Monogatari does this so well, and thats the reason it's my favorite work of fiction. There are so many minor interactions that have meaning later on. Like in the second scene with Hanekawa when Araragi is scolding her about bananas she says something to the effect of "I guess if you ask they're nutritious so yes I like them" Which directly links to a conversation that Hanekawa and Senjougahara have in Neko:Shiro about taste and how Hanekawa sees the world. It all makes it very hard for me to believe that Nisio wasn't planning anything after bake (My knowledge is that everything that came after was due to the warm reception it received but I may be entirely mistaken)
@@Saplingbat I feel like Nisio writes similarly to George RR. Martin, could be a gardener. A quote from GRRM: “I think there are two types of writers, the architects and the gardeners. The architects plan everything ahead of time, like an architect building a house. They know how many rooms are going to be in the house, what kind of roof they're going to have, where the wires are going to run, what kind of plumbing there's going to be. They have the whole thing designed and blueprinted out before they even nail the first board up. The gardeners dig a hole, drop in a seed and water it. They kind of know what seed it is, they know if planted a fantasy seed or mystery seed or whatever. But as the plant comes up and they water it, they don't know how many branches it's going to have, they find out as it grows. And I'm much more a gardener than an architect.”
I've just realised that when I was watching MSS I was having these uncomfortable thoughts about the nature of myself, wondering if I am who I am mainly because of my genetic characteristics or due to interaction with the environment and how to distinguish which parts of me are kind of "essential" to my being and which are simply adopted from others. I'm glad that the show could make me do this even if I'm not as brilliant as you as an analyst and I wouldn't be able to tell that the show is trying to show this dillema. It's great that we've got people like you to show plebs like me why do we love the series so much. A N A L Y Z E N E X T M O N O G A T A R I S E A S O N P L E A S E
This arc was one of my favorites in the Monogatari series, it just felt so different from the arcs that preceded it, and I loved the relationship between Shinobu and Araragi. This video made me appreciate it even more.
This arc is one of the best of all arcs on monogatari series. The most romantic and emotional. Tbh, I also cried at that time we see a grown-up mayoi. Thanks as always for the analysis man.
I frequently ask myself: would it be better if I'd never watched anime? And, amazingly, find answers to Sartre's ones. I am the guy who've been watching anime for 10 years now and who love UTS's content and that's great, there's no need to get shit on that fact and feel shame of it but better try to accept it and maybe even put it at basis of my identity. I don't know how I will end like in future but definitely there's no way I reject what has already happened and influenced me to be who am I now.
I also frequently question how I would've turned out if I never discovered anime so early, because no matter how I look at it, it changed the course of my life drastically. I found a temporary escape and safe place in anime and video games as a kid since about 12-13 years old, which had kept me safe for sure from bullying and whatnot since I never left home, but I can't help but wonder if all the issues I struggle with now might've become more easily manageable had I not chosen that easy route so early in life, and just left home and dealt with the challenges head on... It didn't help that no one my age at the time had any idea what anime was until I got into college and suddenly it was the new trendy thing everyone talked about. But yea, no point thinking about the possibilities when we have no control over them. All we can do is accept, and deal. My current goal in life is just to make the me of today just that tad bit better than the me of yesterday, by my own standards of course, no point in adding external pressure on myself. And that's a good enough life goal for me right now.
Ух ты, русскоговорящий человек (осмелюсь предположить из-за имени) в комментариях под таким комплексным и сложным для понимания даже на английском языке видео. Редкое явление, mein respecturen.
It's a great analysis, but I do find that it's important to say that in Monogatari the idea the Essence precedes Existence sits at the core of the series. Simply put, there is no way you can interpret Monogatari under the idea that Existence precedes Essence. If the darkness that swallows all that strays from it's essence isn't enough of a hint, nothing will ever be. In fact, in Monogatari one can only change their Essence by loosing their existence - Araragi dies to become a Vampire and dies to become human again; Mayoi dies to become a ghost; and Sengoku is enshrined to become a god (to when she earns power over her own essence, after all she is a God). But that only means that, and nothing more: your essence is your essence, that which defines your being, but not you. The essence of a human creates the human, but it doesn't create evil humans or good humans. The platonic concept drifting in the plane of ideas is merely the collection of what makes a thing that thing and not any other thing. It's formless, abstract, and without any individual characteristic, made up only and solely by the general characteristic of that thing. It does, however, give form to the concept that will them, by existing, break down into it's particularities. The Shinobu of both timelines have the same essence, they draw from the same root, the same concept of the vampire, created by the subconscious of the collective (since she is an oddity, after all), but the Shinobu of the second timeline and the Shinobu of the first timeline are still different individuals, because, once they are grounded in reality, bounded by existence, their particularities will set them apart like day and night.
I think concerning the darkness it isn't that it was after mayoi because she was no longer mayoi (essence) it was after her because she was not being the lost cow (existence)
i like this interpretation a lot i think. the darkness punishes those who stray from their essence-- mayoi, lost cow, lost her defining trait, a.k.a. being lost, so the darkness came for her. that was what defined her (essence), rather than her being let off the hook by the darkness because in her actions, choices, and relationships, she was always her "self" (existence). but i think that in monogatari, it goes one step further in this in ougi dark and acerola bon appetit (spoilers!). in ougi dark, ougi is gonna get swallowed by the darkness because she's trying to make her actions define her (existence) by pretending to be the darkness- if existence won out, she would basically be the darkness, and so said actual darkness would have no reason to destroy her. but because her essence is fundamentally araragi, she can only buy time from the darkness that again punishes those who stray from their essence. however, ougi is saved when oshino, through an *action,* decides to perceive her as his niece. but if essence truly wins out over existence, doesn't that mean no matter what anyone does, ougi will die because she stopped being who she is supposed to be? i think what this means is that essence precedes existence, but existence can still change essence. ougi oshino became ougi oshino- not araragi, but a new essence that was decidedly her own. the same thing happens in acerola bon appetit, where acerola changes her essence (the beautiful princess) via her existence (becoming a vampire-- more specifically, becoming kiss shot, a nee identity). this kinda ties back to other themes and gives a hopeful message, where we look at fakes-- oshino says the fakes have equal value, which maybe means existence and essence live as a kind of yin and yang, in balance with each other. it also demonstrates how even a fake will eventually become just like the real thing. the message i like here is that it means "you can be who you want to be." thats my take on it anyway.
@@sinkableruby7707 Beautifully put... Adding to the darkness during Oni, Gaen parallelizes Darkness to be societal. Darkness is the Societal forces for Kaii (Oddities), just like how humanity experiences forces from society. Looking through the essence/existence lenses, Gaen's parallelization makes the point that there are societal forces that dictates the existence for all of us. Meaning there are things in life that controls our existence in respect to essence. I would say that this statement make sense in terms of essence precedes existence. Society is an environmental factor that shapes who we are. It is an interesting idea that Kaii needs a physical manifestation of society, due to their nature of being Kaii. Though this is just pondering on the technicalities of the Mono's universe, but I digress. Darkness/Anti-existence is an interesting literary device... Oh yeah... Darkness is also called Anti-existence lmao, the idea is so in your face.
but i think the point of the video is not that essence is more or less important then existence,and rather that either way, your existence hugely affects your essence
@@sinkableruby7707 I think that it is a wonderful interpretation but for me in Monogatari the concept of essence is more a limit that : it is one that you create yourself how say Yotsugi (Sengoku Nadeko that can't see another life without Araragi Koyomi but Kaiki remember that All is in is head) but you muss always remember that you have your limits how it have been "seeing" in Shinobu Time who Shinobu and Mayoi are judge by the Obscurity for crossing the line. For me the real message his asking you what are your reals limits and why is this so a bit like Kaiki Deishû will make you ask is this really the truth or you have to know that it muss be the truth? I think they are multiple interpretation and you can see it whit the multiple ideologies the charachters have over the same subject but i think this is more the way oh Kaiki's ideologie or more like Kant if you told him this concept's (Sorry i'am not a native english speaker so I think my english isn't perfect but I have make my best)
"If given the chance to change your past, you might return to the future you don't belong in, to you, that you don't recognize. You are you. Indescribably, unabashedly you" That hit so hard. Such strong message Great analysis!!
A gentle reminder, the goal to help Mayoi was but a goal they just came up with after the time travel. The initial reason they do the time travel was because Araragi didn't do his homework.
LOL!! I forgot that plot point, the fact that they could time travel in this series and mechanics of it were so distracting and mind boggling that i even forgot why it happened.. After a while I realized the second season was sowing the seeds for all the characters conclusions and how they got to the arcs was part of the reason why so many unexpected things were suddenly happening.. But honestly when i first watched this arc i was so confused whether it really happened or not, watching this video just gave me insight to the depth of the writing that; even a trivial reason like "needing to study/do your homework" can lead to a time travel story about existential crises
I think this is more an examination of Sartre's ideas through the lens of Mayoi Jiangshi than an examination of Mayoi Jiangshi through the lens of Sartre. Still an interesting video though.
10:52 ... "there needs to be some fundamental, unchanging part of our nature, or else we may change with the wind". That really hit home because of its logical implications. [1.] - If nothing about us is a constant, they we can be changed to any extent by things in our surrounding that influence us. If that is the case, the what even am I? [2.] - But if there is something constant about us, that takes away an extent of our "freedom" and choice, among the things that we could become (in totality). [3.] - Yet, if that constant part of us (call it DNA, fundamental brain structure, whatever) is not there, then in a way we don't even have any freedom, because what is "me" becomes purely a function of external stimuli (which are ever changing, no matter how fast or slow). And how can "me" have freedom if effectively, there is no defined "me" in the first place? Then the entity is purely a slave to the extrinsic. So effectively, in a thematic sense, giving up a level of freedom by having some unchanging intrinsic thing about us, makes possible at least certain "degrees of freedom" (in what we may become). Because as I said above, if we are given "complete freedom", it effectively amounts "no freedom" simultaneously (thereby also ensuring that duality is always maintained). Because then there exists no "self" separate from the extrinsic world to have freedom in the first place.
Me initially seeing this arc: "Man Araragi sure is oddly distant at time. Just a headpat? After years of isolation from the one person she needed most? Surely she deserves more in her final moment." Me coming back from the spring break films understanding just HOW important that one thing is to her: "oh god oh geez, f u c k" and then I turn into that picture of that cat dissipating into cubes as it cries.
When I watch your (brilliant) videos on Monogatari, I'm always struck by how very much a celebration of the individual it is, and how much that theme is riffed upon in each of the main heroines. I think there's something really brave about the way it presents human flaws, and even pain itself - making the point that they're worth having on their own terms, not as a means to an end or as something bad we have to deal with just to get to the good points in our lives. You can actively *celebrate* the existence of pain, and potentially even the worst things you do - because they're all bound up in an individual who has worth, so they have worth in themselves.
Utilitarian View: You think of Thanos, I think of Kiritsugu, two sides of the same coin. "We have the capacity to do great good, but given the wrong set of circumstances, we can also reach terrible depths." - What it means to be human.
true it's so opposing that i think of Kiritsugu, the man who would kill a few to save many even if it's his loved one, Araragi Koyomi a man who would rather saved his loved one than the world
Fantastic video, all your monogatari analyses are great. I'm super looking forward to seeing how you approach Nadeko Medusa! Even if I have to wait a bit, haha
Amongst the best reviews you have written. Time to time again, I find myself coming back to this video with the gaps of few months and think of how wonderful the arc was and how you shared your perspective.
This is a much better motivational video than you might have found elsewhere. Please Lord, give this guy millions of views. This channel is certainly one of many who actually put some effort in making it.
Wonderful. Monogatari is my favourite piece of art and so getting an analysis of a part of it as detailed as this is very much appreciated. Thanks UTS! I hope we get more Monogatari analysis in the future, because this was really interesting and gave me so much more to think about when I re-watch the arc, and the series as a whole.
This video is exactly what I need right now in the face of everyone shoving my own doubts and regrets in my face. As always, thank you for your incredible videos
It’s awesome how much bigger your channel has gotten since I first saw this videos : P I wanna see you break down every monogatri episode. You’re just so good at it.
Thankfully one of the steps on this route was finding your channel and monogatari videos! Loved the analyses and each one gave me more to appreciate from the monogatari series, thanks for taking the time and energy to make these!
I wasn't familiar with Sartre, but this belief is exactly what I always believed in. I think that even the parts of us that don't change were ultimately created by us, but are so deep-rooted that they can't be changed easily anymore.
Dang, I can really relate to this. Given, regret tends to be a thing many people tend to torment themselves over. Btw, the writing in this video was really beautiful! I loved every single second of it.
Thanks for the analysis, I think I need about 15 watch throughs to get it all, and I think I might just do that. It was that good. It made me think about things I hadn't considered before.
I keep coming back to this video just because of how amazing this video is, like the info and every second, I... I cherished it, thank you my dude for your work on this, thank you so much!
I wouldn't necessarily say wanted to portray a conflict between existence and essence in this arc, but the conflict which he constructed just so happens to be one of that kind. Nice analysis your videos help to not only pinpoint but also conserve what something was about.
Your Monogatari videos are my favorite! I know it will be awhile, but I feel like I should expect a video for every arc past second season since there are so many beautiful things to talk about for each one :)
I have, I'm alive because I choose to be. Until the timer runs out that is. So until that happens, I'll be looking forward to seeing what the world has to offer. That way, when the timer reaches 0. I can greet it with a smile. What more could you possibly need?
As always this was an amazingly well crafted and inspiring video, great work. Really good OST choices for the background music it added a lot of poignancy to what you were saying. I know the Monogatari OSTs like the back of my hand so it's always interesting to see which tracks people choose as background music to their analysis, I think it gives a glimpse into how people view the show without them saying anything the tracks that they remember most. My absolute favourite OST is Anticlimax and I bet we'll be hearing that beautiful somber piece a lot in your Otorimonogatari and Koimonogatari analyses. You picked all my favourite Kabuki tracks; Umarekawari, Tegami, Iwakan, and Magaimono Sonomono no Onna I listen to pretty much every day. Shinsetsu was a nice choice too. Kabuki has been my favourite arc for a few years now ever since I started re-watching the show quite often and trying to analyze. I love it because it's the most divorced thing to occur in the sequence of Araragi's recollection even more than Kizumonogatari. Him and Shinobu leave the world we've been in from the start for another one, yet everything that happens feels connected to their previous world and it is, him and Shinobu's experience in another world line allow them to grow a lot as people and it has a lasting impact on the series. It's like the disconnect from their own world and the subsequent consequences of their actions leaving them utterly alone is what allowed them to truly think about themselves and life instead of helping others or just distracting themselves. I also love the atmosphere of it all. It's lonely yet comforting, desolate yet beautiful, traveling across world lines with your partner meeting people you've known and love in your world, they're different yet in some ways just the same, a mixture of comfort at the feeling of familiarity and dread at the knowledge one simple thing occurring differently could completely change the course of your entire life. It's powerful stuff and to think it all was predicated on Araragi forgetting to do his homework... Love, love, love this show and you are the king of analyzing it so far. Keep it up! If anyone is craving some more high quality analysis of Monogatari, check this video out it's great and criminally under viewed: th-cam.com/video/RCc_dJSmlSY/w-d-xo.html Spoiler warning though he uses visuals from Bake through to Owari 2.
Isin is such a brilliant writer. He takes alot of influences and incorporates them into monogatari. The last season, b4 the finale with ougi, has strong arthur conan doyle inspiration
If I returned to a version of myself I didn't recognize, I'd be happy beyond words. I hate myself with a singular, nova-bright burning passion. ANYTHING has to be better than what I am now.
I love monogatari and the psychological/philosophical views it presents so I am sad with this video. I deeply believe existence precedes essence so I am sad I cant agree with a masterpiece such as monogatari. Thanks for making this video and I still love monogatari even with this difference.
I love how Mayoi Jiangshi and Shinobu Time acts as both their own character arcs and the other ones arcs. In Mayoi Jiangshi, its an arc where araragi wanted to help the mayoi in the past but the arc changes in to what happen with shinobu in the new future Then in Shinobu Time, it talks about the darkness who has haunted shinobu in the past coming back now but actually it chases Mayoi
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this.. and I doubt it's of any importance.. but Jiang Shi is like a Chinese vampire. So, to me, although it has Mayoi's name in the arc, the sole inclusion of the reference to a being from Chinese folklore indicates Shinobu's significance in this story. That and you're 2 more arcs away from what is probably one of my favorite arcs in the series, if not my favorite.
Well, I think Koyomi ending a conversation with Mayoi in Route X and then walks away, really had a deeper meaning other than Mayoi didn't even know Koyomi in Route X or himself.
I. Love. Mayoi. I connect with the character and their not lack of direction but complete directionlessness; drastic changes happening to me rather than being chosen.
Hmm, I like your analysis videos, but I think the final point of this video felt a little obvious. Of the debate between purely existence and purely essence, you arrive at the conclusion that we posses some immutable character, but we are largely shaped by our choices and experiences. This does not seem to be a particularly surprising or creative point in my opinion. slight spoilers for the rest of the Monogatari Second Season and Tsukimonogatari: If you wanted to discuss Sartre, I would think that a discussion on the nature of apparitions in Monogatari might be a better tie into his philosophy. For example, most of Shinobu's story involves the tension between acting like a vampire and acting like a god, and if everyone believes she is a god, she no longer becomes a vampire. Yet, why does the darkness come instead of she actually becoming a god? in Tsukimonogatari, Araragi is in danger of becoming a vampire because is exists as one too easily. This deals with apparitions, so what are apparitions even supposed to represent within the story of monogatari? I feel like these questions would have been more interesting deal with.
m( _ _ )m thanks UTS at times, it’s kinda easy to hate the "me" I have become, so yah, really needed this ~ don’t regret the past that has made you, "you". don’t worry; this "now" is where you belong. there is still much more to look forward to, much more that will continue to mold you, so just keep moving forward, as yourself (12:37 - 13:26).
"To a you, you don't recognize" Cuts straight to Ougi. Clever.
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Careful with the spoilers hehehe
Monogatari does this so well, and thats the reason it's my favorite work of fiction. There are so many minor interactions that have meaning later on. Like in the second scene with Hanekawa when Araragi is scolding her about bananas she says something to the effect of "I guess if you ask they're nutritious so yes I like them" Which directly links to a conversation that Hanekawa and Senjougahara have in Neko:Shiro about taste and how Hanekawa sees the world.
It all makes it very hard for me to believe that Nisio wasn't planning anything after bake (My knowledge is that everything that came after was due to the warm reception it received but I may be entirely mistaken)
@@Saplingbat My favourite one of those is with how they reference "the classroom incident" in bake.
I wanted to commend this too!
Really good one
@@Saplingbat I feel like Nisio writes similarly to George RR. Martin, could be a gardener.
A quote from GRRM: “I think there are two types of writers, the architects and the gardeners. The architects plan everything ahead of time, like an architect building a house. They know how many rooms are going to be in the house, what kind of roof they're going to have, where the wires are going to run, what kind of plumbing there's going to be. They have the whole thing designed and blueprinted out before they even nail the first board up. The gardeners dig a hole, drop in a seed and water it. They kind of know what seed it is, they know if planted a fantasy seed or mystery seed or whatever. But as the plant comes up and they water it, they don't know how many branches it's going to have, they find out as it grows. And I'm much more a gardener than an architect.”
there is nothing as beatifull as a under the scope monogatari video
I apologize in advance for my woeful mispronunciation of everything.
Add "exsistence" at 4:31
I can't be too mad, you can at least properly pronounce Monogatari. Not monoGatari.....you don't enunciate Improperly at least...
I've just realised that when I was watching MSS I was having these uncomfortable thoughts about the nature of myself, wondering if I am who I am mainly because of my genetic characteristics or due to interaction with the environment and how to distinguish which parts of me are kind of "essential" to my being and which are simply adopted from others. I'm glad that the show could make me do this even if I'm not as brilliant as you as an analyst and I wouldn't be able to tell that the show is trying to show this dillema. It's great that we've got people like you to show plebs like me why do we love the series so much.
A N A L Y Z E N E X T M O N O G A T A R I S E A S O N P L E A S E
@@GhostlyNomad130 His pronunciation of monogatari is also incorrect.
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The genius of Monogatari. Thank you for this analysis.
An thank you for not arresting Araragi
New monogatari analysis videos are what keep me going
I love this series to death
This arc was one of my favorites in the Monogatari series, it just felt so different from the arcs that preceded it, and I loved the relationship between Shinobu and Araragi.
This video made me appreciate it even more.
Its why I always say that Shinobu and Araragi have a complicated relationship. One exists for the other.
The scene where Kiss-Shot asks Araragi to pat her head felt so sad yet satisfying at the same time!
Can Monogatari do no wrong?!
She just the same shinobu that take a wrong turn
This arc is one of the best of all arcs on monogatari series. The most romantic and emotional. Tbh, I also cried at that time we see a grown-up mayoi. Thanks as always for the analysis man.
I frequently ask myself: would it be better if I'd never watched anime? And, amazingly, find answers to Sartre's ones. I am the guy who've been watching anime for 10 years now and who love UTS's content and that's great, there's no need to get shit on that fact and feel shame of it but better try to accept it and maybe even put it at basis of my identity. I don't know how I will end like in future but definitely there's no way I reject what has already happened and influenced me to be who am I now.
никта AMEN dude
I also frequently question how I would've turned out if I never discovered anime so early, because no matter how I look at it, it changed the course of my life drastically. I found a temporary escape and safe place in anime and video games as a kid since about 12-13 years old, which had kept me safe for sure from bullying and whatnot since I never left home, but I can't help but wonder if all the issues I struggle with now might've become more easily manageable had I not chosen that easy route so early in life, and just left home and dealt with the challenges head on... It didn't help that no one my age at the time had any idea what anime was until I got into college and suddenly it was the new trendy thing everyone talked about.
But yea, no point thinking about the possibilities when we have no control over them. All we can do is accept, and deal. My current goal in life is just to make the me of today just that tad bit better than the me of yesterday, by my own standards of course, no point in adding external pressure on myself. And that's a good enough life goal for me right now.
Ух ты, русскоговорящий человек (осмелюсь предположить из-за имени) в комментариях под таким комплексным и сложным для понимания даже на английском языке видео. Редкое явление, mein respecturen.
It's a great analysis, but I do find that it's important to say that in Monogatari the idea the Essence precedes Existence sits at the core of the series. Simply put, there is no way you can interpret Monogatari under the idea that Existence precedes Essence. If the darkness that swallows all that strays from it's essence isn't enough of a hint, nothing will ever be. In fact, in Monogatari one can only change their Essence by loosing their existence - Araragi dies to become a Vampire and dies to become human again; Mayoi dies to become a ghost; and Sengoku is enshrined to become a god (to when she earns power over her own essence, after all she is a God). But that only means that, and nothing more: your essence is your essence, that which defines your being, but not you. The essence of a human creates the human, but it doesn't create evil humans or good humans. The platonic concept drifting in the plane of ideas is merely the collection of what makes a thing that thing and not any other thing. It's formless, abstract, and without any individual characteristic, made up only and solely by the general characteristic of that thing. It does, however, give form to the concept that will them, by existing, break down into it's particularities.
The Shinobu of both timelines have the same essence, they draw from the same root, the same concept of the vampire, created by the subconscious of the collective (since she is an oddity, after all), but the Shinobu of the second timeline and the Shinobu of the first timeline are still different individuals, because, once they are grounded in reality, bounded by existence, their particularities will set them apart like day and night.
I think concerning the darkness it isn't that it was after mayoi because she was no longer mayoi (essence) it was after her because she was not being the lost cow (existence)
i like this interpretation a lot i think. the darkness punishes those who stray from their essence-- mayoi, lost cow, lost her defining trait, a.k.a. being lost, so the darkness came for her. that was what defined her (essence), rather than her being let off the hook by the darkness because in her actions, choices, and relationships, she was always her "self" (existence). but i think that in monogatari, it goes one step further in this in ougi dark and acerola bon appetit (spoilers!). in ougi dark, ougi is gonna get swallowed by the darkness because she's trying to make her actions define her (existence) by pretending to be the darkness- if existence won out, she would basically be the darkness, and so said actual darkness would have no reason to destroy her. but because her essence is fundamentally araragi, she can only buy time from the darkness that again punishes those who stray from their essence. however, ougi is saved when oshino, through an *action,* decides to perceive her as his niece. but if essence truly wins out over existence, doesn't that mean no matter what anyone does, ougi will die because she stopped being who she is supposed to be? i think what this means is that essence precedes existence, but existence can still change essence. ougi oshino became ougi oshino- not araragi, but a new essence that was decidedly her own. the same thing happens in acerola bon appetit, where acerola changes her essence (the beautiful princess) via her existence (becoming a vampire-- more specifically, becoming kiss shot, a nee identity). this kinda ties back to other themes and gives a hopeful message, where we look at fakes-- oshino says the fakes have equal value, which maybe means existence and essence live as a kind of yin and yang, in balance with each other. it also demonstrates how even a fake will eventually become just like the real thing. the message i like here is that it means "you can be who you want to be." thats my take on it anyway.
@@sinkableruby7707 Beautifully put...
Adding to the darkness during Oni, Gaen parallelizes Darkness to be societal. Darkness is the Societal forces for Kaii (Oddities), just like how humanity experiences forces from society. Looking through the essence/existence lenses, Gaen's parallelization makes the point that there are societal forces that dictates the existence for all of us. Meaning there are things in life that controls our existence in respect to essence. I would say that this statement make sense in terms of essence precedes existence. Society is an environmental factor that shapes who we are.
It is an interesting idea that Kaii needs a physical manifestation of society, due to their nature of being Kaii. Though this is just pondering on the technicalities of the Mono's universe, but I digress.
Darkness/Anti-existence is an interesting literary device... Oh yeah... Darkness is also called Anti-existence lmao, the idea is so in your face.
but i think the point of the video is not that essence is more or less important then existence,and rather that either way, your existence hugely affects your essence
@@sinkableruby7707 I think that it is a wonderful interpretation but for me in Monogatari the concept of essence is more a limit that : it is one that you create yourself how say Yotsugi (Sengoku Nadeko that can't see another life without Araragi Koyomi but Kaiki remember that All is in is head) but you muss always remember that you have your limits how it have been "seeing" in Shinobu Time who Shinobu and Mayoi are judge by the Obscurity for crossing the line. For me the real message his asking you what are your reals limits and why is this so a bit like Kaiki Deishû will make you ask is this really the truth or you have to know that it muss be the truth? I think they are multiple interpretation and you can see it whit the multiple ideologies the charachters have over the same subject but i think this is more the way oh Kaiki's ideologie or more like Kant if you told him this concept's
(Sorry i'am not a native english speaker so I think my english isn't perfect but I have make my best)
"If given the chance to change your past, you might return to the future you don't belong in, to you, that you don't recognize. You are you. Indescribably, unabashedly you"
That hit so hard. Such strong message
Great analysis!!
A gentle reminder, the goal to help Mayoi was but a goal they just came up with after the time travel. The initial reason they do the time travel was because Araragi didn't do his homework.
LOL!! I forgot that plot point, the fact that they could time travel in this series and mechanics of it were so distracting and mind boggling that i even forgot why it happened.. After a while I realized the second season was sowing the seeds for all the characters conclusions and how they got to the arcs was part of the reason why so many unexpected things were suddenly happening..
But honestly when i first watched this arc i was so confused whether it really happened or not, watching this video just gave me insight to the depth of the writing that; even a trivial reason like "needing to study/do your homework" can lead to a time travel story about existential crises
I think this is more an examination of Sartre's ideas through the lens of Mayoi Jiangshi than an examination of Mayoi Jiangshi through the lens of Sartre. Still an interesting video though.
Can't wait for a video on Owarimonogatari 2.
4 years ago, and it's still such an amazing analysis!
Oh my god yes I love these monogatari analysis videos
And it still remains amongst my comfort videos ;--;
Thanks for making this video
10:52 ... "there needs to be some fundamental, unchanging part of our nature, or else we may change with the wind".
That really hit home because of its logical implications.
[1.] - If nothing about us is a constant, they we can be changed to any extent by things in our surrounding that influence us. If that is the case, the what even am I?
[2.] - But if there is something constant about us, that takes away an extent of our "freedom" and choice, among the things that we could become (in totality).
[3.] - Yet, if that constant part of us (call it DNA, fundamental brain structure, whatever) is not there, then in a way we don't even have any freedom, because what is "me" becomes purely a function of external stimuli (which are ever changing, no matter how fast or slow).
And how can "me" have freedom if effectively, there is no defined "me" in the first place? Then the entity is purely a slave to the extrinsic.
So effectively, in a thematic sense, giving up a level of freedom by having some unchanging intrinsic thing about us, makes possible at least certain "degrees of freedom" (in what we may become). Because as I said above, if we are given "complete freedom", it effectively amounts "no freedom" simultaneously (thereby also ensuring that duality is always maintained).
Because then there exists no "self" separate from the extrinsic world to have freedom in the first place.
So.....keep going. What you've got here is trivial. See Calvinism.
Me initially seeing this arc: "Man Araragi sure is oddly distant at time. Just a headpat? After years of isolation from the one person she needed most? Surely she deserves more in her final moment."
Me coming back from the spring break films understanding just HOW important that one thing is to her: "oh god oh geez, f u c k" and then I turn into that picture of that cat dissipating into cubes as it cries.
Yesss I've been waiting for more Monogatari from you, UTS! :D this is gonna be great
reviewing for an exam on philo on existentialism, and ive never thought id be watching an anime analysis, thank you for this!!
Monogatari Series really won't fail to impressed us.
This combines everything I like anime and philosophy
When I watch your (brilliant) videos on Monogatari, I'm always struck by how very much a celebration of the individual it is, and how much that theme is riffed upon in each of the main heroines. I think there's something really brave about the way it presents human flaws, and even pain itself - making the point that they're worth having on their own terms, not as a means to an end or as something bad we have to deal with just to get to the good points in our lives. You can actively *celebrate* the existence of pain, and potentially even the worst things you do - because they're all bound up in an individual who has worth, so they have worth in themselves.
Utilitarian View: You think of Thanos, I think of Kiritsugu, two sides of the same coin.
"We have the capacity to do great good, but given the wrong set of circumstances, we can also reach terrible depths." - What it means to be human.
True.
Lelouch comes to mind as well
true it's so opposing that i think of Kiritsugu, the man who would kill a few to save many even if it's his loved one, Araragi Koyomi a man who would rather saved his loved one than the world
It's such a shame such quality videos get so few views. Your takes on monogatari really are awesome. I wish I could do videos of that high quality
Fantastic video, all your monogatari analyses are great. I'm super looking forward to seeing how you approach Nadeko Medusa! Even if I have to wait a bit, haha
Hanamonogatari is supposed to be seen next
Amazing, the thought that was put into this video is nothing but Amazing.
Nice video, as always! I especially like the Shaft/Isin-style editing flourishes you added.
Keep up the good work!
Still amongst my comfort videos ;-;
Amongst the best reviews you have written. Time to time again, I find myself coming back to this video with the gaps of few months and think of how wonderful the arc was and how you shared your perspective.
I think we are ourselves, not just the culmination of our experiences.
A character isn't a backstory but what they are, a character.
Keep the monogatari content coming. I really love hearing your thoughts on them
This is a much better motivational video than you might have found elsewhere. Please Lord, give this guy millions of views. This channel is certainly one of many who actually put some effort in making it.
This analysis was beautiful I cried a little. Thank you!
Wonderful. Monogatari is my favourite piece of art and so getting an analysis of a part of it as detailed as this is very much appreciated. Thanks UTS! I hope we get more Monogatari analysis in the future, because this was really interesting and gave me so much more to think about when I re-watch the arc, and the series as a whole.
This video is exactly what I need right now in the face of everyone shoving my own doubts and regrets in my face. As always, thank you for your incredible videos
Beautiful analysis
Monogatari is one of the masterpiece I've seen so far
It’s awesome how much bigger your channel has gotten since I first saw this videos : P I wanna see you break down every monogatri episode. You’re just so good at it.
Your monogatari analysis videos are some of the most thought provoking videos out there. Thanks for all your hard work
Thankfully one of the steps on this route was finding your channel and monogatari videos! Loved the analyses and each one gave me more to appreciate from the monogatari series, thanks for taking the time and energy to make these!
I love how you discuss topic so seriously that even my parents thinks that I was listening to school literature works for school lol
Thumbs up
Wow. Your Monogatari videos are the best thing in TH-cam man. It makes me appreciate the series even more.
Please make more monogatari analysis, they give me life as a fan of the series.
I wasn't familiar with Sartre, but this belief is exactly what I always believed in. I think that even the parts of us that don't change were ultimately created by us, but are so deep-rooted that they can't be changed easily anymore.
My comfort video ;-;
Dang, I can really relate to this. Given, regret tends to be a thing many people tend to torment themselves over.
Btw, the writing in this video was really beautiful! I loved every single second of it.
Thanks for the analysis, I think I need about 15 watch throughs to get it all, and I think I might just do that. It was that good. It made me think about things I hadn't considered before.
I keep coming back to this video just because of how amazing this video is, like the info and every second, I... I cherished it, thank you my dude for your work on this, thank you so much!
I am learning English to be able to understand these videos much better, they are very interesting!
I wouldn't necessarily say wanted to portray a conflict between existence and essence in this arc, but the conflict which he constructed just so happens to be one of that kind. Nice analysis your videos help to not only pinpoint but also conserve what something was about.
I just noticed that subtle steins gate reference at 0:26
God how I wish to see an in-depth analysis of ougii
Another great video as always. Always love hearing your thoughts on monogatari.
Beautifully said, and something I needed to hear.
Your Monogatari videos are my favorite! I know it will be awhile, but I feel like I should expect a video for every arc past second season since there are so many beautiful things to talk about for each one :)
Always happy to see more Monogatari vids =)
Loved the sweet mellow jazz in the middle lol
1.turn closed captions ON
2.wait for him to say "Araragi"
Auto doggie (kamimashita)
8:52-8:54 that scene transition was great
Has anyone ever told you that you make wonderful analysis video's? Because you do.
I have, I'm alive because I choose to be. Until the timer runs out that is. So until that happens, I'll be looking forward to seeing what the world has to offer. That way, when the timer reaches 0. I can greet it with a smile. What more could you possibly need?
god i love thoses type of videos i wish i could like it more than once
Another reason I need to reach the second season. Great analysis.
Thank you for this wondeful analysis. Now I canunderstand Nisio's afterword in the novel
Thank you for letting me watch this
This was such a great arc
Loved the script and the editing, you two. Keep 'em coming!
Beautiful analysis! I haven't watched Monogatari, but this was interesting and thought-provoking.
As always this was an amazingly well crafted and inspiring video, great work. Really good OST choices for the background music it added a lot of poignancy to what you were saying.
I know the Monogatari OSTs like the back of my hand so it's always interesting to see which tracks people choose as background music to their analysis, I think it gives a glimpse into how people view the show without them saying anything the tracks that they remember most.
My absolute favourite OST is Anticlimax and I bet we'll be hearing that beautiful somber piece a lot in your Otorimonogatari and Koimonogatari analyses.
You picked all my favourite Kabuki tracks; Umarekawari, Tegami, Iwakan, and Magaimono Sonomono no Onna I listen to pretty much every day. Shinsetsu was a nice choice too.
Kabuki has been my favourite arc for a few years now ever since I started re-watching the show quite often and trying to analyze.
I love it because it's the most divorced thing to occur in the sequence of Araragi's recollection even more than Kizumonogatari. Him and Shinobu leave the world we've been in from the start for another one, yet everything that happens feels connected to their previous world and it is, him and Shinobu's experience in another world line allow them to grow a lot as people and it has a lasting impact on the series. It's like the disconnect from their own world and the subsequent consequences of their actions leaving them utterly alone is what allowed them to truly think about themselves and life instead of helping others or just distracting themselves.
I also love the atmosphere of it all. It's lonely yet comforting, desolate yet beautiful, traveling across world lines with your partner meeting people you've known and love in your world, they're different yet in some ways just the same, a mixture of comfort at the feeling of familiarity and dread at the knowledge one simple thing occurring differently could completely change the course of your entire life. It's powerful stuff and to think it all was predicated on Araragi forgetting to do his homework...
Love, love, love this show and you are the king of analyzing it so far. Keep it up!
If anyone is craving some more high quality analysis of Monogatari, check this video out it's great and criminally under viewed: th-cam.com/video/RCc_dJSmlSY/w-d-xo.html
Spoiler warning though he uses visuals from Bake through to Owari 2.
DID SOMEONE SAY MAYOI JIANGSHI?
Fuckin' dope. Favourite arc in the series, I'm in.
Isin is such a brilliant writer. He takes alot of influences and incorporates them into monogatari. The last season, b4 the finale with ougi, has strong arthur conan doyle inspiration
Your videos are too good
well written video!
philosophy aside. this story arc blew me away. along with any predictions I had for the story.
thats a mind boggling concept
Amazing video.
Can't wait for the otorimonogatari analysis :p
This is gold
I'm rly looking forward to your analysis on owarimonogatari :)
Very impressive
If I returned to a version of myself I didn't recognize, I'd be happy beyond words. I hate myself with a singular, nova-bright burning passion. ANYTHING has to be better than what I am now.
Such a good analysis!
This was fantastic
I love monogatari and the psychological/philosophical views it presents so I am sad with this video. I deeply believe existence precedes essence so I am sad I cant agree with a masterpiece such as monogatari. Thanks for making this video and I still love monogatari even with this difference.
Hanamonogatari is next.
I always cry when I think of Mayoi. All of her arcs....
Awesome video, thank you for making this
This is an inspirational vid
in the words of koyomi araragi himself, "it is human nature to learn more from defeat than victory."
I love how Mayoi Jiangshi and Shinobu Time acts as both their own character arcs and the other ones arcs.
In Mayoi Jiangshi, its an arc where araragi wanted to help the mayoi in the past but the arc changes in to what happen with shinobu in the new future
Then in Shinobu Time, it talks about the darkness who has haunted shinobu in the past coming back now but actually it chases Mayoi
this video is Amazing
Holy holy, the soundtrack from 11:00 is from the parting gift in episode 20 but with a different instrument
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this.. and I doubt it's of any importance.. but Jiang Shi is like a Chinese vampire. So, to me, although it has Mayoi's name in the arc, the sole inclusion of the reference to a being from Chinese folklore indicates Shinobu's significance in this story.
That and you're 2 more arcs away from what is probably one of my favorite arcs in the series, if not my favorite.
Well, I think Koyomi ending a conversation with Mayoi in Route X and then walks away, really had a deeper meaning other than Mayoi didn't even know Koyomi in Route X or himself.
I. Love. Mayoi.
I connect with the character and their not lack of direction but complete directionlessness; drastic changes happening to me rather than being chosen.
@12:36 holy cow, that's Mariana Trench level of deepness.
Hmm, I like your analysis videos, but I think the final point of this video felt a little obvious. Of the debate between purely existence and purely essence, you arrive at the conclusion that we posses some immutable character, but we are largely shaped by our choices and experiences. This does not seem to be a particularly surprising or creative point in my opinion.
slight spoilers for the rest of the Monogatari Second Season and Tsukimonogatari:
If you wanted to discuss Sartre, I would think that a discussion on the nature of apparitions in Monogatari might be a better tie into his philosophy. For example, most of Shinobu's story involves the tension between acting like a vampire and acting like a god, and if everyone believes she is a god, she no longer becomes a vampire. Yet, why does the darkness come instead of she actually becoming a god? in Tsukimonogatari, Araragi is in danger of becoming a vampire because is exists as one too easily. This deals with apparitions, so what are apparitions even supposed to represent within the story of monogatari? I feel like these questions would have been more interesting deal with.
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thanks UTS
at times, it’s kinda easy to hate the "me" I have become, so yah, really needed this
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don’t regret the past that has made you, "you". don’t worry; this "now" is where you belong. there is still much more to look forward to, much more that will continue to mold you, so just keep moving forward, as yourself (12:37 - 13:26).