My daughter and I, a 67-year-old woman put a fence like this up in our yard, mind you it was only about 20 ft wide but, I lined up the post she pounded them down with no machine just the pounder and then we had bought pre-made panels and we put the hardware on them lined them up and screwed them in. Our fence is so lovely people compliment it all the time and say it's better than the professional job they had, it's been up for over a year now and standing tall. It took us half a day to do it because we needed to rest between pounding each post.
20 ft wide.... you're joking right?! That's like 3-4 panels.... that's nothing to brag about. Try 1.5 acres in clay soil in TX then you can brag all you want.
@@watcherofwatchers it’s not trolling. He’s absolutely right The average person can either borrow or rent an augur. Harbor freight sells an affordable unit someone could buy and resell or pawn to recoup some of purchase price or just eat it as a one time purchase This is any major city or metro area for purchase or rental and someone you’d borrow in a rural IF you didn’t have one VS Getting some one off purpose built machine that less than 10% of the population owns and hardly any tool rental company would buy because you won’t make your money back on the investment But the average person doesn’t have a tractor or this tool, can’t rent it cheap and isn’t going to be able to find an installer who even has one
This method is a good idea, but if you could just sledgehammer in a base piece as an anchor and screw the rest of each metal post to the anchor, it could be made easier and cheaper.
Finally someone who installs the top, mid, and bottom railing CORRECTLY! I had driving by and seeing New Fence with the Railings secured to a piece of 2x4 block, because the Fence Builder didn't measure correctly while setting the Post. Also he installed the Top Railing correctly justblike the middle and bottom rails. I hate when they install the top Railing flat. Over time the Railings will start to bow because they installed them horizontally, installed vertically which has more strength and won't sag/bow! I always screw my Fences and never nail. The nails tends to back out as the wood dries out. Also screwing is also stronger. The only thing with screws is if you have to demo a fence and screws have deteriorate its harder to back them without stripping them because of the rust.
This is so cool! My parents helped me build my fence and there was no no-dig option. We talked about using an auger but alas, it was a shovel and manpower. These posts are impressive!
@Time 4 Change bless my husband. He works so hard. Not only does he work hard everyday and trucking. But when he gets home. He's always running doing working. Actually he just put in a huge gate in our fence, man I wish I would have seen this a few months ago. But it's okay all in good time. My husband is coming home this summer to do some heavy duty chores. I'm so excited. I actually have this in my savings. I want to get it for him. He has all kinds of tools. I'm always looking for something that'll make life a little easier for him. Then I find it and he already has a tool. Hahahaha 😆 wheeze laugh 😂... I know he doesn't have this. Nope not at all. I got the excited giggles. Something he doesn't know about or at least, we've watched the same type of videos It's hilarious. We send each other the same videos we have already watched. And we also find out we follow the same type of people. So he might bring this up and if he does I'm going to get really excited super duper excited. I had no idea these things existed. God bless him he already works so hard. He needs things to make life a little easier. He'll be turning 60 this year. God love him. I'm so excited. It's a rarity to find something that he doesn't have.
Love love love the idea of a "no dig" fence, BUT, how does this system work in areas where digging an average post hole produces more softball to basketball sized rocks than dirt ? There have been many times when I had to remove rocks the size of a bag of Portland to put a post where it had to go.
I think it'll typically push aside rocks that are similar to softball sized. But much bigger you start to have issues. Of course no matter how ya do posts it'll suck when you have boulders everywhere
Would it be much different than a cole chisel or hammer drill against rocks? Using that hammer-driver, it may be that these would break through baseball-sized rocks, depending on the steel hardness.?.
I'd imagine if they made the post with a hardened steel on the leading edge and maybe have it somewhat sharpened like a Rock chisel it would go through just fine using an impact driver like they used or even a sledgehammer or post driver
I always watch videos like this and wonder how nobody ever hits rocks when driving posts. I am in NC and we have super hard thick red clay and tons of large rocks under the surface. I cant ever dig a hole without hitting at least one massive rock that takes forever to dig out
Yeah that was my comment. I'm in the Ozarks, a foot underground we have boulders the size of passenger cars. You can't drive a post like that into the ground here. Maybe in subdivisions that are built on several feet of fill, there it should work fine.
This is a pretty slick way to build a fence. However where I live has very rocky ground. I could see this being a problem trying to go this route for a build.
I built a fence at my parents house in Oklahoma. It took two auger bits to dig the holes because the ground (clay) was so hard. I completely wore the first bit dies smooth. Took it back to Home Depot and got another one. I barely got the rest of the holes dug with the second bit.
I have helped build a few fences. And I just never saw one put up with anything like the ease, and lack of mess and fuss. And it actually was one of the straighter and tidier finished jobs I have ever seen as well. The comparative absence of mess in the yard during the job, would be a significant advantage to anyone who had fussy old women around the place. I take my hat off to you, gentlemen.
@@amb7440 If the husbands are old enough, yes, there IS science to justify the idea that they become more "womanly" as their old women become more "manly".
I love seeing how you guys in the USA do things, we still do a lot of digging here in England, and set concrete posts into concrete mix, then have pre made 6 foot wide feather edge wood panels sit on a 1 foot concrete gravel boardl, the cost of which is now around 90 to 120 pounds sterling per 6 foot run or bay, a good 2 man crew can do 20 to 25 bays a day including ripping out old fence, its hard heavy work and I'm glad I am retired , love your humour haxman always a joy watching your vids
Around here, we use 8 ft 4x4 pressure treated pine posts, 8 ft 2x4 pressure treated pine rails, and 6 ft cedar pickets (typically 6" wide) with one nail diameter between the pickets to allow for the wood to expand and shrink when it wet. The posts are set in concrete and optimally the hole for the post is deep enough that you don't have to cut any of it off for it to be even with the top rail. Current price at Home Depot is $12.48 for the 4x4s, $3.97 for an 80-lb bag of concrete (probably one needed per post hole), $7.58 for the 8 ft 2x4s, and $3.74 for the cedar fence pickets. According to the link he provided for the steel posts, they are currently wanting around $95-100 for the 9 ft ones he said he was using in the video... Compared to around $16.50 if you do it the 4x4 post and concrete way... As a homeowner, you would need to rent that powered post driver which is probably not that much different than renting a powered post hole digger / auger...
A month before Hurricane Beryl, I build a fence with these. Three of the posts I installed in old post holes and filled in with concrete due to underground utility concern. The rest I drove directly into the ground. We ended up getting 85 mph eyewall winds. The ground was so saturated that the hurricane was able to push the fence over about 12 degrees, execpt the concreted posts didn't move, I surmise the concrete presented more surface area to reduce the square inch load against the saturated ground. Anyway, I righted all the in-dirt posts and tamped in dry soil once the ground had dried out some, easy fix, the posts are as firm as before. No posts were bent by the storm. But bulding a fence by driving these things in the ground works great!
I love this! Lazy fence building, just what I've been hoping for. Next time Mark's in Georgia, maybe he could stop in Tennessee...where EVERYTHING is "Home Depot bucket orange". 😁
Depends on the rock type. Out west it'd probably just split the sandstone rock. On the east coast where there's granite it'd probably veer off or stop.
I like the fact that the tool drives the post with such minimum effort in operating it. The hardest part is just lifting the post with the tool on top. At first I thought you were gonna need a ladder to operate it then I just saw them push the button from the ground.
Yeah, I'd have to hire someone taller with more upper body strength than I have to make that happen. Pounding t-posts that end up 5-6 feet tall is my height limit.
I'm east of Albuquerque and our soil is caliche, stone , and rubble with a smattering of old concrete from the route 66 demolition. We put up about 400 feet of 6 foot T-post fence spaced at 6 apart. I was also skeptical but can honestly say I have rarely been that impressed with a tool. The T-posts MELTED into the ground. It was unreal. Took us about a minute a post. I have never been so happy with a 120$ spent Out of all the posts we only had 3 that needed to be repositioned due to obstructions and we kind of knew that area was going to be a PIA. One neat thing is that once you have the post in 90% you can just let the driver rest on top without pulling down and you can shake the post which allows you to tilt it back and forth and bring it to a more perfect level. Also get some mechanics gloves because ooooh boy vibrations.
This was absolutely fantastic. I've never seen a fence like this where no digging was needed. Thank you for posting this!!!! My wife is the handy person in the family and put up a fence in our yard, and the back area has to be re done, and we are definitely going to try this out. Thank you again, and you guys did a great job and were very entertaining at the same time.
Awesome video. For years, I have helped my dad put up different fences. This is by far the best way I have seen. Wish that this system was around 30 years ago. You gained a new subscriber!
Looks great for that location. I live next to Rocky Creek, named for a reason. Walking across my lawn feels like uneven concrete. Driving a T post in a foot usually takes at least three tries and relocations. Big rocks are everywhere.
Cool equipment....though I have rocky soil so was looking for no dig....to avoid rocks. Not sure if that is possible. So, this is no digging...but pounding with fancy equipment. Cool option if you have the right soil and some extra cash for the equipment.
@@komokozie Sorry, I'm a bio-engineer, but still am unable to fix your low IQ level. Try harder; practice makes perfect. It's never too late to attain a fourth grade level of empirical & literacy skills.
Yeah you can watch one of a few hundred SWI builds that aren’t in a place with mostly sandy soil to answer your question. (there are a ton of ones to build this with rocks and concrete everywhere)
Another cracking vid, sir... you looked like you were having the time of your life there😀 The setup with your property is really interesting for us Brits to see as it highlights a difference we have in our boundries/gardens... namely here in the UK we tend to have clearly defined boundry-lines that are usually fenced/hedged or walled and not 'open' such as you seem to enjoy on your side of the pond. I know there are exceptions but it seems to be 'a thing' that is different. Keep it up Sir😎
Thanks so much! Yeah, smaller neighborhood lots tend to be fenced while larger lots tend to not be fenced over here at least in the part of the country where I live.
It only took me 3 or 4 fence videos to put my finger on it, but its no wonder Mark looks familiar 😂 I was already subbed to him and spent a couple nights binge watching a few months ago lol The fence posts are what made it click in my head cause Im pretty sure the first video I saw was him showcasing the newest (at the time) model of postmaster posts
except that what they do (e.g. 4:44) IS digging. You can hit utilities or rocks, so it's not a true "no dig" video -- misleading title, thumbs down. It's just not STANDARD digging
This is a serious question. How much of a difference is there between this and posts/concrete base when soil movement is considered? I truly like the idea of "no-dig" fence because I'm generally lazy, lol. But I'd be worried about post movement 5 years down the road.
Thank you so much for not only showing a genius way to install a no dig fence, but for making me laugh so much, ESPECIALLY at the 14:10 timestamp. That made me laugh so hard, I had to pause it and replay it. . . about five more times. I laughed harder each time. I really needed the information, and a good laugh from your comedy routine. Well done!!!
Kudos to you for doing all that work! I would be the first to say, “I can make that”! But in this case, I myself would just order a load of river rock, have it delivered, and place it where I want it.
Question for you. How well does these posts work in reasonably rocky ground. I need to do a fence and this looks like an awesome way to make a fence go quick. No holes and no concrete. If it holds up to wind as stated, then they'd be great.... but we have tons of rock.
Me Too 😮 I paid $4,800 for professional to put in new fence & posts (wood & concrete) Now, my fence posts are leaning 😡 Don’t recommend Chesapeake fence in Va. !! Oh, they also left all extra concrete pieces when they left & I have dogs & yes they tried to eat it 😡
I am not often impressed with new methods. But this technique has more pros than cons. I am a fan of this project. I want to rent the driver and make this happen asap. Good work guys. I'm gonna call this top notch on the fencing industry. However, I do have a few questions. The metal that you drive into the ground. How long on average does that need replaced compared to pressure treated 4x4s? Where do you get the metal post tamper? Where do you get the metal posts? I think that's about it. Let me know. Thanks guys
Been in/around the fence business for 30+ years. It is an interesting idea, especially for a temporary fence need. We are all about saving time and body. In the varied soils it would be a difficult install. My main issue would be the longevity. It's not super uncommon to have to go fix someone else's concrete installed post due to movement over time with wind loosening the soil around it. I fear you'll have a wavy, loose fence before long. That being said, good video. BTW, There are a couple of other manufacturers that make posts like those.
It would be interesting to see how the fence looked in a couple of years after the 2x4s have had a chance to warp / bow... I replace my cedar privacy fence 14 years ago after a hurricane blew down pretty much every fence in our area... I took my time and everything was nice and straight at that time... These days though, there is a definite dip between the posts, even though it is still structurally sound... Unfortunately, the HOA Nazis have rules that prevent you from using metal posts and rails, so you're basically not allowed to build something that will last for a long time and always look good...
@@dougscott3263 No way will these loosen. There is slight flex in the steel that will give just slightly long before the part under the soil moves, unlike a concrete type of post setting that the entire unit moves from top to bottom.
@@Growmap wind pushing on the fence will eventually loosen the posts. Given time, you would be able to pull them out by hand. Have replaced many fences over the years that have no concrete or any type of footing around the posts They look "good" for maybe a year or in the case of picket or chain link , a couple years, but they can't take any abuse.
Make sure these are allowed in your location before constructing. I know someone who has to remove his entire new fence due to local code. In fact, while checking they discovered his shed wasn't up to code and that also has to go!
@@fadedglory1045 there can be a number of reasons. From ecological reasons to outdated best practice standards. General codes are updated often enough and newer products aren’t known to inspectors so they disallow anything outside the norm. Only instance that I know of where a product was specifically prevented from being used in an area because it’s failure rate was too low was PEX in the Chicago area. The plumbers union prevented it from being allowed in the code because a huge part of their came from bust pvc when freezing temperatures started.
@@dadsquatch79 It's not always that cut and dried a lot of the code in Florida for things like that are to keep it from blowing away in a hurricane and killing your neighbor after it flies through their window.
Oh my gosh I completely lost it whenever he asked for gas you said about an hour after lunch. No gasoline ....😆🤣😂lmao that made me spit up my coffee all over my desk. But seriously I like the way that fence was put up.....thanks again for the laughs..... And you're great videos thanks for posting 😎👍
I would love to see you guys try to build a fence like that here in the southwest. It would not even go in 5 inches when you would have to start digging! Lol
also would not work in Florida unless you are going to pound that post 8 feet plus into the ground. to much sand here making everything shift to easily.
Lmao @ 14:53 I knew it was going to happen and was hoping you'd tilt back, but oh well. Great job! I'll have to talk to my neighbor that owns a fencing company if he ever looked into this
I noticed you used screws. In Florida nails are required. They have better shear strength which helps in hurricane weather. The nails will bend back and forth many times before breaking. Screws snap when bent a couple times.
In that case its back to digging. Unfortunately this isn’t a system that works in all ground conditions. However, the postmasters are still the best post for any wood fence hands down.
Wondering if I could use the metal posts to extend original 2" x3ft metal fence poles.?? Looking to utilize the existing poles to make a 6ft wooden privacy fence.
love my postmaster fence. so clean looking and easy to install. my local rental shop had a Rino driver that i checked with before buying all my fence materials. i did have to make an adapter to fit the driver and the post though. no biggy as i do metal fab as a hobby. ))
@@brettslaathaug4704 that I do not know. i recall the Rino driver i rented was a center 1.75-2" shaft. I did a piece of round pipe with a small flat stock box that covered the top so it drove equally over the whole top.
Great great video. This is sugh a wonderful technique for installing post for a fence. Can someone tell me if this method is approved for Florida high velocity hurricane zones? Would this pass local permit codes in South Florida?
You Have to collab with this guy again, I love the way you guys fight, pinning anything and everything that goes even the slightest bit wrong on the other guy. 😂 That's Gold man 😂
Great vid guys....I like your system...but I wonder why no one seems to weather treat/stain or paint the boards before nailing them. Untreated they seem to warp and shrink awfully fast...thx
Cool video, great work. I own a construction company doing primarily composite deck systems (Fiberon/Trex deck boards/fascia/post sleeves over treated pine framing, with aluminum handrails) - obviously we can't use a tool like this while setting posts for our carriers/girders, but it would have been a huge time saver on the last 2 or 3 privacy fences we did.. Thanks for the cool content.. gonna sub. :)
@@JayBurna420 th-cam.com/video/S34EMCOvJ7Q/w-d-xo.html Check this one out…the big tracked pile driver is what I’m most familiar with in solar but have seen these others.
Yes you should always have the good side facing out of your property, this way the rails are on the inside and make it harder for burglars ect to climb over, the other way round is like a ladder for them to climb over 👍👍
Yes, I thought it was just common practice to have the good side out so the neighbors don't have to see the unsightly rails. Never thought about the climbing over part.
Building fences fo 40 + years, 90% of my customers keep the good side in. Because as much as fences cost these days, they want to be looking at the “good” side, besides if a thief wants in, he’ll get in.
My fence is 2 different ways, good side out facing the street, the rest facing in so I can enjoy it... the neighbors didn't buy it so they get to see the ugly side... behind their trees... they can't see it any way
This is definitely not the practical approach to installing a privacy fence. Maybe In the future, if material and equipment costs Level out, it’ll be a reasonable option for fence builders. Until then, this is unrealistic for almost all builders.
only 45ea @ Lowes in WA state. i just built my fence last month. turned out great and looks fantastic. rented driver from local rental shop. but i did have to make an adapter for the driver. no sweat as i do metal fab as hobby.
I wonder which last longer wood post or galvanised metal? I do like the metal polls to drill the fence wood in just in case you have to replace the wood slates can just unscrew them out to replaces them.
Question! Can we use those posts with other types of fencing? I need to run about 800ft of fencing through the woods... It doesn't need to be a privacy fence.
You did not win me over on this video. This looks like a much bigger pain in the ass than just doing it the normal way. I can see may be replacing one broken post this way
@@wilbertmatthews Not trying to be smart or argue, but I've put up 2 privacy fences in my time. One was 960 feet around the entire back yard, the other just 250 foot up one side of the yard. The system this guy used is WAAAAAYYY easier looking than digging 3 foot holes every 8 foot, mixing and pouring concreate etc. Plus there were a few solid tips there even if you do build one the hard way.
I was all for this until it was mentioned that the driver cost $3k... might make sense for a contractor that does fences for a living, but a typical homeowner won't be able to afford to do this unless you can rent the machine locally(not available in my area).
With the cost of lumber right now I bet this system is becoming way more economic. Spending the money on the tool or quadruple on labor I guess is the trade off?
What if you have an old wood fence that was originally installed with the traditional 5 gallon concrete bucket method? Does the concrete core need to be dug out and removed prior to installing these or can you work around that?
Will those posts go through the hard calciferous limestone in South Texas without any larger tools or posts that will penetrate the hard limestone “soil”?
Never seen a more unfunny guy try so hard to be funny
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Dad jokes 🤣 you wouldnt get em
I laughed several times. I guess that means I'm unfunny too
U got any gas ? Usually an hour after lunch 😂 😮 oh u mean gasoline
Everyone's a critic.
My daughter and I, a 67-year-old woman put a fence like this up in our yard, mind you it was only about 20 ft wide but, I lined up the post she pounded them down with no machine just the pounder and then we had bought pre-made panels and we put the hardware on them lined them up and screwed them in. Our fence is so lovely people compliment it all the time and say it's better than the professional job they had, it's been up for over a year now and standing tall. It took us half a day to do it because we needed to rest between pounding each post.
Sounds awesome! Where can e we see it?
plz show pics!!!!!
I don't know how. I tried to copy/ paste, didn't work.
@@jkwjcw3ify ask yer grandaughter!!!!! plz or what is name of panels u used?
20 ft wide.... you're joking right?! That's like 3-4 panels.... that's nothing to brag about. Try 1.5 acres in clay soil in TX then you can brag all you want.
*miter saw on ground* “i wana do the work the way the avg homeowner would”… *uses tractor and $3000 hammer to build fence*
Tool rental?
@@totallyfrozenThat's just too much common sense for the trolls that just have to complain that an awesome, but expensive, tool is used.
You can rent a tractor and the hammer. The average homeowner rents tools frequently.
@@watcherofwatchers it’s not trolling. He’s absolutely right
The average person can either borrow or rent an augur. Harbor freight sells an affordable unit someone could buy and resell or pawn to recoup some of purchase price or just eat it as a one time purchase
This is any major city or metro area for purchase or rental and someone you’d borrow in a rural IF you didn’t have one
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Getting some one off purpose built machine that less than 10% of the population owns and hardly any tool rental company would buy because you won’t make your money back on the investment
But the average person doesn’t have a tractor or this tool, can’t rent it cheap and isn’t going to be able to find an installer who even has one
This method is a good idea, but if you could just sledgehammer in a base piece as an anchor and screw the rest of each metal post to the anchor, it could be made easier and cheaper.
You guys are solid gold. Most entertaining handyman show so far.
Finally someone who installs the top, mid, and bottom railing CORRECTLY! I had driving by and seeing New Fence with the Railings secured to a piece of 2x4 block, because the Fence Builder didn't measure correctly while setting the Post. Also he installed the Top Railing correctly justblike the middle and bottom rails. I hate when they install the top Railing flat. Over time the Railings will start to bow because they installed them horizontally, installed vertically which has more strength and won't sag/bow! I always screw my Fences and never nail. The nails tends to back out as the wood dries out. Also screwing is also stronger. The only thing with screws is if you have to demo a fence and screws have deteriorate its harder to back them without stripping them because of the rust.
This is so cool! My parents helped me build my fence and there was no no-dig option. We talked about using an auger but alas, it was a shovel and manpower. These posts are impressive!
It's always great to find out new methods to build fences! Fine job!
Been looking for a way to improve my fence without removing any existing posts. Thanks for showing me this.
@Time 4 Change bless my husband. He works so hard. Not only does he work hard everyday and trucking. But when he gets home. He's always running doing working. Actually he just put in a huge gate in our fence, man I wish I would have seen this a few months ago. But it's okay all in good time. My husband is coming home this summer to do some heavy duty chores. I'm so excited. I actually have this in my savings. I want to get it for him.
He has all kinds of tools. I'm always looking for something that'll make life a little easier for him. Then I find it and he already has a tool. Hahahaha 😆 wheeze laugh 😂...
I know he doesn't have this. Nope not at all. I got the excited giggles. Something he doesn't know about or at least, we've watched the same type of videos It's hilarious. We send each other the same videos we have already watched. And we also find out we follow the same type of people.
So he might bring this up and if he does I'm going to get really excited super duper excited.
I had no idea these things existed. God bless him he already works so hard. He needs things to make life a little easier. He'll be turning 60 this year. God love him. I'm so excited. It's a rarity to find something that he doesn't have.
Love love love the idea of a "no dig" fence, BUT, how does this system work in areas where digging an average post hole produces more softball to basketball sized rocks than dirt ? There have been many times when I had to remove rocks the size of a bag of Portland to put a post where it had to go.
This system isn't for that :)
@@kylekoenig4730 Agreed.
I think it'll typically push aside rocks that are similar to softball sized. But much bigger you start to have issues.
Of course no matter how ya do posts it'll suck when you have boulders everywhere
Would it be much different than a cole chisel or hammer drill against rocks? Using that hammer-driver, it may be that these would break through baseball-sized rocks, depending on the steel hardness.?.
I'd imagine if they made the post with a hardened steel on the leading edge and maybe have it somewhat sharpened like a Rock chisel it would go through just fine using an impact driver like they used or even a sledgehammer or post driver
I always watch videos like this and wonder how nobody ever hits rocks when driving posts. I am in NC and we have super hard thick red clay and tons of large rocks under the surface. I cant ever dig a hole without hitting at least one massive rock that takes forever to dig out
Yeah that was my comment. I'm in the Ozarks, a foot underground we have boulders the size of passenger cars. You can't drive a post like that into the ground here. Maybe in subdivisions that are built on several feet of fill, there it should work fine.
We live in Alabama. Fireants, tree roots and rocks. 🤣
Tooele County Utah. Same same.
Las Vegas caliche!
As they said, St. Augustine Florida and sandy soil. Since the yard were void of trees no roots. Good point though
This is a pretty slick way to build a fence. However where I live has very rocky ground. I could see this being a problem trying to go this route for a build.
I’d really love to see this method used in north ga. I’ve dug through concrete that softer than our soil. Especially the areas with granite.
I was thinking the same thing, I'm in south Ga. Lol
Same here in the Arkansas Ozarks with limestone boulders in the ground
Yeah, I was gonna comment, "how amazing it must be to be installing a fence on a planet where rocks don't exist!"
Exactly takes me an hour to bury a chicken
I built a fence at my parents house in Oklahoma. It took two auger bits to dig the holes because the ground (clay) was so hard. I completely wore the first bit dies smooth. Took it back to Home Depot and got another one. I barely got the rest of the holes dug with the second bit.
I have helped build a few fences. And I just never saw one put up with anything like the ease, and lack of mess and fuss. And it actually was one of the straighter and tidier finished jobs I have ever seen as well.
The comparative absence of mess in the yard during the job, would be a significant advantage to anyone who had fussy old women around the place.
I take my hat off to you, gentlemen.
"...anyone who had fussy old women around the place." You mean like *husbands*?
@@amb7440 If the husbands are old enough, yes, there IS science to justify the idea that they become more "womanly" as their old women become more "manly".
This is awesome! I bet Milwaukee will make a battery powered one of those in the near future
At 13:40 I'm chuckling at the efforts to pull up a post by hand and thinking, "Ever hear of a farm jack?"
i love the jigs. too bad i cant fit it in my suitcase when im in the u.s.a ! love your videos guys. watching from Canada
I love seeing how you guys in the USA do things, we still do a lot of digging here in England, and set concrete posts into concrete mix, then have pre made 6 foot wide feather edge wood panels sit on a 1 foot concrete gravel boardl, the cost of which is now around 90 to 120 pounds sterling per 6 foot run or bay, a good 2 man crew can do 20 to 25 bays a day including ripping out old fence, its hard heavy work and I'm glad I am retired , love your humour haxman always a joy watching your vids
Most people in US do it same as you. The steel post method is used by a very limited number of companies.
MY SOIL IS NOT THE SAME AS THIS , ROCKS AND HARD AS A BRICK CLAY .
Lol im here in america and majority of people are not using this machine lmao
Around here, we use 8 ft 4x4 pressure treated pine posts, 8 ft 2x4 pressure treated pine rails, and 6 ft cedar pickets (typically 6" wide) with one nail diameter between the pickets to allow for the wood to expand and shrink when it wet. The posts are set in concrete and optimally the hole for the post is deep enough that you don't have to cut any of it off for it to be even with the top rail. Current price at Home Depot is $12.48 for the 4x4s, $3.97 for an 80-lb bag of concrete (probably one needed per post hole), $7.58 for the 8 ft 2x4s, and $3.74 for the cedar fence pickets.
According to the link he provided for the steel posts, they are currently wanting around $95-100 for the 9 ft ones he said he was using in the video... Compared to around $16.50 if you do it the 4x4 post and concrete way... As a homeowner, you would need to rent that powered post driver which is probably not that much different than renting a powered post hole digger / auger...
I wish we did that here in the US. Would last a lot longer.
that look over at "sub-standard help" f-ing killed me!
congrats on 100k my guy!
Thank you!
Hax was a blast to work though!
@@SWiFence you guys work well off one anothers personalities..i hope to see more of you two together. sub'd to your channel
Looks like a tough job for one person. I can dig a hole and set posts alone
No need for employees to whine about needing more money and more time off in the same day!
@@sixcolors4226
It’s DYI, why would you have employees? Easiest way to build a fence is to hire a fence company
& Muck is not stable 🤔
Post n concrete is better
@@Swanlord05 actually concrete is thee WORST thing to use on wood post. Wood post should be pea stone packed.
A month before Hurricane Beryl, I build a fence with these. Three of the posts I installed in old post holes and filled in with concrete due to underground utility concern. The rest I drove directly into the ground. We ended up getting 85 mph eyewall winds. The ground was so saturated that the hurricane was able to push the fence over about 12 degrees, execpt the concreted posts didn't move, I surmise the concrete presented more surface area to reduce the square inch load against the saturated ground. Anyway, I righted all the in-dirt posts and tamped in dry soil once the ground had dried out some, easy fix, the posts are as firm as before. No posts were bent by the storm. But bulding a fence by driving these things in the ground works great!
Works amazing in ground where you dont need it. That about cover it?
I love this! Lazy fence building, just what I've been hoping for. Next time Mark's in Georgia, maybe he could stop in Tennessee...where EVERYTHING is "Home Depot bucket orange". 😁
You get what you pay for and the effort that it takes.
This post pounder tool is cool but how does it handle when u hit a decent size rook or root that obstructs it's path?
That’s my question as well.
Depends on the rock type. Out west it'd probably just split the sandstone rock. On the east coast where there's granite it'd probably veer off or stop.
Great video! Thanks!
Can you show the strength leaning and pushing on the fence now it’s done?
We used to push t-post into the ground with a frontend loader all day long back in the 80s. Took about 10 seconds per fence post.
Just because of the response to “Do you have any gas?” ……instantly Subscribed.
Love the narrating. It's nice to have a sense of humor when doing projects like this!👍😉
I like the fact that the tool drives the post with such minimum effort in operating it. The hardest part is just lifting the post with the tool on top. At first I thought you were gonna need a ladder to operate it then I just saw them push the button from the ground.
Yeah, I'd have to hire someone taller with more upper body strength than I have to make that happen. Pounding t-posts that end up 5-6 feet tall is my height limit.
I absolutely love your gravel areas. Is it gravel or crush & run? Will you do a video on how to lay gravel or crush and run?
A bit skeptical, how well does this work in a location with lots of rocks and shale?
I was thinking the same thing. Don't think it would work...
@@TheTownWatch Yeah, forget this in Connecticut, affectionately known as the state of rocks.
@@lorikirksted2794 using this method? Thanks for providing insight!
I'm east of Albuquerque and our soil is caliche, stone , and rubble with a smattering of old concrete from the route 66 demolition.
We put up about 400 feet of 6 foot T-post fence spaced at 6 apart.
I was also skeptical but can honestly say I have rarely been that impressed with a tool. The T-posts MELTED into the ground. It was unreal. Took us about a minute a post. I have never been so happy with a 120$ spent
Out of all the posts we only had 3 that needed to be repositioned due to obstructions and we kind of knew that area was going to be a PIA.
One neat thing is that once you have the post in 90% you can just let the driver rest on top without pulling down and you can shake the post which allows you to tilt it back and forth and bring it to a more perfect level.
Also get some mechanics gloves because ooooh boy vibrations.
This was absolutely fantastic. I've never seen a fence like this where no digging was needed. Thank you for posting this!!!! My wife is the handy person in the family and put up a fence in our yard, and the back area has to be re done, and we are definitely going to try this out. Thank you again, and you guys did a great job and were very entertaining at the same time.
These videos are very entertaining . love the little jabs these two handed out.. That Scottish accent 😂👍
Awesome video. For years, I have helped my dad put up different fences. This is by far the best way I have seen. Wish that this system was around 30 years ago. You gained a new subscriber!
Looks good but $59 a post?
@@Mcss-lu5hv Plus The Rhino Multi-Pro XA is $3000
Definitely going this route ! AWESOMELY AWESOME Way to build a privacy fence! You crushed it!
Looks great for that location. I live next to Rocky Creek, named for a reason. Walking across my lawn feels like uneven concrete. Driving a T post in a foot usually takes at least three tries and relocations. Big rocks are everywhere.
Without a doubt the best new tool and fencepost system to date. No dig!
Cool equipment....though I have rocky soil so was looking for no dig....to avoid rocks. Not sure if that is possible. So, this is no digging...but pounding with fancy equipment. Cool option if you have the right soil and some extra cash for the equipment.
yup, 4:44 IS digging...misleading title, thumbs down
@@Pepe_theFurfagFrog exactly...typical TH-cam vid. junk
@@Pepe_theFurfagFrog
I don't get what ur saying... 🤨
I went to that time frame and saw no digging.. 🤔
@@komokozie Sorry, I'm a bio-engineer, but still am unable to fix your low IQ level. Try harder; practice makes perfect. It's never too late to attain a fourth grade level of empirical & literacy skills.
Yeah you can watch one of a few hundred SWI builds that aren’t in a place with mostly sandy soil to answer your question. (there are a ton of ones to build this with rocks and concrete everywhere)
2:41 "... you know what kind of wind we get. It just blows." Wow. This is quality content. 🤣
Another cracking vid, sir... you looked like you were having the time of your life there😀
The setup with your property is really interesting for us Brits to see as it highlights a difference we have in our boundries/gardens... namely here in the UK we tend to have clearly defined boundry-lines that are usually fenced/hedged or walled and not 'open' such as you seem to enjoy on your side of the pond. I know there are exceptions but it seems to be 'a thing' that is different. Keep it up Sir😎
Thanks so much! Yeah, smaller neighborhood lots tend to be fenced while larger lots tend to not be fenced over here at least in the part of the country where I live.
Does home Depot or Lowe's rent thosev
It only took me 3 or 4 fence videos to put my finger on it, but its no wonder Mark looks familiar 😂 I was already subbed to him and spent a couple nights binge watching a few months ago lol
The fence posts are what made it click in my head cause Im pretty sure the first video I saw was him showcasing the newest (at the time) model of postmaster posts
I have built several sections with postmaster I still use post mix on solid fences to mitigate wind. On pasture open fence your system rocks
Great looking fence! Fantastic no dig setup. Congrats on 100K subs! It’ll be a million in no time.
Thank you so much!
except that what they do (e.g. 4:44) IS digging. You can hit utilities or rocks, so it's not a true "no dig" video -- misleading title, thumbs down. It's just not STANDARD digging
This is a serious question. How much of a difference is there between this and posts/concrete base when soil movement is considered? I truly like the idea of "no-dig" fence because I'm generally lazy, lol. But I'd be worried about post movement 5 years down the road.
Depends on your location.
Situationally effective though.
No...a better question is ''what about rocky soil?''
If the fence structure has enough strength and rigidity, soil movement should not affect it.
Thank you so much for not only showing a genius way to install a no dig fence, but for making me laugh so much, ESPECIALLY at the 14:10 timestamp. That made me laugh so hard, I had to pause it and replay it. . . about five more times. I laughed harder each time. I really needed the information, and a good laugh from your comedy routine. Well done!!!
how can you say it was no dig when clearly they're digging the poles in??
I know your in Florida but how well do those posts stay straight in a place that the ground freeze’s and thaws ?
Kudos to you for doing all that work! I would be the first to say, “I can make that”! But in this case, I myself would just order a load of river rock, have it delivered, and place it where I want it.
Question for you. How well does these posts work in reasonably rocky ground. I need to do a fence and this looks like an awesome way to make a fence go quick. No holes and no concrete. If it holds up to wind as stated, then they'd be great.... but we have tons of rock.
Exactly if you go into a rock what are you going to do?
U probably need to dig that hole n take the rock out the hole
Man, wish I had known about this a few weeks ago. Very nice and sturdy!
Me Too 😮 I paid $4,800 for professional to put in new fence & posts (wood & concrete) Now, my fence posts are leaning 😡 Don’t recommend Chesapeake fence in Va. !! Oh, they also left all extra concrete pieces when they left & I have dogs & yes they tried to eat it 😡
I am not often impressed with new methods. But this technique has more pros than cons. I am a fan of this project. I want to rent the driver and make this happen asap.
Good work guys. I'm gonna call this top notch on the fencing industry.
However, I do have a few questions.
The metal that you drive into the ground. How long on average does that need replaced compared to pressure treated 4x4s?
Where do you get the metal post tamper?
Where do you get the metal posts?
I think that's about it.
Let me know. Thanks guys
Are the stakes approved in Miami Dade County Florida? Necessary for Hurricain Codes.
Hows this system hold up to super rocky soil... like "once was river bed" soil..?
Been in/around the fence business for 30+ years. It is an interesting idea, especially for a temporary fence need. We are all about saving time and body. In the varied soils it would be a difficult install. My main issue would be the longevity. It's not super uncommon to have to go fix someone else's concrete installed post due to movement over time with wind loosening the soil around it. I fear you'll have a wavy, loose fence before long. That being said, good video. BTW, There are a couple of other manufacturers that make posts like those.
It would be interesting to see how the fence looked in a couple of years after the 2x4s have had a chance to warp / bow... I replace my cedar privacy fence 14 years ago after a hurricane blew down pretty much every fence in our area... I took my time and everything was nice and straight at that time... These days though, there is a definite dip between the posts, even though it is still structurally sound... Unfortunately, the HOA Nazis have rules that prevent you from using metal posts and rails, so you're basically not allowed to build something that will last for a long time and always look good...
I agree... without the concrete poured around the posts they will loosen up in the soil over a few years and be swaying in the breeze.
@@dougscott3263 No way will these loosen. There is slight flex in the steel that will give just slightly long before the part under the soil moves, unlike a concrete type of post setting that the entire unit moves from top to bottom.
If it was temporary, how would you pull those posts back up?
@@Growmap wind pushing on the fence will eventually loosen the posts. Given time, you would be able to pull them out by hand. Have replaced many fences over the years that have no concrete or any type of footing around the posts They look "good" for maybe a year or in the case of picket or chain link , a couple years, but they can't take any abuse.
This was the most entertaining video I’ve watched in a very long time. Learned a lot also. Nice Job guys
Make sure these are allowed in your location before constructing. I know someone who has to remove his entire new fence due to local code. In fact, while checking they discovered his shed wasn't up to code and that also has to go!
It's almost as if you don't own your own property. Free my ass...
@@dadsquatch79 exactly! What would be the reasoning behind not allowing this? One has to ask.
@@fadedglory1045 there can be a number of reasons. From ecological reasons to outdated best practice standards. General codes are updated often enough and newer products aren’t known to inspectors so they disallow anything outside the norm. Only instance that I know of where a product was specifically prevented from being used in an area because it’s failure rate was too low was PEX in the Chicago area. The plumbers union prevented it from being allowed in the code because a huge part of their came from bust pvc when freezing temperatures started.
@@dadsquatch79 It's not always that cut and dried a lot of the code in Florida for things like that are to keep it from blowing away in a hurricane and killing your neighbor after it flies through their window.
best advice I can give as well is to call A surveyor before you build , last thing you want to do is build over your property line
I've been building fence for 30 years and these guys have quality work but still no substitute on not digging holes
What size post did you use for this 6 foot high fence?
Oh my gosh I completely lost it whenever he asked for gas you said about an hour after lunch. No gasoline ....😆🤣😂lmao that made me spit up my coffee all over my desk. But seriously I like the way that fence was put up.....thanks again for the laughs..... And you're great videos thanks for posting 😎👍
😂 So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
100k subs! Love it man! Well deserved. And the content is always on point even to us experienced handymen. ✊🏼
Thank you so much! I appreciate that!
BS fence, aint gonna last.
I wonder how good that post driver would work on ground where you hit rock every three inches?
It wouldn't, it would break the machine and probably bend the pole.
Was thinking the same thing. In
SWMO that would not work.
@@MrTellurien yup
Now that is definitely what I need. I'm constantly fighting the North West winds, snow blown, rain and hail storms blowing me timbers.
I dug 28 holes in my backyard last summer. Built a fence and a deck. Let’s go!!
I would love to see you guys try to build a fence like that here in the southwest. It would not even go in 5 inches when you would have to start digging! Lol
also would not work in Florida unless you are going to pound that post 8 feet plus into the ground. to much sand here making everything shift to easily.
concrete block wall
You're killing me! "Not till like, an hour or so after lunch." 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Lmao @ 14:53
I knew it was going to happen and was hoping you'd tilt back, but oh well. Great job! I'll have to talk to my neighbor that owns a fencing company if he ever looked into this
First time watching any fencing videos and this was a great recommendation TH-cam 👌🏽 y’all also fun !
I noticed you used screws. In Florida nails are required. They have better shear strength which helps in hurricane weather. The nails will bend back and forth many times before breaking. Screws snap when bent a couple times.
What happens when you have big under ground rocks like we have in Connecticut.
In that case its back to digging. Unfortunately this isn’t a system that works in all ground conditions. However, the postmasters are still the best post for any wood fence hands down.
Move
@@stephenmayo2916 😂😂
You crack me up! I love the humor in your videos. You have my "pernision" to keep up the good work!😂
😂 Thanks!
How does this do in heavy, HARD, dry clay soil?
Well, that shit's like concrete so not very well.
Awesome video. Super cool of SWI to share some of his Pro Tips with us. Subscribed.
Wondering if I could use the metal posts to extend original 2" x3ft metal fence poles.?? Looking to utilize the existing poles to make a 6ft wooden privacy fence.
Rather than drilling, I would have used some self tapping screws.
love my postmaster fence. so clean looking and easy to install. my local rental shop had a Rino driver that i checked with before buying all my fence materials. i did have to make an adapter to fit the driver and the post though. no biggy as i do metal fab as a hobby. ))
Do you know of different pounders that are compatible?
@@brettslaathaug4704 that I do not know. i recall the Rino driver i rented was a center 1.75-2" shaft. I did a piece of round pipe with a small flat stock box that covered the top so it drove equally over the whole top.
Would love to see a video of building this fence on a slope.
Try using a wrap around spirit level! If you pull on the posts when in the ground , are you not loosening the posts?
Great great video. This is sugh a wonderful technique for installing post for a fence. Can someone tell me if this method is approved for Florida high velocity hurricane zones? Would this pass local permit codes in South Florida?
Make sure you call for locates first. Hit a power line or a gas line with one of those & it won’t end well
What if you hit a rock?
Very entertaining and informative. Reminds me of to old friends working together on a project.
You Have to collab with this guy again, I love the way you guys fight, pinning anything and everything that goes even the slightest bit wrong on the other guy. 😂 That's Gold man 😂
Great vid guys....I like your system...but I wonder why no one seems to weather treat/stain or paint the boards before nailing them. Untreated they seem to warp and shrink awfully fast...thx
Cool video, great work. I own a construction company doing primarily composite deck systems (Fiberon/Trex deck boards/fascia/post sleeves over treated pine framing, with aluminum handrails) - obviously we can't use a tool like this while setting posts for our carriers/girders, but it would have been a huge time saver on the last 2 or 3 privacy fences we did.. Thanks for the cool content.. gonna sub. :)
They make post drivers for round and square wood posts!
Options for 3-point tractor, skid quick attach, or full stand alone machine
@@IronSharpensIronPv27.17 seems like forcefully driving a wood 4x4 post into the ground would be a lot tougher than driving a slim steel post. 🤷🏻♂️
@@JayBurna420 check this video pounding round posts th-cam.com/video/m9EZ-fi2WaA/w-d-xo.html
@@JayBurna420 th-cam.com/video/S34EMCOvJ7Q/w-d-xo.html
Check this one out…the big tracked pile driver is what I’m most familiar with in solar but have seen these others.
Subscribed!!! awesome fence, love the idea. As a new home owner I love seeing stuff like this!!
Yes you should always have the good side facing out of your property, this way the rails are on the inside and make it harder for burglars ect to climb over, the other way round is like a ladder for them to climb over 👍👍
Yes, I thought it was just common practice to have the good side out so the neighbors don't have to see the unsightly rails. Never thought about the climbing over part.
Building fences fo 40 + years, 90% of my customers keep the good side in. Because as much as fences cost these days, they want to be looking at the “good” side, besides if a thief wants in, he’ll get in.
My fence is 2 different ways, good side out facing the street, the rest facing in so I can enjoy it... the neighbors didn't buy it so they get to see the ugly side... behind their trees... they can't see it any way
In Florida I prefer holes filled with concrete for hurricane season but hey that method is pretty neat
I love your videos! They’re fun, entertaining, and informative! Great sense of humor! 😂❤️👍👍
Use 2 levels next time, or a post level. :)
I didn't realize they had a handheld driver for those posts!
Don't You Mean Plumb ? Dumb ?
Don’t push a SHART OUT trying to get that post pulled up 😂😂
🤣
60$ per post is over my budget on posts. It’s nice though
This is definitely not the practical approach to installing a privacy fence. Maybe In the future, if material and equipment costs Level out, it’ll be a reasonable option for fence builders. Until then, this is unrealistic for almost all builders.
+$3000 pile driver
Where I come from we just push them in by hand. 💪
Those posts sell for around $40 a piece in Cali.
only 45ea @ Lowes in WA state. i just built my fence last month. turned out great and looks fantastic. rented driver from local rental shop. but i did have to make an adapter for the driver. no sweat as i do metal fab as hobby.
@@millroyboy07 what’s unrealistic? I build this way every job
I wonder which last longer wood post or galvanised metal?
I do like the metal polls to drill the fence wood in just in case you have to replace the wood slates can just unscrew them out to replaces them.
Question! Can we use those posts with other types of fencing? I need to run about 800ft of fencing through the woods... It doesn't need to be a privacy fence.
You did not win me over on this video. This looks like a much bigger pain in the ass than just doing it the normal way. I can see may be replacing one broken post this way
Says the guy who never built a fence obviously.
@@dclausing that's all you can muster. You're a joke. Youre just conning newbs to buy this crap.
@@wilbertmatthews Not trying to be smart or argue, but I've put up 2 privacy fences in my time. One was 960 feet around the entire back yard, the other just 250 foot up one side of the yard. The system this guy used is WAAAAAYYY easier looking than digging 3 foot holes every 8 foot, mixing and pouring concreate etc. Plus there were a few solid tips there even if you do build one the hard way.
I mean it may be easier, but a heck of a lot more expensive. Between 80-120 per post. Ten times the amount money wise.
Ive done fence for a living and I agree. I worked on a 2 man crew and we were way faster than that machine.
I was all for this until it was mentioned that the driver cost $3k... might make sense for a contractor that does fences for a living, but a typical homeowner won't be able to afford to do this unless you can rent the machine locally(not available in my area).
Rent the driver
@@WarchildWarchild-gh8lr any idea who rents them out?
@@WarchildWarchild-gh8lr
I'll have to see if I can...don't recall anybody renting them out
With the cost of lumber right now I bet this system is becoming way more economic. Spending the money on the tool or quadruple on labor I guess is the trade off?
@@krisbuildit5149
It very well could be more economical....need to sit down and calculate this fence per foot vs traditional fence...
I wish you would have show the strength of the fence by pushing on it when you finished. Seems like a lot of weight for those post to handle.
These posts are specifically engineered for this purpose. We have very strong winds in WY, near hurricane strength, and have never had a post failure
What if you have an old wood fence that was originally installed with the traditional 5 gallon concrete bucket method? Does the concrete core need to be dug out and removed prior to installing these or can you work around that?
Will those posts go through the hard calciferous limestone in South Texas without any larger tools or posts that will penetrate the hard limestone “soil”?
Not everybody has one of these pounder inners laying around for use of installing a fence. Anybody can install fence or do a project with right tools.
Why didn't you just take a post jack or a hi-lift and pop that post out of the ground and put it in the right direction?
I’d love a fence like that around my yard.
Missing how to do corners and gates. Thanks for leaving in all the "mistakes".😀