I got rejected from a job I wanted - it was because someone went through the 5 rounds quicker than I did. I guess if you have the freedom to schedule your interviews make them as ‘back-to-back’ as possible
tl;dr: "we chose the other candidate because we interviewed him faster than we interviewed you. So sorry we dediced to give you a shitty interview schedule lol, anyways, thanks for wasting 69 hours of your life interviewing with us!"
I love how software engineering is 90% working your neck off for interviews and 10% working with a bunch of goofs who make you wonder how they even passed the same interview as you.
@@AlFredo-sx2yy that's kind of the impression I got as well. Unless you're sure you can completely ace the interview and leave them astounded, you're better off not selecting the last slots.
10 years ago I passed five interviews at Microsoft. They called me, said congratulations, and asked me for a couple of days to send me a financial offer. Two days passed, and the contact person messages me, *hey sorry, change of plans, the position is no longer available, so we cannot hire you anymore". I joined a smaller company, and I'm still working there ten years later. I made a career here and I'm happy, I feel valued and that I my work really matters.
Something just like this happened to me when the project the company was hiring me for lost its budget. I quit my job to take it too. Freaked out for a day then found another job within a few days
@@hackbaba999 let me tell you a fact, I got offer from both microsoft and Apple at the same time. I chose Microsoft. I've been using this dp since the time I was 16 years old.
It’s important for all developers to have a life outside of software engineering. Go the gym , hunt , fish woodwork , go for long walks , learn to draw, homestead , jogs and hikes etc . If you put software engineering jobs on a pedestal you’ll be all the more crushed when you get rejections. Just some advice developers should consider.
That's what I have realized in the last few years, how is a reality that there are another planets in the universe with different types of lives, even here in this world, and I am here stuck, trying to find a job? 😂 Like, I feel like the world is ending for me but I remember that and I feel better
The more i interview, and the times i think back to when i was hired, and the many times i've been rejected, ive come to realize two things 1. most of the time the person who you deal with for like 75% of the interview process (HR person or recruiter) doesn't know too much, and will really say whatever to keep you interested until you are no longer needed. 2. there is a very healthy amount of luck involved with getting the job you actually want.
I got rejected from multiple jobs(that I thought I really wanted) before I got hired at my dream job. Don't let this bring you down. You're destined for something much better!
Hi Alexander, I am a self taught web developer and recently started applying for jobs. I mostly pass the tests given during the interviews but I lack experience when it comes to interview round with the HR or technical person. Can you please give me some advice. Thanks
@@abhisheklingwal7961 Step 1. Get a mentor, find someone that you admire in the field and ask him/her if they could mentor you. Some will say yes, some will say no, just keep on asking. 2. Spend 95% of your time learning something that is or will be in high demand in the future(Google Cloud Services, IT security etc)... Spend 5% on Networking, go to events, coding camps etc.. 3. Dress up for the interview(shirt and tie) and smile. Companies are looking for people with knowledge of the field and people who can work in a team. Don't waste time trying to learn interview questions, either you know how to do the job or not.
What I have learned is to leave emotions out of the process. Be excited, but not attached. It's all business. This also helps in technical interviews, so you don't feel the weight of the world on your shoulders. It will happen if it's meant to be.
I can relate to this so much. Two years ago, I desperately wanted to land a Software Engineer Internship at Amazon. Unfortunately I didn't pass the final interview. Fast forward to last year, I managed to get an internship at Microsoft even though I didn't think much of it and thought I'll also fail it. Now I'm set for Summer 2023 !
Hey Nick! I'm not too good in cheering up people, but perhaps you value this thought - It helped me a lot in similar situations... " A winner is just a loser who tried one more time" ;) Keep going brother!
Great video, 2 months ago, I got failed from Amazon's interview after 5 rounds interviews as well, and even they refused to give any feedback. I was heartbroken at that time..., but now I've decided to leave these sucks in the past year! just keep moving on!
Yea, it happens man. But as you said in the end, sometimes its destiny. It happened to me, to not get hired to a role I wanted, but ended up getting something better later on. Just keep up
I can't imagine how those company that you mention can reject you. You seems really valuable, even just watch for a couple minutes and i can know how passionate you are by the way you tell about what you did in a certain way. Hope you get better than those rejection!
Nick, from what I've learned in my humble experience is that whenever you get rejected it is for something better. It means that you don't belong there and something better is "meant" for you. Don't give up, aim high brother!
I'm an engineer and I've been on many interviews, the way I get over the whole rejection thing is to just expect the worse and hope for the best. I usually don't expect to get any jobs I interview for but because my expectations are so low when I do get the job it's a welcome surprise. I'd say I'm around 30% on my success rate with interviews but I only need one job so if I do at least 10 interviews I'd have 3 offers and that's good enough for me.
Whoa this came just in time for my own rejection I got with similar circumstances. 5 rounds, heavy hinting that I'm ideal, AND they even told me I was the first to complete it all. But they decided to cherry pick and wait for someone else with some more impressive background or something. Ultimately, I know I would have done amazing at the job and I'll go on to do other amazing things with or without them.
Hey man, you don't have bad luck. It simply wasn't meant to be and one day if you continue pushing you'll look back at it and see how it molded you into a better position/person
Thanks for this video. It really helped me with my own failure. I've been learning software development for the past 5 years while I worked in an IT job. A few months ago, I got laid off, so I decided to go all in. I gave up most of the things I loved doing, and study/practice non-stop every single day. Despite this, I absolutely suck at algorithms. I have been struggling with leetcode easy/medium questions and today after struggling to solve a single question for hours only to fail, I had a meltdown. Unfortunately, my savings and my time is running out, so I have been increasingly frustrated with how stupid I must be to spend so long on single problems when my peers can solve them in seconds or minutes. It has kept me from applying to jobs because at this rate I will only embarass myself if they give me even a simple algorithm to solve. It has made me question if I am even suitable for this role or if I have wasted the past 5 years of my life. I'm glad I am not the only one that takes failure poorly. Also thanks for all your leetcode videos. They have helped me understand problems so that I can tackle them myself.
When you get rejected, you are one step closer to the right thing/role for you. That thing you got rejected from, it was either not the right place/role or not the right time. You and your content mean the world to me; Love you lots man!! Stay safe and happy.
not that uncommon then uh. Dude seemed really excited to have me in the team and never texted me back. Like, I followed up but he kept ghosting me, not even to tell me that I was rejected lol
@2:20 doesn't every company tell you they found a more suitable candidate? I've never heard interviewer telling the interviewee that they're "not a strong candidate", or rejecting a candidate and telling them "you're not good enough for us"
Working in IT for 2 decades now. Most if not all jobs legally require it to be posted externally even knowing they will hire someone internally. Seen over 90 job applicants get narrowed down to 5 then after everything the internal employee gets it. Waist everyone’s time. Don’t take it personally if the person reading this got rejected. More then likely they were just going through the motions.
I just graduated from my coding bootcamp December 9th and have already faced COUNTLESS rejections so this video could not have come at a better time. Thank you for your vulnerability which in turn makes me feel less alone during this period of rapid fire rejection in my life.
@@zmonkey111 I watched a video on the Devslopes channel and he recommended steering away from full stack courses or indeed applying for full stack entry-level jobs. He recommended mastering front end first, because no company wants to risk back end development with junior staff (because that's heavy on data integrity and responsibility).
There's a weird hiring culture in tech where companies will take your time and put you through this long interview process, but then if you get rejected they won't give you any truthful information on why that happened. It makes it hard to learn what you need to learn, but honestly you may also want to take it as a sign that these are not companies where you actually want to work. They often end up hiring people who are good at interviewing over people who are good at the actual job. Rejections suck but you only need one acceptance at the end of the day. And if you don't get that, create your own opportunity. Best of luck.
Yea, had a friend of mine get told "We can't give you any details on how to improve your resume/experience because then it wouldn't be a level playing field for other applicants in the future." lol
Thanks for putting this out. Been rejected for a year and a half and had only 9 actual interviews (outside of recruiters). The problem I did find out was that I had my own programming business and, typically, that is guaranteed a rejection/ghosting due to not working with a team of developers (I did get some honest answers, and that's #1 answer: no team experience = no consideration). Another reason for rejection was being self-taught (and no degree - though went to college in the 1990s for 4 years with 3 majors, but never finished due to $$$). That's pretty much being frowned upon (not sure why - since they always seem want a go-getter/self-starter). Another reason was interesting: No social media presence. Since I've focused a ton on security, I kept my profile(s) private and only discuss business (no politics nor "hot" topics), and have aliases as well. Another reason for rejection was not keeping up with some particular framework (Angular was one. I said, what's wrong with Vue?) - about the only viable rejection - I totally understand. Another reason was not having a particular skillset with a particular cloud (which kinda makes sense, however, once you've been on one "cloud", they're pretty much all the same and you can pick up a new one's syntax in a day or 2!) - better excuse, but, c'mon, really? (not to mention, if they're true Agile, most cloud tasks would be delegated to a different job positions - billing, security, container mgmt, routing/firewall, backups, disaster recovery, etc - not put all these tasks on devs). Some rejections, I am grateful for: There was a position that required mastery of Java, C#, VB and Ruby, disaster recovery, front end (including artwork), middle tier, back end (Oracle, SQLServer, and DB2), 3 clouds + hardware experience in their own datacenter. Had to have a PhD in Computer Science and their compensation for all of this was a measly $42/hr! (you can be a Google Adwords expert and get more than this!). If someone w/a PhD had this kind of experience, I'd presume they wouldn't dumb enough to work for this rate, unless they had a felony record. One rejection was brutally honest: "We're looking for younger candidates"
much like gambling, you're only one step away from a win. thank you Nick, you have made me realise i should get back into gambling and never stop again < 3
Hey Nick - I also got rejected by mongo recently. Sucks but seeing your video helped me get over, if you didn't get a job there it makes me feel better I didn't!
Very touched by your rejection story. The best job will find you. There are too many applications on a job market due to mass layoffs by the MAANG companies that had been tough on talents like you. A lot more rejections are happenning in worst ways - like cancellation of last round interviews, being kept on standby as a back up in case their offer does not work out, asking to do take home assignments that are taken by the interviewers for their benefit or simply getting ghosted.
Don't get disappointed brother, even though I was rejected from three SDE internships and now I'm polishing my skills. New to the channel, subscribed and liked.
No worries on this one, Nick. You'll get where you want to be through your hard work and talent. I've learned a massive amount from your channel and wish you the best of luck on your next attempt.
@@Mohib3 yeah you are right but at least some do a good job at convincing you and you never really notice. I'd say Google is at least better than Amazon cause their stuff is interesting and it seems like a better culture. Still not great in sure
I am a firm believer of whatever happens in life, happens for a really good reason. Never thought I'd get a Full Stack Software Engineering job, but I landed on back in 2022. Never be disheartened, there is always another, even BETTER opportunity coming your way.
I have recently graduated from the university with a master's degree in computer engineering and I'm living in Lebanon. I have applied for many internships and jobs. I have been rejected from a lot of companies and some companies didn't even reply to me even though I tried to communicate with the recruiters but no one responded. The reason I get rejected is because I don't have a previous professional in such a field. I'm working on myself at home to build projects etc. to gain more experience but the problem is no company is willing even to give you the oppurtionity to train you and see if you really have what it takes for this job, Moreover, how do some companies expect from fresh gradutaes to have 2/3+ years experience when they have just graduated?! sometimes the demand for the experience for an entry level job is a little bit silly especially when you are a fresh gradute.
Two days ago I got rejected by MongoDB too, for a Software Engineer role. The process lasted 8 weeks, 8 interviews and I completed the process, I passed all the interviews. When I was expecting to receive an offer, considering all the super-positive feedback that I received (they even asked when could I receive my computer), they rejected me. Very polite. But rejected me. Very positive feedback though. But rejected me. Still in shock. I have ~3-4 years of experience and this feels like a hard hit to me :(
Insane what we have to go through to be able to make a living. The inflation adjusted median income during the great depression was $80k/yr, how far we've fallen )=
Last year I applied to Eastman School of Music for their masters in organ program and auditioned after being encouraged to do so. I got rejected mid March. I took a gap year and reapplied to Eastman and all. I went to the audition and played some of the hardest repertoire there is for organ. I think I had a bad audition because I made ten mistakes. Last March 23, I got rejected again. I’m glad I’m not the only one who seems to be always getting rejected for things I really want so badly. I guess it’s Eastman’s loss.
Hey Nick 👋🏼 I just started learning about code so the algorithm brought this video, I’ve always wanted to learn code but the REAL reason I’m learning is because there is a rumor we’re getting laid off in April 💔 Soo I’m keeping the “there are better opportunities” coming ahead ✨ so thanks! Greetings from 🇭🇳
Lol, I got rejected from a job at Tesla Motors and I wanna tell you, It's ok bro. Maybe you're meant to make your own company in the future. Don't give up :)
I was rejected from Google phone interview. I was surprised that the interview had little to do with date structures and algorithms and made few mistakes on semantics of a specific language I was using. Just got unlucky with a really bad interviewer
I recently interviewed with a company got to the final round and expected an offer just for them to say they are changing the role completely and no longer looking for that role.
Put it like this bro, the company who gets you will be hella lucky because you are someone who puts the work in even when they don't know the answer like a real dev they find it. I can't wait to see your future success bro
I'm currently on my final year of college, and i was the goto student for my professor and friends when they got stuck on coding (especially on Python and Machine Learning problem) so when i apply for a python developer role and got interview. And when i got rejected i feel like shit and can't get over it, i feel like it's not fair i thought i qualified for the job. But then i moved on and maybe just focus on my final year and improve my portfolio
A big part of a hiring decision comes down to personality, an interview is akin to a dumb high school popularity contest, the amount of times I've seen people far less experienced and qualified get a position over someone who just acts charming, outgoing and extrovert for the interview (despite often turning out to be a dick or incompetent), well, it kind of sucks but people are shallow. I just have an act I've perfected. I can be a charming extrovert for the length of an interview, once I'm in I'll just revert to my natural introverted state, I go to work for money, I have no interest in making friends or being popular etc. No offence meant, idk how you act at interview, but I'd rather have the truth over someone trying to spare my feels. To me you come across as kind of emotionally flat, a bit miserable, somewhat monotone. Most interviewers wont have the balls to tell you that when asking for feedback, they'll simply choose someone who makes them feel good when they're conversing and give a cottonwool excuse to someone who is perhaps far better qualified but didn't come across well. Also many jobs where I am discriminate against caucasian/male/straight, that is not my opinion btw, they specify that only candidates from x racial background , or x sexuality need apply etc. Perhaps try to insinuate during the process you're non binary or something along those lines. Employers seem to lap that stuff up, it enables them to declare they're an equal opportunity employer, which is beneficial for the bottom line in most cases. I'm not going to go into the rights or wrongs of that, from the company perspective it boils down to nothing but profit motivation, but it is what it is, so perhaps use it to your advantage.
Loll I got rejected by MongoDB for a technical writer internship last year, although my rejection came down to me being nervous and screwing some stuff up (so I was to blame). Thankfully, I was able to find another opportunity, but I felt devastated back then. There’s probably something better around the corner.
Hey man - rejection is always tough. I thought I landed my dream internship three months ago but lo and behold three months later due to difficult economic conditions, I will probably not be interning there. Also interesting that I have the same luck. Whenever I tell people about where I'm interviewing and have a good feeling about making a role, I don't end up getting it and vice versa. I guess we both just have bad luck LOL
I just had my interview today for a dual study at a big german company. I will get the results at Thursday. I hope for the best, I will keep you updated! I need to admit, that i kind of messed up the technical part.
I got an ofer from Microsoft, and another offer from a startup and I choose the start up, it went bust in just months after I joined. I have not been able to get another interview at Microsoft or any other decent place.
Great video for those who want to apply and are scared from getting rejected or for those who have been rejected. One question I ask myself: What do you think about founding your own company?
Im in a slightly diff field, security, but the job interview process majorly blows. Mainly just even getting interviews. market it flooded with experienced people right now.
Try and try until you succeed.. Thats my motto.. I got rejected many times as well, but if you got this mentality, you will be immune to the feeling of being rejected and will just keep on going..
That’s why I hate this interview process. Invest weeks into a role you think you’d be a good fit for or a role at a company you’re interested in and then get rejected. That’s madness and so much time wasted that we can’t get back. Frustrating
This video comes across as a little privileged to be honest with you. You may think Twitter followers means something to them, but ultimately they know what they are looking for and you don't (for this role on this specific team at this time). You can rehash all the reasons why they didn't hire you and speculate all day over things that you have no control over (i.e. brand risk, guy was interviewed first, etc. ), or you can focus on the things that you can change. I took some interviewee prep courses while I worked at Amazon and Microsoft, and judging from my first impressions from this video you don't have a growth mindset. If I were working as an interviewee I wouldn't hire you just based on this attitude because it speaks to how well you work on a team with others and how you deal with failure (which happens to all of us). Just a thought, but all in all worry about things you have control over versus things that are out of your control. Even keeping this video up speaks to future employers how you think about failure, so keep that in mind as well.
if you are 18, you're new to this world this is what you should pay attention to closely. recruiters can say anything they want, you do not trust their word until they have a paper for you to sign. in a contract with precise words. i know how it feels this happened to me too many times it sucks so much.
It is kind of nice and it seems out of the ordinary that Mongo set up a call. There's not a whole lot of upside in doing that for them. Sort of replaying many of the interview experiences I have had watching this. Fact is there are so many external variables that you can't control during an interview and companies turn down so many great candidates. It can literally be something as simple as someone having a bad day. Eventually you will get something and in my experience, it will actually turn out better! There are many instances where I look back and think... like wow I avoided a curve ball a few years later (companies closing down etc.). Great video!
I've been through kind of the similar thing. And when I look back, it seems like when you miss something, it is really a opportunity to reach something maybe better.
Interview process is tough. Every company has their own and there’s no way you can prepare for this experience. At some point I understood that been yourself during that process is a key to the success in the role you are applying. Something else I also understood was that if you didn’t make it, it was because it was probably not for you. I always take it positively either I got through or I was rejected. Obviously, if you can get a feedback it is always a good thing
Very important video for dealing with job rejection! Don't give up mate, that dream job is definitely out there, keep practising your craft and it will happen for you! In the meantime keep up the good content 💪
It’s rough out there. I’m a recent graduate and I’ve had a few interviews. Sometimes I haven’t don’t the challenge quick enough or sometimes I have genuinely had no idea what I needed to do. - the main thing is to just keep pushing and learning
probably because there are loads of applicants with actual teaching experience in grad school and whose main focus is developing instead of making videos big tech companies likely see this guy and realize he is much less impressive than most of the other applicants, he would have a better chance at a social outreach/marketing focused role than development
I failed in continuous attempts from 2019 to 2021, I almost always got to the last filter but then got rejected from all of them. So on 2022 I gave myself a break, and this year 2023 I will start to attempt again, wish me luck guys
5:36 In my experience, almost every company that you get interviewed to will tell you that they'll "keep in touch" I would count more on seeking another job than wishing that this company will reach back to you, as literally everyone at the company will be busy maintaining stuff, which will reduce the likelihood of them thinking about you
Damn, I am nowhere near you knowledge-wise and been getting rejected for over a year. All this time thought I was the only one having terrible luck when it came to jobs. At least they liked you enough to set up meetings to figure out the reason for the rejection. And you are absolutely right, it is 100% their loss. Be sure to hit them with maximum compensation possible if they do come back with an offer.
Hey man. I have similar experience with MongoDB. Interviewed senior data engineer role and got news that another candidate accepted their offer on the day when I finished my final round. Fucking dumb
Completely relatable. The hardest lesson I learned in all of 2022, is that the answer to the question "why did I get rejected".. is, who gives a fuck? I don't mean we should avoid constructive feedback if we can actually get it, but it's a better use of time to be where we're actually valued and wanted.
Nick I literally got my dream job from your Leetcode playlist. Because of you my wife and I are about to also move into a new house. Don’t give up!
Did you use it to refresh knowledge or did you use it to learn data structures and algos?
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I got rejected from a job I wanted - it was because someone went through the 5 rounds quicker than I did. I guess if you have the freedom to schedule your interviews make them as ‘back-to-back’ as possible
tl;dr: "we chose the other candidate because we interviewed him faster than we interviewed you. So sorry we dediced to give you a shitty interview schedule lol, anyways, thanks for wasting 69 hours of your life interviewing with us!"
@@AlFredo-sx2yy69 hiurs? Nice
I love how software engineering is 90% working your neck off for interviews and 10% working with a bunch of goofs who make you wonder how they even passed the same interview as you.
How quick is back to back? Is it 1 week?
@@AlFredo-sx2yy that's kind of the impression I got as well. Unless you're sure you can completely ace the interview and leave them astounded, you're better off not selecting the last slots.
10 years ago I passed five interviews at Microsoft.
They called me, said congratulations, and asked me for a couple of days to send me a financial offer.
Two days passed, and the contact person messages me, *hey sorry, change of plans, the position is no longer available, so we cannot hire you anymore".
I joined a smaller company, and I'm still working there ten years later. I made a career here and I'm happy, I feel valued and that I my work really matters.
It is just making the best out of what you have. It will make you grow, independent of your situation (lol there’s a minimum, I know)
Something just like this happened to me when the project the company was hiring me for lost its budget. I quit my job to take it too. Freaked out for a day then found another job within a few days
I work for Microsoft, it's not end of world if you don't work for Microsoft. You've entire world and lot of companies to try.
@@saiyashwanth1991 bro works at microsoft with a steve jobs pfp 💀
@@hackbaba999 let me tell you a fact, I got offer from both microsoft and Apple at the same time. I chose Microsoft. I've been using this dp since the time I was 16 years old.
It’s important for all developers to have a life outside of software engineering. Go the gym , hunt , fish woodwork , go for long walks , learn to draw, homestead , jogs and hikes etc .
If you put software engineering jobs on a pedestal you’ll be all the more crushed when you get rejections.
Just some advice developers should consider.
That's what I have realized in the last few years, how is a reality that there are another planets in the universe with different types of lives, even here in this world, and I am here stuck, trying to find a job? 😂 Like, I feel like the world is ending for me but I remember that and I feel better
The more i interview, and the times i think back to when i was hired, and the many times i've been rejected, ive come to realize two things
1. most of the time the person who you deal with for like 75% of the interview process (HR person or recruiter) doesn't know too much, and will really say whatever to keep you interested until you are no longer needed.
2. there is a very healthy amount of luck involved with getting the job you actually want.
I got rejected from multiple jobs(that I thought I really wanted) before I got hired at my dream job. Don't let this bring you down. You're destined for something much better!
Hi Alexander,
I am a self taught web developer and recently started applying for jobs. I mostly pass the tests given during the interviews but I lack experience when it comes to interview round with the HR or technical person. Can you please give me some advice.
Thanks
@@abhisheklingwal7961 Step 1. Get a mentor, find someone that you admire in the field and ask him/her if they could mentor you. Some will say yes, some will say no, just keep on asking.
2. Spend 95% of your time learning something that is or will be in high demand in the future(Google Cloud Services, IT security etc)...
Spend 5% on Networking, go to events, coding camps etc..
3. Dress up for the interview(shirt and tie) and smile. Companies are looking for people with knowledge of the field and people who can work in a team.
Don't waste time trying to learn interview questions, either you know how to do the job or not.
What I have learned is to leave emotions out of the process. Be excited, but not attached. It's all business. This also helps in technical interviews, so you don't feel the weight of the world on your shoulders. It will happen if it's meant to be.
I can relate to this so much. Two years ago, I desperately wanted to land a Software Engineer Internship at Amazon. Unfortunately I didn't pass the final interview. Fast forward to last year, I managed to get an internship at Microsoft even though I didn't think much of it and thought I'll also fail it. Now I'm set for Summer 2023 !
Hey Nick! I'm not too good in cheering up people, but perhaps you value this thought - It helped me a lot in similar situations... " A winner is just a loser who tried one more time" ;)
Keep going brother!
It also cheered me up. Thanks
Thanks for that one!
Wow man that made me smile. Thank you
That cheered me up! Thanks
Thanks for sharing Nick.
One key lesson is "never sleep or postpone your interview, prepare and take it on time".
This really opened my eyes ...
Great video, 2 months ago, I got failed from Amazon's interview after 5 rounds interviews as well, and even they refused to give any feedback. I was heartbroken at that time..., but now I've decided to leave these sucks in the past year! just keep moving on!
The reality for sure it is: it is better to YOU to not be on Mongodb than worse for they to not hire you. Stay Zen.
Yea, it happens man. But as you said in the end, sometimes its destiny. It happened to me, to not get hired to a role I wanted, but ended up getting something better later on. Just keep up
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I can't imagine how those company that you mention can reject you. You seems really valuable, even just watch for a couple minutes and i can know how passionate you are by the way you tell about what you did in a certain way. Hope you get better than those rejection!
Nick, from what I've learned in my humble experience is that whenever you get rejected it is for something better. It means that you don't belong there and something better is "meant" for you. Don't give up, aim high brother!
I so agree with you! ❤it always ends up to be that way.
Cope
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I'm an engineer and I've been on many interviews, the way I get over the whole rejection thing is to just expect the worse and hope for the best. I usually don't expect to get any jobs I interview for but because my expectations are so low when I do get the job it's a welcome surprise. I'd say I'm around 30% on my success rate with interviews but I only need one job so if I do at least 10 interviews I'd have 3 offers and that's good enough for me.
Well said bro Ty for the motivation!!
The main problem here is the thought of "a dream job". Jobs are just that, jobs
Whoa this came just in time for my own rejection I got with similar circumstances. 5 rounds, heavy hinting that I'm ideal, AND they even told me I was the first to complete it all. But they decided to cherry pick and wait for someone else with some more impressive background or something. Ultimately, I know I would have done amazing at the job and I'll go on to do other amazing things with or without them.
Whenever I really want a role, I don't get it, but i get other roles, I don't want.
Trust me nick, this is true for a lot of people.
Hey man, you don't have bad luck. It simply wasn't meant to be and one day if you continue pushing you'll look back at it and see how it molded you into a better position/person
I appreciate that you shared this. Been getting auto rejected a lot lately and it sucks.
I don't like the word "rejected" sometimes you just aren't the right fit. It's for the best like you said.
Thanks for this video. It really helped me with my own failure. I've been learning software development for the past 5 years while I worked in an IT job. A few months ago, I got laid off, so I decided to go all in. I gave up most of the things I loved doing, and study/practice non-stop every single day. Despite this, I absolutely suck at algorithms. I have been struggling with leetcode easy/medium questions and today after struggling to solve a single question for hours only to fail, I had a meltdown. Unfortunately, my savings and my time is running out, so I have been increasingly frustrated with how stupid I must be to spend so long on single problems when my peers can solve them in seconds or minutes. It has kept me from applying to jobs because at this rate I will only embarass myself if they give me even a simple algorithm to solve. It has made me question if I am even suitable for this role or if I have wasted the past 5 years of my life. I'm glad I am not the only one that takes failure poorly.
Also thanks for all your leetcode videos. They have helped me understand problems so that I can tackle them myself.
When you get rejected, you are one step closer to the right thing/role for you. That thing you got rejected from, it was either not the right place/role or not the right time.
You and your content mean the world to me; Love you lots man!! Stay safe and happy.
not that uncommon then uh. Dude seemed really excited to have me in the team and never texted me back. Like, I followed up but he kept ghosting me, not even to tell me that I was rejected lol
@2:20 doesn't every company tell you they found a more suitable candidate? I've never heard interviewer telling the interviewee that they're "not a strong candidate", or rejecting a candidate and telling them "you're not good enough for us"
Working in IT for 2 decades now. Most if not all jobs legally require it to be posted externally even knowing they will hire someone internally. Seen over 90 job applicants get narrowed down to 5 then after everything the internal employee gets it. Waist everyone’s time. Don’t take it personally if the person reading this got rejected. More then likely they were just going through the motions.
I just graduated from my coding bootcamp December 9th and have already faced COUNTLESS rejections so this video could not have come at a better time. Thank you for your vulnerability which in turn makes me feel less alone during this period of rapid fire rejection in my life.
It's a tough time in the market too. Don't be discouraged, you'll get there :)
@@techmentormaria Thank you, I hope so!
Keep on practicing, keep on adding to your skills, keep expanding your portfolio, do mock practice interviews, never give up ;)
I finished a full stack web dev bootcamp in feb '21 and still haven't found a job. It's a very tough market man...just gotta keep building projects.
@@zmonkey111 I watched a video on the Devslopes channel and he recommended steering away from full stack courses or indeed applying for full stack entry-level jobs. He recommended mastering front end first, because no company wants to risk back end development with junior staff (because that's heavy on data integrity and responsibility).
There's a weird hiring culture in tech where companies will take your time and put you through this long interview process, but then if you get rejected they won't give you any truthful information on why that happened. It makes it hard to learn what you need to learn, but honestly you may also want to take it as a sign that these are not companies where you actually want to work. They often end up hiring people who are good at interviewing over people who are good at the actual job.
Rejections suck but you only need one acceptance at the end of the day. And if you don't get that, create your own opportunity. Best of luck.
Yea, had a friend of mine get told "We can't give you any details on how to improve your resume/experience because then it wouldn't be a level playing field for other applicants in the future." lol
Great advice
Thanks for putting this out. Been rejected for a year and a half and had only 9 actual interviews (outside of recruiters). The problem I did find out was that I had my own programming business and, typically, that is guaranteed a rejection/ghosting due to not working with a team of developers (I did get some honest answers, and that's #1 answer: no team experience = no consideration).
Another reason for rejection was being self-taught (and no degree - though went to college in the 1990s for 4 years with 3 majors, but never finished due to $$$). That's pretty much being frowned upon (not sure why - since they always seem want a go-getter/self-starter).
Another reason was interesting: No social media presence. Since I've focused a ton on security, I kept my profile(s) private and only discuss business (no politics nor "hot" topics), and have aliases as well. Another reason for rejection was not keeping up with some particular framework (Angular was one. I said, what's wrong with Vue?) - about the only viable rejection - I totally understand.
Another reason was not having a particular skillset with a particular cloud (which kinda makes sense, however, once you've been on one "cloud", they're pretty much all the same and you can pick up a new one's syntax in a day or 2!) - better excuse, but, c'mon, really? (not to mention, if they're true Agile, most cloud tasks would be delegated to a different job positions - billing, security, container mgmt, routing/firewall, backups, disaster recovery, etc - not put all these tasks on devs).
Some rejections, I am grateful for: There was a position that required mastery of Java, C#, VB and Ruby, disaster recovery, front end (including artwork), middle tier, back end (Oracle, SQLServer, and DB2), 3 clouds + hardware experience in their own datacenter. Had to have a PhD in Computer Science and their compensation for all of this was a measly $42/hr! (you can be a Google Adwords expert and get more than this!). If someone w/a PhD had this kind of experience, I'd presume they wouldn't dumb enough to work for this rate, unless they had a felony record.
One rejection was brutally honest: "We're looking for younger candidates"
They want younger people because they are easier to push around.
much like gambling, you're only one step away from a win. thank you Nick, you have made me realise i should get back into gambling and never stop again < 3
Hey Nick - I also got rejected by mongo recently. Sucks but seeing your video helped me get over, if you didn't get a job there it makes me feel better I didn't!
Very touched by your rejection story. The best job will find you. There are too many applications on a job market due to mass layoffs by the MAANG companies that had been tough on talents like you. A lot more rejections are happenning in worst ways - like cancellation of last round interviews, being kept on standby as a back up in case their offer does not work out, asking to do take home assignments that are taken by the interviewers for their benefit or simply getting ghosted.
the worst is when they hype you up over the whole process, i wish they would have just said i sucked like man you didn’t have to get my hopes so high
Don't get disappointed brother, even though I was rejected from three SDE internships and now I'm polishing my skills. New to the channel, subscribed and liked.
You got this bro
@@Bielocke Thanks ☺
I was rejected 3x before I got hired 7 years ago. Don't give up!
No worries on this one, Nick. You'll get where you want to be through your hard work and talent. I've learned a massive amount from your channel and wish you the best of luck on your next attempt.
felt the same with my Amazon interview and I didn't keep practicing since. But new year, we gonna strive to get back and be better
Amazon is one of the most toxic companies man. Better to join a company that will value you or at least give a better work life schedule
@@techfan1017 to be honest no company cares. But yea amazon is probably the worst lol
@@Mohib3 yeah you are right but at least some do a good job at convincing you and you never really notice. I'd say Google is at least better than Amazon cause their stuff is interesting and it seems like a better culture. Still not great in sure
big things coming this year Nick 📈
I feel genuine respect for you dude..... Following you for like years...People like you who have such potential are hard to find...
I wasn't expecting but this is exactly something I needed to hear today. Thanks man. Best of luck for the future opportunities.
I am glad that you shared this; It helps put things in perspective as we try to find what we will call "The best fit for me".
I am a firm believer of whatever happens in life, happens for a really good reason. Never thought I'd get a Full Stack Software Engineering job, but I landed on back in 2022. Never be disheartened, there is always another, even BETTER opportunity coming your way.
Hey nick, i also got rejected many times for my dream jobs. I am still trying. Don’t give up!
I have recently graduated from the university with a master's degree in computer engineering and I'm living in Lebanon. I have applied for many internships and jobs. I have been rejected from a lot of companies and some companies didn't even reply to me even though I tried to communicate with the recruiters but no one responded. The reason I get rejected is because I don't have a previous professional in such a field. I'm working on myself at home to build projects etc. to gain more experience but the problem is no company is willing even to give you the oppurtionity to train you and see if you really have what it takes for this job, Moreover, how do some companies expect from fresh gradutaes to have 2/3+ years experience when they have just graduated?! sometimes the demand for the experience for an entry level job is a little bit silly especially when you are a fresh gradute.
Two days ago I got rejected by MongoDB too, for a Software Engineer role. The process lasted 8 weeks, 8 interviews and I completed the process, I passed all the interviews. When I was expecting to receive an offer, considering all the super-positive feedback that I received (they even asked when could I receive my computer), they rejected me. Very polite. But rejected me. Very positive feedback though. But rejected me. Still in shock. I have ~3-4 years of experience and this feels like a hard hit to me :(
Insane what we have to go through to be able to make a living. The inflation adjusted median income during the great depression was $80k/yr, how far we've fallen )=
Last year I applied to Eastman School of Music for their masters in organ program and auditioned after being encouraged to do so. I got rejected mid March. I took a gap year and reapplied to Eastman and all. I went to the audition and played some of the hardest repertoire there is for organ. I think I had a bad audition because I made ten mistakes. Last March 23, I got rejected again.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who seems to be always getting rejected for things I really want so badly. I guess it’s Eastman’s loss.
Hey Nick 👋🏼
I just started learning about code so the algorithm brought this video, I’ve always wanted to learn code but the REAL reason I’m learning is because there is a rumor we’re getting laid off in April 💔
Soo I’m keeping the “there are better opportunities” coming ahead ✨ so thanks! Greetings from 🇭🇳
Lol, I got rejected from a job at Tesla Motors and I wanna tell you, It's ok bro. Maybe you're meant to make your own company in the future. Don't give up :)
I was rejected from Google phone interview. I was surprised that the interview had little to do with date structures and algorithms and made few mistakes on semantics of a specific language I was using. Just got unlucky with a really bad interviewer
Yeah, I can not agree more that sometimes it's just bad luck and their loss to miss you. I bet you will have a better job this year!
I recently interviewed with a company got to the final round and expected an offer just for them to say they are changing the role completely and no longer looking for that role.
We love you Nick! Keep it up bro! You're always delivering great content! You're going to be stronger and much better off going forward!
Put it like this bro, the company who gets you will be hella lucky because you are someone who puts the work in even when they don't know the answer like a real dev they find it. I can't wait to see your future success bro
I'm currently on my final year of college, and i was the goto student for my professor and friends when they got stuck on coding (especially on Python and Machine Learning problem) so when i apply for a python developer role and got interview. And when i got rejected i feel like shit and can't get over it, i feel like it's not fair i thought i qualified for the job. But then i moved on and maybe just focus on my final year and improve my portfolio
A big part of a hiring decision comes down to personality, an interview is akin to a dumb high school popularity contest, the amount of times I've seen people far less experienced and qualified get a position over someone who just acts charming, outgoing and extrovert for the interview (despite often turning out to be a dick or incompetent), well, it kind of sucks but people are shallow. I just have an act I've perfected. I can be a charming extrovert for the length of an interview, once I'm in I'll just revert to my natural introverted state, I go to work for money, I have no interest in making friends or being popular etc.
No offence meant, idk how you act at interview, but I'd rather have the truth over someone trying to spare my feels. To me you come across as kind of emotionally flat, a bit miserable, somewhat monotone. Most interviewers wont have the balls to tell you that when asking for feedback, they'll simply choose someone who makes them feel good when they're conversing and give a cottonwool excuse to someone who is perhaps far better qualified but didn't come across well.
Also many jobs where I am discriminate against caucasian/male/straight, that is not my opinion btw, they specify that only candidates from x racial background , or x sexuality need apply etc. Perhaps try to insinuate during the process you're non binary or something along those lines. Employers seem to lap that stuff up, it enables them to declare they're an equal opportunity employer, which is beneficial for the bottom line in most cases. I'm not going to go into the rights or wrongs of that, from the company perspective it boils down to nothing but profit motivation, but it is what it is, so perhaps use it to your advantage.
Loll I got rejected by MongoDB for a technical writer internship last year, although my rejection came down to me being nervous and screwing some stuff up (so I was to blame). Thankfully, I was able to find another opportunity, but I felt devastated back then. There’s probably something better around the corner.
Thanks for sharing, humbling experiences only become internalized humiliation if you are too prideful to be able share them
Omg why ?! You are so good man! Learnt a lot from your videos!!!
Hey man - rejection is always tough. I thought I landed my dream internship three months ago but lo and behold three months later due to difficult economic conditions, I will probably not be interning there. Also interesting that I have the same luck. Whenever I tell people about where I'm interviewing and have a good feeling about making a role, I don't end up getting it and vice versa. I guess we both just have bad luck LOL
Dude feels genuine. Good stuff.
I just had my interview today for a dual study at a big german company. I will get the results at Thursday. I hope for the best, I will keep you updated! I need to admit, that i kind of messed up the technical part.
I got rejected too for the most role i wanted so hard :( but I keep going and i will not give up. I feel you Nick keep going we gonna do it
Thanks for sharing!
I got an ofer from Microsoft, and another offer from a startup and I choose the start up, it went bust in just months after I joined. I have not been able to get another interview at Microsoft or any other decent place.
Great video for those who want to apply and are scared from getting rejected or for those who have been rejected.
One question I ask myself: What do you think about founding your own company?
Im in a slightly diff field, security, but the job interview process majorly blows. Mainly just even getting interviews. market it flooded with experienced people right now.
bruh if nick can't get hired, I'm fucked lmao
Try and try until you succeed.. Thats my motto.. I got rejected many times as well, but if you got this mentality, you will be immune to the feeling of being rejected and will just keep on going..
Sorry to hear about that, but could you kindly share the link of the lights behind you.
"I was applying to be senior developer advocate for search, and I didn't really know much about search..."
this door closed for you but don't forget you will get an open door one day, its always for the best
That’s why I hate this interview process. Invest weeks into a role you think you’d be a good fit for or a role at a company you’re interested in and then get rejected. That’s madness and so much time wasted that we can’t get back. Frustrating
This video comes across as a little privileged to be honest with you. You may think Twitter followers means something to them, but ultimately they know what they are looking for and you don't (for this role on this specific team at this time). You can rehash all the reasons why they didn't hire you and speculate all day over things that you have no control over (i.e. brand risk, guy was interviewed first, etc. ), or you can focus on the things that you can change.
I took some interviewee prep courses while I worked at Amazon and Microsoft, and judging from my first impressions from this video you don't have a growth mindset. If I were working as an interviewee I wouldn't hire you just based on this attitude because it speaks to how well you work on a team with others and how you deal with failure (which happens to all of us).
Just a thought, but all in all worry about things you have control over versus things that are out of your control. Even keeping this video up speaks to future employers how you think about failure, so keep that in mind as well.
if you are 18, you're new to this world this is what you should pay attention to closely.
recruiters can say anything they want, you do not trust their word until they have a paper for you to sign.
in a contract with precise words.
i know how it feels this happened to me too many times it sucks so much.
It is kind of nice and it seems out of the ordinary that Mongo set up a call. There's not a whole lot of upside in doing that for them. Sort of replaying many of the interview experiences I have had watching this. Fact is there are so many external variables that you can't control during an interview and companies turn down so many great candidates. It can literally be something as simple as someone having a bad day. Eventually you will get something and in my experience, it will actually turn out better! There are many instances where I look back and think... like wow I avoided a curve ball a few years later (companies closing down etc.). Great video!
It's okay! She doesn't know what she's missing, Nick!
this year i would be finally be giving the first job interview of my life, kinda scared a little😢😢
Dude, idk who you are but if you read this: Cut your hair like you had it back then. Dude you look so much more attracive with shorter hai
I've been through kind of the similar thing. And when I look back, it seems like when you miss something, it is really a opportunity to reach something maybe better.
Man what a bad experience you just described about mongodb, didn't know they have so bad recruitment process and very disorganized...
good at search? what is search? what is it exactly
Interview process is tough. Every company has their own and there’s no way you can prepare for this experience. At some point I understood that been yourself during that process is a key to the success in the role you are applying. Something else I also understood was that if you didn’t make it, it was because it was probably not for you. I always take it positively either I got through or I was rejected. Obviously, if you can get a feedback it is always a good thing
Very important video for dealing with job rejection! Don't give up mate, that dream job is definitely out there, keep practising your craft and it will happen for you! In the meantime keep up the good content 💪
rejection is redirection
It’s rough out there. I’m a recent graduate and I’ve had a few interviews. Sometimes I haven’t don’t the challenge quick enough or sometimes I have genuinely had no idea what I needed to do. - the main thing is to just keep pushing and learning
I am so disappointed about them standing you up like that and also their overall behaviour.
Can already see the difference with the health transformation. Keep it up genuinely impressive!
The person who is teaching DSA getting rejected. Life is hard sometimes. All the best. Don't give up.
probably because there are loads of applicants with actual teaching experience in grad school and whose main focus is developing instead of making videos
big tech companies likely see this guy and realize he is much less impressive than most of the other applicants, he would have a better chance at a social outreach/marketing focused role than development
Those who can’t, teach.
I failed in continuous attempts from 2019 to 2021, I almost always got to the last filter but then got rejected from all of them. So on 2022 I gave myself a break, and this year 2023 I will start to attempt again, wish me luck guys
good luck
Good luck keep trying 👍
3:00 is that a cat stevens song in the background ? what was its name ?
Imagine a person you started to date did this to you. It's messed up and wrong. Don't go back.
5:36 In my experience, almost every company that you get interviewed to will tell you that they'll "keep in touch"
I would count more on seeking another job than wishing that this company will reach back to you, as literally everyone at the company will be busy maintaining stuff, which will reduce the likelihood of them thinking about you
Damn, I am nowhere near you knowledge-wise and been getting rejected for over a year. All this time thought I was the only one having terrible luck when it came to jobs. At least they liked you enough to set up meetings to figure out the reason for the rejection. And you are absolutely right, it is 100% their loss. Be sure to hit them with maximum compensation possible if they do come back with an offer.
Atleast you are getting an opportunity to interview man ! Some people are not even getting that .
I bombed my first interview at Apple so hard, the year was 1993.
Hey man. I have similar experience with MongoDB. Interviewed senior data engineer role and got news that another candidate accepted their offer on the day when I finished my final round. Fucking dumb
Completely relatable. The hardest lesson I learned in all of 2022, is that the answer to the question "why did I get rejected".. is, who gives a fuck? I don't mean we should avoid constructive feedback if we can actually get it, but it's a better use of time to be where we're actually valued and wanted.
You do not have bad luck, it just didn't work out. There are more opportunities, just keep going! 🔥
This is why I’m very content with working a smaller or mid size company as a developer. FANG companies are way too competitive to work at
Thanks for the motivation. Just starting my journey into a low cost CS degree. On a side note, it would've been great to see you in Japan!