One or more decision makers are benefitting from this, whether financially, they know the developers, or someone wants to keep "those people" in a certain area. I really admire the local residents are being active in calling this out.
5,000 square foot lots?? That's urban core density, downtown tenement housing density! But on top of a hill. These pols don't care, they won't be personally affected, which makes them complicit in reducing quality of life for existing Encanto residents. Also, these two plans contribute to the continuing "shrinkflation" of housing around the country. #greed
to dissuade you from even trying ...same with any laws that are passed it costs millions to get an appeal all the way through lower courts and up to SCOTUS while the Govt is using YOUR tax dollars to fight its own citizens
No one needs a 20,000 s.f.lot. Land is overpriced and you need to get as many homes on a project to keep housing costs lower. If anything the city needs to write laws for projects that increase density and require the developers to build lower priced, affordable homes to get their projects approved.
The reduced lot sizes are the same size most cities have; 100 x 50. What's wrong with that? I've owned a house, and that's a decent sized lot. So what's the real reason these people don't want it?
5000 sf lots is pretty much the norm in almost all the core communities in the city. My lot in GGH is 5500sf and there are several lots within a block that range from 2600-4000sf, what, exactly, is the issue here?
Building homes doesn’t just impact land. From what I heard, it’s the location that’s the issue more than the lot sizes. But also the environmental impact on the area. Let’s say they build 1000 new houses, most families now days have 2 cars. Let’s say that 750 of those units have 2 cars, that’s 1500 new cars on the roads. That will lead to needing the traffic lights changed, the roads to be repaired or replaced sooner, the extra rubber from tires that’ll end up in water and the extra air pollution. Not to mention they may need to add extra public transportation, the sewer system may need to be upgraded.
Smallest revisions in Planning regulations will have to go through years and decades of process and public hearings in any part of California, for Encanto it happens over night behind the closed doors by corrupt people. This is a perfect example for Gentrification lead by government authorities. This is systematic racism happening in the finest city in 2024!
Who’s racist here? The people who created and approved the footnote are POC and presumably they were voted in by POC too. And the people protesting it are obviously doing a NIMBY.
Look to see who on the city council stands to gain the most from this development. Who is being paid off by the proposed developments. Who has past relationships with the developers. Follow the money.
City residents benefit from the housing but they're too selfish to realize it. Keep restricting density then you'll keep seeing a skyrocketing cost of living. Supply and demand can't work when government is restricting the supply.
Somehow densification is never in Los Altos or Beverly Hills or Newport Beach or La Jolla. And somehow new apartments are always more expensive, not less.
@@fluxcapacitor1621 We are not selfish; we are questioning how a footnote enabling a 500% increase in density appeared overnight in the Zoning regulations of a single neighborhood. This neighborhood has faced a history of gentrification and systemic racism dating back to World War II. Once a refuge for Japanese families expelled from the City, primarily farmland. Encanto has endured generations of underinvestment, leaving it with the infrastructure sufficient to barely support its existing families, let alone 500% increase in density. Maybe you should visit our neighborhood before calling us selfish!
@@fereshtehirani9921 Encanto is one of very few neighborhoods with a trolley station, has excellent connections to practically all freeways, better-than-average roads compared to Stockton or even North Park/Hillcrest, and a lot of fried chicken restaurants. Who cares about Japanese that were bought out over 80 years ago for land that eventually became easement for public infrastructure? Your point is moot, anachronistic, and sounds straight out of a DEI handbook.
It's not acceptable to just concentrate housing here in the minority areas not when we live in a food desert not when you have to travel out of the neighborhood to eat healthy or shop. Everyone needs cars to live up these hills . On the weekends you wait for an hour for a bus and after 7 pm there are no more buses so if you have a job that's a 20 to 30 minute walk to reach that area from the trolley and you have to walk some areas with no sidewalk. Why not build housing in areas where people travel over an hour or hour and half by car/ public transportation to get to their jobs. Stop crowding poverty in one spot .
@AbsentMinded619 that's not the point. What I am saying is that this area lacks grocery stores that are in walking distance. Even public transportation is lacking in this area. I welcome you to try to walk in this neighborhood go to work everyday it's hard if you don't have a car. You have to drive to lemon Grove to shop for groceries or our lovely food 4 less that always seems like it's lacking. If you know you know but you would not unless you lived here.
@@SunnyDiegoProduction I understand where he is coming from. It's frustrating to deal with the lack of housing in San Diego. I just know that every single person that would live in that purposed spot would realize that you need a car to move around. Take the kids to a middle school/high school, shop, eat, even fast food is out the ways. I don't think single housing or building a parking lot is the solution there but I think this area needs better public transportation to address the needs of a growing population, jobs in the area and places to buy food that's close .
Wow, so rich people cry about housing going up and the city steps down like cowards. But when it's not an affluent neighborhood, they should get over it?
@matt45540 We are not trying to control land we do not own; we are questioning how a footnote enabling a 500% increase in density appeared overnight in the Zoning regulations of a single neighborhood. This neighborhood has faced a history of gentrification and systemic racism dating back to World War II. Once a refuge for Japanese families expelled from the City, primarily farmland. Encanto has endured generations of underinvestment, leaving it with the infrastructure suffiecient to barely support its existing families, let alone 500% increase in density. So no we are not trying to control anybody's land!
@@fereshtehirani9921 You know where zoning codes came from, right? They came from Redlining. Lot size minimums came from Redlining. The goal with zoning was to keep minorities out of white neighborhoods. So by trying to preserve the enormous lot size minimums, you're prolonging the racist laws of the past.
People are missing all the impact that new housing developments will have on the rest of the area. It means more cars, the average household has 2 cars. Adding more cars means they could have more traffic, more air pollution, more oil and gas pollution on the ground from leaking cars. Where do you think the waste goes when you flush a toilet? More homes means more water and more waste. The sewer and water systems will need to upgraded for the surrounding areas. They’ll also need to take into account for other services, public transportation, public assistance, extra cops, maybe even relocating the Fire Department or creating a new department.
Blocking housing because you're concerned about the neighborhood character is insane. We have a historic housing crisis and these people complaining are simply selfish.
Then let them build densely in your neighborhood. If you can lower the requirement to 5k sq ft per house then you can quadruple housing in La Jolla and other locations. Why is it only good for South San Diego and not all of the other communities. Seems rather one sided.
Before one more house gets built, all houses under corporate ownership should be immediately revoked and the houses all put back on the market within a year. It would bring home prices way down, boosting homeownership and reducing environmental destruction caused by building new homes.
Most of the arguments here are likely from people who don't live in those neighborhoods. But if some land near them were suddenly developed for low-income housing they would be crying just as loudly. The question is why is it less of a requirement in that particular neighborhood than in the rest of the state? Why is it ok to build 4 houses to 1 in a mostly minority neighborhood? Seems rather one sided and the people complaining likely don't live in that neighborhood or just want more sprawl and ghetto possible areas to be built. Unless there is some logical and reasonable account for the change, all areas should be set at the same limit.
I fully support building low-cost housing near my house because I'm not a ghoul who likes to ban other people from having a home. You're saying the people in this video are advocating to upzone everywhere, but they aren't. They're doing just the opposite-- advocating to downzone their neighborhood. Minimum lot sizes were put in place to keep minorities out of white areas. Trying to uphold these arbitrary restrictions is prolonging those racist laws.
At some point you would think that Americans would finally understand that they don't vote into office people who care about them. They vote into office people who care about themselves.
You all don't want homeless and you don't want housing you entitled people. It's easy for you to be complaining sitting pretty in your home. Just stop already!
i agree they are idiots complaining… its not ‘red lining’ its building affordable housing where its needed most for those whom need it most & helps clean up the streets in a neighborhood needing it most its a win-win. + housing densities everywhere are increasing, so for them to call out the city council members like that is totally unacceptable. They built a few more homes then planned, big deal.
@@767kevinThis is an ignorant take. You know damn well they're not putting in affordable housing. The writing is on the wall that this is the start to push people out of the neighborhood. The "clean up" they want to do results in an erasure of culture. Prices go up. Tell me, why does no one bat an eye when rich people strike down new development continually due to NIMBYism, yet when the people who don't have that kind of money do it, they should just silence themselves? It's not right.
@@sergpie I'm talking about gentrification. If you didn't know it pushes people out, I invite you to do a little research and see how it affects communities like Encanto.
This isn’t capitalism. This is being allowed by the state. Capital would not be invested if the state not only zoned accordingly, but respected already extant zoning laws.
The developers will be given a blank check to build very dense housing that local residents couldn't afford to buy anyway... the city/county just wants maximum tax revenue based on todays inflated housing prices. Meanwhile, the developers and anyone in government with the means to make effective change don't live in the neighborhoods where these types of projects will have a negative impact on the community. This is my neighborhood, BTW.
The reason home prices are so high is because there is a shortage of homes. Nobody is giving a blank check to anybody here. Minimum lot sizes were designed to keep minorities out of white neighborhoods. Small homes do not negatively affect you in any way. It gives teachers and firefighters a chance to own a home. Trying to keep those arbitrary restrictions is just prolonging those racist laws.
Probably trying to pack in more residences to meet the State's demand for more housing units and affordable housing. That radio tower, is there a station still using it in the area? Radio towers typically have some space around them like is seen at the start of this business. It looks like an AM antenna, and a lot of AM stations are being consolidated together, so it might be a vacant property and that's why houses are planned for the area.
Why with so many people reading ALL the same pages, did ALL of them miss that ONE footnote? Except one person? And, yes that hill can be used for "affordable " housing real estate. But with all the shenanigans developers can use nowadays who's to know what will ultimately come of that. San Diego also has problems with people living in their RV's. Some by choice, some not. Maybe better use of all that land is to make a safe and legal place for people to live in their RV's. Or, build a tiny house community. City's need to be more realistic and use creative thinking on what is happening NOW. Instead of sticking to it's "plans". Which we all know is another word for inflation and profit. Why is city government becoming more and more like Las Vegas? Where the house ALWAYS is going to win.
5000 square feet is about 450 square metres. Still twice as much as my own house here in the Netherlands. The USA should build much more dense so utilities are cheaper to maintain and population densities can be high enough for proper public transport and pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure.
It doesn't work that way in the US. Here it's all about money, greed and profits. Even if it would be cheaper, it won't be because the Corporations need to make astronomical profits for their shareholders. It's not about people and needs, it's about money and greed. Nice thought though.
One or more decision makers are benefitting from this, whether financially, they know the developers, or someone wants to keep "those people" in a certain area. I really admire the local residents are being active in calling this out.
5,000 square foot lots?? That's urban core density, downtown tenement housing density! But on top of a hill. These pols don't care, they won't be personally affected, which makes them complicit in reducing quality of life for existing Encanto residents. Also, these two plans contribute to the continuing "shrinkflation" of housing around the country. #greed
People who already own homes are upset that other people will be afforded the same opportunity. More news at 11.
....but its apparantly okay when dave chappelle does it????
Build affordable housing in La Jolla! Stop fooling your respected citizens. We’re not garbage.
Exactly!
What do you consider affordable?
There is no available land in La Jolla.
@@kennixox262 Yes there is, start with La Jolla Country Club and Torrey Pines Golf Course.
@@fereshtehirani9921 Last I checked those are private entities? Do you propose that the government confiscate those properties?
$1000 fee to appeal to the gov't? It's out of control.
to dissuade you from even trying ...same with any laws that are passed it costs millions to get an appeal all the way through lower courts and up to SCOTUS while the Govt is using YOUR tax dollars to fight its own citizens
Sounds like an obstruction of justice
No one needs a 20,000 s.f.lot. Land is overpriced and you need to get as many homes on a project to keep housing costs lower. If anything the city needs to write laws for projects that increase density and require the developers to build lower priced, affordable homes to get their projects approved.
Gross
Disgusting.
The reduced lot sizes are the same size most cities have; 100 x 50. What's wrong with that? I've owned a house, and that's a decent sized lot. So what's the real reason these people don't want it?
5000 sf lots is pretty much the norm in almost all the core communities in the city. My lot in GGH is 5500sf and there are several lots within a block that range from 2600-4000sf, what, exactly, is the issue here?
Building homes doesn’t just impact land. From what I heard, it’s the location that’s the issue more than the lot sizes. But also the environmental impact on the area. Let’s say they build 1000 new houses, most families now days have 2 cars. Let’s say that 750 of those units have 2 cars, that’s 1500 new cars on the roads. That will lead to needing the traffic lights changed, the roads to be repaired or replaced sooner, the extra rubber from tires that’ll end up in water and the extra air pollution. Not to mention they may need to add extra public transportation, the sewer system may need to be upgraded.
So you got yours but won't allow others.
Smallest revisions in Planning regulations will have to go through years and decades of process and public hearings in any part of California, for Encanto it happens over night behind the closed doors by corrupt people.
This is a perfect example for Gentrification lead by government authorities. This is systematic racism happening in the finest city in 2024!
Who’s racist here? The people who created and approved the footnote are POC and presumably they were voted in by POC too. And the people protesting it are obviously doing a NIMBY.
well said. I would not be surprised if Montgomery got a kickback from any developers.
Well said!
Stop this non-sense!
👍🏼👍🏼
Sick. As someone who grew up in Encanto, I hate this so much.
Should build MORE housing there!
Look to see who on the city council stands to gain the most from this development. Who is being paid off by the proposed developments. Who has past relationships with the developers. Follow the money.
City residents benefit from the housing but they're too selfish to realize it. Keep restricting density then you'll keep seeing a skyrocketing cost of living. Supply and demand can't work when government is restricting the supply.
Somehow densification is never in Los Altos or Beverly Hills or Newport Beach or La Jolla. And somehow new apartments are always more expensive, not less.
@@eric.nathanson Well said! Thank you
@@fluxcapacitor1621 We are not selfish; we are questioning how a footnote enabling a 500% increase in density appeared overnight in the Zoning regulations of a single neighborhood. This neighborhood has faced a history of gentrification and systemic racism dating back to World War II. Once a refuge for Japanese families expelled from the City, primarily farmland. Encanto has endured generations of underinvestment, leaving it with the infrastructure sufficient to barely support its existing families, let alone 500% increase in density. Maybe you should visit our neighborhood before calling us selfish!
@@fereshtehirani9921
Encanto is one of very few neighborhoods with a trolley station, has excellent connections to practically all freeways, better-than-average roads compared to Stockton or even North Park/Hillcrest, and a lot of fried chicken restaurants. Who cares about Japanese that were bought out over 80 years ago for land that eventually became easement for public infrastructure? Your point is moot, anachronistic, and sounds straight out of a DEI handbook.
Too bad people need housing!
Not gonna be so much an issue after the deportations...
In California, corruption is always driven by real estate developers.
Upton Sinclair 101
it is that way everywhere.
Prop 19
As in most states. California is not alone. Florida is another good example with far few regulations than California.
@@PaulHolmanIII Probably. He did run for governor here. As a socialist. And lost.
Footnote #7 - good on doing the research...
It's not acceptable to just concentrate housing here in the minority areas not when we live in a food desert not when you have to travel out of the neighborhood to eat healthy or shop. Everyone needs cars to live up these hills . On the weekends you wait for an hour for a bus and after 7 pm there are no more buses so if you have a job that's a 20 to 30 minute walk to reach that area from the trolley and you have to walk some areas with no sidewalk. Why not build housing in areas where people travel over an hour or hour and half by car/ public transportation to get to their jobs. Stop crowding poverty in one spot .
So…not in your backyard
@AbsentMinded619 that's not the point. What I am saying is that this area lacks grocery stores that are in walking distance. Even public transportation is lacking in this area. I welcome you to try to walk in this neighborhood go to work everyday it's hard if you don't have a car. You have to drive to lemon Grove to shop for groceries or our lovely food 4 less that always seems like it's lacking. If you know you know but you would not unless you lived here.
@@violetag4062you described it perfectly the first time, the commenter above has zero reading and comprehension skills!
@@SunnyDiegoProduction I understand where he is coming from. It's frustrating to deal with the lack of housing in San Diego. I just know that every single person that would live in that purposed spot would realize that you need a car to move around. Take the kids to a middle school/high school, shop, eat, even fast food is out the ways. I don't think single housing or building a parking lot is the solution there but I think this area needs better public transportation to address the needs of a growing population, jobs in the area and places to buy food that's close .
@@violetag4062
Encanto literally has a trolley station and about 6 bus lines that transect it.
People need to stop trying to control the land they don't own
Wow, so rich people cry about housing going up and the city steps down like cowards. But when it's not an affluent neighborhood, they should get over it?
@matt45540 We are not trying to control land we do not own; we are questioning how a footnote enabling a 500% increase in density appeared overnight in the Zoning regulations of a single neighborhood. This neighborhood has faced a history of gentrification and systemic racism dating back to World War II. Once a refuge for Japanese families expelled from the City, primarily farmland. Encanto has endured generations of underinvestment, leaving it with the infrastructure suffiecient to barely support its existing families, let alone 500% increase in density. So no we are not trying to control anybody's land!
@@fereshtehirani9921 You know where zoning codes came from, right? They came from Redlining. Lot size minimums came from Redlining. The goal with zoning was to keep minorities out of white neighborhoods. So by trying to preserve the enormous lot size minimums, you're prolonging the racist laws of the past.
@@fereshtehirani9921 Your opposition to additional housing is actively hurting people. Please stop.
No such thing as affordable housing
Municipalities and cities and counties NEED income to give themselves raises.
I guarantee the guy talking about air quality only cares about it when it affects his home values
Nothing wrong with that.
Great reporting, thank you!
People are missing all the impact that new housing developments will have on the rest of the area. It means more cars, the average household has 2 cars. Adding more cars means they could have more traffic, more air pollution, more oil and gas pollution on the ground from leaking cars.
Where do you think the waste goes when you flush a toilet? More homes means more water and more waste. The sewer and water systems will need to upgraded for the surrounding areas. They’ll also need to take into account for other services, public transportation, public assistance, extra cops, maybe even relocating the Fire Department or creating a new department.
It shouldn’t have to take courage to challenge the government.
Blocking housing because you're concerned about the neighborhood character is insane. We have a historic housing crisis and these people complaining are simply selfish.
Then let them build densely in your neighborhood. If you can lower the requirement to 5k sq ft per house then you can quadruple housing in La Jolla and other locations. Why is it only good for South San Diego and not all of the other communities. Seems rather one sided.
Good for them!!! Hold them accountable!
You know what they say; "Follow the money"
Before one more house gets built, all houses under corporate ownership should be immediately revoked and the houses all put back on the market within a year. It would bring home prices way down, boosting homeownership and reducing environmental destruction caused by building new homes.
Twice the houses gives somebody 200% profit - from nothing.most city councils are populated by real estate investors, or their spouses.
Something going on - it is money. But really, single-family houses is so 1950s. Build upwards.
They tried that in the 60's. High rise housing was such a nightmare. Most have been torn down at this point.
Heavily Dense Housing building housing projects to many people in one area.Affordable Housing needs to be spread out all over different cities .
We have a big state. We should collectively manage this, and also allow for good quality of life for current residents at the same time.
You're literally describing a City versus a rural area. There's plenty of room for people in cities if we got rid of all the cars they needed
@@matt45540Yeah, if only they would focus on bettering public transportation for everyone, which they won't.
Most of the arguments here are likely from people who don't live in those neighborhoods. But if some land near them were suddenly developed for low-income housing they would be crying just as loudly. The question is why is it less of a requirement in that particular neighborhood than in the rest of the state? Why is it ok to build 4 houses to 1 in a mostly minority neighborhood? Seems rather one sided and the people complaining likely don't live in that neighborhood or just want more sprawl and ghetto possible areas to be built. Unless there is some logical and reasonable account for the change, all areas should be set at the same limit.
Well said! 👍🏼
I fully support building low-cost housing near my house because I'm not a ghoul who likes to ban other people from having a home. You're saying the people in this video are advocating to upzone everywhere, but they aren't. They're doing just the opposite-- advocating to downzone their neighborhood. Minimum lot sizes were put in place to keep minorities out of white areas. Trying to uphold these arbitrary restrictions is prolonging those racist laws.
Don't let the state turn us into LA !!!! Protect San Diego!!
educate yourself and fight for what is right. The state of california has a Housing Accountability Office. email them and file a complaint.
Low cost housing isn't very popular. i guess they like people being homeless.
At some point you would think that Americans would finally understand that they don't vote into office people who care about them. They vote into office people who care about themselves.
You all don't want homeless and you don't want housing you entitled people. It's easy for you to be complaining sitting pretty in your home. Just stop already!
i agree they are idiots complaining… its not ‘red lining’ its building affordable housing where its needed most for those whom need it most & helps clean up the streets in a neighborhood needing it most its a win-win. + housing densities everywhere are increasing, so for them to call out the city council members like that is totally unacceptable. They built a few more homes then planned, big deal.
@@767kevinThis is an ignorant take. You know damn well they're not putting in affordable housing. The writing is on the wall that this is the start to push people out of the neighborhood. The "clean up" they want to do results in an erasure of culture. Prices go up.
Tell me, why does no one bat an eye when rich people strike down new development continually due to NIMBYism, yet when the people who don't have that kind of money do it, they should just silence themselves?
It's not right.
@@FormlessFlesh
You can’t push people out of a vacant lot unless they’re vagrants.
@@sergpie I'm talking about gentrification. If you didn't know it pushes people out, I invite you to do a little research and see how it affects communities like Encanto.
Affordable housing is communism get a better job move away , stop giving the government more power
Aint Cold Blooded Unfettered American Capitalism n Greed grand,lol? 😅😅😅
This isn’t capitalism. This is being allowed by the state. Capital would not be invested if the state not only zoned accordingly, but respected already extant zoning laws.
@@sergpie This is 100% capitalism. $$$$$
Corruption
The developers will be given a blank check to build very dense housing that local residents couldn't afford to buy anyway... the city/county just wants maximum tax revenue based on todays inflated housing prices. Meanwhile, the developers and anyone in government with the means to make effective change don't live in the neighborhoods where these types of projects will have a negative impact on the community. This is my neighborhood, BTW.
I grew up in Encanto and I'm furious. This is so enraging.
The reason home prices are so high is because there is a shortage of homes. Nobody is giving a blank check to anybody here. Minimum lot sizes were designed to keep minorities out of white neighborhoods. Small homes do not negatively affect you in any way. It gives teachers and firefighters a chance to own a home. Trying to keep those arbitrary restrictions is just prolonging those racist laws.
Systemic racism baked right in
Come on people, make this news go viral! Like and share.
Who in the city is getting kick back money from the developers? Follow the money trail.
#OfficialSystemicCorruption
Stop crying not your land
Oh I know all about the rabbit holes with these lawyers and government types.
Probably trying to pack in more residences to meet the State's demand for more housing units and affordable housing. That radio tower, is there a station still using it in the area? Radio towers typically have some space around them like is seen at the start of this business. It looks like an AM antenna, and a lot of AM stations are being consolidated together, so it might be a vacant property and that's why houses are planned for the area.
hahahahahahahHHhahahahaha
That's awful that they are being ignored. Please keep on trying to get justice.
Why with so many people reading ALL the same pages, did ALL of them miss that ONE footnote? Except one person? And, yes that hill can be used for "affordable " housing real estate. But with all the shenanigans developers can use nowadays who's to know what will ultimately come of that. San Diego also has problems with people living in their RV's. Some by choice, some not. Maybe better use of all that land is to make a safe and legal place for people to live in their RV's. Or, build a tiny house community. City's need to be more realistic and use creative thinking on what is happening NOW. Instead of sticking to it's "plans". Which we all know is another word for inflation and profit. Why is city government becoming more and more like Las Vegas? Where the house ALWAYS is going to win.
after it accidentally burns down for the third or 4th time, theyll build somewhere else.
Disgusting
Get some acoustic paneling installed. The reverberation in a room like that is ridiculous.
Gov "Don't do as I do, do as I say."
Everyone is for cheap housing for the poor until it comes to their neighborhood.
5000 square feet is about 450 square metres. Still twice as much as my own house here in the Netherlands.
The USA should build much more dense so utilities are cheaper to maintain and population densities can be high enough for proper public transport and pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure.
It doesn't work that way in the US. Here it's all about money, greed and profits. Even if it would be cheaper, it won't be because the Corporations need to make astronomical profits for their shareholders. It's not about people and needs, it's about money and greed. Nice thought though.
You can't fight city hall
Disgraceful . This is PRIME real estate!