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I use Joplin. I was thinking that if there is a way to share a folder (ala Syncthing) between my desktop or mobile and the Supernote, it would be trivial to manage documents and notes between the devices and applications. Any thoughts on this? Dropbox, I suppose? Though Dropbox is not quite as seamless as something like Syncthing. Probably good enough. My Supernote is coming in a few weeks and as a writer, that process of syncing transcribed text (ideally a txt file) beyond the Supernote and then reimporting that text after manipulation (PDF?) so that I can annotate it … That process will be a deciding factor in whether I keep it. As a writer there will be that back and forth flow of: write longhand > export txt > refine & revise on desktop (Joplin, but doesn't really matter) > re-import, then add editing annotations > revise on desktop > re-import, then add editing annotations > revise on desktop > … After the initial export, I do all changes on the desktop with Joplin then push a PDF to Supernote and hand edit. Then I read this edited while mirroring the changes in Joplin in the desktop. Then PDF again, annotate, revisions, etc. Hope that all made sense. At least, that's how I think it is going to go. We'll see. May be busier than needs to be.
Thank you for this detailed description of what sounds like a complex workflow. I use it now to write my blog but am not familiar with Joplin. You can export notes as Word or text files. I use the Supernote Cloud but Dropbox, Onedrive, and Google Drive all work. You can annotate and directly comment into PDF files. You can also edit Word files directly using strike through, writing shortcuts, and even with a keybord (some current bugs here but fixes in beta). Finally, there is also a plugin to create markdown files directly in Obsidian, so a lot of choices. I show some of this in other videos. I hope it helps. Thanks again for the comment.
I'm not saying it won't ever get there, but for me the frustration would be just too much. I think the way that Supernote handles handwriting recognition and all of the other tools just makes it such a premium experience. OneNote is great, just not worth the tradeoffs for me.
I rely on OneNote for my documentation and research in personal and vocational life. I do not care about working directly in the OneNote app through any device I just need my information compiled in one filing cabinet so-to-speak. I just want to know if pdf, image or linked connections can connect work I do on a supernote in the same OneNote folder as my web links typed notes and research lives. Forget the app, it’s essentially a beta version anyway with updates to come. Can supernote output be put into OneNote and if so is it only drag and dropping time stamped pdf’s or can their be a link so most up to date information is loaded?
Thanks for the comment and question. I'm not sure I have a full understanding of your workflow or what you would want it to do. The Supernote is meant to primarily be a paper notebook replacement. The files do not natively sync or update except to the partner app, Onedrive, Google Drive, or Dropbox. You can export to a PDF and you don't have to log into their app (but do have to install it) to read their proprietary note file. I hope this helps but if I'm missing something, let me know. Thanks again.
@ well OneNote notebooks are also saved on OneDrive. So if súper note can also save to OneDrive, can it be where notebooks are, so you can just natively pull them up on OneNote through your computer? Obviously sounds like you can export pdf and drop them into a OneNote notebook which would work as a file that never updates. Would prefer like Google docs where you can send a link that will open the current iteration of the document whenever you click the link. If I can just put a link into OneNote that opens a particular files current iteration in the supernote partner app that would work just fine. Then all my handwritten notes are on the e ink device but I have a way from any computer or phone, getting to a particular notes current iteration.
@Seth_Michael_Hernandez thanks for the clarification, it been a while since I used OneNote on the daily. You can sync to Onedrive in a folder, but it creates a Supernote folder to sync. My assumption would be that you could then link the note in OneNote and as long as you had the parter app installed, it would open the extension like Word or Adobe. This should also work on your phone if the partner app is installed. I will see if I can confirm.
I would disagree. Yes, I am sure that it may be better on some e-ink devices, and I mention Boox specifically. Even on the Supernote, the app itself is responsive when navigating, just not writing. My point is that it just isn't optimized for e-ink.
I would agree except that I have seen it that way demonstrated by others on multiple e-ink devices. Both Boox and BigMe work around it by basically showing you a preview of the strokes and then they render after the fact in OneNote. It's similar to how the reMarkable Paper Pro does color strokes. [edited for spelling error]
@@Change-1820 In a way I'm pleased the Supernote is pretty much locked-down... I used to scorn the _'being focussed thing',_ but now I'm kinda getting it.
@@karlmunford7000 I would have to agree with them being limited but the sideloading thing was appreciated. I do think eventuality adding e-ink optimized reader apps in their own app store makes sense. I like that I have to be intentional about what I choose to install.
yeah, without e-ink optimization it (and lots of other apps like it) are unusable not only on Supernote but on every other platform imo. I hope Ratta explores how they might be able to do the same kind of optimization Boox does. I have a suspicion it might be easier for them, if it is that could open a *lot* of doors. even though I personally don't like OneNote, some people's employers would let OneNote connect to corporate resources while nothing else can so there's still a value add.
Thanks for the perspective and the comment. I was a big fan when I was embedded in the Microsoft ecosystem and before my first e-ink tablet. Now, I find that I am much more independent of a lot of those types of tools.
@@JMaxwell1000 really? I love it. Everything from my engineering workflow, car maintenance diy, to Rolodex is in OneNote. I do wish there were some differences and improvements but I’ve been very happy. I have tried Evernote, what would you recommend?
Thank you for watching the video. Please share your comments and perspective. If you are interested in supporting the channel and the content I make, you can support me in the following ways :
Check out my new Patreon page. You can join for free to get more insights and chat with me about various topics. While there may be paid tiers added later, I plan to provide as much free content and information as possible. Join the conversation here:
www.patreon.com/OrganizingforChange
You can now do a Super Thanks if you found something really useful.
If you are considering a Supernote, please use the affiliate link below. This does not raise the price of the device, but does provide me a small commission:
tinyurl.com/2p9ttt48
If you are interested in my process for organizing, the tools and software I use, and are budget conscious, please visit the page below for links and other information:
changeagent1820.blogspot.com/p/the-things-i-use.html
I use Joplin. I was thinking that if there is a way to share a folder (ala Syncthing) between my desktop or mobile and the Supernote, it would be trivial to manage documents and notes between the devices and applications. Any thoughts on this? Dropbox, I suppose? Though Dropbox is not quite as seamless as something like Syncthing. Probably good enough.
My Supernote is coming in a few weeks and as a writer, that process of syncing transcribed text (ideally a txt file) beyond the Supernote and then reimporting that text after manipulation (PDF?) so that I can annotate it … That process will be a deciding factor in whether I keep it.
As a writer there will be that back and forth flow of: write longhand > export txt > refine & revise on desktop (Joplin, but doesn't really matter) > re-import, then add editing annotations > revise on desktop > re-import, then add editing annotations > revise on desktop > …
After the initial export, I do all changes on the desktop with Joplin then push a PDF to Supernote and hand edit. Then I read this edited while mirroring the changes in Joplin in the desktop. Then PDF again, annotate, revisions, etc. Hope that all made sense.
At least, that's how I think it is going to go. We'll see. May be busier than needs to be.
Thank you for this detailed description of what sounds like a complex workflow. I use it now to write my blog but am not familiar with Joplin. You can export notes as Word or text files. I use the Supernote Cloud but Dropbox, Onedrive, and Google Drive all work. You can annotate and directly comment into PDF files. You can also edit Word files directly using strike through, writing shortcuts, and even with a keybord (some current bugs here but fixes in beta). Finally, there is also a plugin to create markdown files directly in Obsidian, so a lot of choices. I show some of this in other videos. I hope it helps. Thanks again for the comment.
@Change-1820 Joplin is much like Obsidian. I don't think there is a Supernote plugin for it though.
THANK YOU!! ... You saved me a lot of time & frustration. I was planning on OneNote being my teams answer on notes and sharing.
Glad I could help. Don't get me wrong, I like OneNote, it just isn't optimized for e-ink.
Thank you for this. It is good to know.
I'm not saying it won't ever get there, but for me the frustration would be just too much. I think the way that Supernote handles handwriting recognition and all of the other tools just makes it such a premium experience. OneNote is great, just not worth the tradeoffs for me.
I rely on OneNote for my documentation and research in personal and vocational life. I do not care about working directly in the OneNote app through any device I just need my information compiled in one filing cabinet so-to-speak. I just want to know if pdf, image or linked connections can connect work I do on a supernote in the same OneNote folder as my web links typed notes and research lives. Forget the app, it’s essentially a beta version anyway with updates to come. Can supernote output be put into OneNote and if so is it only drag and dropping time stamped pdf’s or can their be a link so most up to date information is loaded?
Thanks for the comment and question. I'm not sure I have a full understanding of your workflow or what you would want it to do. The Supernote is meant to primarily be a paper notebook replacement. The files do not natively sync or update except to the partner app, Onedrive, Google Drive, or Dropbox. You can export to a PDF and you don't have to log into their app (but do have to install it) to read their proprietary note file. I hope this helps but if I'm missing something, let me know. Thanks again.
@ well OneNote notebooks are also saved on OneDrive. So if súper note can also save to OneDrive, can it be where notebooks are, so you can just natively pull them up on OneNote through your computer? Obviously sounds like you can export pdf and drop them into a OneNote notebook which would work as a file that never updates. Would prefer like Google docs where you can send a link that will open the current iteration of the document whenever you click the link. If I can just put a link into OneNote that opens a particular files current iteration in the supernote partner app that would work just fine. Then all my handwritten notes are on the e ink device but I have a way from any computer or phone, getting to a particular notes current iteration.
@Seth_Michael_Hernandez thanks for the clarification, it been a while since I used OneNote on the daily. You can sync to Onedrive in a folder, but it creates a Supernote folder to sync. My assumption would be that you could then link the note in OneNote and as long as you had the parter app installed, it would open the extension like Word or Adobe. This should also work on your phone if the partner app is installed. I will see if I can confirm.
I think you mean the Latency is very high, not "non-existent"
Yes, thanks for the correction. It was so bad, I think I was trying to mix unusable and high all together into one word. Apologies for the confusion.
Well, "it's common to EInk devices" is not true...OneNote is fast on Go 10.3, and it's not blinking as much as you've shown on A5X2...
I would disagree. Yes, I am sure that it may be better on some e-ink devices, and I mention Boox specifically. Even on the Supernote, the app itself is responsive when navigating, just not writing. My point is that it just isn't optimized for e-ink.
Looks like software issue on that specific device.
I would agree except that I have seen it that way demonstrated by others on multiple e-ink devices. Both Boox and BigMe work around it by basically showing you a preview of the strokes and then they render after the fact in OneNote. It's similar to how the reMarkable Paper Pro does color strokes. [edited for spelling error]
Looks like some kind of time warp... _'I see dinosaurs floating next to men in space suits!'_
Yeah, not a great experience. The best I've seen it was on Boox. Kit showed it there and even then it wasn't great, except for viewing.
@@Change-1820 In a way I'm pleased the Supernote is pretty much locked-down... I used to scorn the _'being focussed thing',_ but now I'm kinda getting it.
@@karlmunford7000 I would have to agree with them being limited but the sideloading thing was appreciated. I do think eventuality adding e-ink optimized reader apps in their own app store makes sense. I like that I have to be intentional about what I choose to install.
You buy a Supernote for a superior writing experience. If you need anything else, you should buy everything else.
@@mrspeeddemon727Thabks for the comment. I would push back on that a little bit. It works very well for me in my professional environment.
I always found onenote to be wayyy too unfocused and bloated. It does have amazing search functionality, tho
I like the unfocused part, kind of why I like the links I Supernote and using Obsidian. No argument on bloating and search functionality in OneNote.
yeah, without e-ink optimization it (and lots of other apps like it) are unusable not only on Supernote but on every other platform imo. I hope Ratta explores how they might be able to do the same kind of optimization Boox does. I have a suspicion it might be easier for them, if it is that could open a *lot* of doors. even though I personally don't like OneNote, some people's employers would let OneNote connect to corporate resources while nothing else can so there's still a value add.
@@0xKruzr agreed!
One Note is horrible anyhow. I'd never use it.
Thanks for the perspective and the comment. I was a big fan when I was embedded in the Microsoft ecosystem and before my first e-ink tablet. Now, I find that I am much more independent of a lot of those types of tools.
@@JMaxwell1000 really? I love it. Everything from my engineering workflow, car maintenance diy, to Rolodex is in OneNote. I do wish there were some differences and improvements but I’ve been very happy. I have tried Evernote, what would you recommend?