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The BIG cons of becoming an architect :
Whether you want to become an architect, or just recently became interested with the topic, it’s important to understand the bad side of architecture; if you don’t, there is a bigger chance that you’ll drop out, or regret your decision in the future. To foreshadow the conclusion of this video , chances are you WILL NOT be the next TED MOSBY if you DO decide to become an architect. My job here today is to paint the ugly picture - the dark architecture - so that you’re fully informed and avoid making regretful decisions in the future..
So here are the 10 biggest cons of becoming an architect, from the moment you start school school to your days as a professional.
I want you guys to keep in mind that this video was made to highlight only the negative aspects relating to architecture based on my experience and there is always the possibility that your journey will be different than mine. Also, with all this being said, i chose to become an architect and i don’t regret the decision for a second. Architecture has the potential to be one of the most rewarding careers out there, so make sure you subscribe and watch my upcoming video where i talk about all the pros related to the field. Take care everyone, i’ll talk to you soon!
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I pulled 16 all nighters my final semester. I did not loose any friends, and I had a great time! Design crits are easy. You just need to be scarier than the people critiquing you. Dress better than your professors, think on your feet, and never admit that you made a mistake. There are no mistakes, only design decisions. Leave your audience with only 2 options- love the project, or admit that they lack taste.
-I have not changed my initial comment as I don’t want to destroy the context of the conversation that has occurred, but I would like to say my initial comment is not perfect. A year after I initially posted this comment, the biggest criticism I have received is that you should admit mistakes, and I agree with the people who have said this. You need to be truthful, but if you work hard enough and seek out and apply criticism early and often there shouldn’t be much to say against a design at your final crit. I’m just trying to say a crit is much more upsetting if you haven’t prepared than if you had. Ultimately I wrote my comment with the intent that no one would be scared away from architecture, because it is a rich and rewarding career, and I believe that everyone is capable of enjoying it if they set their mind to it.
this is the best advice in the comments and highly underrated.
Even in this comment you sounded badass.
Christopher Sanders how?
Imane KANDILI I forgot to mention coffee. So much coffee!
@@bobfake3831 How many decades have you been an architect?
Sooooo....studing architecture is the same all over the globe, nice to know we're not alone
Interesting right? Maybe that's why we all tend to bond so nicely!
ItzelSMandujano haha indeed, only difference is that we have student loans with 0% interest in the netherlands
@@corivian that's beautiful
This is so true .. recently graduated architect in saudi arabia ^-^
Rawan A gratz!
Here's my advice after finishing 6 years of architecture school:
1.take criticism as it comes. If everyone was there to tell you how great you are, there is no room to improve and grow.
2. Manage your time well. Set a personal deadline a few days before the actual deadline. By aiming to finish before, you leave time for anything that may crop up at the end. This was my secret to never pulling an all nighter
3. About being shy in presentations - you do so many of them throughout the year that you lose the shyness pretty quickly.
4. Always speak with confidence. You went with this idea for a design project because you believed in its potential. Try think of any questions that might arise and try to fill in any gaps in your thinking.
If you love architecture, go for it.
Thank you for adding these points. This is gonna help others out tremendously!
I’m on my second year and mid term after two weeks, this is really really helpful thank you
How long do you have to go to school for? Like *6 YEARS?* To become an engineer it's around 4, right? I don't really feel like going to collage for 6+ years just to end up doing one thing over and over again when I get to the real word.
Rachel Ebejer hi I’m just about to go to college but I don’t know what courses to take to become a architect or interior architect. Any suggestions?
I am just a freshman, and i have always loved architecture, thank you so much. I really want to be one and it has been my dream
I'd like to share my experience in the last 15 years since starting this journey to become an architect. Yes, 15 years. Currently in the exam process. 2/6 passed. Throughout school I pulled exactly 0 all-nighters. I slept 8 hours each night, took every Sunday off, and maintained relationships with friends. In my working life: I rarely work overtime and I never work weekends. Your time is YOURS. Only you can determine how to best utilize it. Make a decision for yourself how you want to work, and choose programs and offices to work that allow you to work in this way. I have walked away from jobs that attempted to make demands on my time that I was uncomfortable with. While Mooch is correct that becoming an architect requires sacrifice I would push back that these unhealthy behaviors are avoidable with discipline and proper time management skills.
Great points! This is a very valuable comment because it shows that not everyone will have the same experience with this career and that it all boils down to your perception and how you handle certain situations. I'm glad to hear that you are almost halfway through your ARE's! That's really great; I wish you luck and hope you pass them all soon.
Thanks so much for this comment!! As a single mom I’m nervous about pursuing this career because I fear being over worked. So it’s refreshing to hear that with time management this is avoidable!!
@@jacquelinevega8495 just make money and enjoy your family. You will get distracted.
Can you please explain how you did that ? I wanna enjoy it and also work hard for it . And you gave me hope how there can be a breathing space . I really need your advice
i’m (hopefully if i get the grades) going into architecture next year september and this video kinda of scared me, but i got real life experience w people’s struggles and it still hasn’t put me off in fact i’m more determined. this comment actually made my day. it’s so true, you don’t need to overwork yourself for anything. i know i basically no nothing but from the experience i’ve had w architects at firms yeah it will be difficult at times but your make time for work and yourself it’s all balance
Well damn, architectural professors sure look like bullies.
I remember considering being an architect when I was younger until I realized that you had to deal with engineering. Somehow you can't just do some wild crazy design without considering of stability. Why can't life be more like minecraft?
It's good you noticed that so young haha! Yep... the real world doesnt quite work like minecraft unfortunately:( there is an architect though, Bjarke Ingels, who aims to make the world a little bit more fun using architecture. You should check him out!
@@Moochers I definitely will And yeah, I think I realized it when I visited Burj Khalifa and saw all the engineering that went around it. Do architects usually have engineering degrees or work with engineerings? Or is it the software they use that calculates that stuff for them?
As an architecture student.
Architects do work with engineers ie civil structure and in some cases eectrical engineers..
In real life you have to handle what they trowh at you, what the professor's won't sue you when you make a building that fails
Unless you study architecture in spain..... In Spain architects do all xd
I'm in the middle of my career and I'm afraid to the "it's not the career for me, I want to leave it" phase, I was told that happens to every one at some point.
It happened to me atleast a few times EVERY semester. There were times that I just felt miserable. And you're right, it does happen to almost everyone. It happened so bad to my friend on two occasions that he stopped going to class. That was design 3 and design 4. I remember going to his house and he was depressed cause his models were ruined and his autocad files became corrupt. His parents were really bummed seeing him that way. Me and a couple of friends talked to him showing him that he couldn't quit out because we knew he loved it. Last year he graduated and is working in the field. So don't give up!!!!! By the way I plan on talking about that as one of my topics in an upcoming video.
@@Moochers that's really great to hear, yeah I've seen a lot of my first semesters friends giving up, not because they were bad students but the stress they have going into, maybe it's a fact that's beyond the greater student you can be, maybe the the mind state it's a very important fact when you're thinking to get starting in this career.
you are 100% right. And just to elaborate a bit more: when you start school everyone has a different assumption. One of the biggest assumptions is that architecture is about talent - about being ALREADY good at something. And this is soooooo wrong. If you are talented that is a plus but not a requirement. School is there to learn. If you are not understanding , ask but dont quit. You shouldn't quit cause you feel like you are not good enough. Everyone has the potential to be a great architect. If you are not yet that's because it hasn't clicked yet. But the longer you stick with it, always trying to learn, to do better, the more chances of that "click" happening. So always try to remember that and always try to help others understand that it does get better and that even if they think they are not talented, it DOES NOT MATTER :)
@@Moochers hey .. Plz u have a talk on this topic....
@@Moochers so true! I think the majority needs some pep talk about confidence...
Don't forget the occasional mental breakdowns that involve crying about the sheer amount of work you have and the hours staring at the ceiling cause you've hit a wall and can evolve your design ;D
Yes; great point. I had those the day before major pin-ups
Me at the same time staring at the ceiling to imagine the dimension of the room *sigh* and setting point of ceilings lol
Or when softwares crash on you after hours of rendering.
I felt this so bad
I once had 4 in a day 😫😅
Ok, this is sort of true but don’t let it push you away. I got my 5 year B Arch in 1972, my license in 75, and had projects in 40 states and 10 countries before I retired recently. The pleasure of architecture is discovering needs and developing creative solutions, which is exactly what the studio system teaches. Math is a very small part of it, as is pure artistic skill. Most of architectural practice is communication and organization and time management. Clearly presenting your analysis and ideas is an essential skill at every level. School teaches a useful design process, internship teaches the delivery and building process. The cons are not that bad....
I thought architects never retired
What about socializing? I still want to go out and party with friends and meet women like I did in high school. Will this be the case going to architect school? I can’t imagine life without a balance of fun.
@@lucianocastillo694 either your all in or you'll be mediocre
I am sorry I'm just a student that hasn't even gotten into college yet but this is just not true. These people are just leaving me in the dust in terms of artistic skill it is so demotivating I'm contemplating quitting.
What I advise new students is, you should first go for diploma to see if you like it or not, and also please drop off as early as possible if it's not for you, some people regret it after 5 years .
This is good advice for anything in life. I would also say that before you go 100 percent into school, spend some time going to firms, talking to architects, and just surrounding your self with the profession in general. It's like before starting a sport, wouldn't you want to talk to other athletes and ask for their opinions? Just so you can educate your self a bit before spending time and money.
tell me about it, i'm graduating this year and i still regret choosing this major
@@q8asami988 hi, i am just so curious why you regret it? Im afraid i might too.
@@leilacorporal9967 hello there, first of all, if you need anyone to rant to, i'm here to listen. so feel free to do so.
skip to act III to get the short answer haha.
this my take a while tho so buckle up.
one thing you need to know is that i study in the one and only university that teaches architecture in my country, and its a very small department, every batch is about 30 students, and even with such a small number, the teachers dont like that and want the number to be smaller, they also arent being monitored so a lot of unfairness is due. the first year or so we were constantly ordered by some of them to transfer out, not just me but the whole batch. materials are scarce but the department doest really care, (you're ordered to find them anyway and are very expensive if you did find them) we hit traffic everyday because sleeping isnt allowed on campus and we dont have any dorms nearby. we take 4 other classes in other departments which is in another part of town (20 ~ 40 min away) then we come back to do design work. so for now, this is enough to add to your stress level
act II
this is from my personal experience, i'm a person with 2~3 hobbies, they help me relax and stay happy, but due to the amount of work you're constantly told to do, i rarely find time to do hobbies even when i'm managing my time very well, and that adds to my stress level even more. you stay with the same people for 5 years and it just happens that our batch is made up of 70% selfish people, it's very hard and stressful to do design work when you cant have fun with your studio-mates. as an arch student, your family time decreases, your non-architecture friends time decreases, and you usually find yourself working on weekends.
act III
this is the most important part if you think about dropping or not:
i'm not very passionate about architecture, it's like chores at this point, if you are passionate about it, then it will help take the pressure away, because everything you do is worth it. if you aren't so passionate about it, then i advice you to drop out. its perfectly normal.
in the major's defense, it's a very beautiful major, its hard work but it teaches you to be a learner, it teaches you to be strong and ok with criticisms. you'll be extremely active, and if a day passes without you doing anything in summer break for example, you feel something is wrong, because you're used to working. you will get so much work done even outside architecture, you will try to self-develop all the time in any aspect you want( and i find that to be a great feeling).
act IV
if any of you reading this is curious as to why i stayed in architecture, i thought i was too deep in to transfer, i wanted to graduate and to prove to those teachers that told us to drop that i can do it. and the main reason was how i've ranted too many times to my family for days, weeks and years, and it was too much of a waste to let their words of encouragement and patience go to waste. i want to graduate and proudly say " i am a survivor"
when i'm done, i will simply use this degree to its fullest potential in whatever direction my heart desires. i have the luxury to do that.
is that enough for an answer? hmmm.... i hope it is.
@@q8asami988 you're literally describing my situation right now! I'm graduating this year. stay strong friend !
Why wasn't this video in my recommendations 7 years ago 🙃
I know exactly what you mean :D
*last year lol
Have you done architecture?
same, I got my degree, honestly I enjoyed my time during college life, but when I took apprenticeship for several months, I got sick physically and couldn't handle the stress and makes me emotionally drained. I don't know what to do with my life now kowing the fact that I'm naturally shy introver that couldn't easily get along with a lot of people. It feels like i regretted it and couldn't pursue it anymore.
right?????
I totally agree with you however all-nighters are totally avoidable if your manage your time efficiently. I only had all nighters in my first and second studios.
In my experience the best qualities that you learn in architecture school is time management and overcoming the fear of public speaking and humiliation.
how did you manage with crits? i have really bad social anxiety and i feel like they’re going to eat me alive
hafsa you just have to reinterpret the critics. It’s very important to develop your skills and you will never really get rid of it. Even the biggest architects get criticized and that’s okay. You just have to understand that it’s not personal and that design is subjective and there’s no way people will agree on something.
I do one or two all nighters every week for studio work …
Maybe you can wake up go to class and stay there till you fall I sleep
But I at least got to keep my hobbies my social life and just hang out
I’m a first year architecture student and hell this is painfully accurate.
Im 16 years old and really interested in architecture can you give me some tips? Whats architect school like?
Likewise with Kam
Kam what unis you thinking about ?
These r the exact reasons y I love architecture
None of these discourage me to learn architecture
Mukesh Roopkumar you are the type we want in architecture...
That was exactly what I thought after seeing this video.. Literally I realized I hv to be in this field when I felt I don't care about the cons!!
Same, what i dislike is to study random non important arh history, and we have a lot of that
Mukesh Roopkumar Me too I like challenge, I don’t back down because challenges only make me stronger
@@phnty Lol I love art history and I want to become some kind of architect, but maybe because Im at an arts high school and both my parents are artists :P
Not sure why I'm watching this.
I didn't study to become an Architect and never plan on becoming one either.
😂
This video is pretty good at summarizing the negatives but it is import to know that what he talks about in the video is the worst case scenario for each semester. You have good professors and bad ones. Sometimes you have to restart projects and sometimes you don't. I wouldn't let this video scare anyone into not pursuing this amazing subject because in my 4+ years at school I can say if you are passionate about design you will love what you do no matter how much bullshit some professor may put you through
so basically, without a passion you will drop out...
That’s harsh
I don't know if I want to be an architect anymore. Playing Minecraft really inspired me to be an architect because I really loved building and it was fun but as I got older I started realizing more and more on how bad being an architect is if you want to have a good life.
You make terrible money for a job that takes years not to mention you have to spend a bunch of money that you don't even have and I heard that 60% of architectures aren't even happy. Also I don't think I would want a career where I am literally crying and panicking over the amount of work I have.
@@marwanthekirby2596 @Formula 1 man I'm in France and it's the same shit here. I am in the first year of architecture and I am completely dead from my last performance of the semester which took place yesterday. I have the same speech you are having now, going round in my head. I too found that the balance between effort / compensation in architecture is completely dead; no job, lots of work for bad pay, feeling long term dissatisfaction with your project it eats up your free time, you are still chased by the deadline, the project is haunting your whole mind, you skip it bedtime and it has long bad consequences for your health. the jobs are different and repetitive, you only work for one aspect of the project and its taking year and year to get that project finally done. I feel so free when my project is finally done and we change the subject. Staying on the same project for 3 years would kill me and more if it's just a small aspect. There are no set hours, I saw myself working from home and not sleeping for 3 days or Lil bit only, for a project and taking time out of my free time, my relationship or even time with children is not acceptable. many years of hard hard study for.... What? . Becoming a real architect is very long long long, not just 6 years. In the end, you still have to fight for a living and a job and a salary. It’s as if Ur’s diploma meant nothing. I am leaving architecture ...
@@ninougami4770 what are you planning on taking instead? 😭 i feel the same way here, but im not entirely sure about the direction id take if i left it.
Now im sad. :'(
I'll have to watch the Pros next
I hope you're not sad anymore :]
I find those that treat architecture as an being an artist are the ones who struggle in the workforce. Those that treat it as being a designer and problem solver flourish.
Design and problem solving is a art form is it not ?
@@TheBlackBuddhist no
@@TheBlackBuddhist yes (ignore the other guy)
I've been in the industry for 16+ years. The industry is great, fun and creative, but it's also very fragile. It's important to know that it heavily relies on bank loans, and any economic downturn can disrupt a firm for many, many years. Expect lay-offs if your skill set is not specialized. Remember this is a tech industry as well, gotta keep up with latest software and programs. Also corporate survivalism is a problem. Less educated senior employees will do anything to keep their position, so moving up the corporate ladder can be difficult.
Hey! Thank you for providing your view - it will help a lot of people who are deciding on the career. You make many great points
Apherious Black hi I’m just about to go to college but I don’t know what courses to take to become a architect or interior architect. Any suggestions?
It’s important to start your studio classes asap because they are year long classes. So if you don’t start in the fall, you will have to wait til next fall to begin. As far as other classes, I would suggest learning Autodesk programs such as Revit and 3ds max if offered. Also any art class will be beneficial, sculpture, drawing, etc.
Cool video, I wish there was stuff like this when I was coming out of HS... As an SE I have worked with many, many architects over the years and have seen the good and the bad. Here are my own two cents...
1. You have to be ready to lead if you want to succeed. If you can't command a D&D meeting you'll never move up the ladder. PRACTICE this in school to give yourself a huge head start. Be a leader in as many group projects as you can, even if it terrifies you. You can't be afraid to be wrong and hiding in the background won't gain you anything.
2. In school your goal is to develop designs you'll love. When you become a professional your job is to come up with designs your clients will love, BIG difference. I suggest treating your professors as your client. Pay attention to their behavior and challenge yourself to come up with designs you know they'll appreciate. Eventually in the professional world you'll develop a reputation and style of your own, so clients will seek you out for your style giving you more creative freedom, but it WILL take time to get there.
3. You can love your designs but don't be in love with them. Meaning you have to be able to change and adapt to new input and priorities. You can't take it personal, there's nothings worse then an Arch that won't alter a design even though every other member of the design team thinks they should...
4. Learn to talk. Sure email has changed the way most communication is done, but with out a doubt, the higher you get up the ladder the more time you spend on the phone and in meetings. Being able to communicate abstract ideas verbally without the use of sketches and diagrams is critical to not only increasing your workflow, but also building relationships with your clients and design team. At the end of the day, net working is everything.
5. There are plenty of smart people out there that can do the job. The ones who get the jobs and succeed are the ones who have it all, brains and personality. If you're a shy person then work on changing it. It can be scary at first but the more you put yourself out there the more confidence you'll gain in yourself. Eventually you'll feel better, be less stressed, and be better at your job.
6. Networking is critical to success. If you neglect it you're sabotaging your own career. Get out there with other members of the profession as much as you can. You'll not only build your personal library of contacts, but you'll build your overall knowledge of the construction industry as a whole.
I’m a final year architecture student and I’m naturally shy & very introverted but I learned to present comfortably infront of my lecturers... it’s not true that you can’t do architecture if you’re shy... I think more shy people should do architecture because it can help push them out of their comfort zone... you’ll realize it’s not that scary. And I have never pulled a single all nighter... yes you do spend long hours working but it’s all about time management. If you can manage your time effectively you won’t lose any sleep and you’ll be fresh for your presentation the next day.
Now you gotta tell us how it goes in the real world 😃
Thanks you so much! This is what i wanted to hear 😭. I want to study architecture but I’m extremely shy so i keep hesitating.
Your replies to people's comments are a pleasant surprise: encouraging, yet practical and realistic. That's such a helpful delivery! 😊
I try. There is a lot that goes unsaid in my videos so being able to offer just a little bit more of insight via a comment is such a great opportunity. Really cool that you offered a compliment :]
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that's what I like. Class critique, busy and challenging designing life, exceeding my limit, trying out different project sung different ideas and trying out different styles, getting out of my comfort zone, and manage to survive through school years when my classmates fail to survive
I’m 15, doesn’t have a dream job ever since I was younger and is recently into architecture. Is it really that hard? I don’t mind working my ass off or getting insults and harsh criticisms but is it really worth the work? I don’t fear the journey but I fear the result not being worth it enough for all those works.
Me in the same exact position🌟
16 year old here, im in the EXACT same position as you right now
Kam SAME
The thing is im more into the design and art of it, rather than the engineering and techical math of it. How about starting a company that only focuses on the design aspect and group collaboration to draft designs and draw all day, then send it to an engineering firm to review it then make changes to make the building structurally possible, then make money that way. But then i would need a business major. And a architecture minor. And its very hard to start a business nowadays. Idk im just rambling at this point but yeah
Kam haha honestly I’m in the same road. I feel like I would enjoy the school aspect of it even though it’s considered a “con”. If only we could have that architecture business 🤩🤩... unless we make it
Im in my 4rth year of architecture school. All so very very true. It takes a special person who is willing to work until you drop, but also who enjoys the majority of the work you do.
this is so true. I am an arch student and can relate to all this. We work so hard on projects but at the end we get a bad grade for no reason, it's just the opinion of the professor. And you cannot plan things in advance, as you don't really know how much each project is gonna take and you also have other participants in the project so you can't know how much time you need. If you study medicine the hard work you put in pays off in the exam. This is why I really regret studying arch. I really prefer science-based studies. And if you study medicine you get to practice what you learn, in arch you need to be overly creative in uni to work then as an engineer. If you're smart enough you quickly realize what a bad decision arch is.
True. Being an architecture student can be really hard. You can be soo good at the first-half, then the next one will be shit according to the examiner. I sometimes spending my time doing the all night shifter, because they said my design wasn't good enough. Guess what? Till' the end my design still wasn't good enough. And at the end of semester, they will give you an average score for "trying hard". Lol. But it was fun, so i won't complain more.
Gabriel Joshua yep I know. The hard work does not pay off very often
Same!!! My exam project got a really bad grade even though I was top of my class and I was like da hell
Hola hola hi I’m just about to go to college but I don’t know what courses to take to become a architect or interior architect. Any suggestions?
@@Rachel-xx1bl well that's why you're going to college, right? To take courses to become an architect. Do you mean additional courses before college? I don't think this is necessary, you'll get 'enough' of arch while you're there, believe me
Yup social life is almost non existent but I always make sure to have sleep. I don’t pull all nighters that’s one rule I always aim to keep, you just have to be efficient with your time
I agree with you 100%. I did the same, i barely went out , but I slept 8 hours every night :]
I just started studying architecture and my dad whos an architect himself said I shouldnt study it. lol still did and I allready pulled 2 all nighters in 3 weeks
Lol, it's very common for architects to tell you not become architects. I think it's great that your dad is an architect though because you'll have a head start on the career in many ways.
Mooch yes your right I‘ll try to use it to my advantage :)
I used to draw blueprints all the time back in the fourth grade because I love drawing and I know a little bit of math. I can do bits and bits of it. I’m currently a junior in high school. This is something I want to do after high school when I go to college. This sounds so interesting and fun to do. I love houses and building things
Architects definitely need thick skin. It’s a passion and you have to love it. There is room for many different personalities and skillsets in the profession, but it’s not for everyone. School definitely weeds people out because it is intense but it teaches creative problem solving which is invaluable. Being an architect a lifelong joy if it’s a good fit for you.
Also, you forgot the costs for all the books and monographs that you buy.
SO. MUCH. MONEY!
Yea, you tend to develop that thick skin in school from all the pin-ups and crits you go through. Also, yes, it's super expensive.
This is my 2nd semester and every word he said is the truth! Ugly right!
lol, yup..... Hang in there though. You got this!!!
@@Moochers lol this video really got me considering I started to list out Other majors see what I can do as idk what I want to do
i’m a teen rn and i live in this really shitty apartment. i told myself i will become an architect, become rich, and make my own house. my biggest fear is getting accepted into a college and to realize that i hate everything about architecture. what will i do if this doesn’t work out is the biggest question for me. i have some questions just to understand more about architecture. question one is, after you finish college what do you do now? how does an architect earn money. do they just apply for jobs and if so where? do they start their own business and make money from there? question two is what makes a good architect and what makes a bad one? finally, the most important question, how do you become a successful architect?
Hey! When you finish getting your degree, you apply for jobs. Actually, you should have been applying well before graduation so you have professional experience by the time you graduate. You get paid a salary working at firms.
Eventually, with lots of experience, and if you have the will to open a firm, you can choose to do so. You'll make money by having clients who need work done. You do the work and they pay you for it.
A "good" architect is a subjective term. It depends what you mean by good and successful. If by those words you mean rich with money? well, it's someone who's figured out how to market their work and get a lot of clients while maintaining a large profit margin.
If you mean good/successful in terms of their work. Well, that's a tough one. Good architecture is subjective as well. People throw that word around like their is only a few correct ways to design. There definitely are fundamentals and principals in every single architectural movement and if you breakaway from them, you're technically creating bad architecture. But for example, look at post-modern architecture. Just google it. A lot of people hate that style. There are many people in the world that still enjoy it! The same goes for Zaha, BIG, Gehry (famous architects). You'll always find haters and supporters.
So I don't think there is a such thing as a one single "bad" or "good" architecture that can be pointed out as an example. Personally, I think bad architecture is that which has failed it's purpose. That which has little thought behind it - the cookie cutter "style". That's all bad. If it works and has thought behind it, I consider it good. That's my baseline judgement approach.
You become successful by first defining success then attempting to achieve it. Your definition of success will evolve as time goes by. But first define it, then look for examples of those who've done it; don't imitate, but draw inspiration from them.
Good luck!
Mooch thank you so much 😖 you’ve definitely given me motivation to work harder and achieve my goals! sub earned 👍
Glad I could help you out!
Man, this is so accurate. I'm surprised at how few of the other students at my school actually talk about this. Workload, crits etc. these things can be absolutely brutal. Especially in the first semesters.
Great video, subscribed!
Thanks so much!
dude thank you for this video. in a few months i’ll be getting my bachelor’s degree in architecture, but almost the whole time i’ve been in uni i have questioned whether this field is for me or not. i’m getting average and good grades, surviving pin ups and such, but i feel like... i lack passion, maybe?? my class is also full of super skilled and motivated people, and i can’t help but feel like an outcast. if i decide to quit, i fear that i might do it for the wrong reasons. then again, i am pretty damn miserable quite often even though i am doing ok when it comes to school work.
how do i know if this is worth it? i know this is stupid but i also fear what other people might think. i don’t want to be the loser who quits. then again, i don’t want to go down a path that makes me unhappy.
such a ramble. gotta believe everything will work out.
I love this infographic hand-drawn style. And it's was quite interesting to know how much head-aches has and average architect-student.
Thanks Mercenary! Yes, it's a struggle ...
all of these cons sound good and just make sense and actually prepares you for life and not just a technical skill
I wish I had seen this video before 2007. I've graduated in 2011 and so far I still wonder if it was the right decision because I'm not actually fulfilled by this career. I used to love being creative and drawing before going to architecture school and during uni I've lost it. Never got it back. If you don't like being constantly judged, pressured, anxious and feeling like you're not good enough this might not be the best career option for you. Even looking for a new job is a torture as you have to make your CV look like a special carnival parade if you don't wanna be discarded on the first 5 seconds. Choose wisely, people. If you are like me, introverted, analytical and get easily bored of spending long hours in front of a computer doing the same job over and over again until someone else is happy, just run!!
Then, what options do we have after so much sacrifice at uni? ☹️
my father was right!
when I was in 5th grade the first time I learned about architecture and what it was, my teacher was telling the class about her past career dreams. She said in high school she wanted to be an architect and chose to teach 5th graders instead 🙄 anyways, I really looked up to her at the time and thought about it for years after that and looked into it more in about 9th grade and when I told my father I was interested in architecture and design. He told me I was too stupid and not motivated enough to be an architect. Of course, he was right, I gave up on my only dream I've ever had that day and now I've dropped out of highschool and probably will end up killing myself. Thanks dad 😄
First of all, if you really feel that way, you need to get help. There is so much opportunity out there for you, but you should get some help to allow you to clear up your thinking and focus on the positives in your life.
That being said, dropping out of highschool is not the end of the world. I've met people in this field that are very talented and they come from other backgrounds that have nothing to do with architecture and they don't have education in architecture either.
So first, get help. After you do that, go apply at jobs at firms. An internship would be great. Plenty out there. Get paid to learn. Then you'll know what your next move is.
I will be going to university in september. I have always wanted to be an architect from a very young age. People discouraged me telling me i won't succed and that it's very hard. Including my mom who wants me to study medcine or psychology. I later decided to change my course but now i am sure i want to be an architect, thats life. Since i've always been a creative person and i'm good with numbers. always loved buildings. Thanks for the heads up wish me goodluck in my uni
Really exciting to hear you're gonna start your career in architecture. It's gonna be tough but the hard work will pay off. Remember to stick around and let me know if you have questions along the way! Good luck!!!
Thanks 😊
Hey, I'm starting my architecture studies this October. How are you doing so far? Did you start yours just now?
@@Moochers hi there Mooch! Maybi ask if you do you really nwed to be good at numbers in order to survive architecture? The thing is, im not really that good and i am actually entering architecture next school year. I'm afraid to regret it and the money and time Im going to waste.
@@leilacorporal9967it depends on the course, if it is architectural design degree, there will be almost no number crunching and pure design and theory, if it is simply architecture degree, my understanding is that there will be little bit if calculation but nothing close to what engineers do.
I’m in my second year of Architecture 2nd sem. and I almost shifted to a different course cuz I thought I wont be able to survive the 1st sem. but ey I’m still here buying those expensive papers & pens burning holes in my tiny wallet 😅 for my fellow struggling Architecture students, if you ever feel stressed from the pressure, just drop what you’re doing and meditate for a moment to relax then continue with whatever you’re doing 😊
I love how you just mentioned ted mozby the architect 😭♥️
He's awesome!
Yeah he was Legen wait for it dary he was legendary
As an architect student and part time gamer. You don't need friends to de-stress you. Just play one match in a game then proceed to do some CAD drawings or sketches.
Pretty productive I say
Just graduated with my bachelors on Sunday, and while to many going on to be architects (found my full time niche in the tech space of the AEC), it is just the mid point. It’s insane to look back on the wild ride that the past 4 years have been, and this video brought that home.
I just passed with my teachers to present my project, we have one more session before the final and the prof told me my project was basically complete and he loved how I had managed to work on this project ane congratulatred me on all my hard work, sure there is still more things I can and will change but thats life.
This triggers my PTSD
haha! Sorry to hear that, hope it's not too bad..
I’m with you buddy.
OR you can become a licensed professional structural engineer and then get your CPBD license through reciprocity and skip all the bull crap of architecture school. I've made a VERY VERY good living doing it this way. For those of you that dont know, CPBD means certified professional building designer which allows you to develop architectural plans as long as they are under 3 stories I believe. Good luck to any one that want to design buildings and have fun with it! Also, there's many roads to get to were you want to be. I even know designers that do architectural designs with out an actual license but they are single story homes but they love it and their designs are quite beautiful.
Thank you so much!
I appreciate the advice!
Currently I am a STEM Student who wants to be an architect.
After I watched this video I learned what to expect from architecture.
Because all this time only I've learned the pros of an architect...
your words are accurate, very similar to my Aunt who also studied architecturing but I didn't got discouraged to continue I'll prepare myself, Thanks for the information.
5 years in and lowkey regretting it. 2 years to goooo
Sorry to hear that... I really do hope you find a path that suits you better!
@@Moochers lmao i wasted money on this, might as well finish so i could get a degree
This is spot on and well done. I have been doing Architecture for over 18 years since leaving University and working in various level practices. The rewards do come for the average practising Architect as you get older, it's definately a stamina course.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. Really cool for you to share a piece of your experience!
I've started architecture this year after seeing your videos, and I must say, they are the most real things I've seen in my life, everything that has been mentioned has happened in real life during these two semesters
Thanks for the video. This is my first video I’ve seen of yours and thanks for the rundown on what will happen while I’m in college. I’m more prepared now because now I know what to expect. Thank you
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I want to be an architect because I'm lazy. I always slacks off and procrastinate until I messed it all up. Knowing the hard work that you must do to be an architect made me interested in it. I hope by studying architecture in uni will make a good change in my life.
Fyi, I suck in math and drawing too, it's gonna be a hellish journey
Wish you the best of luck!💙
If it makes you feel better, I was horrible at drawing and math too (in high school). I'm still not too good at math. I was also a C student in high school. Arc. school forced to toughen up, or fail out. I toughened up, learned knew skills, became good at a lot of things, and I'm a better person over all. You have to find joy out of it though...
@@Moochers Thanks for the reply, your video and the story you share here really cheered me up. For now, I try to find joy out of it by acting proactive with all the hardworks I have to do. But then again, I really hope to find the true joy in it soon
I have never heard anyone say these things as a reason to be an architect. I admire your honesty. I have been a licensed architect for over 30 years, so I know a few things about it and about life in general. First, you should go into architecture, or any field, because you are interested in it. If you don't like doing it, the work and stress and criticism will make you depressed and you will procrastinate more and you will fail. If you want to change your character and your life, do it by studying something you love so much that you will want to change your bad habits. Second, architecture has math and drawing. If you want to be an architect, you will have to learn it, and with dedication and hard work you will. You are not expected to know how to draw before starting school, and you should already know basic math. School will teach you the rest. Third, and most important, is attitude. If you go to school with a good attitude of wanting to learn (architecture, cooking, accounting, or anything else in life) and you are truly interested in it, you will overcome anything and you will eventually be good at it. Nothing is handed to you in life. You should expect to work hard for it, plan ahead to take all the necessary steps, and you will succeed in anything. I wish you the best at whatever you decide.
Haha I just graduated with my Landscape Architecture degree and this is soooo accurate! Working at a firm has been significantly less stressful.
You really hit the nail on the head with this video! While the schooling is tough, I think the benefits of it far outweigh the cons as far as personal growth goes. I can't say the same for the field. It's borderline criminal what the difference is between academia and the professional world. It's why I often tell people to study architecture but be willing to practice something else. There are a ton of fields, design and otherwise, that an architectural background can help you in!
I’ve pulled about 50 or 60 all nighters in my 4 years of architecture... I have one more year left and I get my masters. It has been the most chaotic/exciting/exhausting/best experience ever. It’s not for everyone by any means but it’s amazing. Architecture, Law, Surgeon, very successful business owners all have one thing in common. No sleep but a ton of world changing impact.
I have completed Architecture just a month ago and been on a full time job since.
I can confirm everything he say is 100% correct, even if i live in india.
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Fuck! Im an interior designer in an Architect school.
Why do i feel like Architecture in general is not evolving at all..teachers moulding you to their style instead of you becoming you!
Yup. 100% - I never understood this either.
I studied graphic design and I really enjoyed the critiques. At times feedback could be brutal, but it helped us all improve. It sounds like you had great professors that challenged the students.
Hey, please make a video on how to avoid all nighters in architecture school. I love your videos. They are so informative for people who are interested in pursuing a career in architecture. I love your videos that inform future architect students. They are the best.
As scary as this sounds, don’t worry it’s not always this bad. If you manage your time correctly all nighters are avoidable. My tutors are very helpful and in times where you are stuck or they tell you your design sucks they WILL help you and won’t leave you to figure out on your own. As a student I love my course and I’m excited everyday. It is tough so if your scared of hard work this course isn’t for you.❤️
You make a lot of great points. Time management is SOO important!
😆lol, your sarcasm is excellent. So true. I actually enjoyed studio time, it was the most interesting part of architecture for me, but when you actually go to work at a firm and sit in front of that monitor being a drone, that right there should be a question you should ask yourself, especially if you are a creative person. I hate that part of architecture and that architects have to spent tremendous amounts of time on their degrees. It's not for everyone, think really hard before you decide to go on this road.
I actually changed my trajectory after getting my degree and would not be where I am without architecture.
haha! you noticed :D! You and I have a lot in common, based on your comment. Glad you see the positive side of the bad experience.
What cons have you experience in your architectural career (School or Work)?
DEFINITELY THE ALL-NIGHTERS 😧😧
😶 how often?!
tbh I only had to do it like 4 or 5 times in my past 2 years. but I hated myself back then ! nightmare !
Good content btw, You'll probably look back at the youtube success video one day and be like uugh I was too damn happy with the few views I got hihi
You'll get there 💪 Quality and consistency are all that matters on yt and you already have the quality.
that was a looong comment 😅, and I usually never comment. But a little push doesn't hurt 😁
GOOD LUCK MOOSH 💪
4 or 5 times you're one of the lucky few who didnt have that many!
Hey it was a long comment but that was really nice and I really appreciate it. Thanks alot for taking the time to type up this really nice comment! Means alot!!!!! (Especially since you never leave comments :) ... thanks again, talk to you soon :)
You're welcome! and good luck again 😊
you just have described my life as an integral design student, but all of this at the end is woth it if you love your career.
Nicely explained!
Thank you!
It's been 10 months and a 200k sub channel has 1 comment and a heart from the person who created the vid what???
Today's archeologists seem hellbent on making discoveries at any cost leaving nothing for future generations.
In order to design you have to be familiar with the technologies and materials available in the market which sadly the university did not focus on too much.
This video is fair and accurate. My college decided to lock all studios at midnight to encourage students to better time manage. Students often hid from the guards and slept in studio when presentations were due. I feel like I did more 'unlearning' about architecture at a post-grad level, learning to ask the right questions instead and often philosophical ones. Architecture has truly transformed the way I see the world. It's a love hate relationship and if you're an architect or deciding to study architecture, I want you to know that it's all going to be okay.
Hey I’m a first semester architecture major. I’m stressed because I’m transferring to a different state, so I appreciate hearing what programs will be like in other universities.
Read a book "Paths Uncharted".
Already added to my wish list. Thanks for the suggestion!
I’m a license Architect too I enjoy it but when I discovered Concept Art last 2013. I made a carrier shift and nuke the bridge. Never going back. Concept art is the coolest job ever.
Thanks for sharing! It's pretty cool to hear that you took a different route in architecture. It would be cool if you gave us more information so that other could learn about your experience!
Mooch what kind of information you like to know about concept art? I also heard an interview by Finnian Macmanus on youtube that some architecture firm are now hiring concept artist to design their buildings because concept artist have industrial design background. Time is changing.
Ammar Habib watch this first. It will give you understanding. th-cam.com/video/YkVLbgTpVO4/w-d-xo.html
Your content is fabulous! Its been 5 weeks I started architecture school and I already relate to this.
Thank you :D! How do you like it so far?
Having sleepless nights already. >~< But it's still interesting although I wish professors were a bit less harsh.
That seems about right... I love architecture and studied it for a year, but I couldn't deal with the subjectivity of it all. The professor who seems like an all-knowing God until you go for your second feedback session and you realize he's winging it too.
😂 so true about the professor part (in some cases)
This has gave me some great insight on becoming an architect, thank you.
Cool! Glad it helped
"You won't be able to attend parties or concert like you used to" Parties are like a rare occasion and i don't have the money to spend on concerts soooo...
this is pretty cool as my father is an architect. its cool to see what he has to go through to get his job.
That's great!
Architecture school can be sooo rough due to the high amount of stress tbh 😭 doing my master of architecture now just after completing my undergrade degree in architecture, and I think I've lost some years off my life cause of the stress. I love being creative and achieving successful designs, but it doesn't pay to be a perfectionist in this field, as things change and there are time limits to get projects done. I do look forward to doing my thesis however, which will be on something I'm passionate about, instead of a topic pre-chosen for me by my professors. I also look forward to working in the field, something that I was able to experience though co-op in my undergrade, and that I found to be way less stressfull then school.
Funny how almost everything you said actually is the truth that no one really warns you about before starting..I made it through 2 years and I must say, one of the things that surprised me the most was how expensive this study is. It's not only the amount spend on your tools and models but also school trips and books. It may sound like a horrible experience but I believe that studying architecture, unlike other fields, actually makes you grow a lot as a person, because you have to learn how to take criticism, because you have to get better at managing yourself, because you have to stand for your ideas, because you have to learn how to deal with so many different people etc. In the end, your hard work is repaid x 1000. You just have to grow some thick skin and endure and never stop asking questions, never stop being curious.
Alex if you don’t mind me asking, what made you decide to quit after two years? i’m currently wondering if i should go down a different path after getting my bachelor’s in architecture
Curious about what specifically??
we have a totally different experience with architecture school. we don't have "pin-ups", which is sad because I think it is an excellent way to getting used to talking about your design in front of a lot of people. In the first year of architecture school, we focused more on graphic drawings and fine arts. just a bit of design principles and architectural laws. I'm in my 5th year now and i still know so little. I'm planning to work abroad and watching this video makes me think that i can't hahaha im from the Philippines btw
Aww no way! pinups are the best! I have an idea though! Why don't YOU be the one to implement it in your school? Talk to your professors and the dean, see if you can make it happen. If they don't want to, they you can start YOUR own club!!! Invite friends first, then start to tell others. That would be so cool. Trust me, you'll be able to work anywhere if you just focus on learning. Don't worry about what you know or don't know know, focus on what you want to know, and who you want to be!
It’s been 2 years and the guy is still liking comments … what a legend
And commenting :D
I graduated in 2003 ...your description is exactly what I experienced during my college years..🤣 I never felt that my projects were completed the way I wanted, bad teachers and students, fatal error messages in programs, plotter malfunctions, 🤣sleepless nights, no social life (8am-8pm monday-friday schedule), etc.
I think the positive to be an architect is the prestigious that gives and being part of the most intelligent people in the world, our career taught us to be organized, scientists, resilients, creatives, and find ways to succeed in architecture or any other path we may take. 😁
Architecture is my biggest regret and biggest love at the same time.
I am studying architecture and have lost all motivation. We’re asked to design 100,000 sqft building when We can’t even design a proper 2000 sqft building. All of this work for little pay has made me lose motivation in the field. I must say I still love architect however.
When i looked at my last years design, i realize how shitty they are
I found architecture school just as you described. I hated crits and was very bad at them. I have been an architect now about 30 years and think I know what I am doing at last. I have really enjoyed it for at least the last five years and maybe more. I would say it has worked out really well for me.
I'm glad to hear that Chris!
I'm a fourth year in a five year architecture program. I agree with all of this. The most important thing about going into architecture is that you are passionate about it. If not, it will truly be a struggle and you'll feel like an outsider. Wish I had known that going in.
Very accurate lol, except I had a great friend group in college and went to lots of concerts and parties
As did I. Just because you study architecture doesn't mean you'll have no life - as a matter of fact I tell people to focus on their time management so that they can continue to develop their life outside of school. The problem is that the majority of students in architecture spend less time doing extra curricular activities. This is the fault of bad time management though.
I´m studying architecture in Germany. Seems like a pretty accurate description to me! :D
Really! That's good to know. Thanks for your comment!
Which college.?
There is no conflict between architectural studies and studio work and having a college social life- constant all- nighters are not required. The skill to learn, which carries over into practice, is to plan your work and not just work endlessly. If you have 4 weeks to complete something, your plan might be research and two concepts in week 1, choose and develop 1 concept in week 2, develop all aspects of that concept in week 3, then do final presentation materials in week 4. That is exactly what successful architects do, with social and weekend time along the way. What doesn’t work is to throw everything out and start over in some new direction midway in week 3.
Omg
I didn’t become an architect bc someone told me it requires a lot of traveling. Not sure if this was right or not. This was before you can google everything
awww man.... unfortunately, that can be a myth. It depends what firm you're in. Some firms require lots of travel, some don't. But you can always make it a point before you take the job.
Im in this kind of situation where i have to choose between these courses
Being an architect student or engineering student. But for now,
I am a grade 12 student and I need to make a decision as soon as possible. I love these two courses and i know i'll never regret it, if i choose one.💜
Hey! What I would do is see if there are any classes that overlap between the engineering you want to study and architecture - classes that you need to take for both degrees. Take those classes first. That will buy you some time before you have to actually make the decision. Also, I would start to look into videos of people describing their life as architects and as engineers and see which one you will prefer to be. I can't speak wfor engineers (I have worked with many consultants before but that's not enough information for me to be able to summarize what their lives are like) I suggest you go on reddit and look for a day in the life of an engineer. See if you enjoy that. Architecture has a little bit of everything. You can go into making plans; actually drawing the plans and creating sets. You can go into design. You can go into constructing management... just so many things. So do some research, see which one of them you would enjoy doing more. Good luck on your journey!
Thank you for ur advice. I say to my self that in the last week of sept. I'd surely decided of what i've chosen to.
Good luck to my journey (pray)
And God bless u and ur youtube channel. Btw new subscriber here.
Thank you so much! Really appreciate your comments and the sub!! Talk to you soon :D
my advice to new first years (as a second year lol) is its not as scary as you think it's gonna be. yes, its a lot of work and rough when your hard work gets roasted by your profs/ peers/ professionals, but i am learning that they are all trying to help you succeed. all nighters can be avoided with good time management (i have yet to pull one knock on wood). the thing about architecture is TIME MANAGEMENT. you will be able to have a social life if you manage your time well. again im only a second year so maybe it gets worse as you progress, but for me i am in love with this field and love the hours spent on projects and cant wait for the future :)
Thank you for your input! I'm sure your comment will help out others out there! I agree, time management is probably the single most important thing in our career. I'm actually working on a video on this very topic!
Don't forget it's not only designing.. it's a lot of mathematics, physics and engineering that you have to do. If you like that it's a major benefit.
From a Dutch architect student
4:26 that sounds amazing.
I'll graduate in 2 months and still laugh everytime my friends or my juniors happily said "I want to get an architecture degree!" or "I got accepted in architecture school!" Nah, let's see how you'll survive kids
Haha! I like how you don't warn them. You're just there, sipping on your coffee, enjoying the train wreck that's about to happen.
Regret it lol
Here in our country, its 2 years of OJT(On the Job training) or apprentiship. Its amended directly on our Architectural Laws. So you have to wait longer for your earnings.
Welp, its still nice to know that architects almost have all the same experience on class and lifestyle, albeit not all are good experience.
I’ve graduated in 2011 and have worked in my country for 2 years and from then, in Singapore. One day, I realized if I made the right decision of taking this field.
Like any other fields, you need to be trully passionate about this. Not because you liked to draw, doesn’t mean you need to be an Architect. There are other profession/jobs for people who can draw, and they are well-paid.
Unless you are well-connected, you will not earn much. That’s the reality in our field. You will meet a lot of people who will disregard your profession as just someone who knows how to draw. The people who values the Architect’s works are those who can afford us. And those who can afford us tend to get the well-established ones.
So yeah, there are a lot of considerations to take before getting into this field. These are just few of my sentiments. Good job in this video!
Thanks so much for your input. I love to hear about others' experience. It really helps those who are interested in the field. Thanks for the compliment! 🍻😃
i’m currently about to finish the 2nd semester of my first architecture year in italy and i have lots of doubts to be honest. i feel like i’m stuck between my life before architecture and my life like it is right now. i’m really analytical and scientific but only in human dynamics; i am really sensitive and tend to be empathetic, but i’d not define myself as creative. if i had to come back to a year before i don’t think i would’ve made the same choice, because i literally started from scratch at 19 year old: no drawing skill, little to no knowledge in modern and contemporary architecture, completely non existent software using skill. i just thought my sense of aesthetics and my analysis skill, together with the intention of solving social and urban problems would be enough as a motivation. i thought it would be a cool way to develop my creativity, my time management skills and would give me a cool status.
well, i really got hit by a train. i’ve always been a top student in high school, so i had really high expectations on myself. i struggled from the beginning and now it’s only getting harder, even more in this virus situation. i’m very slow, incapable of managing my time and sorting out my priorities and i miss loads of skills. but mostly my sensitivity really gets in the way and i get emotionally involved in lots of projects and relationships with other students too. i’ve worked with very good students and did my absolute best but it was clear that i wasn’t good enough for their level and they had to do more work. i’m constantly under pressure, have lots of anxiety and i feel frustrated and a failure most of the time. like i’m trying my best to be as good as the others just to feel validated, but the gap only appears to get bigger. i have really low downs every two days and really shy ups. i’m putting a lot of fatigue and energy and often feel deprived of what else built my identity before i started studying. i enjoy a few things, but really most of what i do is to feel validated towards me and the other students, but i’m aware of the fact that it would be near to impossibile for me to get as good as them. and this makes me suffer a whole lot.
i don’t know what to do because there’s no other bachelor course i would enjoy more. i just chose the most challenging one hoping it would shape me to be more resistant and skilled. but i really am having a hard time.
I'm like uuuu
U are me @Formula 1 the first year of architecture and I am completely dead from my last performance of the semester which took place yesterday. I have the same speech you are having now, going round in my head. I too found that the balance between effort / compensation in architecture is completely dead; no job, lots of work for bad pay, feeling long term dissatisfaction with your project it eats up your free time, you are still chased by the deadline, the project is haunting your whole mind, you skip it bedtime and it has long bad consequences for your health. the jobs are different and repetitive, you only work for one aspect of the project and its taking year and year to get that project finally done. I feel so free when my project is finally done and we change the subject. Staying on the same project for 3 years would kill me and more if it's just a small aspect. There are no set hours, I saw myself working from home and not sleeping for 3 days or Lil bit only, for a project and taking time out of my free time. I feel terrible when I compare my skills with other students, I remenbet the happy old me before architecture, I don't know what I've become, sad, stress out, always tired and always disasisfed. I remember the old me that didn't have to be that preocuped after a day of class. I don't feel in my place, it's . many years of hard hard study for.... What? . Becoming a real architect is very long long long, not just 6 years. In the end, you still have to fight for a living and a job and a salary. It’s as if Ur’s diploma meant nothing. I am leaving architecture ...