"The sport itself won." I completely agree with this sentiment. I've been waiting for this fight for years and am so happy we finally got to see it. This is such a great time to be a boxing fan. It's never been easier to watch the fights, and to follow all of the fighters. Regardless of how I feel about the scoring of this bout at least I got to see a wonderful match that lived up to the hype.
@@GrubKiller436 This is the absolute maximum. Bivol won in no universe and should not get a win. Floyd Mayweather Jr's students like Fury and Bivol are getting exposed left right and center, Tank is the last big one left.
I'm a heavy Beterbiev fan coming into this fight. I still am, but now I also a Bivol fan. What a great performance from two top athletes. No BS no drama, just fight. Can't wait for the rematch.
@@dinowasd7632yeah Bivol was on autopilot in the last three rounds…I thought they were still gonna give it to him since his promoter was the one putting on the show
According to Closter, Beterbiev won rounds 4-6, 11 and 12, and rounds 7, 8 and 10 are swing rounds. So technically 116-112 is possible with his logic if you give all of the swing rounds to beterbiev.
Personally I had Bivol up by 2 rounds. From what I saw, Bivol outboxed for most if the rounds. However, Beterbiev turned up the heat in the final rounds. IMO it was ao close that it could have got either way but I think Bivol won it. The 116-112 call was ridiculous but not much can be done. Overall a super tense fight with a rather disappointing ending for me but I'm m so down to see a rematch!
Edit- the guys under me commenting cant even read my comment thats how braindead they are. Can you cut the bs and just admit this was kadirov flexing on the boxing world by letting us know he can do what ever he wants. He payed em all lmao thats why when artur wasnt smiling and mark ramsey a very good coach imo looked like he was disappointed and ready to take the defeat…. Thats when kadirov came to the ring grabbed artur like his child and laughed whispering something like “we won dont worry” its always been like this dont get me wrong beterbiev is a monster but even he realized bivol is absolutely the best fighter right now or even ever id say in light heavyweight since roy jones Also if you watch kadirovs sons they are fight fans they love ufc and boxing so when they fight a event set up by kadirov the whole event is funny asf his son fights in 6 ounce gloves while his opponent fights with 16 rigged asf 😭😭😂 these chechens are the definition of bullys lmao
Bivol only landed 4 more punches than beterbiev, and beterbiev punches were way more effective and they didn’t count the amount of punches that hit bivol gloves and was going through the gloves
@@dontrah1838 then how you score lol, boxing is scored by damage and bivol did 0 damage lol and berly outlanded beterbiev by 4 punches so can’t use the punches excuse, bivol was getting bullied
Beterbiev has bricks for hands, and then his head/chin is a brick too. The optics definitely favored Artur Beterbiev. Props to Bivol for being the 1st and thus far the only non-stoppage loss on Beterbiev’s perfect record. Artur Beterbiev is now at least Top-4 Pound-for-Pound.
What's crazy is most of the damage Bivol sustained was caused, as he explained, by his own gloves hitting his face when Beterbiev was landing. That's power
@@phazonclash exactly even bivol is admitting to the power and difficulty also bivol said he needs time to heal from the fight for rematch and people saying bivol dominate are just bias
I think what people dont understand is that Bivol made a bunch of decisions at the end of rounds that judges hate and in a close fight, that matters a lot. Floyd was incredible at doing things judges love, doesnt mean he was not awesome he was just smart. And the mistake bivol made was clinching to close out rounds, starting ineffective trades near the end of rounds and getting rocked and pushed around the ring. Judges care about that stuff
Finally someone who seen what I seen. People trying to credit Bivol with a lot of close round where he tried to steal by throwing wild missed or blocked combos at the last 15 seconds of the rounds.
@@dion4670 uuhhh what? Every judge is like that? Humans have their biases. If im judging a fight im going to be looking for effective damage and who is imposing their will or in other words doing what they want to do. Those things are in the back of my head in addition to the boxing scoring criteria. Another judge may value strong endings to rounds and ring generalship or punches landed or showmanship. I scored the fight for Beterbiev 7-5 because i felt like he was doing what he wanted to do more throughout the fight. But i completely understand people who say Bivol won or people who say it was a draw. But a robbery? Maybe the fight was won by a round by either guy but but now a blowout
Nawh beterbiev will win the rematch easily bivol knows he got robbed so that will cause discourage and he won't be as confident cuz now he's at a disadvantage beterbiev wins the next fight easily but bivol won this fight he got robbed and that will mentally hurt bivol I don't care to see a rematch
@@dontrah1838or it could motivate him more to win and he ends up winning Bivol doesn’t seem like someone to just be discouraged because of this loss I think he’s definitely going to work his ass off
@@jomensan981 i disagree I think it's over for bivol he knows if he doesn't ko beterbiev he will lose the fight to fraud judges so what does it even matter boxing is a joke
tough break for bivol. he sticked and moved for 36 minutes which is no easy task against a heavy hitter like beterbiev. Bivol definitely cruised the last 3 rounds which costed him the match unfortunately. hope we get a rematch because it was definitely a fun boxing match
He ran, looking at his faces says everything Artur one knee out of his prime almost broke bibol eye orbital bone punching him and bivol blocking casing damage witrh his own hands 🤣 thanks good he didn't catch him clean or he could have die. Artur clearly won, only Christian people who happens to hate muslims says bivol won 🤣🤣
@@MartialArtsNkthere we are the fanboy that can't have a normal argument but have to bring out nicknames and dumb shit. You are the ruin of the sport for the one who are simply trying to enjoy it
General consensus seems to be that it was a close fight either way, maybe even a draw.....but that judge that scored it 116-112 was smoking angel dust.
They say that to motivate their fighter, if you listen to corners they say those things often. You reckon Garcia for instance in Joshua usyk 2 actually thought Joshua won the first three rounds? No, he says so to make Joshua motivated and not to despair. A coach knows his boxer and they motivate them differently.
And whats wrong with that? Beterbiev won all his fights by knockout, he and his team wanted this time also knockout like in the last fight, like always.
man that's the most stupid and brainless argument on why you think a fighter was robbed. "even their own corner thought he lost" no sherlock, the trainer himself said, we wanted to leave no doubts about a win and tried to encourage artur to knock him out.
I thought BIvol won by one round but I can understand a Draw or a 115-113 for Beterbiev. Regardless it was a close, competitive, high level match us hardcore fans could appreciate. I hope they run it back!
One thing I noticed when I rewatched the fight is how biased the entire broadcast is in favor of Bivol. The commentators sugar coats every little thing Bivol does even though you can see Beterbiev is winning the round. Even the replays in between rounds shows Bivol's highlights most of the time even in those Beterbiev rounds! Lol. That's not enough, DAZN's post fight highlights is literally a Bivol highlights! I think this is why a lot of casuals thought that Bivol won the fight.
I also noticed that, to the point I wondered if they were watching the same fight I was. Confirmation bias? I definitely thought Beterbiev was doing way better than they did, and his partially blocked shots had a definite effect, as evident from the way the fighters looked at the end of the fight.
They said that after he lost the 8th and 9th, then Artur went out and battered Bivol for 3 straight rounds. Clearly the sense of urgency worked to motivate their fighter
@@MechAdv They said that after the 10th round. They said it when there were two rounds left. Artur Beterbiev had a close round 10 that could have gone either way. Other than that, Beterbiev lost rounds 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9.
@@GrubKiller436 I had 7 and 8 as swing rounds, 10 for Beterbiev. So being extremely generous to Bivol and giving him both like you did, I could agree with a draw. I’m honestly shocked at the controversy on this decision. 115-113 Beterbiev was the right score imo.
The three judges were an American Glenn Feldman, a Spaniard Manuel Oliver Palomo and a Polish Pawel Kardyni. The referee in charge of the fight was an American. The American Glenn Feldman scored it 114-114, the Spaniard Manuel Oliver Palomo scored it 115-113 in favor of Bivol, and the Polish Pawel Kardyni scored it 116-112. The idea that the referee was a Muslim shows ignorance. I was the one who stayed up from the first fight until almost 5am so I know. Neither Bivol's team nor he blamed the judges.
@@jakedasnake1704 He didn't complain and make excuses because he has none left, what's he gonna complain about? He ducked Beterbiev for 7 years straight, waited till Beterbiev was 39 with a literal bum knee. What's he gonna say? The old man near retirement paid the judges?
@ippothedestroyer why is it not a good score? The only extra round he gave to beterbiev was round 4 that the other judges gave to bivol. You think there's a clear winner in round 4?
@@ippothedestroyer yes ofcourse 8 rounds to artur is possible, round 4 is a swing round. You can give that to artur. The rest of the rounds pretty much fall in line with consensus and we have 116-112
10000% Turki is the highest ranking and most powerful man in the arena. It couldn’t have been rigged without him. Why would Turki say he didn’t agree with the judges if it was rigged?
Watch the corners from the moment the fight ended. Bivols corner were comforting him but happy as if the knew they had done enough for a close win. Bertebiev corner was somber as soon as he arrived in their corner, and comforting him. Mood remained the same up to a specific moment, then they were smiling and jumping before he even got the results. Therefore, i can believe what Eddie said there about word getting around before the scores being read
For the judge that scored it 116-112, I don’t get fussed about 1 bad score card. That’s why they have three judges. I had it 114-114. And I thought I was being generous to Bivol.
There were many close rounds. 7-5 and 8-4 are similar decisions seperated by only one round and it does not matter at the end. Two judges ruled it a Beterbiev win.
@@zatoichiable following someone around the ring doesn't make you the aggressor the aggressor is the one who initiated the fight which bivol was doing for most of the fight, beterbievs momentum came from bivol initiating the combat
Beterbiev's relentless pressure and powerful body shots were a decisive factor in his victory over Bivol. Despite Bivol's impressive defensive skills, Beterbiev's superior physicality and aggression ultimately wore him down. While the scoring was close, experts like Teddy Atlas, Gareth A Davies, and Spencer Oliver agreed that Beterbiev's dominance was evident throughout the fight.
@@marcusaurelius5149 Yep those partially blocked shots definitely had an effect. The clearly biased broadcast also affected people's perception. It seemed they weren't watching the same fight I was. The 10-9 and 1 point per knockdown default scoring does not reflect the action. I'd rather they call more rounds that are too closer to call even and more rounds in which one fighter is clearly dominant 10-8 or even wider, even if there are no knockdowns.
only after that have I found out that Beterbiev actually supports his regime and war in Ukraine. I lost all respect for him, hate when these people escape their land to live in the West, but support the people who make it worse.
Bivol won IMHO. Nobody would have questioned the scores if judges scored in favor of Bivol. But the judges had Beterbiev won, and we're all debating how wrong or right it was.
the fight was close going into the last 2 rounds and Bivol did absolutely nothing for those 2 rounds. Also you can’t blame the judges for counting power punches higher than jabs when they have close punch count in a round
Doesn't matter if you land clean at this weight. Look at Bivols face. Beterbiev clearly had the more effective aggression + dominated the centre of the ring.
@@FrankLucas-pw5hs it does matter. The logical way is to measure damage done per round and Bivol was doing more damage. You can't call punches hitting gloves and shoulders damage, the sting is taken off it even if the gloves are hitting your own eyes.
@@briantimlin2650are you retarded? the impact goes through the gloves, and even made him have a swollen hand too. if punches to the guard and arms dont count why should punches to the body? so stupid
Both fighters are a credit to the sport of boxing and admirable role models for young men. Far to many boxers/promoters will duck legitimate competition to keep the easy money flowing. Beterbiev and Bivol are 2 of my favorite boxers and I hope they both gained many new fans after this fight. Boxing won, the fans won. Perhaps we can ask judges to explain their decisions in the future so we can get better insight into why they scored fights a certain way.
I had Beterbiev winning 115-113 simply by him controlling and being the aggressor majority of the fight, when they did exchange beterbiev usually for the better of it
@@dirkdiggler2379he lost the last 3 actually. he easily won the 1st 2nd 3rd and 9th, with both winning/10-10 the 7th and/or 8th too, but no way can you give bivol the 10th rewatch it on turkis channel beterbiev controlled the first 2:10 got caught twice but he caught bivol way more over the course of the round
Being the aggresor means nothing. If that was the case, then being a defensive fighter would make no sense. Bivol outlanded him, landed the cleaner shots, was faster, showed more skill, and outboxed him the entire fight. I had it 116-112 for bivol.
That polish judge who scored the fight 117-112 needs to be investigated. I had 7-5 bivol with one round that was definitely a swing round. At least ruled a draw. However this fight was close not a robbery. That being said, yes, betebiev was the aggressor forcing bivol to fight on the back foot. But the majority of arturs punches were not clean. Most of the shots landed on bivols gloves and arms. Even at the end of round 10, on the broadcast you can hear arturs corner telling him he needed to knock bivol out so even they knew they were losing. Bivol BOXED beterbiev, he wasn't the aggressor because he couldn't be, you can't fight in the pocket with a power puncher like artur. Bivol would've got knocked out There needs to be a rematch.
@@reykarkoisa2621 fr people cry saying 115-113 beterbiev is robbery, bro literally if any of the rounds get switched u get that result the 116-112 was retarded tho
@@reykarkoisa2621what is there to add? Go rewatch the fight. Rounds were almost even but the last 3 definitely in Arthur's favor. Gassed out Bivol couldn't keep the offense. Fair judging
Was one of the most highly skilled matchups in boxing today and a fantastic fight from both but I felt like Bivol should've got the nod. Great fight either way Also a video on the Cameron/Whittaker controversy would be good. As a Cameron supporter, I'm still upset over it 😂
116-112 for Bivol would be utter bullshit. 116-112 in general is a stupid scorecard for a fight this close. This fight was close enough to be 7-5 for either man or 6-6 anything more is just biased bollocks.
i have it 115-113 for beterbiev, for me ring generalship counts and i feel bivol did not take enough risk and allowed artur to dictate the pace and move him around
Screwy decisions like this is why MMA is far superior. I watched this with my gf and was just telling her before the fight that the problem with boxing is that its corrupt, and to much politics. Told her that bad decisions happen way to often. Then immediately afterwards we get this wonky decision, making boxing look really bad. Bivol won the fight hands down. Outboxed him all night, landed more punches and landed the cleaner shots. Beterbiev looked slow, and lazy in comparison. Only thing he had going was more power. Even the announcers were saying in the last round that beterbiev needed a knockout to win.
I had Bivol 116-112, he landed the most efficient punches the entire fight and Arthur almost did not hurt him as Bivol dodged or blocked everything that was thrown at him. Even if you don’t agree on how I scored the fight, it is crystal clear that Bivol won that fight
@@Redefreiheit-c1m Even if he landed more, Bivol almost landed all the cleanest punches of the fight. He didn’t break his defense, Bivol’s defense was spectacular he dodged or blocked everything that was thrown at him. And have you ever heard of boxing on the outside ? That’s not being a chicken you casual
Excellent fight! The whole fight between Beterbiev and Bivol was held in a forceful manner. Both boxers were attentive to their opponent's punches, as they realized that missing one accentuated punch could lead to a knockout. Beterbiev after the first three rounds of the attempt to work on technique began to press, throwing out his powerful punches. However, he was unable to lock onto Bivol and knock him out as he had done with all of his previous opponents. Bivol was constantly shifting Biterbiev's aim, defending with his block and shifting from side to side, preventing him from landing a series of knockout punches. The center of the ring remained behind Biterbiev most of the time. In this fight we did not see the famous element of movement from the Soviet style of boxing - shuttle kick, performed by Dmitry Bivol. The use of the shuttle is suitable in amateur boxing, where 3 rounds, as well as in work with a boxer-player or slow-moving opponent. Bivol used the defense with a block and a trip takedown to the side. Countered Beterbiev with counter power work. We didn't see any spurts of concussive strikes from Beterbiev in this fight. We can discuss a lot about who won this fight. I will say that the fight was very competitive. Both opponents were strong both physically and technically. Nobody fell in the ring. We all saw this exciting fight. Beterbiev showed that he has the right to be the winner, and Bivol proved that he is unbeatable. Before the fight I gave 30% that Beterbiev would win by knockout and 70% that Bivol would win on points. The result of the fight surprised me - Beterbiev won a judges' decision for the first time in his professional career. I was also surprised by Bivol's hard power style of fighting, which started to take shape since his fight with Canelo Saul Alvarez. Bivol's feet became more stocky, minimal use of the shuttle. Dmitry Bivol proved himself in exchanging hard punches with Beterbiev. We saw the athletic power of the athletes. I think everyone will learn a lesson from this fight. Personally, I was once again convinced that cardio and physical endurance are an important component for a boxer. Recently I have added to my training the recommendations from the practical manual “400 Boxing Combinations” by Yuriy Ivantsiv. This manual contains training schemes, how to develop stamina, physical strength, to work out skills of close combat, middle and long distance fighting, to work out a knockout punch and a series of power punches in non-stop mode through practicing boxing combinations. Every time I finish practicing 10 rounds on the bag, I realize that these are the unforgettable sensations I was missing in the training process. As a result - my endurance has improved, during sparring I don't have a fleeting confusion about which series of punches to throw. I understand what blows my sparring partner is going to deliver, so I have time to defend and counterattack. After a month of training on the methodology “400 Boxing Combinations” I managed to diversify my combinatorial punching technique. Finally, I would like to recommend everyone to subscribe to this channel. It puts out useful content for all boxing fans! I wish you all success and good luck!
@@Chris-yg6loyeah 5 more shots that had less weight on them than beterbiev beterbiev was the ring general pushing the pace and constantly engaging For me it would be a crime to give it to bivol based of how he fought that was never a winning performance so at least give it to the guy trying to fight
@@AlphaAbyss_ bivol outlanded him in total punches, jabs, and had far better accuracy the entire night, was faster, and landed the cleaner shots and combinations. Only thing beterbiev landed more of was power shots, which beterbiev landed at 29 percent and bivol at 50 percent. From a pure boxing perspective. Bivol won hands down. Beterbiev spent more time hitting bivol gloves than anything.
@@cuckertarlson3037 shots in the gloves still count especially when you hit as hard as beterbiev standing there covering up can't be considered effective defense bivol was scared and ran around the ring for 12 rounds judges remember that and he didn't land many clean shots that were actually significant he to landed on the gloves alot people are forgetting that
Depending on the metrics used to score this fight, it really could've went either way but bivol did a great job at not allowing autur to turn up like he usually likes to, bivol boxing style is a power punchers worst nightmare, for sure would see the rematch if it happens
Honestly it was a tight decision but I think beterbiev took it, he threw a bunch of punches through bivol's guard that may have seemed to most of those watching as blocked but they actually landed. He was also piecing up bivol in the last 3 rounds after his movement slowed down. Bivol definitely put up a great fight tho.
@@gaw862bivol only landed 4 more total punches than beterbiev but beterbiev punches were more effective and the punches threw the gloves didn’t count but did impact bivol just look at his face and his body would tremble after getting hit and even blocking
Bivol’s faced was bruised because of guarding the punches artur made. With a heavy hitting opponent like beterbiev, bruises to the face are the least dmg you can take. The aggressor doesn’t always win specially if he can’t cut the opponent’s path and keeps getting hit with counter punches
Very tough fight to judge. Bivol may have landed more clean shots, but Beterbiev was definitely the aggressor, and his partially blocked blows had an effect, as is evident from the condition of Bivol's face. I also don't like the default 10-9 rounds when there aren't knockdowns. I'd like to see more rounds called even, and greater margins to better reflect the action, regardless of knockdowns.
Thought it was a draw but i thought they’d give it to bivol by 1 point, but can’t blame the judges beterbiev was aggressive pressuring going forward the whole time and ended the fight strong, a rematch is needed tho
Great fight from two warriors , it was a close fight, but Betterbiev was the one moving forward almost the whole fight , and that on boxing makes the difference.
I really thought beterbiev won and I honestly can’t see how people are giving it to bivol. Beterbiev was in control most of the fight hunted him down except for a few rounds. While beterbiev didn’t “land” he did damage by hitting his glove. And put the pressure. Bivol fought like he was trying to survive while beterbiev was was fighting to win. 116-112 is crazy tho. I thought it was was clear that beterbiev won tbh
When you face a pressure fighter like Bertie Beetle you have to fight a matador counter puncher style, you can't stand in the pocket and trade all night, that's just stupid.
Even the guys who think Artur won have to admit that he didn’t actually land punches. Bivol was landing clean all night and had impenetrable defence. He literally boxed perfectly. I give up.
@@emjay3066 these guys are too inbred from years or reproducing with cousins to have a cognitive understanding of how fights are scored... dont waste your time
@@emjay3066 my thoughts exactly. How can you score punches and say a guy is doing damage hitting gloves and shoulders? It's literally why blocks exist, to take the sting away and make punches mostly nullified. Where as Bivol landed clean beautiful hard shots multiple times in every round. Even Beterbiev said he was outclassed and thought he lost! Yes Bivol had bruising on his eyes because the power was still hurting by his own gloves hitting his own eyes, and that's why it was still a tight fight, but it was clear that Bivol was the one doing cleaner more damaging work in most of the rounds.
That's a fair take, Artur was definitely on the offensive and Bivol was on the defensive most of the fight, but I think many people thought Bivol's effective combos were enough to win by points, myself included.
I gave AB most of the latest rounds which is why my score was 116-112 for him. Bivol was merely fighting in spurts, perhaps 20 to 30 seconds per round while AB would put the pressure, corner him, threw combinations which moved him everywhere (just look at his face).
I knew beterbiev was going to win, he a unique puncher type that actually has the technical ability to win fights without the need to chase a knockout, the knockouts come to him.
I honestly like both fighters, and whichever way the fight might have gone would be fine with me, but I have to agree that the verdict was just criminal ☠☠
The Judges opinion factors into how a fight is scored. It wasn’t a robbery, your fighter didn’t win. This is boxing if you don’t like the decision, you don’t like boxing
L take, Your excusing piss poor judging because of opinions. Fights shouldn’t be scored on opinions that’s the same as scoring to emotional. Fights should be scored on facts, and the facts are beterbiev got outboxed. Points and eye test.
@@r.j-3861 yes but the rules are written to say the opinion of the judge scoring has influence. So like I said above your not right you just don’t like boxing
@@dominicgiglio-tos5982 because it’s in the rules, the judges subjective opinion affects the scoring of a fight. It’s a corrupt sport, with corruption written into the rules. I don’t care about any decision, stopped watching long ago because boxing is a bad sport and they will never change it because it makes money off dumb people
Regardless on who you think won, as no one will settle to an agreement, this fight was absolutely entertaining and insane! I was on the edge of my seat while watching this, and although I do believe that 116-112 scorecard was a bit criminal, I saw that fight going to either fighters. Bivol with the cleaner shots, while Beterbiev had the nonstop aggression near the end. I respect both fighters greatly, and the only thing I wish to say is what defines the winner of a fight by points? because I feel like situations like Isaac Cruz vs Tank Davis or Haney vs Loma reflect this same mentality of what shots matter and what aggression matters overall through the fight. I wish to see both fighters continue to be amazing!
Round 12 on rewatch I think Bivol won, Beterbiev was moving forward a lot and backing Bivol up but overwhelming majority of his punches were avoided or blocked. Bivol fighting on the backfoot made Beterbiev look like he was having a lot more success than was what actually happened. I think Beterbievs constant pressure won the judges over but Bivol out punched him throughout the fight.
This exactly. But i do agree Beterbiev hurt Bivol with a body shot. Bivol did got hit but not by a lot to win the fight. It just seemed like he hit bivol but the punches were blocked or evaded. Crazy. In exchanges, bivol got the most of it as he hits arthur while managed to evade arthur's punches.
@@FroggyyML When the fight ended and Beterbiev looked dejected I was surprised because it was a relatively close fight. But I think he knew how little he was actually landing.
@@mezivar5252agree, I just can’t believe it was round 10 and even Arturs corner said he needed a KO. Majority of the punches in those last rounds hit Bivols gloves, that’s what messed his face up the most his own gloves hitting his face. Just a testimony to Arturs power though.
I had similar thoughts around Bivol winning during the earlier rounds of the contest, by using his jab and combos, but I truly felt Beterbiev was stronger, appeared much more in control, and used his punching power more effectively to win the contest.
The stats are in, and it turns out Bivol only threw few more punches that actually hit the target. So, if you’re keeping score at home, that’s not exactly a knockout performance! And let’s not forget, Beterbiev was landing those power punches like he was trying to break a piñata at a kid's birthday party. It's no wonder Bivol came out looking like he just lost a fight with a paint mixer!
@@JO06stats? everyones eyes could see beterbiev landing with more impact, you buffoon. when artur got hit he didnt move an inch however when bivol got hit his whole body would shake and there would be a loud THUD.
I think the main issue is Bivol's early dominance of rounds but iffy closing. Most judges are going to favor the most recent moments they saw, and the final minute was most frequently dominated by Beterbiev
Naaaah Bivol tried to avoid fight most of the time. Bivol did outbox Beterbiev sometimes but he was on the run most of the time. The constant pressure from Beterbiev proved that he is storger.
Then how come floyd was 50-0 lol, aint no one gonna say how he got 50 wins by running at least 4-6 fights that could've been a loss cuz all he did was run and jab. Bivol always fights like that, he steps back a ton to avoid the hard punch or combos coming at him
@@evanultime1305you idiots keep talking about people's face at the end of a fight as though we have seen fighters win with a bruised face. You are fucking r3tarded
TBH I had it 115-113 for Beterbiev. Pretty even after 10 rounds. Bivol doing the flashier work up to that point with Beterbiev applying constant pressure. Beterbiev took control after the 10th and got me wins the fight.
Bivol always ran and defended from Beterbiev's attacks because Bivol was afraid of being KO'd, but his supporters were shameless and refused to accept that Bivol lost, even though everything was clear and the judges thought Beterbiev deserved to win.
Honestly it was such a good fight, both fighters just did incredible. it was so close I would've been happy with any fighter winning. Bivol I thought did enough but I thought beterbiev was way more entertaining as a fighter. I would not be mad at all at a rematch. also the show before hand was jaw dropping.
Bivol won 115-113 I can't see how someone would score this for Beterbiev, Bivol blocked pretty much all his shots, Bivol outlanded him with cleaner shots at a better percentage and all that Beterbiev did was push the pace but that doesn't really matter
@ViniciusJunior17 beterbiev had ring general ship, and arrgesion, which is on the boxing criteria plus look at bivol face. Bivol barely put a dent on beterbiev plus beterbiev punches were getting through Bivol glove. And beterbiev punches were more damaging. Bivol had more clean punches but it was teddy bear
Bivol spent many of the mid to late rounds hands up in his guard and either moving or standing still. He would then throw one or two flashy combinations that probably caught the eye of many of the casuals. And AB walked through all of them. The first three rounds were DBs but only because we all know AB is a slow starter. Did DB win these rounds or did AB give them away. A helluva fight.
@@que-ld4qrthe fuck does that have anything to do with the piss poor performance that Bivol had? You can't run, land all your punches on leather, try to clinch all night and expect to win 😂
Surprisingly most of it was due to Beterbievs punches hitting his gloves and then his gloves hitting his face. Just a testimony to Beterbievs power! We need a rematch though
i think what tipped the decision over the beterbiev is because of his effective aggression and ring generalship. The defense was basically even and bivol won on hard clean punches so the only thing left to decide the fight on who was applying the most pressure. There were a lot of round that i couldnt tell who one so at first the 116-112 wide card was surprising it makes more sense after everything calmed down but still, i think bivol won more than 4 rounds of the 12 so honstly yeah 116-112 is still wild
It shows you how risky it is to rely on information coming from your corner. Beterbiev was told to go for a knockout or they'll lose. Bivol was told only to hold on for a few more rounds, and that's a win form him. I am 100% positive if bivol wasn't so calculated he could've landed more punches in 11th and 12th round, which would be enough to leave a better impression on very, very subjective judges.
People were excepting Beterbiev to win only by KO, him winning by decision is like a very new thing for people to see, it's like fans has made the habit of seeing him winning by Knockouts. Fight was ridiculously close, could've gone either way, but wasn't a robbery though.
And this is why people constantly joke about corruption in the sport of boxing. Beterbiev winning 8 out of 12 rounds is ludicrous. Phenomenal fight and top tier performance from both fighters but 116-112 for either of them would be extremely disingenuous. Rematch is needed.
Promoters and people sitting in front rows always know a few seconds before they announce it. Same thing with Fury Usyk. Eddie Hearn and others were saying it's a split decision 10 seconds before the announcement.
Great performances by both ultra elite fighters. From my couch, lol.., I thought Bivol might have squeaked by, but with the exception of the 116-112 ridiculousness, the judges had it pretty close to right. Anyway thx to the fighters for their preparations and outstanding performances…
I thought Bivols footwork and handle speed gave Artur trouble. Bivol showed good defense and caught alot of punches with his gloves. Bivols physical strength also surprised me. I had Bivol winning the fight
you might be righ he ran the whole fight for his life and his face was busted up while artur face was clean 🤣🤣🤣🤣 cry babies delusional as hell. almost knocked bivol de f out even when he blocked the punches 😭😭😭😭 artur was on a single knee and way out of his prime.
Beterbiev came to box, while Bivol came to run a Track and Field event around the ring. That's what happened. The hype job that has been Bivol is finally over. Couldn't weight bully Beterbiev like he has the last 11 fights. Paper Tiger.
In my point of view, Beterviev respected Bivol very much. He only boxed Bivol. That's why Beterviev did not humiliated Bivol via knockout. There were many opportunities Bivol will be knockout, but Beterviev holded out. Respect to both great boxers and respect to the outcome of the game.
The fact that Turki himself is shocked and the fact that a lot of ppl are saying 116-112 made sense for bivol speaks volumes to me. So many of these rounds could swing either way ans hy the end of the 12th i had it a draw but with rounds 1 and another in the middle i scores even but was close to giving it to bivol. That scorecard is disgusting, rematch has to happen
Of course, in a close fight such as this one, the hype and emotions are ultimately going to dictate who you thought won immediately after the fight, regardless of the decision. People who screamed robbery should rewatch the fight through an analytical lens. I don't think they ever will though, because they don't like being wrong.
Jesus you guys are delusional . Bivol ran the entire fight after round 2 . We sat there the entire fight and watched Beterbiev dog walk Bivol and bully him. Beterbiev controlled the paced
@@jkb1603 Mayweather controlled maidana . Bivol didn’t.. simple bro you boy bivol couldn’t handle the smoke n power so he shelled up . That’s why he was discounted more in himself because he knew he got out dawg and couldn’t show a new dimension
"The sport itself won." I completely agree with this sentiment. I've been waiting for this fight for years and am so happy we finally got to see it. This is such a great time to be a boxing fan. It's never been easier to watch the fights, and to follow all of the fighters. Regardless of how I feel about the scoring of this bout at least I got to see a wonderful match that lived up to the hype.
Fans really being happy with the bare minimum at the point.
@@GrubKiller436 This is the absolute maximum. Bivol won in no universe and should not get a win.
Floyd Mayweather Jr's students like Fury and Bivol are getting exposed left right and center, Tank is the last big one left.
@@MartialArtsNkPoor judging isn't anything to celebrate. We need AI to look at hits and misses , not the tactics and strategies that consume humans
@@MartialArtsNk pass the haterade. FM 50-0 and it makes you seethe lmfao
Its a L for boxing because its the usual fixing fights bs
I'm a heavy Beterbiev fan coming into this fight. I still am, but now I also a Bivol fan. What a great performance from two top athletes. No BS no drama, just fight. Can't wait for the rematch.
No rematch clause in the contract
@@Rondigity92they both are open for rematch, according to interview. And the Saudi money also wish for rematch.
Artur beat Usyk 3x hit practically stopped him
@@iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7usyk beat artur in amateur lol
116-112 should say a lot about the judging in this fight 😂
Bivol lost regardless. Survival isnt winning. Bivol tried to age out Artur and he still lost lol
@@aurias01 did you even watch the fight?
@@dinowasd7632yeah Bivol was on autopilot in the last three rounds…I thought they were still gonna give it to him since his promoter was the one putting on the show
Yeah, it wasn't that lopsided, but in the end, bivol did lose the fight, so it doesn't really matter
According to Closter, Beterbiev won rounds 4-6, 11 and 12, and rounds 7, 8 and 10 are swing rounds. So technically 116-112 is possible with his logic if you give all of the swing rounds to beterbiev.
Personally I had Bivol up by 2 rounds. From what I saw, Bivol outboxed for most if the rounds. However, Beterbiev turned up the heat in the final rounds. IMO it was ao close that it could have got either way but I think Bivol won it. The 116-112 call was ridiculous but not much can be done. Overall a super tense fight with a rather disappointing ending for me but I'm m so down to see a rematch!
Edit- the guys under me commenting cant even read my comment thats how braindead they are.
Can you cut the bs and just admit this was kadirov flexing on the boxing world by letting us know he can do what ever he wants. He payed em all lmao thats why when artur wasnt smiling and mark ramsey a very good coach imo looked like he was disappointed and ready to take the defeat…. Thats when kadirov came to the ring grabbed artur like his child and laughed whispering something like “we won dont worry” its always been like this dont get me wrong beterbiev is a monster but even he realized bivol is absolutely the best fighter right now or even ever id say in light heavyweight since roy jones
Also if you watch kadirovs sons they are fight fans they love ufc and boxing so when they fight a event set up by kadirov the whole event is funny asf his son fights in 6 ounce gloves while his opponent fights with 16 rigged asf 😭😭😂 these chechens are the definition of bullys lmao
Bivol only landed 4 more punches than beterbiev, and beterbiev punches were way more effective and they didn’t count the amount of punches that hit bivol gloves and was going through the gloves
@@Gm00123stop it beterbiev has more power that's it that's not how u score boxing beterbiev lost this fight
@@dontrah1838 then how you score lol, boxing is scored by damage and bivol did 0 damage lol and berly outlanded beterbiev by 4 punches so can’t use the punches excuse, bivol was getting bullied
The judges did the scorecard while jerking off under the table
Beterbiev has bricks for hands, and then his head/chin is a brick too. The optics definitely favored Artur Beterbiev. Props to Bivol for being the 1st and thus far the only non-stoppage loss on Beterbiev’s perfect record. Artur Beterbiev is now at least Top-4 Pound-for-Pound.
He’s just Chechen
@@Khaseko😂
@@rollandcurtisfromVermont beterbiev just had surgery for his knee probably played major factor
What's crazy is most of the damage Bivol sustained was caused, as he explained, by his own gloves hitting his face when Beterbiev was landing.
That's power
@@phazonclash exactly even bivol is admitting to the power and difficulty also bivol said he needs time to heal from the fight for rematch and people saying bivol dominate are just bias
I think what people dont understand is that Bivol made a bunch of decisions at the end of rounds that judges hate and in a close fight, that matters a lot. Floyd was incredible at doing things judges love, doesnt mean he was not awesome he was just smart. And the mistake bivol made was clinching to close out rounds, starting ineffective trades near the end of rounds and getting rocked and pushed around the ring. Judges care about that stuff
exactly, the fact that artur won as a better boxer sure is wild
Finally someone who seen what I seen. People trying to credit Bivol with a lot of close round where he tried to steal by throwing wild missed or blocked combos at the last 15 seconds of the rounds.
Facts Floyd would have already sent the payment that’s what judges like
Lol, you already failed as a judge if you let things you like or hate affect your decisions.
That only meant they were impartial in the first place.
@@dion4670 uuhhh what? Every judge is like that? Humans have their biases. If im judging a fight im going to be looking for effective damage and who is imposing their will or in other words doing what they want to do. Those things are in the back of my head in addition to the boxing scoring criteria.
Another judge may value strong endings to rounds and ring generalship or punches landed or showmanship.
I scored the fight for Beterbiev 7-5 because i felt like he was doing what he wanted to do more throughout the fight. But i completely understand people who say Bivol won or people who say it was a draw. But a robbery? Maybe the fight was won by a round by either guy but but now a blowout
The rematch is going to be good
Tidak usah ada pertandingan ulang. Sudah cukup sekali bertanding dgn team bivol/eddie yg banyak bacot dan tdk percaya kepada juri.
Nawh beterbiev will win the rematch easily bivol knows he got robbed so that will cause discourage and he won't be as confident cuz now he's at a disadvantage beterbiev wins the next fight easily but bivol won this fight he got robbed and that will mentally hurt bivol I don't care to see a rematch
@@dontrah1838or it could motivate him more to win and he ends up winning Bivol doesn’t seem like someone to just be discouraged because of this loss I think he’s definitely going to work his ass off
@@jomensan981 i disagree I think it's over for bivol he knows if he doesn't ko beterbiev he will lose the fight to fraud judges so what does it even matter boxing is a joke
Rematch should BE in America or Europe
Bivol is a master boxer, he landed the clean combinations while Beterbiev mostly just hit gloves and shoulders. I had it 115-113 Bivol.
Thats why he stunned bivol like 4 times, Bivol was running the whole fight
@@tranquilator1109you can keep crying about him “running” he neutralized beterbiev
@@tranquilator1109lol i guess boxers shouldn’t use their footwork and defense anymore
@@spoodurmin9742yep this is how you know someone is a low iq fighter. Footwork and movement is part of boxing but they call it running now apparently
@@kraky5835u guys the ones crying. He lost
tough break for bivol. he sticked and moved for 36 minutes which is no easy task against a heavy hitter like beterbiev. Bivol definitely cruised the last 3 rounds which costed him the match unfortunately. hope we get a rematch because it was definitely a fun boxing match
Yeah he implied that he didn’t go all in on the 12th because he felt he was up in rounds. Great fight either way.
He ran, looking at his faces says everything Artur one knee out of his prime almost broke bibol eye orbital bone punching him and bivol blocking casing damage witrh his own hands 🤣 thanks good he didn't catch him clean or he could have die. Artur clearly won, only Christian people who happens to hate muslims says bivol won 🤣🤣
@@Mechanics-MMA😂you’re a special kind of Dumb
@@Mechanics-MMAbringing race and religion into it? Lame
If he didn't cruise, it would've been a draw. Which still goes to show how rigged it is.
I had bivol just win the fight. Beterbiev winning is understandable and fair but that scorecard is just atrocious
The judges did the scorecard while jerking off under the table
I had it 115:113 Beterbiev like Teddy Atlas as well.
Stop crying, Bivol ducked him for 7 years till Beterbiev was 39 years old with a bum knee.
That scorecard was generous towards Duckvol.
@@MartialArtsNkthere we are the fanboy that can't have a normal argument but have to bring out nicknames and dumb shit. You are the ruin of the sport for the one who are simply trying to enjoy it
@@musicclassic5938 this is the legit scoring. Two 115-113 and 114-114 is pretty fair. Beterbiev clearly won by majority decision.
General consensus seems to be that it was a close fight either way, maybe even a draw.....but that judge that scored it 116-112 was smoking angel dust.
Smoking the Ramzan Kadyrov death threat pack
Go be the judge wiseman
They told betterbiev in his corner that he needed a knockout, but a judge had him 116-112. That should tell you all.
They say that to motivate their fighter, if you listen to corners they say those things often. You reckon Garcia for instance in Joshua usyk 2 actually thought Joshua won the first three rounds? No, he says so to make Joshua motivated and not to despair. A coach knows his boxer and they motivate them differently.
The only extra round the 116 judge gave to beterbiev was round 4
And whats wrong with that? Beterbiev won all his fights by knockout, he and his team wanted this time also knockout like in the last fight, like always.
man that's the most stupid and brainless argument on why you think a fighter was robbed. "even their own corner thought he lost" no sherlock, the trainer himself said, we wanted to leave no doubts about a win and tried to encourage artur to knock him out.
Corners ain't a judge.
I thought BIvol won by one round but I can understand a Draw or a 115-113 for Beterbiev. Regardless it was a close, competitive, high level match us hardcore fans could appreciate. I hope they run it back!
One thing I noticed when I rewatched the fight is how biased the entire broadcast is in favor of Bivol. The commentators sugar coats every little thing Bivol does even though you can see Beterbiev is winning the round. Even the replays in between rounds shows Bivol's highlights most of the time even in those Beterbiev rounds! Lol. That's not enough, DAZN's post fight highlights is literally a Bivol highlights! I think this is why a lot of casuals thought that Bivol won the fight.
Because Bivol had almost all of his attacks cleaned
I also noticed that, to the point I wondered if they were watching the same fight I was. Confirmation bias? I definitely thought Beterbiev was doing way better than they did, and his partially blocked shots had a definite effect, as evident from the way the fighters looked at the end of the fight.
@@ballhawk387 yeah! Bob Arum thought the exact same thing in an interview.
Even beterbiev team said he needs a knock out to win, Bivol won I thought
They said that after he lost the 8th and 9th, then Artur went out and battered Bivol for 3 straight rounds. Clearly the sense of urgency worked to motivate their fighter
@@MechAdv They said that after the 10th round. They said it when there were two rounds left. Artur Beterbiev had a close round 10 that could have gone either way. Other than that, Beterbiev lost rounds 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9.
@@GrubKiller436 I had 7 and 8 as swing rounds, 10 for Beterbiev. So being extremely generous to Bivol and giving him both like you did, I could agree with a draw. I’m honestly shocked at the controversy on this decision. 115-113 Beterbiev was the right score imo.
I feel like it was a total junk fight, a draw should be fair.
They always say that's why he got all 20 ko
The three judges were an American Glenn Feldman, a Spaniard Manuel Oliver Palomo and a Polish Pawel Kardyni. The referee in charge of the fight was an American. The American Glenn Feldman scored it 114-114, the Spaniard Manuel Oliver Palomo scored it 115-113 in favor of Bivol, and the Polish Pawel Kardyni scored it 116-112. The idea that the referee was a Muslim shows ignorance. I was the one who stayed up from the first fight until almost 5am so I know. Neither Bivol's team nor he blamed the judges.
From my perspective Bivol didnt complain or make excuses because he is not a complainer. I still think that Bivol thought he won.
In favor of Beterbiev mate, not Bivol.
Bivol would have won the fight officially if the referee scored it in favor of him.
@@jakedasnake1704 He didn't complain and make excuses because he has none left, what's he gonna complain about?
He ducked Beterbiev for 7 years straight, waited till Beterbiev was 39 with a literal bum knee. What's he gonna say? The old man near retirement paid the judges?
@@MartialArtsNkNah, he thought he won. He said he didn't want to complain or make excuses.
Ah yes, because judges fix fights based on nationality… not money or threats or anything, lol.
I had it 115-113 Bivol. However, 114-114 and 115-113 Betterbiev were also acceptable scorecards. It was a close fight. And an excellent fight at that.
Yes those are acceptable but 116-112 is not a good score.
@@ippothedestroyer Agree. I can't see how it could be scored like that unless all close rounds went to Beterbiev.
@ippothedestroyer why is it not a good score? The only extra round he gave to beterbiev was round 4 that the other judges gave to bivol. You think there's a clear winner in round 4?
@@smhark786 You think giving 8 rounds to artur is correct?
@@ippothedestroyer yes ofcourse 8 rounds to artur is possible, round 4 is a swing round. You can give that to artur. The rest of the rounds pretty much fall in line with consensus and we have 116-112
that one judge is like when you're eating something good and you bite on something hard
Even Turki is saying the outcome wasn't fair
Turki is a business man....those filthy royal family cares only about money
And who is he? The best at boxing? A grown man that holds hands with men while wearing a nightgown. Hes a joke
Which honestly made it more sense that it wasn't rigged and the right man won.
@@faiz434no it was rigged you casual
10000% Turki is the highest ranking and most powerful man in the arena. It couldn’t have been rigged without him. Why would Turki say he didn’t agree with the judges if it was rigged?
When The Destroyer doesn't destroy, they'll always say, he lost the fight.
Bivol lost the 7th decisively.
Better won rounds 11 and 12 convincingly.
"destroyer" 😂, he didnt*destroy* anyone at that night, only got outboxed
Yeah, i def agree with ya bout the rounds. Though 116 is rediculous, i still had Beterbiev by 2 or at least 1 round.
beterbiev also easily won the 10th watch it again on turkis channel
Watch the corners from the moment the fight ended.
Bivols corner were comforting him but happy as if the knew they had done enough for a close win.
Bertebiev corner was somber as soon as he arrived in their corner, and comforting him. Mood remained the same up to a specific moment, then they were smiling and jumping before he even got the results.
Therefore, i can believe what Eddie said there about word getting around before the scores being read
Criminal scoring
It should have been more for Artur. He won by way more
Yes true
He should have knocked Bivol out. He is out of prime for sure. No way he’s winning the rematch lol
@@verynick Rematch will be easier for Beterbiev he knows he can take Bivols power so he just gonna blitz through him early
Exactly 116-112 lol
For the judge that scored it 116-112, I don’t get fussed about 1 bad score card. That’s why they have three judges.
I had it 114-114. And I thought I was being generous to Bivol.
What did I expect, these are the same hell hole that produce the people who judge Fury vs Wilder as draw. Total BS.
Pressure bivolil was running the whole fight what were you watching
@@justinhunt4767 So you're expecting him to slug out against a hard hitter? Wow what a genius.
@@davidtogi5878 casuals 😅
Fury vs wilder as a draw wasn’t bad lol. To manny rounds where they did nothing but throw jabs
I had Beterbiev winning, 7-5. The 116-112 scorecard is pretty ridiculous
Bro it's only 1 more round the judge gave beterbiev than you did it's not like it was 118-112 or something
@@AlphaAbyss_ Its a draw
8-4 is no much difference to 7-5.
There were many close rounds. 7-5 and 8-4 are similar decisions seperated by only one round and it does not matter at the end. Two judges ruled it a Beterbiev win.
Possible a draw but beterviev is the aggressor and that influence the judges...
*muslim
@@OctiDailyinsane cope
He wasn't the aggressor, bivol initiated 90-95% of the encounters and won majority of them
@@Snowforest60 who is the aggressor then the referee?
@@zatoichiable following someone around the ring doesn't make you the aggressor the aggressor is the one who initiated the fight which bivol was doing for most of the fight, beterbievs momentum came from bivol initiating the combat
Beterbiev's relentless pressure and powerful body shots were a decisive factor in his victory over Bivol. Despite Bivol's impressive defensive skills, Beterbiev's superior physicality and aggression ultimately wore him down. While the scoring was close, experts like Teddy Atlas, Gareth A Davies, and Spencer Oliver agreed that Beterbiev's dominance was evident throughout the fight.
He hit nothing but gloves and got countered flush all night.
Good job seeking out the only three pundits who agree with you.
@@emjay3066 Stop, that's absolute BS
@@emjay3066 Take a look at the left side of Bivol's head. Was he wearing a glove on his head? 😂
@@marcusaurelius5149 Yep those partially blocked shots definitely had an effect. The clearly biased broadcast also affected people's perception. It seemed they weren't watching the same fight I was. The 10-9 and 1 point per knockdown default scoring does not reflect the action. I'd rather they call more rounds that are too closer to call even and more rounds in which one fighter is clearly dominant 10-8 or even wider, even if there are no knockdowns.
Even Teddy Atlas who don't like Beterbiev because of his boxer Gvozdyk gave 115-113... Beterbiev
And I share Teddy's scoring.
"Even this one guy over hear agrees with me..." yeah, him, you, and the two judges will stand alone together I guess.
@@Joseph_Mineo I agree that the 116:112 card is outrageous, but 115:113 for Artur is a fair score. Pro fights are not won by running.
I saw Bivol wining the fight close one but on Bivol side
Seeing Kadyrov lifting Beterbiev right after the announcement amplifies the sour taste that the 116-112 card left
only after that have I found out that Beterbiev actually supports his regime and war in Ukraine. I lost all respect for him, hate when these people escape their land to live in the West, but support the people who make it worse.
Bivol won IMHO. Nobody would have questioned the scores if judges scored in favor of Bivol. But the judges had Beterbiev won, and we're all debating how wrong or right it was.
Beterbiev is a different breed, he walked through everything Bivol did and was walked him down and was pressuring Bivol to the end
What a fight man
the fight was close going into the last 2 rounds and Bivol did absolutely nothing for those 2 rounds. Also you can’t blame the judges for counting power punches higher than jabs when they have close punch count in a round
But the clean power punches were all Bivol’s, Beterbiev didn’t land clean power shots at all.
He even said that in the ring afterwards.
Doesn't matter if you land clean at this weight. Look at Bivols face. Beterbiev clearly had the more effective aggression + dominated the centre of the ring.
@@FrankLucas-pw5hs it does matter. The logical way is to measure damage done per round and Bivol was doing more damage. You can't call punches hitting gloves and shoulders damage, the sting is taken off it even if the gloves are hitting your own eyes.
@@briantimlin2650are you retarded? the impact goes through the gloves, and even made him have a swollen hand too. if punches to the guard and arms dont count why should punches to the body? so stupid
Both fighters are a credit to the sport of boxing and admirable role models for young men.
Far to many boxers/promoters will duck legitimate competition to keep the easy money flowing. Beterbiev and Bivol are 2 of my favorite boxers and I hope they both gained many new fans after this fight. Boxing won, the fans won.
Perhaps we can ask judges to explain their decisions in the future so we can get better insight into why they scored fights a certain way.
I had Beterbiev winning 115-113 simply by him controlling and being the aggressor majority of the fight, when they did exchange beterbiev usually for the better of it
bivol lost the last two rounds that could have given him the fight.
@@dirkdiggler2379he lost the last 3 actually. he easily won the 1st 2nd 3rd and 9th, with both winning/10-10 the 7th and/or 8th too, but no way can you give bivol the 10th rewatch it on turkis channel beterbiev controlled the first 2:10 got caught twice but he caught bivol way more over the course of the round
Being the aggresor means nothing. If that was the case, then being a defensive fighter would make no sense. Bivol outlanded him, landed the cleaner shots, was faster, showed more skill, and outboxed him the entire fight. I had it 116-112 for bivol.
Whenever I can't sleep from now on im I'm going to replay this snoozer.
That polish judge who scored the fight 117-112 needs to be investigated.
I had 7-5 bivol with one round that was definitely a swing round. At least ruled a draw. However this fight was close not a robbery.
That being said, yes, betebiev was the aggressor forcing bivol to fight on the back foot. But the majority of arturs punches were not clean. Most of the shots landed on bivols gloves and arms.
Even at the end of round 10, on the broadcast you can hear arturs corner telling him he needed to knock bivol out so even they knew they were losing.
Bivol BOXED beterbiev, he wasn't the aggressor because he couldn't be, you can't fight in the pocket with a power puncher like artur. Bivol would've got knocked out
There needs to be a rematch.
Cope
@@SuperKamiGuruu absolutely no substance to the conversation.
@@reykarkoisa2621 fr people cry saying 115-113 beterbiev is robbery, bro literally if any of the rounds get switched u get that result the 116-112 was retarded tho
@@reykarkoisa2621what is there to add? Go rewatch the fight. Rounds were almost even but the last 3 definitely in Arthur's favor. Gassed out Bivol couldn't keep the offense. Fair judging
No need for a rematch, how can a man who run away ask for rematch, didnt want any smoke whilst he was there.
Was one of the most highly skilled matchups in boxing today and a fantastic fight from both but I felt like Bivol should've got the nod. Great fight either way
Also a video on the Cameron/Whittaker controversy would be good. As a Cameron supporter, I'm still upset over it 😂
I don't know much about Saudi Arabia, but they have been fantastic for boxing.
Try google mate. The place is a backwards hell hole.
@@HibeeMcbee im from saudi , please elaborate
@@HibeeMcbee good thing they were strictly talking about boxing in saudi not the place itself, clown
Oil tyrants built on indian slaves
Oil tyrants built on indian slaves
great video again mate! love seeing your videos pop up! keep going and keep killing it!
If the 116-112 score had been in favor of Bivol, no one would have questioned it. That's how you know he won.
That would've been an actual robbery.
116-112 for beterbiev makes way more sense than for bivol
@@evanultime1305 nah
@@evanultime1305 retard
116-112 for Bivol would be utter bullshit. 116-112 in general is a stupid scorecard for a fight this close.
This fight was close enough to be 7-5 for either man or 6-6 anything more is just biased bollocks.
Great job with this video! Loved ❤ it.
i have it 115-113 for beterbiev, for me ring generalship counts and i feel bivol did not take enough risk and allowed artur to dictate the pace and move him around
Screwy decisions like this is why MMA is far superior. I watched this with my gf and was just telling her before the fight that the problem with boxing is that its corrupt, and to much politics. Told her that bad decisions happen way to often. Then immediately afterwards we get this wonky decision, making boxing look really bad.
Bivol won the fight hands down. Outboxed him all night, landed more punches and landed the cleaner shots. Beterbiev looked slow, and lazy in comparison. Only thing he had going was more power. Even the announcers were saying in the last round that beterbiev needed a knockout to win.
I had Bivol 116-112, he landed the most efficient punches the entire fight and Arthur almost did not hurt him as Bivol dodged or blocked everything that was thrown at him. Even if you don’t agree on how I scored the fight, it is crystal clear that Bivol won that fight
Bro beterbiev won 100%. Beterbiev landed more hits on bivol. He break the Defence of bivol. Bivol was just running like chicken
@@Redefreiheit-c1mbivol landed more despite throwing less than beterbiev.
@@Redefreiheit-c1m Even if he landed more, Bivol almost landed all the cleanest punches of the fight. He didn’t break his defense, Bivol’s defense was spectacular he dodged or blocked everything that was thrown at him. And have you ever heard of boxing on the outside ? That’s not being a chicken you casual
@@Redefreiheit-c1m y u lying 😂
@@gnf_swampboi3305 no
Excellent fight! The whole fight between Beterbiev and Bivol was held in a forceful manner. Both boxers were attentive to their opponent's punches, as they realized that missing one accentuated punch could lead to a knockout. Beterbiev after the first three rounds of the attempt to work on technique began to press, throwing out his powerful punches. However, he was unable to lock onto Bivol and knock him out as he had done with all of his previous opponents. Bivol was constantly shifting Biterbiev's aim, defending with his block and shifting from side to side, preventing him from landing a series of knockout punches. The center of the ring remained behind Biterbiev most of the time. In this fight we did not see the famous element of movement from the Soviet style of boxing - shuttle kick, performed by Dmitry Bivol. The use of the shuttle is suitable in amateur boxing, where 3 rounds, as well as in work with a boxer-player or slow-moving opponent. Bivol used the defense with a block and a trip takedown to the side. Countered Beterbiev with counter power work. We didn't see any spurts of concussive strikes from Beterbiev in this fight. We can discuss a lot about who won this fight. I will say that the fight was very competitive. Both opponents were strong both physically and technically. Nobody fell in the ring. We all saw this exciting fight. Beterbiev showed that he has the right to be the winner, and Bivol proved that he is unbeatable. Before the fight I gave 30% that Beterbiev would win by knockout and 70% that Bivol would win on points. The result of the fight surprised me - Beterbiev won a judges' decision for the first time in his professional career. I was also surprised by Bivol's hard power style of fighting, which started to take shape since his fight with Canelo Saul Alvarez. Bivol's feet became more stocky, minimal use of the shuttle. Dmitry Bivol proved himself in exchanging hard punches with Beterbiev. We saw the athletic power of the athletes. I think everyone will learn a lesson from this fight. Personally, I was once again convinced that cardio and physical endurance are an important component for a boxer. Recently I have added to my training the recommendations from the practical manual “400 Boxing Combinations” by Yuriy Ivantsiv. This manual contains training schemes, how to develop stamina, physical strength, to work out skills of close combat, middle and long distance fighting, to work out a knockout punch and a series of power punches in non-stop mode through practicing boxing combinations. Every time I finish practicing 10 rounds on the bag, I realize that these are the unforgettable sensations I was missing in the training process. As a result - my endurance has improved, during sparring I don't have a fleeting confusion about which series of punches to throw. I understand what blows my sparring partner is going to deliver, so I have time to defend and counterattack. After a month of training on the methodology “400 Boxing Combinations” I managed to diversify my combinatorial punching technique. Finally, I would like to recommend everyone to subscribe to this channel. It puts out useful content for all boxing fans! I wish you all success and good luck!
Artur was on attack mode all fight bevol wasn't letting his hand go those
Attack mode? Bivol landed more
@@Chris-yg6lo He went full attack mode on Bivol's gloves and forearms
@@Chris-yg6loyeah 5 more shots that had less weight on them than beterbiev beterbiev was the ring general pushing the pace and constantly engaging
For me it would be a crime to give it to bivol based of how he fought that was never a winning performance so at least give it to the guy trying to fight
@@AlphaAbyss_ bivol outlanded him in total punches, jabs, and had far better accuracy the entire night, was faster, and landed the cleaner shots and combinations. Only thing beterbiev landed more of was power shots, which beterbiev landed at 29 percent and bivol at 50 percent. From a pure boxing perspective. Bivol won hands down. Beterbiev spent more time hitting bivol gloves than anything.
@@cuckertarlson3037 shots in the gloves still count especially when you hit as hard as beterbiev standing there covering up can't be considered effective defense bivol was scared and ran around the ring for 12 rounds judges remember that and he didn't land many clean shots that were actually significant he to landed on the gloves alot people are forgetting that
Depending on the metrics used to score this fight, it really could've went either way but bivol did a great job at not allowing autur to turn up like he usually likes to, bivol boxing style is a power punchers worst nightmare, for sure would see the rematch if it happens
Honestly it was a tight decision but I think beterbiev took it, he threw a bunch of punches through bivol's guard that may have seemed to most of those watching as blocked but they actually landed. He was also piecing up bivol in the last 3 rounds after his movement slowed down. Bivol definitely put up a great fight tho.
the boxing stats says beterbiev barely landed but bivol face says other i think punching through guards dont get as much points as it should
@@gaw862bivol only landed 4 more total punches than beterbiev but beterbiev punches were more effective and the punches threw the gloves didn’t count but did impact bivol just look at his face and his body would tremble after getting hit and even blocking
Bivol’s faced was bruised because of guarding the punches artur made. With a heavy hitting opponent like beterbiev, bruises to the face are the least dmg you can take. The aggressor doesn’t always win specially if he can’t cut the opponent’s path and keeps getting hit with counter punches
@@diosdadojrlubiano7674 he cut his path via why bivol was holding lol he was holding for dear life
@@diosdadojrlubiano7674So it did get through.
Why are judges scores still kept secret until the end of the fight?
I have bivol up 4 to 3 rounds. He's way more accurate and landed more power punches
3 is too much. 4 is just stupid.
@@TactlessGuyabsolutely absurd. Bivol won 1-3, Beterbiev 10-12. You’re saying Bivol won all the middle rounds?
with no power
@@aamerali2107 bs, they did have power
4 rounds is crazy bro
Very tough fight to judge. Bivol may have landed more clean shots, but Beterbiev was definitely the aggressor, and his partially blocked blows had an effect, as is evident from the condition of Bivol's face. I also don't like the default 10-9 rounds when there aren't knockdowns. I'd like to see more rounds called even, and greater margins to better reflect the action, regardless of knockdowns.
Thought it was a draw but i thought they’d give it to bivol by 1 point, but can’t blame the judges beterbiev was aggressive pressuring going forward the whole time and ended the fight strong, a rematch is needed tho
I feel the same
Great fight from two warriors , it was a close fight, but Betterbiev was the one moving forward almost the whole fight , and that on boxing makes the difference.
I really thought beterbiev won and I honestly can’t see how people are giving it to bivol. Beterbiev was in control most of the fight hunted him down except for a few rounds. While beterbiev didn’t “land” he did damage by hitting his glove. And put the pressure. Bivol fought like he was trying to survive while beterbiev was was fighting to win. 116-112 is crazy tho. I thought it was was clear that beterbiev won tbh
When you face a pressure fighter like Bertie Beetle you have to fight a matador counter puncher style, you can't stand in the pocket and trade all night, that's just stupid.
Even the guys who think Artur won have to admit that he didn’t actually land punches.
Bivol was landing clean all night and had impenetrable defence. He literally boxed perfectly.
I give up.
@@emjay3066 these guys are too inbred from years or reproducing with cousins to have a cognitive understanding of how fights are scored... dont waste your time
@@emjay3066 my thoughts exactly. How can you score punches and say a guy is doing damage hitting gloves and shoulders? It's literally why blocks exist, to take the sting away and make punches mostly nullified. Where as Bivol landed clean beautiful hard shots multiple times in every round. Even Beterbiev said he was outclassed and thought he lost!
Yes Bivol had bruising on his eyes because the power was still hurting by his own gloves hitting his own eyes, and that's why it was still a tight fight, but it was clear that Bivol was the one doing cleaner more damaging work in most of the rounds.
That's a fair take, Artur was definitely on the offensive and Bivol was on the defensive most of the fight, but I think many people thought Bivol's effective combos were enough to win by points, myself included.
I gave AB most of the latest rounds which is why my score was 116-112 for him. Bivol was merely fighting in spurts, perhaps 20 to 30 seconds per round while AB would put the pressure, corner him, threw combinations which moved him everywhere (just look at his face).
I knew beterbiev was going to win, he a unique puncher type that actually has the technical ability to win fights without the need to chase a knockout, the knockouts come to him.
I honestly like both fighters, and whichever way the fight might have gone would be fine with me, but I have to agree that the verdict was just criminal ☠☠
The Judges opinion factors into how a fight is scored. It wasn’t a robbery, your fighter didn’t win. This is boxing if you don’t like the decision, you don’t like boxing
Who's fighter
L take, Your excusing piss poor judging because of opinions. Fights shouldn’t be scored on opinions that’s the same as scoring to emotional. Fights should be scored on facts, and the facts are beterbiev got outboxed. Points and eye test.
@@r.j-3861 yes but the rules are written to say the opinion of the judge scoring has influence. So like I said above your not right you just don’t like boxing
Imagine saying you don't like boxing if you don't like a specific decision ☠️☠️
@@dominicgiglio-tos5982 because it’s in the rules, the judges subjective opinion affects the scoring of a fight. It’s a corrupt sport, with corruption written into the rules. I don’t care about any decision, stopped watching long ago because boxing is a bad sport and they will never change it because it makes money off dumb people
Regardless on who you think won, as no one will settle to an agreement, this fight was absolutely entertaining and insane! I was on the edge of my seat while watching this, and although I do believe that 116-112 scorecard was a bit criminal, I saw that fight going to either fighters. Bivol with the cleaner shots, while Beterbiev had the nonstop aggression near the end.
I respect both fighters greatly, and the only thing I wish to say is what defines the winner of a fight by points? because I feel like situations like Isaac Cruz vs Tank Davis or Haney vs Loma reflect this same mentality of what shots matter and what aggression matters overall through the fight. I wish to see both fighters continue to be amazing!
Round 12 on rewatch I think Bivol won, Beterbiev was moving forward a lot and backing Bivol up but overwhelming majority of his punches were avoided or blocked. Bivol fighting on the backfoot made Beterbiev look like he was having a lot more success than was what actually happened. I think Beterbievs constant pressure won the judges over but Bivol out punched him throughout the fight.
This exactly. But i do agree Beterbiev hurt Bivol with a body shot. Bivol did got hit but not by a lot to win the fight. It just seemed like he hit bivol but the punches were blocked or evaded. Crazy. In exchanges, bivol got the most of it as he hits arthur while managed to evade arthur's punches.
@@FroggyyML When the fight ended and Beterbiev looked dejected I was surprised because it was a relatively close fight. But I think he knew how little he was actually landing.
@@mezivar5252agree, I just can’t believe it was round 10 and even Arturs corner said he needed a KO. Majority of the punches in those last rounds hit Bivols gloves, that’s what messed his face up the most his own gloves hitting his face. Just a testimony to Arturs power though.
I had similar thoughts around Bivol winning during the earlier rounds of the contest, by using his jab and combos, but I truly felt Beterbiev was stronger, appeared much more in control, and used his punching power more effectively to win the contest.
The stats are in, and it turns out Bivol only threw few more punches that actually hit the target. So, if you’re keeping score at home, that’s not exactly a knockout performance! And let’s not forget, Beterbiev was landing those power punches like he was trying to break a piñata at a kid's birthday party. It's no wonder Bivol came out looking like he just lost a fight with a paint mixer!
11-1 Bivol
You’re choosing to only say one side of the stats? Beterbiev threw so much more punches lol, stats also say bivol landed much more impactful punches
Bivol was more accurate and landed more power punches Beterbiev missed more than half of his punches.
Lol😂
@@JO06stats? everyones eyes could see beterbiev landing with more impact, you buffoon. when artur got hit he didnt move an inch however when bivol got hit his whole body would shake and there would be a loud THUD.
I think the main issue is Bivol's early dominance of rounds but iffy closing. Most judges are going to favor the most recent moments they saw, and the final minute was most frequently dominated by Beterbiev
Naaaah
Bivol tried to avoid fight most of the time. Bivol did outbox Beterbiev sometimes but he was on the run most of the time.
The constant pressure from Beterbiev proved that he is storger.
Then how come floyd was 50-0 lol, aint no one gonna say how he got 50 wins by running at least 4-6 fights that could've been a loss cuz all he did was run and jab. Bivol always fights like that, he steps back a ton to avoid the hard punch or combos coming at him
@@droptopp3479 Look at bivol's face at the end of the fight.
@@evanultime1305you idiots keep talking about people's face at the end of a fight as though we have seen fighters win with a bruised face. You are fucking r3tarded
fight was a close fight and not a robbery.
A bunch of people whining about the scorecards, but Bivol lost regardless of the one judge. The fight was dictated by Betetbiev.
TBH I had it 115-113 for Beterbiev. Pretty even after 10 rounds. Bivol doing the flashier work up to that point with Beterbiev applying constant pressure. Beterbiev took control after the 10th and got me wins the fight.
Bivol always ran and defended from Beterbiev's attacks because Bivol was afraid of being KO'd, but his supporters were shameless and refused to accept that Bivol lost, even though everything was clear and the judges thought Beterbiev deserved to win.
No robbery, just 2 great boxers doing their best
Once again, an absolutely fantastic banger of a fight between 2 warriors is overshadowed by the corrupt, bullshit decision by “judges” smh
Honestly it was such a good fight, both fighters just did incredible. it was so close I would've been happy with any fighter winning. Bivol I thought did enough but I thought beterbiev was way more entertaining as a fighter. I would not be mad at all at a rematch. also the show before hand was jaw dropping.
Beterbiev won 7-5
Bivol won 115-113 I can't see how someone would score this for Beterbiev, Bivol blocked pretty much all his shots, Bivol outlanded him with cleaner shots at a better percentage and all that Beterbiev did was push the pace but that doesn't really matter
11-1 Bivol
@@DanielCordone9 😂😂😂😂
@@mariomedrano6447 Could only give 1 round to Bertabiev and that was the 11th
@ViniciusJunior17 beterbiev had ring general ship, and arrgesion, which is on the boxing criteria plus look at bivol face. Bivol barely put a dent on beterbiev plus beterbiev punches were getting through Bivol glove. And beterbiev punches were more damaging. Bivol had more clean punches but it was teddy bear
Bivol spent many of the mid to late rounds hands up in his guard and either moving or standing still. He would then throw one or two flashy combinations that probably caught the eye of many of the casuals. And AB walked through all of them. The first three rounds were DBs but only because we all know AB is a slow starter. Did DB win these rounds or did AB give them away. A helluva fight.
Bivol’s eye 👁️ looks like a calzone from a Italian pizza shop
he would leave you without any eyes mate
😂
@@que-ld4qrthe fuck does that have anything to do with the piss poor performance that Bivol had? You can't run, land all your punches on leather, try to clinch all night and expect to win 😂
@@que-ld4qr are you coping? lmao
Surprisingly most of it was due to Beterbievs punches hitting his gloves and then his gloves hitting his face. Just a testimony to Beterbievs power! We need a rematch though
i think what tipped the decision over the beterbiev is because of his effective aggression and ring generalship. The defense was basically even and bivol won on hard clean punches so the only thing left to decide the fight on who was applying the most pressure. There were a lot of round that i couldnt tell who one so at first the 116-112 wide card was surprising it makes more sense after everything calmed down but still, i think bivol won more than 4 rounds of the 12 so honstly yeah 116-112 is still wild
bivol was always saved by the bell from getting knocked out also be was clinching so much
'Knocked out'
He was never in any true danger that whole fight, let alone coming close to being knocked out. Most shots were blocked or whiffed.
"clinching so much" dude are you blind? There were like 5 clinches total across 12 rounds.
@@TitosLastBrainCell-8 did u see his face. And he gassed bcz he was getting hurt
You haven't watched many fights if you think he was clinching alot
It shows you how risky it is to rely on information coming from your corner.
Beterbiev was told to go for a knockout or they'll lose.
Bivol was told only to hold on for a few more rounds, and that's a win form him.
I am 100% positive if bivol wasn't so calculated he could've landed more punches in 11th and 12th round, which would be enough to leave a better impression on very, very subjective judges.
The judges need to be investigated and this fight should be a no contest.
Watched it with a bunch of people and we all kinda agreed with the 116-112. We were more shocked at how one of the judges had it as a draw
81 views 17 likes in 7 minutes bro fell off
Counting like you ain’t one of em is crazy work
People were excepting Beterbiev to win only by KO, him winning by decision is like a very new thing for people to see, it's like fans has made the habit of seeing him winning by Knockouts. Fight was ridiculously close, could've gone either way, but wasn't a robbery though.
And this is why people constantly joke about corruption in the sport of boxing. Beterbiev winning 8 out of 12 rounds is ludicrous. Phenomenal fight and top tier performance from both fighters but 116-112 for either of them would be extremely disingenuous. Rematch is needed.
Promoters and people sitting in front rows always know a few seconds before they announce it. Same thing with Fury Usyk. Eddie Hearn and others were saying it's a split decision 10 seconds before the announcement.
Artur won by close points. Look at how bad Bivol face looks.
Your dumbass thinks boxing is only won by how badly someone face looks. Tyson fury has won matches where he had a bloodied face.
Not true
Great performances by both ultra elite fighters. From my couch, lol.., I thought Bivol might have squeaked by, but with the exception of the 116-112 ridiculousness, the judges had it pretty close to right.
Anyway thx to the fighters for their preparations and outstanding performances…
I thought Bivols footwork and handle speed gave Artur trouble. Bivol showed good defense and caught alot of punches with his gloves. Bivols physical strength also surprised me. I had Bivol winning the fight
That 116-112 is not even figuratively criminal, but should be literally criminal imo
Bivol won 115-113
Lost*
i had the opposite i got Beterbiev 115-113. That just shows how close this fight is.
@@mahdijamil6247 it can go either way but best draw for beterbiev
@@mahdijamil6247 I had the same
you might be righ he ran the whole fight for his life and his face was busted up while artur face was clean 🤣🤣🤣🤣 cry babies delusional as hell. almost knocked bivol de f out even when he blocked the punches 😭😭😭😭 artur was on a single knee and way out of his prime.
This was a good fight. I hope they do the rematch these are definitely the two best at this weight.
Beterbiev came to box, while Bivol came to run a Track and Field event around the ring. That's what happened. The hype job that has been Bivol is finally over. Couldn't weight bully Beterbiev like he has the last 11 fights. Paper Tiger.
Lol "weight-bully" you know Beterbiev is the same size as Usyk right?
In my point of view, Beterviev respected Bivol very much. He only boxed Bivol. That's why Beterviev did not humiliated Bivol via knockout. There were many opportunities Bivol will be knockout, but Beterviev holded out. Respect to both great boxers and respect to the outcome of the game.
I had beterbiev winning it
Could we see you cover the Wardley vs Clarke rematch?
Beterbiev 8-4
The fact that Turki himself is shocked and the fact that a lot of ppl are saying 116-112 made sense for bivol speaks volumes to me. So many of these rounds could swing either way ans hy the end of the 12th i had it a draw but with rounds 1 and another in the middle i scores even but was close to giving it to bivol. That scorecard is disgusting, rematch has to happen
Great fight beterbiev clinched it
Of course, in a close fight such as this one, the hype and emotions are ultimately going to dictate who you thought won immediately after the fight, regardless of the decision.
People who screamed robbery should rewatch the fight through an analytical lens. I don't think they ever will though, because they don't like being wrong.
Jesus you guys are delusional . Bivol ran the entire fight after round 2 . We sat there the entire fight and watched Beterbiev dog walk Bivol and bully him. Beterbiev controlled the paced
being on the backfoot isn't running, arthur punched the air and the gloves, bivol landed clean shots
Yeah if you keep walking forward you should automatically win the fight
What a joke of a take.
Then Maidana beat Mayweather both times according to your logic.
Stop it. Bivol won this fight.
@@jkb1603 Mayweather controlled maidana . Bivol didn’t.. simple bro you boy bivol couldn’t handle the smoke n power so he shelled up . That’s why he was discounted more in himself because he knew he got out dawg and couldn’t show a new dimension