I am so glad that you continue to make TH-cam content. Easily my top pick for most underrated channel. I sincerely hope the algorithm gives you another boost. Would love to see you hit 10k subs. Well deserved. 0:50 you're so right in how spoiled we were back in the day! We had completely different wrestling games across 3 different platforms! And the only way to play them all was to own all 3 consoles! That kind of competition is what's missing these days..
Always appreciated the support my man, you've been there since day one almost now which is insane! 5k subs is the next goal and after that it'll be 10k, would be crazy to get to either if I'm honest. Yeah no competition which is a shame, that's why they get away with churning out the same game with a new coat of paint every year now, too many franchises been doing the same for years now. Least we still have the classics to revisit though 👌🏻
To answer the 'what game used the WWE branding first' question, I'd say it was probably Smackdown! Shut Your Mouth - Wrestlemania X8 had been in development for longer at the time, and the WWF/WWE rebranding occurred so late into this game's production, it would have taken extra time to change everything, so all the WWE branding is relegated to the game's cover and the trademark disclaimer before the developer logos play. The only real change they did to remove a WWF logo was removing the one on the Smackdown fist arena. Hell, a few very early North American covers used the unabbreviated 'World Wrestling Federation' title before changing that to the WWE logo. And yeah, Austin walked out on June 10th, 2002 (Same day as the game's NA release), so the later international releases (and the US Player's Choice re-release) replaced him with The Rock.
Nice one, I wasn't 100% sure myself as my memory from then is abit hazy, the product was insane back then. Austin walked out but it didn't take him long to come back if I remember, didn't he face the rock at wrestlemania 19? What a time to be alive man!
@@the16bitprick36no. I never go back to old wrestling games. I am one of those who thinks they continue to get better and I don’t see reason to go back. Also, the move sets were so limited it just didn’t offer much replay ability
When Jericho unified the titles, they had the old WWF belt and the World Heavyweight (WCW) belt for his entire reign. A few weeks after HHH beat him at WrestleMania X8, they replaced them both with the new Undisputed belt. They then brought back the World title months later, after this game's development cycle (and after its US release). From the release dates and roster, I'm guessing that the game itself was pretty much finalised before they changed the belt so that's why the old one is in the ladder match, but that they had time to slap an image of the new belt on the menu/victory screen. The roster also seems like it was finalised before X-Pac and Eddie Guerrero came back after WrestleMania X8.
@@codysnecktattoo3340 legend!!! Thanks for clearing that up, my memory is abit hazy from there. I forget they eventually dropped the name undisputed in favour of just WWE champion when the world heavy weight title was on raw and the other belt being on smackdown. Great times man, wrestling was so good then, smackdown slowly became absolutely brilliant after the brand split 👌🏻
Eddie was released in 2001 and didn't return until april of 2002 so he wasn't going to make the game since he returned too late to be included in this game. The rest were valid but you can create those stars in CAW since their faces are in CAW. The GC discs are small so they can add but so much.
@@the16bitprick36 He missed the whole invasion angle lucky Eddie haha he did get to be apart of Shut Your Mouth so it was all good we still got Latino Heat.
@@gamerdude612 your memory is alot more better than mines, I was thinking he was doing that angle with chyna but that was around wrestlemania 17 wasn't it? I might be well off though with that
@@the16bitprick36 Ahh your off by a year that was in 00 but yeah Mania 17 he beat Test for the European Championship then dropped it to Matt Hardy and got fired not long after that.
i would say these games were more closer to the n64 aki titles then smackdown, i think the move interrupting thing was for immersion but your right, here anyways it was kind of annoying. Smackdown games wouldn't have a feature like this until wwe 12 i believe.
The comparisons to aki games will become more apparent in the follow up wrestlemania 19, I'm actually loving playing that at the moment so looking forward to releasing that video. Dreading when I eventually get to WWE12 though 😬
I always like to share the story of how this game was the actual reason I bought a GameCube back in 2002. My friend down the street rented this one Friday and we played it for hours. I suppose I really appreciated the simple controls and the slapstick nature of it. It was just so damn hilarious and to top it off, we'd beat the shit out of the referee which to that point I don't remember a game where you could actually do that (I think WWF No Mercy's 'Guest Referee' mode couldn't be CPU controlled). Just really, really good memories with this one! Some fun facts: • My copy of WWF(E) WrestleMania X8 has the WWE logo on the cover art, but there's a WWF Officially Licensed Product sticker on the case laminate • Here in America, Stone Cold Steve Austin was on the front cover but was switched to the The Rock when the game hit the Players Choice status • I think Raven being a hidden character was the doing of one of the developers who was a huge fan of his, and wanted his inclusion to be special-- but I can't confirm that
Love hearing peoples memories from games lost in time, I've got some from what are regarded as bad games but it's what you make of it from the time right? By any chance would that be the same guy who insisted on having raven on the cover of the wcw N64 game? I remember listening to a podcast with raven and he mentioned something about that. Thanks for the fun facts though, great comment!
Glad your happy with the direction, couldn't have gone back and played smackdown Vs raw back to back after my computer exploded. Plus it's been years since I've touched these games on GameCube so it's nice to revisit them
Loved this game. Being knocked out of a move was often frustrating but also pretty cool. The fact that we could hit other characters with the one we were throwing is awesome. If that could be used to better effect it would be legendary
I think if I went back and played it now, this game would get old rather quickly. But as a kid I put hours into this game. This was my favorite game to play Hell in a Cell
I know this game gets a bad rap but I loved this game back in the day and still love it to this day. It was better than raw but worse than smackdown but we still chose to play this game over smackdown shut your mouth because the multiplayer was pure chaotic.
@@the16bitprick36 I did enjoy 19 but hated the story mode in that game. But at that point we were playing here comes the pain. Loved the day or reckonings tho
@@jeffbelval2075 yeah I'll definitely be touching on that when I make a video on it. Like you say though, here comes the pain was banging then so no need to worry
I enjoyed WM18 but it was clear a first in the series kinda game where it was missing a lot of things but was fun enough. Also, I remember the GameCube wavebird wireless controller showing this game and it looked so fun. Good times. WM 18 is the weakest of the WWE GameCube games as each game got better each year
The only good thing about this game is the fact that has the OG NWO. Apart from that, it's pretty basic. The sequel has better roster and more options.
It's Not the best WWE game but I enjoy it I've gone back to WM 18 so many times over the years I find to matches a little bit more competitive then the SD game during this period (BTW I believe Shut Your Mouth is the first fully WWE branded game beyond just the cover art) they fought back hard but yeah I hated 3 & 4 way matches on GC they are relentless haha.But I appreciate this game for what it is along with the hell in a cell comments I like the announce table doesn't disappear after it's broken like some other games or having the SD fist like Just Bring It or the only game having Kane Survivor Series 01 attire he's my favorite so that scored points with me again it's not the greatest game ever but it was good enough for me.
If it's good enough for you then that's all that matters my man! Good shout about announcers tables too, your right the smackdown games would have the table disappear. Yeah I love that survivor series 01 kane attire, got a figure of him in that attire too and it's class!
This was just another reason I had to make fun of my friends for buying a gamecube. Such a disappointment, especially after the n64 games. Another great video man.
Don't get me wrong the GameCube was a class system, just unfortunate the WWE games got off to a rocky start on it, suppose the same could be said for smackdown just bring it aswell though. Thanks man, always great to see you in the comments!
@the16bitprick36 Picking it up later in life I enjoyed some of the games on it. Eternal darkness sanitys requiem was a great game and still have my copy today, don't have the console anymore though.
I have that but never got round to playing it, only heard great things about it though. I've always had Nintendo consoles in my house growing up and still to this day as an adult, their exclusives have got to be the best in my opinion compared to playstation and Xbox but it all comes down to preferences I guess
"Gameplay lacks that oompth" spot on. I mind playing WM20 (maybe 19, can't mind) on my pal's gamecube and, as cracking as the presentation and graphics are, gameplay felt rubbish. Lack of a season mode is mental, especially if it was still yukes/thq making this game lol? What's the excuse?
@@mistyknightsbionicarm it what it is man. Just built my first ever one in the past month or so and it's an absolute beast!!! Was long overdue a new pc anyways so it's a blessing in disguise really
I am so glad that you continue to make TH-cam content. Easily my top pick for most underrated channel. I sincerely hope the algorithm gives you another boost. Would love to see you hit 10k subs. Well deserved.
0:50 you're so right in how spoiled we were back in the day! We had completely different wrestling games across 3 different platforms! And the only way to play them all was to own all 3 consoles! That kind of competition is what's missing these days..
Always appreciated the support my man, you've been there since day one almost now which is insane! 5k subs is the next goal and after that it'll be 10k, would be crazy to get to either if I'm honest.
Yeah no competition which is a shame, that's why they get away with churning out the same game with a new coat of paint every year now, too many franchises been doing the same for years now. Least we still have the classics to revisit though 👌🏻
To answer the 'what game used the WWE branding first' question, I'd say it was probably Smackdown! Shut Your Mouth - Wrestlemania X8 had been in development for longer at the time, and the WWF/WWE rebranding occurred so late into this game's production, it would have taken extra time to change everything, so all the WWE branding is relegated to the game's cover and the trademark disclaimer before the developer logos play. The only real change they did to remove a WWF logo was removing the one on the Smackdown fist arena. Hell, a few very early North American covers used the unabbreviated 'World Wrestling Federation' title before changing that to the WWE logo.
And yeah, Austin walked out on June 10th, 2002 (Same day as the game's NA release), so the later international releases (and the US Player's Choice re-release) replaced him with The Rock.
Nice one, I wasn't 100% sure myself as my memory from then is abit hazy, the product was insane back then. Austin walked out but it didn't take him long to come back if I remember, didn't he face the rock at wrestlemania 19? What a time to be alive man!
@@the16bitprick36 Yeah, he came back in early 2003, so thankfully he wasn't gone for too long :)
One of the first wwe games I was able to buy with money from my first job at the gas station
You played it recently? Guess it will have some nostalgia attached to it for you given how you got it, gas station was one of my first jobs too aswell
Lol
@@the16bitprick36no. I never go back to old wrestling games. I am one of those who thinks they continue to get better and I don’t see reason to go back. Also, the move sets were so limited it just didn’t offer much replay ability
@@theapecanoe6267 fair enough. Out of curiosity do you still play the newer ones that get released?
When Jericho unified the titles, they had the old WWF belt and the World Heavyweight (WCW) belt for his entire reign. A few weeks after HHH beat him at WrestleMania X8, they replaced them both with the new Undisputed belt. They then brought back the World title months later, after this game's development cycle (and after its US release). From the release dates and roster, I'm guessing that the game itself was pretty much finalised before they changed the belt so that's why the old one is in the ladder match, but that they had time to slap an image of the new belt on the menu/victory screen. The roster also seems like it was finalised before X-Pac and Eddie Guerrero came back after WrestleMania X8.
@@codysnecktattoo3340 legend!!! Thanks for clearing that up, my memory is abit hazy from there. I forget they eventually dropped the name undisputed in favour of just WWE champion when the world heavy weight title was on raw and the other belt being on smackdown. Great times man, wrestling was so good then, smackdown slowly became absolutely brilliant after the brand split 👌🏻
Eddie was released in 2001 and didn't return until april of 2002 so he wasn't going to make the game since he returned too late to be included in this game. The rest were valid but you can create those stars in CAW since their faces are in CAW. The GC discs are small so they can add but so much.
Really? I honestly cannot remember him being off the tv
@@the16bitprick36 He missed the whole invasion angle lucky Eddie haha he did get to be apart of Shut Your Mouth so it was all good we still got Latino Heat.
@@gamerdude612 your memory is alot more better than mines, I was thinking he was doing that angle with chyna but that was around wrestlemania 17 wasn't it? I might be well off though with that
@@the16bitprick36 Ahh your off by a year that was in 00 but yeah Mania 17 he beat Test for the European Championship then dropped it to Matt Hardy and got fired not long after that.
i would say these games were more closer to the n64 aki titles then smackdown, i think the move interrupting thing was for immersion but your right, here anyways it was kind of annoying. Smackdown games wouldn't have a feature like this until wwe 12 i believe.
The comparisons to aki games will become more apparent in the follow up wrestlemania 19, I'm actually loving playing that at the moment so looking forward to releasing that video.
Dreading when I eventually get to WWE12 though 😬
I always like to share the story of how this game was the actual reason I bought a GameCube back in 2002. My friend down the street rented this one Friday and we played it for hours. I suppose I really appreciated the simple controls and the slapstick nature of it. It was just so damn hilarious and to top it off, we'd beat the shit out of the referee which to that point I don't remember a game where you could actually do that (I think WWF No Mercy's 'Guest Referee' mode couldn't be CPU controlled). Just really, really good memories with this one!
Some fun facts:
• My copy of WWF(E) WrestleMania X8 has the WWE logo on the cover art, but there's a WWF Officially Licensed Product sticker on the case laminate
• Here in America, Stone Cold Steve Austin was on the front cover but was switched to the The Rock when the game hit the Players Choice status
• I think Raven being a hidden character was the doing of one of the developers who was a huge fan of his, and wanted his inclusion to be special-- but I can't confirm that
Love hearing peoples memories from games lost in time, I've got some from what are regarded as bad games but it's what you make of it from the time right?
By any chance would that be the same guy who insisted on having raven on the cover of the wcw N64 game? I remember listening to a podcast with raven and he mentioned something about that. Thanks for the fun facts though, great comment!
Blessed be the detour, another banger of a video 🙌🏽🙏🏽
Glad your happy with the direction, couldn't have gone back and played smackdown Vs raw back to back after my computer exploded. Plus it's been years since I've touched these games on GameCube so it's nice to revisit them
Loved this game. Being knocked out of a move was often frustrating but also pretty cool. The fact that we could hit other characters with the one we were throwing is awesome. If that could be used to better effect it would be legendary
Yeah it definatly could have been done better but like i said in the video i dont know how they could have achieved this
@@the16bitprick36 maybe if we could counter it. Chokeslam turns into a double chokeslam etc
I think if I went back and played it now, this game would get old rather quickly. But as a kid I put hours into this game. This was my favorite game to play Hell in a Cell
Any game with Scott Hall in it, rules.
Too sweet!
One of my Absolute favorite games
@@GOJOWrestling yaaaaas!!! Love to hear some different thoughts on this game, seems very divisive in the comments
I know this game gets a bad rap but I loved this game back in the day and still love it to this day. It was better than raw but worse than smackdown but we still chose to play this game over smackdown shut your mouth because the multiplayer was pure chaotic.
Always great to hear some positives from a video where I speak on the game in a negative light. Did you enjoy the follow up?
@@the16bitprick36 I did enjoy 19 but hated the story mode in that game. But at that point we were playing here comes the pain. Loved the day or reckonings tho
@@jeffbelval2075 yeah I'll definitely be touching on that when I make a video on it. Like you say though, here comes the pain was banging then so no need to worry
Any of you guys played this?
I never played it when it was new but I can try it on my computer.
@@marccaselle8108 let me know how you get on, dolphin emulator is fantastic 👌🏻
One of the first games I got on the gamecube as well as def jam.
GameCube disk had storage limitations. So they couldn’t include all the superstars.
Kevin Nash was not in WWF Wrestlemania The Arcade game. His last WWF game appearance would have been RAW on SNES/Mega Drive.
I swear I could remember diesel being in that 🤔
This game singlehandedly switched me to PlayStation
I enjoyed WM18 but it was clear a first in the series kinda game where it was missing a lot of things but was fun enough.
Also, I remember the GameCube wavebird wireless controller showing this game and it looked so fun. Good times. WM 18 is the weakest of the WWE GameCube games as each game got better each year
The only good thing about this game is the fact that has the OG NWO. Apart from that, it's pretty basic. The sequel has better roster and more options.
Fair comment to make. Working on the sequel just now so can't wait to get that released!
It's Not the best WWE game but I enjoy it I've gone back to WM 18 so many times over the years I find to matches a little bit more competitive then the SD game during this period (BTW I believe Shut Your Mouth is the first fully WWE branded game beyond just the cover art) they fought back hard but yeah I hated 3 & 4 way matches on GC they are relentless haha.But I appreciate this game for what it is along with the hell in a cell comments I like the announce table doesn't disappear after it's broken like some other games or having the SD fist like Just Bring It or the only game having Kane Survivor Series 01 attire he's my favorite so that scored points with me again it's not the greatest game ever but it was good enough for me.
If it's good enough for you then that's all that matters my man! Good shout about announcers tables too, your right the smackdown games would have the table disappear. Yeah I love that survivor series 01 kane attire, got a figure of him in that attire too and it's class!
This was just another reason I had to make fun of my friends for buying a gamecube. Such a disappointment, especially after the n64 games. Another great video man.
Don't get me wrong the GameCube was a class system, just unfortunate the WWE games got off to a rocky start on it, suppose the same could be said for smackdown just bring it aswell though.
Thanks man, always great to see you in the comments!
@the16bitprick36 Picking it up later in life I enjoyed some of the games on it. Eternal darkness sanitys requiem was a great game and still have my copy today, don't have the console anymore though.
I have that but never got round to playing it, only heard great things about it though. I've always had Nintendo consoles in my house growing up and still to this day as an adult, their exclusives have got to be the best in my opinion compared to playstation and Xbox but it all comes down to preferences I guess
LMMFAO 😂
"Gameplay lacks that oompth" spot on. I mind playing WM20 (maybe 19, can't mind) on my pal's gamecube and, as cracking as the presentation and graphics are, gameplay felt rubbish. Lack of a season mode is mental, especially if it was still yukes/thq making this game lol? What's the excuse?
If I remember correctly career mode picks up in the day of reckoning series on the GameCube which I cannot wait to revisit!
Sucks about the computer kick it's ass
@@mistyknightsbionicarm it what it is man. Just built my first ever one in the past month or so and it's an absolute beast!!! Was long overdue a new pc anyways so it's a blessing in disguise really