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What are the odds that THIS happened to answer the exact question I woke up pondering myself after a deep meditation session. I’m blown away. What an illusion! Thanks, Jason 🙏.
Adi Shankaracharya never said the world is an illusion. He said world is mithya (here it means impermanent/ever changing/appearance) not unreal/illusion.
The illusion can be said to be necessary in order to recognize the Real. Maya is (a power of) Brahman. Thank you for yet another insightful video into the nature of Reality.
Good morning, Jason. Namaste. I love listening to your talks in the morning!! That was a beautiful elucidation that reminded me a bit of Huxley's statement about "the doors of perception." ☮️❤️
Thank you. I have been studying and practicing based on Ramana Maharshi's teachings for more than 30 years. I was introduced to this my teacher, Nome at SAT in Santa Crus, CA. Your talk gave me a much clearer view of Maya. I certainly know of the conditioning of mind, but had never connected this to the term "Maya." Having language to talk and think about this subtle material is a big help. And as you said in the video, it provides clarity on the question of the reality of the world. The reality or lack thereof depends on the view. Viewing though Maya it is illusion. Without Maya, it is Reality. reality with a capital "R" since it is the real thing. .
It's actually not an illuision. You are just seeing the world as its not in reality. You have to stop seeing the rope as the snake. And thus it will completely vanish
It's actually not an illuision. You are just seeing the world as its not in reality. You have to stop seeing the rope as the snake. And thus it will completely vanish
Hi Jason 🖐️🤚!! Something wierd is happening,and i dont now what think of it?.Whenever i look your older videos,from time to time,literally popup new video you upload?Is this synchronicity,or "Lucky"!!??
Whew! This was a tough one, Jason. I've struggled with this for some time. Thadeus Golas once made a comment about "secondary realities" with the example of a word like "audience". It's made up of real things - people. But once the audience has dispersed, it doesn't exist. Therefore the "audience" is a secondary reality. LIkewise the universe is made out of real stuff - consciousness. But the universe is a secondary reality since objects appear and dissolve, reverting to what they always were - consciousness. I found this a somewhat helpful analogy.
Many think either one were incarnations of Lord Shiva. Even from a nondual Shaiva perspective, this could be. Paramashiva is unbound. I suspect Swami Vivekananda set this straight, that the universe, Mother Shakti as a manifestation of Lord Shiva, is absolutely divine and real, not illusory as per traditional Advaita Vedanta.
Thank you so much Jason 🌅💓 This is such an important clarity. As u probably have seen a majority of non-duality teachers have become reductionists. It's all one and all else is an illusion. Dismising the Divine's great Garden of Life. The One within the Many is very liberating and an understanding that allows for ever-expanding Bliss and Love.
@@fbomb2353 “Alice laughed. ‘There’s no use trying,’ she said: ‘one can’t believe impossible things.’ ‘I daresay you haven’t had much practice,’ said the Queen. ‘When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.‘”
Shree Adi Shankaracharya ji is like an avatar of Iswara & Shree Swami Vivekananda is a disciple of Shree Adi Shankaracharya. Cannot compare the depth of a Galaxy & it's Star! 🙏🕉️🚩
Kudos Jason. Again an excellent video. Only critique: World cannot be both an illusion and a (divine) reality. They come from two different models of Tattvas and how Maya is defined. I have moved on from the Advaita Vedanta model with 24-25 Tattvas to the 36 Tattva model of Kashmir Shaivism where Maya is one of the Tattvas and there are 5 or 6 kanchukas (limitations) as additional taatvas. But Maya Shakti is the same as Svatantrya Shakti, but in reverse, giving rise to Prakriti (multiple Tattvas of manifestation) and Purusha. But all 36 Tattvas are by definition the same divine reality 'vibrating' (spanda) at lower and lower frequencies. There is no room for Illusion in this model. In fact it points to the flaw that how can unreal illusion be created by Real Brahman. I will look forward to a video on Kashmir Shaivism from you in the future 😉. You are doing awesome work mate! 🙏🙏
Then, it is a "divine illusion". I don't see any contradiction in this. After all, how can illusion exist by itself? Only reality exists by itself. So, illusion cannot be anything different than reality itself. The illusion is just the names and forms reality takes or seems to take. A tree is not a tree, it is reality (consciousness) in a form of a tree, covered by a veil of ignorance (which is, again, nothing apart from reality). Thanks Jason.
The material world is not an illusion, Krishna says in the gita: " material nature consist of three modes, goodness, passion, and ignorance when the living entity comes into contact with material nature O mighty-armed Arjuna he becomes conditioned by these modes." since it's conditions us it is a real reality.
These are not intellectual subject matters that can be debated. One has to do sadhana ( spiritual practices) to gain insight into the nature of reality. Anyway, if you follow the path of nondualism the only option left out for you is to do meditation. In that case, you leave behind this world and thus you do not have an understanding of this world other than experiencing oneness with everything. The key issue arises when you do not learn how to interact with this world and thus you must lose your individual existence and attain nirvana which is kind of a spiritual suicide. However, Shankarya was a much more advanced spiritual seeker than many seekers in the current day. Overall, no one should waste their time studying this stuff. There is a better way to do spiritual sadhana.
Jason, could you make a video (or maybe you already have, I am new to your channel) about the theories as to why we experience Maya? In other words, if we are all Atman, we were never born and will never die, what is the purpose of the Brahman creating the cycle of incarnations, self and so on.
The way I understand it, form is not created by the divine but can be seen in a divine way by processing it through a unified lens rather than a dual one. Purifying the mind is the only way to release the mortal dream. This world denies the existence of the divine but was created by the seeming misuse of divine mind.
Forms can only exist in no form state not the other way around.. There is a Rajasthani folk song in India and it goes like this On the stage of absolute the play of relativity goes on..
The moment "you" are onto this world everything is for real just as the dream is real,so the thing is which ever concept one gets allured to ,the question is did it lead to that constant realisation or not??
Advaita encompasses everything. If there is no other, how can one philosophy be different from another? Calling the world an illusion is not different from calling it a divine play. Because the one making the judgement is within the world and sees the world subjectively. As soon as the ego vanishes, the world is one. If you say the world is illusion/play, you have to say that I am illusion/play as well. If you say I am real and separate, then for you the world has to real and separate as well.
What a lovely long explanation of a misconception yours included. Vishnu has the dream Brahma creates the world. The term illusion refers to Vishnu's dream and the word "Illusion" is a bad interpretation for a word that means the dream of a god. But a nice try, I think a little maya is a great entertainment.
if with Reality you mean what is perceived only than it's an illusion in a sense,but what is perceiving(the perceiver,Consciousness,God,Nirguna Brahman) it is Real,so in that sense we can say that once the Perceiver is realized in a sense the perceived than it's real too,so there's no more discussion than,it's just a metter of really understanding and go beyond duality friends,Rupert Spira explain this matter very well i took this from his understanding ; )
Please don't tell me you like the fellow who calls everyone a rascal. He never liked his wife after marriage but decided to have 4-5 children with her 😂😂. He said women like being r***d. Do you seriously think what he says can be taken as true?
The ultimate Yoga is Bhakti, as the final stage of our consciousness- realisation of our Divine relationship and spontaneous unconditional servitude to Ishvara through who we are, where we are and what we do. Impurities of the mind and body don't matter, the purity of the heart with its absolute surrender to Bhagavan are 'the log-in' details available to any living Being willing to tap in. "Maya" is not an inanimate object, but Divine Being who serves Bhagavan. A Being who can be connected and befriended with, rather than rejected or resisted, destroyed, etc. She is the best servant and illusionist of all illusionist- The Illusioninst quality of Vishnu, creative and transformational aspect, not by accident female personification of this quality who can be more helpful than deceptive, once you get to know Her and learn to respect Her efforts in Her existential offering to Narayan.....every aspect of the entire creation is a living part of the Divine Body. Even the temporary ones are Friends who play their roles in our Divine Dance. We are never disconnected or separated from Ishvara, only our perception is distorted and needs calibration. Heart is the instrument to master, Ego is the matter to transform. Jai,
There is not really any debate between swami vivekananda and shankara. Mithya means unreal or with no independent existence. Same way swamiji described maya. Except swamiji was clearly more on the practical and inspiring side of advaita than shankara. Thats the only point of difference in swami vivekananda and adi shankaracharya.
Shankarayacharya understood the absolute nature of Brahmin however he lacked understanding of the creative aspect of Brahma and thus he saw this creation as a Maya (illusion). Indeed it does matter how see this world rather than how you interact with it. Since Nondualist do their sadhana using meditation and hence do not interact with the world. therefore they do not have a perfect understanding of this world. No one should waste their time reading Shankarchariay and Ramakrihsnamission. In addition, a true seeker should ISKCON as well. What about faith-based religion? If you are a seeker, then you cannot be a follower. Also, stay away from this so-called Sad Guru.
Iskcon is only good at denouncing advaita. A bunch of lunatics who have limited god to a particular part of the universe. Basically justifying the Mahayana school in saying that God is basically a man but worse. I can never believe in such nonsense. They say that followers of advaita will suffer similar fate to that of hiranyakashipu as they think they are God. This arises from themselves identifying themselves as one with the body and there was never a bigger blasphemy for a man than to think that he is the body. This is root of all misery and wrong deeds a man does but alas iskconites will never understand it or else they will not be isckonites anymore.
The world is an illusion. This is without doubt. But who is the illusionist? That's the real question. Seeing thru the appearance, the divine alone remains. For the maker of veils is none other than than yourSelf.
Vivekananda was not a true seeker, he was a just preacher., He did not have any clear ideas of any subject matter. When he first came to the west he was preaching how to worship the tantric goddess Ma Kali. However, whenever he found out that westerners were not much comfortable with deity worship, he then immediately move to preach them on pranayama and meditation. He has made many foul comments about Bhagavad Gita and Ishwar. He read various western philosophy books and he combined his teaching from various sources. Till today many monks in the Ramakrishna mission are just monks by reading various scriptures, they have not done much sadhana. An intelligent man will never take seriously what Vivekananda or Ramakrishna mission preaches. However, their teaching can be appealing to those who are just beginning on the path of Sadhana. He was a meat monk which is very disgusting. Ramakrishna's teachings are also appealing to many who do not have much depth in spiritual sadhana. Why do many Hindus in India like Ramakrishna? The answer is simple - they promoted meat eating and taught people how to be not responsible and held them accountable for their wrongdoings.
I'm a beginner in these teachings and ramakrishna and Vivikananda are appealing to me. I would like to hear your thoughts on Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta...are they any better?
@@antiabrahamicreligion Why do you tell me to shut up? You do not how to even speak to someone? How can I engage in a meaningful conversation with you? Please do not act like an idiot.
@@antiabrahamicreligion Be polite. Courte4sy does not cost anything. You are exhibiting violent behavior because of your meat-eating habit. When you kill an animal for its flesh, you commit cruelty toward an animal. Is cruelty a Vaishavava thing?
@@antiabrahamicreligion Compassion and love toward all beings are the fundamental teachings of Sanatan Dharma. Sanatana Dharma does not preach violence. A killer does not need a guru. Why do you need Vivekanondo to be a meat eater?
Comparing Vivekananda with shivaavtara Adi shankaracharya? This is the reason scriptures prohibit taking the knowledge outside india.. You outsiders are atheist to the core . Picking and choosing from scriptures and disrespecting hindu traditions and avatars is your favorite hobby
Nope, nice try, my friend. This knowledge comes directly from the Vedanta Society in Kolkata. So you are disrespecting the Swamis who taught me and many others this knowledge. You should also speak more politely to strangers instead of pretending to be tough behind a keyboard, which is cowardly. Shame on you for disrespecting India and the Ramakrishna Mission. Also, I have been teaching for 2 decades. Just because you watched my video for the first time doesn't mean I'm new to this. That would be an unintelligent perspective on your behalf. So, since you are a beginner, you should start with basic manners before studying Vedanta.
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Maya as a "measurement" is as good as your other "undifferentiated consciousness" (atman). Loved it! Thanks
What are the odds that THIS happened to answer the exact question I woke up pondering myself after a deep meditation session. I’m blown away. What an illusion! Thanks, Jason 🙏.
Synchronicity is everywhere
Adi Shankaracharya never said the world is an illusion. He said world is mithya (here it means impermanent/ever changing/appearance) not unreal/illusion.
The illusion can be said to be necessary in order to recognize the Real. Maya is (a power of) Brahman. Thank you for yet another insightful video into the nature of Reality.
Highest suggest to read Raja Yoga by Swami Vivekananda :)
Whatever that is physical is an illusion. All that exists is consciousness. -Ramana Maharshi
The reality is an illusion, the "experience" is real.
Great job! Keep it up. Maya is very sticky and it's so easy to get lost in the current Yuga. Breath. Relax. Let go. “Om shanti shanti shanti.”
I love that. Essentially let go and *be*
Good morning, Jason.
Namaste. I love listening to your talks in the morning!!
That was a beautiful elucidation that reminded me a bit of Huxley's statement about "the doors of perception."
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Agreed!
Make sure you read his "Perennial Philosophy", too. Mind blowing! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perennial_Philosophy
Thumbs up, Jason. This is one I will have to watch several times to digest but my initial takeaway is: paradox. And I can understand that 100%.
Paradox is what it apparently is. The more paradoxical it seems as one dives deeper
Please make a video on Rāmānuja and Vishistadvaita Jason! 🙏🏻
Brilliant, i was wondering about this exact conundrum recently. Thank you!
a useful pointer lovingly expressed 💗💗💗
absolutely brilliant. thank you for this
It’s a divine illusion lol!
What's divine isn't an illusion
@@dogtail3937 what is an illusion,
Is not the Divine
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Lol i was just thinking that and then looked down and saw your comment..toofunny😂
@@Amila108 true
Beautifully explained !
A very deep and clear explanation. Thank you
Thank you. I have been studying and practicing based on Ramana Maharshi's teachings for more than 30 years. I was introduced to this my teacher, Nome at SAT in Santa Crus, CA.
Your talk gave me a much clearer view of Maya. I certainly know of the conditioning of mind, but had never connected this to the term "Maya." Having language to talk and think about this subtle material is a big help. And as you said in the video, it provides clarity on the question of the reality of the world. The reality or lack thereof depends on the view. Viewing though Maya it is illusion. Without Maya, it is Reality. reality with a capital "R" since it is the real thing. .
Do you watch Swami Sarvapriyananda’s Advaitha videos on TH-cam?
@@austin426512 Yes, worthwhile.
It's actually not an illuision. You are just seeing the world as its not in reality. You have to stop seeing the rope as the snake. And thus it will completely vanish
It's actually not an illuision. You are just seeing the world as its not in reality. You have to stop seeing the rope as the snake. And thus it will completely vanish
I've been pondering this for weeks. Thank you so much for your video Buddy. Again Thanks.
never knew how much I enjoy listening to the Australian accent using my favourite Sanskrit words ❤😍
Hi Jason 🖐️🤚!! Something wierd is happening,and i dont now what think of it?.Whenever i look your older videos,from time to time,literally popup new video you upload?Is this synchronicity,or "Lucky"!!??
Whew! This was a tough one, Jason. I've struggled with this for some time. Thadeus Golas once made a comment about "secondary realities" with the example of a word like "audience". It's made up of real things - people. But once the audience has dispersed, it doesn't exist. Therefore the "audience" is a secondary reality. LIkewise the universe is made out of real stuff - consciousness. But the universe is a secondary reality since objects appear and dissolve, reverting to what they always were - consciousness. I found this a somewhat helpful analogy.
Many think either one were incarnations of Lord Shiva. Even from a nondual Shaiva perspective, this could be. Paramashiva is unbound. I suspect Swami Vivekananda set this straight, that the universe, Mother Shakti as a manifestation of Lord Shiva, is absolutely divine and real, not illusory as per traditional Advaita Vedanta.
Good morning, Jason and a very good year for you both! You look very healthy :) wish you the best for the journey ahead. shanti shanti shanti
Thank you Jason. Jai Shri Ram JAI Shri Hanuman
Thank you so much Jason 🌅💓 This is such an important clarity. As u probably have seen a majority of non-duality teachers have become reductionists. It's all one and all else is an illusion. Dismising the Divine's great Garden of Life. The One within the Many is very liberating and an understanding that allows for ever-expanding Bliss and Love.
The last Nobel prize proves it is unreal.
Can you please elaborate?
@@eternalreality4346 they have just realised that the no bel is really a horn.
It all makes sense really
@@fbomb2353 “Alice laughed. ‘There’s no use trying,’ she said: ‘one can’t believe impossible things.’
‘I daresay you haven’t had much practice,’ said the Queen. ‘When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.‘”
Shree Adi Shankaracharya ji is like an avatar of Iswara & Shree Swami Vivekananda is a disciple of Shree Adi Shankaracharya. Cannot compare the depth of a Galaxy & it's Star! 🙏🕉️🚩
Thank you.
Kudos Jason. Again an excellent video.
Only critique: World cannot be both an illusion and a (divine) reality. They come from two different models of Tattvas and how Maya is defined.
I have moved on from the Advaita Vedanta model with 24-25 Tattvas to the 36 Tattva model of Kashmir Shaivism where Maya is one of the Tattvas and there are 5 or 6 kanchukas (limitations) as additional taatvas. But Maya Shakti is the same as Svatantrya Shakti, but in reverse, giving rise to Prakriti (multiple Tattvas of manifestation) and Purusha. But all 36 Tattvas are by definition the same divine reality 'vibrating' (spanda) at lower and lower frequencies. There is no room for Illusion in this model. In fact it points to the flaw that how can unreal illusion be created by Real Brahman.
I will look forward to a video on Kashmir Shaivism from you in the future 😉. You are doing awesome work mate!
🙏🙏
You have amazing amount of knowledge to share. Please continue to do so! We will support in any way possible.
Then, it is a "divine illusion". I don't see any contradiction in this. After all, how can illusion exist by itself? Only reality exists by itself. So, illusion cannot be anything different than reality itself. The illusion is just the names and forms reality takes or seems to take. A tree is not a tree, it is reality (consciousness) in a form of a tree, covered by a veil of ignorance (which is, again, nothing apart from reality).
Thanks Jason.
Here we call illusion is the shadow of the God ( brahm)
The material world is not an illusion, Krishna says in the gita: " material nature consist of three modes, goodness, passion, and ignorance when the living entity comes into contact with material nature O mighty-armed Arjuna he becomes conditioned by these modes." since it's conditions us it is a real reality.
yes both are true depends how you are observing it
Your video are very best source for being spritual and happy 😁 thanks for this amazing video
These are not intellectual subject matters that can be debated. One has to do sadhana ( spiritual practices) to gain insight into the nature of reality. Anyway, if you follow the path of nondualism the only option left out for you is to do meditation. In that case, you leave behind this world and thus you do not have an understanding of this world other than experiencing oneness with everything. The key issue arises when you do not learn how to interact with this world and thus you must lose your individual existence and attain nirvana which is kind of a spiritual suicide. However, Shankarya was a much more advanced spiritual seeker than many seekers in the current day. Overall, no one should waste their time studying this stuff. There is a better way to do spiritual sadhana.
Jason, could you make a video (or maybe you already have, I am new to your channel) about the theories as to why we experience Maya? In other words, if we are all Atman, we were never born and will never die, what is the purpose of the Brahman creating the cycle of incarnations, self and so on.
DIVINE GRATITUDE
Thank you, perspective is the point.
The way I understand it, form is not created by the divine but can be seen in a divine way by processing it through a unified lens rather than a dual one. Purifying the mind is the only way to release the mortal dream. This world denies the existence of the divine but was created by the seeming misuse of divine mind.
Forms can only exist in no form state not the other way around..
There is a Rajasthani folk song in India and it goes like this
On the stage of absolute the play of relativity goes on..
The moment "you" are onto this world everything is for real just as the dream is real,so the thing is which ever concept one gets allured to ,the question is did it lead to that constant realisation or not??
I've been measuring and cutting wood.
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Thank you Thank you Thank you 😊
Advaita encompasses everything. If there is no other, how can one philosophy be different from another? Calling the world an illusion is not different from calling it a divine play. Because the one making the judgement is within the world and sees the world subjectively. As soon as the ego vanishes, the world is one.
If you say the world is illusion/play, you have to say that I am illusion/play as well. If you say I am real and separate, then for you the world has to real and separate as well.
But weren't they all enlightened? So are they saying they perceive different things or just making different inspirations?
They are explaining the same thing in different ways.
What a lovely long explanation of a misconception yours included. Vishnu has the dream Brahma creates the world. The term illusion refers to Vishnu's dream and the word "Illusion" is a bad interpretation for a word that means the dream of a god. But a nice try, I think a little maya is a great entertainment.
Vivekananda was better than Shankara.
What😂
In a wider sense yeah. He was much more holistic than him. But in essence, he was shankara reborn
Is it possible to practice Zen ,or any of the Buddhism by yourself I live far from any city or town and how would one going about it ?
You are already practicing it by not living in a city 🧡😝
it's all pointless if one stops at the meaning of the words only,like a master said the finger that points to the moon it's not the moon itself .
if with Reality you mean what is perceived only than it's an illusion in a sense,but what is perceiving(the perceiver,Consciousness,God,Nirguna Brahman) it is Real,so in that sense we can say that once the Perceiver is realized in a sense the perceived than it's real too,so there's no more discussion than,it's just a metter of really understanding and go beyond duality friends,Rupert Spira explain this matter very well i took this from his understanding ; )
subtitles will be great.
Damn! Halfway through the video and its proving too much to digest.
Interesting debate, but neither.
Best philosophy is of Swami Prabhupada
Please don't tell me you like the fellow who calls everyone a rascal. He never liked his wife after marriage but decided to have 4-5 children with her 😂😂. He said women like being r***d. Do you seriously think what he says can be taken as true?
The ultimate Yoga is Bhakti, as the final stage of our consciousness- realisation of our Divine relationship and spontaneous unconditional servitude to Ishvara through who we are, where we are and what we do.
Impurities of the mind and body don't matter, the purity of the heart with its absolute surrender to Bhagavan are 'the log-in' details available to any living Being willing to tap in.
"Maya" is not an inanimate object, but Divine Being who serves Bhagavan.
A Being who can be connected and befriended with, rather than rejected or resisted, destroyed, etc.
She is the best servant and illusionist of all illusionist- The Illusioninst quality of Vishnu, creative and transformational aspect, not by accident female personification of this quality who can be more helpful than deceptive, once you get to know Her and learn to respect Her efforts in Her existential offering to Narayan.....every aspect of the entire creation is a living part of the Divine Body.
Even the temporary ones are Friends who play their roles in our Divine Dance.
We are never disconnected or separated from Ishvara, only our perception is distorted and needs calibration.
Heart is the instrument to master, Ego is the matter to transform.
Jai,
There is not really any debate between swami vivekananda and shankara. Mithya means unreal or with no independent existence. Same way swamiji described maya. Except swamiji was clearly more on the practical and inspiring side of advaita than shankara. Thats the only point of difference in swami vivekananda and adi shankaracharya.
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Are we still debating this? The rope is not a snake. Okay? 😅
Snake only seemingly appears as rope
@@CaptainSanchezrope only seeming appears as snake
Shankarayacharya understood the absolute nature of Brahmin however he lacked understanding of the creative aspect of Brahma and thus he saw this creation as a Maya (illusion). Indeed it does matter how see this world rather than how you interact with it. Since Nondualist do their sadhana using meditation and hence do not interact with the world. therefore they do not have a perfect understanding of this world. No one should waste their time reading Shankarchariay and Ramakrihsnamission. In addition, a true seeker should ISKCON as well. What about faith-based religion? If you are a seeker, then you cannot be a follower. Also, stay away from this so-called Sad Guru.
Iskcon is only good at denouncing advaita. A bunch of lunatics who have limited god to a particular part of the universe. Basically justifying the Mahayana school in saying that God is basically a man but worse. I can never believe in such nonsense. They say that followers of advaita will suffer similar fate to that of hiranyakashipu as they think they are God. This arises from themselves identifying themselves as one with the body and there was never a bigger blasphemy for a man than to think that he is the body. This is root of all misery and wrong deeds a man does but alas iskconites will never understand it or else they will not be isckonites anymore.
Funny vid . Does divinity need illusions?
It does not NEED it but it exists as a means of play for the Divine. God playing hide and seek
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@dogtail Here we call illusion is the shadow of the God ( brahm)
Or
Its play ( drama)
@@gauravtr7766 I myself an Indian
@@VSM101 ya! It's totally an illusion
The world is an illusion. This is without doubt.
But who is the illusionist? That's the real question.
Seeing thru the appearance, the divine alone remains.
For the maker of veils is none other than than yourSelf.
So the illuminating life which is the proof of every truth, is the illusionist? Makes sense.
Vivekananda was not a true seeker, he was a just preacher., He did not have any clear ideas of any subject matter. When he first came to the west he was preaching how to worship the tantric goddess Ma Kali. However, whenever he found out that westerners were not much comfortable with deity worship, he then immediately move to preach them on pranayama and meditation. He has made many foul comments about Bhagavad Gita and Ishwar. He read various western philosophy books and he combined his teaching from various sources. Till today many monks in the Ramakrishna mission are just monks by reading various scriptures, they have not done much sadhana. An intelligent man will never take seriously what Vivekananda or Ramakrishna mission preaches. However, their teaching can be appealing to those who are just beginning on the path of Sadhana. He was a meat monk which is very disgusting. Ramakrishna's teachings are also appealing to many who do not have much depth in spiritual sadhana. Why do many Hindus in India like Ramakrishna? The answer is simple - they promoted meat eating and taught people how to be not responsible and held them accountable for their wrongdoings.
I'm a beginner in these teachings and ramakrishna and Vivikananda are appealing to me. I would like to hear your thoughts on Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta...are they any better?
Oh please shut up meat eating is nowhere forbidden in hinduism
Don't think that hinduism revolves around vaishnavism
@@antiabrahamicreligion Why do you tell me to shut up? You do not how to even speak to someone? How can I engage in a meaningful conversation with you? Please do not act like an idiot.
@@antiabrahamicreligion Be polite. Courte4sy does not cost anything. You are exhibiting violent behavior because of your meat-eating habit. When you kill an animal for its flesh, you commit cruelty toward an animal. Is cruelty a Vaishavava thing?
@@antiabrahamicreligion Compassion and love toward all beings are the fundamental teachings of Sanatan Dharma. Sanatana Dharma does not preach violence. A killer does not need a guru. Why do you need Vivekanondo to be a meat eater?
Comparing Vivekananda with shivaavtara Adi shankaracharya? This is the reason scriptures prohibit taking the knowledge outside india.. You outsiders are atheist to the core . Picking and choosing from scriptures and disrespecting hindu traditions and avatars is your favorite hobby
Nope, nice try, my friend. This knowledge comes directly from the Vedanta Society in Kolkata. So you are disrespecting the Swamis who taught me and many others this knowledge. You should also speak more politely to strangers instead of pretending to be tough behind a keyboard, which is cowardly. Shame on you for disrespecting India and the Ramakrishna Mission. Also, I have been teaching for 2 decades. Just because you watched my video for the first time doesn't mean I'm new to this. That would be an unintelligent perspective on your behalf. So, since you are a beginner, you should start with basic manners before studying Vedanta.