His mom already picked his first wife and now he's Divorced with a girlfriend whose 6 years younger.... Shekieb should just marry his mom and a s*x doll... problem solved
When you asked us ladies where is our cutoff point, toddler age activities like being fed by mom didn't even cross my mind as something a functioning adult would do.
@@heezypeasy8611 This is beyond anything I could fathom. Laila needs professional help, and I feel like Emily just needs to leave Shekeb at this point unless he continues to take steps to stand up to his mom. It's one thing if the romantic relationship is problematic, but Emily seems like a normal, healthy woman who unfortunately fell in love with a meathead who has been put on a pedestal and manipulated his whole life.
My girlfriend got me a bouquet of flowers for my birthday, and it made me feel so warm and fuzzy. They were gorgeous, and I couldn't stop telling her how much I appreciated it. She's the first one to ever buy me flowers and I now understand how much they can mean. So, uh, yeah. Ladies get your guy some flowers.
I hand made my boyfriend flowers (due to real flowers being at risk of being eaten by my cats) and I buy him plushies all the time and he loves it! For Valentine's I even got him one of those giant plushies. Whoever said guys don't like those types of things is a liar
The emotional incest is strong here. It is never good when a mother becomes too attached to her son, especially to the point of being jealous and suspicious of other women in his life.
It's super icky...my mother in law dislikes me but she's more passive aggressive about it and my man at least lives with me but it's still a tough situation. But at least my man chooses me hence his mother hating me so much but whatever...i got what i want.
I dated a guy like this. His mom would call everytime we were together and say something was wrong so he would come see her and she would say things like "I feel like you don't love me anymore because you're always with them". Yes, we broke up lol.
As an ex momma's boy, this really hits close to home. Me and my mom are quite close, everything in my life is dictated by her until to one point i started to go to boarding school. When i entered boarding school i began to learn independence and ya know a little bit of social life but i still followed her rules almost all the time. Times passed and i graduated from uni and went back to hometown to work. I stayed with them and things started to happen. Everything i did is no good for her, she wanted me to work for one company and i disagreed and worked in some other company and i got belittled everytime i got back home tired. I got called trash because i stress eat, got called useless and somehow i took it all. I wanted to buy a house and applied everything by myself and when i wanted to sign on it, my mom forced me to stop and forced me to buy another house that she wanted. I can't renovate the house on my own and when i did there is always a big fight for it. Imagine i can't even choose paint in my house without going through her. Finally, i got married and things got worst. Mom try to control her, and fights grew bigger because i hate her controlling nature. She will always use the 9 months pregnant thing and the heaven under mom's feet (i am muslim, and in Islam its said Heaven is under mom's feet). My wife has a cat and i brought it to the house(that i was forced to buy) and my mom hated it. She forced me to send the cat away and i stood my ground and defended the cat. The fight grew so bad that i got disowned.. and guess what, i finally feel relaxed, my life felt better. I finally felt free.. Not sure what i am ranting but i just wanted to share my story, these kind of mom will use any technique to control the child. Its rotten, its toxic, its really disgusting.
I'm glad you stood up for yourself and are free from her insane behavior; you didn't deserve any of that. *(The question has been answered, and I get it now. I no longer have the question you are about to read. I'm just leaving this part up so the replies make sense.)* However, a genuine question i have is how your mother could "force" you to do things you didn't want, like not sign a contract, purchase a different house, get rid of your wife's cat, etc? I understand children can be forced into things because when you're underage your parents can legally can control your finances and override any decisions you make. But as an adult with your own money, that goes away, so the worst she can do is complain but can't actually stop you anymore. So it's a hard for me to conceptualize this situation. *(Again I don't have this question anymore. I just left this part of the comment up instead of deleting it so other who come across OP's post can view the discussion.)* Original Edit: I get it now. Seems like the confusion was caused by my problem of reading things too literally. So maybe people with the same question might have been too semantical as well. Edit 2: *Added a disclaimer that I no longer have this question.* I just left the comment up to preserve the discussion. It's cool if others wanna still elaborate I guess but i just wanted to point it out so some kind person doesn't take the time out of their day thinking I still needed help. Also , I don't wanna hijack OPs post 👍
congrats on getting your shit together anyways! :) I've seen some different takes on cats from muslims, ranging from islam almost mandating catpersonhood (muhammad approved of cats or something), and (of the common pets) only dogs indoors being haram, to all animals being banned from homes.
As a guy who dates guys, a mama’s boy crosses a line for me when they’re living and spending all their time with their mothers. If they’re just living with their parents because of the housing economy, totally fair. When you’re spending every waking moment with your mother, you’re going to become codependent.
When Laila said, "Mommy going to die" .... Adult or not, that's a fucked up thing to say to your kid. Especially since she really was sick and close to death, AND knowing how much her son genuinely cares for her, that's like retraumatizing him over and over again just to manipulate and control him. Seeing people use others feelings like that against them makes me so mad 😠
That kinda makes me wonder about her health issues pre-show 🤔 Curious how long/much she has used this to guilt him, and how much was truly as bad as he believes? I feel icky even thinking about it, but I kinda doubt this just started happening during the show...
omg true she actually used to be in an actual life threatening situation and now constantly reintroduces that feeling to her son just to toy with him.. that makes me wanna yell at her in Shekebs shoes but she isnt one to reason with anyway
The most dangerous part of a dynamic like this within a mother and a son is something that happened to me. I was in an abusive relationship with a mamas boy, and when he put his hands on me I called his sister and mother and the first thing they told me was “are you taking your meds?” Because I was on antidepressants due to the result of the relationship.
Yeah that sounds about right, because to them he could do nothing wrong and he is perfect so it has to be you and it’s so frustrating because literally everything is your fault in their eyes it’s unbelievable how far they will go to make you be the one at fault
I was SA'd by a family member and I wanted to tell a cousin. He said the same thing and suggested it was a delusion. It breaks my heart when that happens so I hope you're on the path of healing 💜
Do not date a Mama's boy. There's a difference between a son who loves and respects his mom and a Mama's boy or a daddy's girl as well to be honest. It will not work especially if you're like Shekeb, who's clearly an enabler of his mom's manipulation.
Took me 5 and a half years to learn this lesson and it still breaks my heart. Generally wonderful human being but completely screwed up when it came to relationships and (lack of) boundaries set up by his mother ever since he was a child. It tore us apart in the end... and I dont think it'll ever change until she's passed
Anyone who has this kind of relationship with their parents has a lot of growth and healing work that they need to do before they're ready for a relationship
I think the dad is also at fault here, if I ever saw my wife treating my adult son like he was a toddler I would’ve stepped in and told them to cut that shit out
When Shekeb said 'You're blaming me for being close to my mom?' he sounded like his mom when she said 'You're choosing her over me?' Putting words in the other persons mouth to try to shut them down, because they're feeling emotionally vulnerable and aren't willing to have the conversation. Also on a more serious note, when you make incest jokes, just remember if there really are suspicious signs, it would imply he's a victim, not just a pathetic guy. He'd be someone who was groomed to not have boundaries, and think this was right, or that bad things would happen if he didn't act the 'right way'. And considering those things seem to be evident even without incestuous sounding weird phrases he uses, I just think it's worth considering whether you should at least aim those jokes at the MOM being creepy and not Shakeb crossing a line. If anyone is crossing it, it's the parents who made him like this and did fuck all to stop it.
good insight, i never really thought about it like that. but parents will always know better than their kids (in this kind of situation) & they should be blamed for not teaching their kid the proper boundaries.
I'm Iranian (grew up in Canada) and my wife is Japanese. If my mom was like that I would have been so ashamed, and would not stand for it. It is frustrating to see the mother act that way, but even more frustrating to see Shekeb just not really do anything. And the father too, I feel sorry for him.
I imagine Shekeb has a lot of PTSD from dealing with his mom battling cancer, so hearing that she is sick is probably very scary and triggering. I've had to deal with my own mom nearly dying and it's always left me afraid for her health. So I do feel for him, especially since she is weaponizing it to manipulate her son.
Yeah a man who was inlove with me was a mamas boy N his mom had diabetes so he was always on edge but the mom loved me. She would give me gifts and shower me in compliments so it wasn’t too bad. Especially since the mom understood that he has enough time and love for the both of us.
I agree he has that trauma weighing on him, but not all trauma=PTSD, (coming from someone with PTSD and mental health expertise) PTSD involves flashbacks that include actually thinking you're reliving the moment of trauma for example
I think so as well. When my stepmum died, I became very clingy to my mum. I would panic when she got a cold, cause I was scared I'd lose another mother figure.
Honestly i don't think you know how important your videos could potentially be. You're teaching young people very important and helpful advice for maintaining healthy and respectful relationships while also adding good humour and being serious when required. It has helped me with my personal relationships i just wanted to thank you if you are reading this :)
I would like to add that Emily took this abuse and took this abuse until she finally snapped and then every comment on ever social media post called her gross and abusive and crazy for ripping up a damn plant at Laila’s. The whole internet gaslit Emily and it was so sad.
She is soooo much like my ex-mother in law. She does the “I’m sick” routine whenever anyone says no to her. We call it her dying duck routine. She constantly manipulates everyone to get her way. Everyone does what she says so as not to upset her. The stories I have would make your head spin.
Sounds like my grandma from mom's side. She is absolutly adorable but everything should be as She likes, otherwise she will start to say she is feeling sick. I can understand her beeing really anxious (I'm similar tbh) but up to a point.There is a thin line between how she acts out of anxiety and her wish to manipoulate the relatives.
He's suffering from emotional incest. I went through the same with with my mom. Stockholm perhaps, but his mother has out him in the role of her husband. She relies on him for her emotional and physical needs. This just makes me sad cause I can feel the war this man in trapped in. I hope he gets help.
@@yukiokuma8983 Personally I think it needs a different term. It kinda co-opts a different kind of traumatic experience anyways, I don’t know why certain professionals decided to start using it. They used to call it enmeshment, it’d make sense to continue that imo. I’m sorry you’ve been thought it either way. But glad that you’re speaking in past tense.
@@sourgreendolly7685 my therapist calls it enmeshment. It's so much easier to hear. Thank you. I'm still struggling with it on a daily basis but I'm far better then before covid. I'm finally figuring out who I am outside of my mother.
As a psychology major, it's baffling to me that shakeebs mom hits the same toxic traits as mother gothel from tangled, beat for beat. She is literally a cartoon villain and simply because she raised him, shakeebs stuck with her.
My doggy is named Layla, this episode confused her. She kept hearing her name and tilting her head at the screen and then barking. She did not approve. Lol
My first husband's mom was just like this. She had two sons and both of them were in the most incestuous emotional relationship with their mom. Her husband was a quiet puppet of a man as well. My husband served me divorce papers after his mother demanded we separate because she wanted to pick the name of our first kid and I said no. I later caved and let her pick the name but soon after that we did end up divorced. Thank god lol
Watching this makes me feel very grateful for my wonderful mother-in-law, who has been kind and welcoming towards me from the moment my husband and I started dating.
I'm not gonna lie when she cussed the mom out for the first time I didn't feel bad at all but I think she should just leave because it just seems like Shakeb likes women fighting over him
Shekeb is totally enjoying this. He's enjoying having two women "fight" over him, even if one is his mom. But also, I'm getting vibes that his mom groomed him when he was young. Awful situation all around
Yeah she acts pretty much exactly how my mom acted before I left. Like word for word and the exact same actions. I've had to run away from home to get away from my parents. I'm a fellow Indian kid and my mom even went to the extent of attempting suicide to try and keep me in the house away from my now fiancé. There's a lot more to the story but as someone that was an ex-Momma's boy, I've had to disown my family to obtain the independence that I want because my mom and dad genuinely went to insane extents to try and keep me under their control. I felt like I was in a Bollywood movie the entire time and couldn't believe that my parents were the ones doing this. They seriously need therapy because they don't see that they're doing anything wrong. I've literally asked my mom if she's ever wrong, and genuinely she didn't think she's ever wrong. I mean to the point that she'll lie about something she's done and claim she never said/did that. She also doesn't have a sense of humor so that doesn't help in trying to find a way to diffuse tension. You just have to sit there arguing or listening to her argue for hours on end. I'm sad my mom and dad have forced this situation but I'm glad to have the freedom to do whatever I want without being controlled. I genuinely feel sorry for everyone that's also had to deal with a similar situation and I'm happy I managed to get away from my parents before I had to go through what Shekeb is going through.
@Breanne Tsang Thank you!! I appreciate it. I'm definitely taking each day as it comes but I'm honestly just enjoying life without the drama for now. I'm Telugu so I'm trying to get my fiance to watch some telugu movies but that's gonna take a while since it's pretty triggering for her. Outside of that, things are going really well and we're enjoying each other's company. I hope your wedding goes well!! Happy married life!!
As long as he tolerates and enables his mom's behviour she will never change. As long as Emily tollerates his behavior he will never change. What you permit, you approve. Hope she escapes this toxic relationship.
As someone who is fairly close to his mother, if she ever said "I'll die if you leave with my girlfriend" I would call her out on the spot. Insane how Shekeb has absolutely no backbone, looking forward to s2!
His mum probably lied about her leg because she didn't want him to have dinner with his girlfriend. If my boyfriends mum did that I would be livid holy shit.
She called her a pig! That’s where I’d draw the line. AND ALSO SETTING HIM UP ON A DATE WHEN SHE AGREED SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE AMENDS WITH EMILY. Bro Emily is either a saint or a fool for having stuck around after those two things.
@@thilypad557 My stubborn bitch brain would refuse to leave because of the principle. Leaving is what she wants and I'd force myself to suffer just to spite her lmao
My mother in law did this to me, she brought a single woman around half her age, from the same church she attends. She really wanted my husband not to be with me for some reason. Craziness!!!!
As a parent you should be happy your child found someone they wants to spend their life with and who loves them back. It is beyond me why some mothers, and it is shocking how many there are out there, cannot let their fing sons live their lives. Seen this to many times in real life. Runnn ladies, run!
Personally I think it can have something to do with different cultures or lifestyles. When a girl or a woman has her future limited to household + kids only, then that small space becomes their whole world. If one has no say over anything outside of that small world, then it's natural to want full control of what's happening in your small world. I don't know if that is actually the case here, idk them personally. Also I'm not attacking any culture specifically; this might as well happen in the West in a family of pre 1960's mindset. Just saying that when a person's freedom in whichever sense is limited (including personal development), they can become obsessed with little things. Because they might not have an identity otherwise.
@@Black.Spades This is a very good explanation and sounds most plausible tbh! In my culture, at least in the past, most women were simply expected to live out the rest of their life as housewives/mothers. With such limited prospects, many just ended up hyper-focusing on their children, especially sons (I still hear of boys in their teens being handfed by their moms lol). They probably feel threatened when a woman shows up and takes away the attention that was reserved just for them all this time and their identity as a mother is put at risk in a sense. This kinda ends up perpetuating a cycle of mother-in-laws hating their daughter-in-laws
As someone who was raised by a narcissist and is borderline, my advice when someone threatens, "If you leave, I'm going to die/kill myself/hurt myself," respond with, "Then it sounds like you need a doctor, let me call an ambulance," and get them to the hospital. Even if it was an idle threat, you can never be sure. And if they are manipulating others like that, frankly... they need help anyway. And yes, I say that as someone who has made such threats, and even acted on them. It is NOT on you to be their lifeline--get help for them, and get help for yourself. Even if you think you're tough enough to care for someone like that, you still need support. You can't help them if they won't get help, and you can't help them if you burn out yourself. (Pro-tip if you live in America and don't want to saddle someone with that obscene ambulance bill... call the crisis hotline or crime check for a wellness check. Police suck ass, but they don't charge for transporting you to the hospital ....yet.)
The bathing him until 6th grade thing made me remember that my sister had a friend whose mom bathed her (and probably all of her siblings) until freshman year of high school. The mom literally told my mom, "Well, you know, she's at the age where she can shower by herself now and she just doesn't understand shampoo and conditioner yet." I think I would DIE if my mom bathed me that long
My cut off limit if when a mum can't see any faults in their son. Seeing anyone as perfect is dangerous. The beauty of love if that you accept and love someone flaws and all.
right she doesn't have to say them out loud but she clearly just sees him as an extension of herself who she probably sees as always in the right/an eternal victim
Yeah, my mom would roast my ass if my girlfriend, wife, etc ever asked what she thinks my flaws are. I'd say we have a good relationship but she would not hold back if asked
this is far too common an experience, especially in certain cultures like many middle eastern cultures. unfortunately, the only solution is to go no contact with the parent in question. they are deeply trapped in a destructively selfish mindset. and it's made unbelievably clear when the child tells them exactly why they are going no contact, and the parent still never changes despite being so upset and miserable that they don't have their child in their life anymore. if no contact can't change them, how could any form of contact be different?
Oof my heart goes out to Emily, she did everything right in my opinion. She tried and it didn't work so time to move forward. I can only imagine what that man's mother is doing to Emily's mental health.
I think it's incredibly messed up that IF he got married, it'd sour and end in divorce because of her. I don't think it's love. I mean, she's already ruining his relationship with a girlfriend, they're not even married yet! It's extremely disturbing.
He said how often do we get to be alone as if they had 5 kids or something. This couple is gross to me. Being with a mama’s boy is nauseating, their mothers have made them their pseudo husbands for one reason or another.
My first ex was Korean. I put myself through medical training, got a job at the top hospital in the country, made more money than my ex, and his parents still didn't like me because Im black. Emily's mom probably cares more about her future son in law's race than the money. Nothing will make them happy if less than what they have in mind.
I was dating an Asian guy and everything was great until his mom realized our relationship was getting serious. She invited me for dinner one evening, sat across from me, looked me in the eyes and said: “I really like you, you’re a wonderful person, but I can’t let my son marry you because WHAT Would our neighbors say?”. Neighbors!! I thought she was joking, but I looked at my ex.. and immediately knew it was over.
@@bella3775 Wow wtf. Seriously bump them neighbors! At least you were invited for dinner. I was young and in love so yes we dated for 4.5 years and only met his parents maybe twice.
@@mob_noise I wasn’t from the same culture and she wasn’t gonna be judged by her damn neighbors.. we were dating for 5 years at that point and were in our early 30s. it took me years to recover from that.. not to mention the obscene amount of money spent on therapy.
@@bella3775 Oh I get it. The ex I'm talking about was from 18 - 22 for me. I'm still in therapy for the rejection I felt from people who legit didn't know me. From trying to please people who I could never simply because of my race. Really messes with someone.
@@mob_noise I initially went to therapy to heal from rejection and ended up figuring out why I was with that dude in the first place, dating him for 5 years and hoping his family would accept me.
the most frustrating thing about these kind of situation is that NO ONE, literally no one steps in to slap reality onto these people but then again its reality tv
Even if it wasn’t reality TV, there’s no slapping reality into these people. Mom is a malignant narcissist who sees her son as an extension of herself and that will never change, never, not possible. There’s no cure for that. The son is extremely psychologically damaged, possibly beyond help as well.
I think Emily didn't leave because she knew that if she left, the mom would win. It's like trying to walk away from an argument and the person says, "That's what I thought."
The neighbors are like, "We'll be in the show as long as you don't say we're on Laila's side." They are going to have some great stories from that night for their actual friends.
Shekeb was the worst guy on this show, even more than the crazy guy with the Karen mom. Because while Matt is just crazy, Shekeb comes across as cowardly and manipulative. I feel so bad for Emily, she takes so much shit from his prejudiced mom, and Shekeb makes her feel like she's crazy because he literally just sits there! Like my guy, stand up for your partner.
Matt is the worst guy on the show by a long shot. Shekebs mom is just the worst mother followed closely by Matts mom. Also, Emily starts to act way differently in recent episodes
Totally agree, been in his position and some of these clips are hitting very personally right now so i apologize if this comes off as a rant but she takes so much shit from him, three plus years is so so long to be stuck in a relationship like this. He's gotta get that backbone working and he won't learn unless he starts taking action
@@palmtrees2420 I mean yeh I can't really disagree with that, Matt just seems... off, like he's got creepy serial killer vibes on top of doing the most unhinged shit ever. But Shekeb is just more frustrating because of the way he gaslights Emily and then repeatedly sits there like a coward while his partner is being berated. I think the difference is that with Matt, I feel like there's no hope for a good relationship. Dude needs psychiatric help or some shit. But for Shekeb the solution is really simple, he just refuses to stand up to his mother.
@@heboric6136 She wasn’t stuck though. Don’t get me wrong, I know it feels like you’re stuck first hand but if they weren’t living together and such she very easily could’ve left before it got to her demasculinizing him (verbal/emotional abuse) and throwing things (physical abuse). I’ve had those breaking points myself so I sympathize but at the same time, it’s very important to know it shouldn’t get to that point when it’s avoidable and here it really is. This might not apply to your situation, so please don’t think I’m assuming it does. I had one in my teens that applied to and one in my 20s where I was very much actually trapped with that person - I don’t see my reactions to him as a relevant lesson so much as I need to look for warning signs so being trapped never happens again for my own sanity. tldr; it depends on the specifics. Emily had the ability to leave.
My ex was literally this with his mother. They are also afghani and she hated me before even meeting me. Emily should definitely cut her losses. Shekebs mom will never stop
Listening to Leo break things down makes me feel sane in the face of utter insanity. This mother makes me feel so much anxiety. She's giving off shades of my own abusive mother. Learning how to live my life again away from her has shown me just how destructive that sort of influence can truly be and often is.
As an asian girl currently dating a white man who my mother doesn't know about yet. She's been controlling and adusive all my life. She never let me hang out with my friends, never allowed me to have social media, stalks all my devices, not allowed to text or call anyone and having a boy would pretty much have me dead. All this control I took on for years until I finally snapped this year realising I'm turning 18, turning into an adult and I cannot keep living under these suffocating rules and control so I moved out. I can invision something like this happening when she finds out about my boyfriend but there is no way that she's having a say in whether I'm with him or not. I don't need her permission to be with him, only a blessing and thats optional too. You have to draw the line when it comes to your own relationship because its your life and your future, your mother isn't going to live that future for you, so you have to include what you want in it for yourself.
I don’t know how Emily puts up with all of that, my threshold for mama boy BS is very low. It’s wonderful to have a great relationship with your folks and considering the economy it’s fine to live with them too but I draw the line at the childlike behavior and the overly intrusive mother. You need time and space to create the emotional intimacy needed for a long term relationship and that if he’s constantly at the beck and call of his mum then there is no room for that.
I was with someone for 4 years. We lived with his great aunt so he could take care of her and she hated me. For no reason. She was just nasty to me and loved when he and I argued. I put up with it bc I loved him so much and he actually stood up for me every time she was nasty to me so it made it worth it. Shekebs mom..I would have called her a pig right back 😭
my bf of 4 yrs is a huge mommas boy but she's so respectful and doesn't cross any boundaries like this at all. i feel so lucky. he's obviously attached and she's the most important but she isn't jealous or weird at all and i feel so lucky 😭
Emily’s mom is the reason Emily is in relationship with this guy, who was bathed by his mother until he was in the 6th grade, she’s being abused and is unable to leave. While Emily’s mom might seem sensible in comparison, she is very broken.
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My dad had never been on a date without his mom until my mom. She refused and he stepped up. They still divorced later, lots of other incompatibility lmao, but I give both of them kudos for it. Her for standing up for them and him for actually escaping the fog. Plus my abuela has gotten so much better over time, but at the time it was new country, new people, yeah I’m not surprised she latched onto family while she could either.
Dude I literally agreed with my ex mil once and she screamed at me while I was holding my baby for agreeing with her. Some of these moms are ridiculous and some of these dudes won't let go (he was 26 btw). If they act like that and your man doesn't stand up for you it won't happen. Let it go.
And tbf I didn't leave him because of his momma. I held on and pretended it wasn't happening and allowed myself to be treated that way in front of my kid. On the flip, she lied to me and was letting her son do coke in the bathroom so..
This situation is just sad. I feel like Shakeeb needs therapy to help him understand creating healthy boundaries is okay. His mom knows he will drop everything for her because of her cancer scare, so pain and death trigger him and brings true feeling of fear. I truly feel so bad for Emily, Shakeeb, and Shakeeb’s father. They are all hurting because of the mother’s manipulative BS
The more things I see like this, the more grateful I become that I have a good relationship with my mother-in-law. Her and my sister-in-law (who has been one of my best friends years before my husband and I started dating) set us up lol. She told me before our first date that she believed I was the one for him. She’s literally the sweetest (I’m literally watching this while I wait to go to dinner with her).
Hey thats awesome. Congratulations on all accounts. It sounds like you not only have a good husband, but a good 2nd family. Thats an enviable situation.
What part of Narnia did you grow up in? I need to be there xD i had to tell my parents to eff off and so did me partner; dropped them like hot potato sacks. they're allegedly sorry but...no more chances o_o
There's a huge difference between a loving family man and a mama's boy, so glad I was lucky to find a family man and that my mother in law isn't controlling like this She might be worried about him like most moms would be but she is honestly the best mom in law I could ever have, I see her as my mom as well since she's the closest thing I have to one
i get so disgusted seeing family relationships like this. its fucking weird and i always feel for the child in the situation bcz theyre a victim of emotional incest and dont even realize it. some moms really just be falling in love with their child and it actually makes my blood boil
Boundaries and clear communication is essential. Even it the guy isn't a mommas boy those are important. I dont put up with alot of nonsense so my limit isn't super specific but would most likely have to do with not clearly communicating or setting boundaries. If a guy can't say what they want or need out of a situation like that then it's gonna be frustrating.
My cousin had a similar relationship with his mother. He was well over 40 (and still living with her) when he finally met his future wife. Somehow she managed to persuade him to move cities and now they live about 3 hours away from his mother. Let's hope Shekeb finds someone similar.
As much as I feel for Emily( a lot) i really do feel like shekeb is a victim of abuse. His mother has forced herself upon him in such a way that he relies on her love and attention and has done everything to isolate him from anything he tries to choose for himself. It's no wonder he is so on the fence. He has been manipulated for his whole life probably to not know how to make a decision for himself. I would wager a guess that is why Emily has had so much patience with him. She seems emotionally intelligent, from how direct she is, and her ability to cut through right to the root of her problems and his problems. I'd also wager that behind closed doors, she has heard stories from Shekeb about his childhood and saw those red flags of abuse. With a nurturing nature, I think she wanted to help escape at the very least. I think that's why she brings up being a man so often to Shekeb, because she sees him as the scared little boy he was never able to grow out of being. For all the jokes, and rediculousness, this is an extremely sad situation. Layla knows exactly what she is doing, it's sick and twisted. We even have a point of reference that is not a cultural thing either- because of the other two parents. Shekeb's father is of the same culture and does not act this way, and in fact is also under her controlling abusive thumb. We also see Emily's mother who essentially wants the same for her daughter as Layla does, but does not go so far as to control her daughter is more preoccupied with Emily's feelings when she confides in her further. Layla in not at all concerned about Shekeb'f thoughts or feelings as an individual. To her, Shekeb is her possession.
This is a crazy window into the generational gap between people who believe in arranged marriage and people who believe in making their own damn decisions
If his mom was my mom an she threatened to die over me leaving with my partner after she caused a scene, I would jus look her in the face an say "no you won't. Cause then you'd never see me again" if she wants to emotionally abuse an manipulate me then I'll do it right back. The way some mothers act with their sons is gross imo.
Yeah my Mum used to say stuff like that (no contact now for obvious reasons) and that really is the only way to break their manipulative delusions… sometimes you just have to give it to em straight
@@RadioRudie my mother is emotionally an used to be physically abusive. I know what he's going through an that's why I said what I said. I used to walk on egg shells around my mother until I found the person that loves me an now I tell her the truth when she gets like how his mother gets. Unresponsive, controlling an disrespectful. My father also takes my mother's side in EVERY situation even when he know how unreasonable my mother is being.
Leo my god you've introduced me to some of the craziest nonsense that people actually go through and do and i love every minute of it. Humor 10/10, sage wisdom 10/10. You tha man Leo, keep going, glad i found your channel.
My ex-husband would interrupt sex to answer the phone from his mom. I thought it would change when we got married. Don't. Marry. Someone. Who. Loves. Their. Mom. Like. This. It will NOT CHANGE unless they mom/son divorce.
Ive had my share of unbearable mom's..my ex fiance's mom hated me with a burning passion for what reason I don't know, I was like 19..My ex's parents are divorced and I'm really close with her dad and one day when I was at her crib a check worth 2million went missing..I had no idea about this until the Police detective called me, which was apparently also a friend of hers questioning me..Of it wasn't for her dad stepping in and telling the cops that I would never do something like that and his ex is just crazy and vindictive..My ex cut her mom off for repeatedly disrespecting me and trying to cause a fall out with me and my mom..We eventually broke up for other reasons and we remained friends, now we are best friends and I'm her kids Goddad.her mom is back in her life and is trying to be in the grandkids life, she claims she wants to have a reship with me as well but that woman frightens me
i’m a single mother of a one year old son. i can’t possibly imagine ever becoming as crazy as this lady, but i can see how if i never dated again or had good friends i could come to rely on my son too much for my happiness. especially after learning about mothers like this, i will be cautious as to never be overbearing. all though i love my cuddle sessions with my peanut now, obviously at some point you have to realize your baby is no longer a baby and let go a little bit. if you don’t you will only hurt them in the end.
Wow when Colt can stand up to his mom more than this guy...that's saying something. And if I was the dad I would be sitting on the side like wtf about me and this is wierd ,not to mention she is setting him up for disaster when she isn't around anymore
If it’s starting to get age inappropriate and she’s doing things I should be doing, it’s over. It’s over and his car is on fire if she does horrible shit to me and then he picks her side.
i feel sorry for emily. if a man acts like this, i’m breaking up. i don’t want to date him when i know that he’s not gonna stand up for me, that’s what a partner is supposed to do.
My ex was a mommas boys. We dated during HIGH SCHOOL and even when I was like 16 I had a grown woman insulting me and calling me names while my ex just didn’t see anything wrong with it :/
My (married 30 y/o female) cut off would be a partner choosing their mother over me. If you want to start a family with someone, the two of you need to be priority if that makes sense. Also, I will text my parents that I love them on valentine's day, but to go on an evening date with your parent instead of your partner? Yikes.. Great vid Leo!
I'm getting the sense that there's some unresolved trauma surrounding Lila's battle with cancer, for both mother and son. They need a therapist, not a reality TV show. It took me a long time to get my shit together and become an "adult" in more than just age group. Mostly due to unresolved childhood trauma and physical health issues. But even at my worst lows in active addiction, I was never this codependent on anyone.
If my mum tried to feed me I’d be asking if she poisoned me and what kind was it lol. How can grown adults feel comfortable having their mother FEED THEM. WTF. Also curse you for getting me so invested in this that I needed to know and binged the show 😅
people who bring others together and then do nothing when those two start arguing drive me nuts. my dad was like this with my stepmom. she would very clearly target me for no reason and when i confronted him about not telling her to stop he would just shrug "u gotta pick ur battles" he would get mad me "im so exhausted i just want to relax but u two r always putting me in the middle" id explain ive tried talking to her but she isnt working with me. if he wants thos to end he needs to make his stance clear. "u gotta pick ur battles" its so stupid wen pple do this. u have to be assertive and tell someone where u stand. u cant just go with the raging tides if u ever want a peaceful home. so stupid
Someone needs to set this old monster straight. I know that sometimes parents don’t approve of their kid’s choice in partners, but there is no excuse for this type of of childishness and rudeness. Before I was married, my mom often disagreed with my chosen girlfriends, but she was never any less than cordial and considerate, and made them feel welcome as a guest in her home. If she had a specific problem with something they did, she would wait to speak to me, the gf, or the both of us together, and not in front of anyone else, let alone a group of people at a party. It’s only his mom’s fault to a certain point though, because if Shekeb was an actual adult man, he would have put his foot down a long time ago. Neither his mom nor his girlfriend will ever respect him if he doesn’t. I don’t even know if he’s redeemable at this point- his mom is super-manipulative and has learned that his lack of spine makes him easy to wrap around her little finger. I feel bad for his girlfriend, and I hope she leaves him and meets someone who will treat her the way she deserves.
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His mom already picked his first wife and now he's Divorced with a girlfriend whose 6 years younger.... Shekieb should just marry his mom and a s*x doll... problem solved
You're getting bold, teasing us about the next episode like that Leo.
Can’t wait for you to do the next seasons of this, Leo. I only watch these shows through you.
When you asked us ladies where is our cutoff point, toddler age activities like being fed by mom didn't even cross my mind as something a functioning adult would do.
Right?! It's just bizarre!
@@heezypeasy8611 This is beyond anything I could fathom. Laila needs professional help, and I feel like Emily just needs to leave Shekeb at this point unless he continues to take steps to stand up to his mom. It's one thing if the romantic relationship is problematic, but Emily seems like a normal, healthy woman who unfortunately fell in love with a meathead who has been put on a pedestal and manipulated his whole life.
My husband and I kept counting how many times we'd back out and lost count
Yeah that's just... no, you can't be having your mom feeding you.
My cutoff point would be him consulting his mom mid-argument for advice/backing up. Everything else in this video hadn't even crossed my mind
My girlfriend got me a bouquet of flowers for my birthday, and it made me feel so warm and fuzzy. They were gorgeous, and I couldn't stop telling her how much I appreciated it. She's the first one to ever buy me flowers and I now understand how much they can mean. So, uh, yeah. Ladies get your guy some flowers.
What a lovely relationship! I'm happy for you!
That sounds so lovely
I'm totally doing that for my future boyfriend! Boys need more love ❤️ honestly
I hand made my boyfriend flowers (due to real flowers being at risk of being eaten by my cats) and I buy him plushies all the time and he loves it! For Valentine's I even got him one of those giant plushies. Whoever said guys don't like those types of things is a liar
^this^
The emotional incest is strong here. It is never good when a mother becomes too attached to her son, especially to the point of being jealous and suspicious of other women in his life.
Especially when she has a husband at home.. she's completely obsessed with her son
@@gypsysoul86 Then he should hang out with his Dad.
It's super icky...my mother in law dislikes me but she's more passive aggressive about it and my man at least lives with me but it's still a tough situation. But at least my man chooses me hence his mother hating me so much but whatever...i got what i want.
I dated a guy like this. His mom would call everytime we were together and say something was wrong so he would come see her and she would say things like "I feel like you don't love me anymore because you're always with them". Yes, we broke up lol.
Hearing what your ex was like made me throw up on my mouth a little. 🤮
You 💖though, a real great role model for ditching him.
Good for you for getting rid of him!🎉 I hope you’re with someone who treats you right/you find someone who treats your right
@@evanjuleen I mean blame the mom for being that messed up and ruining her son like this lol. But good of og for getting out of this relationship.
Thank goodness for left
As an ex momma's boy, this really hits close to home. Me and my mom are quite close, everything in my life is dictated by her until to one point i started to go to boarding school. When i entered boarding school i began to learn independence and ya know a little bit of social life but i still followed her rules almost all the time. Times passed and i graduated from uni and went back to hometown to work. I stayed with them and things started to happen. Everything i did is no good for her, she wanted me to work for one company and i disagreed and worked in some other company and i got belittled everytime i got back home tired. I got called trash because i stress eat, got called useless and somehow i took it all. I wanted to buy a house and applied everything by myself and when i wanted to sign on it, my mom forced me to stop and forced me to buy another house that she wanted. I can't renovate the house on my own and when i did there is always a big fight for it. Imagine i can't even choose paint in my house without going through her.
Finally, i got married and things got worst. Mom try to control her, and fights grew bigger because i hate her controlling nature. She will always use the 9 months pregnant thing and the heaven under mom's feet (i am muslim, and in Islam its said Heaven is under mom's feet). My wife has a cat and i brought it to the house(that i was forced to buy) and my mom hated it. She forced me to send the cat away and i stood my ground and defended the cat. The fight grew so bad that i got disowned.. and guess what, i finally feel relaxed, my life felt better. I finally felt free.. Not sure what i am ranting but i just wanted to share my story, these kind of mom will use any technique to control the child. Its rotten, its toxic, its really disgusting.
I hope you're happy, healthy, and that your cat is also happy and healthy ❤️
I'm glad you stood up for yourself and are free from her insane behavior; you didn't deserve any of that.
*(The question has been answered, and I get it now. I no longer have the question you are about to read. I'm just leaving this part up so the replies make sense.)* However, a genuine question i have is how your mother could "force" you to do things you didn't want, like not sign a contract, purchase a different house, get rid of your wife's cat, etc? I understand children can be forced into things because when you're underage your parents can legally can control your finances and override any decisions you make. But as an adult with your own money, that goes away, so the worst she can do is complain but can't actually stop you anymore. So it's a hard for me to conceptualize this situation. *(Again I don't have this question anymore. I just left this part of the comment up instead of deleting it so other who come across OP's post can view the discussion.)*
Original Edit: I get it now. Seems like the confusion was caused by my problem of reading things too literally. So maybe people with the same question might have been too semantical as well.
Edit 2: *Added a disclaimer that I no longer have this question.* I just left the comment up to preserve the discussion. It's cool if others wanna still elaborate I guess but i just wanted to point it out so some kind person doesn't take the time out of their day thinking I still needed help. Also , I don't wanna hijack OPs post 👍
@@crappyaccount it's Stockholms syndrome
congrats on getting your shit together anyways! :)
I've seen some different takes on cats from muslims, ranging from islam almost mandating catpersonhood (muhammad approved of cats or something), and (of the common pets) only dogs indoors being haram, to all animals being banned from homes.
I’m really proud of you for standing your ground and protecting your wife and cat ❤ I pray your mom reflects and comes around one day 💖
As a guy who dates guys, a mama’s boy crosses a line for me when they’re living and spending all their time with their mothers. If they’re just living with their parents because of the housing economy, totally fair. When you’re spending every waking moment with your mother, you’re going to become codependent.
Yeah if you're 32 and living with your mother and dont have a wish to move out then its starting to get a little crazy
When Laila said, "Mommy going to die" .... Adult or not, that's a fucked up thing to say to your kid. Especially since she really was sick and close to death, AND knowing how much her son genuinely cares for her, that's like retraumatizing him over and over again just to manipulate and control him. Seeing people use others feelings like that against them makes me so mad 😠
Yes! Yaaaasssssss! Exactly this. 👏
Manipulative people using their health as a way to control their kids is cringe fr
That kinda makes me wonder about her health issues pre-show 🤔 Curious how long/much she has used this to guilt him, and how much was truly as bad as he believes? I feel icky even thinking about it, but I kinda doubt this just started happening during the show...
i heard Dr phil yelling reading this since there was a recent episode about NOT telling your children that you're DYING. so spot on
omg true she actually used to be in an actual life threatening situation and now constantly reintroduces that feeling to her son just to toy with him.. that makes me wanna yell at her in Shekebs shoes but she isnt one to reason with anyway
The most dangerous part of a dynamic like this within a mother and a son is something that happened to me. I was in an abusive relationship with a mamas boy, and when he put his hands on me I called his sister and mother and the first thing they told me was “are you taking your meds?” Because I was on antidepressants due to the result of the relationship.
Oh my god, im so sorry that happened to you ❤ I really hope your doing better, noone should EVER go through that
Yeah that sounds about right, because to them he could do nothing wrong and he is perfect so it has to be you and it’s so frustrating because literally everything is your fault in their eyes it’s unbelievable how far they will go to make you be the one at fault
I was SA'd by a family member and I wanted to tell a cousin. He said the same thing and suggested it was a delusion.
It breaks my heart when that happens so I hope you're on the path of healing 💜
Do not date a Mama's boy. There's a difference between a son who loves and respects his mom and a Mama's boy or a daddy's girl as well to be honest. It will not work especially if you're like Shekeb, who's clearly an enabler of his mom's manipulation.
I dont like men anyway
i would call CPS even if you're grown. i'm not gonna let teh Shekeb's drown under this abuse; ya'll need separation therapy :0
Don't forget mommy's girl.
Took me 5 and a half years to learn this lesson and it still breaks my heart. Generally wonderful human being but completely screwed up when it came to relationships and (lack of) boundaries set up by his mother ever since he was a child. It tore us apart in the end... and I dont think it'll ever change until she's passed
Anyone who has this kind of relationship with their parents has a lot of growth and healing work that they need to do before they're ready for a relationship
I think the dad is also at fault here, if I ever saw my wife treating my adult son like he was a toddler I would’ve stepped in and told them to cut that shit out
When Shekeb said 'You're blaming me for being close to my mom?' he sounded like his mom when she said 'You're choosing her over me?' Putting words in the other persons mouth to try to shut them down, because they're feeling emotionally vulnerable and aren't willing to have the conversation.
Also on a more serious note, when you make incest jokes, just remember if there really are suspicious signs, it would imply he's a victim, not just a pathetic guy. He'd be someone who was groomed to not have boundaries, and think this was right, or that bad things would happen if he didn't act the 'right way'.
And considering those things seem to be evident even without incestuous sounding weird phrases he uses, I just think it's worth considering whether you should at least aim those jokes at the MOM being creepy and not Shakeb crossing a line.
If anyone is crossing it, it's the parents who made him like this and did fuck all to stop it.
this right here
good insight, i never really thought about it like that. but parents will always know better than their kids (in this kind of situation) & they should be blamed for not teaching their kid the proper boundaries.
good point
Really good point 👌
Definitely emotional incest if nothing else. Shekeb is in serious need of therapy and cutting his parents off. No wonder the other son vanished
I'm Iranian (grew up in Canada) and my wife is Japanese. If my mom was like that I would have been so ashamed, and would not stand for it. It is frustrating to see the mother act that way, but even more frustrating to see Shekeb just not really do anything. And the father too, I feel sorry for him.
I imagine Shekeb has a lot of PTSD from dealing with his mom battling cancer, so hearing that she is sick is probably very scary and triggering. I've had to deal with my own mom nearly dying and it's always left me afraid for her health. So I do feel for him, especially since she is weaponizing it to manipulate her son.
Yeah a man who was inlove with me was a mamas boy N his mom had diabetes so he was always on edge but the mom loved me. She would give me gifts and shower me in compliments so it wasn’t too bad. Especially since the mom understood that he has enough time and love for the both of us.
But his mom has a husband to take care of her & worry about her as well
I agree he has that trauma weighing on him, but not all trauma=PTSD, (coming from someone with PTSD and mental health expertise) PTSD involves flashbacks that include actually thinking you're reliving the moment of trauma for example
I think so as well. When my stepmum died, I became very clingy to my mum. I would panic when she got a cold, cause I was scared I'd lose another mother figure.
@@beththegreen PTSD doesn't require you to have Flashbacks. That's a common misconception. OFTEN it does, but it is not required.
Honestly i don't think you know how important your videos could potentially be. You're teaching young people very important and helpful advice for maintaining healthy and respectful relationships while also adding good humour and being serious when required. It has helped me with my personal relationships i just wanted to thank you if you are reading this :)
Emily should start hanging out with the dad to get back at them lmaooooo
I might sleep with the dad for revenge lmao
imagine if emily took the dad with her whenever laila comes with shekeb
I think they would get along better than her and her son LMAO
I would like to add that Emily took this abuse and took this abuse until she finally snapped and then every comment on ever social media post called her gross and abusive and crazy for ripping up a damn plant at Laila’s. The whole internet gaslit Emily and it was so sad.
emily should start taking her mum with her to every date he invites laila on
Yes! 😂
genius
OMG YES! haha
that's some 4d chess!
I need to see a confrontation between them two where emily's mom just goes off
She is soooo much like my ex-mother in law. She does the “I’m sick” routine whenever anyone says no to her. We call it her dying duck routine. She constantly manipulates everyone to get her way. Everyone does what she says so as not to upset her. The stories I have would make your head spin.
Sounds like my grandma from mom's side. She is absolutly adorable but everything should be as She likes, otherwise she will start to say she is feeling sick. I can understand her beeing really anxious (I'm similar tbh) but up to a point.There is a thin line between how she acts out of anxiety and her wish to manipoulate the relatives.
He's suffering from emotional incest. I went through the same with with my mom. Stockholm perhaps, but his mother has out him in the role of her husband. She relies on him for her emotional and physical needs. This just makes me sad cause I can feel the war this man in trapped in. I hope he gets help.
was waiting for someone to say this !!
emotional incest, what a term. fitting tho
@@crappyaccount it's really difficult to find peace with that kind of abuse and the term for it really doesn't make it any easier to deal with
@@yukiokuma8983 Personally I think it needs a different term. It kinda co-opts a different kind of traumatic experience anyways, I don’t know why certain professionals decided to start using it. They used to call it enmeshment, it’d make sense to continue that imo.
I’m sorry you’ve been thought it either way. But glad that you’re speaking in past tense.
@@sourgreendolly7685 my therapist calls it enmeshment. It's so much easier to hear.
Thank you. I'm still struggling with it on a daily basis but I'm far better then before covid. I'm finally figuring out who I am outside of my mother.
As a psychology major, it's baffling to me that shakeebs mom hits the same toxic traits as mother gothel from tangled, beat for beat. She is literally a cartoon villain and simply because she raised him, shakeebs stuck with her.
the thought to punch a senior citizen in the teeth has never crossed my mind until today
bro. i thought i was the only one feeling violent. that lady is UNBEARABLEEE
Seriously....that cake would've ended up in her face
Cant relate. Ive always wanted to... To the bitchy old ppl
definitely the first cancer survivor I've wanted to yell at and brawl that's for sure
if i was emily i would be livid towards layla UGLY THINGS WOULD HAPPEN 👹
I feel for this girl. She deserves better
My doggy is named Layla, this episode confused her. She kept hearing her name and tilting her head at the screen and then barking. She did not approve. Lol
Give her all the pets and cuddles!
I don’t know why this is so cute but it is
Dang, even the dog was putting up with this toxic mess🤣 Give her all the pets & love ❤️
Hope your dog isn't as possesive as woman in this episode
I bet your pupper is a billion times nicer than that old witch. Dogs are the best people.
My first husband's mom was just like this. She had two sons and both of them were in the most incestuous emotional relationship with their mom. Her husband was a quiet puppet of a man as well. My husband served me divorce papers after his mother demanded we separate because she wanted to pick the name of our first kid and I said no. I later caved and let her pick the name but soon after that we did end up divorced. Thank god lol
Watching this makes me feel very grateful for my wonderful mother-in-law, who has been kind and welcoming towards me from the moment my husband and I started dating.
I'm not gonna lie when she cussed the mom out for the first time I didn't feel bad at all but I think she should just leave because it just seems like Shakeb likes women fighting over him
Although I'm pretty sure it's scripted it's still amusing 😂
Plot twist: Emily is just a really good friend of his, trying to help him overcome his mommy issues.
10/10 therapy bestie
Shekeb is totally enjoying this. He's enjoying having two women "fight" over him, even if one is his mom. But also, I'm getting vibes that his mom groomed him when he was young. Awful situation all around
His mum bathing him until 6th grade?? Wtf
That or she’d reject the baby. No matter what it’s bad.
Yeah she acts pretty much exactly how my mom acted before I left. Like word for word and the exact same actions. I've had to run away from home to get away from my parents.
I'm a fellow Indian kid and my mom even went to the extent of attempting suicide to try and keep me in the house away from my now fiancé. There's a lot more to the story but as someone that was an ex-Momma's boy, I've had to disown my family to obtain the independence that I want because my mom and dad genuinely went to insane extents to try and keep me under their control. I felt like I was in a Bollywood movie the entire time and couldn't believe that my parents were the ones doing this. They seriously need therapy because they don't see that they're doing anything wrong.
I've literally asked my mom if she's ever wrong, and genuinely she didn't think she's ever wrong. I mean to the point that she'll lie about something she's done and claim she never said/did that. She also doesn't have a sense of humor so that doesn't help in trying to find a way to diffuse tension. You just have to sit there arguing or listening to her argue for hours on end.
I'm sad my mom and dad have forced this situation but I'm glad to have the freedom to do whatever I want without being controlled. I genuinely feel sorry for everyone that's also had to deal with a similar situation and I'm happy I managed to get away from my parents before I had to go through what Shekeb is going through.
That’s crazy! Glad you found your independence
Congrats on finding your independence, that sounds deeply traumatic and very difficult. Do you still have a relationship with them?
@@thilypad557 I don't actually. This all happened over the course of this year and so me disowning them happened about 3 weeks ago.
@Breanne Tsang Thank you!! I appreciate it. I'm definitely taking each day as it comes but I'm honestly just enjoying life without the drama for now. I'm Telugu so I'm trying to get my fiance to watch some telugu movies but that's gonna take a while since it's pretty triggering for her. Outside of that, things are going really well and we're enjoying each other's company.
I hope your wedding goes well!! Happy married life!!
As long as he tolerates and enables his mom's behviour she will never change. As long as Emily tollerates his behavior he will never change. What you permit, you approve. Hope she escapes this toxic relationship.
Agree fully.
As someone who is fairly close to his mother, if she ever said "I'll die if you leave with my girlfriend" I would call her out on the spot. Insane how Shekeb has absolutely no backbone, looking forward to s2!
His mum probably lied about her leg because she didn't want him to have dinner with his girlfriend. If my boyfriends mum did that I would be livid holy shit.
I was thinking the same thing.
I've literally told my mother in law to back off before her teeth go missing when she's tried to pull similar crap. It worked. Ha!
She called her a pig! That’s where I’d draw the line. AND ALSO SETTING HIM UP ON A DATE WHEN SHE AGREED SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE AMENDS WITH EMILY. Bro Emily is either a saint or a fool for having stuck around after those two things.
@@thilypad557 My stubborn bitch brain would refuse to leave because of the principle. Leaving is what she wants and I'd force myself to suffer just to spite her lmao
My mother in law did this to me, she brought a single woman around half her age, from the same church she attends. She really wanted my husband not to be with me for some reason. Craziness!!!!
As a parent you should be happy your child found someone they wants to spend their life with and who loves them back. It is beyond me why some mothers, and it is shocking how many there are out there, cannot let their fing sons live their lives. Seen this to many times in real life. Runnn ladies, run!
I'm calling narcissisttic behavior, can't let go of her kid cuz it's someone to control
Personally I think it can have something to do with different cultures or lifestyles. When a girl or a woman has her future limited to household + kids only, then that small space becomes their whole world. If one has no say over anything outside of that small world, then it's natural to want full control of what's happening in your small world. I don't know if that is actually the case here, idk them personally. Also I'm not attacking any culture specifically; this might as well happen in the West in a family of pre 1960's mindset. Just saying that when a person's freedom in whichever sense is limited (including personal development), they can become obsessed with little things. Because they might not have an identity otherwise.
@@Black.Spades This is a very good explanation and sounds most plausible tbh! In my culture, at least in the past, most women were simply expected to live out the rest of their life as housewives/mothers. With such limited prospects, many just ended up hyper-focusing on their children, especially sons (I still hear of boys in their teens being handfed by their moms lol). They probably feel threatened when a woman shows up and takes away the attention that was reserved just for them all this time and their identity as a mother is put at risk in a sense. This kinda ends up perpetuating a cycle of mother-in-laws hating their daughter-in-laws
I dated a mommas boy for 6 years and it was JUST like this. We would all vacation and he’d be holding her hand while I walked alone, no lie.
As someone who was raised by a narcissist and is borderline, my advice when someone threatens, "If you leave, I'm going to die/kill myself/hurt myself," respond with, "Then it sounds like you need a doctor, let me call an ambulance," and get them to the hospital. Even if it was an idle threat, you can never be sure. And if they are manipulating others like that, frankly... they need help anyway.
And yes, I say that as someone who has made such threats, and even acted on them. It is NOT on you to be their lifeline--get help for them, and get help for yourself. Even if you think you're tough enough to care for someone like that, you still need support. You can't help them if they won't get help, and you can't help them if you burn out yourself.
(Pro-tip if you live in America and don't want to saddle someone with that obscene ambulance bill... call the crisis hotline or crime check for a wellness check. Police suck ass, but they don't charge for transporting you to the hospital ....yet.)
Great advice. Thank you. And I hope you’re doing well
The bathing him until 6th grade thing made me remember that my sister had a friend whose mom bathed her (and probably all of her siblings) until freshman year of high school.
The mom literally told my mom, "Well, you know, she's at the age where she can shower by herself now and she just doesn't understand shampoo and conditioner yet."
I think I would DIE if my mom bathed me that long
My cut off limit if when a mum can't see any faults in their son. Seeing anyone as perfect is dangerous. The beauty of love if that you accept and love someone flaws and all.
Bingo
right she doesn't have to say them out loud but she clearly just sees him as an extension of herself who she probably sees as always in the right/an eternal victim
Yeah, my mom would roast my ass if my girlfriend, wife, etc ever asked what she thinks my flaws are. I'd say we have a good relationship but she would not hold back if asked
this is far too common an experience, especially in certain cultures like many middle eastern cultures. unfortunately, the only solution is to go no contact with the parent in question. they are deeply trapped in a destructively selfish mindset. and it's made unbelievably clear when the child tells them exactly why they are going no contact, and the parent still never changes despite being so upset and miserable that they don't have their child in their life anymore. if no contact can't change them, how could any form of contact be different?
Oof my heart goes out to Emily, she did everything right in my opinion. She tried and it didn't work so time to move forward. I can only imagine what that man's mother is doing to Emily's mental health.
I think it's incredibly messed up that IF he got married, it'd sour and end in divorce because of her. I don't think it's love. I mean, she's already ruining his relationship with a girlfriend, they're not even married yet! It's extremely disturbing.
I can't imagine showing up to a dinner where my bf's mom is trying to set him up with someone else. That's insane.
This woman is so good to him
And he does not deserve her
He said how often do we get to be alone as if they had 5 kids or something. This couple is gross to me. Being with a mama’s boy is nauseating, their mothers have made them their pseudo husbands for one reason or another.
Emily is a great person. She doesn't deserve to be treated like this. I understand how it is to have parents that don't treat you well.
My first ex was Korean. I put myself through medical training, got a job at the top hospital in the country, made more money than my ex, and his parents still didn't like me because Im black. Emily's mom probably cares more about her future son in law's race than the money. Nothing will make them happy if less than what they have in mind.
I was dating an Asian guy and everything was great until his mom realized our relationship was getting serious. She invited me for dinner one evening, sat across from me, looked me in the eyes and said: “I really like you, you’re a wonderful person, but I can’t let my son marry you because WHAT Would our neighbors say?”. Neighbors!! I thought she was joking, but I looked at my ex.. and immediately knew it was over.
@@bella3775 Wow wtf. Seriously bump them neighbors!
At least you were invited for dinner. I was young and in love so yes we dated for 4.5 years and only met his parents maybe twice.
@@mob_noise I wasn’t from the same culture and she wasn’t gonna be judged by her damn neighbors.. we were dating for 5 years at that point and were in our early 30s. it took me years to recover from that.. not to mention the obscene amount of money spent on therapy.
@@bella3775 Oh I get it. The ex I'm talking about was from 18 - 22 for me. I'm still in therapy for the rejection I felt from people who legit didn't know me. From trying to please people who I could never simply because of my race. Really messes with someone.
@@mob_noise I initially went to therapy to heal from rejection and ended up figuring out why I was with that dude in the first place, dating him for 5 years and hoping his family would accept me.
Some people have a significant other this man has a significant mother
the most frustrating thing about these kind of situation is that NO ONE, literally no one steps in to slap reality onto these people but then again its reality tv
Even if it wasn’t reality TV, there’s no slapping reality into these people. Mom is a malignant narcissist who sees her son as an extension of herself and that will never change, never, not possible. There’s no cure for that. The son is extremely psychologically damaged, possibly beyond help as well.
The only part of reality tv that’s actually real😢
I think Emily didn't leave because she knew that if she left, the mom would win. It's like trying to walk away from an argument and the person says, "That's what I thought."
The neighbors are like, "We'll be in the show as long as you don't say we're on Laila's side." They are going to have some great stories from that night for their actual friends.
"and don't claim that we're her friends, we're just neighbors!"
They were just there for the 'poison' cake.
They took everyday is mother's day to a whole new level
Nothing makes the day better like a Sixteenleo notification💯
Word 🤘🏻
Especially 1 hour and 30 minutes worth !!
Agreed.
for real!! I am so glad to see this is a long one too :)
- Very much agreed . The long videos be the best too ,
The dad seems like a pretty laid back cool guy.
Shekeb was the worst guy on this show, even more than the crazy guy with the Karen mom. Because while Matt is just crazy, Shekeb comes across as cowardly and manipulative. I feel so bad for Emily, she takes so much shit from his prejudiced mom, and Shekeb makes her feel like she's crazy because he literally just sits there! Like my guy, stand up for your partner.
Matt is the worst guy on the show by a long shot. Shekebs mom is just the worst mother followed closely by Matts mom. Also, Emily starts to act way differently in recent episodes
Totally agree, been in his position and some of these clips are hitting very personally right now so i apologize if this comes off as a rant but she takes so much shit from him, three plus years is so so long to be stuck in a relationship like this. He's gotta get that backbone working and he won't learn unless he starts taking action
@@palmtrees2420 I mean yeh I can't really disagree with that, Matt just seems... off, like he's got creepy serial killer vibes on top of doing the most unhinged shit ever. But Shekeb is just more frustrating because of the way he gaslights Emily and then repeatedly sits there like a coward while his partner is being berated.
I think the difference is that with Matt, I feel like there's no hope for a good relationship. Dude needs psychiatric help or some shit. But for Shekeb the solution is really simple, he just refuses to stand up to his mother.
@@palmtrees2420 I mean, I would turn into a goddamn bitch if I was treated that way by my partner's mom in front of rooms full of people.
@@heboric6136 She wasn’t stuck though. Don’t get me wrong, I know it feels like you’re stuck first hand but if they weren’t living together and such she very easily could’ve left before it got to her demasculinizing him (verbal/emotional abuse) and throwing things (physical abuse). I’ve had those breaking points myself so I sympathize but at the same time, it’s very important to know it shouldn’t get to that point when it’s avoidable and here it really is.
This might not apply to your situation, so please don’t think I’m assuming it does. I had one in my teens that applied to and one in my 20s where I was very much actually trapped with that person - I don’t see my reactions to him as a relevant lesson so much as I need to look for warning signs so being trapped never happens again for my own sanity.
tldr; it depends on the specifics. Emily had the ability to leave.
My ex was literally this with his mother. They are also afghani and she hated me before even meeting me. Emily should definitely cut her losses. Shekebs mom will never stop
Listening to Leo break things down makes me feel sane in the face of utter insanity. This mother makes me feel so much anxiety. She's giving off shades of my own abusive mother. Learning how to live my life again away from her has shown me just how destructive that sort of influence can truly be and often is.
As an asian girl currently dating a white man who my mother doesn't know about yet. She's been controlling and adusive all my life. She never let me hang out with my friends, never allowed me to have social media, stalks all my devices, not allowed to text or call anyone and having a boy would pretty much have me dead. All this control I took on for years until I finally snapped this year realising I'm turning 18, turning into an adult and I cannot keep living under these suffocating rules and control so I moved out. I can invision something like this happening when she finds out about my boyfriend but there is no way that she's having a say in whether I'm with him or not. I don't need her permission to be with him, only a blessing and thats optional too. You have to draw the line when it comes to your own relationship because its your life and your future, your mother isn't going to live that future for you, so you have to include what you want in it for yourself.
“if you leave the house i’m gonna go die” yup i’m out
Him and his mom really took Oedipus and Freud to heart
I don’t know how Emily puts up with all of that, my threshold for mama boy BS is very low. It’s wonderful to have a great relationship with your folks and considering the economy it’s fine to live with them too but I draw the line at the childlike behavior and the overly intrusive mother. You need time and space to create the emotional intimacy needed for a long term relationship and that if he’s constantly at the beck and call of his mum then there is no room for that.
I dated a momma’s boy and it taught me to NEVER do that again
I was with someone for 4 years. We lived with his great aunt so he could take care of her and she hated me. For no reason. She was just nasty to me and loved when he and I argued. I put up with it bc I loved him so much and he actually stood up for me every time she was nasty to me so it made it worth it. Shekebs mom..I would have called her a pig right back 😭
my bf of 4 yrs is a huge mommas boy but she's so respectful and doesn't cross any boundaries like this at all. i feel so lucky. he's obviously attached and she's the most important but she isn't jealous or weird at all and i feel so lucky 😭
Emily’s mom is the only person with some sense in this scenario.
Emily’s mom is the reason Emily is in relationship with this guy, who was bathed by his mother until he was in the 6th grade, she’s being abused and is unable to leave. While Emily’s mom might seem sensible in comparison, she is very broken.
Hey. I'm gunna post this a couple times I hope you see this. I have had days out with people which arnt healthy for me and all I Need to do is watch ONE of your videos and you set me straight. People are people.respect is respect. Please never stop doing videos 🤩
I don’t know who’s crazier the mom? or Emily for staying?!🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Mom is crazy, Emily is desperate
@@TuberoseKisser that’s a better way to describe them! Lol
bro the husband tho
Emily is crazy too in the later episodes
Shekeb thooough
My dad had never been on a date without his mom until my mom. She refused and he stepped up. They still divorced later, lots of other incompatibility lmao, but I give both of them kudos for it. Her for standing up for them and him for actually escaping the fog. Plus my abuela has gotten so much better over time, but at the time it was new country, new people, yeah I’m not surprised she latched onto family while she could either.
“Sitting there with his arms crossed like a bouncer….. and everyone is getting into the club” took me out 🤣… chef’s kiss Leo…. Chef’s kiss.
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Dude I literally agreed with my ex mil once and she screamed at me while I was holding my baby for agreeing with her. Some of these moms are ridiculous and some of these dudes won't let go (he was 26 btw). If they act like that and your man doesn't stand up for you it won't happen. Let it go.
And tbf I didn't leave him because of his momma. I held on and pretended it wasn't happening and allowed myself to be treated that way in front of my kid.
On the flip, she lied to me and was letting her son do coke in the bathroom so..
Girl: I want a boyfriend that loves his mom and treats her well.
Shekeb:
"And I took that personally" 🤷
This situation is just sad. I feel like Shakeeb needs therapy to help him understand creating healthy boundaries is okay. His mom knows he will drop everything for her because of her cancer scare, so pain and death trigger him and brings true feeling of fear. I truly feel so bad for Emily, Shakeeb, and Shakeeb’s father. They are all hurting because of the mother’s manipulative BS
The more things I see like this, the more grateful I become that I have a good relationship with my mother-in-law. Her and my sister-in-law (who has been one of my best friends years before my husband and I started dating) set us up lol. She told me before our first date that she believed I was the one for him. She’s literally the sweetest (I’m literally watching this while I wait to go to dinner with her).
Hey thats awesome. Congratulations on all accounts. It sounds like you not only have a good husband, but a good 2nd family. Thats an enviable situation.
What part of Narnia did you grow up in? I need to be there xD
i had to tell my parents to eff off and so did me partner; dropped them like hot potato sacks. they're allegedly sorry but...no more chances o_o
This is super cute, made me happy
There's a huge difference between a loving family man and a mama's boy, so glad I was lucky to find a family man and that my mother in law isn't controlling like this
She might be worried about him like most moms would be but she is honestly the best mom in law I could ever have, I see her as my mom as well since she's the closest thing I have to one
i get so disgusted seeing family relationships like this. its fucking weird and i always feel for the child in the situation bcz theyre a victim of emotional incest and dont even realize it. some moms really just be falling in love with their child and it actually makes my blood boil
Boundaries and clear communication is essential. Even it the guy isn't a mommas boy those are important.
I dont put up with alot of nonsense so my limit isn't super specific but would most likely have to do with not clearly communicating or setting boundaries. If a guy can't say what they want or need out of a situation like that then it's gonna be frustrating.
My cousin had a similar relationship with his mother. He was well over 40 (and still living with her) when he finally met his future wife. Somehow she managed to persuade him to move cities and now they live about 3 hours away from his mother. Let's hope Shekeb finds someone similar.
Has he changed at all ?
As much as I feel for Emily( a lot) i really do feel like shekeb is a victim of abuse.
His mother has forced herself upon him in such a way that he relies on her love and attention and has done everything to isolate him from anything he tries to choose for himself. It's no wonder he is so on the fence. He has been manipulated for his whole life probably to not know how to make a decision for himself.
I would wager a guess that is why Emily has had so much patience with him. She seems emotionally intelligent, from how direct she is, and her ability to cut through right to the root of her problems and his problems. I'd also wager that behind closed doors, she has heard stories from Shekeb about his childhood and saw those red flags of abuse. With a nurturing nature, I think she wanted to help escape at the very least. I think that's why she brings up being a man so often to Shekeb, because she sees him as the scared little boy he was never able to grow out of being.
For all the jokes, and rediculousness, this is an extremely sad situation. Layla knows exactly what she is doing, it's sick and twisted. We even have a point of reference that is not a cultural thing either- because of the other two parents. Shekeb's father is of the same culture and does not act this way, and in fact is also under her controlling abusive thumb. We also see Emily's mother who essentially wants the same for her daughter as Layla does, but does not go so far as to control her daughter is more preoccupied with Emily's feelings when she confides in her further. Layla in not at all concerned about Shekeb'f thoughts or feelings as an individual. To her, Shekeb is her possession.
The levels of discomfort and rage i feel about the mother skyrockets every new word she has and nothing deflates is at all
This is a crazy window into the generational gap between people who believe in arranged marriage and people who believe in making their own damn decisions
If his mom was my mom an she threatened to die over me leaving with my partner after she caused a scene, I would jus look her in the face an say "no you won't. Cause then you'd never see me again" if she wants to emotionally abuse an manipulate me then I'll do it right back. The way some mothers act with their sons is gross imo.
Yeah my Mum used to say stuff like that (no contact now for obvious reasons) and that really is the only way to break their manipulative delusions… sometimes you just have to give it to em straight
The problem is, his mother has groomed him into being this way and victims of abuse have a hard time saying no to their abusers.
@@RadioRudie my mother is emotionally an used to be physically abusive. I know what he's going through an that's why I said what I said. I used to walk on egg shells around my mother until I found the person that loves me an now I tell her the truth when she gets like how his mother gets. Unresponsive, controlling an disrespectful. My father also takes my mother's side in EVERY situation even when he know how unreasonable my mother is being.
That’s that coldest burn I’ve ever heard. It’s what shekeb’s mum deserves😂
Leo my god you've introduced me to some of the craziest nonsense that people actually go through and do and i love every minute of it. Humor 10/10, sage wisdom 10/10. You tha man Leo, keep going, glad i found your channel.
My ex-husband would interrupt sex to answer the phone from his mom. I thought it would change when we got married.
Don't. Marry. Someone. Who. Loves. Their. Mom. Like. This.
It will NOT CHANGE unless they mom/son divorce.
Was your ex husband indian ?
Emily: I’m ready to be aggressive at this point
Me: be aggressive be be aggressive
Sixteenleo is the only way I can watch these toxic cringe worthy reality tv shows 💀 Great work!
Same😬
I think when she says "be a man" she means it more as "be an adult not a child" rather than it being about his masculinity per se.
Can we get a 'It's for LOVERS not for MOTHERS' shirt swag lmao
so excited for season two!!! love how you talk abt what healthy relationships actually look like, its rlly wonderful.
I’m glad you covered this show. I couldn’t watch the actual show in full without severely raising my blood pressure.
Ive had my share of unbearable mom's..my ex fiance's mom hated me with a burning passion for what reason I don't know, I was like 19..My ex's parents are divorced and I'm really close with her dad and one day when I was at her crib a check worth 2million went missing..I had no idea about this until the Police detective called me, which was apparently also a friend of hers questioning me..Of it wasn't for her dad stepping in and telling the cops that I would never do something like that and his ex is just crazy and vindictive..My ex cut her mom off for repeatedly disrespecting me and trying to cause a fall out with me and my mom..We eventually broke up for other reasons and we remained friends, now we are best friends and I'm her kids Goddad.her mom is back in her life and is trying to be in the grandkids life, she claims she wants to have a reship with me as well but that woman frightens me
“You’re showing your body” camera zooms out and shows someone dressed nearly from head to toe. Both ignoring him on the rock wall.
i’m a single mother of a one year old son. i can’t possibly imagine ever becoming as crazy as this lady, but i can see how if i never dated again or had good friends i could come to rely on my son too much for my happiness. especially after learning about mothers like this, i will be cautious as to never be overbearing. all though i love my cuddle sessions with my peanut now, obviously at some point you have to realize your baby is no longer a baby and let go a little bit. if you don’t you will only hurt them in the end.
Wow when Colt can stand up to his mom more than this guy...that's saying something. And if I was the dad I would be sitting on the side like wtf about me and this is wierd ,not to mention she is setting him up for disaster when she isn't around anymore
If it’s starting to get age inappropriate and she’s doing things I should be doing, it’s over. It’s over and his car is on fire if she does horrible shit to me and then he picks her side.
I was shocked 40 minutes in that she actually still had her husband around! Wtf?
i feel sorry for emily. if a man acts like this, i’m breaking up. i don’t want to date him when i know that he’s not gonna stand up for me, that’s what a partner is supposed to do.
Man I feel for Emily so much she really putting in all this effort and just getting devalued by his mom over a culture that’s so sad
My ex was a mommas boys. We dated during HIGH SCHOOL and even when I was like 16 I had a grown woman insulting me and calling me names while my ex just didn’t see anything wrong with it :/
Same. Lol My ex's mom hated me in high school too. It was so weird to get a bunch of hate from a whole grown ass woman.
My (married 30 y/o female) cut off would be a partner choosing their mother over me. If you want to start a family with someone, the two of you need to be priority if that makes sense. Also, I will text my parents that I love them on valentine's day, but to go on an evening date with your parent instead of your partner? Yikes..
Great vid Leo!
I'm getting the sense that there's some unresolved trauma surrounding Lila's battle with cancer, for both mother and son. They need a therapist, not a reality TV show.
It took me a long time to get my shit together and become an "adult" in more than just age group. Mostly due to unresolved childhood trauma and physical health issues. But even at my worst lows in active addiction, I was never this codependent on anyone.
If you think Laila is the most manipulative mom, you need to see Sunhe and Angelica from Smothered. That mother is a PIECE OF WORK!!
Yeah they actually bathe together lol
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@@rosiei1846 what in the alabama... 🤢🤢🤮🤮
If my mum tried to feed me I’d be asking if she poisoned me and what kind was it lol. How can grown adults feel comfortable having their mother FEED THEM. WTF. Also curse you for getting me so invested in this that I needed to know and binged the show 😅
people who bring others together and then do nothing when those two start arguing drive me nuts. my dad was like this with my stepmom. she would very clearly target me for no reason and when i confronted him about not telling her to stop he would just shrug "u gotta pick ur battles"
he would get mad me "im so exhausted i just want to relax but u two r always putting me in the middle"
id explain ive tried talking to her but she isnt working with me. if he wants thos to end he needs to make his stance clear. "u gotta pick ur battles"
its so stupid wen pple do this. u have to be assertive and tell someone where u stand. u cant just go with the raging tides if u ever want a peaceful home. so stupid
Someone needs to set this old monster straight. I know that sometimes parents don’t approve of their kid’s choice in partners, but there is no excuse for this type of of childishness and rudeness. Before I was married, my mom often disagreed with my chosen girlfriends, but she was never any less than cordial and considerate, and made them feel welcome as a guest in her home. If she had a specific problem with something they did, she would wait to speak to me, the gf, or the both of us together, and not in front of anyone else, let alone a group of people at a party. It’s only his mom’s fault to a certain point though, because if Shekeb was an actual adult man, he would have put his foot down a long time ago. Neither his mom nor his girlfriend will ever respect him if he doesn’t. I don’t even know if he’s redeemable at this point- his mom is super-manipulative and has learned that his lack of spine makes him easy to wrap around her little finger. I feel bad for his girlfriend, and I hope she leaves him and meets someone who will treat her the way she deserves.