I have the 1210GR and bought now this Denon too. The Denon looks nicer and plays good but for me no real difference to the technics. But from time to time the buttons on the Denon don‘t work, then I have to unplug the power to make it work again. The technics just works, always. The Denon looks good in my living room so no regrets. If I would buy it again, I‘m not so sure
Well, it's been decades since I've used a Technics. But I will say this Denon is so impressive in looks and sound. It instantly became my favorite. My only gripe is the headshell has these wings(for lack of a better word) that most Ortofon won't fit properly without the provided spacers. With the spacer(2) it works totally fine. I can't speak for comparing this with the Technics, but after playing with this for a time I wouldn't look any further. And I am/was strictly a Pro-Ject guy.
@@AudiolabStereoVideo hello wich spacers do you mean the transparent sheets of plastic?, for example is there any issue installing an Ortofon m2 black?
@@hernancarrizo158 Sorry for the delay. Yes, the transparent plastic pieces are the spacers. But the Ortofon Black actually fits. It's snug but fits. If you do have an issue you can use the spacers though. This table is so versatile.
Thank you for the unboxing and preliminary installation video. I still need help understanding how to adjust the stylus pressure ring counterweight. What is the recommended tracking force for the Denon DL103R MC cartridge, or how can I determine the best tracking force for it?
Thanks for the comment!! For that cartridge the manual says 2.5g ... plus or minus .3g - if the bass seems to much then it's probably a little too much weight. If you go to 6:46 in this video you get the tonearm so it's floating. That's your zero point and you turn only the part with the numbers on it and NOT the whole counterweight to "0". After that you turn both that and the counter to 2.5 in this situation, for your cartridge. I can make a video showing exactly what I mean. For now I'll put the manual below for your cartridge. I bet that cartridge sounds amazing!!! www.denon.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-denon_northamerica_shared/default/dwd77cb899/downloads/dl-103r-owners-manual-en.pdf
I am not familiar with the Micro Seiki BL 71. I looked a little into it online and it's a nice turntable no doubt. Given what I know about the Denon vs. older turntables if it were me I'd go for the Denon. I've had a lot of turntable pass through my hands both new and old. Some very very old. This Denon is so well built and so beautiful I would have to say the Denon. I would imagine the Micro Seiki might be hard to find parts if you ever needed them. These DP3000's are becoming very popular and therefore the parts more easy to come by.
Denon's product page on their website mentions it, as do the downloadable PDF documents (info sheet, owner's manual, and quick start guide). To switch to 78 rpm, "While pressing the SPEED button, press the START/STOP button." Of course you'll want to use a suitable stylus for 78 rpm records.
@@jc51373 China makes some junk, yes, but this isn't an example of that. This thing is outright amazing. I regretted spending the money until I got it. Once I unpacked it, I had zero regrets. Extremely well made...extremely.
@@Darrylizer1 rationalize much? Without continuing to conflate two very different points, what does that have to do with the fact the table is over priced for what it is? dummy
It is pretty big. All around. The whole table with dust cover is a little over 7 in. tall. I was joking that next a Rega P3 it looks like Big Foot (the monster truck next to a Honda Civic) In the best way possible. It's so classy looking and feeling. What would you like to know about the anit-skate?
@@AudiolabStereoVideo I was wondering why in the video, you did not show how to set the anti skate ? I may have missed it ! Also, I am wondering what is the height of the FOOT only ? That is, how much space is between the shelf where the unit is going to sit and the BOTTOM of the plinth ? Hope this makes sense.
@@ptg01 oh I see. That makes perfect sense. I mentioned it or at least showed it(close up) and the reason is we have a turntable series on the horizon that will cover every general aspect of all the different methods/models/approaches to anti-skates & everything else about turntables. On the DP3000NE it’s a knob you twist. If you go to 8:10 in the videos you’ll see it. I will see how tall the feet in the morning. Sound good?👍🏻
@@AudiolabStereoVideo In addition to understanding the height of the feet I would be curious what’s the minimum vertical space (height) between shelves is needed to have the lid stay open ? I have some severe space issues hence all these questions ! Thanks
@@ptg01 Hi! The feet are 1 and 3/4 inch(es) high. With the lid open, it is 19.3 inches high. So 20 inches or more space in a rack/shelf will give you about half an inch leeway. Hope that answers your questions. If you have any more please reach out. You can comment here preferably or call our store at 1-800-513-8555. Or email sales@audiolab.com ... we're a family-owned small business which gives us the flexibility to give people focused attention you probably won't get at a "big box" store. (that's not a sales pitch, I genuinely love it here and we really do spend the time with people 😁 - sincerely, your friendly neighborhood audio guy)
Obviously, the turntable is designed for use anywhere in the World (having a universal power supply, as is common on much electronic equipment), but it seems a waste of raw materials to provide USELESS power cables, which may simply be discarded? Not terribly green?
Can't avoid it. Most Hi-Fi components are assembled in China these days, even if they're designed elsewhere. Fortunately though, China is upping their game in manufacturing. Big difference from even 10 years ago. Kinda like where Japan was in the 70's.
You say typing away on your Chinese made Android or iPhone or Apple or PC computer. Onkyo, Marrantz, Denon, Cambridge, Klipsch, Polk, Advance Paris, KEF, Revel, B&W are all in total or in part made in China, and many more. All roads lead to China in some form or another for about everything we use today.
Would be great to have your view on this turntable vs the Technics.
I have the 1210GR and bought now this Denon too. The Denon looks nicer and plays good but for me no real difference to the technics. But from time to time the buttons on the Denon don‘t work, then I have to unplug the power to make it work again. The technics just works, always.
The Denon looks good in my living room so no regrets. If I would buy it again, I‘m not so sure
Well, it's been decades since I've used a Technics. But I will say this Denon is so impressive in looks and sound. It instantly became my favorite. My only gripe is the headshell has these wings(for lack of a better word) that most Ortofon won't fit properly without the provided spacers. With the spacer(2) it works totally fine. I can't speak for comparing this with the Technics, but after playing with this for a time I wouldn't look any further. And I am/was strictly a Pro-Ject guy.
Sorry to hear yours isn't working properly. Can you return it, or even the Denon warranty?
@@AudiolabStereoVideo hello wich spacers do you mean the transparent sheets of plastic?, for example is there any issue installing an Ortofon m2 black?
@@hernancarrizo158 Sorry for the delay. Yes, the transparent plastic pieces are the spacers. But the Ortofon Black actually fits. It's snug but fits. If you do have an issue you can use the spacers though. This table is so versatile.
Thank you for the unboxing and preliminary installation video. I still need help understanding how to adjust the stylus pressure ring counterweight. What is the recommended tracking force for the Denon DL103R MC cartridge, or how can I determine the best tracking force for it?
Thanks for the comment!! For that cartridge the manual says 2.5g ... plus or minus .3g - if the bass seems to much then it's probably a little too much weight. If you go to 6:46 in this video you get the tonearm so it's floating. That's your zero point and you turn only the part with the numbers on it and NOT the whole counterweight to "0". After that you turn both that and the counter to 2.5 in this situation, for your cartridge. I can make a video showing exactly what I mean. For now I'll put the manual below for your cartridge. I bet that cartridge sounds amazing!!!
www.denon.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-denon_northamerica_shared/default/dwd77cb899/downloads/dl-103r-owners-manual-en.pdf
@@AudiolabStereoVideo thanks very much for your prompt response
Une belle platine
Perfect for my pma 1600ne amp
Most definitely! I love that pairing idea. Haven’t heard it but I think that’s a great idea!!
PLEASE I NEED HELP. is the denon dp 3000ne better, or the micro seiki bl 71 from 1984? Which one do I buy? Thank you very much. Greetings
I am not familiar with the Micro Seiki BL 71. I looked a little into it online and it's a nice turntable no doubt. Given what I know about the Denon vs. older turntables if it were me I'd go for the Denon. I've had a lot of turntable pass through my hands both new and old. Some very very old. This Denon is so well built and so beautiful I would have to say the Denon. I would imagine the Micro Seiki might be hard to find parts if you ever needed them. These DP3000's are becoming very popular and therefore the parts more easy to come by.
There is 78??! In no other video they have no mention 78! 😂😂
Amazing.
Yep!! Pressing the 2 buttons at the same time engages the 78RPM mode. We read the manual! 😁Lol
Denon's product page on their website mentions it, as do the downloadable PDF documents (info sheet, owner's manual, and quick start guide). To switch to 78 rpm, "While pressing the SPEED button, press the START/STOP button."
Of course you'll want to use a suitable stylus for 78 rpm records.
Thanks for the video. In which country the the turntable is made?
seems to be made in China. That's what the box says.
Chinese made crap. over priced for what it is.
@@jc51373 China makes some junk, yes, but this isn't an example of that. This thing is outright amazing. I regretted spending the money until I got it. Once I unpacked it, I had zero regrets. Extremely well made...extremely.
@@jc51373 You say answering on your Chinese made iPhone or Android or Apple or PC computer. SMH.
@@Darrylizer1 rationalize much? Without continuing to conflate two very different points, what does that have to do with the fact the table is over priced for what it is? dummy
What cartridge do you like on this table?
Rega Ania Pro is one of my favorites.
@@AudiolabStereoVideo
Ortofon LVB Black
@@AudiolabStereoVideo The Denon 103R or the 301 Mk2 will do nicely.
@@AudiolabStereoVideo How would an AT VM540ML work until another cartridge is obtained?
@@johnmedvick8731 That would work great👍
Oh my.... how tall are the feet ?I Looks huge.... how about anti-skate ?
It is pretty big. All around. The whole table with dust cover is a little over 7 in. tall. I was joking that next a Rega P3 it looks like Big Foot (the monster truck next to a Honda Civic) In the best way possible. It's so classy looking and feeling. What would you like to know about the anit-skate?
@@AudiolabStereoVideo I was wondering why in the video, you did not show how to set the anti skate ? I may have missed it ! Also, I am wondering what is the height of the FOOT only ? That is, how much space is between the shelf where the unit is going to sit and the BOTTOM of the plinth ? Hope this makes sense.
@@ptg01 oh I see. That makes perfect sense. I mentioned it or at least showed it(close up) and the reason is we have a turntable series on the horizon that will cover every general aspect of all the different methods/models/approaches to anti-skates & everything else about turntables. On the DP3000NE it’s a knob you twist. If you go to 8:10 in the videos you’ll see it. I will see how tall the feet in the morning. Sound good?👍🏻
@@AudiolabStereoVideo In addition to understanding the height of the feet I would be curious what’s the minimum vertical space (height) between shelves is needed to have the lid stay open ? I have some severe space issues hence all these questions ! Thanks
@@ptg01 Hi! The feet are 1 and 3/4 inch(es) high. With the lid open, it is 19.3 inches high. So 20 inches or more space in a rack/shelf will give you about half an inch leeway. Hope that answers your questions. If you have any more please reach out. You can comment here preferably or call our store at 1-800-513-8555. Or email sales@audiolab.com ... we're a family-owned small business which gives us the flexibility to give people focused attention you probably won't get at a "big box" store. (that's not a sales pitch, I genuinely love it here and we really do spend the time with people 😁 - sincerely, your friendly neighborhood audio guy)
Where is this turntable manufactured?
Most likely China....
@@ptg01 Sorry it took so long to respond... yes it's made in China
Made in China. So no for me.😂
@@pinkypoohablewhere’s your phone made?
What! No 45 adapter?
The “clamp” doubles as a 45 adapter 😁
You forgot the anti-skate setting
Obviously, the turntable is designed for use anywhere in the World (having a universal power supply, as is common on much electronic equipment), but it seems a waste of raw materials to provide USELESS power cables, which may simply be discarded? Not terribly green?
👍
Premium? From china? Wow... never dude. Expect failures due to china quality. Tried and tested chinese products sucks
Absolutely. It can’t be premium or high end.
Can't avoid it. Most Hi-Fi components are assembled in China these days, even if they're designed elsewhere. Fortunately though, China is upping their game in manufacturing. Big difference from even 10 years ago. Kinda like where Japan was in the 70's.
You say typing away on your Chinese made Android or iPhone or Apple or PC computer. Onkyo, Marrantz, Denon, Cambridge, Klipsch, Polk, Advance Paris, KEF, Revel, B&W are all in total or in part made in China, and many more. All roads lead to China in some form or another for about everything we use today.