I promise man, listening to E Sermon is like staying up for a late night mix show. This is CLASSIC. To grow up in that area while the artists were moving and shaking! AMAZING!
These types of conversations only a true HIP-HOP purist can appreciate. No guns, beef, and a whole heap of tough tony talk just pure unadulterated true LOVE IN HIP-HOP for REAL. Salute to my boy E DUB and Math and The Squad for this offering.
Rakim made everyone change their cadence AND their style. It went from party raps to battle raps. From Flash and Melle Mel to Run DMC, LL, and Kurtis Blow, and then to Rakim [almost everyone after him was rapping like him or trying to be more serious like him with some exceptions]. Every phase of that evolutionary tree had a different style, different dress, different demeanor. These younger rappers (some of them) are so far away from the essence of rap and Hip Hop that they almost seem like aliens, like they have none of the original Hip Hop DNA in them. Eric Sermon is a legend. Glad to hear him speak the truth about his part and what he observed.
Hate it when people knock the young generation. Let them have their thing. You and people like you are not hip hop gate keepers. You don’t decide what they like. So just enjoy the old school and let these kids do their thing.
Word life! L went in. His flow was crazy. The thing about it, L kinda fell off at that point. It was after the Panther album and all these new school rappers had come out by 90. Also why Ls first line on Mama Said was “don’t call it a come back”. He really fell off in the streets, but that Rampage verse was the first shot.
@@willdieselpower Facts! Rampage and linking up with Marley Marl both lit that fire under him and made him hungry again. Then we got Mama Said Knock you out which was a classic (and my favorite rap album to this day).
I’ve said it many, many times, there is before Rakim and there is after Rakim. He’s the one MC that changed the art of rap the most-the art form not the business of rap, two very different things. Rakim is THE line in rap history where everything changes and that’s why he’s the real G.O.A.T.
#peace wow; I just wrote this: LL is the Liaison-Bridge🐐 between Before & After of "god-emceez" Before: Kurt Moe-Dee Caz Mel After: G-Rap Kane KRS1 Rakim
Fa Sho! Their was a seismic shift when Rakim came out with his rhyme style with rhyming across the measure, internal couplets, and everything else. There were a lot of MCs tossing their notepads in the garbage can and starting all over. 😂
It's between LL, Big Daddy and Rakim for THEE G.O.A.T.! LL and Big daddy are still out there killin it while Rakim seems like he's lost the energy. We all get old.
@@martinleon3145LL Cool J is better than Rakim. Look at LL Cool J status today and look at Rakim! I don't know why people be hating on LL Cool J, especially when he came out with the word goat first! Plus LL was able to rap in his era Rakim era and another era! Rakim mostly shined in one era.
Track is dope all over fellas but me and mines always loved E’s verse. Everyone was dope tho. All good to like any of the 3. That’s what makes great debates. Respect🫡
When Rakim was being played on the radio (Kiss FM and WBLS), even before Paid in Full came out, every time I heard him and Eric B. I sat up and took notice. No one sounded like that, did double and triple meanings like that. Every time I heard Eric B. For President, it just blew my mind. Then the album comes out, and its a straight up masterpiece. Rakim did the hip-hop equivalent of hitting a game-winning grand slam in the bottom of the 9thin his first big league at bat. Like everyone in the comments said, it was a seismic shift in hip-hop. I was only 17 when Paid in Full came out, and I was an hour away from the city up in Bridgeport, and even then I felt like hip-hop had gone up a level.
I’m from Miami, and we also felt it. I remember there was this older kid, who said he couldn’t understand RAKIM. It was at that very moment that I realized, that those who actually understood RAKIM were mentally superior to those that did not, or could not comprehend RAKIM. I still feel this to this day.
A silent night is a holy night 🤔fight for what’s right hypocrisy stand tall for all 🙏🏿you black you blessed we are the light the poor tour and star’s gifts galore 🦉♠️♾️
Rakim definitely brought in a new regime of rappers. I remember still listening to run dmc and LL and my friend who had moved away came back around the way and played rakim for us , I was like wow. I started listening to him and Kane from that point on. And Lord finesse
Matt Hoffa you need these hip hop icons on your future show. 1. Krs one 2. Kool g rap 3. Cool j 4. Nas 5. Queen Latifah 6. Mc Lyte 7.ice cube 8. Too short 9. Scarface 10. Young jeezy make it happen my guy for hip hop fans
Yo im driving home listening to this interview an its good one ofcourse. Its the green eyed bandit so i know its gonna be 🔥. But then, on the end Math got that banger🔥🔥🔥... sheez that ish made me pull over to find the whole track. Didn't know Math get it in like that
I’m 38 but every time I talk to a OG over the age of 46 doesn’t matter if they from East coast or South or mid west . They all say that RAKiM changed hip hops sound for ever.
Math your podcast is on fire for real keep up the GD content this Eric sermon interview taking me back to when I was a kid in BK listening to albums the GD old days
Soon as Rakim came out, everything instantly sounded old. Same thing happened when Guy came out, atlantic starr, midnight starr and the whispers shit died that day.
You telling it homie. Imma say it like this: Around 85, 86 Run and them was fading but then outta nowhere .. I start hearing this brother with the cadence, the monotone delivery, the superb flow coming outta every car, every radio station- Not knowing at that moment, Hip-hop just changed. President had dropped and Rakim was that dude.
You are 300% correct,, when Guy, Bobby Brown, Al.B.sure,& Keith Sweat came out R&b music became more hip hop driven, bass heavy, and very experimental with the grooves and melodies. Traditional R&B production from the 70s &.80s wasn't making the cut anymore 😂 New Jack Swing has now landed 💯
@@derneillwashington3091 Yep. You are correct. Just did a joint-to-sample mix and that was one of them. If It don't turn you On to So Watcha Sayin. Eric really laid into that track.
@@TheBulletzgottishow20 yep I read that in a Wax Poetics article I think. But he was the man in Queens. He has a TH-cam video of his song on there. Search it.
All I know is I went on summer vacation in '86 and Dana Dane "nightmares" was it. I came back from the Isle of Grenada and it was all all about "Eric B for President."It felt like the whole world changed..🌍
SERMON always been dope...Math please drop the intro song bro..got damn this been coming soon for months..respectfully put some new shit up to start the vids😂
The interview is Top Tier Classic stories of back in the days. Never knew parish & LL was going at each other on That rampage Son I just knew the song was dope af. The god Mc Rakim is some of my favorites rappers fav rapper.
That's not what I'm saying. My point is the rappers who came before him had a simplistic rap style for example Kurtis Blow & Run DMC. But after Rakim, no MC sounded like Run DMC anymore. He changed the way the MC rhymes...you can hear his influence in Eric Sermon, Nas, Jay-z, Slick Rick, etc...to this day his influence is still heard. He is your favorite MC's favorite MC. That's why they all pay homage.
LL was NUTTN to play with. Dissed EPMD on their own joint, Rampage (‘…here’s ya chance to advance, get in ya stance, I’ll shoot the holster off ya cowboy pants. Pure entertainment, tonight’s your arraignment, ya guilty, face down on the pavement. No holds barred, it’s time to get scarred, you and ya squad better praise the real God…’) He got BUSY on To Da Break A Dawn. He dissed, Hammer, Kool Moe Dee, Ice T AND EPMD (‘…All the wannabe sheriff’s is gettin shot down… gimme that microphone, I’ma show you the real meaning of the danger zone…’) If you listen closely, it sounds like was really enjoying it too.. 😆😆
Marley Marl said on "The Combat Jack Show" that when Ra was recording "Eric B. Is President" at his apartment, him & MC Shan were laughin' at Ra's style because it didn't have the yelling delivery of the early to mid 80's which was the standard.
@math I wasn’t raised on hip hop I caught on like 2001. I was born in Chicago in 87 I had 7 uncles. I was raised on “politics” n sports. I’ve learned so much on this show it’s crazy. 🙏🏾
ALL AROUND- MATH HOFFA FEAT HANZ
th-cam.com/video/zUWimjTRw6I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-uwGTaeTmiWFkmk5
THE GOD MC 🎤
“Is he our boy?” 😂😂😂😂 LL had niggas questions they friendships 🐐
😂😂😂😂
I promise man, listening to E Sermon is like staying up for a late night mix show. This is CLASSIC. To grow up in that area while the artists were moving and shaking! AMAZING!
Word on that money
Edub was that producer that had you boppin'. One of the greats!
These types of conversations only a true HIP-HOP purist can appreciate. No guns, beef, and a whole heap of tough tony talk just pure unadulterated true LOVE IN HIP-HOP for REAL. Salute to my boy E DUB and Math and The Squad for this offering.
Love this shit.
Exactly no coming to the interview high with a weapon or rolling weed just grown men chopping it up.
Math you've got to get Bumby Knuckles on the show.
Freddy foxx yes sir!!!
Hell yes!! That would be EPIC!!!!
Bumpy would be crazy or Kool g rap
He would have some great stories
Please do!!
Bro these stories are classic gems 💎 keep it up Math🔥🔥
Rakim made everyone change their cadence AND their style. It went from party raps to battle raps. From Flash and Melle Mel to Run DMC, LL, and Kurtis Blow, and then to Rakim [almost everyone after him was rapping like him or trying to be more serious like him with some exceptions]. Every phase of that evolutionary tree had a different style, different dress, different demeanor. These younger rappers (some of them) are so far away from the essence of rap and Hip Hop that they almost seem like aliens, like they have none of the original Hip Hop DNA in them. Eric Sermon is a legend. Glad to hear him speak the truth about his part and what he observed.
Hate it when people knock the young generation. Let them have their thing. You and people like you are not hip hop gate keepers. You don’t decide what they like. So just enjoy the old school and let these kids do their thing.
@@ChillydontCapsit and listen 😂
The young generation is SUPER TRASH! Their genre should be called CRAP music.
Don't forget
Kool Moe Dee
The Fantastic Five
&
The Cold Crush Brothers
@@ChillydontCap
It is what it is when the Young generation learn to respect the elders then they will get their respect
In
The Future
Loving this interview, Eric Sermon is a good listen from beats to rhymes to interviews 💯
I could listen to Eric Sermon talk all day...stories we never knew we needed to hear
💯💯💯
LL's verse on Rampage is one of my favorite guest verses to this day. That was the first case I remember of a rapper getting bodied on their own song.
I GOT RHYMES UP THE UUUUHHHH.. FORGET IT IM CONSTIPATED... slow down baby.
“Here’s your chance to advance/ get in ya stance/ I’ll shoot the holster off your cowboy pants!”
Word life! L went in. His flow was crazy. The thing about it, L kinda fell off at that point. It was after the Panther album and all these new school rappers had come out by 90. Also why Ls first line on Mama Said was “don’t call it a come back”. He really fell off in the streets, but that Rampage verse was the first shot.
@@willdieselpower Facts! Rampage and linking up with Marley Marl both lit that fire under him and made him hungry again. Then we got Mama Said Knock you out which was a classic (and my favorite rap album to this day).
@@misterelomit's not facts because LL released moma said knock you out in 1990 and EPMD released rampage in 1991.
I’ve said it many, many times, there is before Rakim and there is after Rakim. He’s the one MC that changed the art of rap the most-the art form not the business of rap, two very different things.
Rakim is THE line in rap history where everything changes and that’s why he’s the real G.O.A.T.
#peace wow; I just wrote this:
LL is the Liaison-Bridge🐐 between Before & After of "god-emceez"
Before:
Kurt
Moe-Dee
Caz
Mel
After:
G-Rap
Kane
KRS1
Rakim
Fa Sho! Their was a seismic shift when Rakim came out with his rhyme style with rhyming across the measure, internal couplets, and everything else. There were a lot of MCs tossing their notepads in the garbage can and starting all over. 😂
That monotone delivery is so revolutionary at the time,but people forgot that Shan brought that style about a year before Ra did
@@stephenheath8465with which trak?
@@pay_it_forward_franklin4469Marley Scratch.
i love that my man’s started spitting the verse mid interview… dope moment. i love this HIPHOP shit ❤
These Eric Sermon interviews are everything! 🔥🔥🔥
No lie, these Drops wit E are fire!! Best I've seen on MEO
That LL GOAT album was dope too!
Erick Sermon has always been one of my favourites 🙌🏾🙌🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I always enjoy listening to Erick stories, that's my brentwood boy
Brentwood class of 87, what up E
Love all the Ra flowers coming out of the first clips of interview.
LL Cool J is the true G.O.A.T.
his lyrics are NOWHERE near Rakim...sorry
@@bufflowsouljah2256...R destroys L..
It's between LL, Big Daddy and Rakim for THEE G.O.A.T.! LL and Big daddy are still out there killin it while Rakim seems like he's lost the energy. We all get old.
@@martinleon3145LL Cool J is better than Rakim. Look at LL Cool J status today and look at Rakim! I don't know why people be hating on LL Cool J, especially when he came out with the word goat first! Plus LL was able to rap in his era Rakim era and another era! Rakim mostly shined in one era.
@@bufflowsouljah2256People be giving Rakim too much credit he cannot touch LL Cool J LL! Cool J is in a class by himself!
Eric Sherman: best Math Hoffa interview to date, and that's saying something.
Sherman 😂
Sermon.
LL merked all competition,true G.O.A.T.
Ehhh nah
His "Rampage" Verse🤯 Especially Over That Pete Rock Remix....
Yeah LL was dope but in all honesty Erick was the best on that track imo and my whole barber shop lmaooooooo
To me, Erick sounded the worst he ever did on Rampage. Shame he had to follow Parrish and LL.
The rhymes were good, just no energy in the delivery.
@@mrbuggz5213 Shout Out To Your Barbershop But Nah Yo I Think LL Owned That Track.... 😄 Much Respect....
@@sonofabeach71 Word! I Know He Was Known As Mister Slow Flow But Nahhhh Man He Could've Upped The Ante On "Rampage"....
Track is dope all over fellas but me and mines always loved E’s verse. Everyone was dope tho. All good to like any of the 3. That’s what makes great debates. Respect🫡
When people don't recognize the impact of Rakim I chalk it up to not being there.
Damn! What a true, loaded statement! Well said.
Real story, back in days of Ll and Rakim, Ll headlined all there shows together. Rahim is even recorded saying LL wininng.....I was born in 66 Bro.
Great interview from a true legend who made and is still making history. Live great King!
Good interview s\o Erick sermon
I love how down to earth E is and giving the God his propers as well. EPMD my all time favorite duo
When Rakim was being played on the radio (Kiss FM and WBLS), even before Paid in Full came out, every time I heard him and Eric B. I sat up and took notice. No one sounded like that, did double and triple meanings like that. Every time I heard Eric B. For President, it just blew my mind. Then the album comes out, and its a straight up masterpiece. Rakim did the hip-hop equivalent of hitting a game-winning grand slam in the bottom of the 9thin his first big league at bat. Like everyone in the comments said, it was a seismic shift in hip-hop. I was only 17 when Paid in Full came out, and I was an hour away from the city up in Bridgeport, and even then I felt like hip-hop had gone up a level.
I’m from Miami, and we also felt it. I remember there was this older kid, who said he couldn’t understand RAKIM. It was at that very moment that I realized, that those who actually understood RAKIM were mentally superior to those that did not, or could not comprehend RAKIM. I still feel this to this day.
@@DonCatalogMusicmy sentiments exactly!!
P.S I grew up in Miami too, I first heard Rakim at Thomas Jefferson Jr. High
@@terminatorx6230 I went to Parkway middle then to Norland Sr. High.
Yo, memorized every verse from I ain't no joke! From rewinding video music box over 20 times..lol
I could literally watch these interviews all day. Good stuff.👍🏾
This is so classic
LL vs Big Daddy Kane back then would have been crazy
Word.....
Ya forgot Biz Markie
and kane wouldve ate him
@@junyah1976 Facts I didn’t want to say it out loud lol
@@humblekingreloaded9389 lol
Hip hop in the building EPMD I can't say no more 🙏💯👏💥💥🔥🔥this my favorite one Math watching them all
LL verse on rampage is one of my top 5 all time verses.
Bro these stories literally making my day. Great stuff
This is very good interview. Erick has interesting stories
LL is the Liaison-Bridge🐐 between Before & After of "god-emceez"
Before:
Kurt
Moe-Dee
Caz
Mel
After:
G-Rap
Kane
KRS1
Rakim
Smooth
...Example 1:
"Seven holes in my face as I'm looking out my window
Speak with the beat and it seems like the wind blows" from No Competition -Rakim
DAMN!!!!
Erick Sermon inspired me as a rapper
❤️🔥❤️🔥
A silent night is a holy night 🤔fight for what’s right hypocrisy stand tall for all 🙏🏿you black you blessed we are the light the poor tour and star’s gifts galore 🦉♠️♾️
Rakim definitely brought in a new regime of rappers. I remember still listening to run dmc and LL and my friend who had moved away came back around the way and played rakim for us , I was like wow. I started listening to him and Kane from that point on. And Lord finesse
Dopest interview ever on here 🎤
My expert Opinion. WORD!
Still remember the jeeps and trucks coming on the block blasting Epmd and k-solo joints.
Uncle L was a problem. Him and PMD went at it on “Rampage.”
P was barking 🔥
No doubt!
I'm thinking back them pmd was going at kool moe dee n hammer for ll 😂
!dude this is sick. best stories!
This a great interview
Man Eric is definitely the king of the "Back handed compliments" I've seen him in another interviews and really didn't notice it till now
Matt Hoffa you need these hip hop icons on your future show. 1. Krs one 2. Kool g rap 3. Cool j 4. Nas 5. Queen Latifah 6. Mc Lyte 7.ice cube 8. Too short 9. Scarface 10. Young jeezy make it happen my guy for hip hop fans
"You and your squad better praise the real God"
I like these stories MATH. Good work bro.
I love real history/ stories from the OG's!
Yo im driving home listening to this interview an its good one ofcourse. Its the green eyed bandit so i know its gonna be 🔥.
But then, on the end Math got that banger🔥🔥🔥... sheez that ish made me pull over to find the whole track. Didn't know Math get it in like that
I’m 38 but every time I talk to a OG over the age of 46 doesn’t matter if they from East coast or South or mid west . They all say that RAKiM changed hip hops sound for ever.
This episode is so dope.
Eric has a hip-hop voice, dude talks like he is spitting rhymes
Math your podcast is on fire for real keep up the GD content this Eric sermon interview taking me back to when I was a kid in BK listening to albums the GD old days
Soon as Rakim came out, everything instantly sounded old. Same thing happened when Guy came out, atlantic starr, midnight starr and the whispers shit died that day.
You telling it homie. Imma say it like this: Around 85, 86 Run and them was fading but then outta nowhere .. I start hearing this brother with the cadence, the monotone delivery, the superb flow coming outta every car, every radio station- Not knowing at that moment, Hip-hop just changed. President had dropped and Rakim was that dude.
Wait, wait, wait!! Booooy, you Betta stop playing wit me!!! You hit that one on the nose!!!
You are 300% correct,, when Guy, Bobby Brown, Al.B.sure,& Keith Sweat came out R&b music became more hip hop driven, bass heavy, and very experimental with the grooves and melodies. Traditional R&B production from the 70s &.80s wasn't making the cut anymore 😂 New Jack Swing has now landed 💯
🤓 *correction:*
Eric said he sampled Ohio Players on “So Whatcha Sayin” but that 3rd sample he refers to was actually BT Express
BT Express "If It Don't Turn You On, You Oughta Leave It Alone"
@@derneillwashington3091 Yep. You are correct. Just did a joint-to-sample mix and that was one of them. If It don't turn you On to So Watcha Sayin. Eric really laid into that track.
I love how EPMD never fronted like they were from the hood!
“Straight from Boondocks aka the Suburbs “
Just the other day when I was working out I had that Freddie Foxx album The Master playing
more erick sermon interview please
Man i cant wait to see this in full
"The ripper,the master,the overlordion...."
And you thought we would FOLD... 30 days later the LP went gold
so what you sayin
@@MarvillosoI was about to say "say about WHAT?" lol
LL and Kool g rap had the same rap teacher silver fox L went crazy on rampage
Speak
Elaborate
@@MrPONCHO467 silver fox taught LL and Kool. Grap how to rap he was they teacher they get they style from him
@@TheBulletzgottishow20 yep I read that in a Wax Poetics article I think. But he was the man in Queens. He has a TH-cam video of his song on there. Search it.
Kudos to you knowing the history fam.... Fox is still making records.
The E Double done Doubled literally. 😂 but his interviews always informative and entertaining 🫡
“My career is over!” 😅 I love it! Rakim Allah! The greatest lyricist ever! ‘Nuff respect due!
It’s been a long time, I shouldn’t have left you, without a dope rhyme to step to 😎
I Love this the E double💯💯
E. Dub is a legend! Salute✌🏽
Basically, LL was in a class by himself.
Math Hoffa best one yet ... classic joint right here with one of my favorite MC Eric Sermon of EpMd breaking it all the way down🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Niggas don’t understand how crazy Rakim was when he came out he literally changed everything….
Knowledge Born
Yep he's right LL cool J the Goat and Rakim the God of Rap
That's is dope we need that this real stories brings us back en never killed the love for Hiphop. 🔥 🔥
My era-late 80s early 90s. EPMD was one of my favorite groups of all time
Strictly Business was a classic my favorite EPMD album
All I know is I went on summer vacation in '86 and Dana Dane "nightmares" was it. I came back from the Isle of Grenada and it was all all about "Eric B for President."It felt like the whole world changed..🌍
Thank you Math. ✊🏾
I’ve heard a few rappers say “when RAKIM came the game changed!”
SERMON always been dope...Math please drop the intro song bro..got damn this been coming soon for months..respectfully put some new shit up to start the vids😂
Rakim had boys pressed!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Man I wish LL come on the show
Gibson l made list of 10 hip hop legends Matt Hoffa should book check it out. I mentioned ll cool j on list
So What you Sayin is one of my top 5! Yooo!
We need Parish Smith next 👏🏿
This is the MAGNIFICENCE OF HIP HOP. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL ORIGIMAL ERA. EPMD SET A HIGH BAR
Ya'll gotta get PREEMO on the show!!!!!
Oh hell yeah
Mecca rapped that verse like his teacher made him do it 😂
The interview is Top Tier Classic stories of back in the days. Never knew parish & LL was going at each other on That rampage Son I just knew the song was dope af. The god Mc Rakim is some of my favorites rappers fav rapper.
My fav hip hop beat ever, EPMD - So Watchu Sayin...
Rakim was like “Sip the Juice ……. “ and 2
minutes in I was like WHAT ?
Phenomenal
Word! He was next level on that shit
Rakim changed the way every MC rhymed. The God MC. Pay homage
Let's not exaggerate.
@@Mr.Taylor56 Exaggerate? Nah all facts if you know hip hop
@@malcomshabazz2809 Name them, I'll go back and listen to their befores and afters.
That's not what I'm saying. My point is the rappers who came before him had a simplistic rap style for example Kurtis Blow & Run DMC. But after Rakim, no MC sounded like Run DMC anymore. He changed the way the MC rhymes...you can hear his influence in Eric Sermon, Nas, Jay-z, Slick Rick, etc...to this day his influence is still heard. He is your favorite MC's favorite MC. That's why they all pay homage.
If there was a "God MC" its Rakim fa sho.
50 years of hip-hip, Rakim is the GOD MC!
THIS MIGHT BE THE BEST 1 HOFFA
You had to dissect those 80/90’s diss records to find out who the diss was for. Good ol days.
Niceeeeee‼️🔥
We need another business album
Dope interview ❤
Man I been going thru Redman discography all day then come home 2 this ...E DUB DEF SQUAD HIP HOP ✌🏾
LL was NUTTN to play with.
Dissed EPMD on their own joint, Rampage (‘…here’s ya chance to advance, get in ya stance, I’ll shoot the holster off ya cowboy pants. Pure entertainment, tonight’s your arraignment, ya guilty, face down on the pavement. No holds barred, it’s time to get scarred, you and ya squad better praise the real God…’) He got BUSY on To Da Break A Dawn. He dissed, Hammer, Kool Moe Dee, Ice T AND EPMD (‘…All the wannabe sheriff’s is gettin shot down… gimme that microphone, I’ma show you the real meaning of the danger zone…’)
If you listen closely, it sounds like was really enjoying it too.. 😆😆
Marley Marl said on "The Combat Jack Show" that when Ra was recording "Eric B. Is President" at his apartment, him & MC Shan were laughin' at Ra's style because it didn't have the yelling delivery of the early to mid 80's which was the standard.
@math I wasn’t raised on hip hop I caught on like 2001. I was born in Chicago in 87 I had 7 uncles. I was raised on “politics” n sports. I’ve learned so much on this show it’s crazy. 🙏🏾