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How Thrasher ACTUALLY picks Their SOTY
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Thrasher SOTY is a business acknowledgment.
9 Club SOTY would be the people’s choice.
Tiago Lopes should have been SOTY. His 333 part was absolutely nuts. Nyjah too!
upvoting hoping if they notice your comment they will start their own.
@@justiceforjohnny2293 that part was insane but seriously what Yuto accomplished in 2023 is light years away from the comp. Let's talk jet lag and media responsibilities as well.
9 club SOTY stays on the board fr.. fuck Gary saying to put Thrasher on there , the board is what the real skaters are acknowledging
9 club SOTY!!!
And I will say it. If Nyjah didnt win it then, he never fucking will. That shit was insane and hes only getting older. Fuck outta here with that
He skates rails no one skates, he skates stairs no one skates, he hits flips into grinds no one fucking does. What Nyjah does is IMPOSSIBLE Gary, and i was a massive Nyjah hater. This year completely swayed my mind on him. He is our prodigal son
How much more does he have to evolve for thrasher to actually give it to him? He fucking skates like a cyborg yet they want MORE?!?!?
Bootlicking Gary's ass..... Working for Death Row..... Some of THE WEAKISH ish EVER to Fly Outta His MOUTH...... " Play the Game"?!?
they want $ in their pockets not nikes lmao thrasher soty is petty@@sparksk8er
Steezuz said it and Jeron agreed I think and said “real talk”
So what its come down to is Thrasher SOTY = skilled skater who helps Thrasher profit the most
Disagree. As wary as i am about (Thrasher) selling out, i also still think that nailing this down to profit puts a cynical twist to it that Thrasher - or skateboarding itself for that matter - doesn’t deserve. If Thrasher is what skateboarding represents (as debatable as that is), then a SOTY must represent Thrasher.
God forbid a business stay in business
If y’all really felt that way consolidated would be the biggest brand ever and last resort wouldn’t have a site wide sale rn lol
This is how it's always been except it was Phelps making the call. If he didn't like someone they didn't get shine in the mag. If he was closer to another skater in a big convention year, it was always the person that was closer to Phelps. Just like Gary said, David Gonzalez was on tour with Phelps while Guy was putting his photos in The SB Mag. Whoever got their name bigger in Phelps eyes got it. That's what's happened since the 90s.
This take doesn't make sense because Miles Silvas didn't drop his part until Mid December. You're telling me they saw more sales late in the last month of the year?! This is BS.
Sounds like the Nine Club needs to pick their own SOTY this year. Think of the marketing potential, annnnd that would be super fun for the audience.
“Think of the marketing potential”. Yeah, Thrasher did think of the marketing potential. That’s why they pick a SOTY
Only if it’s viewer vote.
I imagine they don’t want to deal with the politics of choosing one.
Basically it’s Thrasher’s Supporter Of The Year.
It’s pretty obvious skateboarding needs an unbiased SOTY award.
Tiago Lopes should have been SOTY. His 333 part was absolutely nuts.
It is quite literally impossible to create a Skater of the Year award and be unbiased. It's entirely subjective. Thrasher can objectively account for fiscal gains though, which is how they decide and frankly, makes sense.
Hell No, objektive skater of the year is for me completely irrelevant.
gifted hater soty
dude, skateboarding IS SUBJECTIVE, you may like tricks and skater others don't, some guys speak to you while others don't, and skateboarding being subjective it's why skateboarding its awesome, otherwise it would be like any other sport, skateboarding its more like an art form that it is a sport, it can be competitive, but it would suck if all skateboarding would be sls treated
This award feels much less prestigious now. I’m not sure this was the correct move for Thasher as a brand to come out and admit that this is how the voting process actually goes down.
Nyjah: “ my street part is about to be killer “
Gary: “ but what have you done for the mag tho? “
ok. so fuck soty then.
No one cared this yr
My response as well. Completely devalues the SOTY award.
garysaid it's all marketing now
and Garry use to think he was funny but he just a bootlicker.
Start your own magazine and give it to whoever you want.
Thrasher had its day… Nine Club awards in 2024 🔥
They would disqualify skaters for cussing and smoking probably.
This conversation just proves that the American skate scene needs another skateboard magazine and an annual skateboard award equivalent to SOTY.
I’m over having thrasher being the taste maker for skateboarding.
Same
Same.
Gary is shooting himself in the foot here and actually making the perception on SOTY worse than it was. So if you don't have covers/features/interviews in Thrasher, it's your fault. If you release a beast part for your board or shoe company, it doesn't count. It's only based on who helped Thrasher profit the most, and who had their "moment". And moment is defined by what they did specifically for Thrasher, not for skateboarding. And criticizing their choice or speculating is bad for skateboarding because we're not Thrasher insiders with the password to the building and we don't know what's going on behind closed doors.. Gotcha, well, the award means less to me than it did before I watched this video. Fuck it. Gary is annoying.
Spot on
thats why its THRASHER'S skater of the year and not, all around skater of the year, its not that hard to understand, its THRASHER picking who they feel represented THRASHER the most, why would they pick someone that feature all their parts on freemag, pocket, jenkem, transworld or even instagram? IF IT'S THRASHER'S SKATER OF THE YEAR! dude seriously, i mean its on the fkn title. sure it would be kinda fcked up if they don't feature someone who dropped mind bending parts/content on the poll, but in the end its totally understandable why they would be picking someone who did got all of their content through thrasher
Nine Club needs to do their own Skater of the Year
It's a conversation? Ha. Gary makes one point the whole segment and talks over everyone else on the program while doing it
Gary is just too loud The only legit thing he said in this bit was what are you doing for thrasher thrasher pics who wins. Nyjah was robbed TJ didn't deserve it and this is politics that run the skate industry thrasher is a joke most of the time skater of the year is becoming a joke. Gary literally needs to get his nose out of TJ's booty hole. The fact he keeps saying Nyjah is not getting no covers is crazy because almost every trick he does could be a cover but because he is not rocking with thrasher y'all trying to blacklist him. Gary is the biggest 🤡 Good for entertainment but his opinions are solely based on who his homies are
Jeron.... You're the man. Respect the man who gives nothing BUT respect
I really wish dubs would've stepped up and held his opinion firm regarding nyjah and SOTY. How many more overpasses (with trucks flying through) will Nyjah need to back smith to get the award. Nobody wants to see that that dude die now.
"watch four dudes interrupt eachother for 25 minutes, the video"
Gary not letting anyone talk*
He's passionate
really only one doing the interrupting
For all these years I thought the winner was who Thrasher thought laid down the heaviest parts/tricks over the last 12 months in skateboarding. Now I know it’s who served the company the most. Doesn’t seem to have the same weight to it now.
He said that you have to help the magazine... but Miles Silvas part didn't drop until mid December.... absolutely makes no sense.
Let’s not talk about the Supreme/Thrasher collab that dropped exactly 1 year prior to Tyshawn winning the 2nd one, that put a LOT of money in the good ppl at Thrashers pockets, let’s forget about that.. I’m sure Thrasher forgot about it when making their choice
PREACH!!!!!
bro got the nerve to say SOTY isn't about who can kiss our ass the most after describing that's what they prioritise for it lmao
The first Supreme and thrasher collab was in 2015 then again in 2017 with AVE winning in 2015 and Foy winning in 2017. So thats kinda flawed
@@planbflipdarkstar they’ve done numerous collabs, the latest one dropping near the end of 2021, October I believe, exactly 1 year prior to Tyshawn winning.. It would be a bit obvious if he’d won it 2 months later, it wouldn’t be so obvious if he won it a year later though
In other words $OTY is not about the best skater of the year but who is giving more money to the mag that year.
Thrashers salesman of the year
Do Nine Club awards
If we talk about “winning it when it’s their moment” it was Tfunk and louie Lopez moment 💀💀
Louie yeah tfunk no
Gary is pretty funny and has some good insights but really could learn to pause long enough to let others speak/finish their sentences. We all had to learn this skill growing up.. Don't talk over others!
It's very simple, Thrasher needs to make it so people vote, that's it.
Garry [Interrupts host]: “I’m not really talking to you. I’m talking to kids.”
Chris: “But this is what’s great about having a CON-VER-SATION. And a lot of people don’t have CON VER SATIONS anymore. It’s just about throwing their shit onto the internet. […] They’re not having a conversation with anybody.”
Yea Gary is a clown
I bet Gary would be a terrible roommate to have
I get it, Thrasher’s SOTY has a a financial meaning behind it. That’s fine they need that to stay alive.
Now we need a SOTY award from someone (The Nine Club) that actually appreciates the work some of these people put into their craft. Shit they can even pick SOTY categorized by type of sponsor. Board brands, shoe brands, wheels, etc, etc…. There’s so much content and so many different styles that it would be basically impossible to pin just one individual. I dont think The Nine Club should turn into some big sport analysis type show but I think a lot of people in this community deserve that praise.
"Skating never been about who better"
Did gary like....ever watch any doc about skating in the 70s and 80s lmao. There were mfs that were THE BEST and no one could touch them. Lmao THE FUCK bruh
Mfs wanted to BEEEEEE tony and the gang. They were UNTOUCHABLE
If Gary has a lot to say about Nike, say sumn bout Cairuma bud
Worst thing to happen to skateboarding IMO. I wonder what the new Berrics name will be when they try to blend it with Killmeuma
@@Bizarr0 Berricariuma
@@episodebeats2817 hahaha. I can see it happening
So pretty much need a good photographer like atiba to get a picture of you doing a 50-50 on a red curb making you look tight, and you win SOTY. Got it
P much bud, gary complaining about nike snatching everything up, yet thrasher, the only skate mag, tryna say u gotta do it this way to be "soty" that aint soty thats fucking poster boy teachers pet
They want you to sell their magazine. Go figure.
Thrasher Skater of the Year = PROFITS
Phelps Skater of the Year = PASSION
Thrasher’s dignity died with Phelps. RIP
This mans been so far up tyshawns rear end since day 1. we get it your both black but my god the bias gary has for black skaters is ridiculous
I think we all understand why Thrasher picks who they pick, we just wish it was less biased to who does the most for the mag and more for who puts out the best shit that year in general. Yes, it's "Thrasher" SOTY, but I think people feel that since Thrasher is so legendary and represents skateboarding, that they would do what's right by skateboarding. Obviously, not how it works, but how most people would like it to work.
Gary is right though. We just need to stop looking at it that way and someone needs to create an unbiased SOTY award that goes to the correct person via fan/skater voting. We shouldn't think of Thrashers SOTY as the actual SOTY. We all know it's politics with them.
Let us not forget Ishod lost to AVE because they wanted to do a retrospective fuckin participation award trophy and told him "youll win it again" hasnt won it since. Fuckin soty is a joke
That’s the year Shane nollie bs heel flipped down Wallenberg in a Thrasher part too.
Reply to all my comments im heated on this shit since 2019
@world_of_manny_malibu lmfao jesus christ i forgot that too. What the fuck man
but propeller tho
@@jpgrdnr IT WAS FILMED OVER THE COURSE OF 3 YEARS. ABSOLUTELY NOT SOTY ELIGIBLE
9 club SOTY would just be their favorite too. this happens w grammys, oscars, emmys, what have you. the organization involved obviously has biased personal interests, and its completely fair that they pick the skater that pushed thrasher the hardest/put on for thrasher the hardest/ and that threw down the hardest. TJ's wins are undeniable years of insane skating + everything he did for Thrasher... its THRASHER's SOTY!! what we need is more diversity of awards that matter. Since all the other publications are becoming more irrelevant, they don’t matter as much so we only have thrasher soty to look to. yall want more options then pull up and support all your favorite publications and skate brands so they too can host big awards
How is that a good marketing choice? Most people disagreed?
Gary was swinging for his life for his job at thrasher and all I really heard is who ever kisses Thrashers ass the most and makes them the most money to be even considered SOTY
“Nyjah won skateboarding that year” but it wasn’t his moment guys. Dude’s just being intentionally obtuse
Fr, wtf is Gary on about. Dude is completely showing his biasness
@@user-sg7br7qu8j WHAT IT DO FOR THE BOOK THOUGH
Lmao Gary did not stfu for 25 min straight
its his interview, why wouldnt he??
then call it trashers advertiser of the year, and the argument with the footage has to be filmed that year is whack too cause if you look at the history of soty it hasnt been the case much
So Nine club trying to do damage control with this upload. Soty is bogus, Gary is bogus
You’re definitely bogus dog. They didn’t edit the podcast on what he said, they aren’t speaking for him. They’re giving him a platform to speak FACTS.
I’m getting those mental gymnastics vibes from Gary’s argument. I understand being loyal to your people, but just say it how it is. If you don’t do work for Thrasher, you’re not going to win.
Yeah the dude seems delusional honestly
"If you don’t do work for Thrasher, you’re not going to win" - .That's literally what he said the whole time.
"All you can do from outside the club is speculate who shaking ass" - Gary Rogers
The main problem with soty now is, don't give hope to people that didn't even have a shot, now that we know soty is picked based on is it thrasher branded now we know that Sheckler and Nyjah didn't have a shot, but to just be silent and let everyone assume they had a shot is what's not right
Going forward we now know, but that wasn't cool to just let us think that for the sake of hype for your brand
Gary gotta take a chill pill, attacking the pod isn't it.
Yea he was deff getting a little rude lol
you guys are so soft lmao , they need more guys like gary
@@ba7260 they disliked the episode caus Gary was spitting facts lmao ?
It's just bad image to directly go for someones pod/business. He's being paid to be there. Show a little respect, spit facts, but that got awkward and he kept it goooooing. @@MissingScrew27
im not upset , i think gary stated the obvious , we can agree to disagree@@ba7260
Hoping for a Nine Club SOTY!
Let Nyah go skate them subways bet he’ll get some crazier content
Gary is unwatchable...ive never just left a nine club episode but this ddemade me do that... Gary is unwatchable... That is what you do for skateboard podcasts Gary... You make them unwatchable!
naaah, i mean, i get he is all over the place why you may not like him, but he is spitting facts, and he doesn't deserve the hate he gets. if you dont like him, go ahead, don't listen to the guy, but don't go do this whole proud shit comment about how YOU think he is unwatchable
There's a difference between
THRASHERS pick for SOTY
And
THRASHERS pick for their SOTY
And now knowing this, just sours and water downs the meaning of what we all just thought SOTY was
And that's a shame, the chuck of people that should have won but didn't because it wasn't a thrasher part is crazy
Gary took that line "If nyjah don't win this year he won't ever" in the wrong context
He took this as if he's not good enough anymore or if he's to old now
No no no no no that's not at all what that meant, it meant that was Nyjahs best part to date, hands down everyone agrees unanimously an amazing part, and if that doesn't win that means thrasher doesn't pick based on skill or how how Gnarly something is its only picked on style and feel
And that part was the apex of skill and gnarly, style and feel was absolutely there
That not winning means that soty is picked based on just feel and style and that's half of skateboarding
Nyjahs part had skill, gnar, style, and feel
If that part was on thrasher would it have won then?? That's the question now
Nine club make your own skater of the year we got your back
Tiago Lopes should have been SOTY. His 333 part was absolutely nuts. Nyjah too!
Thrasher wack as their pentagram and goat faced master
Gary and thrasher sold out. Thrasher not core anymore, it’s advertising itself not the skaters. The soty talk is completely bias based on the “round table.” Let the people decide.
Thrasher should have an Icon Award every 5 years to give these guys like Guy their flowers. Not magazine based or anything. Just a Thank You from skateboarding.
Nyjah should have got it, Tyshawn already got it so it was bs imo. Nyjah got ripped off on that year soty. Same with this year, should have gone to Sheckler
And that first Tyshawn soty,they ripped Joslin so hard!!!
Remember, everyone. It is THRASHER SOTY, not "The Skateboard Community's" SOTY.
Cmon 9 Club start your own SOTY award please
So it's Thrashers most profitable skater of the year, good to know
Nyjah is a rad skater tho, he just took a different path and wanted to support his family. Back in the late 90s early 00s competions were huge and there was a group.of skaters that really only skated contests and thats what they did. Times just changed and nyjah was a kid back then at the very end of it but he still doing it that way. Im not a nyjah fun but i can respect the path he took
At least he acknowledged and was honest why he thought Jeron wouldn't have said it... lmao even though the comment itself isn't even a big deal. It's a real thought
acting like he forgot TFUNKS name
Make the criteria crystal clear.
Kelly got hyped over Gary’s approval 😂
He s hyped over fucking ai art
Gcode needa take those weak ass chains off 😂😂😭
I love that Chris put emphasis on "CONVERSATION", because that's what's missing big time these days.
What’s up with thrasher letting you vote then? It makes you think that the people choose but it’s already chosen by the magazine. Fug dat
I still can't believe people care so much about SOTY. A lot of you just straight up don't get skating.
If enough ppl didn’t know tj rodgers story WHY NOT BOOST IT WITH SOTY???
This makes so much sense too! People (myself included) forget that this is “Thrasher magazine’s SOTY” but it’s pretty much known that Thrasher is the skate bible…people tend to forget that it has something to do with marketing too…there’s not many skate mags left…
Something to do with marketing? More like seems as the absolutely biggest decision factor
Phelps is rolling in his fucking grave. Thrasher choosing marketing over what's rad is depressing!
@@twillymantheoneandonly5587 phelps was a sellout too. they were always doing shady shit.
From a outside perspective I also thought it was a global award. Now it’s clear to me.
A Nine Club SOTY is all that matters now. Thrasher sold their nuts and wounded the integrity of skateboarding.
There should be different categories for soty. Biggest sender, most tech, most influential, most style, etc...
The year Suciu won SOTY= absolutely 0 covers
He had parts go to spitfire and adidas. Some went to thrasher.
Suciu absolutely should have won because he had the most impactful skating that year.
"If Nyjah didn't get it that year, he never will" is absolutely correct. They aren't talking about Nyjah's inability to produce another great part or parts like is what is being argued and what gary is being offended by. They and most are saying Nyjah won't ever win despite having the most impactful skating because he isn't core and that in it of itself is a corny ass way to judge skateboarding.
💯
nine club/skate club SOTY we need it and i need it.. comeon guys pls make it happen whoever best skate part or skate accomplishments ❤
Thrasher magazine made my childhood. I couldn't wait to go to the magazine shop in the mall to get the newest issue ( and probably to look at the covers of the dirty magazines too lol). My childhood room was covered from the floor to the ceiling with cut outs from the mag. And then we would use the adds to make stickers.
man so my soty votes don’t mean anything :(
the amount of S words bleeped but F words left in makes me laugh every time
I don’t even have to watch this bullshit. They pick whoever the fuck they want. But he has to be “hesh”. Lol
Loud obnoxious wanna be Dave Chappelle.. Now he seems to be “all knowing” too
Sent this video to Nyjah 😂
Tiago Lopes should have been SOTY. His 333 part was absolutely nuts.
Tiago Lopes should have been SOTY. His 333 part was absolutely nuts.
Jamie Thomas and Chad Muska I feel like deserved a soty at some point too
It’s crazy that Thomas never won, he was doing shit no one would ever even attempt in the misled youth era
You got to take this into consideration : they worked with Transworld a lot. coverage, tours, vids was def done with TWS the majority of the time. I def do understand what you meant though.
would be good to get someone else to do soty. nice they are somewhat open about how soty works for them. but that‘s not what the community needs 🤷🏼♂️ we all are looking for the most dope skater of the year not the most bought cover …
Phelps is rolling in his fucking grave. Thrasher choosing marketing over what's rad is depressing!
This is exactly what I thought happened when Nyjah lost. Thrasher cares about their own bottom line more than what their opinion means to the community. Fair enough. But those are the kinda decisions that lose credibility with me. Props to Gary for being real about it.
We need a Nine Club Soty where theres no biases and its just whoever had the dopest parts and year of skateboarding Overall while having the public vote.
So us Skaters voting for SOTY online doesn’t matter since three guys in the Office really choose who wins.
If Phelps was still alive Tj Roger’s would’ve got the crown by now.
Aye bro …. Stfu and let other people talk !! 😂😂
Did this guy say skateboarding has NEVER been about who’s better? Tf are the competitions for then? 😂
"Screw Nyjah..." Thats how they pick.. He was Robbed!!!
Made sense when there was a bunch of other mags. Now its JUST thrasher and NO ONE else. So who fucking gives a FUCK what they did for thrasher. They are alone at the peak of skate media, yet gary goes on about nike snatching shit up. Fucking get a sense of retrospect ffs
TFunk 2022, Evan Smith 2019. Fucking robbed
Can’t believe they didn’t even remember TFunk had that 2022 run. Some of the most insane skateboarding I’ve ever seen, and they just disrespected him
Phelps rolling in his grave.
I hope Nyjah paid Gary well cause he'll never be invited back 😂
Garry Rogers is funny af, but when its serious hes such a nice and humble dude
I'm gonna say it....Thrasher ain't it, it's official
This is the most awkward interview I have ever seen on this channel. Also proof that anyone can take normally laid back people out of their element. Good lord. Just because you are talking above everyone else in audible volume does not mean you are correct. It's a platform for discussion.
I have no idea what Gary is saying. I swear he isn’t speaking English some of the time.
SOTY is just a Thrasher thing, it revolves within thrasher not in skateboarding as a whole. they care more about the profit