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The inverse isn’t “powerless” it’s contentment. IOW, you can only control the things you can control. That’s where they keep going wrong. Control freaks
@@unsolicitedadvice9198it’s definitely become one of mine. I’ve been trying to get back into studying philosophy and often find I don’t know where to start. Your vids offer a great place to start learning. Thank you!
I got you, here Yukiglizention - it means to glance across snow as it glints Another one? Shayblat - Moment of panic when you can't find something in your pockets
Much of life spent online is like living like Pechorin - shallowness, playing games, exercising illusory power, yearning for connection - but otherwise avoiding vulnerability of of the real world, of real human interaction or seeing the physical world as it is and other people in the flesh. It might be that the warning is for any thinking human - not just young men.
Offt! That line "in avoiding the possibility of any sharp wounds, he is condemning himself to a dull existential ache" hits hard. It used to be my modus operandi in my late teens/early twenties when making friendships etc. Life was really just going through the motions, every day was just monotone. Defs a throwback!
Great analysis! Our generation chose to experiment with the superfluous lifestyle, to see if it can overcome the problems of moral responsibility. The problem with life is that you can never tell for sure, you can only speculate on the consequences. Thank you for adding more depth to my thought! The notion of detachment to cope with the fear of living will stick with me for some time.
You are not only incredibly helpful with the range of topics you cover, giving insight in and inspiration to various philosophical topics and making philosophy tangible for less invested audiences, but also in conveying vocabulary and expressions resulting in a steep learning curve for non-natives, I am deeply grateful for your brilliant content
Interesting point about the pursuit of power and hedonism. I then realized the Hendonistic and Epicurean lifestyle was opposed by Stoics such as Xeno & Seneca. I guess in Pacourin's quest for power, he gave up the power of deciding his own contentedness since power to him was an externality outside of his control. Now I understand why Marcus Aurelius said, "the obstacle is the way". The obstacle is yourself, the way forward is through yourself and not the externalities that we seek to control but will always be out of our grasp.
if the game is rigged against you .then the winning move either to not play....or become strong enough to destroy the game. Most men are choosing first option..and honestly it seems wise choice.
@@jehorigby8778 lol bruh nice assumptions abkut me...I have more adventures and can say live a life which kind of most will love to...... doesn't changes the plain truth tho. Had i been younger in today's world...my life wiuld have been way way more difficult. The jobs are rigged due to diversity quotas, the laws and courts are rigged against u...media & movies endlessly target u. In such a situation a young man can try to 'seek greatness' and they should.....however endlessly applying jobs or trying businesses bound to not give enough money aint worth it. Greatness can be achieved by letting system biased against u to collapse🙂
@Giantcrabz I agree they are not the same. One embraces the good life and the other says things are out of our control so we should do what we want to anyways. Stoicism simply challenges Epicureanism in saying that yes, things are out of our control, but we should be measured either way.
😅 Right? I think it’s important to cultivate inner value and worth but our communities are also just as important. I hope we can find a way to balance the two because I think they’re both important to a full human existence.
Goes hand in hand with a lack of shame. Most self care seems to be about, self love instead of improvement. Fat acceptance culture is a cherry example. It's fine being okay with who you are in terms of not hating yourself but flipping it on its head and claiming unhealthy is healthy and ugly is beauty is so toxic.
Self love and caring for others is not mutually exclusive. We need to emphasize that caring for others is form of self love - and can be some of the most rewarding.
@@theboombodyagreed, but in the end we have to move on and realize that just because we care about someone it doesn't mean that they're obligated to care about us. They have no responsibility to be decent and kind to us in return. We must be decent and kind because we want to and if someone wants to return that with rudeness or ambivalence, we must simply move on. It's not our duty to change them.
In Assassin's Creed, there's the man Altair, who's achievements for the assassin's brotherhood are astronomical. From becoming a master assassin at age 24, to helping kill Gengis khan, to having a great family life, to living till 92, then for centuries afterwards being hailed as the hero of the assassins, he lived a fulfilling life seemingly. In his final days, he wrote in his journals that all of his achievements were meaningless and empty to him. He seemed really pained by this. He then died a bit later. My question here is how did a man achieve so many great things and still feel like his life was meaningless?
I have been reading Russian novels for a year now. My friend asked me why and I told him they are beyond storytelling and are unlike many stories. There seems to be so much thought put in each story and character. It also helps the reader to see the state and nature of the country at the time of writing and how the writer perceived it. And the philosophical aspect of it is marvelous. In one book you get a good story, philosophy, sociology, and even history. I am fascinated by this and I will probably be reading Russian novels next year too.
Honestly as a psychology graduate, i can tell you that you are right on spot about everything in this video. It's great that you made it. It will help lots of people as I think we are all struggling with this as a society, females including me too. especially point number 4....
11:22 That's true of nearly ALL the ways we think of "how people are". When someone tells you how people are, they're telling you how THEY are. So it seems wise to more carefully curate how we view others - we can't help but be talking also about ourselves.
I won't bash the red pill community, it just baffles me that we had all those philosophers and writers, all those books and wisdom, which required so many years of study/contemplation and people just simply want to follow a random dude that got to the top and who is misusing them for his own popularity to be on the alpha top. How dare you.
Jesus was crucified, Socrates drank the hemlock. And all those philosophers are being torn down by academics as "old dead white dudes." So you can only find philosophy by accident. And studying philosophy as a degree is a one way ticket to the unemployment line. Or, you could listen to someone who has success that you can see. I agree that following the Andrew Tates of the world is a mistake, but I can understand why people do
Do you want the philosophers results, death and poverty, or to succeed. Only a religious level devotion can help someone feel satisfaction with less than prosperity.
@@mitchellstanding1548 you can be prosperous or having a mid life or be poor and still have a chunk of wisdom. That's why it's great. You've got wise men from all those classes. What you've got as a top priority matters.
@@vivien7586 that's true, Epictetus did well, as did Marcus Arileus, but no one really teaches this to the average youth. I found philosophy because I inherited an old book by accident.
Wonderful video my guy!! The ideas you discussed really spoke to me on a personal level and really made me confront many decisions I have been making in my day to day life. I feel that your video has made me experience some amount of personal growth!! Keep it up and i hope for more such wonderful videos in the future ❤
I'd argue that there are many things people strive for in life but one need that almost everyone has: acknowledgement. We all need social interaction to live, even if the intensity and frequence required might differ from person to person. A child requires attention, ackowledgement of oneselves existence and needs, from others to survive. So a child's experience around their parents and/or social circle shapes the way they perceive themselves, structure the world around them and what behavioural strategies to develop to be acknowledged. These developments grow around the way the child was cared for, neglected, needs met. If child is a boy and told at a young age that boys don't cry and the child learns that crying is shamefull. Something he is not supposed to do as he is a boy. To cry is to fail the expectations of the people that cared for you. This concepts develops further and adds new ideas to what a boy or man should do, pur definition of masculinity as societal expectation. An influence that grows more and more important as one goes through adolescence. Men are often emotionally neglected. They need to learn that acknowledgement is based on how well good you are at performing your function in society as a man. Which ironically requires other emotional needs to be neglected and pushed down as well. The desire to not care is stemming from the frustration of having all kinds of emotions they never learned how to deal with in a healthy manner. Just shut them up and don't care. Perform without requiring acknowledgement. Which, as stated, is not possible as our greatest need. But the deception is appealing.
As someone who sincerely begun to care too little about all things in life, perhaps for being too afraid of desiring things and losing or failing to get them, I can say that the main effect is a terrible lack of motivation to do pursue any kind of long term goal. I do feel in complete control of my feelings, except one, which is the frustration of not feeling control of my actions since I'm too unmotivated to move towards anything.
These types of videos I swear TH-cam knows just speak to me now. As I’m going into my mid 20s I’ve come to fucking hate everyone and everything and it’s all pisses me off and the anxiety of it all just makes me physically sick constantly.
I was like that in my mid to late 20s. Thought I had it all figured out with a nihilistic misanthropic smirk... I'm 52 now and a whole ton of stuff has happened in the intervening years to make me realise that attitude is bollox.
I'm 41, it's just hard for me these days to make new meaningful friendships or to keep in touch regularly with good old friends who either live far away or are not so good friends anymore.
You can either stew in self pity or take steps to address it. There are infinite volunteer opportunities, community theaters, churches, parks, places filled with people with whom you will have at least that place in common. The lie of our generation (I am also 41) is that manly silent suffering is somehow courageous. It’s neither courageous nor manly. It’s pathetic. Be courageous and make yourself vulnerable enough for someone to want to know.
I lost half my old 'liberal' college friends in 2016 because of a certain event, and the other half in 2020 because of a certain event. You can probably guess what I am referring to. Anyway, I made new friends who are more in line with my values. It can be done if you are honest with yourself and others and are no longer prepared to 'go along to get along'.
@@addammadd thanks, believe I'm trying, but perhaps I'm just too special, demanding or idealistic. I think that living in a big city doesn't help, it should be in theory easier to find interesting and cool people compared to a small town, but the reality is that everyone is quite busy and kind of volatile. Besides, I believe that creating a deep connection with someone when you are older is very hard compared to adolescence or college years.
I think this desperation comes from not deeply connecting with anything, a feeling of not fully experienced a "thing," a bit like an OCD. I've played many video games (probably 500+) over my lifetime, but only fully completed and deeply immersed in a few games, and it consumed my every attention and time. To name a few; The Witcher 3, Resident Evil 4, and Team Fortress 2. Because of that, I chased those highs ever since, but not being able to find it frequently. Sometimes it happens, it happened with Elden Ring in 2022, also Tears of the Kingdom in 2023.
@@Dimitris_Half In my experience, it was the same with real life. Relationships, work, and social status. I had few surface level relationships, and some dead end jobs. But it never fulfilled me. The problem might not be that it's video games or real life, but in finding that one special thing you love, becoming fully vulnerable and feeling connected deeply with it. I feel like the only way our search ends is when we die.
AMAZING VIDEO! I'm still an absurdist tho. The whole point of connection and emotional fulfilment and all the jazz is to somehow generate meaning in your life and not to feel alone, and I rather give up my need for meaning altogether than cope with a placebo.
You need to read Camus again. Say, try The Plague, or his book about Sisyphus. Meaning making is a creative act. And if that all we can comfort ourselves with whilst whizzing through space on a lump of dirt, which in time will be swallowed up by the Sun in its death throes, charred to nothing, and rendered back to atoms as the Sun goes supernova... Well, we can imagine Sisiphus happy, because all we have is now. And whatever qualitatively improves that experience for us and those around us, then that's good enough. Absurdism is not about not caring. It's about caring enough not to increase suffering unnecessarily. Life might be a one and done deal, but the quality of the experience is everything. Thus we as Sisyphus can be happy as we roll our bolder.
@@CuriousCrow-mp4cx I thought absurdism was about recognizing and accepting the reality of meaninglessness and living content without trying to mask it.
@@remiremsar5946 I'm not too familiar, but I thought the point was to recognize that there was no external standard of meaning that holds up, but then to forge some yourself proudly forward, instead of meandering in that lack of meaning and having pity for it (not saying you are).
@@georget.5048 That's existentialism, you are thinking of Jean-Paul Sartre, not Albert Camus. When you realize life has no meaning you have three paths to choose. NIHILISM: "Life has no meaning" "I know" EXISTENTIALISM: "Life has no meaning" "I'll make one myself" ABSURDISM: "Life has no meaning" "I don't give a fuck"
I dont think we should stop trusting everyone like protagonist did. I think we should put minimal trust in others and slowly increase it unless they prove to be unworthy. then if we are lucky at the end of it we will gain true companions.
Joe, I appreciate your amazing work and I'd love it if you created an Instagram handle. It'll be great to know what you're up to. Or you can just make regular community posts. Please do consider this. Keep up the good work :)
Good video and insights! I've never been much of a reader but the way you explain the lessons/Philosophy makes me want to read because I wonder what kind of insights I would have myself. I find having similar insights difficult because I usually don't judge anyone's life. The way Pechorin leads his life doesn't particularly strike me as bad because I do not know what a good life looks like. Hence, I can understand his strategy of "living". It is funny how he has FOMO but misses out on most of what life has to offer by not actually interacting with people on a deeper level. However, the temporary joys of life that Pechorin has achieved are usually things that people envy! Is it not possible that he has enjoyed life plenty even if it wasn't in depth? You'll miss out on certain things in life either way, whether you want it or not!
The fear of abandonment is where some values of stoicism can be applied, right? I mean we shouldn't be scared to appear vulnerable, but when the time does come and things don't work out, wouldn't it be prudent to think that "I did my best, what happened is out of my control?" I find stoicism a bit too inward focused or even selfish, but it does have its uses from time to time.
I'm learning I understand . Those with no respect for others besides manipulation for use . Free with no conscience no regret whatsoever are happy Sadistic . Those who feel conscience often have to clean up after them Discordance will always continue to exist balance of life .
4:30 I already do that. It's 50/50 on making friends and enemies, because the way I see it, some people can respect brutal honesty because it's genuine and they won't expect me to lie, on the other hand, there're people in my experience who want to be listened but can't stand listening to others, and so will do their best to silence me because the truth hurts them, or more accurately, hearing me not agree with them makes them already not tolerating me. What do I think? Frankly, I don't give a damn, everyone's my enemy until I make the exception of making you my friend, because I don't respect groups, I respect individuals with depth and usefulness instead of a herd of sheep who keep repeating what they see and hear on the internet like a bunch of propaganda parrots.
When I die, the world as I can feel and interact with ceases to exist. How can there be something bigger than myself in such a world? What joy can we feel exerting power over a bunch of tools? We can connect with cats and dogs. We can care about fiction, books, movies, games and food. Those are perfectly safe. Whether it’s a species problem or a societal problem (most likely a societal one) I can’t say, but humans seem to be the only things not safe to care about. So there’s plenty of safe fun to Be had.
Pechorn sounds like he has an avoidant attachment style. An avoidantly attached person avoids emotional intimacy. At some point in the avoidant person's childhood, he or she trusted someone, such as a parent, and was betrayed. The betrayal felt so damaging that all emotional connections were seen as suspect. However, it is possible to have secure attachment. To go from a fear of feeling too close to others to a secure attachment, we have to reparent the inner child. Every child needs unconditional understanding. Be that as it may, there isn't a child alive that feels completely understood. Thus, in order to make our inner child secure, we have to understand what he or she needs. We have to talk to our inner children and ask why are you afraid. Most of the time, it all comes down to death. We are all afraid of dying and that fear makes us feel out of control. Gaining control is done in many ways, the Enneagram explains nine different coping mechanisms. Each way of coping can be unhealthy or healthy. Healthy comes when we realize that in order to become adults, we have to realize that at any moment at any time we could die. When we realize that no matter what we do death is uncompromisable, we can relax. After a time, we are no longer afraid of death so we have no need to display any trappings of power. Women, who have less status and less power in today's world, realize at around age twelve that men see them as either a sult or a nurturing figure. Women don't get to be anything other than sexy or a mother, so we let go of our egos early on. Even though women know we need each other, we belittle each other's looks and put each other down. We do so out of a need to not feel vulnerable. Many women feel lonely because in womanhood, our worth is based on male acceptance. Those women who are socially approved of, the good looking, have better outcomes in their lives than the ugly women. Men have the same thing with power. Men who have power have better outcomes than men without power. All the same, all of this is silly. Once the absurdity of life is seen, no man or woman can ever care about who is deemed worthy or not worthy. Life is just life and death comes in the end for everyone. It is through the acceptance of death that we finally grow up and connect with life.
This video was amazingly fascinating, as is something that I often notice as a girl. Anyone who uses social media regularly will eventually find these videos from "Gurus" from men to "help" them be "better" "stronger" or more masculine, oftentimes making them feel like women are manipulative beings, and isolating them to only themselves or their reassuring circles. It is sad to think how much influence those false gurus have, and how damaging it is for young men. They get more bitter and sometimes it feels like they are at war, either with women or with themselves. I admire your approach and your message, the type of healthy masculinity -I would even dare call it true masculinity- you are promoting is exactly what men need to hear. Joseph, your work is truly wonderful and valuable, we can't thank you enough.
Typical female response. Not acknowledging that much of this malaise is in response to the dispicable behavior of your kind. As they say, accountability is kryptonite to women.
Objection, the three temptations are parables for one's connection to God, one's belief in God, and one's loyalty to God. It paints an anti-vision of each 'chakra' in Abrahamic spirituality.
Yes that's literally me minus the no values part. I keep all my relationships at arms length because I'm afraid to be hurt. But HOW DO WE FIX IT. I know that I'm not living but I can't bring myself to do otherwise. Any tips from other recovering superfluous people would be much appreciated
Had the book you talk about for a while but ended up tossing it before reading it and now thinking maybe I shouldn’t have. I’m pretty sure Alexander the Great also killed his best friend but since he was drunk out of his mind at the time maybe it could count as a mitigating factor in his defense. No one would want to have a friend if they had known his real nature but fortunately he is a fictional character while Alexander is not. I was a fan of Nietzsche for a long time until I found out he was a chronic practitioner of solo sex and couldn’t see how that fit into his self-overcoming idea. Anyway in the US now there are supposed to be seven million men of prime working age who have given up on work and aren’t even looking for a job but I don’t think their issues have much to do with this literary character or even fear of vulnerability but still an interesting discussion. Be well.⚛️❤
Personally speaking, I don't find the careless anti-hero or villain necessarily compelling or resonant. Rather, I find the anti-hero or villain who cares too much about a few things or even everything particularly compelling and resonant.
It's kinda funny. Just before you started talking about the suggestion of some that men like Pechorin are feeling a "god shaped hole", I was thinking about how much the Bible god character reads just like one of these superfluous men. Especially at that part about trying to maintain a sort of environment of perfect control. When you think about what kinds of people authored and redacted the Bible, there were probably a fair number of them who fit this superfluous mold. Stretch that out to a people group who spent most of their history in a vassal relationship to larger groups and suddenly Bible god makes a whole lot of sense as a character who is often petty, deceitful and demanding of attention while forever remaining aloof. It's not so much that Pechorin and superfluous men have a god shaped hole in their heart but that Bible god came to reflect the self image of superfluous men. The fact that these traits are deemed to be such a good thing as to be elevated to divinity is highly suggestive, given the intervening ~3k years of human history since the formation of the Torah and now.
I feel like Pechorin. I don’t care about anything, and I don’t like it. I don’t know how not to be though. I’ve told people how I feel, and they said they envy me; they wish they could care so little, as it would make their life easier, but for me, it makes it empty. Does someone get to choose whether they care? I’ve tried to before and it just doesn’t happen. How do I get myself to? How do I get through the fact that caring is more painful than not caring?
You seem to possess capacity for profound reflection. Whatever path you choose in life, try not to sacrifice all of it in exchange for an increase in decisiveness. It will allow for a correction of pointlessly rigid course.
I don't believe in self-love. Only in self-acceptance as the baseline followed by desire to improve self. True love can only be for another, not for self. By the time we mean it with actual "self-love," we risk self-absorption, narcissism, inability to connect, and simply missing out on the most amazing parts of the human experience, which is connection with a few special others. I also don't believe in universal love, agape, and all that "humanity" nonsense. No such thing. People of quality are inherently selective, discerning, and discriminatory. We love some people and a few intensely, we like others, we are indifferent to a large number, and hate what's hate-able. With the latter, we seek to remove from our life in some way, then move on without another thought.
i love the solution the Bible / God offers -> do your best / your part, aiming at loving and serving others and God. And do not worry beyond that, God will use it to manifest the best good for his purposes through you by that (f.e. Matthew 22:36-40, Proverbs 3:5-6). Which from a christian perspektive is the highest good to aim for I believe Happy to be critiqued, about my statement and learn
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The inverse isn’t “powerless” it’s contentment.
IOW, you can only control the things you can control.
That’s where they keep going wrong. Control freaks
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Ah thank you! That is very kind of you!
@@unsolicitedadvice9198it’s definitely become one of mine. I’ve been trying to get back into studying philosophy and often find I don’t know where to start. Your vids offer a great place to start learning. Thank you!
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Here to learn new words to add to my vocabulary
Just read a lot of books and write down any words you like and try to use them more often
I got you, here Yukiglizention - it means to glance across snow as it glints
Another one?
Shayblat - Moment of panic when you can't find something in your pockets
@@jehorigby8778 How does one use these in normal conversation?
@@MagnificentlyHighAlien That's the fun part: you don't
@@SocratesToCicero You can, especially Shayblat, though nobody will understand what you're saying, lol
Your output is insane
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You should be more open minded.
@@MisterPerson-fk1tx it was a joke dawg
@@MisterPerson-fk1tx To what? To unsolicited advice? You should try being less imposing. You know, less of a fascist?
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Oh my goddddd you’re one of THOSE people 🤦♂️
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access he was just sticking up for me?
Much of life spent online is like living like Pechorin - shallowness, playing games, exercising illusory power, yearning for connection - but otherwise avoiding vulnerability of of the real world, of real human interaction or seeing the physical world as it is and other people in the flesh. It might be that the warning is for any thinking human - not just young men.
What if you're a misanthrope? I really put no weight and have 0 faith in human relationships. I don't miss anyone.
Offt! That line "in avoiding the possibility of any sharp wounds, he is condemning himself to a dull existential ache" hits hard. It used to be my modus operandi in my late teens/early twenties when making friendships etc. Life was really just going through the motions, every day was just monotone. Defs a throwback!
Great analysis! Our generation chose to experiment with the superfluous lifestyle, to see if it can overcome the problems of moral responsibility. The problem with life is that you can never tell for sure, you can only speculate on the consequences. Thank you for adding more depth to my thought! The notion of detachment to cope with the fear of living will stick with me for some time.
You are not only incredibly helpful with the range of topics you cover, giving insight in and inspiration to various philosophical topics and making philosophy tangible for less invested audiences, but also in conveying vocabulary and expressions resulting in a steep learning curve for non-natives, I am deeply grateful for your brilliant content
I am saving your vids as unsolicited advices for my future kids, just letting you know
Great channel, you really deserve more subscribers
Thank you! That's very kind
This channel is a ray of light for a bewildered generation.
Thank you, Joe.
Interesting point about the pursuit of power and hedonism. I then realized the Hendonistic and Epicurean lifestyle was opposed by Stoics such as Xeno & Seneca.
I guess in Pacourin's quest for power, he gave up the power of deciding his own contentedness since power to him was an externality outside of his control.
Now I understand why Marcus Aurelius said, "the obstacle is the way". The obstacle is yourself, the way forward is through yourself and not the externalities that we seek to control but will always be out of our grasp.
if the game is rigged against you .then the winning move either to not play....or become strong enough to destroy the game.
Most men are choosing first option..and honestly it seems wise choice.
@@NoOne-kx7zsEasy to hate, hard to love.
Go out and have adventure. You live in your head too much
@@jehorigby8778 lol bruh nice assumptions abkut me...I have more adventures and can say live a life which kind of most will love to...... doesn't changes the plain truth tho.
Had i been younger in today's world...my life wiuld have been way way more difficult.
The jobs are rigged due to diversity quotas, the laws and courts are rigged against u...media & movies endlessly target u.
In such a situation a young man can try to 'seek greatness' and they should.....however endlessly applying jobs or trying businesses bound to not give enough money aint worth it.
Greatness can be achieved by letting system biased against u to collapse🙂
Epicureanism as hedonism is the most annoying philosophy misrepresentation
@Giantcrabz I agree they are not the same. One embraces the good life and the other says things are out of our control so we should do what we want to anyways. Stoicism simply challenges Epicureanism in saying that yes, things are out of our control, but we should be measured either way.
Caring for only oneself is an epidemic today, the self love ideology has gone way too far I think
😅 Right? I think it’s important to cultivate inner value and worth but our communities are also just as important. I hope we can find a way to balance the two because I think they’re both important to a full human existence.
Goes hand in hand with a lack of shame. Most self care seems to be about, self love instead of improvement. Fat acceptance culture is a cherry example. It's fine being okay with who you are in terms of not hating yourself but flipping it on its head and claiming unhealthy is healthy and ugly is beauty is so toxic.
@@nathanrosman-bakehouse359 fat acceptance has its place. Mocking obese people doesn't help them get better
There is a difference between self love like not beating yourself down for everything you do and becoming the kind of person talked about in the video
Self love and caring for others is not mutually exclusive. We need to emphasize that caring for others is form of self love - and can be some of the most rewarding.
Yay another unsolicited advice video!!
Ah you are very kind! Thank you!
I found that opening quote too relatable.
I dont like who im becoming, but I cant seem to stop.
Anyway, fantastic video, love your channel.
Yo! One of my favourite poems. Thanks for shedding more light on it!
Ah that's wonderful! It is a fantastic work!
yes, carelessness is very tempting. the ability to not care about anything and anyone in life sounds so good
Why?
Caring about others is definitely a big risk. Because many will not appreciate it.
@@theboombodyagreed, but in the end we have to move on and realize that just because we care about someone it doesn't mean that they're obligated to care about us. They have no responsibility to be decent and kind to us in return. We must be decent and kind because we want to and if someone wants to return that with rudeness or ambivalence, we must simply move on. It's not our duty to change them.
In Assassin's Creed, there's the man Altair, who's achievements for the assassin's brotherhood are astronomical. From becoming a master assassin at age 24, to helping kill Gengis khan, to having a great family life, to living till 92, then for centuries afterwards being hailed as the hero of the assassins, he lived a fulfilling life seemingly. In his final days, he wrote in his journals that all of his achievements were meaningless and empty to him. He seemed really pained by this. He then died a bit later. My question here is how did a man achieve so many great things and still feel like his life was meaningless?
because caring about other people is way more fulfilling than the tiresome trope that we find meaning through violence
Yeah that's true, but he did care for people though. He led a family life with a wife and child, so I don't know how he still wasn't fulfilled
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For some men, it’s just never enough. That’s why it’s important to have ambition and inner peace in equal measures.
What is the value of achievement?
@@zacharybosley1935 The fulfillment of Christ's will and purpose through whatever ambition one chooses to give himself over to. That's how I see it.
0:21 literally me
search and find or blame life
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I have been reading Russian novels for a year now. My friend asked me why and I told him they are beyond storytelling and are unlike many stories.
There seems to be so much thought put in each story and character. It also helps the reader to see the state and nature of the country at the time of writing and how the writer perceived it. And the philosophical aspect of it is marvelous.
In one book you get a good story, philosophy, sociology, and even history. I am fascinated by this and I will probably be reading Russian novels next year too.
This is my new favorite youtube channel! The only thing holding it back, in the slightest, is that it aint on spotify
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Great vid.
You should put these on Spotify
Honestly as a psychology graduate, i can tell you that you are right on spot about everything in this video. It's great that you made it. It will help lots of people as I think we are all struggling with this as a society, females including me too. especially point number 4....
I'm going to do something I almost never do for any video: like, comment & share.
More people need to hear this dude's take on things.
Wonderful analysis. So many high quality components and perspectives, presented in an entertaining manner!
Would love for you to cover the nihilistic works of Osamu Dazai
I like the Junji Ito manga adaptation of No Longer Human
Listening to your voice explain these topics is remarkably soothing
It's quite impressive how you're able to post such a high quality content so frequently
11:22 That's true of nearly ALL the ways we think of "how people are". When someone tells you how people are, they're telling you how THEY are. So it seems wise to more carefully curate how we view others - we can't help but be talking also about ourselves.
I won't bash the red pill community, it just baffles me that we had all those philosophers and writers, all those books and wisdom, which required so many years of study/contemplation and people just simply want to follow a random dude that got to the top and who is misusing them for his own popularity to be on the alpha top. How dare you.
Jesus was crucified, Socrates drank the hemlock. And all those philosophers are being torn down by academics as "old dead white dudes." So you can only find philosophy by accident. And studying philosophy as a degree is a one way ticket to the unemployment line. Or, you could listen to someone who has success that you can see. I agree that following the Andrew Tates of the world is a mistake, but I can understand why people do
Do you want the philosophers results, death and poverty, or to succeed. Only a religious level devotion can help someone feel satisfaction with less than prosperity.
@@mitchellstanding1548 you can be prosperous or having a mid life or be poor and still have a chunk of wisdom. That's why it's great. You've got wise men from all those classes. What you've got as a top priority matters.
@@vivien7586 that's true, Epictetus did well, as did Marcus Arileus, but no one really teaches this to the average youth. I found philosophy because I inherited an old book by accident.
@@mitchellstanding1548 wish you good life, man 👍 spread goodness
I read a poorly translated English version of this book and never really understood it
Great video
I get so excited when I see the notification you have posted, stellar analysis, as usual
Wonderful video my guy!! The ideas you discussed really spoke to me on a personal level and really made me confront many decisions I have been making in my day to day life. I feel that your video has made me experience some amount of personal growth!! Keep it up and i hope for more such wonderful videos in the future ❤
Woman here!! I absolutely love your content ❤excellent video.
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Excited to watch this video 😋
Ah I hope you like it!
Hey, I have discovered your videos a few weeks ago. They are amazing and I hope you continue making them for a long time!
Oh, I've been waiting for this book review!
I'd argue that there are many things people strive for in life but one need that almost everyone has: acknowledgement.
We all need social interaction to live, even if the intensity and frequence required might differ from person to person.
A child requires attention, ackowledgement of oneselves existence and needs, from others to survive. So a child's experience around their parents and/or social circle shapes the way they perceive themselves, structure the world around them and what behavioural strategies to develop to be acknowledged. These developments grow around the way the child was cared for, neglected, needs met.
If child is a boy and told at a young age that boys don't cry and the child learns that crying is shamefull. Something he is not supposed to do as he is a boy. To cry is to fail the expectations of the people that cared for you.
This concepts develops further and adds new ideas to what a boy or man should do, pur definition of masculinity as societal expectation. An influence that grows more and more important as one goes through adolescence.
Men are often emotionally neglected. They need to learn that acknowledgement is based on how well good you are at performing your function in society as a man. Which ironically requires other emotional needs to be neglected and pushed down as well.
The desire to not care is stemming from the frustration of having all kinds of emotions they never learned how to deal with in a healthy manner. Just shut them up and don't care. Perform without requiring acknowledgement. Which, as stated, is not possible as our greatest need. But the deception is appealing.
Great video as always Joe. I hope you're feeling much better man 😊
Thank you a lot for the analysis and ideas.
Absolutely briliant! It was a joy listening to this.
As someone who sincerely begun to care too little about all things in life, perhaps for being too afraid of desiring things and losing or failing to get them, I can say that the main effect is a terrible lack of motivation to do pursue any kind of long term goal.
I do feel in complete control of my feelings, except one, which is the frustration of not feeling control of my actions since I'm too unmotivated to move towards anything.
These types of videos I swear TH-cam knows just speak to me now. As I’m going into my mid 20s I’ve come to fucking hate everyone and everything and it’s all pisses me off and the anxiety of it all just makes me physically sick constantly.
It will numb you eventually, I hope, (ill be 30 in a day)
I was like that in my mid to late 20s. Thought I had it all figured out with a nihilistic misanthropic smirk... I'm 52 now and a whole ton of stuff has happened in the intervening years to make me realise that attitude is bollox.
I'm 41, it's just hard for me these days to make new meaningful friendships or to keep in touch regularly with good old friends who either live far away or are not so good friends anymore.
You can either stew in self pity or take steps to address it. There are infinite volunteer opportunities, community theaters, churches, parks, places filled with people with whom you will have at least that place in common.
The lie of our generation (I am also 41) is that manly silent suffering is somehow courageous. It’s neither courageous nor manly. It’s pathetic. Be courageous and make yourself vulnerable enough for someone to want to know.
I lost half my old 'liberal' college friends in 2016 because of a certain event, and the other half in 2020 because of a certain event. You can probably guess what I am referring to. Anyway, I made new friends who are more in line with my values. It can be done if you are honest with yourself and others and are no longer prepared to 'go along to get along'.
@@addammadd thanks, believe I'm trying, but perhaps I'm just too special, demanding or idealistic. I think that living in a big city doesn't help, it should be in theory easier to find interesting and cool people compared to a small town, but the reality is that everyone is quite busy and kind of volatile. Besides, I believe that creating a deep connection with someone when you are older is very hard compared to adolescence or college years.
Ah i love diary of a superflous man. Excited to read this lermontov book
bro thank you for motivation i really get motivation from your
I enjoy each of ur videos bro
The quote at the beginning, I felt it.
Beautiful video as always.
Friendship is the biggest thing that people don't talk about enough especially when they act like relationship guru's on the internet.
I think this desperation comes from not deeply connecting with anything, a feeling of not fully experienced a "thing," a bit like an OCD. I've played many video games (probably 500+) over my lifetime, but only fully completed and deeply immersed in a few games, and it consumed my every attention and time. To name a few; The Witcher 3, Resident Evil 4, and Team Fortress 2. Because of that, I chased those highs ever since, but not being able to find it frequently. Sometimes it happens, it happened with Elden Ring in 2022, also Tears of the Kingdom in 2023.
Yes, the problem is too many games. Life lies outside my friend
@@Dimitris_Half Life is only more games, primarily of power and status. You're not missing much.
@dontforget3113 Exactly, and the real thing is incomprehensibly better than video games. LETS GO 💪
@@Dimitris_Half In my experience, it was the same with real life. Relationships, work, and social status. I had few surface level relationships, and some dead end jobs. But it never fulfilled me. The problem might not be that it's video games or real life, but in finding that one special thing you love, becoming fully vulnerable and feeling connected deeply with it. I feel like the only way our search ends is when we die.
That intro quote summerize my life.
skill issue
Wonderful as always. 🎉
AMAZING VIDEO! I'm still an absurdist tho. The whole point of connection and emotional fulfilment and all the jazz is to somehow generate meaning in your life and not to feel alone, and I rather give up my need for meaning altogether than cope with a placebo.
You need to read Camus again. Say, try The Plague, or his book about Sisyphus. Meaning making is a creative act. And if that all we can comfort ourselves with whilst whizzing through space on a lump of dirt, which in time will be swallowed up by the Sun in its death throes, charred to nothing, and rendered back to atoms as the Sun goes supernova... Well, we can imagine Sisiphus happy, because all we have is now. And whatever qualitatively improves that experience for us and those around us, then that's good enough.
Absurdism is not about not caring. It's about caring enough not to increase suffering unnecessarily. Life might be a one and done deal, but the quality of the experience is everything. Thus we as Sisyphus can be happy as we roll our bolder.
@@CuriousCrow-mp4cx I thought absurdism was about recognizing and accepting the reality of meaninglessness and living content without trying to mask it.
@@remiremsar5946 I'm not too familiar, but I thought the point was to recognize that there was no external standard of meaning that holds up, but then to forge some yourself proudly forward, instead of meandering in that lack of meaning and having pity for it (not saying you are).
@@georget.5048 That's existentialism, you are thinking of Jean-Paul Sartre, not Albert Camus.
When you realize life has no meaning you have three paths to choose.
NIHILISM:
"Life has no meaning" "I know"
EXISTENTIALISM:
"Life has no meaning" "I'll make one myself"
ABSURDISM:
"Life has no meaning" "I don't give a fuck"
its always a good day when Joe uploads (:
I dont think we should stop trusting everyone like protagonist did. I think we should put minimal trust in others and slowly increase it unless they prove to be unworthy. then if we are lucky at the end of it we will gain true companions.
Remember that a man's environment shapes his soul, as much as his own choices.
God I love you content. Beautifully summarized.
Joe, I appreciate your amazing work and I'd love it if you created an Instagram handle. It'll be great to know what you're up to.
Or you can just make regular community posts. Please do consider this.
Keep up the good work :)
Wow. You’ve done this novel 🎉
This applies to men and women
You can always careless it is an achievable goal.
Well done.
Good video and insights! I've never been much of a reader but the way you explain the lessons/Philosophy makes me want to read because I wonder what kind of insights I would have myself.
I find having similar insights difficult because I usually don't judge anyone's life. The way Pechorin leads his life doesn't particularly strike me as bad because I do not know what a good life looks like. Hence, I can understand his strategy of "living". It is funny how he has FOMO but misses out on most of what life has to offer by not actually interacting with people on a deeper level. However, the temporary joys of life that Pechorin has achieved are usually things that people envy! Is it not possible that he has enjoyed life plenty even if it wasn't in depth? You'll miss out on certain things in life either way, whether you want it or not!
The fear of abandonment is where some values of stoicism can be applied, right? I mean we shouldn't be scared to appear vulnerable, but when the time does come and things don't work out, wouldn't it be prudent to think that "I did my best, what happened is out of my control?"
I find stoicism a bit too inward focused or even selfish, but it does have its uses from time to time.
This feels like it coincides with the debate on whether or not we have free will and hypocrisy.
What a way to intro the video!
I'm learning
I understand .
Those with no respect for others besides manipulation for use .
Free with no conscience no regret whatsoever are happy Sadistic .
Those who feel conscience often have to clean up after them
Discordance will always continue to exist
balance of life .
I love these videos of yours
Ah thank you! I am really glad you are enjoying them
4:30 I already do that. It's 50/50 on making friends and enemies, because the way I see it, some people can respect brutal honesty because it's genuine and they won't expect me to lie, on the other hand, there're people in my experience who want to be listened but can't stand listening to others, and so will do their best to silence me because the truth hurts them, or more accurately, hearing me not agree with them makes them already not tolerating me.
What do I think? Frankly, I don't give a damn, everyone's my enemy until I make the exception of making you my friend, because I don't respect groups, I respect individuals with depth and usefulness instead of a herd of sheep who keep repeating what they see and hear on the internet like a bunch of propaganda parrots.
When I die, the world as I can feel and interact with ceases to exist. How can there be something bigger than myself in such a world? What joy can we feel exerting power over a bunch of tools?
We can connect with cats and dogs. We can care about fiction, books, movies, games and food. Those are perfectly safe. Whether it’s a species problem or a societal problem (most likely a societal one) I can’t say, but humans seem to be the only things not safe to care about. So there’s plenty of safe fun to
Be had.
I can’t care about others because they won’t ever care about me. I tried and it’s all good that they don’t, you can’t force anything in life
And my Amazon list of books to read grows again...
an outstanding video
It came out 30 seconds ago
Thank you! I am glad you are enjoying it!
@@cooler_carpington I had a hunch that someone would tell me this
I gave the 99th like on video 😇😍👍
so what you’re saying is that i shouldn’t become a nonchalant dreadhead 😢
Pechorn sounds like he has an avoidant attachment style. An avoidantly attached person avoids emotional intimacy. At some point in the avoidant person's childhood, he or she trusted someone, such as a parent, and was betrayed. The betrayal felt so damaging that all emotional connections were seen as suspect.
However, it is possible to have secure attachment. To go from a fear of feeling too close to others to a secure attachment, we have to reparent the inner child. Every child needs unconditional understanding. Be that as it may, there isn't a child alive that feels completely understood.
Thus, in order to make our inner child secure, we have to understand what he or she needs. We have to talk to our inner children and ask why are you afraid.
Most of the time, it all comes down to death. We are all afraid of dying and that fear makes us feel out of control. Gaining control is done in many ways, the Enneagram explains nine different coping mechanisms. Each way of coping can be unhealthy or healthy. Healthy comes when we realize that in order to become adults, we have to realize that at any moment at any time we could die.
When we realize that no matter what we do death is uncompromisable, we can relax. After a time, we are no longer afraid of death so we have no need to display any trappings of power.
Women, who have less status and less power in today's world, realize at around age twelve that men see them as either a sult or a nurturing figure. Women don't get to be anything other than sexy or a mother, so we let go of our egos early on. Even though women know we need each other, we belittle each other's looks and put each other down. We do so out of a need to not feel vulnerable.
Many women feel lonely because in womanhood, our worth is based on male acceptance. Those women who are socially approved of, the good looking, have better outcomes in their lives than the ugly women. Men have the same thing with power. Men who have power have better outcomes than men without power.
All the same, all of this is silly. Once the absurdity of life is seen, no man or woman can ever care about who is deemed worthy or not worthy. Life is just life and death comes in the end for everyone. It is through the acceptance of death that we finally grow up and connect with life.
This video was amazingly fascinating, as is something that I often notice as a girl. Anyone who uses social media regularly will eventually find these videos from "Gurus" from men to "help" them be "better" "stronger" or more masculine, oftentimes making them feel like women are manipulative beings, and isolating them to only themselves or their reassuring circles. It is sad to think how much influence those false gurus have, and how damaging it is for young men. They get more bitter and sometimes it feels like they are at war, either with women or with themselves.
I admire your approach and your message, the type of healthy masculinity -I would even dare call it true masculinity- you are promoting is exactly what men need to hear. Joseph, your work is truly wonderful and valuable, we can't thank you enough.
Typical female response. Not acknowledging that much of this malaise is in response to the dispicable behavior of your kind. As they say, accountability is kryptonite to women.
The ability to voluntarily face your fears makes you braver and more likely to face your fears " self mastery "
Wait until this guy reads about metamodernism, it's incredible how this all comes together in the wider picture.
At least he doesn't suffer from an excess of goodness
Though one might get confused about what weakness is and the evil that springs from it
EARLY FOR THE FIRST TIME YES🔥
Objection, the three temptations are parables for one's connection to God, one's belief in God, and one's loyalty to God. It paints an anti-vision of each 'chakra' in Abrahamic spirituality.
Yes that's literally me minus the no values part. I keep all my relationships at arms length because I'm afraid to be hurt. But HOW DO WE FIX IT. I know that I'm not living but I can't bring myself to do otherwise. Any tips from other recovering superfluous people would be much appreciated
Had the book you talk about for a while but ended up tossing it before reading it and now thinking maybe I shouldn’t have. I’m pretty sure Alexander the Great also killed his best friend but since he was drunk out of his mind at the time maybe it could count as a mitigating factor in his defense. No one would want to have a friend if they had known his real nature but fortunately he is a fictional character while Alexander is not. I was a fan of Nietzsche for a long time until I found out he was a chronic practitioner of solo sex and couldn’t see how that fit into his self-overcoming idea. Anyway in the US now there are supposed to be seven million men of prime working age who have given up on work and aren’t even looking for a job but I don’t think their issues have much to do with this literary character or even fear of vulnerability but still an interesting discussion. Be well.⚛️❤
Girlie here , but every single video is a masterpiece 💓 so had to watch
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Personally speaking, I don't find the careless anti-hero or villain necessarily compelling or resonant. Rather, I find the anti-hero or villain who cares too much about a few things or even everything particularly compelling and resonant.
A few seconds in and I already know "a hero of our time" by Lermontov gonna be referenced!
Edit: time stamp was named that 😅
It the first time Ive seen an early upload.
I have a question.
Have you delved into middle eastern & asian literature?
It's kinda funny. Just before you started talking about the suggestion of some that men like Pechorin are feeling a "god shaped hole", I was thinking about how much the Bible god character reads just like one of these superfluous men. Especially at that part about trying to maintain a sort of environment of perfect control.
When you think about what kinds of people authored and redacted the Bible, there were probably a fair number of them who fit this superfluous mold. Stretch that out to a people group who spent most of their history in a vassal relationship to larger groups and suddenly Bible god makes a whole lot of sense as a character who is often petty, deceitful and demanding of attention while forever remaining aloof.
It's not so much that Pechorin and superfluous men have a god shaped hole in their heart but that Bible god came to reflect the self image of superfluous men.
The fact that these traits are deemed to be such a good thing as to be elevated to divinity is highly suggestive, given the intervening ~3k years of human history since the formation of the Torah and now.
When self help fails, the disillusioned turn to others harm
Why should I fight for my country if I can’t get a girlfriend?
I feel like Pechorin. I don’t care about anything, and I don’t like it. I don’t know how not to be though. I’ve told people how I feel, and they said they envy me; they wish they could care so little, as it would make their life easier, but for me, it makes it empty.
Does someone get to choose whether they care? I’ve tried to before and it just doesn’t happen. How do I get myself to? How do I get through the fact that caring is more painful than not caring?
You seem to possess capacity for profound reflection. Whatever path you choose in life, try not to sacrifice all of it in exchange for an increase in decisiveness. It will allow for a correction of pointlessly rigid course.
I feel attacked by your comment.
… And you’re right by the way.
Have you done any Spinoza videos yet?
I don't believe in self-love.
Only in self-acceptance as the baseline followed by desire to improve self.
True love can only be for another, not for self. By the time we mean it with actual "self-love," we risk self-absorption, narcissism, inability to connect, and simply missing out on the most amazing parts of the human experience, which is connection with a few special others.
I also don't believe in universal love, agape, and all that "humanity" nonsense. No such thing. People of quality are inherently selective, discerning, and discriminatory. We love some people and a few intensely, we like others, we are indifferent to a large number, and hate what's hate-able. With the latter, we seek to remove from our life in some way, then move on without another thought.
i love the solution the Bible / God offers -> do your best / your part, aiming at loving and serving others and God. And do not worry beyond that, God will use it to manifest the best good for his purposes through you by that (f.e. Matthew 22:36-40, Proverbs 3:5-6). Which from a christian perspektive is the highest good to aim for I believe
Happy to be critiqued, about my statement and learn
Pushkin's _Eugene Onegin_ is pronounced smth like Yev-GHE-niy O-NEH-ghin :)