Archery FAQ: Nocking point on a horse bow?

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  • Should there be a nocking point? If yes how to locate the correct position? These are are topics of this video. If you have any further question, please write in the comments. Thank you for watching.
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  • @AdolfosTube
    @AdolfosTube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As I am new to archery I am watching many of your videos and learning a great deal. Thank you for all the great videos Armin!

  • @mikeorick6898
    @mikeorick6898 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Yes, you can do w/o one. OTOH, I put a nocking point on all my horsebows. If you are nocking w/o looking at the string, some visual/tactile reference is handy. I usually mark my horsebows w a visual/tactile reference on the handle too for those that do not come w a designated strike plate/area (like Akosbow v Ali Bow). With bows like that, the first thing I do is determine the best place to grip, rest the arrow against the bow, and nock on string. It's easier to be consistent that way. Yes, you can do w/o all that, but I do not. ;)

  • @PCSInternational
    @PCSInternational 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great information! This will save my hand! I have scars, scratches and calluses from rough bases of the feather fletchings over years of shooting with the 90 degree nocking point. I had to make a leather guard to protect my hand. This is going to help so much! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • @Adam-kv6zg
    @Adam-kv6zg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    i tried this yesterday and it is the best information i have ever heard about archery. it prevents the arrow from hitting your hand!! thank you! i was skeptical at first but it works!

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      thanks for watching Adam and shoot straight :)

  • @teanawright667
    @teanawright667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the best information and video o have been able to find. Thank you!!!

  • @davidharrison6615
    @davidharrison6615 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    first time i have watched your videos . first class and the accent is first class as well 😄 . please keep up the great work .

  • @dimebarification
    @dimebarification 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video, very informative.

  • @ijaxon6675
    @ijaxon6675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've found a brass nock on a horse bow, using a asian thumb draw may cut your finger if you aren't careful, so make a one of serving string.

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always better to have a softer material there

  • @mauriciom8430
    @mauriciom8430 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah I did not know this but then when I shoot my styrofoam box as to emulate a hunt and I move around what I notice is that the position of the arrow is always important to lift the arrow I did this instinctively since I'm learning from your videos. Many things are becoming instinctive and I'm becoming more bonded with the bow and arrow. 1. My arms getting use to the draw weight and technique 2. Thumb becoming more immune to the string weight almost no pain now. 3. Learning to feel proper positioning but will make a video of my instinctive shooting and you can correct me.

  • @JC-rb1nc
    @JC-rb1nc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent information as usual, exactly what i wanted to know. thank you.

  • @wildysnow547
    @wildysnow547 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you and so good information. Beginner and everyday is a new adventure learning.

  • @AnthonyDibiaseIdeas
    @AnthonyDibiaseIdeas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the excellent lesson.

  • @yiuhhsinggou3666
    @yiuhhsinggou3666 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, I am getting a new bow next week, and this prevents me from scratching my hand! (Was doing compound bow).

  • @GunCollector007
    @GunCollector007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great information!

  • @wanderingsoulenterprises5564
    @wanderingsoulenterprises5564 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, thanks!

  • @paleolithicgamer3411
    @paleolithicgamer3411 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really appreciate the information ...thx !

  • @Jazzman-bj9fq
    @Jazzman-bj9fq 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome vid, really appreciate the information.

  • @nakotaapache4674
    @nakotaapache4674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks, this is i am searching for.

  • @abeerhussni1130
    @abeerhussni1130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to set the nocking point on Mamluk Archery Şimşek Hybrid S+, Turkish Bow

  • @msrvfx
    @msrvfx ปีที่แล้ว

    So if you have no nocking point and no consistent grip location you have two elements that cause inconsistency. If shooting fast you have no time for consistent shooting.

  • @ambidextrousarchery
    @ambidextrousarchery 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤔 What are your current reflections? Does Austrian Armin concur with Malta Archery Armin?

  • @robsarchery9679
    @robsarchery9679 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great to know.Thanks

  • @stevehuffman7453
    @stevehuffman7453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Related question: How do you determine which limb points up and which points down, or doesn't it matter on a horsebow?

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mostly with the description somewhere on the bow :)

  • @CharlesSmith-ye3fv
    @CharlesSmith-ye3fv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question I’m going from a 30 pound bow To A 45 or 50 which is the best thank you USA Tennessee prepper,Mongolian horse bowl

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      many good ones out there, depends on your budget

    • @CharlesSmith-ye3fv
      @CharlesSmith-ye3fv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found one for $60 on eBay brand new Mongolian bow ,45 poundsThank you I love you videos Tennessee USA prepping.

    • @JeffStan_56
      @JeffStan_56 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just bought an Alibow Turkish horsebow for $70 US plus shipping. Beautiful bow.

  • @eqlzr2
    @eqlzr2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm shooting my Nomad Warriors horsebow Mediterranean style (split finger) because I prefer that and I'm more accurate. It's a more satisfying shooting experience. However, now I'm suffering from finger pinch and have a very sore spot on the arrow side of my right index finger thumbnail where it contacts the arrow, particularly at full draw when the finger pinch is the worst. I solved it today by shooting 3-finger under, however now my arrow doesn't want to stay on top of my bow-gripping hand properly unless I kant the bow a bit to the right. Any suggestions for keeping the arrow against the bow and on top of my hand so that I don't have to kant the bow? Many thanks.

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only is what is called french release. I did a video a few weeks ago

    • @eqlzr2
      @eqlzr2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks. I'll try it first on a french fry just for fun. ;-) BTW, for those interested, the vid is titled "Archery FAQ: French Release - what and how?" It does look like it will help!

  • @אוריהפלד-ש3נ
    @אוריהפלד-ש3נ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tried without nocking point at the beginning, but then I realized I can't really put the arrow at the same position, especially when I don't look at it. I have Turkish fiberglass bow and I made nocking point just like shown in the video. Now my shooting is much better

  • @hollick44
    @hollick44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you know what side is up on a horse bow? I see the curve is slightly different..

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With many it does not matter, some have an arrow pass on it other a writing which should be readable

    • @hollick44
      @hollick44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArminHirmer thank you so much! I’ve learned so much from your channel and will become a patreon soon!🙏

  • @m.ikhsanvanbanjar7001
    @m.ikhsanvanbanjar7001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank U

  • @foyfoy9440
    @foyfoy9440 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My arrows click on the string and doesn't fall off, but it slides up and down the serving. How should I fix this?

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it causes you trouble, put a nocking point on it

  • @aimarlangley4156
    @aimarlangley4156 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can it be same with thumb draw?

  • @rokbow2523
    @rokbow2523 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello friends, I beg your help, I'm flying to Turkey to buy a Turkish bow, a horse bow, but I do not know where to buy it, where is the place or shop of the arches there, please if anyone knows to tell me, thank you very much!

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi maybe ask Murat Oezveri, he is in Turkey and deep into archery. You can find him on TH-cam or facebook

  • @letssee8397
    @letssee8397 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    #800 n.n

  • @abseil76
    @abseil76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Without a nocking point you will never progress. You will have to continuously check both your bow hand and string hand position. Without a fix nocking point the arrow can slide up or down on the string upon release so it will never be accurate. It doesn't take long to find the approximate best bow hand position which then you can use as reference for installing the nocking point on your string. After that it's just a few shots fine tuning to find where the perfect bow hand position is. That you can mark on the bow and you're all set. You're welcome.

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends, I have some bows without mocking point and shoot them without looking very accurately and precisely:)

    • @abseil76
      @abseil76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArminHirmer Yeah, shooting them or shooting them with constant accuracy is two different things. I've been shooting traditional bows for 20 years and learnt from respected Hungarian archers a lot and I've never seen a good archer without nocking points. It's simple physics really, a properly set nock point is a steady start point, without nock point it's just a gamble that you will shoot consistently at the same spot.

  • @LogicJab
    @LogicJab 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Horse Bow" sounds a lot easier to say than Asiatic composite reflex bows

    • @fintonmainz7845
      @fintonmainz7845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People can be so pedantic. Every archer knows what a horsebow is.

    • @dougyt261
      @dougyt261 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Asian bow is easier to say

  • @joshuakim4769
    @joshuakim4769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fletchings have been ripping my bow hand thumb apart. Gotta try this.

  • @abinyxx
    @abinyxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could watch you shoot all day, so effortless

  • @-----REDACTED-----
    @-----REDACTED----- 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting! I read that in korean traditional archery they have the following method of finding a nocking point: balance the string on your flat hand holding the hand vertically so that the pointing finger is up, pinky down. Then rotate the hand so that the inside touches the string and where your pinky touches the string there is the area where your nocking point is likely to be...
    (I am paraphrasing from memory here and also am still an absolute beginner, so please take what I said with a big pinch of salt).

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes I know, there are different methods. But overall it works like so :) thanks for watching

  • @dougyt261
    @dougyt261 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Koreans use nock marker on their horn bows roughly 2.5 inches higher than your hand.

  • @TheBUTOKUKAI
    @TheBUTOKUKAI 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good point. Actually just today, y set up the nocking point in my hungarian horse bow. Let’s try for some time and see. Thank you

  • @yngveellingsen3471
    @yngveellingsen3471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a very informative and helpful video. Thanks!

  • @CharlesSmith-ye3fv
    @CharlesSmith-ye3fv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m going to the 45 pound thank you USA Tennessee prep

  • @TheMrRaguel
    @TheMrRaguel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video as always.

  • @Beowulf975
    @Beowulf975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about putting a piece of tape or marking the handle for consistent hand placement and a another mark to indicate where the arrow should pass?( Am I not a Genius Armin)lol

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      whatever works for you

  • @Black_Kakari
    @Black_Kakari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hes so helpful

  • @lannyclavecilla3061
    @lannyclavecilla3061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have listened to your video several times and keep hearing "....simply slide the nock 4 to 7 inches up" from a 90-degree right angle setting (4:30). This can't be right but I swear that's what I keep hearing. Can you please clarify, how high above 90-degrees?

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the bow

    • @pdj2975
      @pdj2975 ปีที่แล้ว

      He says slide it up a 1/4 to 1/2 an inch up, sorry I'm a bit late

    • @lannyclavecilla3061
      @lannyclavecilla3061 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, when Armin replied that "it depends on the bow" I thought what bow has a nock point that high? Oh well, whatever it was a year ago and doesn't really matter.

  • @JohnLundSweden
    @JohnLundSweden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Armin, wish i could learn from you and go to your school in your country of archery.

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi. I have a patreon project with online tutoring if you want. Patreon.com/arminhirmer

  • @Charlie42003
    @Charlie42003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Armin why do you call your archery company Malta 🇲🇹 archery? Are you maltese?

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am german but the company is in malta

    • @Charlie42003
      @Charlie42003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArminHirmer Oh. Good to know. I am maltese that is why I wondered. But I live in Canada.

  • @tonyhind6992
    @tonyhind6992 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vids

  • @etharnos7097
    @etharnos7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have come to revisit this because I may get my first horse bow and I was wondering if I could use fishing shot for it.

  • @visamedic
    @visamedic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. I was just getting ready to question you. I’ve watched how you shoot, and I always see the arrow consistently higher on the string than 90 deg. I’ve shot compounds for over 15 yrs now and switching to a horse bow, and trying to go traditional is quite a change. I think I’m still gonna tie a knock in place, maybe not a brass one, just some serving string. Any thoughts?

  • @WereTeamBCT
    @WereTeamBCT 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you post a link of where you got that ambidextrous bow?

  • @elsaryakoci
    @elsaryakoci 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir. so useful information, you have solved the problem of mine by this video.

  • @adriaanvandenberg5013
    @adriaanvandenberg5013 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the helpful and easy to understand video!

  • @otavio.a.8.r
    @otavio.a.8.r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks for the information.

  • @thomasrobson6370
    @thomasrobson6370 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    after your video, the add that played was about an O.M.F.G. super modern compound bow that was of no interest to me.

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have no clue about these ads...

  • @Mr840126
    @Mr840126 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Armin, I have learned a lot from you, thanks as always! I wonder if you have any particular anchor point at all? I do notice you have always draw to some certain draw length when you do reviews, but it seems to me that you don't really touch anywhere on the face at all...

    • @Mr840126
      @Mr840126 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Somehow youtube recommend me your video 4 yrs ago, and of course I am asking an irrelevant question to this video's topic 😄
      Oh, found the answer of my own question in another of your videos😅

  • @torrodash709
    @torrodash709 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    does the arrow prevents thing works for thumb?

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      works fine for thumb

  • @jonoedwards4195
    @jonoedwards4195 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahaha, I just scored two very nice bargain glass Bows from Toparchery an I can't even tell which end is the top so Ive just been shooting arrows off them which ever way i pick Them up an I cannot find any difference, both shoot awesome an I'm loving My new never ending draw, if more People knew how sweet Asiatic arrow slinging was Armin.

    • @randyyoung5770
      @randyyoung5770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should be able to tell the top from the bottom based on the size of the loop on your bow string. The small loop should go on the top to my knowledge.

    • @ians1246
      @ians1246 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randyyoung5770 yes small loop goes to the top....err and the top is which end of this curved thingy magig both ends look the same.

    • @ians1246
      @ians1246 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just to say I have a lace handle on mine i know which end is which only because the loose end of the lace hangs down.....now wait a moment if I turn my bow round the lace thing hangs...down....arrrgh this is so confusing...

    • @jonoedwards4195
      @jonoedwards4195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ians1246 What if I said both loops were the same size? No dramas, Any Alfwit can serve anytime.

    • @ians1246
      @ians1246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonoedwards4195 i was actually responding, hopefully with humour to Randy's reply to your first comment ...no stepping on toes here just adding my tuppence worth.

  • @tridi888
    @tridi888 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    can u post about aiming teori and tips or how to aiming properly with horsebow (thumbdraw & rightside arrow)

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi. In this video I give a few hints, maybe it is already helpful. If not, let me know:
      th-cam.com/video/snW6x2Z_udc/w-d-xo.html

    • @tridi888
      @tridi888 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Armin Hirmer i've saw that vid before, but i'm still confuse, forgive me. i'm still in learning proses in horsebow archery, right now i aiming by using arrow shaft as guidance and shoot quite well. but my theacher say to use arrow point as aiming guidance, i've tried but got a lot of miss. what's your tips? i'm using hungarian horsebow #35

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      we don't aim at all, we look with two eyes to the target.