How to acoustically treat your room with good WAF
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Do room treatments help stereo systems sound their best? You bet they do, but how to treat them economically and keep your spouse happy? CEO Paul shares a few tips and tricks. If you are interested in acquiring the Audiophile's Guide it will be available on January 27th on PS Audio's website www.psaudio.com. The companion SACD/CD will be available then too at www.psaudio.co...
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I just made plans for a bookshelf a few weeks ago and I was uncertain if I need it, now you made me realize it is necessary!
For WAF, I was advised to put fake (or real) trees like a Ficcus in the corners which act as both diffusers and absorbers. So I did and then I hid some corner bass traps behind them !! :)
plants, drapes/ curtains, carpets, acoustic paintings/ felt wall art, furniture, bookshelfs, pillows.
works well for acoustics, has extra functions and also looks nice.
a cozy room sounds better than an uncomfortable one.
As a former librarian I can let you in on a secret: you can also read them
Now, that's one for the books.
You surely didnt waste your time there.
Paul, make it easy for your subscribers. Your Audiophiles Guide and CD should be available in combo form on PS Audio's website or on Amazon in both digital and an actual book form.
my guess..... they put the book on Amazon so they didnt have to stock (warehouse space) & ship thousands of books. and, since cds are smaller, they dont mind & dont want to pay Amazon to handle those.
but, i completely agree.... ordering both from one source would be nice
And so it shall be. Thanks. Check our website www.psaudio.com on January 27th and both will be available.
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio , please and thank you
Would love to See a printed Version of That Book, With maybe even the CD included.
Is it only available in digital?
see my answer to DANGER ZONE ^above^
Years back I had a dedicated listening room.. The first thing I installed was "Room Tunes" - corner tunes... These pillow-like triangular pads were tacked up in all 4 corners. They really knocked out that hollow echo sound. Clap your hands and listen for an echo. These helped a lot and were close to the colors in the room so they didn't look out of place.
Most quality audio gear is equipped with a volume knob. One of the greatest sound diffusers ever created.
Just to let you all know, his book was out and I hoarded them all, right away. Presently I’m building audiophile bookshelves and selling them either stand alone or packed with those books. But let me tell you one thing, books matter. I was shocked by the results.
Thank you Paul, bookcase an excellent idea. Also I use those trolleys you are leaning on and judging by the bend that power amp is HEAVY.
i have just got both of the books today awaiting reading good stuff keep it up
I actually fixed the problem, has awesome stereo sound and my wife was really happy.
It’s called headphones.
as long as that compromise satisfies you.
I discovered last night that wall reflections can make one speaker sound noticeably louder than the other speaker that's not as close to the walls!
Use a high pass filter at 80hz in your videos ;) great work!
A rug made a BIG improvement in my home office (no bigger than a large closet).
great video - "sound" and simple advice!
I recently purchased a pair of large electrostatic loudspeakers for $15,000. Each speaker is 1.6M/5Ft high and I was able to position them in exactly the right place with the aid of a $25,000 diamond ring.
Wonderful to hear someone selling high-end components "admit" that the room plays are bigger role than the components! I see that as a sign of integrity. As a former sound engineer I currently listen only on headphones, since the room I have is - from my perspective - not worth placing speakers in.
He's correct: I bought his book and indeed- my stereo sounds like a new system after applying his Technics (pun intended).
The best anwser so far. Thank you!
My bedroom system has been upgraded with a WAP.
Im goin to guess alot of these guys probably wont actually know what WAP is referring to lol
@@JukeboxAlley LOL I doubt it.
Hi Paul. Love the videos and I’m addicted!!! Where can you get the book in the UK? Only the Kindle addition on Amazon.co.uk.
North Carolina CH Representing
Where do I find the disk on the PSA site? Should be easy to find me thinks...
The PS audio setup guide is nowhere to be found.
Also not at amazon - do your home work , Paul ;-)
as usual
these videos are recorded well in advance.
he was guessing by the time this video aired...that the book would be ready.
sadly, it is not.
hang tight........its coming.
@@googoo-gjoob that would great
The book appears to be found by searching The Stereo.
www.amazon.com/Audiophiles-Guide-Stereo-PaulI-McGowan-ebook/dp/B08SJ3M1R8/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2658IWZN8J8E3&dchild=1&keywords=the+stereo+paul+mcgowan&qid=1610228140&sprefix=the+stereo+%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-2
"Happy as a clam"??? Statistically speaking they have been proven clinically as some of the more melancholy of bi-valves. (99% true!) :)
😂😂😂
That’s the truth! Room acoustics has a dominant effect on the sound of your system .....cables and power quality at the very end of the list.
Why does that microwave he's leaning on have two handles?
After You furnished the room You go and buy a pair of Larsen speakers. And You got WAF, because they are made to stand up-close the the back wall. ;)
We've heard a lot about this book, and I've checked 3 times. When is it out, and with a link in your description? I just found a kindle book called Audiophile's Guide: The Stereo. I guess that's it. But you should mention the entire title, and again, provide a link in the description.
That's not it. His book isn't out
Funny how there's never talk of "husband acceptance".
I don't like the WAF acronym: sexist and anachronistic.
someone will force the creation of some kind of law to increase the number of female audiophiles and to force the use of "human acceptance factor" instead instead of WAF. Wait for it.... :-)
Well this is all anecdotal... it’s not funny to me, just anecdotal...
A link to a book would be nice
I can't find the disc: PS Audio > Products > Mus??? Thank you Paul.
No book, only for people who have kindle. And no CD. Fantastic.
@@thegrimyeaper I don't have a Kindle or a smartphone, and I use Debian GNU/Linux. Amazon doesn't like this setup.
@@Jorge-Fernandez-Lopez I have a smartphone, but I'd never in a million years sit and read an entire book on it.
Up here in the Canadian hinterland it'll cost me over 50 bucks for an ebook version of your book, Paul. It's a little pricey. Maybe if it included the CD, or a download of flac files it would look like a better value.
Hello Paul, your reference CD is nowhere to be found on your site. You advertise your book and CD so much, it should be easy to acquire them. Thanks for your great videos.
I cannot find cd. I cannot find the book ???
Little help with a link maybe? There isn't a music link on psaudio.com that I can find.
when you say 'music' what are you expecting?
OCTAVE RECORDS so far has just 3 albums for sale.
all are available of PSA website
@@googoo-gjoob I'm referring to the disc that accompanies his new book that Paul has been referencing for the last month or so. Listen at 4:54 in to the above video. Paul references a music link that is not available. I've looked for the disc but can't seem to find it. But thanks for jumping in.
@@Sam_CL350 , ive helped considerably...and youre welcome.
now that youve completely clarified your question.....
the cd which accompanies the book isnt yet available.
there is a multiple month lead time on these videos....he'd hoped/guessed they would be out by now.
not quite yet.
glad to help.
@@googoo-gjoob Thank you. I wasn’t aware of the long lead.
Your book is only on kindle..?
Uh oh lol. I was really hoping for a paperback haha
no mention of the steam shovel approach
The suggestions here are good, but anyone whose sound room has high ceilings (9+ feet) or cathedral ceilings should consider some sort of acoustic treatment for the walls. I use tapestries for that purpose and they seem to please women. Never married so I am not sure about the wife factor.
Thanks Sr!!
It's only on kindle on Amazon....I would think a hard book would be much more advantageous esp if it has pictures or diagrams.
Hi Paul, found your book on Amazon.co.uk, Looking on your website, which cd/sacd/digital file is it that goes with the book? There are 3 masters showing up, :Hey Joe, Out of thin air and
Temporary Circumstances.... which one goes with your book? Thanks in advance, Dan.
I too only see the Kindle version on Amazon. I guess I'm old school but I want a physical copy of the book not an electronic version. Is a paperback or hardcover book going to be available? If so, any idea when? This may be stupid but aren't the first reflection points determined by the listing position and speaker placement? Do you establish your listening position and speaker placement then add treatment at the first reflection points. If you do that, would that not change the sound and you have to do the setup again which may change the first reflection points. See the circle I'm talking about. I may be overthinking the whole situation that's why I need the book.
I agree you need all the diffusers you can get may as well start with the Root cause...
Oh damn never looked that far ahead how you tell the happy clam that's it no more furniture and no rearranging stuff.. ya got it! So much for the happy clam. Theory.
On your web site I don't find under products "music" for the CD. Thanks.
Paul suggests books as a cheap diffuser. Same Paul publishes his book on Kindle. Love the irony.
Yeah better buy them while you still can. I will say I dont miss having to get rid of the wifes stack of paperbacks at $8.99 a pop but good hardbound I can see saving like good vinyl.
So, the link to the cd is 404 :/ Pliz fix
Paul or anyone that knows....which model lavaliere microphone do you use to make these terrific videos? Great sound!
The book we hear so much about is nowhere to be found on Amazon!
I think PS audio is missing a trick here. I mean they supply the Amps, Pre, Power, Speakers (soon), Cables etc and now there is going to be Pauls book on how to set it up. They even supply the music. There is one very important piece that is crucial to getting the best from Hi Fi and that is the Wife! How about a PS Audio approved Wife?
Hi Paul
Can you add the name and link of the book/audio cd in the description?
panel made the differents for me :)
Best thing you can do is pull speakers away from the wall - and that probably hits the lowest acceptance reading on the WAFometer known to mankind. (Though perhaps these days it should be PAF; P4partner, and personkind...)
for a good room setup guide go to newrecordday . The partner will however have to compromise and allow the speakers and listening position to be dragged into the room, not slammed to the front and back walls! Don't give that up, it can never sound right.
Are clams really that happy, and how do we know this?
Just how happy IS a clam, and how do we know they Are that happy?
We might be projecting our own ideas on them.
Maybe they are actually all deeply depressed.
Then again, I suppose a clam doesn't have much to be depressed about.
That all depends on how much procreating and recreating is happening. Ya think?
dont forget drapes and curtains
I'm sorry but does someone have a like to the CD? I have looked all over at www.psaudio.com and can't find it anywhere.
I can walk into someones house and totally change the sound of their system as well. Might be for the worst but I can do it!
How ? Are you on hi fiber diet ?
Nothing wrong with buying a pack of dampening tile you know the foam works really good and it takes the echo out of a room come on Paul get with the program!! I love ya Paul, your crazy!!!
Dude the question sent to Paul was about wife acceptance factor 👍🏾 it wasn't about single guy's living alone who can go nuts on room treatments (probably making the sound worse than better unless done by a accoustic expert) etc lol.
Virtually no wife would allow their husband to use dampening tiles in the living room 🤦🏾♂️🤣
Paul I have to meat you, I just think I'm on the same wave length as you, and you really remind me of my friend who now now in deceased. Awite Paul I'm finna halla at you in a meinit.
I was listening to my stereo so loud I think I got tonight tits
proof read....
Do you know if them roast history chikins at Walmart be good?
@@georgemoraleswork lol
How should one send a question to Paul?
What guide?
try spay on cork
I am old school and prefer my books in physical form. Went to Amazon and ur book is only available in digital form. Wa-wa-waaa...
He's cheap. He doesn't have to pay a printer.
I agree! I want the actual book not a digital copy. Paul's book should be available in both digital and an actual book for the old and new school audiophiles. Why can't Paul's CD be available in combo with the book?
NO BOOKCASES!!!! Even with books in them they are resonance chambers that very well might add a nasty Permanent bass issue. Any 4 or 5 sided unit WILL make resonance issues.
If the wife chooses flowery cushions, you get to make a choice of your own. If she chooses flowery curtains, you get to make a choice of your own. If she chooses the colour of the paint, you get to amke a choice of your own.
So big amp, big speakers.
or..... show her the name on the mailbox
There is a wonderful company in the UK & US.. GIK Acoustics (I'm sure there are others in your area). I am using them myself, they have an online system with a simple CAD type design system that allows you to draw out your room, then fill in the questionnaire and they will email you back with solutions. I am awaiting my first delivery from them of 4 panels with colour coordinated fabric for the wall (First reflection points)... Great people, very helpful and communicative..
I'm from Scotland 🏴 there is better more affordable options than GIK Acoustics 👍🏾
UA Acoustics and Perfect Acoustics are both cheaper while being superior quality 👌🏾
@@C--A
Additionally, DIY treatment is affordable, easy, effective, ... best of all one can employ whatever acceptable aesthetic you like.
@Lloyd Stout Wow I am shocked at that Lloyd, The guy I have been communicating with has helped me understand Speaker Boundary Interface Response, Bass Trap LF response including Full Range - Range Limiters and Hybrid Absorption / Diffusion. How to deal with Slap echo, Room Modes, First / Early reflection points...QD 7 Diffusers etc etc through various guidance articles and videos... It has been a real journey of learning..
@@uksteve43
I too have nothing but good things to say about any interactions I've had with them.
I know a very happy clam😜
Is the sound off, add more speakers.
Still think you all should put your systems in normal rooms with normal set up and if there is still a issue use tone controls.
Without proper room treatments you will never let your investment reach its full potential,furniture is a start but ridiculous to mention if your serious about sound get a book on acoustic treatments and learn,I have seen this mans room with those great infinity speakers and that room is ridiculously untreated and also too small for them, it’s stupid to have them just to brag that you do,if any room needs to be treated properly it’s his 🥴
So, you've been to PS Audio and heard these speakers in action then?
You completely misunderstand WAF. This is the process you should follow. First you set up the room speaker placement sofa replacement etc to give you the optimal results. Then you convince your partner that the room setup is the way it has to be. If she loves you she will be happy with it. if she doesn't love you then it's time to find someone who does.
*BULLSEYE*
WAF is way overrated IMO ...🤜🏼
Or you could get a GF instead of an F and live alone and just have her for various form of ephemeral enjoyment!
That poor push cart can't take it anymore!
Wife Acceptance Factor means a lot of things to a lot of people. It could mean your wife would be very pleased if you fullfilled her wish of performing with her band in front of 50,000 people. 🤔
I hate the term WAF. It works on the premise that all audiophiles are men, married to women, and that their wives don't also enjoy or engage in their interests.
@@gotham61 True, however it is a very real issue some audiophiles need to consider.
yes, rug, plush (non leather) seats.... and heavy CURTAINS placed symmetrically around the room. even if there isnt a window at each location.
Rewatch the video carefully this time 🤦🏾♂️ This video is about WAF (wife acceptance factor) so no one with a wife or partner who lives with them is going to place curtains all the way round the room on every wall 🤣
@@C--A , no one said *all the way* around the room, silly.
just keep things symetrical. if theres a window on the right wall....give it a curtain.
even if there isnt a window on the left, give it a curtain anyway. this will balance both the audio & the visual.
_all the way around the room_ ....hehe
@@googoo-gjoob Are you stupid it doesn't matter if it takes up two walls, three walls, four walls 🤦🏾♂️
I'll repeat rewatch the video with your ears open. No wife would ever let her husband put curtains on the opposite wall from the windows 👍🏾🤣
If you're going to make a suggestion then make a plausible WAF suggestion. Not something a single guy living alone might do 👌🏾
@@C--A , im talking about 20% of the room. chill Winston, chill.
Try tapestries i/s/o curtains.
Is that a room heater you're leaning on? Get a room correction mic and download some correction software and away you go. Anything less is a crapshoot. Be warned, your wife will hate you when you are done with the new decor.
I find it unfortunate that WAF is more of an issue than HAF.
then life must be difficult for you
@@googoo-gjoob The point is that audiophiles are near 100% men. It has nothing to do with me personally.
I wonder what kind of man would put his interior designing over his wife’s stereo system... LOL
@@graxjpg Lol, yeah hard to imagine.
The wife might well be happy to go out and buy new soft well filled sofas and new rugs and pictures and all the other things wives just love to pick up ... the room may well have perfect acoustic conditions .... BUT the wife always ends up dictating ( yes !! It's true ..) where the speakers and sub are placed !! The left channel speaker goes behind the sofa over there in the corner .... put the right hand speaker over there .. behind the door !! You can put that funny looking cube thing over here and it'll make a good table for visitors ... does it HAVE to be attached to that cable .. MMM..??? Now DONT you dare move them ...they stay just where they are ....they look ugly !!
If you want to have a happy marriage 😂
The fast answer is to get rid of the wife.
Just get speakers that go against a wall or corners problem solved
Depends on your decor but changing screens are good at for first reflections especially lining the back with quarter of an inch of natural wool fleece you can move them to suit your room
Dude didn't you listen to the video 🤨 The question asked was about treating reflections with wife acceptance factor 👍🏾
99.9% of wife's aren't going to let you put up ugly changing screens (called room dividers here in the UK) filled with wool 🤦🏾♂️😂
"The single biggest problem with EVERY SINGLE home setup, is setup"
"I can walk into ANY room where a person has their hi-fi setup, and within moments make it sound like a different system."
So you're basically saying that you're the world master, and NOBODY else is as good at system setup as you? Seems a bit much.
Get a wife that likes real acoustic treatments. That's how.
This, yes
WAF? My tip of the day is use drugs or divorce her.
Your kidding ! ! ! ! ..WAF?? ... that means something different in the UK ... You want to treat your room with hot women in military uniform??? ... go right ahead :-p
Why wouldn’t I??
@@graxjpg I'd be happy -- take my mind off the oversized, prestige-overpriced equipment.. ..it was the Women's Auxiliary Force during WW2 :-p
... i think my brain works differently to other youtubers.
WAP
@@1sostatic wac.womans air corp. Doesn't matter they got half my money and all the clam. Guess who's in charge. Thus 2 ex wives.
Congress has rendered WAF obsolete. Now to be referred to as TAF, They Acceptance Factor. Just sayin’.
That just sounds like there's even more people in the house that has to accept you.
Or a non-binary acceptance factor. WTF?
Careful. In a few years the use of the term WAF will require jail time for not being politically correct.