Shoutout to my boi Nile who went undefeated outside of the tag team where the writers had to nerf his special move, have Gingka AND Masamune double team him AND they had to do it BEFORE he even used his special move. Dude was Kyouya's true number 2, and let Kyouya get as far as he did
the plot screwed him over, in the battle against india, mystic zone was so fast, no one even knew what happened. Then in the 2v2 he had to charge it for some reason
I was hyped when he used gale force in the air and yelled " CLIMB HIGHER LEONE" and the fukin bey started climbing higher then pegasus mid air. Absolutely insane. Also his English VA was killing it in that battle, He made kyoya sound like he was fighting for it. And he cooked with all the lines he made kyoyas new shit a threat.
its clearly shown in the team battle after that kyoya is stronger. ginga couldnt even use his speacial move without masamunes help while kyoya not only could but he temporarily block BOTH OF THEM.
Battle should have stopped even before, Gingka's best special move at that time got negged by Kyoya's 4th best special move. Kyoya was easily winning, not even close
literally bro plot armor is madly in love with gingka. It was so obv kyoya was gonna win this battle but alll gingka had to do was scream and plot armor saves the day
@@texjify I'd even argue that Gingka vs Nile should have been a closer fight (Gingka was probably stronger, since this version of Nile was a lot weaker than the one who stopped black excalibur, but I still think Gingka vs Nile would have been debatable)
Boy you know Kyoya the real goat out here, he def got robbed in the masters match. But I liked that the writers never had him lose a 1v1 to Gingka after that match, so it’s bittersweet to me. Great video
I’ve seen a few people mention that, I was only fortunate enough to see the metal saga on up when I was a kid but now I have the time to go back and watch so I’ll put it on my to do list
@JariusKnows I grew up on the original and even ran it back to watch all three seasons. But I'm halfway through V-Force for the second time. I definitely recommend it.
They would’ve cancelled the world championships probably. Who is gonna waste time and money to go up against the dragon emperor, the king of beasts and plot armour personified.😂
i absolutely agree. Wildfang should have won and gan gan galaxy should have gone into the wild card tournament after which they face Excaliber and garcias before facing wildfang again in the semis. Even as a kid i felt like it was weird that galaxy pegasus survived the reverse wind strike
The vid was fire kyoya worked so hard thru the series just to be stuck at second to gingka till this day since I was a kid knew that man got robbed he’s far from my favorite but i always respected the amount of work he put in
Kyoya is the strongest natural blader. He didn’t have legendary star fragments like the original Pegasus and L-Drago. He should’ve beaten Ryuga in Fusion and Gingka in Masters.
Not natural, but much hardworking than gingka He worked hard for everything, even at the 2nd fight with gingka, he trained his ass off but the main character plot ruined him the same as ryuga
On a weird way , this was the season were Kyoya was second strongest or tied with Ginka thru the whole Metal Master Saga : - Not only he was very strong , he shurg off Tsubasa dark powers like it was nothing - Kyoya was the closest blader from here that could beat Ginka - Damian whose a power house and Top 4 blader , barely lost to Ginka , and then he got a lot more stronger , and Kyoya just beats him up at the spot - I do feel that Kyoya vs Ginka should had been "THE FINALS"
@@JariusKnows Also , thankfully the anime they made Kyoya really strong. In the manga however , Kyoya is pretty much a jobber , he only has like 3-4 wins and does not even have a big win. The anime does justice to Kyoya and show us how badass and strong he is.
Dude didnt just beat damien, he had control of the fight more times than damien, whereas gingka was in the back foot the entire battle before he called out stardust driver
i think a better way to have this, is to have masamune win his battle against nile. for some reason dude forgot about his training. then have gingka finally lose against kyoya as gingka did not develope alot of special moves for galaxy pegasus as he did for storm pegasus. this makes gingkas dig deep for when they battle again in the 2v2 where they win. or do as you said and have gan gan galaxy get eliminated, so they can come through the losers bracket or wild card.
11:02 slight correction to the World Championships format, the losers bracket (which WangHuZhong won) is originally a wildcard bracket for teams who lost in the first/second rounds. As GGGalaxy vs WildFang was in the 3rd or 4th round, whoever that lost here would be out entirely. Unless the beyblade story was rewritten, it’ll be cool if GGGalaxy fought through the lower bracket & fight Excalibur in the Lower bracket final, A Block final vs Wild Fang (redemption for the lost) & fight crazy strong Starbreaker in the Finals.
When i was a kid i was a Gingka fan but EVEN THEN i was like "ok he's going to lose" And when it ended in a draw i couldn't understand what Gingka did to end like this
Kyoya should have won that particular battle the only reason he didnt was because of ginga beyblade spirit the will to not lose, even saying that kyoya is not stronger than ginga overall but in this battle though, he was ahead of ginga and was more focused of the two ginga should have lost here to highlight the fact that 1 he hasnt mastered pegasus or be able to utilise 100 percent of his power 2 since he beat ryuga hes slacked of his training forgot about bey spirit and has only relied purely on his bey power to win and 3 hes not supposed to struggle like this if hes the best or is a equal to ryuga, the fact that ryuga took one good look at ginga in their rematch and said you havent even mastered your bey is telling because that shows up to that point the writers are telling us ginga was not using pegasus 100 percent at all
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
Plot armor was Gingka begging galaxy Pegasus to unleash it's secret ahh power since he didn't master Pegasus one bit, even then. Crying for Pegasus led to the legendary bey unleashing a huge amount of power to counter leone. Kyoya would have stomped jingka logically without plot and would have even more if he had a legendary/forbidden bey as well Ryuga atleast masters L drago to the point of getting rid of the dark power to bring out L drago's true power so he gets an excuse and respect Jingka got carried by galaxy against kyoya, just like he did with masamune Ryu
JariusKnows: Main character cant lose. me: He lost to ryuga 3 times, lost in a tournament in china the toreamon tag team battle, lost to Europe Festival Warriors, lost to f*cking Osamu (A background character), lost to Argo Garcia and he lost to Helios, got his bey completely f*cked in the manga with his battle with ryuga. (The first time they battled)
Drassbass: Didnt listen to the video, I said “official capacity” Ryuga ALL Exhibitions anytime something is really on the line he wins, Europe Festival of Warriors EXHIBITION they just wanted to introduce Julian and as soon as they battled in a tournament he won, the garcia battle was a continuous 4v4 so technically he did lose but also didnt because he fought multiple opponents consecutively not just 1 which by the way the opponent attacked him off guard, and lastly in metal fury the goal was never the tournaments or anything it was to find the next legendary bladers so they all could work together, so in doing that when they went places of course those bladers unlocked there powers and had to showcase their strength of being a legendary blader, its a entirely different end goal so he isnt needed to win to push the plot forward like the two prior sagas
@@JariusKnows Ok touche. But what about Ryuga's and Gingka's first battle. Keep in mind that this is a 1v1. In the Anime, Pegasus got Cooked hardcore. In the MANGA, Pegasus was VIOLATED (No pun intended), the pegasus bey got destroyed literally by the GOAT Himself, straight ripped to shreds. IK this is non-canon and its a 1v1, but what about Helios sol blaze completely smashing galaxy pegasus.
Yeah a lot of people do say Kyoya got robbed in this fight. I personally believe this to be true as well but at the same I didn't want Gingka to lose to him so I got the best of both worlds in this fight. From a logical stand point Yeah Kyoya got robbed. From a plot standpoint this was really the only thing they could've done. Besides this isn't the only time Gingka has been able to power through an opponent who was widly prepared for him. I will say this though by then end of metal Masters Gingka would be slightly stronger than Kyoya for sure very slightly but still slightly for sure. I can back this up too if you want So would you like to see my Tier-List for the top 5 Strongest Bladers in Metal Masters. You seem like you know Beyblade powerscaling or at the very least will be open to ideas lol.
I agree with everything you said, I dont think Kyoya should have been stronger then him necessarily other than this specific battle and moment of preparation, long term I understand why Gingka won and why he is the strongest. I just see it as if Ash from pokemon every single new region and pokemon league he entered he won them all but when he out in the woods he so beatable😂, Im open to hearing your top 5 though
@@JariusKnows Oh word! TH-cam doesn't show me when people reply like 90% of the time so that's why i'm 9 days late lol I hope you'll still see this though lol. So for my top 5 in Metal Masters. I'll be using mostly feats by the end of the series to make points because those would obviously be the most relevant. 1. Ryuga: Is ranked here because he by far had the best feats in Masters. Was uncontested in Masters. Effortlessley beat Jack. Easily broke through Faust's special move without even needing to call upon his own while Gingka and Masamune would've been trapped. Was able to absorb the spiral force core energy and didn't have L-Drago crack like Pegasus did. 2. Faust: Faust is ranked here because Even though he doesn't have much in the battle department. What little feats he does have is more than enough to get him placed here. Took on both Gingka and Masamune and gave them an extremely tough time might've even won had it not been for Ryuga's interference. Is stated to be the strongest Spiral Force member obviously. The energy he output was enough to make Galaxy Pegasus crack even while Ryuga was helping Gingka stop the Spiral Core. 3. Gingka: I know a lot of people will put Gingka/Kyoya and feel the two are equally matched but I feel Gingka would've just been the slightest bit stronger. Gingka ALWAYS showed that his bey spirit always made him more resilient to taking punishment during battles. Gingka during his battle with Damian didn't have Pegasus crack while Kyoya did have Leone crack during his battle with Damian. While yes he fought a stronger version of Damian than Gingka did at the time. Gingka still had a stronger force to deal with in Faust and the Spiral Core. Spiral Core would of course be stronger than Damian due to the fact Faust himself is stronger than Damian and it took both Gingka and Masamune to stop Faust himself and it took Both Gingka and Ryuga to stop the Spiral Core which Faust was powering. 4. Kyoya: Him beating an even stronger Damian than Gingka fought is basically all that needs to be said simply because in Masters it's his best feat. Though he did struggle a good amount in that fight 5. Masamune: OK NOW HEAR ME OUT. I feel like a lot of people be sleeping on my boy Masamune but he literally would be in the top 5 by the end of the series. Masamune is here simply because of the fact that him and Gingka being able to beat Faust together means he would literally HAVE to be relative to Gingka. Neither Gingka nor Masamune could've beat Faust by themself that much is obvious. However if Masamune was massively weaker than Gingka they could not have won that fight. Faust is literally the 2nd strongest in Masters and the gap between him and everyone else is rather large. There is also the fact that for a split second during his 1v1 with Faust Masamune was able to for a spit second start pushing Faust back during the battle. Also no other charachter(minus the ones presented above on the list) fought as high power of an opponent as Faust was during the end of Masters. 6. Damian: Had to at least tell you where I rank Damian lol. Def feel like he would still just barely lose to end of Masters Masamune though. They would both be knocked out for sure but I feel like Masamune would just by a literal inch be able to pull off a dub.
Let me point this out Kyoya vs Gingka Kyoya outright was stronger than Gingka but was not faster than him as Gingka use all his speed to counter Kyoya power Kyoya was using its own speed to force Pegasus down Pegasus being a speed type over clocked it Kyoya bey was going the Opposite Way, Pegasus with speed alone was able to just overpower his speed leading them both to clash at the end
Honestly the whole fight was a mess for both teams. I feel this fight would’ve been better if Gingka used some of his other moves like storm bringer. While kyoya has gotten stronger Gingka knows all these attacks except the new special move. It’s like their afraid of making him look smart instead he just powers through stuff. Then Kyoya not getting information galaxy Pegasus like bro what if it’s special move wasn’t an aerial attack then what. Plus dude your a defense type not an attack type you fighting in a way Leo isn’t designed for. Either way I do like Kyoya and Gingka there both the goats in their own way. But in my opinion the person who got robbed more then Kyoya was Yu man couldn’t got 3 ep without someone breaking his bey or him losing.
And if the got to fight Excalibur. They completely waste them. Nile can defend against Claus’ raw power and if Benkei uses maximum stampede. He can cut through grand Deucalion like he did with Kyoya back in fusion though they may have to lose so Kyoya can fight Julien but still the entire matchup is in Wildfang’s favor.
@@JariusKnows Yeah but dang when you mentioned the losers bracket. That hit hard. The writers had something to fall on if Gan Gan Galaxy lost the whole time and didn’t use it.
@@vinesickle3383it wasnt a losers bracket, but a wildcard bracket. And only teams that lost earlier in the tourney could use it. So neither GGG nor wildfang could use it. Call it plot armour or whatever, you could say Ginga has the greatest will to win of any blader in the show, and thats what got him through this battle.
Beyblade g revolution Tyson vs Kai no other words needed way better then ginka vs kyoya. Required a whole 2 episodes and even after both of them took an explosion and got a draw they still got up and were ready to launch again to determine a champion
I always started with the metal saga and up, and never really had a chance to see the older beyblade when I was a kid, I definitely can get around to it now
Yeah, they let Gingka lose to someone like Julian who is later on weak compared to other bladers but NOT Kyoya? The vegeta of beyblade, remember Vegeta's first fight with Goku had Goku beat, broke his bones. Technically Vegeta won, why can't they do the same with Kyoya?
really bro best rivarly in anime history hahah, naruto n sasuke, zoro and sanji, goku and vegeta, heck tyson and kai, juno and asta i could keep going, you need to up your anime game if you legit think this even comes close, but not a bad video keep up the grind , worth a sub
I watched all of those but secondly I dont believe I ever said they have the best rivalry, its says biggest ROBBERY meaning who was supposed to win the battle.
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't mastered I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
Only time you can argue Vegeta was robbed was in Ressurrection F but even then he beat Frieza easily they just had Goku Steal the kill so Frieza aint destroy the planet, Goku has actually NEVER beat Vegeta in a fight, do I agree he should have more big character moments? Yes, but biggest robbery no
The biggest indicator that Kyoya lowdiffs Gingka [without plot intervention] is how he barely struggled taking down Damian post-arrangement, where he was even stronger than when Gingka faced him in the final battle.
Woah woah woah he didn't barely struggle against Damian he struggled just as much as Gingka did I'd argue he struggled even more because Leone ended up cracking.
@@theblitzblader3967he fought a stronger Damian. And he washed Damian and Damian had to awaken again mid fight he was pushed to his limits vs kyoya cause kyoya was low diffing him at first
@@dantemitsoyu977 Sure but the fact remains that Leone still cracked and Kyoya was damaged in that fight. He got pushed to his limits too. There's also the fact that there is nothing to indicate that Gingka and Kyoya weren't on the same level at the time. Also Gingka still fought a stronger opponent in Faust and a stronger force in the Spiral Core sure he had Masamunes help for faust and Ryuga's for the Spiral Core but Faust is literally the 2nd strongest in the series. Nobody except Ryuga could've defeated Faust in a 1v1. Gingka's pegasus literally cracked because it could barely handle the Spiral Core's power. The spiral core is literally powered by Tempo mind you.
What do you expect ginka is the main character bro's power of friendship can defeat a god. What can kyoya do to someone with the power of being a main character.
I don't think that Gingka's tie with Kyoya was rigged/due to plot armour. Gingka possessed a legendary beyblade, and when we are using a word like "legendary", it obviously has at least something to do with power. The beyblade was calling out to Gingka, so there was a natural bond between the two that needed to be refined, which is what Gingka did. He almost immediately unlocked a new special move after losing once to Masamune. The blader's spirit reaches the peak of its power through the power of friendship (which is what happened during Gingka's battle against Rago). The series does a good job telling us how significant it is through the battle in which Kenta is able to push Reiji back and make him feel concerned with a half-broken beyblade and no new special move. Gingka's ability to form deep bonds was so highly developed that he felt the misery of Leone at a time when Kyoya failed to do so. Gingka knew that his loss would mean the end of all of their efforts and attempts to work together. I don't find it surprising that his willpower, his love for his friends, and his legendary beyblade were powerful enough to tie against Kyoya. Plus, it's not as if Gingka wasn't able to compete at all before he got stuck by Kyoya's special move. He did break through Lion Gale Force Wall fairly easily. Even if Kyoya wasn't worried, I don't think that he would have intentionally weakened the intensity of that attack. He likes to fight directly and doesn't believe in playing mind games. Sure, you could argue that Gingka was always one step behind, but was this only the case in this battle? Remember the plot chains I mentioned earlier? Gingka was even one step behind Yu when they battled in Battle Bladers even though Gingka had already seen Yu struggle against an incomplete version of Stormbringer. Yet, he still waited a long time to use that move (or even attempt to use it). What about the fact that some of his extremely powerful abilities were never shown/used again in the show? He defeated Phoenix after using the moves of his friends that he had learnt through battling them. We never saw this again. Similarly, he used a mini vacuum against Yu in Battle Bladers, but this was never seen after that battle either. Hence, the limitations placed on him by the plot shouldn't be ignored. Also, the fact that Gingka beat Ryuga twice and Kyoya multiple times in the manga may have influenced the outcome of this battle as well. I just read the manga, and Gingka in the manga is almost unstoppable. All those people who complain about Gingka taking too long to finish his battles despite having powerful special moves will not find too many issues in the manga regarding this. But, again, I know that they had to make the battles enjoyable and gripping. Having said all this, I recognise the fact that others may have a different perspective and lean more towards the physical side (in terms of training and technique), so the viewpoint that is contrary to mine is perfectly reasonable. I am just putting forward my thoughts. The beauty of art lies in its ability to be almost reconfigured through our perceptions.
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
@@SeyeAwonuga Kenta lost because he wasn't powerful enough. When I am talking about mastering Pegasus, I am specifically talking about not being able to use his new beyblade properly. This only happened once Gingka was able to learn how to use his tip. This doesn't mean that he didn't increase his power level after this. Mastering a bey means being able to use all the power it currently has. That doesn't mean that the power level cannot grow. I've written a lengthier and more detailed comment about the battle elsewhere. I shall share it here.
@@SeyeAwonuga A point that is frequently brought up is that Gingka was not in control of most of the fight and was always one step behind. This would have been a compelling argument had this been an exception to the norm. However, Gingka is nerfed at the beginning of every single battle so that the battles can be exciting to watch. There's not a single battle I can think of (barring, perhaps, a few minor ones) in which Gingka was dominant from the get-go. Does that imply that Gingka was weaker than all of those bladers but somehow managed to win in the end? At one point of time in Metal Fusion, the same Gingka who had defeated 100 bladers (a feat that couldn't be accomplished by anyone other than Ryuga) and Kyoya was apparently about to lose before he used his special move against Kenta (the same Kenta who was struggling to win a regional tournament and did not even possess a special move). I shall discuss this further later on. Also, before thinking that Gingka was carried by his beyblade, we have to grasp the fact that the power and skills of the blader are what ultimately matter. For example, Ryo did not last even five minutes against Ryuga (who had recently acquired L-Drago) even though he had Pegasus (the bey that was made to defeat L-Drago). Earlier, Ryo defeated Gingka, who was using Pegasus, with a normal training beyblade. Sure, beys have power. But beyond a certain point, actually using it depends upon the blader.
@@SeyeAwonuga I don't think that Gingka's tie with Kyoya was rigged/due to plot armour. Gingka possessed a legendary beyblade, and when we are using a word like "legendary", it obviously has at least something to do with power. The beyblade was calling out to Gingka, so there was a natural bond between the two that needed to be refined, which is what Gingka did. He almost immediately unlocked a new special move after losing once to Masamune. The blader's spirit reaches the peak of its power through the power of friendship (which is what happened during Gingka's battle against Rago). The series does a good job telling us how significant it is through the battle in which Kenta is able to push Reiji back and make him feel concerned with a half-broken beyblade and no new special move. Gingka's ability to form deep bonds was so highly developed that he felt the misery of Leone at a time when Kyoya failed to do so. Gingka knew that his loss would mean the end of all of their efforts and attempts to work together. I don't find it surprising that his willpower, his love for his friends, and his legendary beyblade were powerful enough to tie against Kyoya. Plus, it's not as if Gingka wasn't able to compete at all before he got stuck by Kyoya's special move. He did break through Lion Gale Force Wall fairly easily. Even if Kyoya wasn't worried, I don't think that he would have intentionally weakened the intensity of that attack. He likes to fight directly and doesn't believe in playing mind games. Also, it is worth highlighting the fact that Gingka's spirit was always amongst the most powerful ones in the series. This is why the Dark Nebula used him to awaken Ryuga.
@@SeyeAwonuga Note: Spoilers ahead regarding the usage of a couple of Gingka's moves. One could argue that Gingka was always one step behind, but was this only the case in this battle? Remember the plot chains I mentioned earlier? Gingka was even one step behind Yu when they battled in Battle Bladers even though Gingka had already seen Yu struggle against an incomplete version of Stormbringer. Yet, he still waited a long time to use that move (or even attempt to use it). What about the fact that some of his extremely powerful abilities were never shown/used again in the show? He defeated Phoenix after using the moves of his friends that he had learnt through battling them. We never saw this again. Similarly, he used a mini vacuum against Yu in Battle Bladers, but this was never seen after that battle either. Hence, the limitations placed on him by the plot shouldn't be ignored.
@@dantemitsoyu977 🤣 In fury ryuga smacks him lol Ryuga is objectively better BTW this is a statement from gingka(tbh I have king above kyoya ) In metal masters, ryuga slams easily Kyoya hardly beat damien while L drago one shotted through tempos spiral dimension which gingkas pegasus and masamunes strike together both failed at that point. In fusion, ryuga did not use lightning L dragos ultimate power(spin steal) and he did not use the full power he had because he agreed to face kyoya with only the own power it had, which implies he wasn't making use of his full potential, ik this because during the first half of the fight kyoya was getting bodied over and over but afterwards they both were going almost equal until the dark power took over.
Yea you are technically right but also it was a full 4v4 continuous battle so technically he didn’t as well because he had to fight multiple opponents not just one, that fight was specifically setup in that way so tsubasa could finally breakfree right? I think he won the final battle
Anyone who has brain knows that kyoya is stronger than ginga in metal masters, like kyoya folded stronger version of damian than the version ginga was fighting against...
@@sayejutsu-6009kyoya didn't train or get any amps to face that upgraded Damian. If gingka fought that Damian he would've gotten washed, Only won the first time because the power of friendship. Gingka got 3 amps in that fight with Damian out the ass. Kyoya always has to crack his bey or else he washes everyone. And even while injured he used his special move in the tag match while gingka barely could.
@@demonthesoule you're wrong he wouldn't have gotten washed. How much stronger do you think Damian got is the real question. Also, Dr.Ziggurat called Gigka’s bey the strongest right-rotating bey. Although you can make an argument that Kyoya can be included in that discussion, the same can’t be said for Damian.
@@sayejutsu-6009 definitely would've gotten washed, same for his fight with ryuga, outside help is his special move. And bullshit " me and my friends didn't get this far for nothing " boost while chained up by Damian is proof of that. Strongest right rotating bey is debatable , kyoya literally had gingka in the trash can with reverse wind, and gingka got 3 amps in under 2 minutes. And then in the fight against him and Nile , masmune had to use gingka and tag against Nile to even win. Ridiculous
@@sayejutsu-6009 also the boost from the arrangements are massive, Zeo went from matching masamune to pushing him back from sheer motivation. Zeo the same guy who before arrangement locked down L Drago for at least a minute before his special move failed. And he's supposed to be the weakest in star breaker? Laughable
Smart? He out prepped and strategized him the entire battle, he was prepared for every situation and had multiple backup plans, he lost to plot armor honestly😂
I hate how Ziggurat states that Ginka is the stronger bladder with right rotation Bey when it's obvious that besides twisted tempo the strongest right rotation Bey is Leone(only talking about metal masters not including fury). Like he literally beat Damian who at that moment was stronger than Ginka and the funny thing is that Ginka just won against Damian due to plot 😂. Which Again I remind you that Damian was weaker than the one Kyoya gained a victory…
Kiyoya schould be winning this. Niles vs Masamune could be a tie instead because how can it be that he has no chance of winning the battle alone or get atleast a tie.
I think he loss a few battled though without cheaters like Nile, Klaus, and Chris, only one was Neo with enhancements but Gingka and Ryuga were able to beat 2 stronger bladers who both had enhancements in Jack & Damian, unfortunately masamune did always lose alot
He is, but there are a few battles that are choreographed horribly then and he wins strictly because of plot conveniences like this one, its okay to lose battles and such but not for him apparently cause this was a blatant robbery
@@JariusKnows I mean that’s true but when you think about it, all kyoya cared about was beating Gingka, Gingka cared about being the best, and that inevitably was kyoyas downfall.
Ok the reason gingka will always beat or draw with kyoya is because he can just adapt more then kyoya can train kyoya will always become stronger but gingka will always adapt to his strength gingka is always getting stronger no matter what because Pegasus is the ultimate bey he is litearlly the face of a true good blader in his universe still kyoya is top 4 forever and honestly I think he should of bet ryuga
I agree with a majority of that honestly, this battle Gingka just seemed in checkmate though, he definitely the goat in terms of adapting and having pegasus on top of that makes him a force for sure
@@JariusKnows yes I understand what you meant but the reason he’ll never win is because Pegasus will always adapt and fight back harder and outshine in spirit as gingka is one of the only people to truely understand his bet and beyblade in general
I’m tired of this kyoya robbery thing. He was always second to gingka. And in this fight in particular gingka hadn’t even mastered Pegasus. Kyoya is lucky that gingka hadn’t figured out Pegasus fully yet.
Thats a weak excuse, kyoya never seen or battled his new galaxy pegasus at the time and still had way more preparation and strategy than Gingka going into the fight and outplayed his every move during the fight, gingka got to watch kyoya battle and use his new special move and all, you can say long term yes Gingka was always going to be the best I would never disagree with that, but in this SPECIFIC fight no one can convince Kyoya wasn’t supposed to win easily at that
@JariusKnows bro you ain't wrong I believe ginga should have lost to kyoya in the world championship only because ginga hasn't mastered pegasus and forgot about beyblade spirit not to mentioned he didn't have a bey for a long period of time, in that time kyoya has been training like a madman going into the second season to beat ginga but If kyoya had beat ginga in world championships he wouldn't be satisfied until he beat ginga at his best he wasn't robbed though ginga got lucky by being able to tap into his full power for a moment in order to get a draw,
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
@@JariusKnows it’s not a weak excuse. And Kyoya has seen Pegasus. Not in person but enough so that he had strategies. I guarantee Kyoya was watching Gingka and his previous battles. And people seem to forget the one thing that was talked about in the first episode. The bladers spirit. Gingka has shown he’s the best at tapping into that power time and time again. But people acting like it came out of nowhere.
@@SeyeAwonuga Kenta and Kyoya had mastered their beys. They were at their limits of power at the time and they lost. So it’s not a weak argument. While Gingka wasn’t at his limit or mastered Pegasus. So that’s why he was able to draw.
On the contrary, Ginga was nerfed in metal masters to make him more competitive with Kyoya, since the writers probably thought it would be boring if Ginga was never challenged after Fusion. Which should have been the case if he progressed as you would expect normally.
Not disputing that, they both fought harder opponents Im talking about in this battle specifically Kyoya clearly out battled him in terms of preparation/strategy and even power/strength. Gingka is just unable to lose official battles cause he didn’t have control for even 5% of the fight, should of loss multiple times prior and still got a draw
@@fariswaqar8620 Plot armor was crazy😂, I imagine him as if Ash from pokemon went to every new region and won all the final tournaments each and everytime, Gingka definitely still a goat though
@@fariswaqar8620 I didn’t really like it at first until they made Kenta the new Legendary blader because then it felt like all the training he did following ryuga paid off, like a passing of the torch moment
kyoya is the strongest user of a stock beyblade
I mean you could argue proto nemisis is the strongest stock bey but Rago is op by virtue of being the big bad
@@t.w.videos1739Proto Nemesis was not a store bought bey let alone that bey picked Rago lol
@@lawrencecharles977 I wouldn’t even count it as a stock bey in the show. To me a stock bey is like the ones osamu and all the npc have.
Shoutout to my boi Nile who went undefeated outside of the tag team where the writers had to nerf his special move, have Gingka AND Masamune double team him AND they had to do it BEFORE he even used his special move. Dude was Kyouya's true number 2, and let Kyouya get as far as he did
Yea nile one of the best characters
the plot screwed him over, in the battle against india, mystic zone was so fast, no one even knew what happened. Then in the 2v2 he had to charge it for some reason
Well said, Kyoya always been my favorite character in the show, it’s a shame really he got cheated a lot during the show.
Facts he was mine too, he had moments to shine at least, they just made sure it was against everyone but Gingka lol
I was hyped when he used gale force in the air and yelled " CLIMB HIGHER LEONE" and the fukin bey started climbing higher then pegasus mid air. Absolutely insane.
Also his English VA was killing it in that battle, He made kyoya sound like he was fighting for it. And he cooked with all the lines he made kyoyas new shit a threat.
That’s exactly how I was, I thought he was finally about to get the job done😂
its clearly shown in the team battle after that kyoya is stronger. ginga couldnt even use his speacial move without masamunes help while kyoya not only could but he temporarily block BOTH OF THEM.
I didnt even want to mention the 2v2 cause kyoya > Gingka nile > masamune but it doesnt matter at all😂, they were never going to lose
That's the reason why Leone broke during the battle because Leone was more pressured than Pegasus and that's the reason why they lost.
@@JariusKnowsyea which cause kyoya beyblade to break which cause him to lose
He isn’t stronger.
@@damonestephens8722 there is nothing in that battle that can show that in that moment Kyoya wasn’t stronger than Gingka, plot armor saved him
Definitely a robbery cuz bro there no way he overpowers the reverse wind strike pure plot armor
Exactly battle should of ended there
Battle should have stopped even before, Gingka's best special move at that time got negged by Kyoya's 4th best special move. Kyoya was easily winning, not even close
literally bro plot armor is madly in love with gingka. It was so obv kyoya was gonna win this battle but alll gingka had to do was scream and plot armor saves the day
@@texjify I'd even argue that Gingka vs Nile should have been a closer fight (Gingka was probably stronger, since this version of Nile was a lot weaker than the one who stopped black excalibur, but I still think Gingka vs Nile would have been debatable)
Boy you know Kyoya the real goat out here, he def got robbed in the masters match. But I liked that the writers never had him lose a 1v1 to Gingka after that match, so it’s bittersweet to me. Great video
This Gingka/Kyoya situation is the Tyson/Kai G-Revolution scenario all over again, and I'm all for it.
I’ve seen a few people mention that, I was only fortunate enough to see the metal saga on up when I was a kid but now I have the time to go back and watch so I’ll put it on my to do list
@@JariusKnowsoriginal beyblade is way better
@JariusKnows I grew up on the original and even ran it back to watch all three seasons. But I'm halfway through V-Force for the second time. I definitely recommend it.
@@stevieg3929 already know
@@stevieg3929I didn’t like it personally
imagine gan gan galaxy if kyoya and ryuga were on it as regulars
2-0 every single team easily😂
That team solos everyone 😭😭😭😭
They would’ve cancelled the world championships probably. Who is gonna waste time and money to go up against the dragon emperor, the king of beasts and plot armour personified.😂
Its not gonna be a world championship, its gonna be a team japan vs team world which does sound pretty dope
Ryuga alone solos. Kyoya is over kill
i absolutely agree. Wildfang should have won and gan gan galaxy should have gone into the wild card tournament after which they face Excaliber and garcias before facing wildfang again in the semis. Even as a kid i felt like it was weird that galaxy pegasus survived the reverse wind strike
Kyoya was better than Gingka in every capacity in Metal Masters.
The show refused to let people think that though
The vid was fire kyoya worked so hard thru the series just to be stuck at second to gingka till this day since I was a kid knew that man got robbed he’s far from my favorite but i always respected the amount of work he put in
Kyoya was always my favorite, I knew since a kid he was robbed
Kyoya is the strongest natural blader. He didn’t have legendary star fragments like the original Pegasus and L-Drago. He should’ve beaten Ryuga in Fusion and Gingka in Masters.
Not natural, but much hardworking than gingka
He worked hard for everything, even at the 2nd fight with gingka, he trained his ass off
but the main character plot ruined him the same as ryuga
@@Cassian718 He is natural you goof. Leone is a storebought bey whereas Pegasus and L-Drago are blessed beys
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 I'm talking about kyoya himself that he is hardworking
That is so wrong L DRAGO outright was stronger than him
@@axillaryclinical nah it wasn't
On a weird way , this was the season were Kyoya was second strongest or tied with Ginka thru the whole Metal Master Saga :
- Not only he was very strong , he shurg off Tsubasa dark powers like it was nothing
- Kyoya was the closest blader from here that could beat Ginka
- Damian whose a power house and Top 4 blader , barely lost to Ginka , and then he got a lot more stronger , and Kyoya just beats him up at the spot
- I do feel that Kyoya vs Ginka should had been "THE FINALS"
I understand to an extent why it wasnt the finals but thats why I said if they had them go back throughout the losers bracket it would of been fine
@@JariusKnows Also , thankfully the anime they made Kyoya really strong. In the manga however , Kyoya is pretty much a jobber , he only has like 3-4 wins and does not even have a big win. The anime does justice to Kyoya and show us how badass and strong he is.
Dude didnt just beat damien, he had control of the fight more times than damien, whereas gingka was in the back foot the entire battle before he called out stardust driver
i think a better way to have this, is to have masamune win his battle against nile. for some reason dude forgot about his training.
then have gingka finally lose against kyoya as gingka did not develope alot of special moves for galaxy pegasus as he did for storm pegasus. this makes gingkas dig deep for when they battle again in the 2v2 where they win.
or do as you said and have gan gan galaxy get eliminated, so they can come through the losers bracket or wild card.
11:02 slight correction to the World Championships format, the losers bracket (which WangHuZhong won) is originally a wildcard bracket for teams who lost in the first/second rounds. As GGGalaxy vs WildFang was in the 3rd or 4th round, whoever that lost here would be out entirely.
Unless the beyblade story was rewritten, it’ll be cool if GGGalaxy fought through the lower bracket & fight Excalibur in the Lower bracket final, A Block final vs Wild Fang (redemption for the lost) & fight crazy strong Starbreaker in the Finals.
Man Gingka and Kyoya's children gonna be embarrassed when these two still wanna battle it out in their golden years...
Lmaoo
Gingka and kyoya would have 2-0 every team if he had joined Japan
Wouldn’t have been a sweet time
Facts, and they should of had Ryuga as a 3rd😂
Damn atleast give the other teams a chance.
Kyoya wouldnt been nearly as strong if he sticked with team Japan unless he had some intense training elsewhere
tuff video, need more kyoya vids
Will do, Kyoya the goat
The real robbery is not showing the battle between them on the very last episode.
In my heart kyoya won
This battle is LEGENDARY
Facts
When i was a kid i was a Gingka fan but EVEN THEN i was like "ok he's going to lose" And when it ended in a draw i couldn't understand what Gingka did to end like this
Kyoya should have won that particular battle the only reason he didnt was because of ginga beyblade spirit the will to not lose, even saying that kyoya is not stronger than ginga overall but in this battle though, he was ahead of ginga and was more focused of the two ginga should have lost here to highlight the fact that 1 he hasnt mastered pegasus or be able to utilise 100 percent of his power 2 since he beat ryuga hes slacked of his training forgot about bey spirit and has only relied purely on his bey power to win and 3 hes not supposed to struggle like this if hes the best or is a equal to ryuga, the fact that ryuga took one good look at ginga in their rematch and said you havent even mastered your bey is telling because that shows up to that point the writers are telling us ginga was not using pegasus 100 percent at all
It’s because Japan would be out maybe if masamune best Nile then kyoya beats ginga
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
Almost every fight from Gingka starts with him down in the drain and then magically hes on top, just to show how good the others are.
Plot armor was Gingka begging galaxy Pegasus to unleash it's secret ahh power since he didn't master Pegasus one bit, even then. Crying for Pegasus led to the legendary bey unleashing a huge amount of power to counter leone.
Kyoya would have stomped jingka logically without plot and would have even more if he had a legendary/forbidden bey as well
Ryuga atleast masters L drago to the point of getting rid of the dark power to bring out L drago's true power so he gets an excuse and respect
Jingka got carried by galaxy against kyoya, just like he did with masamune
Ryu
JariusKnows: Main character cant lose.
me: He lost to ryuga 3 times, lost in a tournament in china the toreamon tag team battle, lost to Europe Festival Warriors, lost to f*cking Osamu (A background character), lost to Argo Garcia and he lost to Helios, got his bey completely f*cked in the manga with his battle with ryuga. (The first time they battled)
Drassbass: Didnt listen to the video, I said “official capacity” Ryuga ALL Exhibitions anytime something is really on the line he wins, Europe Festival of Warriors EXHIBITION they just wanted to introduce Julian and as soon as they battled in a tournament he won, the garcia battle was a continuous 4v4 so technically he did lose but also didnt because he fought multiple opponents consecutively not just 1 which by the way the opponent attacked him off guard, and lastly in metal fury the goal was never the tournaments or anything it was to find the next legendary bladers so they all could work together, so in doing that when they went places of course those bladers unlocked there powers and had to showcase their strength of being a legendary blader, its a entirely different end goal so he isnt needed to win to push the plot forward like the two prior sagas
@@JariusKnows Ok touche. But what about Ryuga's and Gingka's first battle. Keep in mind that this is a 1v1. In the Anime, Pegasus got Cooked hardcore. In the MANGA, Pegasus was VIOLATED (No pun intended), the pegasus bey got destroyed literally by the GOAT Himself, straight ripped to shreds. IK this is non-canon and its a 1v1, but what about Helios sol blaze completely smashing galaxy pegasus.
He lost to ryuga twice. Once in metal fusion and metal fury.
10:27 Only in the First & Second Rounds, according to Wang Hu Zhong.
This is the Third Round.
yea they scamed my kyoya in this fight, imagine kyoya and neo or smth ( this orange guy) vs julian' team
if we being honest gingka can really use galaxy nova and it can over real quick
The true lion gail force wall stops it lol 😭
kyoya vs ginga is just a more child friendly version of Kai vs Tyson
Yeah. Those boys went to galactic level for it.
Yeah a lot of people do say Kyoya got robbed in this fight. I personally believe this to be true as well but at the same I didn't want Gingka to lose to him so I got the best of both worlds in this fight. From a logical stand point Yeah Kyoya got robbed. From a plot standpoint this was really the only thing they could've done. Besides this isn't the only time Gingka has been able to power through an opponent who was widly prepared for him. I will say this though by then end of metal Masters Gingka would be slightly stronger than Kyoya for sure very slightly but still slightly for sure. I can back this up too if you want
So would you like to see my Tier-List for the top 5 Strongest Bladers in Metal Masters. You seem like you know Beyblade powerscaling or at the very least will be open to ideas lol.
I agree with everything you said, I dont think Kyoya should have been stronger then him necessarily other than this specific battle and moment of preparation, long term I understand why Gingka won and why he is the strongest. I just see it as if Ash from pokemon every single new region and pokemon league he entered he won them all but when he out in the woods he so beatable😂, Im open to hearing your top 5 though
@@JariusKnows Oh word! TH-cam doesn't show me when people reply like 90% of the time so that's why i'm 9 days late lol I hope you'll still see this though lol.
So for my top 5 in Metal Masters. I'll be using mostly feats by the end of the series to make points because those would obviously be the most relevant.
1. Ryuga: Is ranked here because he by far had the best feats in Masters. Was uncontested in Masters. Effortlessley beat Jack. Easily broke through Faust's special move without even needing to call upon his own while Gingka and Masamune would've been trapped. Was able to absorb the spiral force core energy and didn't have L-Drago crack like Pegasus did.
2. Faust: Faust is ranked here because Even though he doesn't have much in the battle department. What little feats he does have is more than enough to get him placed here. Took on both Gingka and Masamune and gave them an extremely tough time might've even won had it not been for Ryuga's interference. Is stated to be the strongest Spiral Force member obviously. The energy he output was enough to make Galaxy Pegasus crack even while Ryuga was helping Gingka stop the Spiral Core.
3. Gingka: I know a lot of people will put Gingka/Kyoya and feel the two are equally matched but I feel Gingka would've just been the slightest bit stronger. Gingka ALWAYS showed that his bey spirit always made him more resilient to taking punishment during battles. Gingka during his battle with Damian didn't have Pegasus crack while Kyoya did have Leone crack during his battle with Damian. While yes he fought a stronger version of Damian than Gingka did at the time. Gingka still had a stronger force to deal with in Faust and the Spiral Core. Spiral Core would of course be stronger than Damian due to the fact Faust himself is stronger than Damian and it took both Gingka and Masamune to stop Faust himself and it took Both Gingka and Ryuga to stop the Spiral Core which Faust was powering.
4. Kyoya: Him beating an even stronger Damian than Gingka fought is basically all that needs to be said simply because in Masters it's his best feat. Though he did struggle a good amount in that fight
5. Masamune: OK NOW HEAR ME OUT. I feel like a lot of people be sleeping on my boy Masamune but he literally would be in the top 5 by the end of the series. Masamune is here simply because of the fact that him and Gingka being able to beat Faust together means he would literally HAVE to be relative to Gingka. Neither Gingka nor Masamune could've beat Faust by themself that much is obvious. However if Masamune was massively weaker than Gingka they could not have won that fight. Faust is literally the 2nd strongest in Masters and the gap between him and everyone else is rather large. There is also the fact that for a split second during his 1v1 with Faust Masamune was able to for a spit second start pushing Faust back during the battle. Also no other charachter(minus the ones presented above on the list) fought as high power of an opponent as Faust was during the end of Masters.
6. Damian: Had to at least tell you where I rank Damian lol. Def feel like he would still just barely lose to end of Masters Masamune though. They would both be knocked out for sure but I feel like Masamune would just by a literal inch be able to pull off a dub.
Let me point this out Kyoya vs Gingka Kyoya outright was stronger than Gingka but was not faster than him as Gingka use all his speed to counter Kyoya power Kyoya was using its own speed to force Pegasus down Pegasus being a speed type over clocked it Kyoya bey was going the Opposite Way, Pegasus with speed alone was able to just overpower his speed leading them both to clash at the end
Bro kyoya had to fight against the main character, that's rough
Honestly the whole fight was a mess for both teams. I feel this fight would’ve been better if Gingka used some of his other moves like storm bringer. While kyoya has gotten stronger Gingka knows all these attacks except the new special move. It’s like their afraid of making him look smart instead he just powers through stuff. Then Kyoya not getting information galaxy Pegasus like bro what if it’s special move wasn’t an aerial attack then what. Plus dude your a defense type not an attack type you fighting in a way Leo isn’t designed for. Either way I do like Kyoya and Gingka there both the goats in their own way. But in my opinion the person who got robbed more then Kyoya was Yu man couldn’t got 3 ep without someone breaking his bey or him losing.
And if the got to fight Excalibur. They completely waste them. Nile can defend against Claus’ raw power and if Benkei uses maximum stampede. He can cut through grand Deucalion like he did with Kyoya back in fusion though they may have to lose so Kyoya can fight Julien but still the entire matchup is in Wildfang’s favor.
They aint want them to win at all😂
@@JariusKnows Yeah but dang when you mentioned the losers bracket. That hit hard. The writers had something to fall on if Gan Gan Galaxy lost the whole time and didn’t use it.
@@vinesickle3383it wasnt a losers bracket, but a wildcard bracket. And only teams that lost earlier in the tourney could use it. So neither GGG nor wildfang could use it. Call it plot armour or whatever, you could say Ginga has the greatest will to win of any blader in the show, and thats what got him through this battle.
I just know kyoya was dicking down madoka behind gingka’s back
Lmaoo nah this crazy😂😂
Fact's
Madoka isn't even Gingka's girl anymore, she is more attracted to Tsubasa.
Beyblade g revolution Tyson vs Kai no other words needed way better then ginka vs kyoya. Required a whole 2 episodes and even after both of them took an explosion and got a draw they still got up and were ready to launch again to determine a champion
I always started with the metal saga and up, and never really had a chance to see the older beyblade when I was a kid, I definitely can get around to it now
They never let kyoya beat ginkga that was weird in my opinion
Not even once is wild fr
Yeah, they let Gingka lose to someone like Julian who is later on weak compared to other bladers but NOT Kyoya? The vegeta of beyblade, remember Vegeta's first fight with Goku had Goku beat, broke his bones. Technically Vegeta won, why can't they do the same with Kyoya?
really bro best rivarly in anime history hahah, naruto n sasuke, zoro and sanji, goku and vegeta, heck tyson and kai, juno and asta i could keep going, you need to up your anime game if you legit think this even comes close, but not a bad video keep up the grind , worth a sub
I watched all of those but secondly I dont believe I ever said they have the best rivalry, its says biggest ROBBERY meaning who was supposed to win the battle.
@@JariusKnowsthere is always someone dumb who mentions other anime characters in another anime's video
Gingka just screamed and undid Kyoya’s scream, AND all three special moves, without any of his own. The most BS thing in all of Beyblade.
Facts I was pissed😂
Amazing video ❤
Appreciate it🤟🏾
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't mastered I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
Japan should be Gingka, Kyoya, and Ryuga, and let Ryuga travel around the world as he likes since they will 2-0 every team
The biggest robbery u say? Did u all forget the time vegeta was beating the crap out of frieza and goku just straight up robbed the kill
Only time you can argue Vegeta was robbed was in Ressurrection F but even then he beat Frieza easily they just had Goku Steal the kill so Frieza aint destroy the planet, Goku has actually NEVER beat Vegeta in a fight, do I agree he should have more big character moments? Yes, but biggest robbery no
The biggest indicator that Kyoya lowdiffs Gingka [without plot intervention] is how he barely struggled taking down Damian post-arrangement, where he was even stronger than when Gingka faced him in the final battle.
They only let kyoya be HIM when it was against anyone else😂
Woah woah woah he didn't barely struggle against Damian he struggled just as much as Gingka did I'd argue he struggled even more because Leone ended up cracking.
Low diffed is a stretch but yeah he would have won
@@theblitzblader3967he fought a stronger Damian. And he washed Damian and Damian had to awaken again mid fight he was pushed to his limits vs kyoya cause kyoya was low diffing him at first
@@dantemitsoyu977 Sure but the fact remains that Leone still cracked and Kyoya was damaged in that fight. He got pushed to his limits too. There's also the fact that there is nothing to indicate that Gingka and Kyoya weren't on the same level at the time. Also Gingka still fought a stronger opponent in Faust and a stronger force in the Spiral Core sure he had Masamunes help for faust and Ryuga's for the Spiral Core but Faust is literally the 2nd strongest in the series. Nobody except Ryuga could've defeated Faust in a 1v1. Gingka's pegasus literally cracked because it could barely handle the Spiral Core's power. The spiral core is literally powered by Tempo mind you.
Kyoya is an honorary African.
For sure
What do you expect ginka is the main character bro's power of friendship can defeat a god. What can kyoya do to someone with the power of being a main character.
Nile is also him
No Nile hate ever from me, he didnt lose at all, he was cool as hell😂
Kyoya deserved better
Real talk
Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.
I don't think that Gingka's tie with Kyoya was rigged/due to plot armour. Gingka possessed a legendary beyblade, and when we are using a word like "legendary", it obviously has at least something to do with power. The beyblade was calling out to Gingka, so there was a natural bond between the two that needed to be refined, which is what Gingka did. He almost immediately unlocked a new special move after losing once to Masamune. The blader's spirit reaches the peak of its power through the power of friendship (which is what happened during Gingka's battle against Rago). The series does a good job telling us how significant it is through the battle in which Kenta is able to push Reiji back and make him feel concerned with a half-broken beyblade and no new special move. Gingka's ability to form deep bonds was so highly developed that he felt the misery of Leone at a time when Kyoya failed to do so. Gingka knew that his loss would mean the end of all of their efforts and attempts to work together. I don't find it surprising that his willpower, his love for his friends, and his legendary beyblade were powerful enough to tie against Kyoya. Plus, it's not as if Gingka wasn't able to compete at all before he got stuck by Kyoya's special move. He did break through Lion Gale Force Wall fairly easily. Even if Kyoya wasn't worried, I don't think that he would have intentionally weakened the intensity of that attack. He likes to fight directly and doesn't believe in playing mind games. Sure, you could argue that Gingka was always one step behind, but was this only the case in this battle? Remember the plot chains I mentioned earlier? Gingka was even one step behind Yu when they battled in Battle Bladers even though Gingka had already seen Yu struggle against an incomplete version of Stormbringer. Yet, he still waited a long time to use that move (or even attempt to use it). What about the fact that some of his extremely powerful abilities were never shown/used again in the show? He defeated Phoenix after using the moves of his friends that he had learnt through battling them. We never saw this again. Similarly, he used a mini vacuum against Yu in Battle Bladers, but this was never seen after that battle either. Hence, the limitations placed on him by the plot shouldn't be ignored.
Also, the fact that Gingka beat Ryuga twice and Kyoya multiple times in the manga may have influenced the outcome of this battle as well. I just read the manga, and Gingka in the manga is almost unstoppable. All those people who complain about Gingka taking too long to finish his battles despite having powerful special moves will not find too many issues in the manga regarding this. But, again, I know that they had to make the battles enjoyable and gripping.
Having said all this, I recognise the fact that others may have a different perspective and lean more towards the physical side (in terms of training and technique), so the viewpoint that is contrary to mine is perfectly reasonable. I am just putting forward my thoughts. The beauty of art lies in its ability to be almost reconfigured through our perceptions.
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
@@SeyeAwonuga Kenta lost because he wasn't powerful enough. When I am talking about mastering Pegasus, I am specifically talking about not being able to use his new beyblade properly. This only happened once Gingka was able to learn how to use his tip. This doesn't mean that he didn't increase his power level after this. Mastering a bey means being able to use all the power it currently has. That doesn't mean that the power level cannot grow.
I've written a lengthier and more detailed comment about the battle elsewhere. I shall share it here.
@@SeyeAwonuga A point that is frequently brought up is that Gingka was not in control of most of the fight and was always one step behind. This would have been a compelling argument had this been an exception to the norm. However, Gingka is nerfed at the beginning of every single battle so that the battles can be exciting to watch. There's not a single battle I can think of (barring, perhaps, a few minor ones) in which Gingka was dominant from the get-go. Does that imply that Gingka was weaker than all of those bladers but somehow managed to win in the end? At one point of time in Metal Fusion, the same Gingka who had defeated 100 bladers (a feat that couldn't be accomplished by anyone other than Ryuga) and Kyoya was apparently about to lose before he used his special move against Kenta (the same Kenta who was struggling to win a regional tournament and did not even possess a special move). I shall discuss this further later on. Also, before thinking that Gingka was carried by his beyblade, we have to grasp the fact that the power and skills of the blader are what ultimately matter. For example, Ryo did not last even five minutes against Ryuga (who had recently acquired L-Drago) even though he had Pegasus (the bey that was made to defeat L-Drago). Earlier, Ryo defeated Gingka, who was using Pegasus, with a normal training beyblade. Sure, beys have power. But beyond a certain point, actually using it depends upon the blader.
@@SeyeAwonuga I don't think that Gingka's tie with Kyoya was rigged/due to plot armour. Gingka possessed a legendary beyblade, and when we are using a word like "legendary", it obviously has at least something to do with power. The beyblade was calling out to Gingka, so there was a natural bond between the two that needed to be refined, which is what Gingka did. He almost immediately unlocked a new special move after losing once to Masamune. The blader's spirit reaches the peak of its power through the power of friendship (which is what happened during Gingka's battle against Rago). The series does a good job telling us how significant it is through the battle in which Kenta is able to push Reiji back and make him feel concerned with a half-broken beyblade and no new special move. Gingka's ability to form deep bonds was so highly developed that he felt the misery of Leone at a time when Kyoya failed to do so. Gingka knew that his loss would mean the end of all of their efforts and attempts to work together. I don't find it surprising that his willpower, his love for his friends, and his legendary beyblade were powerful enough to tie against Kyoya. Plus, it's not as if Gingka wasn't able to compete at all before he got stuck by Kyoya's special move. He did break through Lion Gale Force Wall fairly easily. Even if Kyoya wasn't worried, I don't think that he would have intentionally weakened the intensity of that attack. He likes to fight directly and doesn't believe in playing mind games. Also, it is worth highlighting the fact that Gingka's spirit was always amongst the most powerful ones in the series. This is why the Dark Nebula used him to awaken Ryuga.
@@SeyeAwonuga Note: Spoilers ahead regarding the usage of a couple of Gingka's moves.
One could argue that Gingka was always one step behind, but was this only the case in this battle? Remember the plot chains I mentioned earlier? Gingka was even one step behind Yu when they battled in Battle Bladers even though Gingka had already seen Yu struggle against an incomplete version of Stormbringer. Yet, he still waited a long time to use that move (or even attempt to use it). What about the fact that some of his extremely powerful abilities were never shown/used again in the show? He defeated Phoenix after using the moves of his friends that he had learnt through battling them. We never saw this again. Similarly, he used a mini vacuum against Yu in Battle Bladers, but this was never seen after that battle either. Hence, the limitations placed on him by the plot shouldn't be ignored.
King Leon reverse wind strike should have soloed gingka
EASILY
Crazy how ryuga 1shots
He bodied gingka, kyoya and that other legendary blader back to back to back, a true menace
@@JariusKnows facts
You can say kyoya was stronger then base ryuga in fusion and stronger at the end of fury
@@dantemitsoyu977 🤣
In fury ryuga smacks him lol
Ryuga is objectively better BTW this is a statement from gingka(tbh I have king above kyoya )
In metal masters, ryuga slams easily
Kyoya hardly beat damien while L drago one shotted through tempos spiral dimension which gingkas pegasus and masamunes strike together both failed at that point.
In fusion, ryuga did not use lightning L dragos ultimate power(spin steal) and he did not use the full power he had because he agreed to face kyoya with only the own power it had, which implies he wasn't making use of his full potential, ik this because during the first half of the fight kyoya was getting bodied over and over but afterwards they both were going almost equal until the dark power took over.
Deadass Kyoya could beat Ryuga. I’m sorry he could even beat ginka😭
Metal Masters Kyoya in my opinion is clearly above Metal Masters Gingka
I disagree. Kyoya was trying to act like an attack-type when his bey is a defense-type. He needed to be that strong to match Gingka
I think so as well
@@sayejutsu-6009Kyoya>Gingka in master's cope
May i ask how old you guys are. I still love beyblade and i am 23 😮
Same age
Isnt Ginka an attack type? How he living this long
Exactly Kyoya was looking like the attack type, Gingka should have been loss multiple times😂
@@JariusKnows crazy plot armor 😭
Plot armor made him a defense mode.
Didn’t gingka lose to Argo in the world tournament?
Yea you are technically right but also it was a full 4v4 continuous battle so technically he didn’t as well because he had to fight multiple opponents not just one, that fight was specifically setup in that way so tsubasa could finally breakfree right? I think he won the final battle
He caught him by surprise
@@Vmar0Still counts by the Garcia's rule
@zeroxenoverse9251 true but it was a cheap shot
Anyone who has brain knows that kyoya is stronger than ginga in metal masters, like kyoya folded stronger version of damian than the version ginga was fighting against...
What exactly does that prove. I guarantee Gingka would do the same
@@sayejutsu-6009kyoya didn't train or get any amps to face that upgraded Damian. If gingka fought that Damian he would've gotten washed, Only won the first time because the power of friendship. Gingka got 3 amps in that fight with Damian out the ass. Kyoya always has to crack his bey or else he washes everyone. And even while injured he used his special move in the tag match while gingka barely could.
@@demonthesoule you're wrong he wouldn't have gotten washed. How much stronger do you think Damian got is the real question. Also, Dr.Ziggurat called Gigka’s bey the strongest right-rotating bey. Although you can make an argument that Kyoya can be included in that discussion, the same can’t be said for Damian.
@@sayejutsu-6009 definitely would've gotten washed, same for his fight with ryuga, outside help is his special move. And bullshit " me and my friends didn't get this far for nothing " boost while chained up by Damian is proof of that. Strongest right rotating bey is debatable , kyoya literally had gingka in the trash can with reverse wind, and gingka got 3 amps in under 2 minutes. And then in the fight against him and Nile , masmune had to use gingka and tag against Nile to even win. Ridiculous
@@sayejutsu-6009 also the boost from the arrangements are massive, Zeo went from matching masamune to pushing him back from sheer motivation. Zeo the same guy who before arrangement locked down L Drago for at least a minute before his special move failed. And he's supposed to be the weakest in star breaker? Laughable
If kyoya was a little smart he would have busted gingka.
Smart? He out prepped and strategized him the entire battle, he was prepared for every situation and had multiple backup plans, he lost to plot armor honestly😂
I hate how Ziggurat states that Ginka is the stronger bladder with right rotation Bey when it's obvious that besides twisted tempo the strongest right rotation Bey is Leone(only talking about metal masters not including fury). Like he literally beat Damian who at that moment was stronger than Ginka and the funny thing is that Ginka just won against Damian due to plot 😂. Which Again I remind you that Damian was weaker than the one Kyoya gained a victory…
Facts😂😂, its like Kyoya could on be HIM against everyone but Gingka
In fury last episode, kyoya defeated all legendary bladers before battling gingka
Kiyoya schould be winning this.
Niles vs Masamune could be a tie instead because how can it be that he has no chance of winning the battle alone or get atleast a tie.
Masamune actually loss alot of his big/important battles nile, klaus, zeo, chris to be real he always loss so I wasn’t surprised😂
@@JariusKnows But I think Niles never lost.
They could give him atleast one itch in this show and something good for Masamunes statistic😂
@@danielgh536 yea your right cause as soon as he loss that I knew kyoya wasnt winning as well, they weren’t getting 2-0😂😂
@@JariusKnows As soon ginga gave a motivation speak to masamune he should NOT have sold that😂
What about Masamune because he gets unnecessary for no reason due to his personality and many of his losses are due to cheating
I think he loss a few battled though without cheaters like Nile, Klaus, and Chris, only one was Neo with enhancements but Gingka and Ryuga were able to beat 2 stronger bladers who both had enhancements in Jack & Damian, unfortunately masamune did always lose alot
@@JariusKnows yeah but he still has a impressive win:lose ratio not as good Gingka or ryuga but good nonetheless
The downplay on Gingka Is Wild, He’s him
Bruh most of his wins are bullshit like this one
He is, but there are a few battles that are choreographed horribly then and he wins strictly because of plot conveniences like this one, its okay to lose battles and such but not for him apparently cause this was a blatant robbery
@@JariusKnows I mean that’s true but when you think about it, all kyoya cared about was beating Gingka, Gingka cared about being the best, and that inevitably was kyoyas downfall.
@@Poopybutt_2320 the only I can think about are like Ryuga in metal fusion
@@Comicedits39plot was bro's downfall nothing else
why leo
Ok the reason gingka will always beat or draw with kyoya is because he can just adapt more then kyoya can train kyoya will always become stronger but gingka will always adapt to his strength gingka is always getting stronger no matter what because Pegasus is the ultimate bey he is litearlly the face of a true good blader in his universe still kyoya is top 4 forever and honestly I think he should of bet ryuga
I agree with a majority of that honestly, this battle Gingka just seemed in checkmate though, he definitely the goat in terms of adapting and having pegasus on top of that makes him a force for sure
@@JariusKnows yes I understand what you meant but the reason he’ll never win is because Pegasus will always adapt and fight back harder and outshine in spirit as gingka is one of the only people to truely understand his bet and beyblade in general
@@JariusKnows kyoya deserved better tho
I’m tired of this kyoya robbery thing. He was always second to gingka. And in this fight in particular gingka hadn’t even mastered Pegasus. Kyoya is lucky that gingka hadn’t figured out Pegasus fully yet.
Thats a weak excuse, kyoya never seen or battled his new galaxy pegasus at the time and still had way more preparation and strategy than Gingka going into the fight and outplayed his every move during the fight, gingka got to watch kyoya battle and use his new special move and all, you can say long term yes Gingka was always going to be the best I would never disagree with that, but in this SPECIFIC fight no one can convince Kyoya wasn’t supposed to win easily at that
@JariusKnows bro you ain't wrong I believe ginga should have lost to kyoya in the world championship only because ginga hasn't mastered pegasus and forgot about beyblade spirit not to mentioned he didn't have a bey for a long period of time, in that time kyoya has been training like a madman going into the second season to beat ginga but If kyoya had beat ginga in world championships he wouldn't be satisfied until he beat ginga at his best he wasn't robbed though ginga got lucky by being able to tap into his full power for a moment in order to get a draw,
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
@@JariusKnows it’s not a weak excuse. And Kyoya has seen Pegasus. Not in person but enough so that he had strategies. I guarantee Kyoya was watching Gingka and his previous battles. And people seem to forget the one thing that was talked about in the first episode. The bladers spirit. Gingka has shown he’s the best at tapping into that power time and time again. But people acting like it came out of nowhere.
@@SeyeAwonuga Kenta and Kyoya had mastered their beys. They were at their limits of power at the time and they lost. So it’s not a weak argument. While Gingka wasn’t at his limit or mastered Pegasus. So that’s why he was able to draw.
Im glad Beyblade is becoming popular again.
Also Kyoya vs Ryuga was the original Gojo vs Sukuna.
Yea I watched a video on that, battle still is insane
Kai vs Brooklyn was the original Kyoya vs Ryuga.
On the contrary, Ginga was nerfed in metal masters to make him more competitive with Kyoya, since the writers probably thought it would be boring if Ginga was never challenged after Fusion. Which should have been the case if he progressed as you would expect normally.
nope kyoya was robbed
Kyoya black
Facts
Idk in my opinion gingka fought harder opponents
Not disputing that, they both fought harder opponents Im talking about in this battle specifically Kyoya clearly out battled him in terms of preparation/strategy and even power/strength. Gingka is just unable to lose official battles cause he didn’t have control for even 5% of the fight, should of loss multiple times prior and still got a draw
@@JariusKnows plot armor Is kinda crazy but thats why we love gingka🤣🤣
@@fariswaqar8620 Plot armor was crazy😂, I imagine him as if Ash from pokemon went to every new region and won all the final tournaments each and everytime, Gingka definitely still a goat though
In another note u think ryuga was a little robbed against rago
@@fariswaqar8620 I didn’t really like it at first until they made Kenta the new Legendary blader because then it felt like all the training he did following ryuga paid off, like a passing of the torch moment