Great shots Roger. I'm not a pro but have shot some amateur cricket & rugby with the EM-1 MKII & MKIII, with the MC14 & MC20 converters for cricket. It goes without saying that I covet the 150-400, but I was able to get great shots witht he Olympus system. For a sport like cricket, Pro-capture is a God send.
I would add that another advantage of greater DoF is in Macro. Bravo & thank you for this excellent video. I too use my OMDS equipment for much more than wildlife and landscape finding it wonderful in all genres once it is learned how to adapt to the demands of the situation. Also, good on you for pointing out post tweaks that enhance final image by minimizing shortcomings. It is worth noting that most (all?) great published images have been worked on in post production. It is part of the process. Finally, I would add the greater depth the field. It’s a bigger advantage than shallow depth the field because as you expertly displayed the background candy blur out and post… But remember, you cannot put objects in focus in post. Yes, FF could stop down but then they’d use higher ISO thus making more noise. Cheers
Hi, thanks for the very kind comment. I totally agree with all the points you make. There are so many advantages to M4T that I the the few small minuses are outweighed by the plusses . I have certainly took shot with the Olympus /Om System I would never have achied otherwise. Once again, thanks for the very kind comment. Its much appreciated.
More interesting than I expected. The increased Depth of field of the small sensor is a blessing or a curse depending on what you are shooting. Having used my Canon R5 for macro recently I really missed the extra DOF. As your images prove, there is no need to fear higher ISO with AI noise reduction but it does introduce another step in the workflow.
Thanks for commenting. I certainly agree where you say `blessing or a curse`. My feelings exactly. On balence though, for the majority of photography that I do, its a blessing. Its only when I occassionally do things like this , that I see the disadvantages. I also agree it means extra work in post processing, whcih I hate.
Dear Roger Good video, I have the same experience with sport photography., football and so on. Your remarks on blurry backgrounds corrected in photoshop as well as noise reduction in dxo or topaz are indeed no issue anymore. I understand the nature strategy that OM system is following, but the system is very capable to capture all photographic moments. Thanks for your contribution on this topic. Ton
Thanks for commenting Ton, and glad you enjoyed the video. I think people are surprised that M4T can be good for sport, and as you say, blurry backgrounds and digital noise are not longer a problem.
Excellent video Roger, you captured a lot of really interesting moments at this tournament. Thanks for taking the time to make this and providing very helpful information on indoor sports photography. 👍
Very well done Roger! Not only did you demonstrate your point that a micro four-thirds camera could be used for indoor sports photography but you educated us as to how to achieve goods results. PJI
Thanks Mike. I agree. I think the opening sequence was the best part of it . Not really happy with the second part where I show the pictures, but could not decide on how to make it more interesting ? I saw a video on TH-cam where they said the first 10 seconds of a video are the most important part - `the hook`. If you cannot get people interested in the first few seconds, chances are they will not watch it any further. I got the idea of the fast bit at the start from your `Starlings` intro on the video you made from pictures at my hide. I dont expect this video will get may views.
Great content. I think you are one of the very few photographers who actually show that the OM-1 mark ii can do quite well in sport photography also. One thing I’m very curious about this OM-1 mark ii version is that is there any improvement on the human face detection? OM system has moved that into subject detection with all the others ? Has human detection improved at all or is it just a re group of this detection into the subject detection area ?
Thanks for commenting. To be perfectly honest, I have not really tested out the human detection seriously. I did try it for this event, but after a while I found I was getting just as good, if not better results, with it switched off. I initially tried with people detection and all focusing points activated. Because there were often people in the background, the autofocus may not have been as responsive as with it switched of ? I found that rather than using all focusing points selected, I just used ` large` , and this worked best.
Great video! I'm convinced if OM ever did a 75mm 1.2 PRO and a 150mm 1.8 PRO prime lens, there might be an event/sports photography niche they could fill while simultaneously fulfilling some niche outdoor situations.
Thanks for the kind comment. I did take a few pictures with a borrowed 45mm F1.2, and the extra light that F1.2 gave was very useful. The trouble was 45mm is not long enough for this sport. As you say, a 75mm F1.2 would be a fantastic lens for indoor sport, as well as a 150 F1.8. In hindsight, I should have borroed the 75mm F1.8, but easy to be wise after the event. Unfortunately, I dont think they would sell enough of these lenses to produce them.
Thanks for the very kind comment. Its much appreciated. To be perfectly honest, I have not really tested out the human detection seriously. I did try it for this event, but after a while I found I was getting just as good, if not better results, with it switched off. I initially tried with people detection ,and all focusing points activated. Because there were often people in the background, the autofocus may not have been as responsive as with it switched of ? I found that rather than using all focusing points selected, I just used ` large` , and this worked best.
Thanks for another very interesting video, although not something I'm likely to photograph (indoor sport) it does show more of the capabilities (and limitations) of M43. As you say, modern post-processing can fill or improve a lot of the gaps.
Cheers Phil. Its not something that I photograph regularly, but I think it helps us as photographers, if e now and again try other genres of photography.
Thanks for commenting. I am glad someone asked that. I should have mentioned it in the video, but I forgot. To be honest, I tried it with all focusing points selected, and `people` in the subject detection. Strangely, I found I got better results switching it off. (which surprised me) In the end I just used `large` selection area and this worked best. Maybe because there were people in the background it hesitated before locking on ? I dont know to be honest.
Bearing in mind your comments on the image quality compared to FF, do you think you would have actually got any better images than those you showed using an FF camera? Especially considering you would be using an 80-300mm F2.8 lens the size and cost of which would be considerable. Anything less and you would start losing the DOF advantage
Very interesting comment Bob. As you say, the equivalent full frame set up would be considerably more expensive. If buying new, my current set up would cost me just over £3000. If I bought the Canon set up it would cost me £17000. I have a very good friend who photographs Table Tennis professionally, and he use a Canon EOS R5, and the 100-300mm F2.8 lens. Its a bit too heavy for him to hand hold for long periods, so he shoots using a monopod. I shoot hand held because the system is so light. To be honest, he does get better pictures than me, and that is firstly because the full frame throws the background out of focus, and secondly because he is a better photographer than me ! 🤔 In truth, I think a full frame is more suited to this type of work, but I think the OM1mkII is better suited to bird photography, and landscape.
@@rogerhance5883 It might be interesting to let your Canon friend try your OM1 mkII and the 40-150 f2.8 and get his impressions and also compare his results. You shouldn't belittle your own abilities - the photos you showed are quite something.
@@boboneill1828 Thanks for the kind comment Bob. I know him quite well, and for the next tournament I may get him to take a few shots with my set up as comparrison.
Vous pouvez être satisfait du résultat. Même les balles sont bien net. Bravo! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can be satisfied with the result. Even the bullets are very sharp. Well done!
Merci pour le très gentil commentaire Philippe. Un peu différent de mes vidéos normales sur les oiseaux et la nature. C'est toujours bien d'essayer d'autres genres de photographie, et même si j'ai fait beaucoup de photographie de sport dans le passé, c'était lorsque j'utilisais des reflex numériques Canon. Encore une fois, merci pour votre commentaire. Content que tu aies aimé.
Great shots Roger. I'm not a pro but have shot some amateur cricket & rugby with the EM-1 MKII & MKIII, with the MC14 & MC20 converters for cricket. It goes without saying that I covet the 150-400, but I was able to get great shots witht he Olympus system. For a sport like cricket, Pro-capture is a God send.
Thanks for the kind comment. As you say, ProCap is a god send. Not really done that much cricket,but maybe something I should have a go at.
I would add that another advantage of greater DoF is in Macro.
Bravo & thank you for this excellent video. I too use my OMDS equipment for much more than wildlife and landscape finding it wonderful in all genres once it is learned how to adapt to the demands of the situation. Also, good on you for pointing out post tweaks that enhance final image by minimizing shortcomings. It is worth noting that most (all?) great published images have been worked on in post production. It is part of the process.
Finally, I would add the greater depth the field. It’s a bigger advantage than shallow depth the field because as you expertly displayed the background candy blur out and post… But remember, you cannot put objects in focus in post. Yes, FF could stop down but then they’d use higher ISO thus making more noise. Cheers
Hi, thanks for the very kind comment. I totally agree with all the points you make. There are so many advantages to M4T that I the the few small minuses are outweighed by the plusses . I have certainly took shot with the Olympus /Om System I would never have achied otherwise. Once again, thanks for the very kind comment. Its much appreciated.
❤ I love the video I use my for sports also as well for all types of photography
Thanks for commenting. Its much appreciated. Without any doubt, the M4T system is good for all areas of photography.
More interesting than I expected. The increased Depth of field of the small sensor is a blessing or a curse depending on what you are shooting. Having used my Canon R5 for macro recently I really missed the extra DOF. As your images prove, there is no need to fear higher ISO with AI noise reduction but it does introduce another step in the workflow.
Thanks for commenting. I certainly agree where you say `blessing or a curse`. My feelings exactly. On balence though, for the majority of photography that I do, its a blessing. Its only when I occassionally do things like this , that I see the disadvantages. I also agree it means extra work in post processing, whcih I hate.
Dear Roger
Good video, I have the same experience with sport photography., football and so on.
Your remarks on blurry backgrounds corrected in photoshop as well as noise reduction in dxo or topaz are indeed no issue anymore.
I understand the nature strategy that OM system is following, but the system is very capable to capture all photographic moments.
Thanks for your contribution on this topic.
Ton
Thanks for commenting Ton, and glad you enjoyed the video. I think people are surprised that M4T can be good for sport, and as you say, blurry backgrounds and digital noise are not longer a problem.
Beautiful image. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍
Thanks for the kind comment. Much appreciated.
@@rogerhance5883 My pleasure.
Super video Roger and all good advice thanks.
Cheers Phil. Sports photography is not something that you would asscoiate with M4T, so it was good to do a video showing it can be used.
@@rogerhance5883 I am off to brands hatch this friday for the British super bikes and will be using the 40-150 f2.8 and converters.
great shots , thanks Roger
Thanks for the kind comment John. Much appreciated.
Excellent video Roger, you captured a lot of really interesting moments at this tournament. Thanks for taking the time to make this and providing very helpful information on indoor sports photography. 👍
Cheers John. Very kind og you to say so. 👍
Nicely done. Thanks!
Thanks for the kind comment. Glad you liked it.
Many thanks for another excellent video packed with fabulous photographs and advice for anyone attempting sports photography indoors.
Thanks for the kind comment Alison. It is much appreciated.
Another interesting and informative video Roger.
Thanks David. A little bit different to my normal stuff, but its nice to try different areas of photography.
Very well done Roger! Not only did you demonstrate your point that a micro four-thirds camera could be used for indoor sports photography but you educated us as to how to achieve goods results. PJI
Thanks for the very kind comments Paul. Glad you liked it. I think that a lot of people think M4T is only suitable for nature.
I very much liked the opening sequence. Fast and slick and should get viewers to watch longer.
Thanks Mike. I agree. I think the opening sequence was the best part of it . Not really happy with the second part where I show the pictures, but could not decide on how to make it more interesting ? I saw a video on TH-cam where they said the first 10 seconds of a video are the most important part - `the hook`. If you cannot get people interested in the first few seconds, chances are they will not watch it any further. I got the idea of the fast bit at the start from your `Starlings` intro on the video you made from pictures at my hide. I dont expect this video will get may views.
Great content. I think you are one of the very few photographers who actually show that the OM-1 mark ii can do quite well in sport photography also. One thing I’m very curious about this OM-1 mark ii version is that is there any improvement on the human face detection? OM system has moved that into subject detection with all the others ? Has human detection improved at all or is it just a re group of this detection into the subject detection area ?
Thanks for commenting. To be perfectly honest, I have not really tested out the human detection seriously. I did try it for this event, but after a while I found I was getting just as good, if not better results, with it switched off. I initially tried with people detection and all focusing points activated. Because there were often people in the background, the autofocus may not have been as responsive as with it switched of ? I found that rather than using all focusing points selected, I just used ` large` , and this worked best.
Amazingly good images
Thanks for the very kind comment. Its much appreciated.
Great video! I'm convinced if OM ever did a 75mm 1.2 PRO and a 150mm 1.8 PRO prime lens, there might be an event/sports photography niche they could fill while simultaneously fulfilling some niche outdoor situations.
Thanks for the kind comment. I did take a few pictures with a borrowed 45mm F1.2, and the extra light that F1.2 gave was very useful. The trouble was 45mm is not long enough for this sport. As you say, a 75mm F1.2 would be a fantastic lens for indoor sport, as well as a 150 F1.8. In hindsight, I should have borroed the 75mm F1.8, but easy to be wise after the event. Unfortunately, I dont think they would sell enough of these lenses to produce them.
I think you and the camera/lens setup was awesome! Did you use face detect for these shots?
Thanks for the very kind comment. Its much appreciated. To be perfectly honest, I have not really tested out the human detection seriously. I did try it for this event, but after a while I found I was getting just as good, if not better results, with it switched off. I initially tried with people detection ,and all focusing points activated. Because there were often people in the background, the autofocus may not have been as responsive as with it switched of ? I found that rather than using all focusing points selected, I just used ` large` , and this worked best.
@@rogerhance5883 Good to know. Thanks.
I think the photos are great! If you don`t need the photos for work because of the effort involved in editing them, then they are excellent.
Thanks for the kind comment Richard.
Very interesting Roger.
Thanks Richard
Thanks for another very interesting video, although not something I'm likely to photograph (indoor sport) it does show more of the capabilities (and limitations) of M43. As you say, modern post-processing can fill or improve a lot of the gaps.
Cheers Phil. Its not something that I photograph regularly, but I think it helps us as photographers, if e now and again try other genres of photography.
Nice: I'm curious -- did you use subject detection?
Thanks for commenting. I am glad someone asked that. I should have mentioned it in the video, but I forgot. To be honest, I tried it with all focusing points selected, and `people` in the subject detection. Strangely, I found I got better results switching it off. (which surprised me) In the end I just used `large` selection area and this worked best. Maybe because there were people in the background it hesitated before locking on ? I dont know to be honest.
Bearing in mind your comments on the image quality compared to FF, do you think you would have actually got any better images than those you showed using an FF camera? Especially considering you would be using an 80-300mm F2.8 lens the size and cost of which would be considerable. Anything less and you would start losing the DOF advantage
Very interesting comment Bob. As you say, the equivalent full frame set up would be considerably more expensive. If buying new, my current set up would cost me just over £3000. If I bought the Canon set up it would cost me £17000. I have a very good friend who photographs Table Tennis professionally, and he use a Canon EOS R5, and the 100-300mm F2.8 lens. Its a bit too heavy for him to hand hold for long periods, so he shoots using a monopod. I shoot hand held because the system is so light. To be honest, he does get better pictures than me, and that is firstly because the full frame throws the background out of focus, and secondly because he is a better photographer than me ! 🤔 In truth, I think a full frame is more suited to this type of work, but I think the OM1mkII is better suited to bird photography, and landscape.
@@rogerhance5883 It might be interesting to let your Canon friend try your OM1 mkII and the 40-150 f2.8 and get his impressions and also compare his results. You shouldn't belittle your own abilities - the photos you showed are quite something.
@@boboneill1828 Thanks for the kind comment Bob. I know him quite well, and for the next tournament I may get him to take a few shots with my set up as comparrison.
Vous pouvez être satisfait du résultat. Même les balles sont bien net. Bravo!
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You can be satisfied with the result. Even the bullets are very sharp. Well done!
Merci pour le très gentil commentaire Philippe. Un peu différent de mes vidéos normales sur les oiseaux et la nature. C'est toujours bien d'essayer d'autres genres de photographie, et même si j'ai fait beaucoup de photographie de sport dans le passé, c'était lorsque j'utilisais des reflex numériques Canon. Encore une fois, merci pour votre commentaire. Content que tu aies aimé.