As a surveyor, if he measured the centerline over to easement at the corners of property there is an iron rod with a cap on it which indicates the property line. Easy proof
In mass all property lines ether have 1 of 2 things, a steal rod with an orange tip or a block of stone roughly about 6" x 6". That's how as a landscaper I know that I'm cutting the correct lawn and not doing both neighbors to ether side. In this situation it seem the state doesn't even know there own laws lmao
...if you have a metal detector? Those rods are commonly sunk down, otherwise they are a mowing hazard. The ones I'm aware of are a few inches down, and completely undetectable by sight.
Once upon a time (less than 20 years) an Officer would be close to 45-50 years of age with over 20 years on to make Sergeant- if not 33 like mine was when I came on. He would have given whoever called on you a public ass chewing for wasting our time, apologized, and boogied onto an actual crime in progress. Kudos to the kind soul who brought out the water.
Having worked in a communications company construction and engineering department I can tell you this. If the church owns to the center of the road you are trespassing. It is still there property. The ROW is only for you to travel across that property, not stop, not protest. The 25’ ROW from the center line of the road is for maintenance, expansion, water runoff, and utilities. It has nothing to do with you as an individual who is traveling the road. If the state, county, or city owns a strip of land that the road is built on, that is public land and you can be on public property as long as the municipality has no ordinance against it.
You were in the 'right-of-way' and the police should have never let themselves get involved. The utility poles are the strongest indication of city/county 'rights' and the church has 'NO' say so in that area. I live in TN and a church is going in directly across from my house. Right now I've got all activity stopped due to the 'Ordinances'! It's ashamed that the Building Inspector doesn't know all the laws. My property is key to the church and without having access they have no where for the water to go. It's a swamp across the street. The right away is on my side and I have told the city they can dig all they want to supply the drainage. Won't work though because of utilities -- they need to go down on our property 200' to the creek. Ain't going to happen! People might say that I'm bitter -- yep! My belief is that I don't have to go to a 'funeral home to die' and I don't have to go to a 'church to be saved'! I am a ministers daughter!! Would love the compare notes with you!
You just made my morning!!! I'll be 60 the end of January and decided a few years ago the 'stand-my-ground'! Hugs Tim! I would wish you Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays -- I just don't believe in all the celebration.
id bet the opposite...he prob got a promotion..crooked fks...he wouldnt ever even get in trouble bc this dude was too scared to hold him to it...they were bluffing like crazy too
His job would never be in any danger. Tenneessee cops make the laws up as they go and no court has the balls to tell them they're wrong. The whole state is corrupt.
Take II, again I live in Roberson Co, Tn and I was arrested as I tried to re-enter the court house after a break. I was there only because I was given a subpoena to testify only. It was late and I had wife's car that she needed to go to work as she was on call. I told the bailiffs I needed to leave and they said no. They took my subpoena and put it in his pocket. I told him to give it back,and I needed to go. They asked my name as I walked out to my car to call my wife. She still didn't need the car yet so I went back in and as I put my keys,wallet,breath spray back in the same basket as before. I was alone and was not talking to anyone but was arrested for Disorderly Conduct. The Corrupt Pig that arrested me was Keith Reeves as he arrested me he dislocated my shoulder,and left black bruises underneath my are as he walked me strait through the courtroom. I did NOTHING at all to deserve this type of corruption placed on me.Robertson County, Tn is a Corrupt place to live and I have Hated cops every since.
Easements and Right-Of-Ways allow whomever is named in the document, the right to access or use the defined property for the purposes that will be defined in detail in the document. The land in question is still owned by the property owner, only the uses described in the document, describing the allowance, are available to the entity obtaining this ability to use the land. The Easement or Right-Of-Way documents will also be added to the Land Title, and are often accompanied by a survey plan, if the land in question is not easily defined by description, (ie: The outermost 20 feet of both sides of Road Plan XXX LL). Usually for Utilities, gas lines, etc.
White Privilege my friend had that been a black man the problem would have been solved in 3 second when's the black man the cops don't need to cite anything just get down on the ground put your hands up and lace your fingers walk Three Paces back turn around like they did that guy in Arizona and he was a white guy that white cop that shot him was probably pissed off that it wasn't a black man he shot his own white brother, oh by the way he walked
Every damn one of them need to do 20 minutes on the StairMaster like Will Smith said? In the first Men In Black movie connect fat cop got up in his face
He would've arrested me and then lost his qualified immunity....and the original person who said the public easement is for public employees not the public would also be fired from his job for falsehood of information.
Sidney Mantissa what you're saying is very true the line runs down the middle of your property I'm assuming if it were at the edge of your property near a road there is a legal easement between 12 and 35 ft that is for everyone the reason there is this law as for places that don't have a sidewalk the public needs a place to walk
No obligation to accept the ticket...Hew can sue the felons on the felony breach of his peace and terrorism they just committed with NO lawful authority.....
You need to go to the Tennessee Department of Transportation. They have detailed highway maps that show the Highway Right of Way. These are open to the public. Just go to the local DOT Office and ask for the particular section of highway. A map will usually cost a few dollars for a copy. There are also Monuments in the ground that are the physical evidence of this right of way. There are dozens per mile. Usually they are about 4" square concrete. Furthermore, the Tax Collectors office also has detailed maps that you can research yourself. These are called cadastral plats and are open to the public Next time get the proper maps. These maps are all prepared by Licensed Professional Surveyors. You can also look up the Deed that Transfers to the State or County the property and that deed will define the use. All Highway Rights of Way are public taxpayer property. State Highway numbers and ramps are not controlled by the County. Federal Highway numbers and ramps are not controlled or owned by the State. Do not trespass on Railroad right of way. They have their own police and they are federal and they will cite you.
Kind of surprising that first sheriff guy knew the back story to get someone to leave but not the measurements of the easement- I wasn’t here, I didn’t hear the story you gave. So Annoying. Those Sheriffs don’t care about your rights.
Utility poles are always on the edge of the public easement. This cop didn't want to write you a trespass citation because he knew it would be thrown out of court and you could sue the deputy personally as well as the sheriff's office and DA for violating your civil rights. Which you should still do, since you were told to go under the threat of arrest!
There was option 4! The officer goes into the church and tells them that you are not tresspassing so there’s nothing he can do about it. But he didn’t want to address option 4, did he?
In addition to my previous comment, it does not matter that the church maintains the easement. The fact remains that the easement belongs to the citizens of the county or municipality.
@@rentiap Wrong, the easement belongs to the city. The people have the right to use the easement as public property, but it does not belong to the people.
@@CaptainEIEIO You would be correct if the city owns the property where the easement is upon. But in most cases the easement is owned by private owners that the city has acquired the easement to put a street through or where a sidewalk is actually abutting a street and the land owner actually has fee simple ownership but has either granted or sold an easement. All public easements are granted for the use of the public. And the city does not own them. Nor do they have territorial jurisdiction over them.
@@CaptainEIEIO ARTICLE I SECTION 8 CLAUSE 17 and ARTICLE IV SECTION 3 CLAUSE 2 quote)To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;-(unquote quote)The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States;...(unquote [TH-cam will automatically delete posts with too many quotes] Those clauses are what's known as the property clauses or what is referring to as proprietary interest, which in turn gives proprietary power. essentially; The congress of the United States can only make rules and regulations for or that applies to that which it owns."my stuff, my turf, ergo my rules" "territory or other property belonging to the United States." To this day those clauses still stand. [[ Proprietary power-the exercise of proprietary rights-is the right of a property owner, and that is the sole basis of all written law as upon the subjects and employees of that territorial government which claims proprietary interest. The States of_________, being inseparable parts of United States, derive their just powers from (a) the places and waters, continental or insular, owned by The United States of America within the exterior boundaries of the States (depicted on the map) ["my stuff, my turf, ergo my rules"], and (b) those people who voluntarily choose to be beholden to States via employment or admission to U.S. citizenship [the 'consent of the governed' required per the 1st Organic Law, the Declaration]. ]] [And the consent of the governed completed when one registers to vote as a lowly citizen] That territory or other property belonging to the United States only consists of approximately 28% of the total lands that are between the boarders of Canada and Mexico, and the Pacific and Atlantic ocean and the Gulf of Mexico.. If one were to look at say, Texas. Only about 1.9% of the lands that are within the exterior boarders of Texas are territory or other property belonging to the United States, and is called "The State of Texas". And likewise the lands that are owned by or have been ceded or retro ceded to the United States is much larger in percentage of about 46%. The rest of the states are similar where only a percentage of the lands within the exterior boarders of the several states, is lands that are under the control of the congress to make needful rules and regulations. In Texas the 98.1 percent of the left over lands are privately owned lands and public and private easements that, the Congress has no right to make rules or regs upon and are not in the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. I've lived most of my life within the exterior boundaries of California, and I have never lived in the United States, nor have I lived in the State of California. and I am not a lowly, second class, voluntary servitude citizen/slave that is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. I have never lived on "territory or other property belonging to the United States", nor have I done what is mandated @ 2 stat 153 to become a lowly second class citizen. Therefore I do not qualify(nor would I ever want to) to be a lowly citizen of the United States. And as long as I stay out of, or off of territory or other property owned by or subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States of America. Then the Statutes, coded, rules, regs, public policies ETC. Of the act of 1871 and of the "States of_______________. do not apply to me. The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 still only applies to territory or other property owned by or subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States of America. And to the voluntary servitude second class citizens that are subject to the jurisdiction thereof the United States.
There is a "fourth" option here that should have been played out. Demand a written trespass warning. If the property owner was trespassing you their name would appear (or at least the name of the church). This carries no fine but provides written proof they illegally trespassed you from the right of way. And the cop would have to justify it in court when you file the lawsuit.
It always amazes me when a police officer will stand there and make up laws and lie straight to your face. Then use a threat of citation and or incarceration to bully a citizen into backing down.
Dave Smith.....Why don't you offer to do his time or pay his fine! What hobby were you refering to? 1st amendment? 5th amendment? 4th amendment? Or maybe his right to not be harrassed by police, witch is in their code law (misconduct by police concerning civil rights) You see......expressing your rights is not a hobby, it is un American to set by like some snowflake and give these rights away! You and people like you are the down fall to this country. Your stand is...awe...it's no big deal...just do what police say, even if they're in the wrong. That's what happens in a communist country Dave!!!!! If that's what YOU like....pack yo' sh*t and leave, while us proud Americans continue to stand up for our rights!!!!!!! Your a douche!
jennifer neal: And in addition to misunderstanding his point, you added both a big dose of nasty, and that very anti-First-Amendment and thus anti-American dismissal, “pack your sh*t and leave,” if you don’t agree with me! AND, you call yourself a “patriot” into the bargain! Please go back and read the Declaration but this time without assuming that what Jefferson is saying is in complete agreement with your utterly unfounded, silly, and personal opinions. Thank you. JWC
Jay Warren Clark, I believe I understood his comment perfectly. The gentleman was protesting and the police insisted he move from public property and he has every right to protest on public property...Dave insinuated that his hobby was insisting his rights be honored by officers! I think demanding your rights is NOT a hobby, but your duty as an American citizen. And the comment of "pack yo' sh*t and leave" was refering to any communist who believe we should all be sheep and just follow blindly while our rights were being trampled on! Especially when he was protesting against abortion, witch kills innocent lives, so yeah.....you can call me NASTY all ya want! I don't give a rats *ss who doesn't agree, in fact I like a good debate, but when ya tell someone to move on and get a new hobby, just because he is exercising his right to protest on PUBLIC property, that makes you a douche! The fact that I am willing to stand up for MY rights and others rights DOES make me a patriot!
I would have elected option #3. With everything you said you clearly established you were on Public Property. This could have been an expensive lesson for the Police Department that they would not forget for a long time.
He would have lost due to the area he was trying to argue about wasn't owned by the public. If it's not maintained by the city, county or state it's not public
Personally, I thought the Officer was professional in the way he handled the situation. A lot of officers would have just put the cuffs on you and took you to jail. One thing I believe I heard the officer say was that the church maintained the ground they were standing on. Maintaining the property doesn't mean that you OWN the property.
You took the easy way out when you could have fought and won this for everyone else that follows you down this path. You should have grown a set and sorted it out, piss poor.
I know one thing they could have done that to now News Patrick base in Oklahoma he Woulda have pucked out so quick because Patrick up now news he would have had them by their cut hair he came a Little Rock and they had the lock down the entire County Jail two guys with cameras and one white girl Ned lock down the hole in tire Pulaski County Jail I'm fucking believable I told now News Patrick the next time he come to Little Rock please tell me so I can get in on the fund
I’m the result of my mom being raped at 14 by a 22 yr old man that just arrived home from Vietnam in late 1971. Thankfully, Roe vs Wade wasn’t around until 1973. I was born in May 1972. My grandmother wanted to force my mom to get an illegal abortion at a small town doctor’s office in Cross Plains, Tennessee. Mom ran away from home to avoid this. She later returned when enough time had passed that she was too far along in her pregnancy that the corrupt “doctor” wouldn’t do the abortion. I was born at 26 weeks. Very premature weighing just over 2 pounds. I thank God for my life and for giving my mom strength at 14 yrs old to fight for my life. Later in life when I was 7ish, my mom was pistol whipped when I was a kid . This pistol whipping caused cysts that eventually caused an aneurysm that took her life in 2007. I miss you momma.
this video seems to be using the terms property lines, right-of-ways, and easements interchangeably. They are different things. you would need to actually find out where the property lines are at by getting the information from the county. since there is a road (assuming it is a public road) you are likely standing in a right of way there. you can't be trespassing in a right of way, that's why the right of way is there. doesn't matter if the property owner has to maintain that land up to the edge of the street, that's pretty standard, that doesn't make it their land.
Why the heck didn’t you challenge it!?! They’re just going to do this to the next person, that tries to stand up for what they believe. All this video shows is that they ran you off with no legal means to do and you pretty much bent over backwards for them. If you’re going to stand up and fight then fight it!
The only reason he didn't challenge is because he knew he would get arrested. Probably beat on the way and while being booked in, held for 2-3 weeks before seeing a judge, have extra charges of resisting arrest to explain the beating they gave him and nothing happen to the scum cops that were responsible.
This Is exactly the reason I don't attend a church on a regular basis. Why would ANY church to say the least, want him to leave when he's obviously fighting a great cause? If anything, the church should be supporting him 100% no doubt. If I recall, the bible I read says, and I quote, "thall shalt not kill". So this young man knows what he's doing and he's well within his rights to be there. He's 35 ft from the property line therefore, the charges would be dismissed anyways. Churches these days. Nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. Hypocrisy at it's finest...
I wish people would converse like adults instead of interrupting all the time. One person speaks and makes his case while the other person remains silent, then the other person does the same. It's not complicated. Besides, legal issues are NEVER settled on the side of the road, so this interaction was largely a waste of time. Take it to court. That's why it's there.
You could have taken the opportunity to show their lack of knowledge of the law and had a good story of the inside of their facility. Instead you caved. You get the fail.
Just another video of someone willing to stand up for their rights until they get told to leave......why even argue if you’re going to back down. You might as well just go at the start and save everyone the time. It only makes you look weak and gives them a power boost which just makes it harder for the next person.
Universal Citation: TN Code § 39-14-405 (2014) (a) A person commits criminal trespass if the person enters or remains on property, or any portion of property, without the consent of the owner. Consent may be inferred in the case of property that is used for commercial activity available to the general public or in the case of other property when the owner has communicated the owner's intent that the property be open to the general public. (b) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that: (1) A person entered or remained on property that the person reasonably believed to be property for which the owner's consent to enter had been granted; (2) The person's conduct did not substantially interfere with the owner's use of the property; and (3) The person immediately left the property upon request. (c) The defenses to prosecution set out in subsection (b) shall not be applicable to a person violating this section if the property owner posts the property with signs that are visible at all major points of ingress to the property being posted and the signs are reasonably likely to come to the attention of a person entering the property. (d) For purposes of this section, "enter" means intrusion of the entire body or when a person causes an unmanned aircraft to enter that portion of the airspace above the owner's land not regulated as navigable airspace by the federal aviation administration. (e) Entering or remaining on railroad or utility right-of-way property by an adjoining landowner for usual and customary activities of the type defined in §§ 1-3-105(2)(A)(i) and (ii), (B) and (C) and 43-1-113(a), (b)(1)(A) and (B), (b)(2) and (b)(3) shall not be considered trespass under this section. This subsection (e) shall not apply if the railroad or utility right-of-way owner, by a personal communication or posting at the site by someone with either actual authority or apparent authority to act for the railroad or utility right-of-way owner, has communicated to the adjoining landowner that the activity is not permitted. (f) (1) The secretary of state shall establish a no trespass public notice list identifying employers in this state who have requested established private property rights to be recognized and recorded against a trespasser under subsection (a). (2) To be included on the list, an employer shall provide to the secretary of state copies of appropriate documents that establish the employer's private property rights, including the address and legal description of the property to which it has legal control. An employer that records its private property rights shall pay a recording fee as determined by the secretary of state. (3) Beginning January 15, 2015, and every January 15 and July 15 thereafter, the secretary of state shall: (A) Make the list available to the public in the office of the secretary of state and publish the list on the web site maintained by the secretary of state; and (B) Distribute the no trespass public notice list to every law enforcement agency in this state. (4) Publication of the no trespass public notice list as prescribed in subdivision (f)(3) establishes a presumption that members of the general public have notice of the establishment of private property rights of all employers and properties listed. (5) Each law enforcement agency in this state shall maintain the most recent no trespass public notice list received from the secretary of state for its use in responding to complaints of criminal trespass under subsection (a). If a property is identified on the list, the responding law enforcement officer: (A) Is not required to further establish an employer's property rights before taking action against a person committing criminal trespass; and (B) May take appropriate and lawful action against a person committing criminal trespass to have such person leave the property or cease blocking ingress to or egress from the property. (6) If the employer's property is listed on the no trespass public notice list, an owner may seek an expedited injunction to restrain repeated or continuing trespass. (7) This subsection (f) shall not affect or limit any existing rights of an owner whose property is not included on the no trespass public notice list. (g) Criminal trespass is a Class C misdemeanor.
Clayton+ What you just asked went over 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the peoples little pea brain heads in the whole country. PS Clayton, you may want to check your spelling lest you look like the wrest of the pea brains in this country.
Yuppers. done on purpose maate. It always cracks me up seeing someone correcting someone else's spelling. And they misspell something also. I thought I'd take a crack at it.
These cops are breaking the law that they claim to uphold,but instead are ignoring the law and breaking the law them selves. SHAME ON THESE SO CALLED OFFICERS!!!
John Jones, if you are calling the Abolitionist a coward, you are wrong. The Abolitionist knows that he needs to establish the violation of his First Amendment right. He clearly did that. A citation or arrest would add nothing to the case. AbolishHumanAbortion.com
John Jones, Please upload your most recent encounter with law enforcement. Also, since you are asserting that the Abolitionist is a coward (and I presume you are not), please explain what you have done when faced with similar situations, and how your actions changed the mindset of the officers involved. We all want to learn from brave men like you.
He's a coward, if he truly cares about dead babies he would put his life on the line, but lines like, "that enough for my lawyer" let you know what it's really about. I absolutely support his right to do this, but I'm not fooled about what he's really after.
Right of way for larger streets can vary. The cop is wrong in stating it is 25 or 30 feet. In areas where there is a hillside or storm water structure to maintain , the right of way could bend around those areas. The state DOT has right of way maps for the larger roads. Also, individual survey plats shows the right of way line separating right of way from private property.
WHY DO PUT THESE WIMP VIDEOS UP. ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS SHOW THEY CAN VIOLATE YOUR RIGHTS AND YOU DID NOTHING. WHY SHOULD ANYONE DONATE TO YOU. YOU'RE NO PHILLIP TURNER.
Why are you so intent on standing on this churches "property"??? Get a life dude. Dont you have anything else better to do with your time? I guess not.
The purpose of these audits is to determine how people in authority (real or otherwise) respond to citizens exercising their legal rights. In this case, the church usurped authority over a public right of way by preventing a citizen from being there, and the police compounded the problem by enforcing laws that didn't exist. This type of thing needs to be shown. If not, then rights are eroded and never regained.
Dear citizens of the USA, do you notice that we don't even have the real streets anymore, imagine this. Almost anywhere you go in the town's there are no sidewalks? What the hell?
This guy was in the wrong. The easement isn't for the public it's for the city to widen roads and shit. Not public. The officer even sighted that. The property owner still owns the land. It just let's the city annex the land if they needed to. Like I get the whole "making sure governments are honest and not talking our rights" but come on buddy. Come on Buddy! Get a life you're only making things worse.
I dont know if U.S has this law, but most of the European countries has it. The freedom to roam, or "everyman's right", is the general public's right to access certain public or privately owned land for recreation and exercise. The right is sometimes called the right of public access to the wilderness or the "right to roam". That mean that you can be on a private property unless it is fenced, you can camp one night and you must leave the property next day and leave it as it was. you must take any garbage with you.
Yep, I mow that spot of grass between the sidewalk and the curb in my city and that's not my property. However according to the law I am the one responsible for the upkeep because it's in front of my house, but I still can't trespass anyone off of it.
I believe that statute says the centre of the Highway/Road, not the centre line, which are two different things. Because roads have multiple lanes, the markings on the road, may not display the physical centre, but merely the separation between the right hand and left hand lanes
Stand your ground and sue these cops for malpractice, never back down, but also let them do what they need to so it can be used against them. dont try to talk ur way out of it. just let them break the law, more power in your court that way
There seems to be some confusion regarding private property vs. public easement. Public easement is NOT ownership of the property. Public easement exists regardless of who owns it. It is not a 'one or the other' situation, it is commonly BOTH. A private party may own the land under a public sidewalk, but cannot forbid the public from walking on it. It is BOTH privately owned (taxes paid by the private owner), and accessible to the public. Trespass laws do not address public easement. To counter the simple reading of trespass law, you go to public easement case law, and explicit exemptions such as surveyors, etc. If the land in question is ACTUALLY NOT OWNED by a private party, you have a strong argument to put in front of a cop, have the plat map reference ready. If the land in question is actually owned privately (aside from the public easement), you need to have the easement case law on hand for the cop to check, otherwise you are going to lose arguing on the side of the road. If you rely on the cop doing your homework, be prepared to be cited or jailed. YOU have to have your documents ready to show.
As a surveyor, if he measured the centerline over to easement at the corners of property there is an iron rod with a cap on it which indicates the property line. Easy proof
In mass all property lines ether have 1 of 2 things, a steal rod with an orange tip or a block of stone roughly about 6" x 6". That's how as a landscaper I know that I'm cutting the correct lawn and not doing both neighbors to ether side. In this situation it seem the state doesn't even know there own laws lmao
...if you have a metal detector? Those rods are commonly sunk down, otherwise they are a mowing hazard. The ones I'm aware of are a few inches down, and completely undetectable by sight.
...“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
― Mark Twain
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Love it when cops only read the part of the law that supports their behavior.
"The property line has nothing to do with this" ? Did that fool really say that ? What is trespassing if it has nothing to do with property lines ?
He said the property lines don't matter when accusing you of trespassing? What an effin goofball
Once upon a time (less than 20 years) an Officer would be close to 45-50 years of age with over 20 years on to make Sergeant- if not 33 like mine was when I came on. He would have given whoever called on you a public ass chewing for wasting our time, apologized, and boogied onto an actual crime in progress.
Kudos to the kind soul who brought out the water.
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FTP^3
I want to believe cops were back then, buuuuuttt...I'm pretty sure LEOs have been tyrants for time put of mind.
Having worked in a communications company construction and engineering department I can tell you this. If the church owns to the center of the road you are trespassing. It is still there property. The ROW is only for you to travel across that property, not stop, not protest. The 25’ ROW from the center line of the road is for maintenance, expansion, water runoff, and utilities. It has nothing to do with you as an individual who is traveling the road. If the state, county, or city owns
a strip of land that the road is built on, that is public land and you can be on public property as long as the municipality has no ordinance against it.
I think that was a very mature way of handling this situation. Man is very intelligent and weighed out his options. Think smart not hard.
You were in the 'right-of-way' and the police should have never let themselves get involved. The utility poles are the strongest indication of city/county 'rights' and the church has 'NO' say so in that area.
I live in TN and a church is going in directly across from my house. Right now I've got all activity stopped due to the 'Ordinances'! It's ashamed that the Building Inspector doesn't know all the laws.
My property is key to the church and without having access they have no where for the water to go. It's a swamp across the street. The right away is on my side and I have told the city they can dig all they want to supply the drainage. Won't work though because of utilities -- they need to go down on our property 200' to the creek. Ain't going to happen!
People might say that I'm bitter -- yep! My belief is that I don't have to go to a 'funeral home to die' and I don't have to go to a 'church to be saved'! I am a ministers daughter!!
Would love the compare notes with you!
Karen East
Fuckin a, my kinda woman too
You just made my morning!!! I'll be 60 the end of January and decided a few years ago the 'stand-my-ground'! Hugs Tim! I would wish you Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays -- I just don't believe in all the celebration.
Sound like a real American milady... ;)
Karen East i love you and am backing u 100 percent. Hold your ground sweet one. Be strong. I agree with all u said. Same thoughts here.
Karen East fuck that church.
Are you sure of that Sergeant Fox because your job could depend on your answer
id bet the opposite...he prob got a promotion..crooked fks...he wouldnt ever even get in trouble bc this dude was too scared to hold him to it...they were bluffing like crazy too
Fox was nothing less than professional and buried this crybaby
Pussy making a cops life hard.
peekaboo2u fox aint shit but a pussy with a badge that likes to bluff
His job would never be in any danger. Tenneessee cops make the laws up as they go and no court has the balls to tell them they're wrong. The whole state is corrupt.
Take II, again I live in Roberson Co, Tn and I was arrested as I tried to re-enter the court house after a break. I was there only because I was given a subpoena to testify only. It was late and I had wife's car that she needed to go to work as she was on call. I told the bailiffs I needed to leave and they said no. They took my subpoena and put it in his pocket. I told him to give it back,and I needed to go. They asked my name as I walked out to my car to call my wife. She still didn't need the car yet so I went back in and as I put my keys,wallet,breath spray back in the same basket as before. I was alone and was not talking to anyone but was arrested for Disorderly Conduct. The Corrupt Pig that arrested me was Keith Reeves as he arrested me he dislocated my shoulder,and left black bruises underneath my are as he walked me strait through the courtroom. I did NOTHING at all to deserve this type of corruption placed on me.Robertson County, Tn is a Corrupt place to live and I have Hated cops every since.
Easements and Right-Of-Ways allow whomever is named in the document, the right to access or use the defined property for the purposes that will be defined in detail in the document. The land in question is still owned by the property owner, only the uses described in the document, describing the allowance, are available to the entity obtaining this ability to use the land. The Easement or Right-Of-Way documents will also be added to the Land Title, and are often accompanied by a survey plan, if the land in question is not easily defined by description, (ie: The outermost 20 feet of both sides of Road Plan XXX LL). Usually for Utilities, gas lines, etc.
Looks to me like Sgt. Fox is killing donuts.. 🤦
White Privilege my friend had that been a black man the problem would have been solved in 3 second when's the black man the cops don't need to cite anything just get down on the ground put your hands up and lace your fingers walk Three Paces back turn around like they did that guy in Arizona and he was a white guy that white cop that shot him was probably pissed off that it wasn't a black man he shot his own white brother, oh by the way he walked
Every damn one of them need to do 20 minutes on the StairMaster like Will Smith said? In the first Men In Black movie connect fat cop got up in his face
Great audit and educational. You’re spot on
Thanks for what you do great job with government employees who don't know the laws they are paid to uphold. I hope this matter has been resolved.
So, even if a citizen measures to the inch of public right of way... it’s still trespassing, because a cop said so. These tyrants are out of control.
Did Sergeant Fox get his bulletproof vest at Baby Gap
Jealous much?
@@msdaisy6949 stfu
He would've arrested me and then lost his qualified immunity....and the original person who said the public easement is for public employees not the public would also be fired from his job for falsehood of information.
Jas_ Woolf obstruction of justice wears badges of authority
The way I see it is your a bitch for not pressing the issue you should have took the ticket and sued the fuck out of them
Sidney Mantissa what you're saying is very true the line runs down the middle of your property I'm assuming if it were at the edge of your property near a road there is a legal easement between 12 and 35 ft that is for everyone the reason there is this law as for places that don't have a sidewalk the public needs a place to walk
soaringtractor
FTP^3
*moot* is the word your phone autocorrected to 'mute' for you. Blasted autocorrect.
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Thanks for standing up for rights and the law as it is written thank you so much sir you are a true american my hats off to you.
No guts to take the ticket and challenge it in court huh
Phill McRevis court court lol, Maritime admiralty law?
No obligation to accept the ticket...Hew can sue the felons on the felony breach of his peace and terrorism they just committed with NO lawful authority.....
He didn't have to challenge this in criminal court. The order to leave carried the same weight as being arrested for the purposes of civil court.
Just a battle over nothing
.. pick your battles. Applies here..
Phill McRevis you just suck
You need to go to the Tennessee Department of Transportation. They have detailed highway maps that show the Highway Right of Way. These are open to the public. Just go to the local DOT Office and ask for the particular section of highway. A map will usually cost a few dollars for a copy.
There are also Monuments in the ground that are the physical evidence of this right of way. There are dozens per mile. Usually they are about 4" square concrete.
Furthermore, the Tax Collectors office also has detailed maps that you can research yourself. These are called cadastral plats and are open to the public
Next time get the proper maps. These maps are all prepared by Licensed Professional Surveyors. You can also look up the Deed that Transfers to the State or County the property and that deed will define the use.
All Highway Rights of Way are public taxpayer property. State Highway numbers and ramps are not controlled by the County. Federal Highway numbers and ramps are not controlled or owned by the State.
Do not trespass on Railroad right of way. They have their own police and they are federal and they will cite you.
4:30 "I'd like to show you the property lines. Is that acceptable?"
Cop threatening arrest for trespassing: "That has nothing to do with me."
Kind of surprising that first sheriff guy knew the back story to get someone to leave but not the measurements of the easement- I wasn’t here, I didn’t hear the story you gave. So Annoying. Those Sheriffs don’t care about your rights.
Utility poles are always on the edge of the public easement. This cop didn't want to write you a trespass citation because he knew it would be thrown out of court and you could sue the deputy personally as well as the sheriff's office and DA for violating your civil rights. Which you should still do, since you were told to go under the threat of arrest!
never heard of a 35 foot easement, all the ones around here are ~8 feet, enough for an extra lane if they need it
There was option 4!
The officer goes into the church and tells them that you are not tresspassing so there’s nothing he can do about it.
But he didn’t want to address option 4, did he?
In addition to my previous comment, it does not matter that the church maintains the easement. The fact remains that the easement belongs to the citizens of the county or municipality.
Wrong,
The easement belongs to the people, and has nothing to do with the county or the municipality.
@@rentiap Wrong, the easement belongs to the city. The people have the right to use the easement as public property, but it does not belong to the people.
@@CaptainEIEIO You would be correct if the city owns the property where the easement is upon.
But in most cases the easement is owned by private owners that the city has acquired the easement to put a street through or where a sidewalk is actually abutting a street and the land owner actually has fee simple ownership but has either granted or sold an easement.
All public easements are granted for the use of the public. And the city does not own them. Nor do they have territorial jurisdiction over them.
@@CaptainEIEIO ARTICLE I SECTION 8 CLAUSE 17 and ARTICLE IV SECTION 3 CLAUSE 2
quote)To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;-(unquote
quote)The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States;...(unquote [TH-cam will automatically delete posts with too many quotes]
Those clauses are what's known as the property clauses or what is referring to as proprietary interest, which in turn gives proprietary power. essentially;
The congress of the United States can only make rules and regulations for or that applies to that which it owns."my stuff, my turf, ergo my rules" "territory or other property belonging to the United States."
To this day those clauses still stand.
[[ Proprietary power-the exercise of proprietary rights-is the right of a property owner, and that is the sole basis of all written law as upon the subjects and employees of that territorial government which claims proprietary interest.
The States of_________, being inseparable parts of United States, derive their just powers from
(a) the places and waters, continental or insular, owned by The United States of America within the exterior boundaries of the States (depicted on the map) ["my stuff, my turf, ergo my rules"], and
(b) those people who voluntarily choose to be beholden to States via employment or admission to U.S. citizenship [the 'consent of the governed' required per the 1st Organic Law, the Declaration]. ]] [And the consent of the governed completed when one registers to vote as a lowly citizen]
That territory or other property belonging to the United States only consists of approximately 28% of the total lands that are between the boarders of Canada and Mexico, and the Pacific and Atlantic ocean and the Gulf of Mexico..
If one were to look at say, Texas. Only about 1.9% of the lands that are within the exterior boarders of Texas are territory or other property belonging to the United States, and is called "The State of Texas". And likewise the lands that are owned by or have been ceded or retro ceded to the United States is much larger in percentage of about 46%.
The rest of the states are similar where only a percentage of the lands within the exterior boarders of the several states, is lands that are under the control of the congress to make needful rules and regulations.
In Texas the 98.1 percent of the left over lands are privately owned lands and public and private easements that, the Congress has no right to make rules or regs upon and are not in the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
I've lived most of my life within the exterior boundaries of California, and I have never lived in the United States, nor have I lived in the State of California. and I am not a lowly, second class, voluntary servitude citizen/slave that is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. I have never lived on "territory or other property belonging to the United States", nor have I done what is mandated @ 2 stat 153 to become a lowly second class citizen.
Therefore I do not qualify(nor would I ever want to) to be a lowly citizen of the United States. And as long as I stay out of, or off of territory or other property owned by or subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States of America. Then the Statutes, coded, rules, regs, public policies ETC. Of the act of 1871 and of the "States of_______________. do not apply to me.
The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 still only applies to territory or other property owned by or subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States of America.
And to the voluntary servitude second class citizens that are subject to the jurisdiction thereof the United States.
These are the people that are ment to serve and protect us.
Never in my life seen a protest sign that has changed my opinion on anything. I guess some people just have to much time on their hands.
(clapping sound)
stone tooth the idea is to get it into people’s minds that a certain belief presented by the signs, is popular
There is a "fourth" option here that should have been played out. Demand a written trespass warning. If the property owner was trespassing you their name would appear (or at least the name of the church). This carries no fine but provides written proof they illegally trespassed you from the right of way. And the cop would have to justify it in court when you file the lawsuit.
Intelligence is a rare commodity among law enforcement.
Travis Carter YOU got that right. !!
its a rare commodity among humans... period.
And "abolitionists"
zero effsgiven Says the human 😂
It always amazes me when a police officer will stand there and make up laws and lie straight to your face. Then use a threat of citation and or incarceration to bully a citizen into backing down.
You caved. You failed. They won. Get another hobby.
Dave Smith.....Why don't you offer to do his time or pay his fine! What hobby were you refering to? 1st amendment? 5th amendment? 4th amendment? Or maybe his right to not be harrassed by police, witch is in their code law (misconduct by police concerning civil rights) You see......expressing your rights is not a hobby, it is un American to set by like some snowflake and give these rights away! You and people like you are the down fall to this country. Your stand is...awe...it's no big deal...just do what police say, even if they're in the wrong. That's what happens in a communist country Dave!!!!! If that's what YOU like....pack yo' sh*t and leave, while us proud Americans continue to stand up for our rights!!!!!!! Your a douche!
jennifer neal:
You missed his point completely! Read first, then comment. JWC
jennifer neal and public roadways are not covered by any of those amendments
jennifer neal:
And in addition to misunderstanding his point, you added both a big dose of nasty, and that very anti-First-Amendment and thus anti-American dismissal, “pack your sh*t and leave,” if you don’t agree with me! AND, you call yourself a “patriot” into the bargain!
Please go back and read the Declaration but this time without assuming that what Jefferson is saying is in complete agreement with your utterly unfounded, silly, and personal opinions. Thank you. JWC
Jay Warren Clark, I believe I understood his comment perfectly. The gentleman was protesting and the police insisted he move from public property and he has every right to protest on public property...Dave insinuated that his hobby was insisting his rights be honored by officers! I think demanding your rights is NOT a hobby, but your duty as an American citizen. And the comment of "pack yo' sh*t and leave" was refering to any communist who believe we should all be sheep and just follow blindly while our rights were being trampled on! Especially when he was protesting against abortion, witch kills innocent lives, so yeah.....you can call me NASTY all ya want! I don't give a rats *ss who doesn't agree, in fact I like a good debate, but when ya tell someone to move on and get a new hobby, just because he is exercising his right to protest on PUBLIC property, that makes you a douche! The fact that I am willing to stand up for MY rights and others rights DOES make me a patriot!
I would have elected option #3. With everything you said you clearly established you were on Public Property. This could have been an expensive lesson for the Police Department that they would not forget for a long time.
You have FAILED & you should had pushed it and gone to court...
He would have lost due to the area he was trying to argue about wasn't owned by the public. If it's not maintained by the city, county or state it's not public
Personally, I thought the Officer was professional in the way he handled the situation. A lot of officers would have just put the cuffs on you and took you to jail. One thing I believe I heard the officer say was that the church maintained the ground they were standing on. Maintaining the property doesn't mean that you OWN the property.
You took the easy way out when you could have fought and won this for everyone else that follows you down this path. You should have grown a set and sorted it out, piss poor.
I know one thing they could have done that to now News Patrick base in Oklahoma he Woulda have pucked out so quick because Patrick up now news he would have had them by their cut hair he came a Little Rock and they had the lock down the entire County Jail two guys with cameras and one white girl Ned lock down the hole in tire Pulaski County Jail I'm fucking believable I told now News Patrick the next time he come to Little Rock please tell me so I can get in on the fund
So what aircraft flew over at 2:00?
He's read it to you twice. And it was wrong twice. NOW .......if he reads it a third time it might be still wrong.
I’m the result of my mom being raped at 14 by a 22 yr old man that just arrived home from Vietnam in late 1971.
Thankfully, Roe vs Wade wasn’t around until 1973. I was born in May 1972.
My grandmother wanted to force my mom to get an illegal abortion at a small town doctor’s office in Cross Plains, Tennessee. Mom ran away from home to avoid this. She later returned when enough time had passed that she was too far along in her pregnancy that the corrupt “doctor” wouldn’t do the abortion. I was born at 26 weeks. Very premature weighing just over 2 pounds. I thank God for my life and for giving my mom strength at 14 yrs old to fight for my life.
Later in life when I was 7ish, my mom was pistol whipped when I was a kid . This pistol whipping caused cysts that eventually caused an aneurysm that took her life in 2007.
I miss you momma.
So sad Law Enforcement does not know Laws they are sworn to protect.
With the amount and type of laws, How can YOU reasonable expect an officer to be fully conversant with all those laws when LAWYERS aren't?
“Officer, I will cease my free speech activity out of fear of arrest.”
I hate when you post something and dont come back with the final outcome or update!!!!
Pretty sure it's because the settlements come attached to non disclosure agreements.
@@st0n3p0ny You are assuming they prevailed.
great job of backing down . if you are not man enough to stand up then just stay home and don't make a fool of yourself .
Gp H I think it’s cause he didn’t have a tape measurer on him at this time .... but I kinda see you’re point. You may or may not be right bro
While you sit in the comfort of your armchair doing nothing for the least of these my brethren.
Repent!
utility pole is boundary right of way
how am i just seeing your channel now? :) awesome job ;)
They really need firing! Acting as they do you know they are doing something shady! Not knowing the law,the can not be trusted!
Hahaha...he quoted the law, gave the guy his options...looks like the only one not knowing the law was the guy shooting the video ahahahaha
No balls. But I like how the conversation was very respectful on both ends. Good job for that!
You failed badly why did you not ask for his supervisor?
What exactly is the gov. right of way for if it is not public?
this video seems to be using the terms property lines, right-of-ways, and easements interchangeably. They are different things. you would need to actually find out where the property lines are at by getting the information from the county. since there is a road (assuming it is a public road) you are likely standing in a right of way there. you can't be trespassing in a right of way, that's why the right of way is there. doesn't matter if the property owner has to maintain that land up to the edge of the street, that's pretty standard, that doesn't make it their land.
FOXX HELD HIS COOL,
Why the heck didn’t you challenge it!?! They’re just going to do this to the next person, that tries to stand up for what they believe.
All this video shows is that they ran you off with no legal means to do and you pretty much bent over backwards for them. If you’re going to stand up and fight then fight it!
Actually he has a case now.....
it's called being wrong...and he knew he needed to leave and that his instigating and videos weren't intimidating anyone.
The only reason he didn't challenge is because he knew he would get arrested. Probably beat on the way and while being booked in, held for 2-3 weeks before seeing a judge, have extra charges of resisting arrest to explain the beating they gave him and nothing happen to the scum cops that were responsible.
James Barnes in Tennessee his case is worthless.
@@elijahbaird3950 -- bullshit.
take them to court sue for false info simple
Should have let them arrest U, just violates more of Ur rights. That's more money..
Very correct but never do this shit on a Friday. You'll be sittin til Monday when you see the judge
This Is exactly the reason I don't attend a church on a regular basis. Why would ANY church to say the least, want him to leave when he's obviously fighting a great cause? If anything, the church should be supporting him 100% no doubt. If I recall, the bible I read says, and I quote, "thall shalt not kill". So this young man knows what he's doing and he's well within his rights to be there. He's 35 ft from the property line therefore, the charges would be dismissed anyways. Churches these days. Nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. Hypocrisy at it's finest...
The lack of knowledge these days is amazing
He just wanted a argument and fight with the police yet he still lost
The private property isnt yours.
Quit being a speedbump man. Those people are there to help.
They will help you right to jail for being on public property exercising a first ammendment secured right.
The property isn't the cop's, either.
I wish people would converse like adults instead of interrupting all the time. One person speaks and makes his case while the other person remains silent, then the other person does the same. It's not complicated.
Besides, legal issues are NEVER settled on the side of the road, so this interaction was largely a waste of time. Take it to court. That's why it's there.
he wants you to listen but wont listen to you
That's a liberal
In that case some ought to inform that church that someone has left telephone/power cables on their property
he doesn't wantr to listen to you= because he is always right
And, on a completely different note, that sounded like a big radial engine plane flying overhead at 2:00. Cool.
So the cops won? They got you to leave and got what they wanted. Ok great video.
You could have taken the opportunity to show their lack of knowledge of the law and had a good story of the inside of their facility. Instead you caved. You get the fail.
What a shock. Cops acting like thugs...
how does the property line not effect a trespass ? you have to prove what is private and public property.
Just another video of someone willing to stand up for their rights until they get told to leave......why even argue if you’re going to back down. You might as well just go at the start and save everyone the time. It only makes you look weak and gives them a power boost which just makes it harder for the next person.
EXaCTLY correct - wimp wanting money from us
I applaud these guys right to keep the cops correct, but this taking up their time to make a point is a pain.
Universal Citation: TN Code § 39-14-405 (2014)
(a) A person commits criminal trespass if the person enters or remains on property, or any portion of property, without the consent of the owner. Consent may be inferred in the case of property that is used for commercial activity available to the general public or in the case of other property when the owner has communicated the owner's intent that the property be open to the general public.
(b) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) A person entered or remained on property that the person reasonably believed to be property for which the owner's consent to enter had been granted;
(2) The person's conduct did not substantially interfere with the owner's use of the property; and
(3) The person immediately left the property upon request.
(c) The defenses to prosecution set out in subsection (b) shall not be applicable to a person violating this section if the property owner posts the property with signs that are visible at all major points of ingress to the property being posted and the signs are reasonably likely to come to the attention of a person entering the property.
(d) For purposes of this section, "enter" means intrusion of the entire body or when a person causes an unmanned aircraft to enter that portion of the airspace above the owner's land not regulated as navigable airspace by the federal aviation administration.
(e) Entering or remaining on railroad or utility right-of-way property by an adjoining landowner for usual and customary activities of the type defined in §§ 1-3-105(2)(A)(i) and (ii), (B) and (C) and 43-1-113(a), (b)(1)(A) and (B), (b)(2) and (b)(3) shall not be considered trespass under this section. This subsection (e) shall not apply if the railroad or utility right-of-way owner, by a personal communication or posting at the site by someone with either actual authority or apparent authority to act for the railroad or utility right-of-way owner, has communicated to the adjoining landowner that the activity is not permitted.
(f) (1) The secretary of state shall establish a no trespass public notice list identifying employers in this state who have requested established private property rights to be recognized and recorded against a trespasser under subsection (a).
(2) To be included on the list, an employer shall provide to the secretary of state copies of appropriate documents that establish the employer's private property rights, including the address and legal description of the property to which it has legal control. An employer that records its private property rights shall pay a recording fee as determined by the secretary of state.
(3) Beginning January 15, 2015, and every January 15 and July 15 thereafter, the secretary of state shall:
(A) Make the list available to the public in the office of the secretary of state and publish the list on the web site maintained by the secretary of state; and
(B) Distribute the no trespass public notice list to every law enforcement agency in this state.
(4) Publication of the no trespass public notice list as prescribed in subdivision (f)(3) establishes a presumption that members of the general public have notice of the establishment of private property rights of all employers and properties listed.
(5) Each law enforcement agency in this state shall maintain the most recent no trespass public notice list received from the secretary of state for its use in responding to complaints of criminal trespass under subsection (a). If a property is identified on the list, the responding law enforcement officer:
(A) Is not required to further establish an employer's property rights before taking action against a person committing criminal trespass; and
(B) May take appropriate and lawful action against a person committing criminal trespass to have such person leave the property or cease blocking ingress to or egress from the property.
(6) If the employer's property is listed on the no trespass public notice list, an owner may seek an expedited injunction to restrain repeated or continuing trespass.
(7) This subsection (f) shall not affect or limit any existing rights of an owner whose property is not included on the no trespass public notice list.
(g) Criminal trespass is a Class C misdemeanor.
Zomak blah ok what douse the word person mine in a law book
Clayton+
What you just asked went over 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the peoples little pea brain heads in the whole country.
PS Clayton, you may want to check your spelling lest you look like the wrest of the pea brains in this country.
Wrest...while shaming someone else for THEIR SPELLING!
Yuppers. done on purpose maate.
It always cracks me up seeing someone correcting someone else's spelling. And they misspell something also.
I thought I'd take a crack at it.
"How you doing boy" lol😆😆🤣. That child watched way too many movies
What's this video about ❓
Why are the police there ?
What's the argument about ❓
The abortion clinic they are religious protesting called tge cops to have them moved from public places because it was bad for their sick agendas
I like how the cop says that the property line doesn't matter and contradicts the LAW that he just stated.
The property line doesnt matter??? Are you ******* kidding!?!?!?
Was there a lawsuit? I don’t see anything in the notes
These cops are breaking the law that they claim to uphold,but instead are ignoring the law and breaking the law them selves. SHAME ON THESE SO CALLED OFFICERS!!!
Tyrant, Bully, has a badge and does whatever he wants... Sad
imagine spending your time bothering cops about property lines that can't even actually be confirmed unless there's an accurate survey lmao
So you chose to take the cowards way out. Thumbs down.
John Jones, if you are calling the Abolitionist a coward, you are wrong. The Abolitionist knows that he needs to establish the violation of his First Amendment right. He clearly did that. A citation or arrest would add nothing to the case.
AbolishHumanAbortion.com
John Jones got to pick you battles ,he could be sueing them in court.
John Jones, Please upload your most recent encounter with law enforcement. Also, since you are asserting that the Abolitionist is a coward (and I presume you are not), please explain what you have done when faced with similar situations, and how your actions changed the mindset of the officers involved. We all want to learn from brave men like you.
He's a coward, if he truly cares about dead babies he would put his life on the line, but lines like, "that enough for my lawyer" let you know what it's really about. I absolutely support his right to do this, but I'm not fooled about what he's really after.
Ok. And did you resolve this?
Hmm 🤔....You really did a terrible job here. SMH 😞.
Right of way for larger streets can vary. The cop is wrong in stating it is 25 or 30 feet. In areas where there is a hillside or storm water structure to maintain , the right of way could bend around those areas. The state DOT has right of way maps for the larger roads. Also, individual survey plats shows the right of way line separating right of way from private property.
WHY DO PUT THESE WIMP VIDEOS UP. ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS SHOW THEY CAN VIOLATE YOUR RIGHTS AND YOU DID NOTHING. WHY SHOULD ANYONE DONATE TO YOU. YOU'RE NO PHILLIP TURNER.
The first cop actually said that (the Government, County and State have a 25 to 30 foot right away, NOT THE PUBLIC)
Apparently this assclown don't know what a easement means.
Why are you so intent on standing on this churches "property"??? Get a life dude. Dont you have anything else better to do with your time? I guess not.
The purpose of these audits is to determine how people in authority (real or otherwise) respond to citizens exercising their legal rights. In this case, the church usurped authority over a public right of way by preventing a citizen from being there, and the police compounded the problem by enforcing laws that didn't exist. This type of thing needs to be shown. If not, then rights are eroded and never regained.
@@95bochamp I am not a fan of alot of these audits but you are 100% right on the cause and need for them.
what is your purpous there?
as im watching this, i can hear officer Cruzo ( pink panther) saying his famous words " i aaammm an officeeerrrrr ovvv theeee lewwwa" .
Dear citizens of the USA, do you notice that we don't even have the real streets anymore, imagine this. Almost anywhere you go in the town's there are no sidewalks? What the hell?
This guy was in the wrong. The easement isn't for the public it's for the city to widen roads and shit. Not public. The officer even sighted that. The property owner still owns the land. It just let's the city annex the land if they needed to. Like I get the whole "making sure governments are honest and not talking our rights" but come on buddy. Come on Buddy! Get a life you're only making things worse.
Can anyone tell me what tool he used to see the easement on a map? I would really like to use this to see my local easements
I believe you can find that stuff out online.
Send the dummy to jail
You can be in the area from the telephone poles to the road. It doesn't matter if they mow it or not.
"Illegal" trespassing, as opposed to legal trespassing?
what is the reason for the intrusion, and has the owners of the property complained?
what was the reason for contact?
I dont know if U.S has this law, but most of the European countries has it.
The freedom to roam, or "everyman's right", is the general public's right to access certain public or privately owned land for recreation and exercise. The right is sometimes called the right of public access to the wilderness or the "right to roam".
That mean that you can be on a private property unless it is fenced, you can camp one night and you must leave the property next day and leave it as it was. you must take any garbage with you.
Just because someone maintains an area doesn't automatically mean that they own it SGT Fox.
Yep, I mow that spot of grass between the sidewalk and the curb in my city and that's not my property. However according to the law I am the one responsible for the upkeep because it's in front of my house, but I still can't trespass anyone off of it.
I believe that statute says the centre of the Highway/Road, not the centre line, which are two different things. Because roads have multiple lanes, the markings on the road, may not display the physical centre, but merely the separation between the right hand and left hand lanes
Stand your ground and sue these cops for malpractice, never back down, but also let them do what they need to so it can be used against them. dont try to talk ur way out of it. just let them break the law, more power in your court that way
There seems to be some confusion regarding private property vs. public easement. Public easement is NOT ownership of the property. Public easement exists regardless of who owns it. It is not a 'one or the other' situation, it is commonly BOTH. A private party may own the land under a public sidewalk, but cannot forbid the public from walking on it. It is BOTH privately owned (taxes paid by the private owner), and accessible to the public.
Trespass laws do not address public easement. To counter the simple reading of trespass law, you go to public easement case law, and explicit exemptions such as surveyors, etc.
If the land in question is ACTUALLY NOT OWNED by a private party, you have a strong argument to put in front of a cop, have the plat map reference ready.
If the land in question is actually owned privately (aside from the public easement), you need to have the easement case law on hand for the cop to check, otherwise you are going to lose arguing on the side of the road. If you rely on the cop doing your homework, be prepared to be cited or jailed. YOU have to have your documents ready to show.