WHY SEGA Has Been INCONSISTENT with Sonic Games - Discussion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I talk about the people behind-the-scenes who've made the Sonic games, and Why they should be UNITED from now on when they make future games.
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"They're bringing back everybody" "Sonic Forces is gonna be the Sonic game we've been waiting for" ...well this video is outdated.
To be fair, this was made 8 months ago, back when the hype was real.
Sonic Forces was still good so shut up
Seeing this today... oh boy... you must be just a bit disappointed in Forces.
Not A Cat
Me 2
From what I've heard, the higher ups in Japan have a clear disconnect with the America team.
They'd order something to happen, the America team would make an attempt to understand and do their job, then the Japan team would get angry and demand something different.
The language barrier alone makes development difficult, but the fact that the Japanese team is so disconnected from the American one is the nail on the coffin.
they need to do what they did in the adventure games
No, Sega America are the ones that tried to stop, Sonic the fighters from even Happeni. Their reasoning was, "Sonic is a kids game. Having him fight isn't Kid friendly".
Stupidest shit ever.
So, it's not just the fanbase that's divided. Wow, the state of Sonic's a lot more unstable than I thought.
As for the ending question, they should remain together, that way they'll have more of a focus.
Sega needs to keep the. creators of Sonic Mania so they can keep making 2D Sonic Games and keep the rest of Sonic Team together to make the 3D games.
artpoint.paradox yeah!
True
and then we get sonic forces 2.
Pretty sure Miyamoto wasn't involved in Super Mario Land as well
Lol I'm just talking about the consoles mostly.. except Mario 3D Land. That's what you were referring to right?
Mario Land is different from Mario 3D Land lol
Ohh yeah, I remember Mario Land. Yep, wasn't talking about that lol
If I remember correctly, Metroid creator Gunpei Yokoi directed SML, didn't he?
+sleepyeyedplumber he did
3:47 OK.....Sega is clearly trying to make orcas the scariest thing on the planet. How is that possible lol
Once again, I had to re-edit the video cuz of an error lol. Anyway it's up again, and hope you guys enjoy the video! Very interesting topic
Black sheep? WHERE?! Sonic blast? Sonic Labyrinth? Sonic 3d blast? Sonic R? Those are games that are bad. Sonic cd is okay. It's not a bad sonic game. I'm just saying.
Yeeeeeeeah. Forces had a lot of red flags before it even released.1.Dark Sonic game.2.Green hill zone has awful level design and I saw the gameplay of the entire stage before the game released and I was not impressed and the music is awful in that stage.3.Fist bump.
Dark sonic? Where?
Its gets worse than Naka leaving, I did some research on the sonic wiki to to answer the question how is Sonic unleashed a passionate game with out Naka. Well it turns out the director Yoshihisa Hashimoto Is not only a programer on Sonic advance 2 but he is Hedgehog Engine. Sadly he left Sega for Square Enix, and Sonic Unleashed is the last Sonic game to be made by sonic team USA. That two Developers that Sega lost. 3d Sonic so far is about as dead as Metal Gear.
Aaaaaand... Forces was made by the B team. Please let the next A team game be good!
Actually it's made by the A team, B team is console exclusive only and as we know it, Forces is on all consoles, even on the Switch.
Sonic Lost World is on PC too you know
Rayan Zoury umm I already knew that
SEGA should show the world "The Super-Power of TEAMWORK!"
BD
I really want a heroes remake😭😭😭
11:37 Yet none of the returning members from Unleashed/Colors/Generations were level designers. One came from Lost World, and the other two had no experience with the franchise prior to Forces...
black sheep is a negative term sonic CD is still my favorite sonic game to date the fact that it's different from the rest of the 2D sonic games is what makes it so appealing
Black sheep isn't a negative term. It just refers to something that stands out from the others, no matter whether it be good or bad. So Sonic CD IS the black sheep. But that doesn't mean that it's bad.
If you look at society nowadays being the black sheep isn't necessarily a nice thing to be I'm looking at this from that point of view
+Supirorguy Because it was released AFTER Sonic 2. Sonic 2 came out on 1992. Sonic CD came out on 1993.
Shame people had such hope in Forces. Oh well, looks like we won't have a good 3D sonic game until Yuji Naka returns, which i doubt'll happen. Fasten your seatbelts folks.
Its get worse that Yuji Naka leaving, I did some research on the sonic wiki to to answer the question how is Sonic unleashed a passionate game with out Naka. Well it turns out the director Yoshihisa Hashimoto Is not only a programer on Sonic advance 2 but he made Hedgehog Engine. Sadly he left Sega for Square Enix, and Sonic Unleashed is the last Sonic game to be made by sonic team USA. Thats two Developers that Sega lost. 3d Sonic so far is about as dead as Metal Gear.
If Forces turns out to be a great game, then there's no reason to keep splitting the teams if they could all just join and make 1 great game over 3 mediocre ones. That and get better writers for the international versions that can write something other than jokes.
Gary Tomás Constanza Martinez someone get Ian Flynn now!
*Cough Ian Flynn should be the writer.
Gary Tomás Constanza Martinez it wasn't necessarily that there were many teams it was that there were multiple games in development and there were too many people all working on multiple different projects at the same time.
Guess how Forces turned out: shit
Gary Tomás Constanza Martinez I'm watching this in 2018 and Forces turned to be shit. The game has gotten mixed to negative reviews and people who enjoy the game say it's bad.
Can sombody share this with SEGA on Twitter or Facebook?
Why?
Smashlander02 so they’ll know
Smashlander02 Like, duh. Why else?
Forces: Step in the right direction
Also forces: Paying for super sonic
Diego Hernandez-Trujillo you can get it free though.
man... if Forces is the best they could do with 4 years and max staff, maybe its time for new leadership
forces was not a step in the right direction. it devolved the boost gameplay and 2d gameplay and the level design was a line.
Based on other comments it sounds like Forces wasn't made in the way that the maker of the video thought.
Not anymore.
I'd like to see Christian Whitehead and his crew take a crack at recreating Adventure style gameplay.
Daegan Noel That's asking a bit much, those guys, looking at their track record(fan games included), have only worked on Classic Sonic style games, never a 3D game. Their speciality is 2D Classic action games, just like the Genesis trio.
KuraiJinx That is precisely why I think they could try their hand at such a task. If they can master what gave Sonic his wD foundations the next logical step is the third dimension. Obviously they would be better off with help from the rest of Sonic Team but it would be interesting to see.
I'd say they could bring in the folks who made Sonic Utopia and Hedge Physics, since they've made 3D games and such.
Not to say the Mania Team should be put in the sidelines, I'd totally be all for another game from them. But given their resume, I do believe they'll stick to 2D games.
Not to mention, those seem to be their preferred style of game overall.
KuraiJinx Mania has 3D special stages now so it could be possible.
Welp.
I'll take three diverse and creative games like Riders, Secret Rings and Unleashed over one big unified project like Forces, which looks pretty underwhelming so far, any day of the week. Team splitting is amazing for diversity and I vote for that.
i think in development for sonic unleashed, all the different teams of sega and sonic worked together for once (sega japan, sega america)
Forces was still good, just saying
We need Yuji Naka back
Too true
@@Sydney_Angelyt Its get worse that, I did some research on the sonic wiki to to answer the question how is Sonic unleashed a passionate game with out Naka. Well it turns out the director Yoshihisa Hashimoto Is not only a programer on Sonic advance 2 but he made the Hedgehog Engine. Sadly he left Sega for Square Enix, and Sonic Unleashed is the last Sonic game to be made by sonic team USA. That two Developers that Sega lost. 3d Sonic so far is about as dead as Metal Gear.
Why can’t all of em work together
I really hope we'll see the teams stay united. But first we have to see how Forces turns out.
Your Video gave me more hope for Forces.
Kyoko Sonic Forced me to become Cynical about the series.
Tbh, Forces is painfully mediocre.
Most disappointing Sonic game ever. So much wasted potential in a Sonic game.
hows that hope
Before release:
"In the distance I see a light of hope, shining!"
Post release:
"I'm holding onto every bit of hope."
They got the band back together, and they still decided to give us Sonic Forces as we know it today. No wonder Sonic fans are dropping like flies . . .
they should stay United. I believe that their best games are when they are all working on it
seems like they always add an extra gimmick to make the game different, but it ends up screwing the game over.
Shadow The Hedgehog: Gun & Edgy gimmick screwed it over.
Sonic Unleashed: Werehog screwed it over
Sonic Colors Wisps (not entirely) brought some negative points
Sonic Lost World: Parkour & "interesting' level design screwed it over
While games like Sonic Adventure and Adventure 2 had no gimmicks, and Generations played it safe.
Sonic Team should learn that a fantastic plot is enough to differentiate your game from others and a hindering gimmick to make it different isn't needed.
(I personally liked Colors, Unleashed and Shadow but typically they get worse reviews.)
Forces looks promising and for the future I hope Sonic Team can move forward more (Stop rehashng GHZ and stop playing on nostalgia) and that they will make the supporting characters playable in the future
Ayeeron - [Aaron] SA1 and SA2 was mostly gimmicks what are you talking about? Amy, Gamma and Big (especially Big) were made to extend playtime. They play nothing like Sonic, Tails and Knuckles. SA2 had the mechs. It makes sense for Eggman but it makes no sense for Tails. Not to mention that the mechs don't play like the other characters. The reason why a lot of 3D Sonic games had those gimmicks to extend playtime. Heroes for example, would've been fine if it was only team Sonic and *maybe* team Dark.
Too bad Forces tanked
Guns in SHTH were good tho.
I loved secret rings and black knight
Forces in the right direction?
HA
i guess it sucks to be wrong about forces, huh?
I don't like the separate team thing . Getting together would be better.
OK,this problem NEEDS to be fixed. Things would've been so much better, way past cooler if Sega/Sonic Team wasn't so divided
I think they should all get together and make the best game in the history of gaming
And then Sonic Forces came out.
Seeing this video makes me feel bad. :(
Watching this video now. And damn to bad Sega lied about or would you say hid the truth about sonic forces actual devs
"I think it's going to be a great game". You could not be more wrong.
I'm a longtime fan of Sonic ever since playing his first game on the Genesis at five years of age. And I'll still follow him alongside Mario to this day, as they are my two favorite game franchises of all time. Sonic 3&K is my favorite video game; Colors and Generations are really good Sonic games; I have a soft spot for the Adventure games, Heroes, and Unleashed; and Lost World is on my list of games I like but everyone hates. I'm certainly looking forward to Mania and Forces no matter who's in charge. (I'd wager Forces will be the Twilight Princess of 3D Sonic--something that, after trying a wholly different gameplay style, is going back to refine what worked in the past, including the much acclaimed boost-to-win formula.)
“That’s why I’m really excited for sonic forces”, whoops
Ok thank you for making this video for the split team info, but just cut to the chase. A lot of sonic fans need to know this.
If they stay united they might make another game like sonic 2
shun nakamura is the producer and writer of the sonic forces story.
"This is something Nintendo has in spades,"
Don't you mean...
ACES!
hah. hah. hah.
12:04
Hehe. Funny
I feel like if Rise of Lyric or Lost World never existed, Sonic wouldn't have that big of a stigma!
The adventure games along with heroes and shadow weren't that polished even though they had Yuji Naka but since Izuka came on the games have gotten a lot more polished so I don't know why some people hate him so much.
i just miss when tails was playable and when he was a badass and briave now he just a wimp i know its 3 years late i just want a ture 3d sonic game that plays like the adventure game with imporvemnts as time gos by and aslo a story that has the same tune has the adventure games
Its get worse that, I did some research on the sonic wiki to to answer the question how is Sonic unleashed a passionate game with out Naka. Well it turns out the director Yoshihisa Hashimoto Is not only a programer on Sonic advance 2 but he is Hedgehog Engine. Sadly he left Sega for Square Enix, and Sonic Unleashed is the last Sonic game to be made by sonic team USA. That two Developers that Sega lost. 3d Sonic so far is about as dead as Metal Gear.
But Sonic Forces wasn't... very... goood....
Check the upload date of the video -_-
No no no no no no no no
This was uploaded before the game came out.
I come from the future, and trust me,
Sonic forces is probably a C-team project
Sonic MANIA did better,
Maybe Sega should stay united with the fans?
Also Super Mario Oddesy was fantastic, did what Sonic forces did wrong with development choices
the painful irony of people not expecting mania to be better than forces cuz of an unfamiliar team and forces being better because of the original team working on it (most of) when in reality mania was amazing and forces was still flawed (not bad, it was fun but the story and level designs should've had more thought into them) but I think they should stay united since the controls and 3D gameplay of forces was honestly one of the best we've had in a modern sonic game for a while.
together it causes less division in the fan base and the games are higher quality also it attracts new people to the fan base
apparently Sega and Nintendo partnered to make sonic lost world and when I saw footage of someone playing it reminded me of modern Mario
“The A Team” lol
Sega's greatest weakness bar none has been rushing games for holidays... and, it seems, this odd absence of key team members... but if this is to be believed, BOTH of these have been corrected in Forces? A good omen indeed...
I love that they are getting everyone that they need to make a great game back again and thanks I never new their were different teams
I think after Sonic Forces and how much that game sucked. I think Sonic Team should become so they can focus on 3D Sonic and let other developers handle Sonic spinoffs games
*Sonic Team: Mineline Sonic games
*Evening Star: Classic Sonic Games
*Sumo Digital: Sonic Racing Games
*Relic Entertainment: Sonic Riders
*Sanzaru Games: Sonic spinoffs like a Sonic Party
*Atlus: Sonic RPG
*AM2: Sonic Arcade games
*Arc System Works: Sonic Fighting games
There's a reason why Mario games has been consistent. Is because Nintendo had pillars for Mario
*Nintendo EPD: 3D Mario games, 2D Mario games and Mario Kart
*Intelligent System: Paper Mario
*Square Enix: Super Mario RPG, Mario Hoops 3 on 3, Mario Sports Mix, Fortune Street
*Hudson Soft then NDCube: Mario Party
*Sega: Mario and Sonic series
*Bandai-Namco: Mario Baseball Games, Mario Kart Arcade GP games
*Next Level Games: Luigi's Mansion and Mario Striker Games
*Camelot: Mario Golf and Mario Tennis
*Alpha Dream (R.I.P): Mario and Luigi RPG series
Again if Sonic Team became one again and Sega lets other develop Sonic games then publish it under Sonic. I think this should be the only time that Sega should copy Nintendo as they should take notes from Nintendo if they want to keep Sonic consistent in quality
12:04
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
OH GOD
I CANT BREATHE XDDDDDD
Same
I'm on time, better make a joke!
Being "early".
Demon of Speed So old it hurts.
Doonu Duwii
I don't understand, is the format old? Or is the "being early" thing old?
Demon of Speed It's obviously both.
Actually, Yuji Yekawa as the Modern designer, not Iizuka
Aw really Colours In a B Tier hell no that is an s tier right there
Stan Lee only gets all the credit now because he's the only one still alive lol.
Nakamura?
Nakamura!?
NAKAMURA!?
IT BE SHINSUKE NAKAMURA!!
Not even a big fan of boost Sonic gameplay but this Sonic '06 mod looks incredible
I hope the tema stay all united, because the story of Sonic Forces is pretty good, and the grafics where all right!!
But only 3 people ( 2 with no experience in sonic games, and 1 from sonic lost World) were creating the levels.
WE NEED TO REUNITE AS ONE AND JOIN THE MOTHERLAND, MAKE SONIC GREAT AGAIN!!!
1:06 And then Mania came along
I think the sega team should keep working together make the Sonic games so they can good again.
I loved Sonic CD the most out of all classic Sonic games. Didn't know it was the black sheep :D I always thought most people who played it rated this the highest :D
Yuji Naka left Sonic Team to form his own Game Studio named Prope
Its get worse that, I did some research on the sonic wiki to to answer the question how is Sonic unleashed a passionate game with out Naka. Well it turns out the director Yoshihisa Hashimoto Is not only a programer on Sonic advance 2 but he made the Hedgehog Engine. Sadly he left Sega for Square Enix, and Sonic Unleashed is the last Sonic game to be made by sonic team USA. That two Developers that Sega lost. 3d Sonic so far is about as dead as Metal Gear.
Oh I feel bad Sonic Forces wasn't good because i was gonna buy it as a Christmas present then i looked at the review scores and said, no just Mania
I for one just want a full open 3D modern sonic game like adventure while having a spin off classic sonic series as well to please the 2d fans.
A team:
. Sonic 1
. Sonic 2
. Sonic 3 & knuckles
. Sonic adventure
. Sonic adventure 2
. Sonic unleashed
. Sonic generations
. Sonic mania
The B team:
. Sonic colors
. Sonic forces
. Sonic lost world
. Sonic R
The C team
. Sonic 06
. Shadow the hedgehog
. Sonic and the secret rings
. Sonic labyrinth
Luis Campos96 I expect to see more replies to this
The trio Advance games are also A team.
L X96 screw you Colours is a top a team
Where would heroes go
Comments:1
Sees 2. wtf?
the thing that scares me the most about forces are the returning wisps, i hope they dont break up the flow of the gameplay like in lost world and are 100% optional.
I swear I thought of transformers together we stand together we fall 😂😂
8:10 no. While Izuka may have had cool ideas in the past, which is what lead to Sonic Adventure, that doesn't excuse Izuka for the mindset he has NOW in the present. He's the one who's obsessed with nostalgia and is why we have green Hill zone popping up over and over again and why the Mania Team couldn't have 100 % new levels in Sonic Mania
hes a sell out then he needs to go back to his roots
Watching this after Forces came out is actually kind of funny
That was a nice video, though about the stories while Nakamura had some involvement, I think you forgot to mention Akinori Nishiyama and Shiro Maekawa who were the scenario writers of several Sonic games, including the Adventure ones.
I think Yoshiaki Koizumi was the director of Super Mario Galaxy. I'm not 100% sure, but I think I read it on Wikipedia.
What still pisses me of months later, is that they seem to still have the writers going about in forces. (someone correct me if i'm wrong btw) I like how things are getting more intense & promising with Infinite's trailer... and then you see the cutscene... Nice as it looked, that cutscene looked like it's still the same water downed writing from colors to now, and I hate it. You already have the *Sonic Boom tv show* (which is cool). So why not get new writers that suited the balance/music Unleashed had? Only you know.... no werehogs this time.
The director of Super Mario Odyssey got it right on his first try making a Mario game.
I'm loving this Wave Ocean with actual good level design
Oh if only you knew what would come...
I personally think they should be together as one group making good games. Or maybe have one group do the main sonic games and another group do the spinoff games. That way it would make things easier.
Wow, this video is actually kinda right. One of the points in the video that made me wonder is when you stated that almost everyone that has worked on previous Sonic games got back together to create Sonic Forces, which is awesome, and it made me think. there's a rumour going around, stating that Sonic Forces took 1 year to create, and the Hedgehog Engine 2 took 4 years, which could be true, because if it actually took 4 years to create Forces WITH the people that have already worked on previous titles, you'd think that it's a bit odd that Sonic Forces is so mediocre, however, if it actually took 1 year to create the game, then the results of Sonic Forces' creation are accurate to the time spent on it by people who know a thing or two about Sonic. This could be why Sonic Forces lacks, but then again, they only had three level designers, so :/
@@Water90435 not colors
just lost world
"Sonic 3 & Knuckles is one of the best, if not the best, classic Sonic game."Thank you, Sonic 2 is great, but I loved 3 & Knuckles so much."That's why Sonic CD is considered the black sheep of the classic series..."How dare you. Sonic CD will forever be my favorite classic game. I'm re-playing it right now!"...But I thought it was fine."Rage simmers down.
Sonic CD is actually my 2nd favorite Classic Era Sonic game ;)
Nice Intro
Fire team C and make team AxB
Amazing video as always. Sonic team should keep one team together. People want good story, good graphics, more ideas, more realism. Sonic Adventure and Unleashed are examples of a good story (Personally I like sonic 06 and it's story too), and forces better be long and epic. This is truly the year of sonic
I agree with you Sega should stay United and have other companies like Dimps handle Spin offs so that they could experiment more with other spin off games and not have to worry if A game isn't released every year
Standing United after the fight
no... secret rings are cannon sonic says it him self in sonic generations
Jonatan Aaby when
"Not much different from genies in magic bottles, or rescuing aliens from an interstellar amusement park."
Everybody likes to crush the Werehog sections in Unleashed, but for me, they were the best part of the game... Another game that suffers the same fate is Heroes... man I love those games and, for me at least, they are waaay better games than Forces, Boom or Lost world.
Man can they bring back Unleashed and Generations.... that’s all i want man
I thought the team that made Secret Rings & Black Knight made Colors
I love the wisps, don’t get me wrong. I can see the wisps being a mainstay. But if this is what’s happening, it ruins Sonic Colours for me.
Yh, I feel like they should keep everyone in the team together if they want to attain the quality of Sonic games. Their work really shows in Forces, and I'm *super* excited for it! That's the power of _Teamwork_ (Funny how Sega's games teach morals and life lessons and they don't follow them)
Sonic Forces only had a year of development time. The rest of the time was spent on concept art.
cant forget about the concept art of tails fighting choas what the fuck happned?
I PICK together the best wand to do make sonic great again
If only your sense was actually the outcome;-;
4:03 what? I loved that game. Sure, it was one of my first Mario games but still
I mean for what I can see sonic the hedgehog is such an adorable and awesome character. He's a really cool guy. And I get it you know? You wanna do more with him than just grabbing rings. But you probably should at least keep the basics you know? Cause I mean come on. Sonic really DOES look awesome holding a sword in his hand. Or a Sonic gun game; no yeah I totally get it. And I mean the werehog? Look to each his own but I think that beast looked so cool. Like I mean he's like a 30s cartoon character when you think about it. He's got the gloves, the shoes, he's an animal. I mean come on Sonic looks awesome. I'll admit I even thought of making a fangame called, "Sonic Zoo" which you turn into a random animal whenever you hit an enemy. Just makes you look different; doesn't really do anything.
So yeah. No I totally get it. But the thing is what you should do- well you don't _have to_ do it- but what you might want to do is keep the physics from sonic 1 and then just add stuff to the game. So you can make a 2d game, a 3d game, Sonic Boom, turn him into a werewolf, have a story with a romance between him and Princess Elise, whatever you want. Everything else is extra: level design, enemies, obstacles, music, intended audience, anything else is extra as long as you keep the physics from sonic 1. Then you can do whatever you want.
For example: Knux Chaotix. It's sonic 1 physics basically + a ring tether. It attaches to characters together. And it works. Ofc it could be fixed but you get the point. And yeah the game didn't do too well but it's a start. Or here's a better example: Sonic Advance 2. All these characters have the little abilities like flying or ball bouncing or swinging a hammer but they all have basically retro sonic physics. It's a little different but you know.
Cause I really really really like Sonic Boom. I love all your ideas Sega but you're kinda doing them wrong. You can keep the scarf, make Amy a little more mean and a little less nice, give knux a chest lift, do whatever you want just as long as you keep sonic 1's physics. At least to me. Everything else is extra just as long as you keep sonic 1's physics. And then level design- we'll cross that road when we get there.
This isn't a sonic game but it's a good example of where you might wanna start from: Fire Emblem Echoes- Shadows of Valentia. What is it? A do-over of an old game called, "Fire Emblem Gaiden." It took that game and just added stuff to it. AND LOOK HOW AMAZING IT IS! As a matter of fact it's even better than the original. I'm not kiddin. Gaiden got 7.8/10 or so. Echoes got a 4.5/5 all across the board. Search it up I'm not kiddin. So am I saying take ACTUALLY LITERALLY Sonic 1 and give it more content? No, take it's physics and make a game on that. Give the player Sonic 1's physics; as long as you do that you can make whatever you want, that's what I think.
Now I'm gonna do something I've never ever done and celebrate sonic. Keep on running Sonic because Sega is amazing and It's Still Thinking!
And here's some random ideas for a sonic game:
Half hedgehog, All Robot
Sally Sonic Red Rose
Sonic for a day
Faster than the fastest thing alive
Sonic XXL
Mighty the Armadillo
Sonic Boom: World Blue
Fists of Dread
Tazmanian Sticks
Jaded Purple
Sonic 15
Robotnik
Hearts of Soleanna
Modern Sonic the Hedgehog
Tails Torcher
Metal Sonic the Hedgehog
Chaotic Dragon
A Deeper Recollection of Angel Island
Megaman Sonic
Super Maro Bros. the Hedgehog
SEGA Sound
Sonic Maniacs
Chemical Planet
Sonic the End of Time
But what you want to do is also keep the "Classic" Sonic, the retro sonic. So make Sonic Forces and also Sonic Mania. So if ppl aren't feeling the new type of game then they can go back to Sonic Mania the old game; I like to call it "Pinball" Sonic.
Would splitting up into different dev teams help make this happen or even better? Or maybe make it worse? Should SEGA all work together to make their games? I want them to but who knows? As long as they can keep the basics and also make a retro game on the side then maybe we wouldn't have too much of a problem.
Ofc now that's essentially what they're doing now. All they need to do now is fix up forces and we could start to be seeing something good here.
*By the way when you said "Another ball game" I kinda giggled because I like puns like that. Cause like you know how sonic rolls like a ball
nice video, but wich character mod did you use?
I prefer the writing of the Sonic games from '98-'06.