You forgot one trait that dragons like Smaug have; Dragon speech, and The Dragons song. Both of these abilities have the power to control other beings, which is why they sent Bilbo in instead of themselves, because it has little effect on hobbits, but if you watch carefully, it still almost took control of Bilbo, forcing him to take the ring off to become visible, allowing Smaug to see him. It was NOT the Ring controling him, despite how it seems.
@@Theriople key word "resist" he is not completely free of it. Also Smaug's abilities are much stronger then what the alpha dragons in how to train your dragon are capable of. Plus the abilities from the type of dragon Smaug is can effect not just animals, but humanoids as well, so in a way, Smaug can just turn the humans against them.
@@xanthiusdrake2775 toothless is faster than the speed of sound, if he starts goin full speed before he talks he should be able to not hear it partially, or something like that i guess
The other person in this reply section is right compared to the alpha call that needed literaly no time to come into effect the dragon speech you talk of needs to be first heard by one whos willing to listen meaning it's a psychological exploit smaug has but there is an exploit against that exploit as well loud sounds or just getting far enough so that the speech is blurry and we have no in real evidence that smaug roars count as the dragon speech maybe humans will fall to him because smaug can talk human but his roars will in no way defeat the dragons
@@georgiancountryball202 Not 100% true, a creature or person does not need to be "willing to listen" for either dragon speech or the dragons song to take effect, it can happen as soon as they hear it, especially the dragons song, as it can effect pretty much anything that has ears. Also Toothless' speed does not change anything, in most cases with fantasy, a dragons song can't be outrun due to its magical properties, it can only be escaped with distance.
I’m more interested in the dynamic between Smaug and Hiccup than the dynamic between Smaug and Toothless. I think a lot of people are forgetting that Smaug is sentient and VERY cunning. I could see him taking advantage of Hiccup’s “all dragons are misunderstood” philosophy and manipulating Hiccup for his own gain using that.
showing true culture. Still i belive Smaug is way more powerful than Tootles, Ancalagon is actually on Godzilla's league. so a battle between Ancalagon and toothless would be like the strongest man on earth fighting an ant.
Actually Ancalagon V Ghidorah would be worth watching. And frankly Smaug is more powerful than Toothless, but I would compare Smaug fighting toothless to a person trying to swat a fly carrying a miniature AK-47 with a newspaper. Not physically impossible, but my God vastly infuriating.
@@creaturetransylvania8943 case in point. By the way, by "titan" you presumably mean alpha dragons (dragons that assume some position over others that aren't their own kind). Those being red death, screaming death, bewilderbeast, in your case. One could also count the other two alpha dragons if you include the comics.
Toothlesses temporarily being invisible probably wouldn’t be a problem for Smaug since he managed to find Bilbo even when he had the ring on. (Making him invisible)
She forgot one thing, his scales. Smaug has a advantage over Toothless because the dragons in HTTYD hide or scales can be penetrated while Smaug can't be penetrated by human weapons.
@@joshuawebb4966 you try to hit a palm sized spot on a plane zipping around with your spit while in air, tryying to dodge a giant flamethrower(toothles needs to protect hiccup)and a bunch of huge blades aswell as a car sized bear trap)
@@tomasmisek5598 ok I don't know where your getting the blades and bear traps from but toothless fires plasma and is so accurate he never misses and smaug is slow.
@@joshuawebb4966 red death was also slow and hit toothless, also, he never misses a dragon the size of godzilla, and am getting blades and beartraps from his claws and jaws
This kinda reminds me of the last few how to train your dragon books when the Dragon Furious got all of the dragons to turn on the humans, creating the Red rage.
Dragons in HTTYD are fireproof, but they still can be damaged by other dragon’s fire, even their own species, plus smaug has super thick scales, while httyd dragons are shot by normal arrows
Personally, I think in a fight between Smaug and Toothless, Smaug would win, because his body armour is impenetrable and also the fact that Smaug can strategize and think. Also, we have already seen his ability to withstand extreme temperature and chemical changes in 'The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug' when the dwarves try to encase him in gold, so i don't think Toothless' plasma blast would do much to him, phase him slightly at the best ...
@@saharzaidi1018 Yes but for example steel has a higher melting point. Gold is one of the softer and easier to melt metals. For example the max temperature of burning wood is only 100 degrees below golds melting point.
Smaug has the advantage of physical force, intelligence, but also to detect other creatures presence. Both in the movie and the book he was able to sense exactly where Bilbo was while wearing the ring. Toothless speed, agility, and explosive fire power would give him a greater edge, but not his cloaking. Just wanted to clear that up.
I agree with you... I think toothless could see invisible things bc of his breed as a dragon. But, i assume other dragons could or could not see ghosts or vectors if they are something like a two-headed dragon or the round fat dragon. A Bewilderbeast on the other hand could see invisible things since they're the only dragons to telepathically communicate
I highly doubt Toothless could take Smaug down on his own. Smaug could swim underneath MOLTEN GOLD which is around 1,900 fahrenheit and lava is around 2,000 fahrenheit. Multiple times in the HTTYD show it's shown that not even Toothless can get close to lava without getting overheated. This would mean that Smaug is most likely fire proof on the outside AND inside and they have stronger scales than normal. I'm actually thinking that Smaug could not be beat by HTTYD dragons except the bewilderbeast or a very large army of dragons. There is also Smaug's intelligence, he is probably smarter than humans (as seen in the movie he immediately knows how to get under the skin of the dwarves and spots weaknesses within minutes) and would think of a plan to trick Toothless or trap him/put him at a disadvantage. Also Alteori was wrong about Smaugs fire power, it is stronger than Drogons' (Smaug's is around 3,650 fahrenheit, HOTTER THAN LAVA) edit: Just remembered that Smaug has literal magic in his scales (in the book) Alteori needs to do more research on characters before pitting them up against Toothless, who appears to never lose in these videos......
@Emily Mellon Just wanna add. The reason Smaug sleeps in gold is so that the gold will get in-between his scales and work as extra protection. So say if a dragon like Toothless does breath fire on Smaug, all Smaug would have to do is wait for that gold to harden, giving him even more protection even though he doesn't need it since his scales are literally impenetrable, except for an enchanted and extremely rare black arrow, of which only 3 existed, and they don't exist in the HTTYD universe.
I mean Smaug said his wings are a hurricane, so he probably would cause some huge hurricane type wind and knock toothless out of the sky, and any other surrounding dragons giving him an advantage
also, her math on Smaugs fire is off. To turn someone to ash in 5 minutes like drogons did it would actually require 35,359 Celcius (63,678 farenheit) as well as some serious impact force
1- Smaug got coated in molten gold and stood up like a bit of water fell on him . 2-no metal or weapon except a black arrow of which does not exist in the httyd world can harm him. 3-smaug was not easy to kill it was a lucky shot in 1 part of his body that was missing a scale from a former black arrow. 4-smaug is not only powerful but extremely smart able to play mind games with bilbo and notice a single golden cup missing from his golden stash.(If Smaug was born in the First Age, he should have been at least 6212 years old at his death ) 5-a single breath of fire was able to shatter stone building with its force alone. 6-Some comments in The Hobbit imply that his entire body was imbued with fire, At the end of the trilogy we see the one ring melt in the "Fires of Mount Doom" - which we can assume to be a poetic description of an open volcanic fissure. Lava reaches temperatures of up to 1,250 C, and we know that Gandalf was unsure that the fire of even the greatest dragon would be hot enough to melt the one ring, then that puts an upper cap on dragon fire of 1,250 C. toothless a fast, semi intelligent dragon who needs the help of hiccup to fly. smaugs mind games probably won't work on toothless ,but may be affective against hiccup, Toothless is small fast and has great cover at night with fast plasma blasts, smaug realizing this tries to set the sky on fire with his fire that has a huge range and while playing mind games with hiccup remember toothless's tail is flameable so getting away from his fire is most important, avoiding the fire toothless fires rapidly at smaug who taked it with little to no damage(keep in mind hiccup does not khow about his missing scale and smaug would try to keep it that way) toothless side 1-he is small and fast with great stealth at night making him impossible to track or see. 2- has plasma blast's that he can fire at a quick rate,These blasts can be fired with pinpoint accuracy,This fire isn't particularly strong, but is said to be incredibly hot 3-he has a form of echo locate 4-a night fury is one of the smartest dragons higher than a few humans 5-The Night Furies' main type of attack is dive-bombing. Night Furies fold their wings to create a streamlined, aerodynamic shape while they dive from the sky, helping them to achieve greater speed while they accelerate downwards. It has been observed that at the last moment, Night Furies open their wings to create drag, then lift off. The blast can do great amounts of damage, as one has even been seen to knock a Red Death to the ground,If a Night Fury does this at night, it remains completely camouflaged and blends in with the dark sky so its targets can't see it coming. comment who do you think would win and comment if i left something out, or if some of my data is wrong
@@mrhalfwit972 I mean if you really think smaug should have some weakness, With gronkle iron being forged inside a dragon it might harm smaug but that's very unlikely.
There's two ways I see this going. In the hobbit smaugs scales are unbreakable by pretty much anything, if he was randomly transported to the how to train your dragon universe toothless would probably go for the one missing scale on smaugs chest. If smaug evolved in the how to train your dragon universe he wouldn't be missing that scale and he would use his brute strangth and size to kill toothless.
Smaug survived molten gold, and flew hundreds of feet in the air with one flap of his wings while covered in said molten gold. He's just too strong and durable for Toothless to go anywhere near him. He also utterly destroyed Dale, Erebor, and Esgaroth, something I doubt any dragon from HTTYD can do. And Grimmel said that Night Furies cannot fly long distances without rest, essentially stating that Toothless's stamina ain't that impressive. I think Toothless is outmatched.
@riyadriyad5911 Gold melts at 1,948°F... *That's a lot more than JUST fire* Edit: Gold is also quite heavy. So not only can Smaug survive higher temperatures, he can move around and even FLY with like half a TON of Gold on him.
He'd be their most formidable opponent in technicality, the cruelty of the worst of humanity, and the abilities of the most powerful being on Middle Earth.
Alteori, you do realize Smaug has a hypnotic nature to him right? That’s how he got bilbo to take the ring off. Toothless is seen to be very susceptible to mind control, Smaug would easily overpower toothless mentally.
Luis Barone These are two different types of hypnosis. Toothless got controlled by THE alpha, and he was right in front of him, but still managed to resist it for a few seconds. Current Toothless IS the alpha, so he can’t be controlled. He does the controlling. Smaug hypnotises by riddles and persuasion. Toothless wouldn’t care about that.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 Mate because it was Of friendship he was able To break the mind control Because of hiccup and his connection That why if Smaug kill hiccup first and then controlled Toothless ... toothless wouldn't be able to break it.
Did you forget Smaug has very strong armor and his breath can blast through stone he busted through the front of the lonely mountain survived boiling hot liquid gold and it mostly just angered him
Smaug would destroy and eat much of the cast. Its gonna be " The Hobbit: How it should have ended" all over again. Also don't forget Smaug is armored both above...and below. ( except for his vulnerable spot)
Na toothless wins toothless can resist fire like Ghidorah the only way smaug can kill t is biteing him but toothless can doge those attacks easily toothless plasma can rip smaug
@@legend1089 own all the movies and enjoyed snozzletog on November last year. I've Also watched all Netflix series and own the current dvd releases of the series shown on CN. Try me kid. You don't know anything about Smaug, do you? Also, if you do, make sure it isn't just the Peter Jackson film. Watch the Rankin Bass Hobbit special and read the Book.
Both Norze Thor and Marvel Thor has taken down dragons more powerful and smarter than toothless. Thor is said to kill Joutmengander in norse mythology who is some times said to be a serpent dragon the size of the planet or the midgard realm. Thor in Marvel has taken down Fing Fang Foom before. So toothless ass is kinda grass.
i like to mention that Toothless, like any other dragon that exists in httyd, has a limit of 7 plasma blasts that he can use ( this is mentioned in the series ). Smaug dosent have that and would probebly just keep fiering at Toothless until Toohtless runs out of shots. Also Smaug got buried under liqued Gold wich didnt phase him at all ( note it got in to his mouth as well ).
The idea that Smaug being the alpha and being able to speak to humans but hating them reminds me of furious from the original httyd books. With his hatred towards humans and the fact he can talk to both humans and dragons, plus he was the one who started the human dragon war in the books if you didn’t know.
Before I start let me just say I love Alteori and her content and I know this video is over a year old lol I'm just going to say Toothless vs Smaug would go a bit differently than Alteori made it sound like it would go. Smaug is covered head to toe with incredibly durable fireproof scales, shown to be stronger than the strongest steels and reinforced shields, and we've seen his fire breathe hit structures with enough force to shatter stone towers and level city blocks from just the initial impact, before anything really starts burning. While Toothless has a very powerful plasma blast that hits with seemingly explosive force and could possibly be stronger than Smaugs flames, it's not necessarily something that would be able to noticeably harm Smaug, and Smaugs flame breathe covers a MUCH larger area and can be continued without stopping for several seconds at a time instead of just a single concentrated blast, making it a VERY big threat to Toothless because of the "aoe" potential. Toothless however in a movie setting, would win, and would have the perfect simple reason. Smaug has one fatal weak spot where a scale was torn off by a powerful black arrow made specifically for killing dragons, and Toothless supposedly never misses his shots(unless you count some of the HTTYD shows as cannon). However, this assumes that if Smaug was in the HTTYD universe he would still have that scale torn off and exposed flesh underneath, although in a more realistic situation the black arrow would have never been used against him and his entire body would have basically no weaknesses. If this more realistic scenario was the case, then Toothless really doesn't stand much of a chance at all. Another note I have about her video is that Smaug would be unlikely to care about other dragons, possibly taking more of a solitary lifestyle. He could even possibly end up as a sort of Galakrond parallel, living off of eating other smaller dragons as he grows in size and age. Also, when Alteori says "again, it was kind of easy to kill Smaug", it was VERY hard to kill him. He was shot, hammered, and even completely submerged in searing hot molten gold and was barely harmed by any of those, completely ignoring basically everything other than the whole gold bath which did distress him and cause pain but didn't seem to have actually damaged or physically harmed him in any way. The reason Smaug died was simple: being very, very, very lucky. The one person prepared with the one weapon that could hurt him was in the one place he could have a good vantage point for one single shot to one small spot on Smaugs body. This is just pretty much just being incredibly lucky.
NEXT TIME ON WHAT IF WHAT IF ANCALAGON THE BLACK WAS IN HTTYD Ps I highly doubt that toothless would win against Smaug. Sure he has speed advantage but toothlesses race is about speed and haste and he can’t go fly for long (said in HTTYD 3). And not only that his plasma attack is strong yes but I highly doubt that it would destroy Smaug as in the movies his plasma attack doesn’t do much to the buildings, while Smaug fricking pushed through a whole stone wall and burned a whole city to ashes with no problem.
Smaug would've been the king of dragons cuz his larger and fire proof he hid himself with gold and he didn't feel anything while he was covered in melted gold
First size doesn't matter toothless beat red death and alpha dragon ( i forgot his name) which are both larger than smaug. Second toothless is also fire proof And he did fell gold on him
How to (not) piss off Smaug. #1 He IS the Alpha. #2, there is no #2 with Smaug. He only had 1 vulnerable spot on his left breast. Aside from that, Smaug has no weaknesses. Fire wouldn't hurt him either.
@@MrSoso1050 agreed. After all his armor is like ten fold shields, hes teeth are like swords, his claws spears, the shock of his tail a thunderbolt and his wings are Hurricanes!
Not to mention Smaug on the verge of dying jump and starting flying into the air get to thousands of feet in the air in seconds before dying and falling back down this is in the movie because that seems to be the one we are using
I would like to point out that Smaug wouldn't probably give a single shit about the force behind Toothless's blasts seeing how in the second hobbit he ran straight through a several meter wide stone wall like it was nothing. Also his fall from at least a kilometre did not create any additional visible wounds which is impressive seeing how his mass would give him a very large momentum.
@@sboilerboy7882 But some Dragon Hunter ships took down toothless and in real life toothless could not kill the red death because it's like fight fire with fire
Bit awkward if smaug can't catch toothless and toothless can't kill smaug because of the scales that at this point I'm sure are made of minecraft bedrock.
Smaug: huh? What is it? Toothless: *Fire Blast at Smaugs Chest.* Smaug: You do Realise that my scales are fire Proof and are hard as iron right? If Liquid Gold and dwarfs bombs did no damage them how should your little fire crackers do anything to me?
H- You can speak my language...? S- I can do more than you expect. I'm not one of your pets, dragon-rider H- You misunderstood our relation. I'm not a master, I'm just a guide, for vikings and dragons to live in harmony S- Harmony?! Ha! What a waste of time. I am more than a servant for everyone. I am a king under with a treasure that everyone dreams with it. Everything that lives, live because I allow it. My scales are shields, my teeths are swords, my claws are spears, and my wings (starts flying) a hurricane. I am fire, I am... Death. H- Then you are not so different from who I already defeated. If you think you can do everything without consequences... is because you never meet us (firesword) S- Brave, brave, very brave and stupid. Tell me, Dragon-rider... How you choose to die? (The fight starts)
One thing that wasn't factored in is Smag's armor (scales). Regular arrows would just bounce off him. Black Arrows (which likely were either magical or had highly advanced scientific properties) were required to take him down and it took at least two in the same exact lethal spot to do the job. One black arrow created a hole and then the other finished the job (years later). Smaug was also completely submerged in gold, holt molted gold. It should also be noted that Smaug had his mouth open when he was submerged, so he definitely swallowed some of it. A test in 2003 on a dead cow showed that pouring gold inside would rupture the internal organs, burn deep into the muscle and solidify in within 10 seconds. Gold has a melting point of 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Considering we are dealing with gold made by Dwarves (and thus might have some magical or advanced scientific properties) and this gold remained a flowing river for some time, we can assume that it is probably much hotter. And yet, all it did was cause Smaug burning pain and he shook it off relatively easily and was completely fine afterward, having not negative effects on his eyes or the old wound from the black arrow. So, Smaug might have at least some resistance to the special weaponry the other dragons are bringing to the fight. Not sure not long he would hold out, but I doubt he would be taken out immediately.
I think Drogon's flame is more magical in nature. I remember one of the mages that held Dany was wearing clothes that were flamed, and couldn't extinguish them and was initially confused that the fire wouldn't go out. Smagu doesn't seem to have that nature, although he is quite magical in other ways.
I suppose you don't know what plasma is. Any fire is automatically plasma. It's just some fire are better quality plasma than some other fire In case of smaug's fire breath, it's considered a good if not great quality plasma, rewatch the scene where he obliterate Dale. Fire that is not a good plasma will take a long time to blast stone, smaug fire breath easily destroy stones. Compared to toothless breath attack, i'd say they are roughly equal, although smaug breath attack cover far larger area
I can't help but imagine Smaug showing up in the video and throwing his speech: "My teeth are swords, my claws are spears, my wings are a HURRICANE!!" before bursting out an absolute inferno around the place xd
Smaug in How to train your Dragon: Toothless and all the other dragons would be obliterated. How? Why? Badassery-based plot armor, bitches! XD (I'm a huge Smaug fan)
Although you have made some good points you seemed to be a bit bias on Toothless's behalf. Toothless is awesome and powerful but you have defiantly over looked a lot of things on Smaug in favor of Toothless. Honestly I think they can stand a good chance against each other but you have missed a few important details when it would come to their fight. 1. Toothless would not only have to worry about himself but Hiccup as well. 2. Although Smaug was killed by a single arrow you need to keep in mind that it was no easy task due to the fact that the only reason that the arrow worked was because it was a black arrow and it also had to hit a spot where another black arrow had hit previously (so in actuality it took two black arrows) not to mention it was only by shear luck that Smaug was hit. Smaug can not be killed by normal human weapons, not even fazed. Unlike toothless who can be harmed and even killed. 3. Smuag has the dragon spell, which is basically a hypnotism thing. So not only would toothless have to worry about Smaug's physical advantage but also his dragon spell. This would also have an effect on Hiccup as well. 4. Toothless is handicapped, he has to rely on a prosthetic fin on his tail in order to fly and depending on what part of the Httyd timeline we are going off of he would need Hiccup to fly. So if Smaug gets rid of Hiccup or manages to break that prosthetic fin some how that can really screw up Toothless's chances. You have to keep in mind that Smaug is not only intelligent but also tend to be quite observant. Even when Bilbo was invisible with the ring Smaug still knew that he was there. Therefore Toothless's cloaking ability would be deemed ineffective, or at least have very little effect. 5. Smaug's fire maybe hotter than you think. If you look at the movie Smaug's fire is hot enough to melt mountains gold with in minutes. Gold begins to melt at 1,948°F(Note BEGINS to melt) in order for Smaug to melt enough gold to make that giant statue in minutes, his fire would have to be way pass the melting point of gold. Not to say that he could surpass Toothless's temperature but he might stand a better chance against it than you think. I think it all basically chalks up to who does what first. As well as who gets lucky. All in all I would like to see you do another video on this after doing a bit more research on Smaug's behalf becuase you REALLY missed a lot of stuff.
And the only tricky part that toothless needs to worry about is smaug spell but it only works on those who understand it like a wolf whod not be phased by that spell because smaug cant make Woolf understand what hes saying but toothless is a dragon like smaug but it's an interesting thing on if toothless can understand the dragon that was teleported from another universe and even if he does dragon language consists of roaring groaning screaming and other at least in the franchise so it whod take him a small amount of time to start his enchantment and if you say hut smaug doesnt need time and nooo he can easily put toothless under trans your wrong because dragons in middle eart are not made to control animals or dragons they are ment for men dwarfs elfs and etc beings with sentience in that world so it whod make no sense for melkor to give a dragon abilities to control other dragons because why whod he all of the dragons serve him either way so smaug magic is pretty much a speculation which if we took into account whod take more than a month of speculation on this topic because tolken never intended for all of this
@@georgiancountryball202 You have made good points, but it all depends on the point of time which is not specified here. The reason why I brought Hiccup into the argument is because that would be the most likely reason why this fight would have probably taken place. Because I honestly don't think there would be another reason to fight. I don't really see toothless going out of his way to defeat Smaug if Smaug is just chilling in his mountain. And I don't think Smaug would really care about whatever Toothless and the other dragons are doing as long as they stay away from his gold, which I suppose could be the reason to fight but from what I have gathered from the movies gold doesn't seem to be something that the dragons are after. So the most likely scenario is that Hiccup tried to investigate with Toothless and the other dragon riders and then shit hit fan because Smaug hates humans and Hiccup and the crew might have accidentally offended him. And again this would all depend on the point of time in the httyd universe. And since it's not specified here, (from what I had gathered at least I might just have to watch again) and the most likely scenario being that Toothleess is trying to protect Hiccup and possibly all of Berk from Smaug's wrath it could very well take place between the first and third movie. Edit: I just re watched and see what the fight is now and the point of time so the timeline would be a factor because she does seem to specify that he is a factor in one scenario which Smaug would most likely use as a target whether Toothless needs him to fly or not. But if we are just talking a bout a very unlikely random fight here with Toothless is as he now and they are just fighting for the sake of fighting then toothless would defiantly have the advantage with speed and fire but Smaug's tough armor may make it difficult depending if we are going off movie or book. In the movie it took special kind of weapon to take him down even on his weak spot. In the book just a "lucky arrow" So if we go off the movie if Toothless's abilities are strong enough to get through that armor or Smaug is not fire proof enough (Which either can be a possibility it's not really specified how well Smaug can withstand other dragons force and fire) It's most likely that Smaug is just gonna tire of the battle and retreat since Smaug seems to be more lazy than Toothless. If we go off the book then yeah he's screwed.
Smaug has iron like scales that are fire proof and even liquid gold wich is 1 064°C Hot did nothing to them and dwarfs explosives did not do anything either how is toothless gonna do anything?
Red Death would win against Smaug most likely because both can fly, are heavily fireproof, but one is a heavyweight with a heavy jaw and a bad temper. Plus The red death is marginally bigger, Smaug would have to try and be manoeuvrable in that or he would lose big time. Smaug V bewilderbeast would be more interesting due to the latter's inability to fly. But when you consider that the bewilderbeast is bigger, it would probably come down to one well placed smack or ice blast and squished red drake would be on the menu.
Toothless might we more agile and swift but remember toothless got pinned down by humans in the first movie showing his vulnerability so one hit from Smaug might be a almost 1 shot
@@Uaveatz2 bull shit Cause Toothless is a boss, he blew of the tusk a Dragon that was bigger than smaug, with one plasma blast, Smaug doesn't stand a chance, plus if necessary he'll tell the dragons to do what they want and help him out Smaug doesn't stand a chance
@@fatpigeon7422 what the fuck does Godzilla have to do with anything Anyway no Toothless has fought 2 dragons that were 100x bigger than him and even blew off the damn tusk of one of them Not to mention he can cloak himself with lightning and he's got powerful plasma blasts and is the king of Dragons So how about you shut up Smaug 0% and Toothless 100%
@@flamerthevelcioraptorrevie1638 I’m sure it has to do a lot with Godzilla lmao. Also Smaug wins out of sheer strength and intelligence. You only like toothless just because Alteori likes him, Smaug can only be killed by the black arrow which doesn’t even exist in the how to train your dragon universe. Smaug 100% Toothless 0% just overrated garbage
Changewings can camouflage and they spit Acid instead of flames, so I wonder how Smaug would handle THAT as well as that one dragon- DeathSong I believe it's called- that spits an amber that encases it's prey and EATS WHATEVER IT CATCHES Likely Smaug would figure out quickly that fire melts the amber but would he still be lured in by the DeathSong's music.
(Two mated deathsongs are inhabiting an Island) Male: Wife! Female: Oh hello dear, have you got tonight's tea sorted? Male: You could say that . . . (drags in mesmerised Smaug)
Remember that smaug has scales like iron no arrow can Pierce it exept a black arrow and even that did not pierce him one shot only removed one of his scales so you really whould need 2 black arrows and dwarfs had Access to bombs and explosives yet they didint use them because smaugs scales whould prevent the bombs from doing any damage to him and toothlesses fire blast are basicly just little stronger bombs. I whould also want to add toothlesses fire blast was not strong enought to pierce threw red deadths leather wings he only made the leather weaker so if it could not pierce leather what makes you think it can pierce dragons scales that are fire proof and hard as metal?
Are we seriously saying that toothless can’t Peirce a material as strong as iron? He literally blew a whole threw a metal cage designed to contain dragons and one-shot buildings for breakfast in the 1st movie. Smaug is toast
are we all forgetting that smaug can curse people with dragon spells and use all the dragons as puppets, he can make men go mad and fight things that aren't there
Smaug: *enters HTTYD* Ghidorah: I was here first! So I’m the alpha! So you must obey me! Smaug: I’m an alpha too. Toothless: Same? Ghidorah: IDC Edit: wow thx for the likes and comments
Minh Duy Chu the Director himself has stated that it’s THE oxygen destroyer. Destoroyah most definitely couldn’t defeat MV Ghidorah. Alduin has a slight chance, but considering the shear size of Ghidorah and the resilience he had to 3 nuclear pulses that are hotter than the surface of the sun? He can take a beating. I don’t even know who super shenron is, but I’m kind of interested. Is he like a dragon too?
Umm... Im sorry to say this but the dragons from Middle Earth are extremely durable and intelligent, even more intelligent to most elves, dwarfs, and men. Smaug can literally catch toothless and rip him apart.
@@draw2death421 correct smaugs scales were tough as iron and as you said. fire proof. but then there's nuclear fire which if it dosnt work a good bite will do it considering how much godzilla weighs
We always forget how fierce Toothless is, just because he's adorable.
@Palmer Stewart sãd scene
Same keed
@Palmer Stewart because the Alpha mind controlled him.
Just like a cat
You forgot one trait that dragons like Smaug have; Dragon speech, and The Dragons song. Both of these abilities have the power to control other beings, which is why they sent Bilbo in instead of themselves, because it has little effect on hobbits, but if you watch carefully, it still almost took control of Bilbo, forcing him to take the ring off to become visible, allowing Smaug to see him. It was NOT the Ring controling him, despite how it seems.
but we have seen in httyd 2 that toothless can resist mind controlling, and he can control with respect, and not fear
@@Theriople key word "resist" he is not completely free of it. Also Smaug's abilities are much stronger then what the alpha dragons in how to train your dragon are capable of. Plus the abilities from the type of dragon Smaug is can effect not just animals, but humanoids as well, so in a way, Smaug can just turn the humans against them.
@@xanthiusdrake2775 toothless is faster than the speed of sound, if he starts goin full speed before he talks he should be able to not hear it partially, or something like that i guess
The other person in this reply section is right compared to the alpha call that needed literaly no time to come into effect the dragon speech you talk of needs to be first heard by one whos willing to listen meaning it's a psychological exploit smaug has but there is an exploit against that exploit as well loud sounds or just getting far enough so that the speech is blurry and we have no in real evidence that smaug roars count as the dragon speech maybe humans will fall to him because smaug can talk human but his roars will in no way defeat the dragons
@@georgiancountryball202 Not 100% true, a creature or person does not need to be "willing to listen" for either dragon speech or the dragons song to take effect, it can happen as soon as they hear it, especially the dragons song, as it can effect pretty much anything that has ears. Also Toothless' speed does not change anything, in most cases with fantasy, a dragons song can't be outrun due to its magical properties, it can only be escaped with distance.
I’m more interested in the dynamic between Smaug and Hiccup than the dynamic between Smaug and Toothless. I think a lot of people are forgetting that Smaug is sentient and VERY cunning. I could see him taking advantage of Hiccup’s “all dragons are misunderstood” philosophy and manipulating Hiccup for his own gain using that.
Youre so right
I very much could picture that
You underestimate Smaug speed while at his death bed he flew hundreds of feet into the air in seconds
Would rip toothlesses wings of picked him up drop him and say goodbye
@Emily Mellon he fought and beat the bewilderbeast.
Yeah but to toothless can fly faster than the speed of sound
@@anonymous5t565 yeah a super slow huge dragon
@@anonymous5t565 super large and slow target and toothless had a dragon army
Toothless: No other dragon can beat me!
Ancalagon the Black: Hold my beer
showing true culture.
Still i belive Smaug is way more powerful than Tootles, Ancalagon is actually on Godzilla's league. so a battle between Ancalagon and toothless would be like the strongest man on earth fighting an ant.
King Ghidorah will instant kill Toothless and Ancalagon (when you think about it).
Actually Ancalagon V Ghidorah would be worth watching. And frankly Smaug is more powerful than Toothless, but I would compare Smaug fighting toothless to a person trying to swat a fly carrying a miniature AK-47 with a newspaper. Not physically impossible, but my God vastly infuriating.
@@themockingdragon135 Toothless has fought three titanwings.
He is used to being the little guy.
@@creaturetransylvania8943 case in point. By the way, by "titan" you presumably mean alpha dragons (dragons that assume some position over others that aren't their own kind). Those being red death, screaming death, bewilderbeast, in your case. One could also count the other two alpha dragons if you include the comics.
Toothlesses temporarily being invisible probably wouldn’t be a problem for Smaug since he managed to find Bilbo even when he had the ring on. (Making him invisible)
Smaug could prob sense soul reapers
The difference is that he found him by scent and in an all out battle with lot of fire and plasma his scent whod not be good enough
She forgot one thing, his scales. Smaug has a advantage over Toothless because the dragons in HTTYD hide or scales can be penetrated while Smaug can't be penetrated by human weapons.
Except for that spot under his wing.
@@joshuawebb4966 you try to hit a palm sized spot on a plane zipping around with your spit while in air, tryying to dodge a giant flamethrower(toothles needs to protect hiccup)and a bunch of huge blades aswell as a car sized bear trap)
@@tomasmisek5598 ok I don't know where your getting the blades and bear traps from but toothless fires plasma and is so accurate he never misses and smaug is slow.
@@joshuawebb4966 red death was also slow and hit toothless, also, he never misses a dragon the size of godzilla, and am getting blades and beartraps from his claws and jaws
@@tomasmisek5598 smaug is a dragon the size of Godzilla.
Honestly I didn’t want Smaug to die in the hobbit
You and me: Smaug should have won
One arrow: y e e t
Same I can’t believe bard got the luckiest shot of his life
Yeah I wish the arrow missed
Same
@@cinderfoxx same
This kinda reminds me of the last few how to train your dragon books when the Dragon Furious got all of the dragons to turn on the humans, creating the Red rage.
This is exactly what I tought! :DD
It's so great that both the books and the film adaptation are great!
How to prevent a dragon (Smaug)
_Smaug, a dragon with an iconic line "I'm fire I'm death" literally got kinkshamed in the comments down below_
I hate people...
I am Fire... I am..
GROOT!
Smaug could set Toothless's prosthetic tailfin on fire and obliterate it, then battle him on the ground.
Dinosnore 42
Toothless’ tailfin is fireproof now.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 I guess that's a logical step after the end of the first movie.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 ghidorah would just bite it off
Taejeoonè
This is about Smaug, not Ghidorah.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 i was talking about how he can get killed not smaug
Dragons in HTTYD are fireproof, but they still can be damaged by other dragon’s fire, even their own species, plus smaug has super thick scales, while httyd dragons are shot by normal arrows
Do you think httyd could sense a presence they can't seen like smaug? Or could they see better spectrums than humans?
Personally, I think in a fight between Smaug and Toothless, Smaug would win, because his body armour is impenetrable and also the fact that Smaug can strategize and think. Also, we have already seen his ability to withstand extreme temperature and chemical changes in 'The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug' when the dwarves try to encase him in gold, so i don't think Toothless' plasma blast would do much to him, phase him slightly at the best ...
Gold is actually not that hot in a liquid state. It melts at around 1945 Fahrenheit or 1063 Celsius.
@@thechainwarden thats roughly 1/5 the temperature of the sun, so ig thats still pretty hot though ....
@@saharzaidi1018 Yes but for example steel has a higher melting point. Gold is one of the softer and easier to melt metals. For example the max temperature of burning wood is only 100 degrees below golds melting point.
@@thechainwarden ok then....
ARE WE ALL FORGETTING SMAUG IS A DRAGON AND IS FIRE PROOF ASWELL are we all just ignore that part.
Smaug has the advantage of physical force, intelligence, but also to detect other creatures presence. Both in the movie and the book he was able to sense exactly where Bilbo was while wearing the ring. Toothless speed, agility, and explosive fire power would give him a greater edge, but not his cloaking. Just wanted to clear that up.
I agree with you... I think toothless could see invisible things bc of his breed as a dragon. But, i assume other dragons could or could not see ghosts or vectors if they are something like a two-headed dragon or the round fat dragon. A Bewilderbeast on the other hand could see invisible things since they're the only dragons to telepathically communicate
I highly doubt Toothless could take Smaug down on his own. Smaug could swim underneath MOLTEN GOLD which is around 1,900 fahrenheit and lava is around 2,000 fahrenheit. Multiple times in the HTTYD show it's shown that not even Toothless can get close to lava without getting overheated. This would mean that Smaug is most likely fire proof on the outside AND inside and they have stronger scales than normal. I'm actually thinking that Smaug could not be beat by HTTYD dragons except the bewilderbeast or a very large army of dragons.
There is also Smaug's intelligence, he is probably smarter than humans (as seen in the movie he immediately knows how to get under the skin of the dwarves and spots weaknesses within minutes) and would think of a plan to trick Toothless or trap him/put him at a disadvantage. Also Alteori was wrong about Smaugs fire power, it is stronger than Drogons' (Smaug's is around 3,650 fahrenheit, HOTTER THAN LAVA)
edit: Just remembered that Smaug has literal magic in his scales (in the book) Alteori needs to do more research on characters before pitting them up against Toothless, who appears to never lose in these videos......
You really don't know how destructive is toothless's breath
And toothless is also massivly faster
than smaug
Plasma is heavy, and with that amount of speed. Plasma will work the same as Heat rounds on tank
@Emily Mellon Just wanna add. The reason Smaug sleeps in gold is so that the gold will get in-between his scales and work as extra protection. So say if a dragon like Toothless does breath fire on Smaug, all Smaug would have to do is wait for that gold to harden, giving him even more protection even though he doesn't need it since his scales are literally impenetrable, except for an enchanted and extremely rare black arrow, of which only 3 existed, and they don't exist in the HTTYD universe.
@Emily Mellon ye imagine a whole large massive dragon speed compared to a smaller one
wait can i add that toothless is faster then sound?
Bruh smaugs fire is 12 000 degrees Celsius
I mean Smaug said his wings are a hurricane, so he probably would cause some huge hurricane type wind and knock toothless out of the sky, and any other surrounding dragons giving him an advantage
also, her math on Smaugs fire is off. To turn someone to ash in 5 minutes like drogons did it would actually require 35,359 Celcius (63,678 farenheit) as well as some serious impact force
1- Smaug got coated in molten gold and stood up like a bit of water fell on him .
2-no metal or weapon except a black arrow of which does not exist in the httyd world can harm him.
3-smaug was not easy to kill it was a lucky shot in 1 part of his body that was missing a scale from a former black arrow.
4-smaug is not only powerful but extremely smart able to play mind games with bilbo and notice a single golden cup missing from his golden stash.(If Smaug was born in the First Age, he should have been at least 6212 years old at his death )
5-a single breath of fire was able to shatter stone building with its force alone.
6-Some comments in The Hobbit imply that his entire body was imbued with fire,
At the end of the trilogy we see the one ring melt in the "Fires of Mount Doom" - which we can assume to be a poetic description of an open volcanic fissure.
Lava reaches temperatures of up to 1,250 C, and we know that Gandalf was unsure that the fire of even the greatest dragon would be hot enough to melt the one ring, then that puts an upper cap on dragon fire of 1,250 C.
toothless
a fast, semi intelligent dragon who needs the help of hiccup to fly.
smaugs mind games probably won't work on toothless ,but may be affective against hiccup,
Toothless is small fast and has great cover at night with fast plasma blasts, smaug realizing this tries to set the sky on fire with his fire that has a huge range and while playing mind games with hiccup
remember toothless's tail is flameable so getting away from his fire is most important,
avoiding the fire toothless fires rapidly at smaug who taked it with little to no damage(keep in mind hiccup does not khow about his missing scale and smaug would try to keep it that way)
toothless side
1-he is small and fast with great stealth at night making him impossible to track or see.
2- has plasma blast's that he can fire at a quick rate,These blasts can be fired with pinpoint accuracy,This fire isn't particularly strong, but is said to be incredibly hot
3-he has a form of echo locate
4-a night fury is one of the smartest dragons higher than a few humans
5-The Night Furies' main type of attack is dive-bombing. Night Furies fold their wings to create a streamlined, aerodynamic shape while they dive from the sky, helping them to achieve greater speed while they accelerate downwards. It has been observed that at the last moment, Night Furies open their wings to create drag, then lift off. The blast can do great amounts of damage, as one has even been seen to knock a Red Death to the ground,If a Night Fury does this at night, it remains completely camouflaged and blends in with the dark sky so its targets can't see it coming.
comment who do you think would win
and comment if i left something out, or if some of my data is wrong
Althou the black arrow you could count gronkle iron as the same metal
The watcher man how?
@@mrhalfwit972 I mean if you really think smaug should have some weakness,
With gronkle iron being forged inside a dragon it might harm smaug but that's very unlikely.
@@thewatcherman3659 the black arrow is made form black iron probably but yeah gronkle iron might do damage if they can hit that one small spot
@@thewatcherman3659 To clarify this black arrow was enchanted basically, I doubt they have magic in the world of HTTYD.
There's two ways I see this going. In the hobbit smaugs scales are unbreakable by pretty much anything, if he was randomly transported to the how to train your dragon universe toothless would probably go for the one missing scale on smaugs chest. If smaug evolved in the how to train your dragon universe he wouldn't be missing that scale and he would use his brute strangth and size to kill toothless.
Smaug: (insert t-Rex noise)
Toothless: (insert plasma yeet noise)
Smaug: oh sh-
Imma try and use the phrase *Plasma Yeet Noise* before i die
Braek Jones this is the “plasma yeet noise” scrreeeeeeeeeeeckeeeeeerahhhpitow
Lol yes
Nope that would not happen it's more like plazmer dose not hurt smaug and smaugs fire dose not hurt toothless it's like fight fire with fire right
@@jayblondi very true
ANCALAGON: *yeet them both out*
Smaug survived molten gold, and flew hundreds of feet in the air with one flap of his wings while covered in said molten gold. He's just too strong and durable for Toothless to go anywhere near him. He also utterly destroyed Dale, Erebor, and Esgaroth, something I doubt any dragon from HTTYD can do. And Grimmel said that Night Furies cannot fly long distances without rest, essentially stating that Toothless's stamina ain't that impressive. I think Toothless is outmatched.
Toothless is fire proof so molten gold wouldn't do much
@riyadriyad5911 Gold melts at 1,948°F...
*That's a lot more than JUST fire*
Edit: Gold is also quite heavy. So not only can Smaug survive higher temperatures, he can move around and even FLY with like half a TON of Gold on him.
He'd be their most formidable opponent in technicality, the cruelty of the worst of humanity, and the abilities of the most powerful being on Middle Earth.
"Most powerful being on Middle Earth"
One Arrow: imma bout to end this dragons whole career
Teddy Richard I mean. Your not wrong.
Smaugs completely impervious to all except the black arrows, and Smaug is a being of magic you can't leave magic out of the equation
I have a question, would smaug befriend a creature that can make gold? Or even turn things into actual gold?
Interesting thought...
He’d probably enslave it.
@@luisbarone8390 yeah probably, better keep the golden Dragon away, smaug would just steal the egg
@@luisbarone8390 yep
Smaug would propably befriend with iron man and batman cause they both are so rich they can have gold too
Alteori, you do realize Smaug has a hypnotic nature to him right? That’s how he got bilbo to take the ring off. Toothless is seen to be very susceptible to mind control, Smaug would easily overpower toothless mentally.
Luis Barone
These are two different types of hypnosis. Toothless got controlled by THE alpha, and he was right in front of him, but still managed to resist it for a few seconds. Current Toothless IS the alpha, so he can’t be controlled. He does the controlling.
Smaug hypnotises by riddles and persuasion. Toothless wouldn’t care about that.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 Agree
@Kaleela Edwards Ew
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 Mate because it was Of friendship he was able To break the mind control Because of hiccup and his connection That why if Smaug kill hiccup first and then controlled Toothless ... toothless wouldn't be able to break it.
I keep clicking these videos waiting for another second of shin Godzilla
Nightmare fuel
smaug is immune to a death songs song and can withstand every attack a dragon could use in httyd
Did you forget Smaug has very strong armor and his breath can blast through stone he busted through the front of the lonely mountain survived boiling hot liquid gold and it mostly just angered him
If Smaug was in how to train your dragon,he would talk about how he is fire and death. LOL messin around!!🤗🤣
sdfgffhh hnbgff F off!!
C49 why is you angry
He wouldn't mess he would Murder
Smaug would destroy and eat much of the cast. Its gonna be " The Hobbit: How it should have ended" all over again. Also don't forget Smaug is armored both above...and below.
( except for his vulnerable spot)
His wings aren't armoured
@@philipsyoutube6111 yes actually, they are
Na toothless wins toothless can resist fire like Ghidorah the only way smaug can kill t is biteing him but toothless can doge those attacks easily toothless plasma can rip smaug
@@legend1089 ye lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@legend1089 own all the movies and enjoyed snozzletog on November last year. I've Also watched all Netflix series and own the current dvd releases of the series shown on CN. Try me kid. You don't know anything about Smaug, do you? Also, if you do, make sure it isn't just the Peter Jackson film. Watch the Rankin Bass Hobbit special and read the Book.
Can you do A POV OFF THE LIFE AND DEATH OF THE RED DEATH please respect Alteori 😃👍.
Never giving up.
Next video:
“What if thor fight Toothless” lol
JPTrady Thor would destroy toothless by raining all the thunder in the world on toothless and do you mean Norse mythology Thor or marvel thor
SboilerBoy ! Norse thor , I mean he’s a dragon 😂
Both Norze Thor and Marvel Thor has taken down dragons more powerful and smarter than toothless. Thor is said to kill Joutmengander in norse mythology who is some times said to be a serpent dragon the size of the planet or the midgard realm. Thor in Marvel has taken down Fing Fang Foom before. So toothless ass is kinda grass.
@@draconicdemigod9696 whats a joutmengander
Toothless would be dead as hell
forgot this?:
The only thing that can piearce Smaugs hide (skin) is a Black Arrow
@Amethyst So literally everything would be fucked.
i like to mention that Toothless, like any other dragon that exists in httyd, has a limit of 7 plasma blasts that he can use ( this is mentioned in the series ).
Smaug dosent have that and would probebly just keep fiering at Toothless until Toohtless runs out of shots.
Also Smaug got buried under liqued Gold wich didnt phase him at all ( note it got in to his mouth as well ).
Have you ever thought of doing one of these with "The Inheritance Cycle", "Skyrim" or "Dragon Rage"?
His fire do nothing but his jaw...
RIP toothless
Toothless is too fast!!!!😡😡😡
Agreed phillip's TH-cam
@@philipsyoutube6111 well yep but smaugs fire will do nothing and same goes for plazmer blast
Smaug is super fast and has a huge jaw. His bite is really severe and can fly while being in liquid Gold for 20 seconds
@@jayblondi Smaug has a huge jaw and can do damage at least.
lol i can just imagine Hiccup trying to do that magic hand trick on Smaug and getting toasted
The idea that Smaug being the alpha and being able
to speak to humans but hating them reminds me
of furious from the original httyd books.
With his hatred towards humans and the fact he
can talk to both humans and dragons, plus
he was the one who started the human dragon
war in the books if you didn’t know.
Smaug's scales are too tough for little dogo Toothless
Milton Hunter
Toothless’ blasts can obliterate stone, though?
Toothless literally broke off a bewilderbeasts tusk, at minimum 30 feet thick bone
@@SamotLS7 You just gonna forget the 500 other dragons bombarding the Bewilderbeast? Toothless didn't break that tusk on his own.
@@azazel_-or5pm true, but his blast can knock down the read death, a dragon well over 100x his size, so I feel he is still very potent
@Arwen good point. I’m not saying toothless will win in any way. I’m just saying he’d at least deal some damage before going out
I have been waiting for so long thank you!
Smoug's fire melts gold
Before I start let me just say I love Alteori and her content and I know this video is over a year old lol
I'm just going to say Toothless vs Smaug would go a bit differently than Alteori made it sound like it would go. Smaug is covered head to toe with incredibly durable fireproof scales, shown to be stronger than the strongest steels and reinforced shields, and we've seen his fire breathe hit structures with enough force to shatter stone towers and level city blocks from just the initial impact, before anything really starts burning. While Toothless has a very powerful plasma blast that hits with seemingly explosive force and could possibly be stronger than Smaugs flames, it's not necessarily something that would be able to noticeably harm Smaug, and Smaugs flame breathe covers a MUCH larger area and can be continued without stopping for several seconds at a time instead of just a single concentrated blast, making it a VERY big threat to Toothless because of the "aoe" potential. Toothless however in a movie setting, would win, and would have the perfect simple reason. Smaug has one fatal weak spot where a scale was torn off by a powerful black arrow made specifically for killing dragons, and Toothless supposedly never misses his shots(unless you count some of the HTTYD shows as cannon).
However, this assumes that if Smaug was in the HTTYD universe he would still have that scale torn off and exposed flesh underneath, although in a more realistic situation the black arrow would have never been used against him and his entire body would have basically no weaknesses. If this more realistic scenario was the case, then Toothless really doesn't stand much of a chance at all.
Another note I have about her video is that Smaug would be unlikely to care about other dragons, possibly taking more of a solitary lifestyle. He could even possibly end up as a sort of Galakrond parallel, living off of eating other smaller dragons as he grows in size and age.
Also, when Alteori says "again, it was kind of easy to kill Smaug", it was VERY hard to kill him. He was shot, hammered, and even completely submerged in searing hot molten gold and was barely harmed by any of those, completely ignoring basically everything other than the whole gold bath which did distress him and cause pain but didn't seem to have actually damaged or physically harmed him in any way. The reason Smaug died was simple: being very, very, very lucky. The one person prepared with the one weapon that could hurt him was in the one place he could have a good vantage point for one single shot to one small spot on Smaugs body. This is just pretty much just being incredibly lucky.
That’s long too bad I ain’t reading that
A knowledgeable person we have here. Very nice.
Dragon civil war? Sounds like the last How to Train Your Dragon books.
NEXT TIME ON WHAT IF
WHAT IF ANCALAGON THE BLACK WAS IN HTTYD
Ps I highly doubt that toothless would win against Smaug. Sure he has speed advantage but toothlesses race is about speed and haste and he can’t go fly for long (said in HTTYD 3). And not only that his plasma attack is strong yes but I highly doubt that it would destroy Smaug as in the movies his plasma attack doesn’t do much to the buildings, while Smaug fricking pushed through a whole stone wall and burned a whole city to ashes with no problem.
Smaug would've been the king of dragons cuz his larger and fire proof he hid himself with gold and he didn't feel anything while he was covered in melted gold
First size doesn't matter toothless beat red death and alpha dragon ( i forgot his name) which are both larger than smaug.
Second toothless is also fire proof
And he did fell gold on him
@@Nah_id_win_883 eh smaug has the most strongest dragon bite force and he can talk which we can understand what his saying but toothless his worse
That really doesn't matter if he can't catch him
@@Nah_id_win_883 just shut up and stop complaining of my comment
You started it
How to (not) piss off Smaug. #1 He IS the Alpha. #2, there is no #2 with Smaug. He only had 1 vulnerable spot on his left breast. Aside from that, Smaug has no weaknesses. Fire wouldn't hurt him either.
Wonder how he would if a changewing spewed acid on him
😂😂
Nothing, nothing can kill Smaug unless you have a black arrow
@@MrSoso1050 agreed. After all his armor is like ten fold shields, hes teeth are like swords, his claws spears, the shock of his tail a thunderbolt and his wings are Hurricanes!
@@rac1equalsbestgame853 would not hurt him as much and he would kill it
“TOOTHLESS?! MORE LIKE BALL-LESS!!”
Have you seen a movie called dragon heart?
Nope
YES! Love that movie.
@Lily Hilton ya, it's a awesome flick. Draco and Kevin Costner baby! And it looked pretty good for being like 20 years old.
@Lily Hilton Yeppy
'I am the last one'
Not to mention Smaug on the verge of dying jump and starting flying into the air get to thousands of feet in the air in seconds before dying and falling back down this is in the movie because that seems to be the one we are using
I would like to point out that Smaug wouldn't probably give a single shit about the force behind Toothless's blasts seeing how in the second hobbit he ran straight through a several meter wide stone wall like it was nothing. Also his fall from at least a kilometre did not create any additional visible wounds which is impressive seeing how his mass would give him a very large momentum.
I don't think the small dragon would defeat smaug!...
TOOTHLESS IS TOO YOUNG!!!
He murder a red death and he took down an alpha bewealderbeast that Murder another alpha bewealderbeast, so I think he will be just fine
Dont forget about smaugs scales
His wings aren't armoured
@@sboilerboy7882 he didnt fight those alone he had help
@@sboilerboy7882 But some Dragon Hunter ships took down toothless and in real life toothless could not kill the red death because it's like fight fire with fire
Bit awkward if smaug can't catch toothless and toothless can't kill smaug because of the scales that at this point I'm sure are made of minecraft bedrock.
He would just blow smaug up from the inside like the red death.
@@philipsyoutube6111 yeah I forgot about that
@philip TH-cam hmm I didn't really think about that but toothless has to wait until smaug opes he's mouth
@@philipsyoutube6111 smaug is smart tho
@@philipsyoutube6111 Smaug doesn't have that weakness
Smaug. Could probably burn toothless tail device and cause him to spiral out of control in the air.
Smaug: I'm fire.......I'm.....death
Toothless: hold my beer
Smaug: huh? What is it?
Toothless: *Fire Blast at Smaugs Chest.*
Smaug: You do Realise that my scales are fire Proof and are hard as iron right? If Liquid Gold and dwarfs bombs did no damage them how should your little fire crackers do anything to me?
@@draw2death421 actually Smaug would had filled pain because of how powerful toothless's fire is
@@Mr.Wetherilli liquid gold is
1 064°C that fire blast whould tickle at best
@@draw2death421 is he actually Fireproof because toothless took on a much bigger dragon that was bigger than Smaug
@@Mr.Wetherilli Those blasts did not pierce even the wings of red dead that are made from leather! Toothless only could weaken them
H- You can speak my language...?
S- I can do more than you expect. I'm not one of your pets, dragon-rider
H- You misunderstood our relation. I'm not a master, I'm just a guide, for vikings and dragons to live in harmony
S- Harmony?! Ha! What a waste of time. I am more than a servant for everyone. I am a king under with a treasure that everyone dreams with it. Everything that lives, live because I allow it. My scales are shields, my teeths are swords, my claws are spears, and my wings (starts flying) a hurricane. I am fire, I am... Death.
H- Then you are not so different from who I already defeated. If you think you can do everything without consequences... is because you never meet us (firesword)
S- Brave, brave, very brave and stupid. Tell me, Dragon-rider... How you choose to die? (The fight starts)
Toothless: Who the hell are you?
Smaug: I....am JOHN CENA 🎵🎶🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶
@@Mr.Wetherilli Toothless: Dafuq?
I am death oooooohohoh
@@madzdeleon2056 Toothless: I am the offspring of lightning AND death itself big boi!
@@treyrex5987 So why toothless would fight his Dad, Smaug is fire he is Death
Lol "What if Dark Eater Midir was in How to Train Your Dragon?"
One thing that wasn't factored in is Smag's armor (scales).
Regular arrows would just bounce off him. Black Arrows (which likely were either magical or had highly advanced scientific properties) were required to take him down and it took at least two in the same exact lethal spot to do the job. One black arrow created a hole and then the other finished the job (years later).
Smaug was also completely submerged in gold, holt molted gold. It should also be noted that Smaug had his mouth open when he was submerged, so he definitely swallowed some of it. A test in 2003 on a dead cow showed that pouring gold inside would rupture the internal organs, burn deep into the muscle and solidify in within 10 seconds. Gold has a melting point of 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
Considering we are dealing with gold made by Dwarves (and thus might have some magical or advanced scientific properties) and this gold remained a flowing river for some time, we can assume that it is probably much hotter. And yet, all it did was cause Smaug burning pain and he shook it off relatively easily and was completely fine afterward, having not negative effects on his eyes or the old wound from the black arrow.
So, Smaug might have at least some resistance to the special weaponry the other dragons are bringing to the fight. Not sure not long he would hold out, but I doubt he would be taken out immediately.
His wings aren't armoured
@@philipsyoutube6111 They might be. We can't say for sure since they were never attacked directly
Philip’s TH-cam well if his wings weren’t armors with his fire proof scales his wings would have just gone bye bye when he was submerged in gold.
but but but
smaug only dies to his black scale wich would be almost imposible for toothless to hit due to his explosions as they donot pierce
I think Drogon's flame is more magical in nature. I remember one of the mages that held Dany was wearing clothes that were flamed, and couldn't extinguish them and was initially confused that the fire wouldn't go out.
Smagu doesn't seem to have that nature, although he is quite magical in other ways.
I suppose you don't know what plasma is. Any fire is automatically plasma. It's just some fire are better quality plasma than some other fire
In case of smaug's fire breath, it's considered a good if not great quality plasma, rewatch the scene where he obliterate Dale. Fire that is not a good plasma will take a long time to blast stone, smaug fire breath easily destroy stones. Compared to toothless breath attack, i'd say they are roughly equal, although smaug breath attack cover far larger area
So Smaug replaces The Beast from the How To Train Your Dragon book series?
I can't help but imagine Smaug showing up in the video and throwing his speech:
"My teeth are swords, my claws are spears, my wings are a HURRICANE!!" before bursting out an absolute inferno around the place xd
Smaug in How to train your Dragon: Toothless and all the other dragons would be obliterated. How? Why? Badassery-based plot armor, bitches! XD (I'm a huge Smaug fan)
LOTR dragons are hypnotic, if not magical. And he was only easy to kill because of a weak spot, not every dragon would've had that in LOTR
Smaug: I am fire, I am death
Dragonborn: Fos Ro Dah
Normal people: smaug
Alteori: sMoG
Although you have made some good points you seemed to be a bit bias on Toothless's behalf. Toothless is awesome and powerful but you have defiantly over looked a lot of things on Smaug in favor of Toothless. Honestly I think they can stand a good chance against each other but you have missed a few important details when it would come to their fight.
1. Toothless would not only have to worry about himself but Hiccup as well. 2. Although Smaug was killed by a single arrow you need to keep in mind that it was no easy task due to the fact that the only reason that the arrow worked was because it was a black arrow and it also had to hit a spot where another black arrow had hit previously (so in actuality it took two black arrows) not to mention it was only by shear luck that Smaug was hit. Smaug can not be killed by normal human weapons, not even fazed. Unlike toothless who can be harmed and even killed. 3. Smuag has the dragon spell, which is basically a hypnotism thing. So not only would toothless have to worry about Smaug's physical advantage but also his dragon spell. This would also have an effect on Hiccup as well. 4. Toothless is handicapped, he has to rely on a prosthetic fin on his tail in order to fly and depending on what part of the Httyd timeline we are going off of he would need Hiccup to fly. So if Smaug gets rid of Hiccup or manages to break that prosthetic fin some how that can really screw up Toothless's chances. You have to keep in mind that Smaug is not only intelligent but also tend to be quite observant. Even when Bilbo was invisible with the ring Smaug still knew that he was there. Therefore Toothless's cloaking ability would be deemed ineffective, or at least have very little effect. 5. Smaug's fire maybe hotter than you think. If you look at the movie Smaug's fire is hot enough to melt mountains gold with in minutes. Gold begins to melt at 1,948°F(Note BEGINS to melt) in order for Smaug to melt enough gold to make that giant statue in minutes, his fire would have to be way pass the melting point of gold. Not to say that he could surpass Toothless's temperature but he might stand a better chance against it than you think.
I think it all basically chalks up to who does what first. As well as who gets lucky. All in all I would like to see you do another video on this after doing a bit more research on Smaug's behalf becuase you REALLY missed a lot of stuff.
toothless is literally faster than sound, and in httyd 3 he descovered a new ability and he can even fly on his own
Um he no longer needs to care about hiccup so that part of the argument went into dumpster
And his new tail can withstand literal lighting and plasma blasts of toothless so that argument also went into a dumpster
And the only tricky part that toothless needs to worry about is smaug spell but it only works on those who understand it like a wolf whod not be phased by that spell because smaug cant make Woolf understand what hes saying but toothless is a dragon like smaug but it's an interesting thing on if toothless can understand the dragon that was teleported from another universe and even if he does dragon language consists of roaring groaning screaming and other at least in the franchise so it whod take him a small amount of time to start his enchantment and if you say hut smaug doesnt need time and nooo he can easily put toothless under trans your wrong because dragons in middle eart are not made to control animals or dragons they are ment for men dwarfs elfs and etc beings with sentience in that world so it whod make no sense for melkor to give a dragon abilities to control other dragons because why whod he all of the dragons serve him either way so smaug magic is pretty much a speculation which if we took into account whod take more than a month of speculation on this topic because tolken never intended for all of this
@@georgiancountryball202 You have made good points, but it all depends on the point of time which is not specified here. The reason why I brought Hiccup into the argument is because that would be the most likely reason why this fight would have probably taken place. Because I honestly don't think there would be another reason to fight. I don't really see toothless going out of his way to defeat Smaug if Smaug is just chilling in his mountain. And I don't think Smaug would really care about whatever Toothless and the other dragons are doing as long as they stay away from his gold, which I suppose could be the reason to fight but from what I have gathered from the movies gold doesn't seem to be something that the dragons are after. So the most likely scenario is that Hiccup tried to investigate with Toothless and the other dragon riders and then shit hit fan because Smaug hates humans and Hiccup and the crew might have accidentally offended him. And again this would all depend on the point of time in the httyd universe. And since it's not specified here, (from what I had gathered at least I might just have to watch again) and the most likely scenario being that Toothleess is trying to protect Hiccup and possibly all of Berk from Smaug's wrath it could very well take place between the first and third movie. Edit: I just re watched and see what the fight is now and the point of time so the timeline would be a factor because she does seem to specify that he is a factor in one scenario which Smaug would most likely use as a target whether Toothless needs him to fly or not.
But if we are just talking a bout a very unlikely random fight here with Toothless is as he now and they are just fighting for the sake of fighting then toothless would defiantly have the advantage with speed and fire but Smaug's tough armor may make it difficult depending if we are going off movie or book. In the movie it took special kind of weapon to take him down even on his weak spot. In the book just a "lucky arrow" So if we go off the movie if Toothless's abilities are strong enough to get through that armor or Smaug is not fire proof enough (Which either can be a possibility it's not really specified how well Smaug can withstand other dragons force and fire) It's most likely that Smaug is just gonna tire of the battle and retreat since Smaug seems to be more lazy than Toothless. If we go off the book then yeah he's screwed.
smaug: *enters and trys to kill toothless*
Toothless: *cloaks himself and plamsa blast smaug till day brake*
Smaug has iron like scales that are fire proof and even liquid gold wich is 1 064°C Hot did nothing to them and dwarfs explosives did not do anything either how is toothless gonna do anything?
@@draw2death421 Using Plot armour and Bias
What if Smaug fought the red death or a bewilderbeast
Red Death would win against Smaug most likely because both can fly, are heavily fireproof, but one is a heavyweight with a heavy jaw and a bad temper. Plus The red death is marginally bigger, Smaug would have to try and be manoeuvrable in that or he would lose big time. Smaug V bewilderbeast would be more interesting due to the latter's inability to fly. But when you consider that the bewilderbeast is bigger, it would probably come down to one well placed smack or ice blast and squished red drake would be on the menu.
smaug vs red death ,smaug vs bewilderbeast those are worth watching tho
Smaug is the incarnate of Fire. He wins
Toothless might we more agile and swift but remember toothless got pinned down by humans in the first movie showing his vulnerability so one hit from Smaug might be a almost 1 shot
I see smaug having to fight toothless for dragon king
Smaug would end him with in 20 seconds
@@Uaveatz2 bull shit
Cause Toothless is a boss, he blew of the tusk a Dragon that was bigger than smaug, with one plasma blast, Smaug doesn't stand a chance, plus if necessary he'll tell the dragons to do what they want and help him out
Smaug doesn't stand a chance
@@flamerthevelcioraptorrevie1638 Smaug wins 100%. Stop liking toothless just because he’s the same color as Godzilla.
@@fatpigeon7422 what the fuck does Godzilla have to do with anything
Anyway no Toothless has fought 2 dragons that were 100x bigger than him and even blew off the damn tusk of one of them
Not to mention he can cloak himself with lightning and he's got powerful plasma blasts and is the king of Dragons
So how about you shut up
Smaug 0% and Toothless 100%
@@flamerthevelcioraptorrevie1638 I’m sure it has to do a lot with Godzilla lmao. Also Smaug wins out of sheer strength and intelligence. You only like toothless just because Alteori likes him, Smaug can only be killed by the black arrow which doesn’t even exist in the how to train your dragon universe.
Smaug 100%
Toothless 0% just overrated garbage
Smaug solo the entire verse
Can you do a POV Godzilla Jr from Godzilla vs Destoroyah🐉👹
Changewings can camouflage and they spit Acid instead of flames, so I wonder how Smaug would handle THAT
as well as that one dragon- DeathSong I believe it's called- that spits an amber that encases it's prey and EATS WHATEVER IT CATCHES
Likely Smaug would figure out quickly that fire melts the amber but would he still be lured in by the DeathSong's music.
(Two mated deathsongs are inhabiting an Island)
Male: Wife!
Female: Oh hello dear, have you got tonight's tea sorted?
Male: You could say that . . . (drags in mesmerised Smaug)
@@themockingdragon135 rofl
He's got fire he's bigger as well
Remember that smaug has scales like iron no arrow can Pierce it exept a black arrow and even that did not pierce him one shot only removed one of his scales so you really whould need 2 black arrows and dwarfs had Access to bombs and explosives yet they didint use them because smaugs scales whould prevent the bombs from doing any damage to him and toothlesses fire blast are basicly just little stronger bombs. I whould also want to add toothlesses fire blast was not strong enought to pierce threw red deadths leather wings he only made the leather weaker so if it could not pierce leather what makes you think it can pierce dragons scales that are fire proof and hard as metal?
Are we seriously saying that toothless can’t Peirce a material as strong as iron? He literally blew a whole threw a metal cage designed to contain dragons and one-shot buildings for breakfast in the 1st movie. Smaug is toast
Also his fire burns so hot it lit giant furnaces with one blast
Sometimes I wonder, does anybody thinking smaug is easy to defeat ever read the book or listen carefully to the movie? Because I don't think that.
what do u think abt toothless vs drogon got
Dragons in movies when they see a single arrow: Oh no we lose.
True that's why Dragon kids movies suck
Can you do a POV of the Skrill from HTTYD🐉
Im getting a sense of deja vu where we covered this before but due to my short attention span . . . Ooo a new video from alteori !
Can you do a POV of Godzilla Earth from Godzilla planet of the monsters🐉
What if the white fatalis in monster hunter is in how to to train your dragon universe
Could you do a video on the Dragons from Flight of Dragons?
Hopefully the skrill( aka the best dragon besides the screaming death)
@@neokantono4354 who was that from Flight of Dragons?
are we all forgetting that smaug can curse people with dragon spells and use all the dragons as puppets, he can make men go mad and fight things that aren't there
Smaug: *enters HTTYD*
Ghidorah: I was here first! So I’m the alpha! So you must obey me!
Smaug: I’m an alpha too.
Toothless: Same?
Ghidorah: IDC
Edit: wow thx for the likes and comments
Minh Duy Chu yes
If I had the chance I'd get someone even more OP than Ghidorah to take him home and spank his rear. The only problem is that nobody springs to mind.
Minh Duy Chu not destoroyah, Ghidorah is immune to the oxygen destroyer lol.
Minh Duy Chu how do you know what it constains or not? Mike literally stated it’s the oxygen destroyer. He’s immune to it.
Minh Duy Chu the Director himself has stated that it’s THE oxygen destroyer. Destoroyah most definitely couldn’t defeat MV Ghidorah. Alduin has a slight chance, but considering the shear size of Ghidorah and the resilience he had to 3 nuclear pulses that are hotter than the surface of the sun? He can take a beating. I don’t even know who super shenron is, but I’m kind of interested. Is he like a dragon too?
Can you do "What if Smaug met Eragon/What if Smaug met Draco from dragon's heart. I said this because I really love your channel.🎀
Umm... Im sorry to say this but the dragons from Middle Earth are extremely durable and intelligent, even more intelligent to most elves, dwarfs, and men. Smaug can literally catch toothless and rip him apart.
i mean... this is essentially: "What if Red Death from How to train your dragon 1 could speek, was arrogant, lazy and very greedy"
What if King Ghidorah was in how to train your dragon?
Want want to see that.
It already happend
Admon Buttress the alien lightning three headed dragon or kitty one dot cat dragon
@@Clarke308cuh how? I didn't see no trailer for it
@@legend1089 ghidora literally flys across the planet is a matter of minutes/hours. he aint slow. plus the cyclones.
The dragons spit hot flames.
What if Smaug fought Godzilla at the same size of Godzilla?
smaug is strong but Godzilla would literally kill him instantly. like one shot kill.
Well, not exactly one shot kill with 2019, Final Wars definitely, but either way, he would succeed.
Smaugs scales are as though as iron and fireproof but even that I doupt whould stop godzillas atomic breathe
@@draw2death421 correct smaugs scales were tough as iron and as you said. fire proof. but then there's nuclear fire which if it dosnt work a good bite will do it considering how much godzilla weighs
@epileptic zepra to me he isn't;-; he does not even look like a titan. HE look like a small version of Ghidorah.
If smaug actually tried to kill hiccups everything will just Completly vaporize smaug
I don't think she likes Smaug, he would smash toothless. Or just go after everyone on Berk to hurt him. Smaug would win either way.
"Tell me, Dragon Rider.....how do you choose to DIE?"
I say the Fire Drake of the north would win
Gandalf which is a mountain buster deemed Smaug a threat
Can you do a POV of the Triple Stryke from HTTYD🐉🦂
Yasssss
Plus y'all forget that samug himself restarts the forge chamber under the lonely mountain