If it’s THIS bad man needs help and we need to rally around him instead of alienate him. We gotta take care of the boys, nobody is perfect man, we all struggle with something.
This one hurts Jake like we come of a champs win and already not even a month in to the new season something happened ignoring the rumors I wish the best for Pred hopefully he can comeback guy is a monster on the game.
My thoughts are that it has to be something pretty bad. Within 24 hours, OpTic makes a team change, all their social media accounts unfollow him, and people in the scene not debunking the “gambling” allegations and just telling people not to speculate or post screenshots of dms, I think there’s truth to those allegations. Now who knows the 100% truth, except H3CZ and Pred. But if it were just a big gambling problem, I don’t think H3CZ and OpTic would cut ties with him. I believe they would ask him to step away from the scene for a bit try to get him help. This seems like something deeper and worse than just a gambling problem.
It's more than just a gambling problem because he's gambling other peoples money and not paying them back. When you start lying about shit to feed your addiction, that's where it becomes a big problem.
@@iZaners Its defo gambling, enough proof and the reason they dropped him etc because now games could be investigated as he could have been throwing games purposely to win bets etc, which is all illegal and could cause issues for optic. Either way it needs to get addressed asap.
@@martinp485 if it comes out that Pred is gambling other peoples money and/or betting on league matches, it 100% WOULD cause problems for OpTic, not only publicly but maybe legally, depending on if/what they knew was happening.
Pred was so clear it was his dream to be on optic 😢. He gets on optic, hes living out his literal dream wins champs his first year on optic and now it could be all gone. Not defending whatever he has done, its just a heartbreaking story for this to go down.
@@nathanh2725Ofcourse but people do shitty things when addictions come into play. People don’t understand nearly how serious gambling addictions are and how high the suicide rate is for gambling addicts. The shit drains every aspect of your life away if you don’t get the help you need.
I feel bad for Ant and Pred man, you can tell they really had fun playing together. Ant is just so innocent and you know he doesn’t really understand at all what his friends are going through and just wants to game and win with his boys
As much as I think Huke will be good. AG is the energy for this team, he helped Ant get out of his shell, and become an overall better player. I just hope this doesn't lead to him getting full dropped next off season
I like pred. The energy he brings. The love for the org. Great teammate. I loved that he got his dream. Buuuut, i also love Huke as a player and person. This team could actually be a problem with those two flying around. Game was made for huke and shotzzy type of style. Hope pred is ok, we all make mistakes. As long as its not some diddy stuff, i think hell come back eventually if the league lets him
This is so gutting as an optic fan. Was a big fan of Pred. He’s so young and he is a human being he makes mistakes like the rest of us. Whatever the truth may be I just hope he can bounce back not just so he can come play but for his own personal life and future. Prayers for AG. 💚
This has to be the gambling rumor then. I don't know how losing a love one, having a kid, or someone is sick and it ends up like this. Illey had an addiction. Pred has an addiction. We may not know the full truth ever, but once an OpTic member, always an OpTic member. Prayers for both! Glad to see Illey back in the game. Hope to see Pred one day rebound from this. Oof
@@workhardt8080he’s not going to be in any legal trouble. Just in trouble with cdl. You see athletes getting suspended in sports every year for gambling on their sports and don’t get in trouble with the law. What would make anyone think there is anything illegal about what he did lmao
@@switchmaster5860 Gambling on your own sport vs gambling on your own matches are 2 very different things, one has the implication of match fixing (illegal) and the other does not. But again we dont know any exact details atm, I did not say its likely he ends up in legal trouble just that its possible. Either way my entire point was just that if he bet on his own matches his COD career is over, so I hope he didn't mess around with that.
@@switchmaster5860 betting on yourself and your team in a team sport is def against the law, the ppl u see getting suspended for gambling are gambling on other teams. And also gambling from the team facilities.
@@switchmaster5860because none of the athletes bet on their own team… this is a huge difference.. kinda how they won major 3 then placed 12th at major 4 and pred was laying down in random spots and not playing like normal, then turn around and win champs ? I mean it was kinda obvious cus kenny and pred were arguing about his gameplay. it all makes sense, so it’s not far off if it is
@ first thing I noticed form other reports was they’re like reporting these things as if there real info lol. I can’t stand that to me it shows you have no respect for the players and are just repeating for the check that TH-cam gives.
I fully agree that Optic does have to say something, at least eventually and hopefully soon. It might be making things worse that they’re just letting the community sit and theory craft.
Hmm. Even Rab didn’t have that info about optic unfollowing. If that is true then they’re trying to disconnect from pred which means the worst. Shitty situation man. He went from grinding in AUS to being on the best team in the world in 2-3 years. More money than he has ever seen in his life. Clearly likes to party and shit. That’s too bad
No way Hecz would let someone get into such a big debt to him, especially his own players! Hecz love the people in Optic way too much and is known for giving out a helping hand to people
I've been an OpTic fan since cod4. It sucks to see what the org has become. I'm happy OpTic has grown, but like Amazon, it's grown too big for its own good. If this is true, I'm not surprised gambling has affected this young man. Note, cod is a virtual casino, and 2: gambling can become an addiction. Play at your own risk because the dealer does not care about you.
I think that If someone were scammed or had their money taken by Pred for the purposes of gambling then they are fully allowed to voice their opinions and experience
This is a deeper issue than most realize. The league roster lock is mondays. The only way you can have huke joining like he did is in league approved emergencies which “this guy has a gambling problem” wouldn’t fit. He had to be betting on his own matches or taking money from others and lying. It’s sad because he seems like such a nice dude and was vital to Optics repeat chances. Hope I’m wrong but I fear the pepperoni doesn’t miss
No offense but youd have to be smoking hard drugs probably injecting at that point to think the leauge isnt gonna approve Huke to Optic. They would get 6 viewers? way to much money involved for petty stuff like that to be happening cuz you know Hecz would just compete with the league at that point and probably win because Optic is bigger than competitive CoD itself.
I agree, I don’t think anyone needs to say what happened. I do think OpTic should say if he’s still affiliated with them or not at some point in the next few weeks or so
I'm Def glad they got Huke the chemistry is already there so hopefully they can do good. OpTic unfollowing Pred Def ain't a good look tho but spreading rumors and the screenshots is wild I hope everyone is okay. Thanks for being reasonable and helping out the community
OpTic and OpTic Texas Twitter have in fact both unfollowed Pred on Twitter, which is insane.. clearly there’s something more to this, I mean Pred has not said a word or streamed in 2 days, so clearly something went down.
I think it’s more serious to remove Pred on X and take his verification Badge maybe a fist fight drinking altercation with teammate possible but that’s just speculation.
Pred is probably bench for huke (yes i know he doesn't have OpTic logo anyway but he still on OpTic Texas team list if you look at OpTic Gaming website, breakingpoint website, or the Call of duty league website so it's not over for pred)
I hope pred isn’t dropped as he’s become one of my favourite players we’ve ever had. Hope it’s a temporary thing. Definitely a wake up call to pred if those rumours are true. Hope all is well and wishing the best for whatever is happening rn. Optic will definitely miss pred in the long run no offence to huke but
Conflicted with this whole situation on the one hand, I'm happy Huke is back in the league doing his thing, but I don't want to see him being the scapegoat again, just like he has been multiple times for good reasons (not performing on lan consistently) will always defend my goat though. on the other hand however, it is sad to see Pred's downfall happen like this. I'm not trying to speculate, but I don't think it's family issues, at least because he would come out and say that if it was so, it probably is something bigger. At the end of the day, though, I am happy that Huke is back on a team and hope to see him fry his old team since this COD seems to be more of his play style.
My guess is he racked up a debt with people you shouldn’t rack up debt with and whoever those people are might have physically approached him or threatened it and also maybe pressed the optic org for it too. That’s my guess
Nah if someone in the public eye is borrowing money from me, and not paying it back, and publicly making as much as pred makes? I’m putting him on blast publicly. I may warn him before hand but I’m putting him on blast. Idc abt his career that’s messed up
If he does be owing people money I understand them posting about it, but there was also plenty that just started firing away online that aren’t claiming he owed them
@ of course. But he’s a public figure, he should have known he’d be exposed for fucking ppl over. Yeah the people that have nothing to do with it are weird, but that’s what happens when you’re sort of famous.
OpTic can't catch a break with their rosters, and it genuinely sucks they get Pred win Major 3 and finally win champs after 7 years. No changes needed for a team that was trying to go B2B and just after the first week of qualifiers, this happens. You could not make this up, honestly. Wishing the best for AG for whatever is happening behind the scenes, and he gets better and is able to make a comeback if that is possible. As an OpTic fan though, I have to write this year off nothing against Huke. I'm sure he'll fry, but I don't think they go B2B or even win a major this year, not gonna lie. They'll still compete for sure but I don't think they find the success they had in MW3 this season.
I agree that nothing is confirmed but where there is smoke there is fire. Also I think orgs and players need to be more transparent with the fans. The fans are the reason that their career is possible and just keeping stuff behind the scenes and not letting the fans know wtf is going on will not be viable for the long term of esports.
As a fellow Australian and a 23 year old who has dealt with gambling issues when I was a little younger this shit just makes me sad I hope bro is okay even if he done wrong
People are gonna say some crazy things. As a society where drama is king, people say the craziest things. So while there might be some truth to somethings out there and where there’s smoke there’s fire, I’ll wait until we hear from Pred about the situation. I hope the best for Pred and that if he does need help he gets that help and comes back stronger and better than ever.
If it was the gambling and debt thing, it would’ve been aired out way sooner he wasn’t paying up. It has to be something worse or something that would jeopardize the org itself
It has been around the scene, the name hasn't come up specifically but people have narrowed it down to him. Rab made a video about a pro not paying for $8's a while ago
Match fixing allegations when they're 1-1 and it was the whole team kinda falling short that cost the first series is crazy to me. I'm not going to speculate on what it IS, but I'm almost sure Match fixing when you're the reigning world champ who placed top 4 at EWC and 2nd at Kaysan's Lan isn't the problem. I hope that whatever it is, Pred and anyone involved with the issue are ok. There is more to life than CoD or any video game, regardless of how much I love watching the eSport. It feels like all these people with absolutely 0 involvement suddenly know everything about the situation and lost all sense of empathy.
@@Editss213 When they won Major 3 and Champs? If it come out that Pred sabotaged their Major 4 for gambling I guess, but it seems so unbelievable to say any of their season was rigged for gambling.
@ You’re referencing a singular play from all the maps and modes played in Major 4 like that proves he threw the whole split? And I honestly don’t know what you referencing, could you be more specific to what series this is?
The fact that optic actually did unfollow Pred is deep…whatever the real story is behind closed doors, the unfollow is very worrying. If this was a “temporary” thing where they were giving him some time off to deal with some personal issues whether it be a gambling addiction etc, then surely they wouldn’t have unfollowed him? They would show him support and love and give him the time and wait for him to come back right?, But the unfollow? I u follow my Ex when we brake up bro..the u follow means there’s some anger or bad vibes in the background.
optic wont say shit about whats going on because its a personal matter. its gonna have to come from pred or the league if the league is involved or it has something to do with the league. if it doesnt then they ant saying shit either so its gonna have to come from pred when hes ready
Sad situation, partially put it on the league and Org they could've gave us any reason and the situation would be left alone instead they leave it to us to guess
I'm more surprised this hasn't happened more often. Gambling is so commercialized/mainstream that it's stained sports/esports. Anyone who's done it can attest how addicting and poison it is, not a laughing matter if he's that much in debt. He 100% should be banned permanently to set a precedent unfortunately, just like how IBUYPOWER got made an example of in CSGO. Just a sad story though cause now everyone is going to go pull up a ton of clips and moments where he was playing so sus costing Optic/Surge a ton of games.
Optic fans are matinaining more composure in this situation than I would be. I guess they have some kind of faith in Huke. Imo we just dropped to a 2 team league.
I don’t have faith in Huke at all. No way we are beating LAT and maybe not even Faze.. Huke is great against crap teams yes, but on LAN against the top teams, he just doesn’t show up majority of the time. I have no doubt about it we can get top 3 or maybe even 2nd on a good weekend. But I can’t see Optic beating LAT on their worst day. Gonna have to hope Pred can come back somehow, or need to make a big trade/signing next season. Maybe simp. Not to many other options.
Dude I have followed your Twitter for a while and just discovered you have a TH-cam channel. Good content, but I have a polite suggestion that it's okay to speak calmly. I usually put on cod news with my coffee or lunch at work but your video started giving me stress because of the panicky tone 😅
I apologize in advance for the long comment 😂I have a lot of experience in Addiction this is Text Book gamble addiction behavior. Also the Pro community is so small that this was pretty well known, and I remember a few CoD titles back it was kind of a running joke that Pred would pay up when ever he was playing pro-8s. Also with Optic unfollowing him seems a very weird thing to do, because in comparison If anyone remembers optic Maniac he had some struggles with addiction and Optic was very supportive through the entire process (no pun intended) Now if the screen shots are real they reminded me of the streamer sliker, if anyone remembers that story, a ton of screen shots leaked of sliker almost verbatim to what Pred was DM’ing people. and sliker was even hitting fans up for money that’s how severe his Gambling Addiction
Definitely was betting. Reasoning behind drop is definitely because he bet on their own match. Odds were juice vs Boston this week. If it’s true he’s a bit of a degen gambler and owes some people. I can see that as a quick come up for him. Sad to see. Gambling, pills, and alcohol be careful people
I think the most likely answer is that he was betting on his own matches and once they lost to Boston opening match it started to come out. He most likely bet a lot of money on that match.
If he’s betting on his own matches that he will lose but his kill death hill time and play style don’t change then I don’t get how it’s possible especially with 3 of his teammates trying hard to win. I believe he did I just don’t get how he did
@@user-ch8il6og4fI don’t find anything wrong with that lol. I’m sure so many people bet on them winning. Betting on losing and unders is a different situation. Throwing games purposely is sad. I doubt he did that tho. I bet in preds overs every game and majority of the time they always hit.
Well pred is done and probably want be back this is more serious then gambling and debt but I hope he gets the help he needs and gets back to playing cod and winning a chip for optic again go greenwall and the boys will do great with huke 🤝
The fact Optic have unfollowed him isn't good. But I'd be more worried that Kenny, Dashy and Shottzy have unfollowed him. Seems very unlikely he'll be back imo
I am pretty sure he was betting on matches but thru a bookie, then he was using that money he was winning and bet it on sports and lost big, refused to pay his bookie, his bookie then snitched on him to a teammate or the League and then that is how he got caught... I am pretty sure Pred isnt the only CDL player that bets on the matches.. He is just the only one that has been caught so far. He was streaming just 12 hours prior to getting dropped and was playing 8s with Shotzzy.. I am assuming he lost a ton of money on the Mavs ML losing or he bet over on Luka and that lost.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read.. this is all just speculation and some made up bullshit in your head lmao. Betting on games? Betting on the Mavs? Having a bookie? Betting on Luka Donic?. Are you okay my man? Lol. Stop making shit up. You don’t know what really happened, so simply close your mouth and wait for the “real” info like everyone else. No need to spread false information like this kid.
The big thing here is the refusal of Optic and creators and Pred himself to comment. With the gambling rumor spiraling out of control if there wasn’t atleast some truth to it then someone would have went and said something.
I love my boy pred but claiming to be a Muslim and having a gambling addiction is highly haram… I pray he gets through whatever hard times hes going through
If he purposely hit his unders last week so someone could cash I wouldn't be surprised. Easy enough to pull off in SnD. wonder how long till someone gets caught red handed doing it
Clearly Huke was frying Pred in 8’s, AG gets cocky, challs Cuylar to a 1v1, Huke says for your spot in the roster”” Pred says fuck yeah”” if yih win you can take my starting position in the OpTic roster”” Huke proceeds to smoke him bad, and now we have a new Submachine player on the team… trust me this is factually how this happened.💯✅💯 😅
Where did this Reddit user get information that pred owes hecz 100k plus. Idk if I believe that I don’t think hecz would give him 100k first off unless it was in his salary. What’s most likely happened is he was betting on his own matches. They wouldn’t have removed him the way they did if there wasn’t a legal battle going. Companies do this all the time. They “suspend” people until proven innocent so they don’t get caught in the mess. Dudes salary is over 100k and he just won champs he can afford to buy a 40k Gucci item, idk about the 100k but I feel like that’s bs. No way hecz loans him 100k
That’s what I’m saying, i can’t trust people I’ve never heard of coming out and saying they know all this info about Pred. Like if they did I feel like they would’ve said something already
LOL this guy says: if you are out there spreading drama/propaganda, trying to affect other people with this, just take a step back and wait for answers. Just remember, what you say online can really affect them. MEANWHILE he is SPREADING those rumors on youtube💀💀💀
@ i know you told at the start of this video that you shouldn't believe everything on the internet, but you ARE spreading rumors. You're not spreading facts/confirmed reason. it's rumors for now haha. It's just funny to me
@ it’s just reporting what’s happening (especially being as everyone already knows the rumors) - I just wanted to use my small platform to tell people to be respectful. I do see what you’re saying tho lol
Lmk your thoughts on the situation. KEEP IT RESPECTFUL!
The craziest part is that it’s such a human thing to fall into. Doesn’t matter the addiction, Pred deserves to heal.
Fr man 🙏
Amen to that
If it’s THIS bad man needs help and we need to rally around him instead of alienate him. We gotta take care of the boys, nobody is perfect man, we all struggle with something.
This one hurts Jake like we come of a champs win and already not even a month in to the new season something happened ignoring the rumors I wish the best for Pred hopefully he can comeback guy is a monster on the game.
I feel really bad for the greenwall ngl
My thoughts are that it has to be something pretty bad. Within 24 hours, OpTic makes a team change, all their social media accounts unfollow him, and people in the scene not debunking the “gambling” allegations and just telling people not to speculate or post screenshots of dms, I think there’s truth to those allegations. Now who knows the 100% truth, except H3CZ and Pred. But if it were just a big gambling problem, I don’t think H3CZ and OpTic would cut ties with him. I believe they would ask him to step away from the scene for a bit try to get him help. This seems like something deeper and worse than just a gambling problem.
It's more than just a gambling problem because he's gambling other peoples money and not paying them back. When you start lying about shit to feed your addiction, that's where it becomes a big problem.
@@iZaners Its defo gambling, enough proof and the reason they dropped him etc because now games could be investigated as he could have been throwing games purposely to win bets etc, which is all illegal and could cause issues for optic. Either way it needs to get addressed asap.
Yeah the speed at which this seems to be happening is the off putting part
@@piovo1It wouldn't cause problems for the organisation at all.
@@martinp485 if it comes out that Pred is gambling other peoples money and/or betting on league matches, it 100% WOULD cause problems for OpTic, not only publicly but maybe legally, depending on if/what they knew was happening.
Pred was so clear it was his dream to be on optic 😢. He gets on optic, hes living out his literal dream wins champs his first year on optic and now it could be all gone. Not defending whatever he has done, its just a heartbreaking story for this to go down.
Can't take away that he did it though
@@nathanh2725Ofcourse but people do shitty things when addictions come into play. People don’t understand nearly how serious gambling addictions are and how high the suicide rate is for gambling addicts. The shit drains every aspect of your life away if you don’t get the help you need.
He's only Aussie where every second person here has a gambling addiction or has severely
@@Repent777now44-s sounds like yall need God
@@Repent777now44-sReal stat?
I feel bad for Ant and Pred man, you can tell they really had fun playing together. Ant is just so innocent and you know he doesn’t really understand at all what his friends are going through and just wants to game and win with his boys
You hit it spot on Shotzzy is such a good guy and now something has happened tl his teammates twice where they had to leave the game
Pred likely betting on OpTic matches
He’s fucked if that’s true. That’s potentially lifetime ban playing in the league and maybe criminal charges
Yeah that's probably why the league forced OpTic to drop him. Very sad
Hopefully not
@JMaverik I agree
Betting on that under on snd for sure. Makes so much since
Appreciate the news
Thank you!
As much as I think Huke will be good. AG is the energy for this team, he helped Ant get out of his shell, and become an overall better player. I just hope this doesn't lead to him getting full dropped next off season
I completely agree with that. Them to screaming on main stage is a movie!! I’m gonna miss that this season. Hoping Pred comes back next season man.
I like pred. The energy he brings. The love for the org. Great teammate. I loved that he got his dream.
Buuuut, i also love Huke as a player and person. This team could actually be a problem with those two flying around. Game was made for huke and shotzzy type of style.
Hope pred is ok, we all make mistakes. As long as its not some diddy stuff, i think hell come back eventually if the league lets him
Unless he got caught cheating. Then he needs to wait as long as Envoy did for Keying
@@aarongarcia2911it has nothing to do with cheating lmao…
@booky8148 is it because of you booky?
This is so gutting as an optic fan. Was a big fan of Pred. He’s so young and he is a human being he makes mistakes like the rest of us. Whatever the truth may be I just hope he can bounce back not just so he can come play but for his own personal life and future. Prayers for AG. 💚
This has to be the gambling rumor then. I don't know how losing a love one, having a kid, or someone is sick and it ends up like this. Illey had an addiction. Pred has an addiction. We may not know the full truth ever, but once an OpTic member, always an OpTic member. Prayers for both! Glad to see Illey back in the game. Hope to see Pred one day rebound from this. Oof
@@workhardt8080he’s not going to be in any legal trouble. Just in trouble with cdl. You see athletes getting suspended in sports every year for gambling on their sports and don’t get in trouble with the law. What would make anyone think there is anything illegal about what he did lmao
@@switchmaster5860 Gambling on your own sport vs gambling on your own matches are 2 very different things, one has the implication of match fixing (illegal) and the other does not.
But again we dont know any exact details atm, I did not say its likely he ends up in legal trouble just that its possible. Either way my entire point was just that if he bet on his own matches his COD career is over, so I hope he didn't mess around with that.
@@switchmaster5860 betting on yourself and your team in a team sport is def against the law, the ppl u see getting suspended for gambling are gambling on other teams. And also gambling from the team facilities.
@@switchmaster5860because none of the athletes bet on their own team… this is a huge difference.. kinda how they won major 3 then placed 12th at major 4 and pred was laying down in random spots and not playing like normal, then turn around and win champs ? I mean it was kinda obvious cus kenny and pred were arguing about his gameplay. it all makes sense, so it’s not far off if it is
@ Lmfaoo yes they did. Dude from the falcons did. Like I said no law was broken buddy I promise you
THIS THIS IS HOW YOU REPRT ON NEWS.. nice job
Thank you 🙌
@ first thing I noticed form other reports was they’re like reporting these things as if there real info lol. I can’t stand that to me it shows you have no respect for the players and are just repeating for the check that TH-cam gives.
@@TempEditscough cough tac rab..
5:04 exactly. very well said!
I fully agree that Optic does have to say something, at least eventually and hopefully soon. It might be making things worse that they’re just letting the community sit and theory craft.
I never comment on videos but you blew my mind with info around twitter like twice. Earned a well deserved sub!
Thanks! I didn’t really do much but show things I saw on Twitter 😂
Huke and shotzzy were frying faze
they just played there first match together. won 3-1 against seattle. they looked great!
@@booky8148vancouver*
Then Huke sells on lan
Hmm. Even Rab didn’t have that info about optic unfollowing. If that is true then they’re trying to disconnect from pred which means the worst. Shitty situation man. He went from grinding in AUS to being on the best team in the world in 2-3 years. More money than he has ever seen in his life. Clearly likes to party and shit. That’s too bad
Rab might’ve made his video before the Twitter follow stuff dropped
W Jake for talking about him being another person. A lot of people need to realize that.
4:45 not soft. Sad that it has to be said, but love to see it. Great videos!
Thank you!
“Also preds a gooner” 😂😂
That was a wild message 😂
Only thing I can think of is he bet on the cod matches or told someone too I can’t think of a reason why he was kicked so fast with out a word
I think a cardinal rule had to be broken for this to move so rapidly.
Yeah the speed at which this happened is kinda nuts
Kid Is Young People Make Mistakes. He Deserves what coming Next To Him But I Hope He Can Land Back On His Feet 💚
Did he blow all his money on booze?
No way Hecz would let someone get into such a big debt to him, especially his own players! Hecz love the people in Optic way too much and is known for giving out a helping hand to people
I've been an OpTic fan since cod4. It sucks to see what the org has become. I'm happy OpTic has grown, but like Amazon, it's grown too big for its own good. If this is true, I'm not surprised gambling has affected this young man. Note, cod is a virtual casino, and 2: gambling can become an addiction. Play at your own risk because the dealer does not care about you.
Gambling is hella dangerous you’re right
I think that If someone were scammed or had their money taken by Pred for the purposes of gambling then they are fully allowed to voice their opinions and experience
This is a deeper issue than most realize. The league roster lock is mondays. The only way you can have huke joining like he did is in league approved emergencies which “this guy has a gambling problem” wouldn’t fit. He had to be betting on his own matches or taking money from others and lying. It’s sad because he seems like such a nice dude and was vital to Optics repeat chances. Hope I’m wrong but I fear the pepperoni doesn’t miss
I hope it’s not that man ☹️
No offense but youd have to be smoking hard drugs probably injecting at that point to think the leauge isnt gonna approve Huke to Optic. They would get 6 viewers? way to much money involved for petty stuff like that to be happening cuz you know Hecz would just compete with the league at that point and probably win because Optic is bigger than competitive CoD itself.
Please explain “the pepperoni doesn’t miss”? 😂
@@ItzWavyBrazy well I'm the pepperoni and I don't miss even when I wish I could
@@dentdon19 wait, so you’re a grown ass man that calls yourself pepperoni? 😂😂😂😂
Idc what anyone says Pred doesn’t owe anyone an explanation, especially fans. Hope he just gets healthy no matter what it is.
I agree, I don’t think anyone needs to say what happened. I do think OpTic should say if he’s still affiliated with them or not at some point in the next few weeks or so
I'm Def glad they got Huke the chemistry is already there so hopefully they can do good. OpTic unfollowing Pred Def ain't a good look tho but spreading rumors and the screenshots is wild I hope everyone is okay. Thanks for being reasonable and helping out the community
OpTic doesn't have to say anything. Do we not remember the Surge dropping Illey and over a year later we still have no official response to why.
OpTic and OpTic Texas Twitter have in fact both unfollowed Pred on Twitter, which is insane.. clearly there’s something more to this, I mean Pred has not said a word or streamed in 2 days, so clearly something went down.
Reminds me of Shazam drama a few years back
Hope the best for Pred, but Huke is definitely looking like one the the best players in BO6....
I think it’s more serious to remove Pred on X and take his verification Badge maybe a fist fight drinking altercation with teammate possible but that’s just speculation.
So much speculation going around lol
They definitely owe an explanation, pred has fans and those fans bought his merch.
Pred is probably bench for huke (yes i know he doesn't have OpTic logo anyway but he still on OpTic Texas team list if you look at OpTic Gaming website, breakingpoint website, or the Call of duty league website so it's not over for pred)
I hope pred isn’t dropped as he’s become one of my favourite players we’ve ever had. Hope it’s a temporary thing. Definitely a wake up call to pred if those rumours are true. Hope all is well and wishing the best for whatever is happening rn. Optic will definitely miss pred in the long run no offence to huke but
Nah offense is given as it should be unfortanetly the person we are all dissapointed in if the rumors are true is Pred
So I’m not the only one thinking Pred was betting against OpTic and himself in major 4…
I really hope not
Thank you for this video
take a shot every time this kid says "at the end of the day"
Ngl, I LOVE saying that 😂
30,000 views Jake, Congrats
Conflicted with this whole situation on the one hand, I'm happy Huke is back in the league doing his thing, but I don't want to see him being the scapegoat again, just like he has been multiple times for good reasons (not performing on lan consistently) will always defend my goat though. on the other hand however, it is sad to see Pred's downfall happen like this. I'm not trying to speculate, but I don't think it's family issues, at least because he would come out and say that if it was so, it probably is something bigger. At the end of the day, though, I am happy that Huke is back on a team and hope to see him fry his old team since this COD seems to be more of his play style.
It's more severe than gambling.
I hope not man 😔
My guess is he racked up a debt with people you shouldn’t rack up debt with and whoever those people are might have physically approached him or threatened it and also maybe pressed the optic org for it too. That’s my guess
Hopefully not
There's no fckin WAY Hecz would give him 6 figures for gambling money... He would tell him to stop and/or get him help. Hope he is alright regardless
Coulda asked him to borrow for debt then spent it gambling
Nah if someone in the public eye is borrowing money from me, and not paying it back, and publicly making as much as pred makes? I’m putting him on blast publicly. I may warn him before hand but I’m putting him on blast. Idc abt his career that’s messed up
If he does be owing people money I understand them posting about it, but there was also plenty that just started firing away online that aren’t claiming he owed them
@ of course. But he’s a public figure, he should have known he’d be exposed for fucking ppl over. Yeah the people that have nothing to do with it are weird, but that’s what happens when you’re sort of famous.
It’s obvious what’s going on ofc Ben Zoomaa will be defensive about it considering what they push
Huke’s mistake cost them champs on MW2 I wouldn’t have him back if he was a free agent!
Dif year dif game, but he did mess up big time a couple years ago lol
OpTic can't catch a break with their rosters, and it genuinely sucks they get Pred win Major 3 and finally win champs after 7 years. No changes needed for a team that was trying to go B2B and just after the first week of qualifiers, this happens. You could not make this up, honestly. Wishing the best for AG for whatever is happening behind the scenes, and he gets better and is able to make a comeback if that is possible. As an OpTic fan though, I have to write this year off nothing against Huke. I'm sure he'll fry, but I don't think they go B2B or even win a major this year, not gonna lie. They'll still compete for sure but I don't think they find the success they had in MW3 this season.
I agree that nothing is confirmed but where there is smoke there is fire. Also I think orgs and players need to be more transparent with the fans. The fans are the reason that their career is possible and just keeping stuff behind the scenes and not letting the fans know wtf is going on will not be viable for the long term of esports.
It pisses me off man. I want a healthy pred ❤
As a fellow Australian and a 23 year old who has dealt with gambling issues when I was a little younger this shit just makes me sad I hope bro is okay even if he done wrong
Pred was a good member and a great player will be missed
Hopefully whatever it is gets sorted and he comes back 🙏
Optic doesn't have to say anything. We just watched Surge and Illey last year never actually confirm or say why he was removed
Yeah good point - crappy situation man 😔
Pot heads be thinking "i got this under control" i.e. Ghosty
Love me some Dan Ghosty
Pred is perfect for Kick!
Oh lord 😂
People are gonna say some crazy things. As a society where drama is king, people say the craziest things.
So while there might be some truth to somethings out there and where there’s smoke there’s fire, I’ll wait until we hear from Pred about the situation.
I hope the best for Pred and that if he does need help he gets that help and comes back stronger and better than ever.
Love this outta you 🤝🙌
If it was the gambling and debt thing, it would’ve been aired out way sooner he wasn’t paying up. It has to be something worse or something that would jeopardize the org itself
It has been around the scene, the name hasn't come up specifically but people have narrowed it down to him. Rab made a video about a pro not paying for $8's a while ago
And I'm not saying it is this. Im just saying it has been rumored for a while
Exactly this is more then gambling 🎰 hope he gets the help he needs tho 😞
Gambling/debt is bad enough if true, hopefully it’s not worse
Saw that my photo was used as thumbnail so I had to click 😀
Oh shit shoutout to you! I just looked up OpTic Texas champs on Google and grabbed one of the top results 😂
Roger also doesn’t have an affiliate check either so what now lol
He's ozzy so gambling will probably be true 😂 the ozzy way 😂
A lot of Australians been commenting this lol
Match fixing allegations when they're 1-1 and it was the whole team kinda falling short that cost the first series is crazy to me. I'm not going to speculate on what it IS, but I'm almost sure Match fixing when you're the reigning world champ who placed top 4 at EWC and 2nd at Kaysan's Lan isn't the problem. I hope that whatever it is, Pred and anyone involved with the issue are ok. There is more to life than CoD or any video game, regardless of how much I love watching the eSport. It feels like all these people with absolutely 0 involvement suddenly know everything about the situation and lost all sense of empathy.
They're not saying he fixed this year, they're saying he fixed last year
@@Editss213 When they won Major 3 and Champs? If it come out that Pred sabotaged their Major 4 for gambling I guess, but it seems so unbelievable to say any of their season was rigged for gambling.
@CastleWR21 go back and watch Major 4 and rethink your stance. why would he stay proned on top AC when he had an easy opportunity to push back spawns?
@ You’re referencing a singular play from all the maps and modes played in Major 4 like that proves he threw the whole split? And I honestly don’t know what you referencing, could you be more specific to what series this is?
@CastleWR21 I said watch the major, didn't I?
The fact that optic actually did unfollow Pred is deep…whatever the real story is behind closed doors, the unfollow is very worrying. If this was a “temporary” thing where they were giving him some time off to deal with some personal issues whether it be a gambling addiction etc, then surely they wouldn’t have unfollowed him? They would show him support and love and give him the time and wait for him to come back right?, But the unfollow? I u follow my Ex when we brake up bro..the u follow means there’s some anger or bad vibes in the background.
We’ll see what happens I guess, hoping the best
they are gonna go the surge with illey route
optic wont say shit about whats going on because its a personal matter. its gonna have to come from pred or the league if the league is involved or it has something to do with the league. if it doesnt then they ant saying shit either so its gonna have to come from pred when hes ready
Sad situation, partially put it on the league and Org they could've gave us any reason and the situation would be left alone instead they leave it to us to guess
This is so depressing. RIP optic season they getting cooked now!
I'm more surprised this hasn't happened more often. Gambling is so commercialized/mainstream that it's stained sports/esports. Anyone who's done it can attest how addicting and poison it is, not a laughing matter if he's that much in debt.
He 100% should be banned permanently to set a precedent unfortunately, just like how IBUYPOWER got made an example of in CSGO. Just a sad story though cause now everyone is going to go pull up a ton of clips and moments where he was playing so sus costing Optic/Surge a ton of games.
Gambling is a serious issue nowadays, hopefully it’s not as bad as everything we’ve been seeing online 🙏
Let’s go Knicks!
if it is a gambling problem hopefully he gets some help man 😢
Optic fans are matinaining more composure in this situation than I would be. I guess they have some kind of faith in Huke. Imo we just dropped to a 2 team league.
I don’t have faith in Huke at all. No way we are beating LAT and maybe not even Faze.. Huke is great against crap teams yes, but on LAN against the top teams, he just doesn’t show up majority of the time.
I have no doubt about it we can get top 3 or maybe even 2nd on a good weekend. But I can’t see Optic beating LAT on their worst day. Gonna have to hope Pred can come back somehow, or need to make a big trade/signing next season. Maybe simp. Not to many other options.
Dude I have followed your Twitter for a while and just discovered you have a TH-cam channel. Good content, but I have a polite suggestion that it's okay to speak calmly. I usually put on cod news with my coffee or lunch at work but your video started giving me stress because of the panicky tone 😅
Haha I hear you, I talk pretty fast 😂 I apologize
He's just a kid too at the end of the day. I hope he hasn't gotten in trouble gambling. That's terrible if it's true.
Facts he’s in his early twenties, at least if there is something going on he’s young and can get help or figure it out
Every second person in Aus has a gambling problem
I apologize in advance for the long comment 😂I have a lot of experience in Addiction this is Text Book gamble addiction behavior. Also the Pro community is so small that this was pretty well known, and I remember a few CoD titles back it was kind of a running joke that Pred would pay up when ever he was playing pro-8s.
Also with Optic unfollowing him seems a very weird thing to do, because in comparison If anyone remembers optic Maniac he had some struggles with addiction and Optic was very supportive through the entire process (no pun intended)
Now if the screen shots are real they reminded me of the streamer sliker, if anyone remembers that story, a ton of screen shots leaked of sliker almost verbatim to what Pred was DM’ing people. and sliker was even hitting fans up for money that’s how severe his Gambling Addiction
If it’s all true hopefully he gets the support he needs
Definitely was betting. Reasoning behind drop is definitely because he bet on their own match. Odds were juice vs Boston this week. If it’s true he’s a bit of a degen gambler and owes some people. I can see that as a quick come up for him. Sad to see. Gambling, pills, and alcohol be careful people
Hoping for the best 🙌
Yo what's up JAKE. When the time is right IMO pred will talk about the situation... He's human people do make bad choices...
We’re all humans ❤️
I think the most likely answer is that he was betting on his own matches and once they lost to Boston opening match it started to come out. He most likely bet a lot of money on that match.
I hope not man
If he’s betting on his own matches that he will lose but his kill death hill time and play style don’t change then I don’t get how it’s possible especially with 3 of his teammates trying hard to win. I believe he did I just don’t get how he did
@@jayw3766 No I’m sure he bet that his team would win
@@user-ch8il6og4fI don’t find anything wrong with that lol. I’m sure so many people bet on them winning. Betting on losing and unders is a different situation. Throwing games purposely is sad. I doubt he did that tho. I bet in preds overs every game and majority of the time they always hit.
Well pred is done and probably want be back this is more serious then gambling and debt but I hope he gets the help he needs and gets back to playing cod and winning a chip for optic again go greenwall and the boys will do great with huke 🤝
This is also what happens to havoc
Really?
@ do u not remember he just got droped without explanation
Dude was scamming the community in dm's. No way Hecz can let that fly. Optic is the community.
Hopefully we’ll see how much of the rumors are true or false
Hot take - if Huke keeps playing the way he’s been playin optic might be better now
It’s possible fs
The fact Optic have unfollowed him isn't good. But I'd be more worried that Kenny, Dashy and Shottzy have unfollowed him. Seems very unlikely he'll be back imo
Did they unfollow him too ?
@@JMaverikno they still all follow him.
27K views Jakey to the moon
What if he’s is The Diddy list
😐😐
I am pretty sure he was betting on matches but thru a bookie, then he was using that money he was winning and bet it on sports and lost big, refused to pay his bookie, his bookie then snitched on him to a teammate or the League and then that is how he got caught... I am pretty sure Pred isnt the only CDL player that bets on the matches.. He is just the only one that has been caught so far. He was streaming just 12 hours prior to getting dropped and was playing 8s with Shotzzy.. I am assuming he lost a ton of money on the Mavs ML losing or he bet over on Luka and that lost.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read.. this is all just speculation and some made up bullshit in your head lmao. Betting on games? Betting on the Mavs? Having a bookie? Betting on Luka Donic?. Are you okay my man? Lol. Stop making shit up. You don’t know what really happened, so simply close your mouth and wait for the “real” info like everyone else. No need to spread false information like this kid.
The problem is everyone thinks they “know” what he did and all these rumors do more harm than good
OpTic didnt say anything about Illey and Hecz tends ti want to avoid drama so I'm not sure OpTic will say anything tbh
Illey wasn’t even on optic when those rumors occurred lol.
ILLeY was on surge when there were rumors last year - when he was on OpTic it was just a hand injury issue
The big thing here is the refusal of Optic and creators and Pred himself to comment. With the gambling rumor spiraling out of control if there wasn’t atleast some truth to it then someone would have went and said something.
It’s a slippery slope. Saying something sucks and not saying something sucks. They prob don’t know what the right thing to to is tbh
Oh my god imagine if he bet on Boston to beat them last weekend 😂😂
I hope not 😅
OpTic are going to act like Pred never existed and that's messed up.
You don't know how the support system there is
Everyone on optic still follows him
You know hecz wouldn’t do that. They most likely are doing whatever they can to help him
If its true he owes 6 figures... thats messed up.
Id cut ties immediately. No sense in enabling him further.
We’ll see, gotta let it play out before jumping to conclusions or pointing fingers
I love my boy pred but claiming to be a Muslim and having a gambling addiction is highly haram… I pray he gets through whatever hard times hes going through
🙏🙏
Go Knicks 🧡
GO NY GO NY GO
If he purposely hit his unders last week so someone could cash I wouldn't be surprised. Easy enough to pull off in SnD. wonder how long till someone gets caught red handed doing it
Really hope that’s not it
Clearly Huke was frying Pred in 8’s, AG gets cocky, challs Cuylar to a 1v1, Huke says for your spot in the roster”” Pred says fuck yeah”” if yih win you can take my starting position in the OpTic roster”” Huke proceeds to smoke him bad, and now we have a new Submachine player on the team… trust me this is factually how this happened.💯✅💯 😅
I hope that’s how it went down 😂
@ most definitely 💯 I have a forensic mind like that ✅😁
Well 100k and 6 figures are the same thing and 80k+ is pretty much 100k so actually they’re all saying very similar things bro
It’s little things you gotta look out for online tho. When stories don’t always add up sometimes someone is lying
All signs are pointing towards the rumors being true and Pred might not comeback back.
😢😢
4:29 W Jake
Where did this Reddit user get information that pred owes hecz 100k plus. Idk if I believe that I don’t think hecz would give him 100k first off unless it was in his salary. What’s most likely happened is he was betting on his own matches. They wouldn’t have removed him the way they did if there wasn’t a legal battle going. Companies do this all the time. They “suspend” people until proven innocent so they don’t get caught in the mess. Dudes salary is over 100k and he just won champs he can afford to buy a 40k Gucci item, idk about the 100k but I feel like that’s bs. No way hecz loans him 100k
That’s what I’m saying, i can’t trust people I’ve never heard of coming out and saying they know all this info about Pred. Like if they did I feel like they would’ve said something already
Hecz still follows him, so idk 🤷♂️
Still odd the official team pages unfollowed
LOL this guy says: if you are out there spreading drama/propaganda, trying to affect other people with this, just take a step back and wait for answers. Just remember, what you say online can really affect them.
MEANWHILE he is SPREADING those rumors on youtube💀💀💀
I’m not spreading rumors, I’m telling people to not blindly believe them. There’s a MASSIVE difference
@ i know you told at the start of this video that you shouldn't believe everything on the internet, but you ARE spreading rumors. You're not spreading facts/confirmed reason. it's rumors for now haha. It's just funny to me
@ it’s just reporting what’s happening (especially being as everyone already knows the rumors) - I just wanted to use my small platform to tell people to be respectful. I do see what you’re saying tho lol
@@JMaverik all gooood i enjoyed the video though :)
@ I appreciate it thank you 🙏