change in tones is insane! You went from dark ominous music to preppy bouncy strings and piano keys
Same thing happened in 2008 in Mumbai. The media broadcast all movements by the rescue team...
Munich was the first Olympics that I can remember. Wow it is now 52 years ago. I can still remember the ABC news coverage of the of Israeli Munich Olympic massacre especially by sports broadcaster Jim McKay.
When i go through this kind of history i cant blame Israelis for what they are doing today
4:05 is that the now Queen Silvia?
Yes
MEDIA has always wanted one thing :TRP
Nice video 📹 👍 👌 👏 😀
I was 17, watching from the USA..I'll never forget this, and our own Jim McKay with his heartbreaking coverage! You can't blame Germany for this, it was a bunch of heartless terrorists!!
1972, these guys already had green roofs. Impressed!
4:12 Well, that's an unfortunate pose.
Uhmmm...why?
honestly, live coverage of such things shouldn't be allowed. sure film it. but giving terrorist live view of where their enemies are. or where hostages are hiding. media should pay extreme fines for helping terrorists due to their selfish desires to make money of being "the first" to report.
Hi @czechvirusS! Thanks for taking the time to comment, especially to this difficult topic.
My mom worked at a newspaper in Rochester New York and they had a photographer there who had gotten into a lot of trouble he'd gone to an apartment fire and there was somebody trying to get out of a window and the building look like it was going to begin collapsing in the person yelled at the photographer to help them get out of the window and the photographer said just a second I need to take a picture so he took a picture of the person screaming as they're trying to get out of the building that was burning around them that their actual flesh was on fire at that point he took the picture and a second after taking the picture the building fell in on that person that they took the picture of. After that happened I'm not sure I can't recall the exact date or the time on that one but I do remember that there was this huge backlash because the idea there were a lot of people who said well it's not the reporters fault it wasn't the camera then fault that the building was going to collapse on them and it was like no that few minute that few seconds could have been enough to have saved his life but because that person was thinking more about hopefully winning appealous surprise which didn't happen what happened was he became somebody that even the newspapers wouldn't buy photographs from. Because the editors at that time have had a lot more sense than they have today. The media is all about creating hype just like what they're doing with regards to the people who are demonstrating and shutting down traffic all around America because it's something that the media itself is proving themselves to be on the side of the same people who are pushing these things so I have to say Qatar and Arabia anybody within the terrorist World they've got a bunch of money into the media because they're have it from the one side and that's all as a matter of fact I look up to see what they have on Munich in here if we own everything then why is there nothing in here about Munich why is there nothing as far as a documentary showing what actually happened. I guess so sick and tired of this b******* of people saying yes choose on everything and everything is always in our best interest and everything always shows us to be the greatest of everything it's not that's not reality we have more people hating us now than ever before there's no such thing as as the good Jew. It's all pushing the agenda of Qatar and Arabia.
Israeli special forces was denied the help they offered to Germany disgusting 52 years later and Germany try to look good by saying sorry
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The tragic events of the 1972 Munich Olympics continue to evoke strong emotions and discussions about the actions taken or not taken at the time. It's important to remember this event and learn from it.
Well...thats what happens if you always try to "send a message" or want to make a political statement at such events...
0:25 again
Media is a mediator.🌈
Was germany cursed, given its past?
Why do a people have to resort to this every body has a history book
Sorry, we may not be following along yet. Could you please elaborate on your point?
I was just watching a meeting with the leaders of fatah about this operation.
They said they wanted to free hostages who were getting tortured from the israeli prisons.
@@ao9970 If that had happened, would they have actually freed the Israeli hostages?
@@rick188888 Yes they would. Unlike ISIS these groups did such operations to make prisoner exchange deals. The problem with government officials and decision makers is that they deal with the kidnappers with arrogance and don't take their threats seriously. Yes, they negotiate, but only to cover up their true intentions to use force against the kidnappers. The lives of the kidnapped seem to be the last thing that matters to the politicians. The strange about this incident is that the government released those arrested about a month after the failed rescue operation.
@@ao9970 you should be ashamed of yourself for this vile accusation. Just like with the Israeli hostages that are held captives by Hamas today, there is NEVER a justification for kidnapping innocent people from their homes, never. The Palestinians seem to always choose the way of murder, terror, kidnapping and massacres , even decades later, nothing is new. Even while knowing what the consequences would be for their own people. Sad truth is, they don’t care enough about their people to renounce the way of terror, and we should take them for their word once when they say “we love death the way you love life”
They didn't prepare for this eventuality.🤔
They really did thoroughly demilitarize.
They got caught lacking again
@advocateforaimassist8217 To be fair, Germans have always been hopeless in resolving hostage situations without bloodshed. Almost exactly 16 years after Munich, German commandos botched a hostage rescue operation where two robbers had taken a 19 (maybe 20) year old woman and held a gun to her head in a BMW. She was shot when the commandos started shooting at the robbers while the woman was seated just inches from them. Even 3rd world commandos could've done better.
15:08 dont know what came first. The hollowed masks terrorist wore or hollowed pumpkins for Halloween. One inspired the other to make it look deadly, scary and sensational too.
@@FreeDiddy-69 In case, germans.
Adidas has a whole collection of slaighter collection of shoes
Because media is shit
Can you suggest an alternative?
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