Battery backup power
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มี.ค. 2016
- This is not the best way but it is one of the least inexpensive ways to power your refrigerator and other household electronics when the power goes out in your home. This is also a great way to bring some power to your campsite or event so you can watch a movie or two and power your laptop and ipad over night
Look I will tell you right now that this is the BEST VIDEO that I have ever seen about a cheap to buy battery back up that has all the performance that I am looking for.
I do NOT know why every body else makes battery backup sound SO COMPLICATED. This video proves that it is not complicated and with just a few things you can have a really good inexpensive battery backup power. I just hate these ass hole's carrying on about watts amps and all the other things. This is what we really want just a plain speaking person to tell us how to set up a simple Battery Backup Power Unit. Thank you Scott Lloyd you have saved my sanity.
7316bobe your welcome
@7316bobe, I completely agree with you.
Thanks for the video. You kept things simple.. Not a whole lot of talk about wattage, amp, and other stuff.. Plus you didn't focus on power tools and other silly stuff.. During a power outage or grid down, my focus will be on refrigerator, lights, fan maybe or heater, a tv, etc.. You spent majority of the video testing real home stuff instead of talking & trying to impress the world with your knowledge on amps & watts.. So Thank you!!
I completely agree.
One of the best videos I have seen on battery drain!! Good production quality, all points well explained, this video is what youtube learning is capable of. I was particularly impressed with the demonstration of battery wattage drain in terms of percentage. This is a video I will be recommending!
Felt like I was in a masterclass, so informative thank you! cheers!
This is a great way to start out learning how it works.
This is enjoying to watch you as your going through the process making the system work with a basic understanding to what we would be getting out a battery as I had no idea what a battery could power
I keep Ice-packs in both compartments to assist in a prolong power outage! Battery backup would benefit and help extend the time for when the battery dies.. icepacks then kick in! Great video! thx! .
Worth every minute of watching your demonstration, thanks.
WooooW!! That was soooo imformative. Excellent just Excellent. Thank you so much. Of course, I only watched the video because my power is out, lol.
Shaka Zulu thank you
Awesome tutorial. Living in Florida we need to be prepare for outages. I like the battery/inverter approach. I have back up generators but the gasoline consumption can get expensive. In preparation for 2020 storm season we changed all incandescent lights in the house to LED bulbs where we can get a 100W replaced with a 100W LED that only uses 15W so with your approach I can basically have all my lights on at home at once as an example.
Again thanks a million for your advise and test!!
Great video, Scott, thanks!
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I have had my batteries for 4yrs now, because I use a 10 gauge wire. The thicken The Wire running from my solar panels to my solar charger. I have 4 Walmart 12 volt batteries.
Thank You for the great video and information
You Did Some Really Great Test!! Great Video!!
Scott,
I think that the spacing between the plates and the bottom of the battery case determines the longevity of the battery. Once the plates start shedding material that collects on the bottom of the cells, that will cause the shorting of the plates. "Sulphation" is not a factor when there is at least an inch of space between the bottom edge of the plates in each cell and the inside bottom of the case. Once the plates are shorted by the material that falls off the plates, then the battery is DEAD. You could agitate the battery and drain the electrolyte and excess material out of the battery, fill the battery with distilled water and put it on a slow charge to cause the sulphated plates to release the sulphur from the plates back into solution, you may regain a certain amount of capacity, eliminate the shorted cell. No magic powder or battery conditioner will do this, so you waste your money on such "reconditioning kits" or adding Epsom salts. These remedies do not work. The specific gravity meters will tell you the health of your battery (mechanical or electronic). Always keep your battery' s top clean so that the "Rust Dust" from other cars do not cause a high impedance short between the posts that will drain your battery when not in use and causing your alternator to work harder to recharge the battery. Clean the top of the battery with a soft cloth and distilled water, do not use deionized or tap water as they are full of metallic compounds that you do not want leaking into your battery. "Maintenance free" batteries still have filler caps under the sticker that you can open to fill the lost electrolyte, and make your battery last longer. With the prices of premium batteries being $100+, a little maintenance now and then will save you money in the long run.
I have been wanting to install a 300 watt portable solar panel , 30 amp charge controller, 2 deep cycle batteries and 3000 watt inverter to my toy hauler for boon docking. I wanted to know if that was going to be enough power for a weekend (running a dorm style refrig, lights, 32" flat screen tv w/dvd, coffee pot, fan, phone charger, 12v LED outside lights and a electric skillet for cooking). You confirmed my suspension greatly with confidence. Glad to see someone use illustrations of various items pull watts and for how long. I found the wattage chart you made very useful, and if you don't mind, I would like to use that idea for my camper. I would agree with using a pure sine wave power inverter, specially when it comes to sensitive electronic items such as your computer and flash drive reader. But great video over all and found it very useful. Thanks
Stephen Enfinger drawing anythng close to 3000w on 12 volt batteries would need super thick cables into the inverter. for a couple of batteries i would go for a max inverter of 1500w. Drawing 1500w through an inverter would cause the inverter to shut down on low voltage alarm in just a few. minutes.
Awesome real life video. Thank you so much, I learned a lot
Scott Thank you so much for this video. I am going camping with the Harbor fright 100 amp solar panels 2000 watt inverter and the same ever start battery THANK YOU
mary wright
I know that those Harbor freight solar panels are not the greatest but I want to know how they worked out for you.
The only thing I recommend to put them inside the heavy duty box with cover with fans to cool them down
You probably already know this, so please don't take offense to what I'm saying..Anyways, most of the consumer electronics these days actually Run on DC, which is why they all come with the wall wart..That said, you can buy a DC/DC converter on Amazon or e-bay, among others, that will convert the 12VDC in your batteries to whatever voltage you actually need.
The power outputs are listed on the adapter of whatever appliance you're using..
Bottom line is, you save battery power rather than wasting power by using your inverter to convert 12VDC to 120VAC, then back to DC again for the appliance.
Just offering you a suggestion, this is what I have done to get the most out of my batteries.
If you want to go that route and need some suggestions, let me know, I'd be happy to point you in the right direction.
Enjoyed the video and you got a heckuva deal on that inverter!
Take care,
Dave
David I bought one of these deep cycle batteries at walmart and have a 750 watt inverter.. Is that the right type of inverter to use and is that different from the DC/DC converter you mentioned. Also would you recommend an inline fuse from the battery to the Inverter? Thanks
Very informative, thanks
Interesting, thank you for your video
The current versions of this inverter is sold by HF as a Jupiter unit. As far as I can tell, only the label has changed. Earlier Centech units were a little different in design.
Very impressive sir thank you so much
This is what i want to see. thanks
Hey, hey!! I got that same lap top, I love it. Good vid.
Great video. I would have liked to have seen that microwave running.
Microwaves really struggle to cook food on a modified sine wave inverter. My estimate is you need 20% more time to cook when using modified sine wave inverter.
When using a pure sine wave gas generator 30 seconds. That turns into 45 seconds with the inverter.
@@djdavidj5531 plus they don't have legs
Great video. I learned a lot. Where did you get the data for the battery chart you made.
I was thinking of getting a couple of car batteries, building a vertical rack (out of 1x2s & 2x4s) to be able to wheel around with a two-wheeled moving dolly and have an inverter mounted to the wooden rack.
Im looking to do the same thing but in a box or crate that can open and close that can be part of the furniture
Switch the lights in you refrigerators to LED to save power.
Very good thought.
I realize its been 4 years since you posted this video. Before I even saw this I had six of these same Ever start 29 DC deep cycle batteries in parallel charged by three 300 watt solar panels on the roof. It powers an office with a desktop computer, lights and TV. I never tried to power the large refrigerator in the kitchen because I never thought the system was powerful enough. Now I realize I have more power than I thought. I never let my batteries go down below 60% and they are now going on 4 years old. You should use a full sine wave inverter to run any motors however.
I thought they only lasted for 2 years as the warranty suggests. I also see that Walmart sells H8 AGM batteries and are backed with a 4 year replacement warranty. Which of the two do you think is better for solar application? The Maxx 29 DC or the H8 AGM from Walmart?
nice setup how Amp those deep cycle battery have may i asked
The problem is: A good inverter with the batteries is much more expensive than a generator. And the batteries discharge themselves. I think a small generator is more suitable for a backup system. Batteries make sense if you want to use solar power.
That's very true. But a generator you use once and then it sits there for god knows how long until you need to use it again. And then when you need it during an emergency, it doesn't want to start. I'd rather use something like this and keep the batteries topped off using solar panels and then use the power all year long.
Yeah, but that's a one-time investment to give free power for years. A generator requires gas to give power every day which will far exceed $400. The solar set up can be used every single day. It's much nicer to have the solar setup. And when an emergency happens, there's no panic. The backup system is already running.
A setup like this is good for temporary power. During a hurricane, I lose power and there is no sun at the time. This is great if you want to power your router, modem and computer or charge devices during the storm. The day after is when solar would come in real handy.
I like the ones I picked up too, they work good! I have the same ones, but I only paid $87....
Replace your frig light bulbs with led bulb. LED bulbs work better when it is cold.
cynthia386 true. Yes, I need to change that out
I am trying to hook 2 deep cycle batteries to a 40 amp inverter with a 13 amp generator to all run at the same time. The generator does not have a charge controller I will have to get one
I got al.ost the same set up so what would the battery read at 50percent???
Good job 👍
So what recharges the battery?
Hi Scott how many amp hours is a 350 cracking amp everstart.lawnmover battery
I have had things die trying to use them on a modified sine inverter.
Well it sure looks like you did not die. Try connecting your self up to your sine inverter and give every body a break.
how about desktop computer set? pls reply
How long does it take you to charge the batteries using the charger you showed?
How long will it run one refrigerator?
If u keep recharging the 2 batteries will you still need 4?
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I noticed that you have 2 batteries hooked up to the inverter. If I follow your instructions, would I be able to hook up 6 batteries instead of 2 ? And, if I did that, would I have longer battery life or would I just send too much power to my appliance and destroy it by burning the circuits ?
how long battery last?
they are required to put cranking amps on all lead-acid battery per Fed law
Very informative
Nice video bro
help how I can charge the battery. thank you so much for the video it is help full.
he shows how to charge the battery at the very end
There are inverters that have chargers built in. Check out eBay. Search for 12v inverter charger.
One trick i did to take the slack off the battery is to put 10 ice cream empty containers full of water and freeze them in the big freezer. 2 tubs of ice last 24 hours on top of one another and even then there was just under hakf a block of ice left. Here in brazil power goes of 6 times a year for 2 or 3 days so 10 blocks does 5 days. Better use inverter for smaller electric stuff tv included
What powers the battery charger?
If you would have used both batteries in parallel would the discharge have been equally distributed to both batteries?
Yes. Negative to negative positive to positive doubles your battery length, positove to negative doubles your voltage.
You could use a battery charger to charge the battery while you are using it
Yeah, but you'll probably still need a genny to power the battery charger.
I would go with a pure sine wave inverter, my freezer would not work with a modified sine wave inverter.
Thanks
The question is where can we find the device part that can turn it on automaticaly when the power cuts off. Because we don't care if it is only the router but cannot afford a fridge that is not running when we are not home and cannot turn it on manualy
U need pure sine wave inverter
I thought the batteries were meant to last 2 years. Aren't Walmart H8 AGM batteries better since they have a 4 year warranty?
how are those batteries treating you? they got them in stock at walmart
nice video
How long will it last if I am going to use it for my laptop, a 24 watts light bulb and wifi at the same time?
Emmanuel Billones it should last over 6 hours
That is not an affordable set up, but a cool set up. Used batteries and used inverter for less than 50$ now that's affordable
can we use a second battery to charge the first one and vice verse?
You can drop one on your foot and then drop the other one on your other foot and vice verse. This works.
Since they batteries are connected, do you charge each one individually or just one and the other will get charged automatically?
Ontop of your microwave tho?
i have 48 volt inverter need 4 12 volt cycle battery need about 100A deep cycle battery to run my 48Volt inverter
Is the inverter pure or modified sine wave
Harbor Freight- its a modified sine.
Ok tar, from what I understand ya have to be very careful what you use it with.
Get a emergency light and take out the battery BOOM free chargeable power
Don't need Trojan battery I use an 100 amp hour battery AGM by windynation from Amazon 12 volts works great but it's 202 dollars
what regenerates the battery ?
Chris I have a plug in charger that will do a trickle charge at 2amps, and will also do a faster charge at 10 or 30amps. I charge them up a couple times a month.
Any battery that has a CCA rating on it is junk for solar, they will not last but a few charges. Also modified sine is junk, will killmost electronics.
I can tell you what state you live in
Don’t use extension cords on fridges.
Why?
Miguel Ángel Valderrama I did it once and it burned the motherboard. I remembered reading from the manual "not to use extensions"
Why didnt you use the Watt meter on the surge strip for your test? kind of useless test without it, maybe one more test to see how long all that runs on one charge
You can get a dell backup battery with more power for 150$
neato! but what part of this did you actually make? lol
Take two batteries it’s better to have too much than not enough
29:30 plug the Kill A Watt now. lets see total Watts.
We dont want to know about watts. We are practical people here just wanting a SIMPLE battery back up. So BUG OUT einstein.
Deep cycle lead acid battery is not down to 20 %. More like 50% and proven you only get about 35%.
Best way to completely ruin a battery in 30 minutes or less
in that price better buy a generator
yes, my dude, but we can't keep on using gas because of climate change.
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This real deal, you did a real good Expository, this will help me a great deal in my research, Thank you so much. But how long can the inverter work on continuous operation? please assist with the question - raphola@gmail.com
If I took my kids camping, I'd want them out enjoying nature, not sitting in front of a babysitter in a box. To each their own, that's just my opinion. I'd be more worried about lights and heat/ac than anything.
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@@The_Defiant_One pretty sure you meant to say fuck you. Grow a set and speak your mind.
Too many children these days don't know what to do with themselves if they're not being constantly entertained.
Sorry buddy but without Beer in your garage fridge you have no credibility...
So what is the Battery Voltage drop during these tests? That is what is important. During a power outage its your Fridge and lights thats important. Just buy a generator.
You could do all the wattage tests from the house outlets. Good demo of the "Kill a Watt" meter though
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USSBB62, If you ever have to spend a lot of time on a generator, ( weeks not days ) you would find a good use for one of these things. After Irma, I could run up to two hours on a single battery charge before it shut down. That was two hours of peace and quiet. If I wanted it to run longer, the truck was out there sitting at idle with the jumper cables to the inverter battery. Truck is far quieter than a generator running at 3600 RPM. Daytime running of the generator wasn't a problem as you couldn't hear it when operating the chain saw or pole saw.
Now I have solar panels hooked up to it so they can keep the dual batteries ( Marine deep cycle Exides ) charged and can run about 5 hours at half load at night.
Agree on the P3. It does not do well on the modified sine wave that this inverter puts out. That is why it reads lower that expected. An example is when the fridge is on. The P3 shows a certain reading while the VOM and meter I have hooked up to the inverter show another. The P3 also draws 10 watts just by itself and gets warm on modified sine wave. Another P3 running on a one tube A/C unit on commercial power or pure sine wave inverter never gets warm. The P3 and fridge shows about 240 watts pulled while the inverter meter shows 202 watts. The inverter meter also shows that it is running a .67PF. And about 3 amps at 117 volts. Test meter agrees with inverter meter.
PS: If dad were here, he'd use BB63 as his sign in. He was on it from 1947 to 1949.