Speaking of raffle birds. Came across another vid that copied your Master feeding, Master racing content. th-cam.com/video/p4OJU7yVaNo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wns8wj74WWhRnfYS
I had a hen on multiple occasion lay an egg in the basket and be my first bird back in the top 5 birds in the combine. Over 400 miles races. Additionally I had one come home and laid an egg she was the second place bird at out 500. 🤷🏽♂️
be honest as much as they all do have benefits for an animals if their been farmed on large scale. Most if not all virkon and Bio Xv products are very similar and contain some pretty strong chlorides, acids and limonenes. which as much as they are of course very diluted , I still personally think and our company chemist agrees do too much harm to the gut biome of healthy animals such as your pigeons. On large scale where proper stockmanship is difficult due to time and scale I can really see the plus points. But in the antibiotic free smaller scale environment such as your amazing loft I personally think you will hurt more than it helps. I farmed for first 10ish years of my working life and have about 4 years in manufacturing the products I used to use, but at the end of the day it is really just my opinion, but I mean I wouldn't ever drink it so I try to treat my pigeons as well as I do myself. Massive thanks for rest of your videos and guides helped me so so much in the pigeon sport. @@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons
Most Virkon and bio vx products are pretty similar and contain some really strong acids, chlorides and limonenes. In large scale industrial farming where proper stockmanship is difficult due to time and scale, I can genuinely see the benefits. But in a smaller scale environment with quality, anti-biotic free, pigeons such as your amazing loft, I think the products do more harm than good to the gut biome. Our company chemist agrees. I worked in farming for about 10years and in manufacturing for 4 and in honesty, I think it’s as simple as, I wouldn’t drink it no matter how dilute it was so I wouldn’t give it to my pigeons. This is only my opinion and you’re free to disagree, I mean who am I to say? Great channel great advice thanks for all your help made so so much difference to my loft. @@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons
Most Virkon and bio vx products are pretty similar and contain some really strong acids, chlorides and limonenes. In large scale industrial farming where proper stockmanship is difficult due to time and scale, I can genuinely see the benefits. But in a smaller scale environment with quality, anti-biotic free, pigeons such as your amazing loft, I think the products do more harm than good to the gut biome. Our company chemist agrees. I worked in farming for about 10years and in manufacturing for 4 and in honesty, I think it’s as simple as, I wouldn’t drink it no matter how dilute it was so I wouldn’t give it to my pigeons. This is only my opinion and you’re free to disagree, I mean who am I to say? Great channel great advice thanks for all your help made so so much difference to my loft. @@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons
Thank you ... Question - what does feeding look like on the last day for a 750 km flight (putting on on Thursday and flying on Saturday)? I know that the food is rich - do you feed twice a day as much as possible, or with some restrictions?
I will feed twice and all they want if I have time for a long flight the day of shipping. I use mostly fat seeds and mix Versela Laga Traditional Sneaky Mix with Versela Laga Energy.
Thanks . In the upcoming season, due to limited time, I will try your method of feeding and training for females. We have quite a demanding plan - 14 flights, including: 4 x 530 km and 2 x 750 km. In previous years, my pigeons (except the yearlings) participated in all flights every week. We'll see for how long this new system will allow, because I will not hide that it will be a small "revolution" for my pigeons :) ...
Hi Frank. On average how many birds are you competing against during the season..? And how many flyers in your federation & club..? Enjoy your videos.. 🙏
Hello Steven, My combine has dropped drastically the last several years which is sad. We went from many to 65 to 75 lofts and close to 1000 birds now if we are lucky. Long for the days when I could compete against thousands of pigeons
They are an old family and Sion died a million years ago. It is easier to find a long distance pigeon that is very successful today and winning for many fanciers now. Your odds are much better.
although i wasn't able to watch live, as always a very informative video hopefully i can put some of the ideas into practice. when you talking about not loft flying because of the hawks. i too had a horrible last yb season. i had a small 8 bird team and lost all but three at various times. do you think that just bringing them on training tosses gives ybs a better chance of survival from attacks? keep up the videos
Once my young birds are training I no longer loft fly. You increase losses due to hawks by loft flying. My old birds are not even let out to fly once during the entire season. I go right from the loft to training but start at 1/4 mile and the birds are nice and light due to feeding. Loft flying early in the season will lead to hawks killing some of the pigeons.
I do not pair the birds before racing. I feel it may be beneficial to do this and the hens are less likely to mate to each other if they had a baby right before the season starts. I keep it very simple and just go right into racing.
Hi frank super video as always i have a few hens i didn't race in 2 years would they be alright to get back racing this season or would i have to give a lot of training on the road first to get them homing
It is difficult to bring pigeons back to racing after two years off. It can be done and hens will certainly be easier. Start slow and give plenty of training before the races. If they have been loft flying all this time they will not need any extra training.
Many use the yellow drops on the grain. It works well on the grain. I would suggest two drop per pigeon if you put on the grain then feed to the pigeons immediately.
That is a mistake. When my birds arrive they can go to water and drink all they want if they like. They are dehydrated after a long flight and must drink upon arrival. Do not listen the the 'old wives tales". Let them drink.
I am sure there are a few good ones down from the Sion birds. Sion died so many years ago you are better finding birds that are winning long distance races today. Your odds are increased.
Excellent. At about the hour mark you mentioned only training a team out to 18 miles about one week before the first race. Were those old birds that had previously been down the road or previously raced, or did they literally have only that short experience to 18 miles out prior to racing?
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Have you ever seen young birds go to races with little experience at distance and still do well? Is the body weight a bigger factor than experience?
Funny that you say that. I have seen amazing performances with pigeons with less training and perfect body weight. The birds need enough experience to home but they can pull away with perfect body weight. Young birds need some mixing and breaking but after that feeding is a big part.
Much depends on the body weight. Watch my Educating Young Birds video and with old birds if you get them out to 50 miles before the first race it is plenty.
Yes. I use a clean needle each time I place it into the vaccine and will keep a vaccine for a month or more after opening. I always keep the vaccine cold and inject the birds with cold vaccine. Pox vaccine is different because I mix small portions. See my Vaccine Videos
I do not flock treat for respiratory. If a bird gets a problem I will inject with LA 200 which I buy at Tractor Supply. 0.4 ml behind the neck one dose only usually cures one eyed colds, rattles or any respiratory problem. Buy the smallest bottle and give slightly less than 1/2 of a ml
I use the natural products that help keep the birds healthy. I will treat a sick bird individually but do not flock treat. If the pigeons do not look right I will rest them for several days. I have had an occasional race team bird get sick and I will treat it and leave on the team. Check this out my natural program: th-cam.com/video/aLjysaQflgM/w-d-xo.html
Another good video frank thanks for taking the time out of your day to keep us all watching 👍
Makes it fun to have so many watching.
You are best tks
So nice of you to say
You hit my heart the neighbor with four kids LOL. Thank you for all this great advice.
You are so welcome! Hope I helped a bit!
Hi mr frank good stuff
Hey, thanks
Learned a bunch like always my friend.
Great information really appreciate it!
I keep missing the live feed lol. Great video Frank. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge.
Nice you can watch later. Happy you enjoyed.
Speaking of raffle birds. Came across another vid that copied your Master feeding, Master racing content. th-cam.com/video/p4OJU7yVaNo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wns8wj74WWhRnfYS
Another great video,thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
I had a hen on multiple occasion lay an egg in the basket and be my first bird back in the top 5 birds in the combine. Over 400 miles races. Additionally I had one come home and laid an egg she was the second place bird at out 500. 🤷🏽♂️
I have seen this also but it is rare. Great job.
Thank you for the great advice. I missed the live due to work but I love watching all your videos.
Thanks for watching!
Frank I really enjoyed the video on feeding and the one on selection.
Happy you enjoyed. I am having fun!
another great video frank i’m learning every day
Appreciate you watching! Will be fun to have you racing
Hi Frank, great video once again, honest and enjoyable , keep up the good work, Howard from Preston UK
Thank you!
Good job Frank
I really appreciate your videos Frank, thank you!
You are very welcome
Good stuff, Frank.
Good advice again - thanks!!
Sour crop. Virkon S in drinking water and it's sorted.... Half a teaspoon to a gallon water
Great point. You are right.
I make Virkon S in the UK and personally I wouldn't use it in my pigeons water.
The rest of your advice has helped me a lot thanks Frank.
What do you think about Virkon H2O?
be honest as much as they all do have benefits for an animals if their been farmed on large scale.
Most if not all virkon and Bio Xv products are very similar and contain some pretty strong chlorides, acids and limonenes.
which as much as they are of course very diluted , I still personally think and our company chemist agrees do too much harm to the gut biome of healthy animals such as your pigeons.
On large scale where proper stockmanship is difficult due to time and scale I can really see the plus points. But in the antibiotic free smaller scale environment such as your amazing loft I personally think you will hurt more than it helps.
I farmed for first 10ish years of my working life and have about 4 years in manufacturing the products I used to use, but at the end of the day it is really just my opinion, but I mean I wouldn't ever drink it so I try to treat my pigeons as well as I do myself.
Massive thanks for rest of your videos and guides helped me so so much in the pigeon sport.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons
Most Virkon and bio vx products are pretty similar and contain some really strong acids, chlorides and limonenes.
In large scale industrial farming where proper stockmanship is difficult due to time and scale, I can genuinely see the benefits.
But in a smaller scale environment with quality, anti-biotic free, pigeons such as your amazing loft, I think the products do more harm than good to the gut biome. Our company chemist agrees.
I worked in farming for about 10years and in manufacturing for 4 and in honesty, I think it’s as simple as, I wouldn’t drink it no matter how dilute it was so I wouldn’t give it to my pigeons.
This is only my opinion and you’re free to disagree, I mean who am I to say?
Great channel great advice thanks for all your help made so so much difference to my loft.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons
sorry if multiple replies for same question, my first reply seems to have disappeared but may still be visible for you?@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons
Most Virkon and bio vx products are pretty similar and contain some really strong acids, chlorides and limonenes.
In large scale industrial farming where proper stockmanship is difficult due to time and scale, I can genuinely see the benefits.
But in a smaller scale environment with quality, anti-biotic free, pigeons such as your amazing loft, I think the products do more harm than good to the gut biome. Our company chemist agrees.
I worked in farming for about 10years and in manufacturing for 4 and in honesty, I think it’s as simple as, I wouldn’t drink it no matter how dilute it was so I wouldn’t give it to my pigeons.
This is only my opinion and you’re free to disagree, I mean who am I to say?
Great channel great advice thanks for all your help made so so much difference to my loft.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons
Love the content
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
0:55 What do you suggest for dimensions on a racing loft for 60 young birds
It is tough to say. More space is better than less space. 60 young may need 8 foot by 12 foot with a small flight pen.
Hello, can you turn on the "subtitles" function for this video?
Subtitles should be okay now
Thank you ... Question - what does feeding look like on the last day for a 750 km flight (putting on on Thursday and flying on Saturday)? I know that the food is rich - do you feed twice a day as much as possible, or with some restrictions?
I will feed twice and all they want if I have time for a long flight the day of shipping. I use mostly fat seeds and mix Versela Laga Traditional Sneaky Mix with Versela Laga Energy.
Thanks . In the upcoming season, due to limited time, I will try your method of feeding and training for females. We have quite a demanding plan - 14 flights, including: 4 x 530 km and 2 x 750 km. In previous years, my pigeons (except the yearlings) participated in all flights every week. We'll see for how long
this new system will allow, because I will not hide that it will be a small "revolution" for my pigeons :) ...
What type of Barley do you use?
Any good high quality barley made for pigeons will work just fine.
Good afternoon from Rodney G
I am asking for Polish subtitles.Thank you for your wise films.
Not sure if this is something I can do? I will check
Hi Frank.
On average how many birds are you competing against during the season..? And how many flyers in your federation & club..?
Enjoy your videos.. 🙏
Hello Steven, My combine has dropped drastically the last several years which is sad. We went from many to 65 to 75 lofts and close to 1000 birds now if we are lucky. Long for the days when I could compete against thousands of pigeons
Super video as always
I was looking on the internet and I saw pigeons of the Sion strain , are they still doing good as they are long distance blood
They are an old family and Sion died a million years ago. It is easier to find a long distance pigeon that is very successful today and winning for many fanciers now. Your odds are much better.
although i wasn't able to watch live, as always a very informative video hopefully i can put some of the ideas into practice. when you talking about not loft flying because of the hawks. i too had a horrible last yb season. i had a small 8 bird team and lost all but three at various times. do you think that just bringing them on training tosses gives ybs a better chance of survival from attacks?
keep up the videos
Once my young birds are training I no longer loft fly. You increase losses due to hawks by loft flying. My old birds are not even let out to fly once during the entire season. I go right from the loft to training but start at 1/4 mile and the birds are nice and light due to feeding. Loft flying early in the season will lead to hawks killing some of the pigeons.
Frank do you pair your birds up before racing
I do not pair the birds before racing. I feel it may be beneficial to do this and the hens are less likely to mate to each other if they had a baby right before the season starts. I keep it very simple and just go right into racing.
Hi frank super video as always i have a few hens i didn't race in 2 years would they be alright to get back racing this season or would i have to give a lot of training on the road first to get them homing
It is difficult to bring pigeons back to racing after two years off. It can be done and hens will certainly be easier. Start slow and give plenty of training before the races. If they have been loft flying all this time they will not need any extra training.
Good evening Mr mclaughlin could I use yellow drops in the water when you have plenty pigeons its tough hold them individually.
Many use the yellow drops on the grain. It works well on the grain. I would suggest two drop per pigeon if you put on the grain then feed to the pigeons immediately.
Hi..frank.are you giving your birds a water right away wen they arrived?somebody says is not good if give them a water right away.thanks
That is a mistake. When my birds arrive they can go to water and drink all they want if they like. They are dehydrated after a long flight and must drink upon arrival. Do not listen the the 'old wives tales". Let them drink.
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thanks for the reply frank.have a good day.
Also I wanted to find out at what age you put your birds on the Mr mclaughlin.
What is the question? Put them on? Maybe the barley mix? 50% barley at about 12 weeks old when I want them to start flying.
Thank you Frank, any idea how to prevent rotavirus? Where can we get those vaccine for that
I am sure there are a few good ones down from the Sion birds. Sion died so many years ago you are better finding birds that are winning long distance races today. Your odds are increased.
Great video! Can you give apple cider vinegar to pairs during the breeding season when they are pumping youngsters?
The vinegar is excellent during breeding a few days per week but not more than 1 ounce to the gallon of water.
Hey Frank I have some birds that starting switching their neck what is got for that I appreciate if you help me with that.
Hello Wilberto, I am not sure what you are asking?
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons some of my birds I think they have the Rota virus. They twitching their neck.
Might be PMV. Paramyxovirus. Have they been vaccinated? You should vaccinated immediately
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons last year I vaccinated
Send me a video
Excellent. At about the hour mark you mentioned only training a team out to 18 miles about one week before the first race. Were those old birds that had previously been down the road or previously raced, or did they literally have only that short experience to 18 miles out prior to racing?
Hi Kerby, These were my old birds and the body weight was perfect. They had experience and came to the top with very little work before the season.
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Have you ever seen young birds go to races with little experience at distance and still do well? Is the body weight a bigger factor than experience?
Funny that you say that. I have seen amazing performances with pigeons with less training and perfect body weight. The birds need enough experience to home but they can pull away with perfect body weight. Young birds need some mixing and breaking but after that feeding is a big part.
Sir a gift bird coming from you will be a legacy to be my foundation pair and I will thank you for it all the rest of my life😊
How long should I train YB’s and OB’s …
Much depends on the body weight. Watch my Educating Young Birds video and with old birds if you get them out to 50 miles before the first race it is plenty.
Pigeon are corn eater I don't think pellets is good .what's your thoughts
Pigeons should never be raised on 100% pellets. I plan a video on this soon. My breeders probably eat about 5% pellets.
Once vaccine is opened, can it be re sealed and use at a later date? Thanks Frank
Yes. I use a clean needle each time I place it into the vaccine and will keep a vaccine for a month or more after opening. I always keep the vaccine cold and inject the birds with cold vaccine. Pox vaccine is different because I mix small portions. See my Vaccine Videos
Frank what is it you give the birds to prevent respiratory problems i want to stop using anti biotics.
I do not flock treat for respiratory. If a bird gets a problem I will inject with LA 200 which I buy at Tractor Supply. 0.4 ml behind the neck one dose only usually cures one eyed colds, rattles or any respiratory problem. Buy the smallest bottle and give slightly less than 1/2 of a ml
Do you think its ok to use chicken 18% pellets to breed?
I plan a video on pellets soon. Do not breed on 100% pellets. Breed on grain and supplement with pellets maybe less than 10%
Your pigeons are antibiotic free but you vaccinate for everything.if your pigeons get sick during racing season what do you do?
I use the natural products that help keep the birds healthy. I will treat a sick bird individually but do not flock treat. If the pigeons do not look right I will rest them for several days. I have had an occasional race team bird get sick and I will treat it and leave on the team. Check this out my natural program: th-cam.com/video/aLjysaQflgM/w-d-xo.html
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