"An empire toppled by its enemies can rise again. But one which crumbles from within....that's dead. Forever." ~Zemo For an average villain, he knew how to BREAK them.
Michael Rivers Zemo is in my top 3 favorite MCU Villains. He's the most relatable on a bunch of different levels. He has no powers, he's not a God, he's an ordinary soldier, he's not a robot, etc. He's almost a more relatable version of the Joker. A man who just came out of nowhere, that could almost be anyone.
The Line that Spider-Man gives when he says "When you can do the things I do, but you don't, and *THEN* the bad things happen, they happen because of you." Should be a win since it shows that Uncle Ben has been dead for a while and it was because Peter didn't stop the robber beforehand. And he still feels responsible.
Kind of ironic he's supporting Tony Stark since the Accords conflict with those ideals. Of course I believe Tony is manipulating him a bit by not giving him the full details. Simply "He wrong but thinks he's right so that makes him dangerous" as Spider-Man told Captain America in their fight.
It's implied that it hasn't been long. Uncle Ben probably died only a few months before Civil War. Peter says something along the lines of "I don't want to give Aunt May any more to worry about right now" in Homecoming. The loss of Ben is still fresh.
sure, but couldn't it be easier to say what ben would want don't get me wrong I do not want to loose tom holland EVER. But the way the mcu sees characters like aunt may compared to the comics is just not as natural.
In an interview I think Mackie said the rivalry between Falcon and Soldier is because Bucky destroyed his car in Winter Soldier. I know character motivation offscreen is usually a sin, but I thought the pettiness deserved a win.
One of my favourite lines in the MCU is "I don't care, he killed my mom." Why? Because we know all about his relationship with his dad, we've been hearing about it since day one. All we've seen of his mum is her talking to him at the beginning in a hologram, but that one line tells you everything. It's not "my parents", it's not "my mum and dad". It's his mum, who was probably the only one (bar Pepper) who genuinely supported him without ulterior motive when he was growing up. Just... Urgh.... Gets me every time.
@@Ella-it3qm To be fair, we don't know when mcu rhodey and tony first became friends, it could have been before or after tony began working with the military as it's go to high end arms dealer, but either way the films never tells us. However in the first iron man film when tony has the revelation that weapons kill "good guys" to and he decides no more stark tech weapons for anyone, the first thing rhodey does is scold him over the decision and basically says get your head in the game. So while rhodey is 100% team tony now, he wasn't always firmly in tony's corner.
C Bowman if I’m remembering correctly, they became friends at MIT, which was before Pepper. And I don’t remember rhodey acting like that in im1, but while we are on the topic of scolding him for his decision, Pepper did worse and abandoned him when he tried to build another suit. Which she did again in im3 when his anxiety was revealed
@Laurens Brettschneider imo it's hard to think of someone who just figured out their parents were murdered in cold blood (instead of a car accident, as he had believed for decades) and is facing off with that exact killer (whether he was brainwashed or not) as "bratty"... tony isn't reacting like a spoiled child being told he can't have what he wants. he's literally just reacting with the gut instinct of a child to hurt the person who killed his beloved mother. rather than labelling it bratty, i'd say his reaction/wording was completely understandable.
@Laurens Brettschneider You know what else isn't appropriate, not telling your friend how his parents really died for 2 years. And even then he still wasn't the one who told Tony.
I think a lot of people overlooked the line 'I don't care, he killed my mom'. Even after his dad says that tony was his greatest creation it still shows the amount of distance between them
I think there's a real missed win here worth at least 5. Throughout all the movies we've learned that the arc reactor is a symbol for Tony's heart, and here the way cap stops the fight is literally breaking his heart.
“I don’t care. He killed my mom.” That hit me hard. He never ever has mentioned his mom when he talks about his parents. He brings up his dad but never his mom. I felt like THAT emotional barrier he has not come to terms because he loved her unconditionally while him and his dad had some bitter moments. Honestly at that point I knew Tony was going to do whatever he can to avenge his mom’s death. Logic and reason be damned, he killed his mom. Powerful stuff. Remember this is a comic book movie. Jeez.
As someone who is a mamas boy. Even if the man responsible for the death was my friend or one of my friends buddy. I'd do the same thing as Tony. You killed my mother. There is no excuse. And I will never forgive you. God this movie this film has some of the best dialogue and scenes I don't care what anyone says.
@@yoshijb9428 i understand having an initial freak out like Tony but i think being not in control at all of your actions is an excellent excuse. Hydra (specifically who ever gave that order) is to blame, the winter soilder is just the weapon they used to do it.
@@-s-henderson-7333 exactly. Although it didn't help for Hydra to no longer be present for tony to aim his anger at. Bucky was the only one left although his mom def got the easier side of the stick than Howard's savage beat down
Having recently watched the film again, I noticed something about the scene where the Winter soldier kills Tony's parents: as he picks up Howard Stark, Howard says "Sergeant Barnes?" which really changed the scene for me. The idea that someone else recognized Bucky who would be considered an old friend right before they got brutally killed was both a tragic betrayal and upsetting that Bucky didn't even realise it was Howard due to age so it didn't make any difference to the Winter soldier. That scene hits differently now
Not necessarily Bc remember Bucky didn't know Howard that well at all. Steve and Howard worked much more closely together. Bc notice Howard said "sergeant Barnes"? And not "Bucky?" His friends called him Bucky.
@@megmur1766 Also, Bucky didn't even remember who HE was, due to his brainwashing. Remember how close he came to killing Steve in Winter Soldier? The lights were on, but 'Bucky' definitely wasn't home. The Winter Soldier didn't know, or care, who either of them were. It's impossible to imagine what it would be like to remember actions that you had no control over at the time. As you said, Bucky wasn't particularly close to Howard during the war, but the memory of killing someone you knew, and seeing the pain you unwillingly caused their family, has to be immensely painful. The worst part is that the people who were actually responsible, the ones who gave the order to kill Howard and take the serum, probably got away with it all.
@@fedeeeeee Yes, but he was only a handler, and still following someone else's orders, too. He just did it willingly, unlike Bucky. An order like that probably came from pretty high up, especially as the Winter Soldier wasn't used for just any mission. We don't know if Pierce was in charge at this point, or if someone else gave that order. Which means that they may well have gotten away with it, and retired to live out the rest of their days in luxury. They may even have been one/some of the people on Bucky's list in FATWS, but since that was dealt with offscreen (ugh, don't get me started on THAT) we'll probably never know.
I'd like to add on another win here if I may, that someone on tumblr pointed out! When Spiderman catches Bucky's metal arm, you'll notice his eyes widen, and he actually lets Peter speak rather than counter attack. In the MCU, where literally anything can catch Bucky's arm, that's not what he's surprised by; he's shocked that Peter is just a kid. He's never seen Pete's face, and this is the first time he's heard his voice. It may look like he's just standing there to wait for Falcon to come in, but in reality he's pausing for a moment to take account of the fact he's fighting an actual kid, a kid who should be in school and be doing his homework, not dealing in grown-up stuff like this. Bucky's always been one to stand up for the little guy, and now he's fighting the little guy.
"Is it so hard to imagine that he had multiple plans and back up plans?" finally, someone gets it. I mean, the guy spent an entire year studying the avengers, he has plenty of time to plan things out.
They're acting like the guy had one plan and somehow they all turned out perfectly even though its never like that, amazes me that people just watch mcu movies and dont analyze or look into anything, honestly
In the final battle, Tony's only goal was to kill Bucky in vengeance. Bucky and Steve never had the intention of killing him, only stop him from killing, and i think in that final moment where Tony raises his hands it shows that he misread their intentions and its a big pill for him to swallow, that he was willing to kill when they were not
I'm disappointed you didn't win Bucky's panic at seeing the book. He knew what was gonna happen when he saw it. And he tried to fight it. Sebastian Stan really nails it.
Civil War is vital to the Infinity Saga. If Thanos faced Iron Man and Captain America united, with everyone at their backs, he wouldn't have stood a chance. But because they were so broken, it was easy for Thanos to pick them apart and take on smaller groups. Anyone that stands by the 'Civil War didn't matter' argument is objectively wrong.
No,he would,because thanos would have had 4 stones before facing the avengers,making him unstoppable,the only changes is tony calls cap in new york,meaning they never go to titan,they all go to wakanda,take out the mind stone safely so that wanda can destroy it,BUT meanwhile Thanos already has the space,power,soul and reality stones,making him unstoppable,meaning despite him not getting all stones,he would kill all the avengers in wakanda,every last one of them,conquer earth,kill half of its population and continuing to doing that to every planet,meaning Zemo saved the universe from Thanos without knowing or Strange can give the time stone to thanos in enxchange to spare the ones that are alive,allowing him to get the mind stone and snap,the problem is that way more people would have died,making Endgame fate not a sure thing for the avengers to win
@@alphagamer9505 Alternately, Tony calls cap into new york, which he was plausibly in greater proximity to, and the team rolls in there, successfully beating Ebony Maw and Black Dwarf before hijacking their ship with the whole team in tow, including vision. Some techno-babble from Tony and Peter later for how they hijacked the ship, they're able to set up a better plan than the one that almost beat Thanos in the real sequence of events, and actually do beat him because of it, especially because Thor would still show up, but at wherever the trap was, the army doesn't go to earth since Vision was in space, and there are plenty of people to put Star Lord into a full nelson while people pull the gauntlet off of Thanos' hand. :D
TevesGaming They were ABSOLUTELY friends. Friends don’t always have to be on the same page. Two different paths to the same goal still achieves that goal. But there was an affection that Tony and Steve had for each other. Their differences were philosophical, but that doesn’t mean that they didn’t care about each other. You saw that in, literally, every subsequent film. Particularly Endgame. These two men genuinely cared about what the other one thought.
Surprisingly enough, one of my favourite characters in this film was Rhodey. I loved how he came to the conclusion they should stick to the accords because he's a normal guy who wants to trust massive organisations like the UN, he doesn't see himself as above them. And I also love how he was the main casualty in the fight, giving it all a human layer and a unique perspective that the superhumans/billionaire geniuses didn't have.
The fall is a great scene especially in theaters. He’s hit and as soon as he says “I’m dead stick” he realizes it. He can’t eject, there’s no equipment so he can’t time the fall or land “correctly” (as correctly as you can at height) and you only hear the wind through the eyeholes.
I just LOVE the way Wanda's expression changes regarding Ant Man after he compliments her. She was like "hmm" before and after she's all smily. Also I love her smile, it's such a good smile it makes me instantly smile too.
When Captain America admits to knowing that Bucky killed Tony’s parents, you can even see the glisten of tears in his eyes, from the guilt he feels for not telling him. Amazing acting
I really think that Chris should've gotten an oscar or something for his performance as Captain America. The character is an extremely difficult role to play and is very complicated and complex; on paper Captain America is probably a character I wouldn't have liked that much because he seemed so self-righteous but Chris's performance seemed so natural and it gave the character a lot of depth. Plus the fact that he is nothing like the character really speaks volume to his acting performance. I'm not trying to diss anyone but for mcu actors like RDJ who play a character like Iron Man who they are actually really similar to, it's easy for them. But when it comes to a character like Captain America who doesn't even seem human and no one could be similar to him because of how perfect he is, it's difficult to play that kind of role yet Chris did it amazingly. All the actors in mcu are amazing and they all deserve awards for their performances but Chris definitely deserves it more than most.
@@mish2637 Agreed! Chris Evans' acting and the Russos' direction really made Capt America one of the best/popular superheroes in the MCU. It was so well done.
When Tony jerks towards Bucky right after finding out the truth about his parents, if you watch closely as Bucky steps back and brings up his gun, (15:59), you can truly see the pain in his eyes as it really hits him that the horrendous actions of the Winter Soldier are, in part, his actions. You can see the weight of this burden fall on him as he, most likely for the first time, begins to realize the pain he has caused Tony and so many others, a burden he will perhaps carry with him for the rest of his life. This moment, as short as it may be, is absolutely incredible and a real display of Stan's talent. That split-second alone is worthy of a win.
Olivia Rose Sebastian Stan is especially great in this movie overall. You can really feel the torment that he has, and how it weighs upon him. You can really feel how much remorse he has, and how he’s frightened. He embodies Bucky’s character perfectly.
"Zemo is a weak villian" literally did the one thing that no other villian could do until then Not loki (even with the use of the hulk) Not ultron (even with the use of the hulk) And...um...am i seeing a pattern here?...
Cinema Sins can be funny, especially with bad movies, but sometimes they really stretch what is a "sin". Cinema Wins is better because you actually break down why a movie is enjoyable, even if it is considered "bad" by a lot of people.
One of the best little nods in this movie was definitely showing the ease with which Spiderman caught Winter Soldiers arm. Spiderman is so much above Cap, Winter Soldier and the other "regular" humans in pure strength that it's not even slightly a competition. The thing keeping him down in this fight was lack of experience and you could see that in the choreography. Once Cap, Bucky etc. understood how much stronger Spidey is than them they noticeably changed to more trick and experience based fighting from brute strength and it payed off. Marvelous (sorry) little thing to show in the movie.
I dunno, while you'd be right in the comics, in the movies, Cap comes pretty close to Spidey strength. I mean, Spider-man is definitely stronger but come on, Cap was able to hold down a moving helicopter.
As a German, I have to admit I found it wonderful that they tried hard to not americanize the locations or even the background details. I've seen that happen in a lot of movies, sadly. Like, in 5:14, when you see Zemo reading the Hydra book, that news broadcast is actually German. Not even the language, but the channel and their news. Even the anchorwoman is the usual one! Such a minor detail, I know, but I love it. I'm sorry :D
No Love well in iron man one they talked the exact urdu when subtitles mentioned (speaking urdu) marvel really cares about that stuff... i remember in batman first movie ra al gaur speaks urdu it was littrally just mumbling
Rafay Monam Ras al Ghul would speak arabic as his background is based somewhere in the Arabian Peninsula. His name is also made of Arabic words. The Ten Rings soldiers in Ironman 1 speak Urdu because they’re from somewhere in Afghanistan
DH Shawon dude all i m saying is that the official subtitles say that he is speaking urdu while he never actually spoke urdu and tbh i also learned a little bit arabic and i can also tell that they way he talks is also not arabic
He's stunned because barely anyone can do that, let alone a 16 year old kid that Bucky realizes is in danger because he's in a serious fight, so it's just sort of weird
"Oh, Vision, you indestructible being, you".....Until you're, um, not. Also, there's a video out there of Stan Lee doing an interview about meeting Tom Holland, and he told Tom "Oh my God, you're perfect, you're exactly how I pictured Peter Parker" I can't think of any higher praise for an actor looking to join the MCU.
Am I the only one who noticed the utter desperation in Tony's assistant's voice? When she says, "You can't beat him hand to hand!" I get chills, every time. It's like F.R.I.D.A.Y.'s tone of voice reflect's the character's emotions.... I don't know, it's just something I noticed.
F.R.I.D.A.Y. should have just done the "Analyze his attacks" bit from the start. He can totally counter Cap that way. And does. Why he didn't do it earlier is another story.
Tony wasn't entirely prepared to kill Cap at first. It was only when Cap REALLY started hurting him that Tony realised it was all or nothing to avenge his parents. In short, Tony made the decision too late to be of any help in the final seconds. To avoid being one-sided, I think both characters match each other. Sure, Iron Man has a fancy suit with lots of gadgets, but aside from being smarter and stronger than your average man, he relies on his suit very much in fights. Cap on the other hand is extremely powerful and doesn't rely on the suit or suchlike - its more or less his ideology that can bring him down (he nearly died to Bucky in the final fight in TWS because he refused to kill his friend; unlike Tony in this situation, he wasn't really prepared to kill, at least not until something terrible happened to Bucky).
Mr-Earwig yeah... Tony really didn't want to kill cap. I don't even know, whether he ever chose to go for the kill... Even pretty much at the end he tells cap to stand down, and that'S when the whole fight is almost over already.
Zemo is interesting because he's just.. your normal guy. He doesn't have some super robot suit. Or superhuman strength. He doesn't have unexplained perfect accuracy or insane combat skills. Zemo is just clever, brutal, and patient.
Definitely one of my favourite MCU films. I don't know if it's just me, but I just loved how weary Tony looked throughout the film, possibly looking back to his PTSD seeing as he no longer has Pepper to stabilise him. Which would further his need to keep the Avengers together, just so he can sleep
chris evans and RDJ had amazing performances in this movie. the part where tony watches the footage of his parents getting killed and his interaction/fight with cap after is amazing
I get that CinemaSins is more popular, (and slightly more comedic?) but I'm really glad this channel exists. The contrast of CinemaWins and Sins is important. It's always good to stop looking at all the problems and glimpse at the things done right every now and then. That said, every EWW (Everything Wrong With) I watch, I will also watch an EGA (Everything Great About) of the same video, provided that CinemaWins has it.
Bronson Strock Right! People always want to trash both channels when in reality they both are necessary when watching a movie. And I'm the same way, I watch every EWW and I'll watch the EGA if there's a Cinemasins video about it already
To be brutally honest, I don't know why they haven't made a joint channel. The reviews would be fair, praising and criticising films in unbiased ways. Also, both commentators are very humorous in their own ways, which would make for pleasant reviews. Imagine how good it would be to actually have something like that in the movie industry.
Cinema Sins are often quite deceptive in their videos and their material should not be a substitute for real film criticism. This channel has a far better eye for cinema and their comedy never misrepresents the film. I really don't think they'd work well collaboratively.
You're entitled to your opinion of course but Sins was never laugh-inducing for me... Not that Wins makes me roll on the floor laughing but to its credit it makes me feel good about the movie it deals with. Sins was meant to be comedy, something that makes people laugh and not only ah wasn't laughing at narration & lack of realism being labeled a sin but eventually it got annoying.
Fun fact about the tunnel chase sequence: That's almost all practical effects. They really are running in that tunnel, on strips of material being dragged behind some of the cars which allows them to literally run faster than the traffic. And the scene where Bucky catches the bike and mounts it was also practical. :D
The reason I like your channel far more than CinemaSins is because it mostly nit-picks on stupid stuff and just ignores explanations for things given in the movies itself. Plus I think you do a great job in actually analyzing these movies and to find what the makers were actually trying to show . This channel is highly underrated.
Neha The Jedi Agreed, this channel clearly has the actual film school education behind it. It's darker sibling just tends to rant, albeit recently seems more satirical in nature.
"Wouldn't be a Russo MCU film without someone losing an Arm Star Wars Style" Re-watching in 2019 when you realise groot lost his arm in Infinity Wars which was also directed by the Russo Brothers. Interesting
Zemo isn't a weak villain, if anything he's the smartest. He went after the emotional crux of the primary members of the Avengers and turned them against each other, the only thing he didn't seem to count on was Black Panther being as level headed as he was. Also, Zemo is returning as a villain in the Falcon & the Winter Soldier so we get to see more of him
You forgot one. The fact that Crossbones's need for revenge that resulted in the catalyst of the movie happening. Revenge was the point of the first and final conflict
That point bothered me Cross Bones was proved in the last movie he was a Hydra agent and as a Hydra agent he would have wanted Steve to be dead anyway so even with out the ass kicking Cross bones received in the last movie he would have wanted Cap plus all the Avengers to die. and Hydra was created before Steve ever became a super soldier and if The founding Shield members would have killed Armin Zola Hydra would have been defeated in the first movie. The reason Cap even becomes a Super Soldier is because Dr. Abraham makes the Super Soldier serum and gives to the guy who becomes Red Skull. and then Cap gets the Super Soldier serum because he just wants to help people and does not care about the glory which also the reason Peggy starts to get endeared by Steve. And if Shield would have killed Zola instead of letting him go free Bucky would have never became the Winter Soldier thus saving Tony's parents and pretty much getting rid of the existence of Iron man and Tony becoming less of a dick because his mom is still alive so most of his enemies would not have a reason to try and get revenge on him. Thor would still probably come to earth because that changes nothing that happens on Asgard. Hulk probably still exists. Cap still gets found in the Ice but because Zola was killed Hydra does not infiltrate shield. also Steve and Howard get to have a cool reunion. So if Dr Abraham does not create super soldiers the MCU is just full of human conflict for the most part. and all 3 Iron mans are erased Cap 2 is erased because there is no Hydra infiltrating shield and no Bucky. the first Avengers happens just with no Iron Man. Age of Ultron is gone thus we get no Vision. Civil War does not Happen. Thanos can still be searching for the Infinity Stones and that would still lead him to earth most likley thus we get the Infinity Wars but with out iron Man and Scarlet Witch they would probably loose. So everything that happens throughout the MCU save us from Thanos wrecking everything.
*"if Shield would have killed Zola instead of letting him go free Bucky would have never became the Winter Soldier "* Zola had already performed some experiments on Bucky by the time he fell out of the train (how else could he have survived the fall?), and that mission was the one where Zola was *captured.* If SHIELD had killed Zola at that point, Bucky would probably still have become the Winter Soldier anyway.
I love when Steve says, "She's a kid!" because it shows how much he really cares about Wanda. Steve sees her as a girl whose been fighting since she was 10, and she's still trying to handle battles, as seen in Age of Ultron and Steve wants her to be the little kid she didn't get the chance to be.
And how Toney calls her a weapon of mass destruction, possibly aluding that he views her as the woman who made his best friend kill people against his will and took him away from him
But Steve also gets Wanda involved in his mess ........I don't see a reason for suddenly Clint and Wanda and ant man coming in the fight ...coz they had literally no motivation to do it....and I really think Wanda would have been more save in avengers facility with vision
@@shivanim1158 One of my only problems with Civil War is that few of the characters have chosen sides because of what they believe. Other than Tony and Steve, and to a lesser Rhodey, Sam, and Vision. But even the latter three are kind of just following their personal allegiance. If Steve weren't involved Bucky would've been on Tony's side, T'challa is in it for revenge, Peter is following Tony, Clint is following Steve, Scott is following Captain America, and Natasha is inherently hard to pin down anyway.
@Damia Savon, dont forget that cap was the one who actually took the time to talk to wanda like an adult, but still be comforting at the same time. tony and vision feared wanda's powers, whereas cap and clint respected them which would have been important when it came to wanda picking a side.
@@paullew4853 Am i wrong for wanting more Winter Soldier than Falcon? Don't get me wrong i liked seeing Sam's personal life issues but Bucky's seems of course way more tragic and interesting
@@zacharyjackson1829 the writers, I do believe, said when the title changes to captain America and the winter soldier, was deliberate. They said Bucky still has some development left to truly be the White Wolf
I absolutely love Peter’s huge grin in the end credits scene because it absolutely embodies Peter’s childlike enthusiasm. Also I love Rhody’s commentary to the “Tony Stank” nickname “Yes,This is Tony Stank,you’re in the right place. Never letting that go by the way. Table for one Mr.Stank please by the bathrooms.” Than Tony’s joyful laugh in response to his best friends enjoyment of his embarrassment over the nickname.
The only thing I didn't like was that this was considered a Captain America film. They easily could've made this an Avengers film and give Cap a movie about what happened to him after Civil War
Im glad someone finally has a good reason for this argument. But the problem is that the 3rd Captain America Film was supposed to be about him vs. some serpent organization that dresses like snakes. That sounds like it would be really boring. When the Russos heard of BvS, they switched it to Civil War instead. Im so glad they did, because we got an amazing breakup of the Avengers rather than just a standard solo movie against some serpents.
If it was an avengers film bucky would have definitely died. The plot armor Bucky had in this movie is huge, because the main character was on his side.
I didn't notice this until I saw it in this but when cap swings down on iron man, tony covers his face meaning he thinks that cap would kill him which shows how much he distrusts him now
he picked it up for bucky, saving him has always been his mission, and once he achieved that, he didn't need the shield anymore. a really goose bump giving moment in the movie.
purple fynn I'm not sure I understand what you mean by he picked it up for Bucky. He picked it up out of habit because he's Captain America. His being Cap has nothing to do with Bucky.
No, he was protecting himself and his best friend from a guy in armored suit that tried to kill said friend. You know who was the villain in this scene? Tony. He attacked to kill, while Steve and Bucky wanted to disarm him. And by doing so proved what a hypocrite he was all along, being pro accords and crying that 'vigilanty is bad' and 'superheroes need to be held responsieble for their actions' just to ignore it and try to kill a guy that killed his parents. Has he a right to be angry - yes, but attacking a man that was brainwashed into being a human waepon and should not even be considered a murderer ('cos he had no choice or agency one can argue that Bucky should be considered innocent).
CinemaSins: "This scene doesn't contain a lapdance" CinemaWins: "This actress is so pretty" * shamelessly swoons at male characters * My point being: wholesome. relatable. objectively better.
CinemaSins has always been garbage. I'm glad channels like CinemaWins and TheBirdman are out there to expose them for what they are. Clickbaiting, low quality content pushing assholes
@@SwiftyNinjasGaming It *was* satire. What it's turned into can't seem to make up it's mind about what it is. James Gunn even said, "You should still be accurate about what your satirizing, otherwise it's just shitty satire". TheBirdman (Even with all his whinging about SJW this and snowflake that) pretty handedly rips cinemasins to shreds over inconsistencies and things they get just plain wrong. Cinemsins is just about shitting all over everything and pretending to be precise and consistent, but when they screw something up, they hide behind being satire in order to defend themselves from criticism.
Hey dude, i just found you channel and i gotta say, it's really good. You put a lot of things into fair perspective without fabricating your evidence, and it adds up to a more wholesome experience. Your videos don't degrade movies at all; in fact, i think that people like you are the reason that filmmakers do what they do. You are quite aware of the effort put into movies and you give a lot of credit where it is due. Critics really need to take notes from your channel. Keep up the good work.
I really agree. It doesn't make up silly things that aren't in the movie. Just fairly looks at the positive side and what a movie does right. Feel people have gotten too negative, myself included. Movies have flaws, but...why not celebrate the great things they do?
Jasper Marcus Well, they put him in Bucharest because the actor that plays Bucky is actually from Romania, and Bucharest is the capital. It was a little nod towards Sebastian Stan, the actor. But I guess you could say Buck arrest too 😂
I like Visions "equation" because it's practically the same thing ultrun had been proposing: maybe the world would be better off without them? It's cool in particular because vision and Ultron are so different, but are able to come to some understandings, like the scene with Vis and the last ultron in the woods. Vision doesn't always agree, but he and ultron can somewhat understand each other, and now he is really, really really really subtly continuing Ultron's effect on them all: whether it be tony's conscious, or the battle in sokovia, or the whole point of Ultron being bad, It shows how he has just as much affect on the MCU as Loki, or thanos, or any other villain, even though I hear him get thrown under the bus in favor of other characters. Super cool
I feel like there’s a missed win for the scene that gets two wins at 10:09. We’ve seen Bucky punch with his non-metal arm before, and there is zero reason to believe it would be ineffective, but he just kinda stares at Peter. He knows Peter is a kid, especially after he talks, and you can see it in his eyes. I love the detail with that, and how good Sebastian Stan is in that moment. Of course, it’s kinda basic sense to not punch kids, but Tony brought him here anyway, so I still think Bucky deserves a win for caring about the fate of someone clearly on the other side
Lily O I think he was just shocked at how strong he was. He would’ve tried incapacitating him, but since he figured he had an enhanced physiology like he did, that he’d be fine. He was also likely pulling and throwing the punch slower so that it wouldn’t seriously harm him.
V33 SSB Dude, Spider-Man was shown almost instantly stopping a car with zero effort earlier in the movie. He just treated his metal arm as if it were a plaything. Bucky would have broken his own wrist while doing zero damage if he managed to punch Spider-Man. Don't know why you think he's weaker arm wouldn't be ineffective when his metal arm was useless.
I believe that Stan Lee's cameo at every MCU film is related. - Stan Lee was a WWII veteran who's father was a general (Captain America) - In "The Incredible Hulk" he drank Banner's blood - In "Thor" he was revovered probably when he pulled of the bed of his truck - In "Avengers" he was probably tired living in New Mexico, so he moved to New York and even appeared in deleted scenes - In "Iron Man 3", I guess Tennessee was his home state or he visited his relatives in christmas and took a opportunity to be a judge in a local beauty pageant contest - In "Thor: The Dark World" it is unclear how he got into mental ward hospital and what reason - In "Captain America: Winter Soldier" he probably got tired of being retired and become a guard in Smithsonian but loses his job after Steve stole his suit. - In "Avengers: Age of Ultron" he, as a veteran, appeared at the party in Avengers Tower, and drinking. Probably because he lost his job because Steve Rogers. - In "Ant Man" he moved to San Francisco and got a job as a bartender - He probably lost his job as bartender too because as stated in "Captain America: Civil War" he is now a delivery guy.
Chris Allen I was gonna type a list out of what changed, but my tablet is messing up, so here's the long version: screenrant.com/captain-america-civil-war-mcu-changes/ But I doubt you'll be convinced because haters gonna hate.
Does anyone noticed that captain America had his Avengers Badge stick on his shoulder when he fought crossbone but, after that he doesn't? He ripped it of when they started to separated, so much details...
JustYellow On that subject, I love how the symbols on Cap's shoulders change throughout the MCU in correspondence with where he is in his story. In First Avenger, it's a star, signifying his trust is in his country. Then in Winter Soldier, it's S.H.I.E.L.D.'s crest, showing that his trust has shifted from the country as a whole to S.H.I.E.L.D. specifically, in a way showing how he's being lead down the wrong path. Once he learns the truth about S.H.I.E.L.D. (& the government as a whole), he goes back to the star, showing that he now trusts an idealized version of America. However this trust doesn't last (it can't with him), so he replaces the star with the Avenger's logo, signifying that he trusts his team, until in Civil War when even that starts to falter. Finally, he goes patchless, showing that sadly, Cap only trusts himself, & even then not completely. Fuck I love these movies.
This movie was amazing. I remember when I saw this movie in the theater, seeing Cap and Stark exchanging punches with the impending booming music playing in the background. *SO GOOD*
This is the one movie that I want to watch for the first time again. I remember having tears in my eyes when I saw the two teams running at each other with the badass music playing because of how fucking awesome it was. I still feel something whenever I watch that scene, but it's not the same as the first time.
When Tony “eyeballs it,” he’s in the same position Obadiah Stane was when Obadiah was trying to kill Tony back in Iron Man 1, reflecting Tony’s abandoning his morals and sinking down to villain-like status in the fight. That became one of my favorite details in this movie when I noticed it. Though, unlike Obadiah, he hits the shot. So Tony isn’t ALL bad.
I guess there's going to bound to be some personal opinions leaking in on which one you liked more. If you had issues with Civil War then you'll likely be more fond of Cinema Sins but those who really dug it will more enjoy Cinema Wins. So I guess that means I'm obviously more on the later but yeah I really loved Captain America 3 and much prefer this video as honestly felt like Cinema Sins and heck even honest trailers were desparately looking at things to nitpick to go "okay I know DC fans think we're Marvel Fan boys for hating on BvS and other things but hey look we can do the same to Marvel movies" except their points just feeling forced. Hell Cinema Wins pretty much broke down why Zemo's plan not only ins't overly convoluted but really works for the movie and isn't just concidence after concidience like others tried to say it is.
You know how CinemaSins did a CinemaSins on CinemaSins, CinemaSins should do a CinemaSins on CinemaWins while CinemaWins does a CinemaWins on CinemaSins. Try saying this 10X fast.
So, this is kind of late, but I don't care. The music during the airport fight scene plays it as a tragedy, the Avengers are literally tearing themselves apart in front of us and the music tells us as much.
3:45 I believe that the accords/oversight would actually increase the escalation of villainy. Villains would take advantage of how the avengers would be severely restricted in when and where they could respond. I'm team cap on this one
take the looks on the events they use for the accords. if they had their way New york would be a radioactive wasteland. millions killed, and major trade up destroyed affecting all the world's economy. so the Avengers damage is far less and thus the lesser evil. the Hekicarriers. we know they released all the sheild files. and what they said those ships launch and 20 million people are dead. msot who actually die are hydra agents and the damaged limited to the sheilds location. so again lesser evil. Sokovia is their only defense and even there it's not the Avengers fault but TONY'S maybe the worlds sicne they failed to capture all hydra agents. the Wanda incedent. they are goign aftger another hydra agent and they think bank robbery but turns out it's him going after a bio weapon. and her move only 14 die were if on the ground at least 100 are dead, maybe more if she wasn't there. also the accords can not stand legal muster. what we know of them vioaltes at least one US constutional right and vioaltes a couple UN human rights so it has no standing.
I totally disagree. If the Avengers aren't as omnipresent anymore, the incentive to measure up to them and try to beat them would go immensely. So while the world might not have fewer villains in total, it would definitely have fewer "supervillains" who try to match the Avengers in power level.
@@doomse150 I don't think that's the issue. They didn't even try to negotiate with the avengers. They just all got together, put together 300 pages and demanded they comply. That's not how you facilitate trust or begin a partnership with some of the most powerful ppl on the planet. And Thor is literally a god. How did they plan on making him comply exactly? It was just stupid strong handed tactics and it didn't have to be.
"Obviously I expect them to reconcile before the huge conflict of Infinity War, or more likely, Thanos's arrival will have the UN begging for Cap to lead the Avengers again." When you do Everything Great About Infinity War be sure to give them a win for subverting expectation since neither of these things happens. Love your stuff!
To be honest, it would be really great if we would have a puppet master, master planner and bond like villain like zemo again in the MCU, we have enough comic booky "super"villains that we need more of the grounded powerless ones.
Can we also take a moment to appreciate the song choice for spidermans intro? A british band that got popular in the states just before we see a british actor portray an american character, and dare i say, a british actor who is or will be popular in the states?
The moment where Steve & Sharon snog is just great for the reactions of Bucky & Sam in that they represent his past and present. Also the fact that in real life all 3 are a tight unit.
My only problem with the "I'm going to sit here, so you're going to move that leg." scene is you can see RDJ look towards the camera basically saying "Don't cut, I got this."
Aida Baida even though this version of Tony Stark is based on Superior Iron-Man (where he was an actual bad guy intent on controlling the world)? I understand why people like the actor and the comedy of his dialogue... but people actually like the character of Tony Stark? He's a grade A douchebag that wouldn't give you the time of day if you ever met him in real life... how can people like someone like that?
14:18 at this point in the movie, my dad my brother (who were on either side of me) leaned in and said “I could do this all day” and since I haven’t seen Captain America in years, it took me a second to understand that reference. Ah, they are such big Marvel nerds
Something I think is interesting about the scene where spiderman catches bucky's arm. There's the look of shock on Bucky's face but I don't think it's cause the arm was stopped, that happens quite a bit. I think rather it's that he just hears spidermans voice and goes, wait a minute this is a kid? and doesn't really wanna just start swinging at a kid.
“The government creation no longer trusts the organization that made him, and the self made genius rebel is now looking for that organization to hold him accountable.” golden description 👏
Tony should have known his parents were killed from the massive data dump in Winter Soldier. That's how cap found out. General Ross shouldn't be lecturing anyone on civilian casualties since he shot up a university and took out half of Harlem with the Abomination. Plus all the other damage he created trying to capture Banner.
Civil War is definitely my favorite superhero film for 2016. The loyalties and friendships that are broken leaves a huge emotional mark and also a new judgement on their convictions. Infinity War will continue this thread until Thanos arrives on Earth to take the stones from Vision and Doctor Strange.
The reasoning for the two arguments makes sense when you consider the wars Tony and Cap remember. Tony might just about remember Vietnam and was present in Afganistan. So he thinks a civilian casualty is avoidable. Cap saw and lived through WW2 and the devistation that wrought on Europe. He knows you can't save everyone. Just some thoughts there!
Imagine being named Moneymaker and not having money? You're not supposed to shame poor people but that's like being called slamma jamma and not being able to dunk the ball.
Vision: Our very strength invites challenge, challenge incites conflict...conflict breeds catastrophe. Yoda: Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate...leads to suffering.
10:29 I NEVER NOTICED THAT! Now it feels even more powerful when he learns how to use his Peter tingle in far from home because we're usually not aware of our senses. Having the Spideysense would take quite the while to actually control but they're showing that he obviously already has it.
He was right Chadwick Boseman is the best person to play the Black Panther and i dont think anyone else can play Black Panther as good as Chadwick Boseman. R.I.P Chadwick.
considering how complicated the plot is, with this many actors, I'd forgive its mistakes and indeed place it goddamn close to a perfect 5/7 (It's a joke, it means 10/10)
2:24 It's also an action on wanda's part that from a utilitarian perspective, or any reason based moral perspective, is completely justified. The blast would have been no smaller on the ground, and in the middle of a busy market clause would have killed as many or more innocents. Plus it would plausibly damage structural supports on surrounding buildings, potentially taking the entire buildings with the . She didn't know she'd lose control, she couldn't know. The point is simple, she did the right thing, and the Avenger's decreased civilian casualties to the greatest extent possible.
Devin Gendron Maybe so, but it was still her mistake that she accidently led him into the side of a building rather than in the open air directly above the marketplace, and any person whose mistakes carry a body count needs something to be done about it. The government can't (or shouldn't) just go "oopsie-daisies" and then just pretend it didn't happen.
honestly, I don't have anything against Wanda in that particular scene... yeah she lost control, but she was trying to save people - she actually did... accidentally while doing so she killed others. I don't know if it had been more or less casualties without her, but she wasn't left with much of a choice besides trying to save them. However I'm going to argue, that they shouldn't have fought there to begin with... I mean... couldn't they have properly evactuated around the crime scene. or not let the villain run into the most crowded area ever... seems like a big blunder on the teams part.
Cap's the only character so far with a consistently good trilogy. The Iron Man sequels weren't that good, neither of the Thor movies were that impressive.
9:54. I like how in this scene, before Scott turns around it doesn't look like Wanda is smiling, she's just standing there stoically. But after Scott compliments her we see her smiling. She clearly needed that confidence boost.
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12:38 Shout out to Scott Lang for being the only person to ever be insulted once by Tony Stark and not turn into a batshit crazy villain.
fr tho
Yet
Tony's insulted literally everyone though, so I don't think that really counts
@@sara-vf5xz you have a point
LMAO
"I expect them to reconcile before the huge conflict of Infinity war..."
*Honey, you've got a big storm coming*
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"An empire toppled by its enemies can rise again. But one which crumbles from within....that's dead. Forever." ~Zemo
For an average villain, he knew how to BREAK them.
and his plan even worked, unlike other super villains plans, lol
Michael Rivers Zemo is in my top 3 favorite MCU Villains. He's the most relatable on a bunch of different levels. He has no powers, he's not a God, he's an ordinary soldier, he's not a robot, etc. He's almost a more relatable version of the Joker. A man who just came out of nowhere, that could almost be anyone.
@@spaceapricot4855kind of at least. The team did get back together eventually...too bad it took, "The Snap," to get that ball rolling
The Line that Spider-Man gives when he says "When you can do the things I do, but you don't, and *THEN* the bad things happen, they happen because of you." Should be a win since it shows that Uncle Ben has been dead for a while and it was because Peter didn't stop the robber beforehand. And he still feels responsible.
Ya Boy Guzma right. Even if he isn’t directly referenced, his presence is still there
100th like ik it doesn't matter but it feels goos :)
Kind of ironic he's supporting Tony Stark since the Accords conflict with those ideals. Of course I believe Tony is manipulating him a bit by not giving him the full details. Simply "He wrong but thinks he's right so that makes him dangerous" as Spider-Man told Captain America in their fight.
It's implied that it hasn't been long. Uncle Ben probably died only a few months before Civil War. Peter says something along the lines of "I don't want to give Aunt May any more to worry about right now" in Homecoming. The loss of Ben is still fresh.
sure, but couldn't it be easier to say what ben would want don't get me wrong I do not want to loose tom holland EVER. But the way the mcu sees characters like aunt may compared to the comics is just not as natural.
In an interview I think Mackie said the rivalry between Falcon and Soldier is because Bucky destroyed his car in Winter Soldier. I know character motivation offscreen is usually a sin, but I thought the pettiness deserved a win.
Dread Pirate Robin XD That sounds like something Sam would say
@MASON ZWILLING hi
Can you move your seat up?
...No.
@@wingedbluj1674 I love how this was repeated in TFATWS
...... That's one of the pettiest things in all of superhero cinema and i love it.
I really liked Peter’s excuse for his injuries: a fight with a guy from Brooklyn named Steve and his big friend. Not a single lie
One of my favourite lines in the MCU is "I don't care, he killed my mom." Why? Because we know all about his relationship with his dad, we've been hearing about it since day one. All we've seen of his mum is her talking to him at the beginning in a hologram, but that one line tells you everything. It's not "my parents", it's not "my mum and dad". It's his mum, who was probably the only one (bar Pepper) who genuinely supported him without ulterior motive when he was growing up. Just... Urgh.... Gets me every time.
Olivia McDonagh rhodey...?????
@@Ella-it3qm To be fair, we don't know when mcu rhodey and tony first became friends, it could have been before or after tony began working with the military as it's go to high end arms dealer, but either way the films never tells us. However in the first iron man film when tony has the revelation that weapons kill "good guys" to and he decides no more stark tech weapons for anyone, the first thing rhodey does is scold him over the decision and basically says get your head in the game. So while rhodey is 100% team tony now, he wasn't always firmly in tony's corner.
C Bowman if I’m remembering correctly, they became friends at MIT, which was before Pepper. And I don’t remember rhodey acting like that in im1, but while we are on the topic of scolding him for his decision, Pepper did worse and abandoned him when he tried to build another suit. Which she did again in im3 when his anxiety was revealed
@Laurens Brettschneider imo it's hard to think of someone who just figured out their parents were murdered in cold blood (instead of a car accident, as he had believed for decades) and is facing off with that exact killer (whether he was brainwashed or not) as "bratty"... tony isn't reacting like a spoiled child being told he can't have what he wants. he's literally just reacting with the gut instinct of a child to hurt the person who killed his beloved mother. rather than labelling it bratty, i'd say his reaction/wording was completely understandable.
@Laurens Brettschneider You know what else isn't appropriate, not telling your friend how his parents really died for 2 years. And even then he still wasn't the one who told Tony.
"Since RDJ was cast as Iron Man, there has not been a better casting than Chadwick Boseman for T'Challa" R.I.P. Chadwich 🕊
R.I.P
Mmmmm I love black Panther meat on my Chadwiches
@@Adirondaque what? It’s a pun?
Except for maybe Chris as Thor?
@@andywu1981 it’s a very... not cool pun I mean CHADWICK’S DEAD
I think a lot of people overlooked the line 'I don't care, he killed my mom'. Even after his dad says that tony was his greatest creation it still shows the amount of distance between them
Damn, i almost forgot that, thanks for that good of a explanation!
Sort of. Tony knows his father was killed because of what he was involved in. His mother was innocent.
@Lodogg 3323 WHY DO YOU SAY THAT NAME!?
The emotion in his voice when he said that, sounded like a scared grieving child to me. Great line read
Jack Burton they were both innocent but I understand what your saying
I think there's a real missed win here worth at least 5. Throughout all the movies we've learned that the arc reactor is a symbol for Tony's heart, and here the way cap stops the fight is literally breaking his heart.
I love finding gems like this in the comments
Damn, I never thought of it that way
Holy shit that's awesome. And sad. Imma go cry now.
Nicholas Dobbie you're breaking my heart dude stop
Nicholas Dobbie Why are you cutting onions? :'(
“I don’t care. He killed my mom.” That hit me hard. He never ever has mentioned his mom when he talks about his parents. He brings up his dad but never his mom. I felt like THAT emotional barrier he has not come to terms because he loved her unconditionally while him and his dad had some bitter moments. Honestly at that point I knew Tony was going to do whatever he can to avenge his mom’s death. Logic and reason be damned, he killed his mom. Powerful stuff. Remember this is a comic book movie. Jeez.
As someone who is a mamas boy. Even if the man responsible for the death was my friend or one of my friends buddy. I'd do the same thing as Tony. You killed my mother. There is no excuse. And I will never forgive you. God this movie this film has some of the best dialogue and scenes I don't care what anyone says.
@@yoshijb9428 i understand having an initial freak out like Tony but i think being not in control at all of your actions is an excellent excuse. Hydra (specifically who ever gave that order) is to blame, the winter soilder is just the weapon they used to do it.
@@-s-henderson-7333 exactly. Although it didn't help for Hydra to no longer be present for tony to aim his anger at. Bucky was the only one left although his mom def got the easier side of the stick than Howard's savage beat down
The TH-cam comment section sure is full of murderers.
@Anne :3
What do you mean by that?
Having recently watched the film again, I noticed something about the scene where the Winter soldier kills Tony's parents: as he picks up Howard Stark, Howard says "Sergeant Barnes?" which really changed the scene for me.
The idea that someone else recognized Bucky who would be considered an old friend right before they got brutally killed was both a tragic betrayal and upsetting that Bucky didn't even realise it was Howard due to age so it didn't make any difference to the Winter soldier. That scene hits differently now
Not necessarily Bc remember Bucky didn't know Howard that well at all. Steve and Howard worked much more closely together. Bc notice Howard said "sergeant Barnes"? And not "Bucky?" His friends called him Bucky.
@@megmur1766 Also, Bucky didn't even remember who HE was, due to his brainwashing. Remember how close he came to killing Steve in Winter Soldier? The lights were on, but 'Bucky' definitely wasn't home. The Winter Soldier didn't know, or care, who either of them were. It's impossible to imagine what it would be like to remember actions that you had no control over at the time. As you said, Bucky wasn't particularly close to Howard during the war, but the memory of killing someone you knew, and seeing the pain you unwillingly caused their family, has to be immensely painful. The worst part is that the people who were actually responsible, the ones who gave the order to kill Howard and take the serum, probably got away with it all.
@@laxxla yeah I think that's what screwed Bucky in the end. He was the last one left that tony could aim at.
@@laxxla the dude who have Bucky the order to kill Howard and Maria was killed by Zemo at the start of the movie
@@fedeeeeee Yes, but he was only a handler, and still following someone else's orders, too. He just did it willingly, unlike Bucky. An order like that probably came from pretty high up, especially as the Winter Soldier wasn't used for just any mission. We don't know if Pierce was in charge at this point, or if someone else gave that order. Which means that they may well have gotten away with it, and retired to live out the rest of their days in luxury. They may even have been one/some of the people on Bucky's list in FATWS, but since that was dealt with offscreen (ugh, don't get me started on THAT) we'll probably never know.
I'd like to add on another win here if I may, that someone on tumblr pointed out!
When Spiderman catches Bucky's metal arm, you'll notice his eyes widen, and he actually lets Peter speak rather than counter attack. In the MCU, where literally anything can catch Bucky's arm, that's not what he's surprised by; he's shocked that Peter is just a kid. He's never seen Pete's face, and this is the first time he's heard his voice. It may look like he's just standing there to wait for Falcon to come in, but in reality he's pausing for a moment to take account of the fact he's fighting an actual kid, a kid who should be in school and be doing his homework, not dealing in grown-up stuff like this. Bucky's always been one to stand up for the little guy, and now he's fighting the little guy.
Row Vine that’s actually really cool, never thought of that
Damn you're so right lmao
THIS
*Ding!*
I like to think he stopped his counter attack when he found out he was fighting a kid. Winter Soldier experience aside, he doesn't want to hurt kids.
"Is it so hard to imagine that he had multiple plans and back up plans?"
finally, someone gets it. I mean, the guy spent an entire year studying the avengers, he has plenty of time to plan things out.
I honestly don't understand why people cannot understand that...
People are obsessed with hindsight
They're acting like the guy had one plan and somehow they all turned out perfectly even though its never like that, amazes me that people just watch mcu movies and dont analyze or look into anything, honestly
Going to like but 666
nestlecookie right
When Cap raises his shield to perform the last attack, Tony covers his face, the maybe think that cap would kill him, which is pretty sad IMO
Or it's just a natural instinctual reaction to Cap's shield coming at him so quickly.
Nah, the sadder part was the look on Tony's face when he realized cap went for his arc reactor without hesitation
@@nostalgicotaku2977 their objective was to stop his suit, not truly harm him.
I guess you could say Cap practically broke his heart
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In the final battle, Tony's only goal was to kill Bucky in vengeance. Bucky and Steve never had the intention of killing him, only stop him from killing, and i think in that final moment where Tony raises his hands it shows that he misread their intentions and its a big pill for him to swallow, that he was willing to kill when they were not
I'm disappointed you didn't win Bucky's panic at seeing the book. He knew what was gonna happen when he saw it. And he tried to fight it. Sebastian Stan really nails it.
Sebastian Stan is an extremely underrated actor.
Sebastian Stan is one of the best actors of this decade. Especially in the falcon and the winter soldier wakandan scene
Civil War is vital to the Infinity Saga. If Thanos faced Iron Man and Captain America united, with everyone at their backs, he wouldn't have stood a chance. But because they were so broken, it was easy for Thanos to pick them apart and take on smaller groups. Anyone that stands by the 'Civil War didn't matter' argument is objectively wrong.
Gonna show this to my bf because he thinks civil war was a useless movie 🤡
100th like!
No,he would,because thanos would have had 4 stones before facing the avengers,making him unstoppable,the only changes is tony calls cap in new york,meaning they never go to titan,they all go to wakanda,take out the mind stone safely so that wanda can destroy it,BUT meanwhile Thanos already has the space,power,soul and reality stones,making him unstoppable,meaning despite him not getting all stones,he would kill all the avengers in wakanda,every last one of them,conquer earth,kill half of its population and continuing to doing that to every planet,meaning Zemo saved the universe from Thanos without knowing or Strange can give the time stone to thanos in enxchange to spare the ones that are alive,allowing him to get the mind stone and snap,the problem is that way more people would have died,making Endgame fate not a sure thing for the avengers to win
So civil war is crucial because it allowed the avengers to win in endgame
@@alphagamer9505 Alternately, Tony calls cap into new york, which he was plausibly in greater proximity to, and the team rolls in there, successfully beating Ebony Maw and Black Dwarf before hijacking their ship with the whole team in tow, including vision. Some techno-babble from Tony and Peter later for how they hijacked the ship, they're able to set up a better plan than the one that almost beat Thanos in the real sequence of events, and actually do beat him because of it, especially because Thor would still show up, but at wherever the trap was, the army doesn't go to earth since Vision was in space, and there are plenty of people to put Star Lord into a full nelson while people pull the gauntlet off of Thanos' hand. :D
Why the hell is the line “He’s my friend.”
“So was I.” Not like five wins
Because it hurts to hear him say it!
Because they weren’t really friends?
TevesGaming They were ABSOLUTELY friends. Friends don’t always have to be on the same page. Two different paths to the same goal still achieves that goal. But there was an affection that Tony and Steve had for each other. Their differences were philosophical, but that doesn’t mean that they didn’t care about each other. You saw that in, literally, every subsequent film. Particularly Endgame. These two men genuinely cared about what the other one thought.
@@kcwells2751 ....Stony shippers😏
TevesGaming dumb bitch
“There has not been a better cast than Chadwick Boseman for T’Challa”
yeah.. we know :(
Oof
May he rest in peace!
Rip
Yeah we know
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Anyone else miss Jarvis? I mean he had so much personality for an AI. I mean Friday's okay, but Jarvis has a special place in my heart.
Jarvis grew a spine. Just like tony told him to.
I honestly like Friday she has the best line " you can't beat in hand to hand combat"
Man, Jarvis was so great in the Agent Carter show.
He really deserved a credit in Endgame with the rest…
Surprisingly enough, one of my favourite characters in this film was Rhodey. I loved how he came to the conclusion they should stick to the accords because he's a normal guy who wants to trust massive organisations like the UN, he doesn't see himself as above them. And I also love how he was the main casualty in the fight, giving it all a human layer and a unique perspective that the superhumans/billionaire geniuses didn't have.
I think you mean genius billionaire playboy philanthropists
everyone say thank you rhodey
you definitely know he was not a casualty and was healed by Wakandan doctors, yes?
The fall is a great scene especially in theaters. He’s hit and as soon as he says “I’m dead stick” he realizes it. He can’t eject, there’s no equipment so he can’t time the fall or land “correctly” (as correctly as you can at height) and you only hear the wind through the eyeholes.
but that is a stupid stance form asoilder. he knows first hand how useless the UN is.
The fact that you didn't win
"Jesus, Tony, how old is this kid?"
"I don't know, I didn't carbon-date him, he's on the young side!"
I DIED
tony's sass is the best
Man the humor in marvel movies was just a lot more fun
I just LOVE the way Wanda's expression changes regarding Ant Man after he compliments her. She was like "hmm" before and after she's all smily. Also I love her smile, it's such a good smile it makes me instantly smile too.
Elizabeth Olsen has reached the “when she smiles I smile, when she cries I cry” pantheon like Natalie Portman.
Scott Lang approves so we have no choice but to Stan
Down. Bad?
@@WeezerFan505 down bad, i wasn't based 1 year ago. but i still think that scene is funny
She's the embodiment of :]
When Captain America admits to knowing that Bucky killed Tony’s parents, you can even see the glisten of tears in his eyes, from the guilt he feels for not telling him. Amazing acting
No, no. He didn't know it was Bucky. He says as much. But he knew it wasn't an accident, he knew it was Hydra
@@Ikajo But he suspected it might have been Bucky. That's made clear in the scene in the Winter Soldier. Zemo only confirmed it.
@@sara-vf5xz Suspected wasn't knowing. And Steve wasn't the only one who knew. Natasha did as well and she never said anything either.
I really think that Chris should've gotten an oscar or something for his performance as Captain America. The character is an extremely difficult role to play and is very complicated and complex; on paper Captain America is probably a character I wouldn't have liked that much because he seemed so self-righteous but Chris's performance seemed so natural and it gave the character a lot of depth. Plus the fact that he is nothing like the character really speaks volume to his acting performance. I'm not trying to diss anyone but for mcu actors like RDJ who play a character like Iron Man who they are actually really similar to, it's easy for them. But when it comes to a character like Captain America who doesn't even seem human and no one could be similar to him because of how perfect he is, it's difficult to play that kind of role yet Chris did it amazingly. All the actors in mcu are amazing and they all deserve awards for their performances but Chris definitely deserves it more than most.
@@mish2637 Agreed! Chris Evans' acting and the Russos' direction really made Capt America one of the best/popular superheroes in the MCU. It was so well done.
When Tony jerks towards Bucky right after finding out the truth about his parents, if you watch closely as Bucky steps back and brings up his gun, (15:59), you can truly see the pain in his eyes as it really hits him that the horrendous actions of the Winter Soldier are, in part, his actions. You can see the weight of this burden fall on him as he, most likely for the first time, begins to realize the pain he has caused Tony and so many others, a burden he will perhaps carry with him for the rest of his life. This moment, as short as it may be, is absolutely incredible and a real display of Stan's talent. That split-second alone is worthy of a win.
Olivia Rose Sebastian Stan is especially great in this movie overall. You can really feel the torment that he has, and how it weighs upon him. You can really feel how much remorse he has, and how he’s frightened. He embodies Bucky’s character perfectly.
I couldn't agree more!
Yup
ENDGAME SPOILER⤵
I thought this when i noticed how sad he was a Tony's funeral in Endgame. He never apologized to Tony, who just saved the universe.
Zaya Moone Ouch...my heart. 😭
"Zemo is a weak villain"
Say that to the guy that destroyed the Avengers and granted Thanos his win.
"Zemo is a weak villian" literally did the one thing that no other villian could do until then
Not loki (even with the use of the hulk)
Not ultron (even with the use of the hulk)
And...um...am i seeing a pattern here?...
ahem star lord
@surfitlive xD i think the hulk benched himself in infinity war after the beginning xdd
surfitlive nah the real factor is hawkeye, every fight he’s in he wins
Jim Bob Jason if only he hadn’t taken that break to go have a month long game of tag with his childhood friends. Then we wouldn’t have endgame.
Cinema Sins can be funny, especially with bad movies, but sometimes they really stretch what is a "sin". Cinema Wins is better because you actually break down why a movie is enjoyable, even if it is considered "bad" by a lot of people.
bell110 Cinema Sins is the best with the Fast and Furious franchise.
They nailed it with #FF8
Thats kinda their job they've said over and over they nitpick needles shit on purpose
CinemaSins is ok for the giggles but the negativity is just toxic
@@yugurtz as of late they aren't ok even for that
“Stopping a bullet with your hand. Bet we’ll never see that again”
Comedy comes in threes
aw jees rick
Damn straight
I was hoping it'd be 3x.
I thought the 2nd one stopped by his glasses hence the black eye he has for the rest of the movie
One of the best little nods in this movie was definitely showing the ease with which Spiderman caught Winter Soldiers arm. Spiderman is so much above Cap, Winter Soldier and the other "regular" humans in pure strength that it's not even slightly a competition. The thing keeping him down in this fight was lack of experience and you could see that in the choreography. Once Cap, Bucky etc. understood how much stronger Spidey is than them they noticeably changed to more trick and experience based fighting from brute strength and it payed off. Marvelous (sorry) little thing to show in the movie.
Then it clicked to Bucky that he's just a fucking kid
I dunno, while you'd be right in the comics, in the movies, Cap comes pretty close to Spidey strength.
I mean, Spider-man is definitely stronger but come on, Cap was able to hold down a moving helicopter.
cap is the best hand-to-hand combatant in marvel universe & he is physically stronger than Spidey.
Na actually cap is no near as strong as spidey, in te comics he canl lift over 20 tons, he could had stopped that helicopter so easily
Compared to Bucky & Cap, everybody's just a kid. lmao
As a German, I have to admit I found it wonderful that they tried hard to not americanize the locations or even the background details. I've seen that happen in a lot of movies, sadly.
Like, in 5:14, when you see Zemo reading the Hydra book, that news broadcast is actually German. Not even the language, but the channel and their news. Even the anchorwoman is the usual one!
Such a minor detail, I know, but I love it. I'm sorry :D
No Love well in iron man one they talked the exact urdu when subtitles mentioned (speaking urdu) marvel really cares about that stuff... i remember in batman first movie ra al gaur speaks urdu it was littrally just mumbling
Rafay Monam Ras al Ghul would speak arabic as his background is based somewhere in the Arabian Peninsula. His name is also made of Arabic words.
The Ten Rings soldiers in Ironman 1 speak Urdu because they’re from somewhere in Afghanistan
DH Shawon dude all i m saying is that the official subtitles say that he is speaking urdu while he never actually spoke urdu and tbh i also learned a little bit arabic and i can also tell that they way he talks is also not arabic
Rafay Monam Ahh I see what you mean
@No Love
Ikr
I like the part where spider man catches bucky’s arm Bucky actually seems surprised that he was that strong.
Yeah either that or "what the hell did tony seriously bring a kid" or maybe both lol
He's stunned because barely anyone can do that, let alone a 16 year old kid that Bucky realizes is in danger because he's in a serious fight, so it's just sort of weird
rachel b l 14*
Bagel Master Bucky looks surprised not because Spider-Man caught his hand but because he speaks like a kid he's surprised a child stopped his punch
I like how he heard his voice and was like "I'm fighting a KID?! And he cauGHT MY ARM-"
Honestly Wanda probably needed that "I know you too, you're great" that Scott said, after everything she blamed herself for.
"Oh, Vision, you indestructible being, you".....Until you're, um, not. Also, there's a video out there of Stan Lee doing an interview about meeting Tom Holland, and he told Tom "Oh my God, you're perfect, you're exactly how I pictured Peter Parker" I can't think of any higher praise for an actor looking to join the MCU.
Stan Lee said that to Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield also..
P Leviathan proof?
Lol, yeah. So indestructible he's died 3 times now. But, he DOES keep coming back, so that's something.
TOM IS LITERALLY THE CHOSEN ONE MY GOD-
This channel is such a breath of fresh air!
ikr? Its sweet candy in the sea of salt that is youtube.
Lol it's one of the only knockoffs I'm actually ok with.
+The Caped Inventor i agreed 100%
Video essays are my favorite genre on youtube.
Especially when you hope this channel's converse does the same films so you can play the "How many points of contention will there be?" game
Am I the only one who noticed the utter desperation in Tony's assistant's voice? When she says, "You can't beat him hand to hand!" I get chills, every time. It's like F.R.I.D.A.Y.'s tone of voice reflect's the character's emotions.... I don't know, it's just something I noticed.
Tyler Hepburn yep, true!!!
V-Rex it is his A.I which is also his assistant
F.R.I.D.A.Y. should have just done the "Analyze his attacks" bit from the start. He can totally counter Cap that way. And does. Why he didn't do it earlier is another story.
Tony wasn't entirely prepared to kill Cap at first. It was only when Cap REALLY started hurting him that Tony realised it was all or nothing to avenge his parents. In short, Tony made the decision too late to be of any help in the final seconds. To avoid being one-sided, I think both characters match each other. Sure, Iron Man has a fancy suit with lots of gadgets, but aside from being smarter and stronger than your average man, he relies on his suit very much in fights. Cap on the other hand is extremely powerful and doesn't rely on the suit or suchlike - its more or less his ideology that can bring him down (he nearly died to Bucky in the final fight in TWS because he refused to kill his friend; unlike Tony in this situation, he wasn't really prepared to kill, at least not until something terrible happened to Bucky).
Mr-Earwig yeah... Tony really didn't want to kill cap. I don't even know, whether he ever chose to go for the kill... Even pretty much at the end he tells cap to stand down, and that'S when the whole fight is almost over already.
Rest In Peace Chadwick. Watching these movies knowing how sick he really was is incredibly amazing and sad.
Zemo is interesting because he's just.. your normal guy.
He doesn't have some super robot suit.
Or superhuman strength.
He doesn't have unexplained perfect accuracy or insane combat skills.
Zemo is just clever, brutal, and patient.
And power of plot
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 How did he have the power of plot?
"Patience and experience, with that you can do whatever you want"
And he's one of the only villains who actually accomplished his objective. Due to his efforts,in the long run,the Avengers were no more.
@S. I. V. I was talking about the events in Infinity War,they weren't together there
Definitely one of my favourite MCU films. I don't know if it's just me, but I just loved how weary Tony looked throughout the film, possibly looking back to his PTSD seeing as he no longer has Pepper to stabilise him. Which would further his need to keep the Avengers together, just so he can sleep
"... But he's tending to Wanda. Whom he's falling for."
*war machine plummets to earth*
"All of that for some boobs"
Olivier Pineau LMAO
“In my culture, Death is not the end”
chris evans and RDJ had amazing performances in this movie. the part where tony watches the footage of his parents getting killed and his interaction/fight with cap after is amazing
I get that CinemaSins is more popular, (and slightly more comedic?) but I'm really glad this channel exists. The contrast of CinemaWins and Sins is important. It's always good to stop looking at all the problems and glimpse at the things done right every now and then. That said, every EWW (Everything Wrong With) I watch, I will also watch an EGA (Everything Great About) of the same video, provided that CinemaWins has it.
Bronson Strock Right! People always want to trash both channels when in reality they both are necessary when watching a movie. And I'm the same way, I watch every EWW and I'll watch the EGA if there's a Cinemasins video about it already
To be brutally honest, I don't know why they haven't made a joint channel. The reviews would be fair, praising and criticising films in unbiased ways. Also, both commentators are very humorous in their own ways, which would make for pleasant reviews. Imagine how good it would be to actually have something like that in the movie industry.
Cinema Sins are often quite deceptive in their videos and their material should not be a substitute for real film criticism. This channel has a far better eye for cinema and their comedy never misrepresents the film. I really don't think they'd work well collaboratively.
Sam Plater I guess so. But it'd be a fun experiment anyway
You're entitled to your opinion of course but Sins was never laugh-inducing for me... Not that Wins makes me roll on the floor laughing but to its credit it makes me feel good about the movie it deals with. Sins was meant to be comedy, something that makes people laugh and not only ah wasn't laughing at narration & lack of realism being labeled a sin but eventually it got annoying.
You missed a win, when Bucky took the motorcycle he had to hold the clutch so that it wouldn’t stall.
Well spotted! Do you know what the Tom & Jerry reference was?
@@JobiWan144 I wanna know that too
“Aah, finally! Somebody who speaks English.”
Fun fact about the tunnel chase sequence: That's almost all practical effects. They really are running in that tunnel, on strips of material being dragged behind some of the cars which allows them to literally run faster than the traffic. And the scene where Bucky catches the bike and mounts it was also practical. :D
@@AndaraBledin that's so amazing! Do you know if there are behind the scenes videos for them? I've looked but had no luck
2:21 _"This explosion is also something that has a lasting effect on Wanda."_
*_Lagos. For when you make a mess you didn't mean to._*
I’d also give a point for ironman’s “you don’t deserve that shield” line. That really hit me hard when I first saw the movie
The reason I like your channel far more than CinemaSins is because it
mostly nit-picks on stupid stuff and just ignores explanations for things given in the movies itself.
Plus I think you do a great job in actually analyzing these movies and to find what the makers were actually trying to show . This channel is highly underrated.
Neha The Jedi Agreed, this channel clearly has the actual film school education behind it. It's darker sibling just tends to rant, albeit recently seems more satirical in nature.
Yknow the nitpicks aren't serious right?
Even if it's satire, it's satire done poorly. Saying "It's a joke" doesn't make it a *good* joke
Pineapple Juice Who cares?
Right the whole point is that you shouldn't care
"Wouldn't be a Russo MCU film without someone losing an Arm Star Wars Style"
Re-watching in 2019 when you realise groot lost his arm in Infinity Wars which was also directed by the Russo Brothers. Interesting
In Infinity War, the Hulkbuster loses his entire left arm, and Cull Obsidian loses his arm when Wong cuts it off. hahaha
and then in the beginning of Endgame they cut off Thanos' hand lmao
Who lost an arm in Winter Soldier?
and Hulk essentially broke his arm after his snap
@@ZackKolin well, the winter soldier
Zemo isn't a weak villain, if anything he's the smartest. He went after the emotional crux of the primary members of the Avengers and turned them against each other, the only thing he didn't seem to count on was Black Panther being as level headed as he was. Also, Zemo is returning as a villain in the Falcon & the Winter Soldier so we get to see more of him
You forgot one. The fact that Crossbones's need for revenge that resulted in the catalyst of the movie happening. Revenge was the point of the first and final conflict
Brandon Layne yes.Black panther said that when he was talking to zemo at the end.
That point bothered me Cross Bones was proved in the last movie he was a Hydra agent and as a Hydra agent he would have wanted Steve to be dead anyway so even with out the ass kicking Cross bones received in the last movie he would have wanted Cap plus all the Avengers to die. and Hydra was created before Steve ever became a super soldier and if The founding Shield members would have killed Armin Zola Hydra would have been defeated in the first movie.
The reason Cap even becomes a Super Soldier is because Dr. Abraham makes the Super Soldier serum and gives to the guy who becomes Red Skull. and then Cap gets the Super Soldier serum because he just wants to help people and does not care about the glory which also the reason Peggy starts to get endeared by Steve.
And if Shield would have killed Zola instead of letting him go free Bucky would have never became the Winter Soldier thus saving Tony's parents and pretty much getting rid of the existence of Iron man and Tony becoming less of a dick because his mom is still alive so most of his enemies would not have a reason to try and get revenge on him.
Thor would still probably come to earth because that changes nothing that happens on Asgard.
Hulk probably still exists.
Cap still gets found in the Ice but because Zola was killed Hydra does not infiltrate shield. also Steve and Howard get to have a cool reunion.
So if Dr Abraham does not create super soldiers the MCU is just full of human conflict for the most part. and all 3 Iron mans are erased Cap 2 is erased because there is no Hydra infiltrating shield and no Bucky. the first Avengers happens just with no Iron Man. Age of Ultron is gone thus we get no Vision. Civil War does not Happen. Thanos can still be searching for the Infinity Stones and that would still lead him to earth most likley thus we get the Infinity Wars but with out iron Man and Scarlet Witch they would probably loose. So everything that happens throughout the MCU save us from Thanos wrecking everything.
*"if Shield would have killed Zola instead of letting him go free Bucky would have never became the Winter Soldier "*
Zola had already performed some experiments on Bucky by the time he fell out of the train (how else could he have survived the fall?), and that mission was the one where Zola was *captured.* If SHIELD had killed Zola at that point, Bucky would probably still have become the Winter Soldier anyway.
I love when Steve says, "She's a kid!" because it shows how much he really cares about Wanda. Steve sees her as a girl whose been fighting since she was 10, and she's still trying to handle battles, as seen in Age of Ultron and Steve wants her to be the little kid she didn't get the chance to be.
And how Toney calls her a weapon of mass destruction, possibly aluding that he views her as the woman who made his best friend kill people against his will and took him away from him
But Steve also gets Wanda involved in his mess ........I don't see a reason for suddenly Clint and Wanda and ant man coming in the fight ...coz they had literally no motivation to do it....and I really think Wanda would have been more save in avengers facility with vision
@@shivanim1158 One of my only problems with Civil War is that few of the characters have chosen sides because of what they believe. Other than Tony and Steve, and to a lesser Rhodey, Sam, and Vision. But even the latter three are kind of just following their personal allegiance. If Steve weren't involved Bucky would've been on Tony's side, T'challa is in it for revenge, Peter is following Tony, Clint is following Steve, Scott is following Captain America, and Natasha is inherently hard to pin down anyway.
@@harrybarden6053 actually I see it more as him saying what the government said to him concering her.
@Damia Savon, dont forget that cap was the one who actually took the time to talk to wanda like an adult, but still be comforting at the same time. tony and vision feared wanda's powers, whereas cap and clint respected them which would have been important when it came to wanda picking a side.
“Do you even remember them?”
“I remember all of them.”
My favorite line of the film.
And now it pays off in Falcon and winter soldier.
@@paullew4853 Am i wrong for wanting more Winter Soldier than Falcon? Don't get me wrong i liked seeing Sam's personal life issues but Bucky's seems of course way more tragic and interesting
@@zacharyjackson1829 You're not the only one, dude.
@@JR-pf9in I think they're focusing on him a lot more in the second season
@@zacharyjackson1829 the writers, I do believe, said when the title changes to captain America and the winter soldier, was deliberate. They said Bucky still has some development left to truly be the White Wolf
I absolutely love Peter’s huge grin in the end credits scene because it absolutely embodies Peter’s childlike enthusiasm. Also I love Rhody’s commentary to the “Tony Stank” nickname “Yes,This is Tony Stank,you’re in the right place. Never letting that go by the way. Table for one Mr.Stank please by the bathrooms.” Than Tony’s joyful laugh in response to his best friends enjoyment of his embarrassment over the nickname.
The only thing I didn't like was that this was considered a Captain America film. They easily could've made this an Avengers film and give Cap a movie about what happened to him after Civil War
its mostly centered on steve though and thor and hulk (Two big parts of the avengers team) arent here
Everyone in this thread is correct
It couldn’t be in avengers film because no hulk or Thor
Im glad someone finally has a good reason for this argument. But the problem is that the 3rd Captain America Film was supposed to be about him vs. some serpent organization that dresses like snakes. That sounds like it would be really boring. When the Russos heard of BvS, they switched it to Civil War instead. Im so glad they did, because we got an amazing breakup of the Avengers rather than just a standard solo movie against some serpents.
If it was an avengers film bucky would have definitely died. The plot armor Bucky had in this movie is huge, because the main character was on his side.
I didn't notice this until I saw it in this but when cap swings down on iron man, tony covers his face meaning he thinks that cap would kill him which shows how much he distrusts him now
14:22
Good eye!
wow i didn't consider that, nice one dude
Woah that's crazy
ya I thought he would kill him too. all 3 times I seen it
It's a shame you didn't win the "My father made that shield." Line where Cap acknowledges that and leaves the shield.
he picked it up for bucky, saving him has always been his mission, and once he achieved that, he didn't need the shield anymore.
a really goose bump giving moment in the movie.
purple fynn I'm not sure I understand what you mean by he picked it up for Bucky. He picked it up out of habit because he's Captain America. His being Cap has nothing to do with Bucky.
Hungry Hungry Hobo Steve deserves all the praise in the world for that scene honestly
ViaVia didn’t he sort of just beat a traumatized man into a pulp and was planning to leave him for the dead lol
No, he was protecting himself and his best friend from a guy in armored suit that tried to kill said friend. You know who was the villain in this scene? Tony. He attacked to kill, while Steve and Bucky wanted to disarm him. And by doing so proved what a hypocrite he was all along, being pro accords and crying that 'vigilanty is bad' and 'superheroes need to be held responsieble for their actions' just to ignore it and try to kill a guy that killed his parents. Has he a right to be angry - yes, but attacking a man that was brainwashed into being a human waepon and should not even be considered a murderer ('cos he had no choice or agency one can argue that Bucky should be considered innocent).
I love how pleased Wanda looks when Ant-man tells her she is a great!! Such a sweet moment and smile!
CinemaSins: "This scene doesn't contain a lapdance"
CinemaWins: "This actress is so pretty" * shamelessly swoons at male characters *
My point being: wholesome. relatable. objectively better.
CinemaSins has always been garbage. I'm glad channels like CinemaWins and TheBirdman are out there to expose them for what they are. Clickbaiting, low quality content pushing assholes
KillerGames Jay Exci, too
@@the_competent_gamer9454 nah
You do realise CinemaSins is satire right?
@@SwiftyNinjasGaming It *was* satire. What it's turned into can't seem to make up it's mind about what it is. James Gunn even said, "You should still be accurate about what your satirizing, otherwise it's just shitty satire".
TheBirdman (Even with all his whinging about SJW this and snowflake that) pretty handedly rips cinemasins to shreds over inconsistencies and things they get just plain wrong. Cinemsins is just about shitting all over everything and pretending to be precise and consistent, but when they screw something up, they hide behind being satire in order to defend themselves from criticism.
Hey dude, i just found you channel and i gotta say, it's really good. You put a lot of things into fair perspective without fabricating your evidence, and it adds up to a more wholesome experience. Your videos don't degrade movies at all; in fact, i think that people like you are the reason that filmmakers do what they do. You are quite aware of the effort put into movies and you give a lot of credit where it is due. Critics really need to take notes from your channel. Keep up the good work.
I really agree. It doesn't make up silly things that aren't in the movie. Just fairly looks at the positive side and what a movie does right.
Feel people have gotten too negative, myself included. Movies have flaws, but...why not celebrate the great things they do?
Dat Darwin Dude THIS. EVERYTHING you said.
Dat Darwin Dude Don't break your arms jerkin each other off fellas
Dat Darwin Dude That being said I totally agree lmao
Dat Darwin Dude I found it today and have already watch most of the vids
I don't think enough people appreciate the fact that Mr Barnes is captured in the city of Bucharest.
Bucharest.
Buck arrest.
You're welcome :)
Jasper Marcus Well, they put him in Bucharest because the actor that plays Bucky is actually from Romania, and Bucharest is the capital. It was a little nod towards Sebastian Stan, the actor. But I guess you could say Buck arrest too 😂
Or
Bucky rest
oH MY GOSh
Why should i appreciate that
Definitely NOT Undying awesomeness Apparently not.
I like Visions "equation" because it's practically the same thing ultrun had been proposing: maybe the world would be better off without them? It's cool in particular because vision and Ultron are so different, but are able to come to some understandings, like the scene with Vis and the last ultron in the woods. Vision doesn't always agree, but he and ultron can somewhat understand each other, and now he is really, really really really subtly continuing Ultron's effect on them all: whether it be tony's conscious, or the battle in sokovia, or the whole point of Ultron being bad, It shows how he has just as much affect on the MCU as Loki, or thanos, or any other villain, even though I hear him get thrown under the bus in favor of other characters. Super cool
I feel like there’s a missed win for the scene that gets two wins at 10:09. We’ve seen Bucky punch with his non-metal arm before, and there is zero reason to believe it would be ineffective, but he just kinda stares at Peter. He knows Peter is a kid, especially after he talks, and you can see it in his eyes. I love the detail with that, and how good Sebastian Stan is in that moment.
Of course, it’s kinda basic sense to not punch kids, but Tony brought him here anyway, so I still think Bucky deserves a win for caring about the fate of someone clearly on the other side
Lily O I think he was just shocked at how strong he was. He would’ve tried incapacitating him, but since he figured he had an enhanced physiology like he did, that he’d be fine. He was also likely pulling and throwing the punch slower so that it wouldn’t seriously harm him.
V33 SSB Dude, Spider-Man was shown almost instantly stopping a car with zero effort earlier in the movie. He just treated his metal arm as if it were a plaything. Bucky would have broken his own wrist while doing zero damage if he managed to punch Spider-Man. Don't know why you think he's weaker arm wouldn't be ineffective when his metal arm was useless.
Probably a mixture of “wow he stopped my metal arm! He’s strong!” and “Oh hey he’s a teen!”
I believe that Stan Lee's cameo at every MCU film is related.
- Stan Lee was a WWII veteran who's father was a general (Captain America)
- In "The Incredible Hulk" he drank Banner's blood
- In "Thor" he was revovered probably when he pulled of the bed of his truck
- In "Avengers" he was probably tired living in New Mexico, so he moved to New York and even appeared in deleted scenes
- In "Iron Man 3", I guess Tennessee was his home state or he visited his relatives in christmas and took a opportunity to be a judge in a local beauty pageant contest
- In "Thor: The Dark World" it is unclear how he got into mental ward hospital and what reason
- In "Captain America: Winter Soldier" he probably got tired of being retired and become a guard in Smithsonian but loses his job after Steve stole his suit.
- In "Avengers: Age of Ultron" he, as a veteran, appeared at the party in Avengers Tower, and drinking. Probably because he lost his job because Steve Rogers.
- In "Ant Man" he moved to San Francisco and got a job as a bartender
- He probably lost his job as bartender too because as stated in "Captain America: Civil War" he is now a delivery guy.
He is the Watcher!
What about Guardians of the Galaxy?
That's his clone, or either he has secretly been going on space joyrides to distract him from his boring delivery job
And Big Hero 6?
King Dedede I talked about Stan Lee cameos in Marvel Cinematic Universe. Big Hero 6 does not belong to MCU.
'So now the Russo Brothers have proven they can handle a huge ensemble cast'
This was their warm-up. Endgame was their masterpeice
Couldn’t agree more
You ghys haven't seen the Loki fans 🤣 they hate the Russo brothers. While I like Loki as a character myself I don't hate Avengers 3 and 4
I must say, endgame was their best feat, infinity war is the better movie (it was inevitable(pun intended))
Infinity War is miles better
Infinity war was a masterpiece
Here to start the petition for “Chadwick Boseman will forever be a win” #WakandaForever
#WakandaForever
#WakandaForever
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This movie is having a lasting impact on the MCU it wasn't stake-less
Captain Jakemerica he was taking about Antman and spiderman being the comedy in this film because it was stake less for them.
It was entirely stakeless. Nothing changed.
Chris Allen Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Nathaniel Ranney good argument
Chris Allen I was gonna type a list out of what changed, but my tablet is messing up, so here's the long version: screenrant.com/captain-america-civil-war-mcu-changes/
But I doubt you'll be convinced because haters gonna hate.
Does anyone noticed that captain America had his Avengers Badge stick on his shoulder when he fought crossbone but, after that he doesn't? He ripped it of when they started to separated, so much details...
Now cap is gonna take the star out of his suit. And his suit is gonna be more darker.
JustYellow On that subject, I love how the symbols on Cap's shoulders change throughout the MCU in correspondence with where he is in his story. In First Avenger, it's a star, signifying his trust is in his country. Then in Winter Soldier, it's S.H.I.E.L.D.'s crest, showing that his trust has shifted from the country as a whole to S.H.I.E.L.D. specifically, in a way showing how he's being lead down the wrong path. Once he learns the truth about S.H.I.E.L.D. (& the government as a whole), he goes back to the star, showing that he now trusts an idealized version of America. However this trust doesn't last (it can't with him), so he replaces the star with the Avenger's logo, signifying that he trusts his team, until in Civil War when even that starts to falter. Finally, he goes patchless, showing that sadly, Cap only trusts himself, & even then not completely. Fuck I love these movies.
@@Murdock_the_Pooch you put it in words
@@Murdock_the_Pooch Eventually it's just gonna be a falcon on one shoulder and a buck on the other.
@@wanderlustwarrior and a widow on the belt...
This movie was amazing. I remember when I saw this movie in the theater, seeing Cap and Stark exchanging punches with the impending booming music playing in the background. *SO GOOD*
King_Of_Flash 14 agreed
This is the one movie that I want to watch for the first time again. I remember having tears in my eyes when I saw the two teams running at each other with the badass music playing because of how fucking awesome it was. I still feel something whenever I watch that scene, but it's not the same as the first time.
Kush Patel Yeah.
TOO GOOD
When Tony “eyeballs it,” he’s in the same position Obadiah Stane was when Obadiah was trying to kill Tony back in Iron Man 1, reflecting Tony’s abandoning his morals and sinking down to villain-like status in the fight.
That became one of my favorite details in this movie when I noticed it.
Though, unlike Obadiah, he hits the shot. So Tony isn’t ALL bad.
This vid is the exact opposite of the Sin one - I'm surprised you guys don't do pair ups and argue with eachother for fun :p
dbzmaster1213 them being opposite I kinda the point
yes - I was just mentioning that as a lead-in to the rest of my comment
I guess there's going to bound to be some personal opinions leaking in on which one you liked more. If you had issues with Civil War then you'll likely be more fond of Cinema Sins but those who really dug it will more enjoy Cinema Wins. So I guess that means I'm obviously more on the later but yeah I really loved Captain America 3 and much prefer this video as honestly felt like Cinema Sins and heck even honest trailers were desparately looking at things to nitpick to go "okay I know DC fans think we're Marvel Fan boys for hating on BvS and other things but hey look we can do the same to Marvel movies" except their points just feeling forced. Hell Cinema Wins pretty much broke down why Zemo's plan not only ins't overly convoluted but really works for the movie and isn't just concidence after concidience like others tried to say it is.
Yeah just imagine cinemasins roasting him while he is just saying how cinemasin's voice is amazing.
You know how CinemaSins did a CinemaSins on CinemaSins, CinemaSins should do a CinemaSins on CinemaWins while CinemaWins does a CinemaWins on CinemaSins.
Try saying this 10X fast.
Spider-Man was a pure win for me.
171QA *100 wins
171QA 15 wins
So, this is kind of late, but I don't care. The music during the airport fight scene plays it as a tragedy, the Avengers are literally tearing themselves apart in front of us and the music tells us as much.
In what way?
3:45 I believe that the accords/oversight would actually increase the escalation of villainy. Villains would take advantage of how the avengers would be severely restricted in when and where they could respond. I'm team cap on this one
And every organization has an agenda
take the looks on the events they use for the accords. if they had their way New york would be a radioactive wasteland. millions killed, and major trade up destroyed affecting all the world's economy. so the Avengers damage is far less and thus the lesser evil.
the Hekicarriers. we know they released all the sheild files. and what they said those ships launch and 20 million people are dead. msot who actually die are hydra agents and the damaged limited to the sheilds location. so again lesser evil.
Sokovia is their only defense and even there it's not the Avengers fault but TONY'S maybe the worlds sicne they failed to capture all hydra agents.
the Wanda incedent. they are goign aftger another hydra agent and they think bank robbery but turns out it's him going after a bio weapon. and her move only 14 die were if on the ground at least 100 are dead, maybe more if she wasn't there.
also the accords can not stand legal muster. what we know of them vioaltes at least one US constutional right and vioaltes a couple UN human rights so it has no standing.
I totally disagree. If the Avengers aren't as omnipresent anymore, the incentive to measure up to them and try to beat them would go immensely. So while the world might not have fewer villains in total, it would definitely have fewer "supervillains" who try to match the Avengers in power level.
@@megmur1766 So have individuals who don't tolerate a governing body above themselves
@@doomse150 I don't think that's the issue. They didn't even try to negotiate with the avengers. They just all got together, put together 300 pages and demanded they comply. That's not how you facilitate trust or begin a partnership with some of the most powerful ppl on the planet. And Thor is literally a god. How did they plan on making him comply exactly? It was just stupid strong handed tactics and it didn't have to be.
"Obviously I expect them to reconcile before the huge conflict of Infinity War, or more likely, Thanos's arrival will have the UN begging for Cap to lead the Avengers again." When you do Everything Great About Infinity War be sure to give them a win for subverting expectation since neither of these things happens. Love your stuff!
To be honest, it would be really great if we would have a puppet master, master planner and bond like villain like zemo again in the MCU, we have enough comic booky "super"villains that we need more of the grounded powerless ones.
Your wish has been granted, Vulture was fucking awesome.
Godzilla02 Responding late but I agree, now Vulture and Zemo are one of my all faved MCU baddies.
AboAbdulable Apparently Hela is just as good as well. The MCU villains seem to be back on track in phase 3. Let’s hope Thanos is the best.
Godzilla02 Yup, hoping too.
AboAbdulable all the iron man villains?
Crediting the stunt doubles is a big win in my book. good job :)
Both RDJ and Chris Evans deserve oscars. I honestly can’t believe they don’t have at least ten each by now.
"Because that's Robert Downey Jr and Tony Stark, and Iron Man". And Sherlock Holmes.
And now, dr doolittle
And Charlie Chaplin
Yh and the guy who faced a dragon also solves murders with a the dragon, who is also a wizard, who is also a detective, who is also a docter.
And the best snaper
And Tony Stank
What no win for the moment of banter between T'Challah, his bodyguard, and Natasha?
"As entertaining as that would be..."
"Yup"
the audacity
Move or you will be moved haha
One of the heavy’s mini-guns?
Can we also take a moment to appreciate the song choice for spidermans intro? A british band that got popular in the states just before we see a british actor portray an american character, and dare i say, a british actor who is or will be popular in the states?
The moment where Steve & Sharon snog is just great for the reactions of Bucky & Sam in that they represent his past and present. Also the fact that in real life all 3 are a tight unit.
The one thing Old friends and new friends can agree on is their mutual friend is the man when he can get a five second open mouth kiss pre combatZ
My only problem with the "I'm going to sit here, so you're going to move that leg." scene is you can see RDJ look towards the camera basically saying "Don't cut, I got this."
That's what makes it so fun :) My favorite part about Tony Stark is that he's indistinguishable from RDJ. Which is which? You can't tell! I like that.
Breaking the 4th wall .
Aida Baida even though this version of Tony Stark is based on Superior Iron-Man (where he was an actual bad guy intent on controlling the world)?
I understand why people like the actor and the comedy of his dialogue... but people actually like the character of Tony Stark? He's a grade A douchebag that wouldn't give you the time of day if you ever met him in real life... how can people like someone like that?
he's sarcastic
gotta love sarcasm
14:18 at this point in the movie, my dad my brother (who were on either side of me) leaned in and said “I could do this all day” and since I haven’t seen Captain America in years, it took me a second to understand that reference. Ah, they are such big Marvel nerds
Something I think is interesting about the scene where spiderman catches bucky's arm. There's the look of shock on Bucky's face but I don't think it's cause the arm was stopped, that happens quite a bit. I think rather it's that he just hears spidermans voice and goes, wait a minute this is a kid? and doesn't really wanna just start swinging at a kid.
Its totaly an oh shit my arm got stopped followed by an oh shit im fighting a kid to an oh shit this 15 yearold just fu*king caught my arm
Is this copied?
@@Jam-cw7tq kinda
“The government creation no longer trusts the organization that made him, and the self made genius rebel is now looking for that organization to hold him accountable.”
golden description 👏
Tony should have known his parents were killed from the massive data dump in Winter Soldier. That's how cap found out.
General Ross shouldn't be lecturing anyone on civilian casualties since he shot up a university and took out half of Harlem with the Abomination. Plus all the other damage he created trying to capture Banner.
Cap found out from Zola. And Zola really only hinted at it. "History can be changed." Something like that.
But that's General Ross for ya. A power hungry man who is a hypocrite.
Ross didn't have anything to do with Abomination. It was Blonsky's own choice to go rogue and become Abomination, because he was power hungry.
Black Widow also gave Cap the secret files of the Winter Soldier. Hence, not part of the data dump.
DON'T LECTURE ME ABOUT THE WAR, YOU DIDN'T FIGHT IN IT.
I loved this movie so much. Who's with me?
Me
ME:):):)
me
Made DC look so bad
me
Civil War is definitely my favorite superhero film for 2016. The loyalties and friendships that are broken leaves a huge emotional mark and also a new judgement on their convictions. Infinity War will continue this thread until Thanos arrives on Earth to take the stones from Vision and Doctor Strange.
What about my movie?:(
ᏔᎪᎠᎬ FᏌᏟᏦᎥᏁᏩ Ꮃ ᎥᏞᎦ Ꮎ Ꮑ don't worry some of is love it
The reasoning for the two arguments makes sense when you consider the wars Tony and Cap remember. Tony might just about remember Vietnam and was present in Afganistan. So he thinks a civilian casualty is avoidable.
Cap saw and lived through WW2 and the devistation that wrought on Europe. He knows you can't save everyone.
Just some thoughts there!
Still the best movie I've seen this year.
Which isn't saying much
What do you want him to say, "I love BvS" or "SS was great".
It's his opinion.
Definitely
There were some pretty good movies this year, Nero, that weren't comic book movies. That was Iconium's point.
100% agreed.
Black Widow's stunt double is called *Heidi Moneymaker?!* Hello, epic name win!
She's also in the film far more than Scarlett
Imagine being named Moneymaker and not having money? You're not supposed to shame poor people but that's like being called slamma jamma and not being able to dunk the ball.
Bond girl name? How about ghetto rapper name?
Vision: Our very strength invites challenge, challenge incites conflict...conflict breeds catastrophe.
Yoda: Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate...leads to suffering.
10:29 I NEVER NOTICED THAT! Now it feels even more powerful when he learns how to use his Peter tingle in far from home because we're usually not aware of our senses. Having the Spideysense would take quite the while to actually control but they're showing that he obviously already has it.
The dynamic between Falcon and Bucky was one of my favorite things about this film. I'm actually kinda surprised you didn't talk about more.
This is a little harder to watch after Infinity War...
so true
try it again after Endgame. I did.
@@CaptAmerica300 how it feel?
@@alexanderchristopher6237 sad
Benjamin Catus even worse after endgame
9:19 *_*After Endgame*_* Creepy x1000
April Could’ve been worse. She could’ve been Peggy’s daughter.
Why is it creepy
Benjamim That’s Captain’s niece now.
Jaxus R grand niece, but yea still creepy
@@jaxusr235 I don't think that's how it works
He was right Chadwick Boseman is the best person to play the Black Panther and i dont think anyone else can play Black Panther as good as Chadwick Boseman. R.I.P Chadwick.
I think you mean Chadwick Boseman WAS the best person to play the Black Panther.
G C why the fuck
One of the movies I could watch over and over again. It's not a 10/10 movie, but it sure as hell is enjoyable 10/10 times.
Its damn near 10/10 lol
considering how complicated the plot is, with this many actors, I'd forgive its mistakes and indeed place it goddamn close to a perfect 5/7 (It's a joke, it means 10/10)
Is it the only movie you've seen or are just very young?
it's your opinion. some of these guys are assholes who think they're proffesssional movie critics.
It's just an opinion, dude. Seriously, get over it.
2:24 It's also an action on wanda's part that from a utilitarian perspective, or any reason based moral perspective, is completely justified. The blast would have been no smaller on the ground, and in the middle of a busy market clause would have killed as many or more innocents. Plus it would plausibly damage structural supports on surrounding buildings, potentially taking the entire buildings with the . She didn't know she'd lose control, she couldn't know. The point is simple, she did the right thing, and the Avenger's decreased civilian casualties to the greatest extent possible.
Devin Gendron Maybe so, but it was still her mistake that she accidently led him into the side of a building rather than in the open air directly above the marketplace, and any person whose mistakes carry a body count needs something to be done about it. The government can't (or shouldn't) just go "oopsie-daisies" and then just pretend it didn't happen.
honestly, I don't have anything against Wanda in that particular scene... yeah she lost control, but she was trying to save people - she actually did... accidentally while doing so she killed others. I don't know if it had been more or less casualties without her, but she wasn't left with much of a choice besides trying to save them.
However I'm going to argue, that they shouldn't have fought there to begin with... I mean... couldn't they have properly evactuated around the crime scene. or not let the villain run into the most crowded area ever... seems like a big blunder on the teams part.
This movie did what I thought was impossible. It completely surpassed Winter Soldier. I can't think of any higher recommendation than that.
All Cap movies have been pretty good. Can't say the same for the other individual movies.
idk ....the winter solider is perfect for me .....so civil war is a 2nd
Cap's the only character so far with a consistently good trilogy. The Iron Man sequels weren't that good, neither of the Thor movies were that impressive.
+Goulactic X I agree. Winter Soldier's spy espionage change of pace from the rest of the MCU for me makes it marvels best movie.
daley610 almost on the same level of The dark knight and im not joking
9:54. I like how in this scene, before Scott turns around it doesn't look like Wanda is smiling, she's just standing there stoically. But after Scott compliments her we see her smiling. She clearly needed that confidence boost.