2004 Honda Civic 1.6 EP2 Review | Enthusiast's perfect first car
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, I review a Honda Civic EP2 and it's most definitely a ricer without a doubt but is there a case to argue as to why it's an enjoyable car to own? I get to drive and witness firsthand what it's like to be a in a car that's breaking the speed of sound yet nowhere near the speed limit!
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Chapter
00:00 - Drive by
00:16 - Title sequence
00:23 - Introduction
00:46 - Performance and setup
02:03 - Tuner culture
02:35 - Price
02:51 - Modifications
03:43 - Owner drive/thoughts
06:45 - Mizan drive/review
12:57 - Summary
14:08 - Sound check
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DISCLAIMER:
*Some footage from this video may be edited and or sped up for cinematic effects.
*Some footage was also filmed on private land - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Would you buy an EP2 as your first car or is it too much of a ricer and the reputation is ruined? Let me know in the comments below!
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Got one for my second car
Why would anyone ruined their reputation with it I invite u to ride rally with stock 1.6 vtec and we will break the speed limit and i will ride. Its not cars fault if the driver is unexperienced!!
I couldn't really make heads or tails of what you've just said
???????????????? Nothing about this is a ricer??
This car is a replica Type R with the wheels, seats and red badges. It even has an insanely loud exhaust.
''he's redlining it so hard but we're not moving anywhere'' - Civic passenger experience in a nutshell😂
Perfectly summed up
I bought one not long ago, great on fuel cheap to tax and insure and surprisingly nippy. Remote locking,electric windows and sunroof. Mine had one owner from new fsh paid £750 can't complain.
If you don't mind the typical bare essential JDM interior, it's an amazing car to have as a run around and definitely fun to drive, cheap to buy and maintain
I bought it as my first car as a 19yo but it's so much fun and it actually stands out from all basic daily driver's Fords and Suzukis 😁. Loved the vid but without the spoiler and stuff I don't think about it as a ricer, it shows what it is😄
Without any of mods, it wouldn't be subject to any of the criticism or jibes! Regardless of anything, it's the best first car if you ask me
Nooo Swift Sport is better!
@@freddieparrydrums insurance for the swifts are dumb
Good video mate. I have an ep2 and I’m looking to get an ep3 very soon had the Ep2 3 years now honestly can’t fault it still fun to drive every time I get in it,but you have to remove the midpipe silencer though tell him to remove this mid pipe silencer for a straight through midpipe and it will sound a lot nicer and get rid of the tinny noise. Good vid tho mate look forward to seeing ep3
Thanks for your comment and glad to get input from an EP2 owner. Saiful has sold the car and he drives an A3 3.2 which I recently reviewed!
Just get a different car bro lol, you have already experienced this chassis, try something different, all you'll get is the same car with 90 more HP and more RPM,
I had a EP3 type R for over 7 years. The engines are bulletproof but if you are thinking of buying one make sure to check for rust. The cars are getting old now and they can rust really bad under the rear arches causing structural damage to the chassis. You can't see it from the outside so make sure to remove and look behind the rear speakers. This will let you see if there is rust behind the wheel arch liners. If the car is clean there it's probably good.
Thanks for your advice. I'm sure it'll be very helpful to anyone that's also looking to buy an EP2
Nice EP2 review man! I have black EP1 that looks similar, and yeah, I slam my gas pedal to the floor more than clutch and brake combined so you can only hear me roaring in front of you boi, while disappearing into the night with all that black tint and wings of spoilers. :D
Very fun cars to drive despite the low amount of power at your disposal!
Nice bro, something different, more of this style video gonna be sick👌
Thank you for your comment - lots of reviews coming. Only 2x episodes of M135i series left and full steam ahead!
@@CarNitty bro im laughing too much when you jumped in it that u-turn was too funny😂😂
@@raihanhussain4188 glad you enjoyed it. That's what Car Nitty is all about!
I got an ep2 it is amazing
Glad your enjoying your buying experience
Nice one Mizan, keep up the content, Hows the M135i any need additions interior or exterior
You've not seen the last of the M135i. It'll be back soon. Have got an LCI steering wheel for the car and done a full carbon wrap so will show that all off once done 👍
Love this review 👌 i wanted a toyota celica sooooo bad for a first car but this video has really put me onto the ep2 due to the statistics ive heard.... but whats an average price for insurance for a 17 y.o on one of these?
Glad you liked the review! Insurance obviously varies due to many factors, but I can't imagine it being too high for a small 1.6 engine with such low power. With the mods, it can feel like a rocket without requiring rocket maintenance or bill money!
1.8k for me on my first year
Depending on how old you are and where you're living, not so bad
I miss my EP2, defo the best first car choice I made! Exhaust setup was definetely not this loud which I think made it perfect
Best first car ever - And yes the clutch is a b** to get used to 😂
Glad you agree with the advice it's a good first car and buzzing I've got someone in the comments to defend my little mishap with the clutch! 🤣
Was it easy getting insured on the ep2 as a new driver?
@@iagreewithyoubut2909 Wasn't too bad for me paid about 1.6k at the age of 18
@@MrJamz74 that's bang on. I've just recently passed and was looking at an ep2. Insurance is 3k for me though lol. Might have to settle for something less
It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than to drive a fast car slow. On the street having all that horsepower is just gone to waste, can't use it without losing your license.
I definitely agree. You can feel like you're breaking the speed of sound without having to break anything!
I have it like my first car and it's fantastic. Not slow, not fast by the way.
Definitely the perfect car for a newly passed driver - hands down!
@@CarNitty yeah, it's quite economical too... Very good car eve for a little family.
What mpg do you get roughly
Trying to buy one but cannot find any for sale near me. Goes to show how rare this shape of civic are starting to get.
As they get older, there's less examples of them around especially as many of these were probably owned by a boy racer like Saiful!
Great car, and not slow for a first car😉
Speed should be the last thing for a newly passed driver. They can just about get insured to begin with without any other factor!
Well... After a week you can probably feel how slow it is right?
@@wuzzyk speed is subjective. You can sit in a 2020 S3 and think it's fast yet someone who's experienced faster cars could say it's slow because their benchmark is V10/V12 engined supercars...
@@CarNitty Thats why i said that anyone could thinks its fast if they never have ridden in anything before but after a week its got no acceleration.
@@wuzzyk trick is don't get into someone else's car!
Love to buy a civic for my son for his first car, and do a project, but his only in primary school lol 😂 planning ahead..
Blimey, when he's old enough to drive, god knows what will be a good first project car for him. These civics will no doubt be extinct as they're reaching 20 years of age soon enough!
I want one of these soo bad they’re soo nice
Depending on where you're living, they're very attainable and I hope you can get one
Miss seeing this turn up to a meet. You'd hear Saiful before he's actual within the horizon!
I can imagine. You know it was him round the corner by the noise of that exhaust 🤣
Cap type r got VIOLATED 🤣🤣🤣 this vid is too jokes
I don't get why some people are saying the car got violated.
It's not a fast car. Everyone knows that including the owner. The straight pipe is not the owners fault - his cat was stolen and the lack of speed and noise makes it a ricer. It's my job to be honest and truthful as a reviewer!
That being said, it makes it an incredible car for a young driver for all the same reasons.
I think the mods are tasteful. A sheep in wolf's clothing as someone else commented earlier.
Saiful has now moved into a 3.2 VR6 A3 which will be on the channel soon which I'm looking forward to due to our on screen chemistry!
Good car for a young driver rather that than a financed corsa 1.2. I wouldn't put an exhaust same reason I wouldn't put one on a ep3 too loud if it's my daily. I'm 34 now when I was young I never was bothered my loud and uncomfortable cars
Hit the nail on the head about the finance part. Lot more fun and bang for buck with these.
Loudness is less of a pull factor as you age, no doubt!
Another good review. You wouldn’t think this car does 0-60 in 10-11 seconds for the way it looks. Proper sheep in wolfs clothing. Does look fantastic.
Cheers Ben. Much appreciated! Yes, it looks like a Type R with the wing and wheels and red badging but technically isn't the equivalent of being an M badge w*nker and the vivid blue paint looks amazing I'm the flesh. Thanks for watching as always 🖤
@@CarNitty haha definitely he doesn't exactly show it off to be a fake R like some BMW drivers into having an M badge on their SE 114i
I want one so bad as a first car but all the one near me need welding, which I don’t know how to do so I can’t get one yet haha
Be willing to travel if you really want one! Don't settle for anything less
Nice video my bro!. Vtec Power
Thanks for being a regular commenter and subscriber 🖤
RIP VTEC ⚰️
How's this running on E10 petty or is the owner running it on premium fuels?
This car was sold shortly after this review which was before the E10 introduction. I don't recommend anyone using E10 fuel at all.
Mine runs like crap on E10 so I only put decent stuff in now.@@CarNitty
I personally don't touch E10 fuel even if I when I had a 2003 Nissan Micra as a runner in the family. The car felt very rough and fuel economy was poor compared to running Momentum 99
Had mine for a year still going strong and yeah that clutch is a piss take. It's really not fast but it's good fun.
Glad my review lives up to a real EP2 owners thoughts 👍
Definitely wish I had an EP2 instead of a 206 for my first car 🤣😒
Believe me, it wouldn't have cost much and you'd have had so much fun
does it have an aftermarket exhaust
Straight pipe all the way - if you watch the section with the owner driving, he explains why he's got a straight pipe.
I own an ep2 and im 17 the clutch is easy af what is this guy on😂
You're definitely correct. I mean, you're 17. You've got all the experience in the world and every EP2 in the world is identical to the one you've picked up 👍
@@CarNitty im sure my clutch is the same but thanks
Yeah, all clutches are the same if you own the car. Makes sense
Want this for my first car but don’t know what price is good
Unfortunately price fluctuates quite a bit. I wouldn't pay more than £1500 for this even for one in the cleanest condition as they were cheap when new and demand isn't that high
@@CarNitty only ones I can see with good mileage are above 3k
I really wouldn't pay anything more than the price I paid. It can't be justified at 3k unless it's fully modified the way you'd have liked it
He might need to check his gearbox after you been in it Mizan lmao
It's absolutely fine! His biting point is horrendously high and any amount of gas to help move off makes the car sound as if you're revving the car
i got 8.3 secs to 60mph with this car
Very respectable time considering!
I have this car!! You say insurance is cheap 😂😂😂😂 my insurance was quoted at £950 a month! Got it down to £307 a month. Getting robbed blind 😅😅
Insurance has gotten really bad in recent years for young drivers unfortunately but this is a very good choice at a fun hatchback for a newly passed driver if you ask me
Im just about to buy mine, 580 a month to insure and im 28 🤣🤣 got it down to 130 somehow 😜😜
Not sure how you guys are paying so much for an EP2. I really can't comment on why insurance prices have risen so much
@@CarNitty crazy isn't it, it hasn't stopped me from buying it though, £1300 and expensive to insure but its all worth it
Man's said he got his for 800£
Mine was £2.4k 😭😂
Lol you paid a lot of money for an EP2 😲
@@CarNitty theres more about but they want 4/5k for them
@@CarNitty it's only got 87k so fairly low mileage and it's 2022 there been a massive inflation
They must be kidding. 4/5k for an EP2? That's MK5 GTI money. Even a high mileage EP3 can be had for that kind of money
@@CarNitty yeh its mental, to be fair they are really tidy and done up well but still couldn't fathom paying that much
Would you rather have this or a scirroco?
A Scirocco would cost a lot more. Not really comparable if you ask me
It should be able to push a 0-60 in less than 10 seconds if you're using super and have almost nothing in the tank...
I've got the basic version of the EP2 with standard wheels on it, and a more sedate factory exhaust, and while it's not a fast car by any stretch, where it really shines is on winding A roads. You can keep it at 55 with your foot hard down and just throw it around.
Big problems on these are the steering rack and the input shaft bearing.
The rack was the 1st gen electric rack, and they're prone to sticking when the grease dries out, which in turn messes up the motor and torque sensor. Mine is on a rebuilt rack, and it's been trouble free for about 60k miles so far, and showing no signs of trouble yet.... touch wood....
The input shaft bearings on them are pretty fragile compared to the EP3. Mine was replaced during a geabox rebuild, and again, no issues since. If you change the transmission fluid every couple of years, it helps a lot.
The other problem that gets them is rust on the rear arches, but there's not much can be done about that.
You've given a very detailed synopsis of your experience of your EP2. Thank you for sharing it here for others to read
@@CarNitty No worries matey. Something else worth noting is that while it does have VTEC, it's the more economy focussed version running on a single cam. You can sometimes feel it kick a little, but it's nothing compared to the EP3. The Type S version looks a lot like the Type R, but it's no different mechanically to the basic version, so exactly the same VTEC.
What is quite curious about mine is that it if I try to drive it economically (pottering about in 5th at about 45, gentle acceleration etc - the usual stuff), it doesn't do much for the mpg. If you rag it a little in 3rd, change late and run at slightly higher revs, it is more economical.... I've still not got a clue why.
The old EJ9 was the same. Just liked to be ragged a bit.
Amazing vid but deffo not a first car.
You need a small engine to start with, that teaches you discipline on the roads and tbh as a first car it just needs to get you from A-B and that's it
First car being a 1.6 you'd either end up wrapped around a tree or driving too fast 24/7
And if you get a black box policy on a car you're just wasting your money and the potential of the car you're driving.
My first car was a BMW 320D E46 with 150BHP and although that has more power and torque than this Honda, the Honda is more enjoyable for an inexperienced driver.
Forget the engine size for a moment and focus on 108BHP/152NM. I'd feel safe letting my child drive one at 17/18!
My first car is an EP3 at 19. (Actually had an accord prior but just parked it and never had a chance to drive it)
@@Nappepappe Wow, an EP3 at 19? I know 30 year old's who's pride and joy is a Type-R! Congrats
@@CarNitty Thanks! Lovely car and actually not that expensive to own so it's pretty much ideal for any young gear head. Can't see how this guy is saying a 1.6L is too big, this thing is like twice the BHP and I rarely even break the speed limit. Being young and having a fast-ish car doesn't mean I drive like an idiot, living with this thing probably makes me a better driver in the long run.
My BMW M135i is the first car which broke the 200BHP barrier. My previous car was a W204 C200 which had a 180BHP or around that figure but the 5 speed auto meant it wasn't very fun to hoon around. Your EP3 would've got me into trouble if I had it at a younger age!
Hi,this or golf 5?
The MK5 Golf is a good daily but it's never going to feel like a GTI or an R32. The EP2 feels like a budget EP3
Got one. But i need new exhaust.
Just straight pipe it!
Lmao this was just a vio on the whiz
A vio/violation? The Honda Civic EP2 is commonly known as a ricer especially when it looks like a Type-R "replica" and that's all it's ever known as. It gets judged as a book and no more.
If you watched the entire video you'd know that I enjoyed the experience and I recommend it as a first car to newly passed drivers
i have an ep2 in blue like yours, i find her thirsty even when i drive easy on her and quiet dead, not that nippy
Surprised you find it thirsty. You must be hitting that VTEC every time!
It cost me £29 to drive to Belfast and back last week, return that’s a total of 160 miles motorway driving 70% of the journey ( roughly ) 65mph going as easy as I could , is that not thirty ?
@@caleb4790 the EP2 has a 5 speed gearbox. That sounds about right for the miles you got especially with the current prices of fuel
@@CarNitty oh right fair enough . Thanks mate
@@caleb4790 if you had a 6 speed, I'd say it would cost you 15% to 20% less
Ohh I had one of these.. wk04…
I had the cosmic grey with spoiler.
D-16 lots of performance parts from usa
I had spoon sport 4 pot brakes on it too :)
Manifold
Full exhaust system
Lowered
Aftermarket alloys
147hp was the final HP
Very surprising to hear you managed to get this lump to produce 147BHP!
@@CarNitty
Cost a few grand…
It had cams too and a ported head
Best thing to do is turbo kit from USA 🇺🇸 It’s a very common engine over their (D17 also)
@@CarNitty oh and a high flow cat and race clutch, weight reduction (rear seats out) and bucket seats…
Sold it as I needed to get a more sensible car as I was getting engaged.. got a fiesta st 55 plate instead..
Given the HP/ton I’d reached on the the EP2 the 55 plate Fez ST didn’t feel much faster tbh.
Compared to a stock EP2… well pretty much anything is faster :)
Put your plate in the right place lmao such a prat way to have a plate
It's a preferential choice for any owner
7th is dead when try to find true pleassure. 6th is the way to go. EJ EK.
😂😂saiful is too jokes
This video wouldn't be what it is right him!
Best of luck finding one for 500
They've skyrocketed quite a bit from when this video was done. You may be able to find a rust bucket EP2 for that price!
Love this car but its not insurance friendly looooool
I'd have to disagree with you there. From factory, it's a pretty boring looking 3 door Civic and it's not very powerful as well as not a popular car for young people which makes it a recipe for cheap insurance!
@@CarNitty 1.8k is not cheap bro 🤣
@@MotorAlli I think as a first driver, you're lucky to even get insured within your first two years in certain parts of UK!
@@CarNitty down south there's nothing going on haha, right back to recording me sanding the spoiler 😂
Bro rode tf out of the clutch
If the clutch is slipping and it needs replacement then that's the only way to drive it without stalling
I can't believe there isn't an petrol egnine option between 110hp and full blown typeR. 110 is just too damn slow in this car, wish there was a 140-150hp version this just doesn't make sense
Sounds like you need a Celica in your life 👀
There's the ep3 Si but mostly in US
As much as i love the ep2, it sounds like apsolute shit compared to the ep3... still props to this guy for having the balls to get on camera and have the piss taken out of him
I honestly have watched this video myself and don't see how I've mocked or taken the piss out of him. It was an honest review of a car that although is very flawed, it's still a cool car.
I personally know Saiful hence why we had this rapport and banter on screen and his Audi A3 3.2 video is dropping on Sunday at 6pm!
17 yr old aint insuring the 1.6 for acceptable money, maybe the 1.4 good option for the young uns to get into cars
It's not always about engine size. Power also plays a part so I'm sure the 100bhp isn't enough to kill anyone unless you're really trying
im 17 and i have an ep2
my man needs to learn how to drive manual 😂 what gear am i in🤦♂
I've been waiting for someone like you to finally comment. 7k views and only now do I have the pleasure.
Firstly, the gearknob was replaced with a Mugen one so it's blank with no markings as to what gear it's in. I daily drive a BMW M135i with a ZF8 so on a day in to day basis, I'm not used to manual cars especially when the gearbox is mounted on the dashboard. Finally, the gearbox was on it's way out and it sometimes wouldn't go into gear or go back into neutral by itself. You won't believe this car was sold on shortly after this video and now the current owner is selling up due to needing a gearbox replacement. Let me know if you want to have a test run in that! Regardless, hope you enjoyed the video
@@CarNitty LOOL It's all Luv Bruv ! we all had to start somewhere! At least you are honest about not driving manual cars. anywho keep up with the vidz All love from North America !
Glad you enjoyed the video and I left the issues I had on purpose for the comedy factor
don't need to be 17😂 there just fun
Lots of cars are fun. The EP2 will have an expiry date at some point as you'll want more power at did point!
Get the 2002 se one more old people drive so not fucked when second hand and the same engine
These Honda's are solid as bricks. They suit the golden generation of the import/tuner culture
@@CarNitty I got the 2002 se 3 door same engine one old lady driver thing is it’s hard to get good wheels onit as 4x100
@@CarNitty is there a good exhaust to get for the se that’s not really silly loud but better then the stock? What you suggest?
@@joby4575 Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to advise you further on that. I'd say maybe a resonator or backbox delete. Don't delete both or else it'll be loud as this one!
@@joby4575 look who I found hahaha
Driver is wayyyy to far from the steering wheel, he’s got to fully extend he’s arms just to hold the wheel🤦🏽♂️
It's up to people how they wish to sit in their own cars I'm afraid
The guy s seating position is a fucking joke:))))) and the steering wheel cover jesus christ.
Glad you saw comedy in something that wasn't even intended for comedic purposes ☺️
Do let me know what driving school you work so myself and the featured person can get some specialist driving lessons...
Test a Swift Sport 1st gen
If I'm able to get my hands on one, I'd be up for it!
@@CarNitty Nice, they are great cars!!! Similar to this, slow but loads of fun!
Souded like crap 10sec into the vid.
Love the car but hate wen people have a crap exhaust. And all the tyre r badges on the ep2.
He needs to get bit closer to the steering wheel any further back he’d be laying down.
The owner covers why the car is straight piped when we go for a drive and he's driving. His catalytic converter was stolen and this car doesn't actually have any Type R badges. Only red Honda badges and genuine EP3 seats
@@CarNitty the red badges only come on the type r.
Yes, I'm aware but the car itself doesn't have type R written on it and no one would debadge that so that's the biggest clue this isn't a type R
Lets be real the car is just slow
You've missed the point, though. Cars don't have to be fast to be fun. A Rolls Royce Phantom isn't about speed, it's about luxury. Just like that, this Honda is about pure driving pleasure with the VTEC and 5-speed manual
Bruv need some practice driving manual
Not my type of car :/
It's not for a lot of people including me but that doesn't mean it's not fun or an option for other people!
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Well done on figuring out the pun behind the TH-cam channel name 👍🏼
Bro...........?? Do you actually know what "ricer" means???? Why do you keep saying that??? This is absolutely nothing like a "ricer" whatsoever??? It's a very clean example of a Civic??
This car is a replica Type R with the wheels, seats and red badges. It even has an insanely loud exhaust.
@@CarNitty Not a ricer though dude, at all, nothing you just described details a ricer.
@@CarNitty Look up "ricer car" on google images man haha, or hell, watch the early Fast and furious. These will help you understand what a "ricer" is, a loud exhaust, or a bad sounding one doesn't mean a car is a ricer, it means it has a bad exhaust setup. Car is super clean and looks almost stock. And the mods are very respectable, not even slightly a ricer, I think you have a significant misunderstanding of what a ricer is, no disrespect.
how the fuck is that a ricer it's virtually bone stock visually.
The red badges and type R wheels and seats mimic that of a real Type R. Most people don't modify their EP2s at all let alone for it to look like a replica EP3
@@CarNitty Okay??? What about that makes it a ricer???? The fact he made it look like an EP3??? This is tasteful modding man, nothing about it is riced.