It will never make sense to me that they made a live-service, microtransaction-based game and didn't have a monetisation strategy. How do you not have a bunch of skins and cosmetics lined up for at least a good year long pipeline? Also was hilarious reading some of the responses to Jason Schreier saying SSKTJL failed because of "woke", whatever the hell that even means.
I disagree. People don’t just want Batman. People want good games and continuity to existing worlds. There’s no way Arkham Batman loses to the suicide squad especially without his no kill rule. It’s terrible writing and breaks continuity. It’s really not hard to understand. If Arkham batman took wonder womans role in the game and dies fighting Superman then I don’t think backlash would’ve been as bad. People want a Superman or flash game more than anything. Not just Batman
@@JayShockblast imagine if flash or Superman actually used their abilities. Flash literally ripped a persons heart out. U mean to tell me he can’t kill every one of the suicide squad? This is what I mean when I say terrible writing and continuity. Can’t be defended
Sorry, but I didn't want a Batman game. I just wanted a Superman/Justice League game, but we got the worst game of 2024. I know some people like it, but the majority have made up their minds. I agree that we should've got more reconizable characters to play when making this game. After this game, I'm over Harley Quinn. I don't wanna see her again, but DC will keep pushing her. Even though I don't want another batman game but you might be right Jay seems like the safest choice
No need to defend or damage control. A single player super man game would be gold or just a diablo style justice league would have sold well. A live service game was the priority and everything else was second. Even at base from the trailer to seeing gameplay marvels avengers was better. Devs need to stop trying to merge every fantasy or sci-fi ip to a shooter for more sales. Side note: There is nothing to buy because the launch failed. Then again you always defend super hero games for some reason.
the characters were designed to all use the same guns to make new characters easier to roll-out in a live-service approach. So yes I agree, they chose live-service over everything else, even if it meant destroying their character's essences in the process
No one cares that it’s not Batman they care because the games play like dog crap nearly every review on steam is negative and why have micro transactions on a story player game it was doomed from the beginning you don’t see people buying skins for Batman on his games that game doesn’t even have the same feel of the Batman games I think that’s what the problem is it’s pretty clear that they actually tried on Batman 😂
I love the gameplay but after u beat Brainiac it becomes stale ppl on my friendslist get to lvl 10 and stop playing They just need to release everything they have for the game and start working on something else that's going to make them profit or have a better reception this is just my opinion if they did this style of game with the justice league it probably would have been better received
If they made a multiplayer co-op focused Justice League game, WB would be crying from massive success. But they mandated this game, to continue their ridiculous and forced over exposure of Harly Quinn. They chose to NOT make what people wanted. I would have kept playing this game if the skins were better or the combat had more too it. It's a shallow AAA game. The world could have been more alive, and interactive. There could have been more co-op moves, but it's all a little lazy.
I don't agree with that krunalpatel. Marvel's Avengers problem was they couldn't keep up with content and how broken it was. If they could have kept a SSKTJL pacing they would still be here today.
Oh it's a LOT lazy! We could have had an offline single player beat em up game with four different fighting styles at least! And more characters that could have been unlocked as you played! Instead of insulting guns!😡
I’m so disappointed in this game. When it first launched I was psyched. A game to fill the void from Marvel Heroes and Avengers games, and there’s stuff I liked I like the voice actors and the interactions between the characters. The game mostly ran okay until a patch they did that totally broke the game. Then Joker came out and that’s when I bounced. First there was a bug that prevented me from playing for a couple of days, then the fact that you have to grind out to get him. He should had been an instant unlock and not for 10 dollars either which they did. They totally killed their game at that point at least for me. I’ve deleted the game and I’m not returning.
I really tried to love this game Jay but every update just kind of makes the game worse they take 10 steps forward and then 20 steps back no I don't know I don't see this game being successful in the future all they can do is release all the characters at least all the plan content and then move on it sucks cuz I did like this game it's just too broken to keep supporting
They ruined Harley's hair....I get the psychotic hair style...but give her a few hairstyles that'll look good on her...they clearly dont want Harley to look attractive in this game...and they pretty much said screw Deadshots mask
Imma be honest, if this wasnt a live service game where they cut the true ending to fit that then maybe it wouldve had been given a better chance. Hear me out, imagine playing through Arkham knight and the main game "ended" with Joker taking Bruce's body and you had to wait 12 months while getting mid skins to see if he stays that way. Regardless if its leaked that batman regains his body to the large majority who played the game theyll assume that joker won. Just like here, if you cut off the ending for SS and have the squad "die" just for 12-24 months later to be revealed that they aren't dead but clones, or revived the damage is already done. You hid this for a year instead of giving to us at launch and making the dlc based off something else. Imagine the knight dlc being about Catwoman, Harley, bat girl, knight wing, robin each fighting joker man and it does nothing to evolve the plot, we are still at the same area we were when joker took over batman. Like ss, we had 2 episodes and none of them have anything to do with saving the league, just filler. If rock steady were to make a super man, green lantern, wonder woman, flash game, heck even a John Constantine game with the same respect they gave Arkham batman then people will just ate it up. Not everyone wants another batman game, theres a few that do but they want more in the Arkham universe, and SSKTJL wasnt the way to do it. They shouldve made it in the Arkham verse but on another Earth, and have the prime league feom the main earth help the squad. THEN they couldve gotten away with taking out the league, but nahh, make ot live service just for the sake of it.
I don’t need Batman, I just want a superhero game that isn’t too silly or goofy. Marvel has taken it to the extreme which is why everyone wants to see Deadpool and Wolverine chop each other up for 2 hours. These companies are treating superhero’s as a kids market, X-men 97 had maturity though. But for the most part it seems like they are targeting kids not people with standards.
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I was always under the impression there was enough demand for single player games featuring other DC heroes or the Justice League as a whole. I think Suicide Squad KTJL failing is more to do with it being live service and set in the Arkham universe even though it doesn’t really fit. The Arkham games peaked with City and Batman really needs a break now. Gotham Knights was pretty much everything Batman without Batman think that’s why it wasn’t well received. Also I think it started off as live service and was reworked into a single player game so there was a stench of live service style mechanics such as the gear.
Only because of the live service stuff, not because it was in the Arkhamverse!! Because it aint how it works. If Rocksteady was offered by WB a DC project like Suicide Squad in general, then it strictly has to be in the Arkhamverse, no exceptions!! Because it doesn’t make any sense for Rocksteady to make two DC Arkhamverse lores. It just doesnt!! Personally i was excited it was in the Arkhamverse, still am, but a bit dissapointed how it turned out at launch, still wont hate on the game, never!!
As someone who hasn't played the game, and has gone solely on reviews from others, as well as my own personal preferences... this game has never appealed to me. I don't like the overall aesthetic of it, the combat looks disjointed, the story and lore of this universe were uninteresting. I also didn't like that every character seems to essentially shoot guns aiming at purple orbs to defeat enemies. I've never been a strong fan of The Suicide Squad to begin with, and the game simply didn't grab my attention as a non-fan of this anti-hero group. At this point, the only way I'd play this game is if I get it free on the Epic Game Store or the PlayStation Plus Monthly Games freebies.
And nobody cares if Batman in the game We just like the styling of it the combat all of that instead we got a Fortnite rip off with numbers popping up on the screen No strategizing not being a detective nothing. Also we were advocating to focus on different characters instead of Batman.
Arkham Justice League would be an easy layup for them right now! And it would be awesome to ACTUALLY PLAY AS THE JUSTICE LEAGUE instead of disrespecting them! All they need to do is fire Sweet baby and their golden!😎
enemy snipers wouldn't have been designed to two tap you if it was a melee focused game... Its amazing that you're arguing melee wouldn't have worked because of how enemies were designed in the gun focused game they chose to make.
In my opinion, the game made no sense I keep asking myself. Like “why didn’t the flash run back into the past to warn the justice league of what will happen” but they didn’t even do this. This game was a joke and made to make a joke of the universe. Not even just that, but why add the black deadshot and call it cannon. Like all this time like why change him white just because of a movies popularity lol. FYI suicide squad movie wasn’t all that good. It was at most decent.
I don’t understand the hate for the game tho….. it’s a live service game with the option to play single player? I purchased it a few days ago and I’ve been having a blast
@@Acrid17right this game is nowhere near the level of their previous games. We know what they can do and they put out something that is by far less than
To be honest I agree that this game is pretty good and fun. I actually love the story.(Which is still and ongoing one.) I really think if you bought the game to play batman or get an arkham experience even after the trailers and gameplay reveals you're a fucking idiot. Also people complain about microtransactions just to cry and beg for them. Makes no sense.
I’ve put hours into SSKJL the gameplay is fun but is repetitive 😅 I have stayed a loyal fan of rocksteady and if don’t go past season 4 I am selling my copy and honestly if they give up they should give everyone refunds who paid for it 😅
So basically I got one question I am someone who paid 70 bucks for SSKJL and I would like to 100 percent now is it getting shut down so I can sell my copy for 33 bucks while it’s worth that much thank you 😅
Nahh u take batman villains we get a batman game if not keep it we don't need another Fortnite multiple universe RPG give me your money type game and second don't market it as a continuation of Arkham then get mad at us when we don't like it And we don't have to settle for less we the consumer And we don't have to allow different games if we don't want to If that was the case a lot of games would be running for game of the year cough cough starcraft
The copium is real with you and caboose on this title. Defending it months ago then bashing it, as if you didn't already know it was trash. It's just for clicks at this point.
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It will never make sense to me that they made a live-service, microtransaction-based game and didn't have a monetisation strategy. How do you not have a bunch of skins and cosmetics lined up for at least a good year long pipeline? Also was hilarious reading some of the responses to Jason Schreier saying SSKTJL failed because of "woke", whatever the hell that even means.
100%! He cooked them in the comments! I also agree, the monetization has been baffling.
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I disagree. People don’t just want Batman. People want good games and continuity to existing worlds. There’s no way Arkham Batman loses to the suicide squad especially without his no kill rule. It’s terrible writing and breaks continuity. It’s really not hard to understand. If Arkham batman took wonder womans role in the game and dies fighting Superman then I don’t think backlash would’ve been as bad. People want a Superman or flash game more than anything. Not just Batman
Don’t forget the games graphics looks worst too😂
Imagine if they could finish the story and you find out that wasn't actually Batman
@@JayShockblastit was Batman they aren’t clones they are just getting revived
@@JayShockblast imagine if flash or Superman actually used their abilities. Flash literally ripped a persons heart out. U mean to tell me he can’t kill every one of the suicide squad? This is what I mean when I say terrible writing and continuity. Can’t be defended
I don't see how a superman or flash game can work, especially if your talking about open world
Sorry, but I didn't want a Batman game. I just wanted a Superman/Justice League game, but we got the worst game of 2024. I know some people like it, but the majority have made up their minds. I agree that we should've got more reconizable characters to play when making this game. After this game, I'm over Harley Quinn. I don't wanna see her again, but DC will keep pushing her. Even though I don't want another batman game but you might be right Jay seems like the safest choice
This is your fault for not buying enough skins
Oh NO!
Maybe I should have sold a kidney or something!😂
Buying skins for Marvel Avengers didn't help that game either... and I bought several to help support the developers.
No need to defend or damage control. A single player super man game would be gold or just a diablo style justice league would have sold well. A live service game was the priority and everything else was second. Even at base from the trailer to seeing gameplay
marvels avengers was better. Devs need to stop trying to merge every fantasy or sci-fi ip to a shooter for more sales. Side note: There is nothing to buy because the launch failed. Then again you always defend super hero games for some reason.
There is no damage control here.
the characters were designed to all use the same guns to make new characters easier to roll-out in a live-service approach. So yes I agree, they chose live-service over everything else, even if it meant destroying their character's essences in the process
so basically what we've been saying for years this game was dead arrival from the very start in my opinion.
No one cares that it’s not Batman they care because the games play like dog crap nearly every review on steam is negative and why have micro transactions on a story player game it was doomed from the beginning you don’t see people buying skins for Batman on his games that game doesn’t even have the same feel of the Batman games I think that’s what the problem is it’s pretty clear that they actually tried on Batman 😂
There were a shitload of things to buy in Arkham Knight.
I love the gameplay but after u beat Brainiac it becomes stale ppl on my friendslist get to lvl 10 and stop playing They just need to release everything they have for the game and start working on something else that's going to make them profit or have a better reception this is just my opinion if they did this style of game with the justice league it probably would have been better received
If they made a multiplayer co-op focused Justice League game, WB would be crying from massive success. But they mandated this game, to continue their ridiculous and forced over exposure of Harly Quinn. They chose to NOT make what people wanted. I would have kept playing this game if the skins were better or the combat had more too it. It's a shallow AAA game. The world could have been more alive, and interactive. There could have been more co-op moves, but it's all a little lazy.
I completely agree that a live service, co-op Justice League game would have worked better and had a better shot at success.
I mean yeah but if you seen what happened to Marvel’s Avengers, I guarenteed it would end up like that!!
@krunalpatel1118 Marvel's Avengers gameplay was too clunky...with lack of content
I don't agree with that krunalpatel. Marvel's Avengers problem was they couldn't keep up with content and how broken it was. If they could have kept a SSKTJL pacing they would still be here today.
Oh it's a LOT lazy!
We could have had an offline single player beat em up game with four different fighting styles at least!
And more characters that could have been unlocked as you played!
Instead of insulting guns!😡
I’m so disappointed in this game. When it first launched I was psyched. A game to fill the void from Marvel Heroes and Avengers games, and there’s stuff I liked I like the voice actors and the interactions between the characters. The game mostly ran okay until a patch they did that totally broke the game. Then Joker came out and that’s when I bounced. First there was a bug that prevented me from playing for a couple of days, then the fact that you have to grind out to get him. He should had been an instant unlock and not for 10 dollars either which they did. They totally killed their game at that point at least for me. I’ve deleted the game and I’m not returning.
I dont feel bad. They ruined the series on purpose and are surprised its a failure🤷♂️
Yes they absolutely spent seven years trying to tank their company and their jobs. That's completely rational.
I think Sweet baby did it,not Rocksteady!😡
I really tried to love this game Jay but every update just kind of makes the game worse they take 10 steps forward and then 20 steps back no I don't know I don't see this game being successful in the future all they can do is release all the characters at least all the plan content and then move on it sucks cuz I did like this game it's just too broken to keep supporting
They ruined Harley's hair....I get the psychotic hair style...but give her a few hairstyles that'll look good on her...they clearly dont want Harley to look attractive in this game...and they pretty much said screw Deadshots mask
Imma be honest, if this wasnt a live service game where they cut the true ending to fit that then maybe it wouldve had been given a better chance.
Hear me out, imagine playing through Arkham knight and the main game "ended" with Joker taking Bruce's body and you had to wait 12 months while getting mid skins to see if he stays that way. Regardless if its leaked that batman regains his body to the large majority who played the game theyll assume that joker won. Just like here, if you cut off the ending for SS and have the squad "die" just for 12-24 months later to be revealed that they aren't dead but clones, or revived the damage is already done. You hid this for a year instead of giving to us at launch and making the dlc based off something else. Imagine the knight dlc being about Catwoman, Harley, bat girl, knight wing, robin each fighting joker man and it does nothing to evolve the plot, we are still at the same area we were when joker took over batman. Like ss, we had 2 episodes and none of them have anything to do with saving the league, just filler.
If rock steady were to make a super man, green lantern, wonder woman, flash game, heck even a John Constantine game with the same respect they gave Arkham batman then people will just ate it up. Not everyone wants another batman game, theres a few that do but they want more in the Arkham universe, and SSKTJL wasnt the way to do it. They shouldve made it in the Arkham verse but on another Earth, and have the prime league feom the main earth help the squad. THEN they couldve gotten away with taking out the league, but nahh, make ot live service just for the sake of it.
I don’t need Batman, I just want a superhero game that isn’t too silly or goofy. Marvel has taken it to the extreme which is why everyone wants to see Deadpool and Wolverine chop each other up for 2 hours. These companies are treating superhero’s as a kids market, X-men 97 had maturity though. But for the most part it seems like they are targeting kids not people with standards.
If the game was a good single player story game, I think it would have been decent.
The guys who made redfall were pretty good before they closed
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I was always under the impression there was enough demand for single player games featuring other DC heroes or the Justice League as a whole. I think Suicide Squad KTJL failing is more to do with it being live service and set in the Arkham universe even though it doesn’t really fit. The Arkham games peaked with City and Batman really needs a break now. Gotham Knights was pretty much everything Batman without Batman think that’s why it wasn’t well received. Also I think it started off as live service and was reworked into a single player game so there was a stench of live service style mechanics such as the gear.
Only because of the live service stuff, not because it was in the Arkhamverse!! Because it aint how it works. If Rocksteady was offered by WB a DC project like Suicide Squad in general, then it strictly has to be in the Arkhamverse, no exceptions!! Because it doesn’t make any sense for Rocksteady to make two DC Arkhamverse lores. It just doesnt!! Personally i was excited it was in the Arkhamverse, still am, but a bit dissapointed how it turned out at launch, still wont hate on the game, never!!
As someone who hasn't played the game, and has gone solely on reviews from others, as well as my own personal preferences... this game has never appealed to me. I don't like the overall aesthetic of it, the combat looks disjointed, the story and lore of this universe were uninteresting. I also didn't like that every character seems to essentially shoot guns aiming at purple orbs to defeat enemies. I've never been a strong fan of The Suicide Squad to begin with, and the game simply didn't grab my attention as a non-fan of this anti-hero group. At this point, the only way I'd play this game is if I get it free on the Epic Game Store or the PlayStation Plus Monthly Games freebies.
And nobody cares if Batman in the game We just like the styling of it the combat all of that instead we got a Fortnite rip off with numbers popping up on the screen No strategizing not being a detective nothing. Also we were advocating to focus on different characters instead of Batman.
Arkham Justice League would be an easy layup for them right now!
And it would be awesome to ACTUALLY PLAY AS THE JUSTICE LEAGUE instead of disrespecting them!
All they need to do is fire Sweet baby and their golden!😎
enemy snipers wouldn't have been designed to two tap you if it was a melee focused game... Its amazing that you're arguing melee wouldn't have worked because of how enemies were designed in the gun focused game they chose to make.
In my opinion, the game made no sense I keep asking myself. Like “why didn’t the flash run back into the past to warn the justice league of what will happen” but they didn’t even do this. This game was a joke and made to make a joke of the universe. Not even just that, but why add the black deadshot and call it cannon. Like all this time like why change him white just because of a movies popularity lol. FYI suicide squad movie wasn’t all that good. It was at most decent.
I don’t understand the hate for the game tho….. it’s a live service game with the option to play single player? I purchased it a few days ago and I’ve been having a blast
If your saying that you’ve probably not played the Batman games it’s so clear that they didn’t even try on this game😂
@@Acrid17right this game is nowhere near the level of their previous games. We know what they can do and they put out something that is by far less than
To be honest I agree that this game is pretty good and fun. I actually love the story.(Which is still and ongoing one.) I really think if you bought the game to play batman or get an arkham experience even after the trailers and gameplay reveals you're a fucking idiot. Also people complain about microtransactions just to cry and beg for them. Makes no sense.
Arkham knight had a battlepass?? What ??
I’ve put hours into SSKJL the gameplay is fun but is repetitive 😅 I have stayed a loyal fan of rocksteady and if don’t go past season 4 I am selling my copy and honestly if they give up they should give everyone refunds who paid for it 😅
So basically I got one question I am someone who paid 70 bucks for SSKJL and I would like to 100 percent now is it getting shut down so I can sell my copy for 33 bucks while it’s worth that much thank you 😅
Nahh u take batman villains we get a batman game if not keep it we don't need another Fortnite multiple universe RPG give me your money type game and second don't market it as a continuation of Arkham then get mad at us when we don't like it And we don't have to settle for less we the consumer And we don't have to allow different games if we don't want to If that was the case a lot of games would be running for game of the year cough cough starcraft
They should've done a Green Arrow game.
Glad I kept my money 😂
The copium is real with you and caboose on this title. Defending it months ago then bashing it, as if you didn't already know it was trash. It's just for clicks at this point.
Legion of doom game would have been better and instead of killing the justice league u save them from brainaic
The story looks interesting and the graphics and story and that's about it
Damn
Games pos sry
Boring 🪴