The biggest question is why do they call it 200 or 300? why not Lenny or Rennie? its stupid how football coaches just copy other coaches terminology when all of it is just mumbling words
Eli Halaby I typically explain an overload as any time when a team has a numbers advantage on one side of the field (for both offense or defense). Some times on paper/board it may not present as a true overload, but game planning and film may find that it's still a threat for an overload. In the video, it's split with three defenders on each side. However the offense's right side is under more of a threat for an overload, hence why I called that the overload side.
An overload is simply where one team has a number's advantage or shows signs of pressure. In this case, an overload is when the defense has outnumbered the offense in an area of a field, or has matched the offense up with numbers, and all the matched up defenders are showing signs they are going to rush/blitz
Louis Mayall Not really. This protection was almost exclusively for 5-7 step drops (and was the most preferred for 7-step). Plus the play Rogers checked too would not be in the 3-step category.
His response is inaccurate. It's not over preference to call something 200 vs 2 when it comes to Jet protection in the West Coast System - there is a substantive difference. Understand that WCO passing is rooted in rhythm (qb drops correlating with WR route depth/ultimately aggressiveness of blocking). So when you add "00" to the end of 2 Jet, you've created a 3 digit system - the 3 denotes a 3 step drop/quick-game minded blocking. You see the same thing in other standard protections such as "22" or "71" - when you tag a "3" before them (322, 371), the entire play from a timing perspective. So while a "200 Jet Y Stick U Over" and "2 Jet Y Stick U Over" sound roughly the same, you'd end up in a nightmare scenario if the QB took the wrong drop during each respective concept.
Sprint Option im not sure if thats correct for the jet protection. I know you can add a three to certain protections such as the 20 series and what not to make it a 3 step drop but every playbook ive read doesnt correlate with what you said about jet protection. And the other guy said the same thing in the comment section and the other guy gave his reasoning for it being false which seems pretty true
Nicholas Pfarner www.playbookexchange.net/playbooks/Offense/01130301-WestCoast.pdf Check page 16 for an explanation. Alternatively, download one of Gruden's, Holmgren's, Walsh's, or Shanahan's playbooks, they all will denote the difference in protections. The distinction between the 2 is clear and important! Moreover you'll see both 2 Jet and 200 Jet in the same playbook - which isnt trivial, because making random distinctions for no reason would be confusing. Normally 2 Jet is used for longer plays (2 Jet Dino Y Shallow Cross), while 200 is almost always used for slant/stick concepts (200 Jet X Slant, 200 Jet Y Stick Lion). But you will never see a 200 Jet Dino or 200 Jet All-Go Special; the protection would be suicide.
The biggest question is why do they call it 200 or 300? why not Lenny or Rennie? its stupid how football coaches just copy other coaches terminology when all of it is just mumbling words
can you explain how to define an overload more in depth
Eli Halaby I typically explain an overload as any time when a team has a numbers advantage on one side of the field (for both offense or defense). Some times on paper/board it may not present as a true overload, but game planning and film may find that it's still a threat for an overload. In the video, it's split with three defenders on each side. However the offense's right side is under more of a threat for an overload, hence why I called that the overload side.
An overload is simply where one team has a number's advantage or shows signs of pressure. In this case, an overload is when the defense has outnumbered the offense in an area of a field, or has matched the offense up with numbers, and all the matched up defenders are showing signs they are going to rush/blitz
Am I right in thinking that 200 jet indicates a three step drop, while 2 jet is a 5/7?
Louis Mayall Not really. This protection was almost exclusively for 5-7 step drops (and was the most preferred for 7-step). Plus the play Rogers checked too would not be in the 3-step category.
In the West Coast offense any protection with three digits is a three step drop, so yes 200 jet is a 3 step drop
So whats the difference between 2/3 jet and 200/300 jet?
There isn't. Some people just prefer to call it one or the other.
Justin Schnurer thank you
His response is inaccurate. It's not over preference to call something 200 vs 2 when it comes to Jet protection in the West Coast System - there is a substantive difference.
Understand that WCO passing is rooted in rhythm (qb drops correlating with WR route depth/ultimately aggressiveness of blocking).
So when you add "00" to the end of 2 Jet, you've created a 3 digit system - the 3 denotes a 3 step drop/quick-game minded blocking. You see the same thing in other standard protections such as "22" or "71" - when you tag a "3" before them (322, 371), the entire play from a timing perspective.
So while a "200 Jet Y Stick U Over" and "2 Jet Y Stick U Over" sound roughly the same, you'd end up in a nightmare scenario if the QB took the wrong drop during each respective concept.
Sprint Option im not sure if thats correct for the jet protection. I know you can add a three to certain protections such as the 20 series and what not to make it a 3 step drop but every playbook ive read doesnt correlate with what you said about jet protection. And the other guy said the same thing in the comment section and the other guy gave his reasoning for it being false which seems pretty true
Nicholas Pfarner
www.playbookexchange.net/playbooks/Offense/01130301-WestCoast.pdf
Check page 16 for an explanation.
Alternatively, download one of Gruden's, Holmgren's, Walsh's, or Shanahan's playbooks, they all will denote the difference in protections. The distinction between the 2 is clear and important!
Moreover you'll see both 2 Jet and 200 Jet in the same playbook - which isnt trivial, because making random distinctions for no reason would be confusing.
Normally 2 Jet is used for longer plays (2 Jet Dino Y Shallow Cross), while 200 is almost always used for slant/stick concepts (200 Jet X Slant, 200 Jet Y Stick Lion). But you will never see a 200 Jet Dino or 200 Jet All-Go Special; the protection would be suicide.