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In the world of electric cars, the SUV sector is where it’s all happening. Whether you’re a fan or not, there’s no disputing the facts that family car buyers are continuing to choose mid-size SUVs in huge numbers.
The Kia Niro EV has been a fixture in the electric car market for five years, wowing buyers with its remarkable efficiency, practicality and value for money. Completely refreshed last year, it remains one of the best all-rounders in the business and still represents a great buy.
But the competition is now tougher than ever. BYD’s first offering for the UK market - the Atto 3 - hopes to take a bite out of Kia’s sales, and comes with a packed specification list and a decent range from its 60.5kWh battery pack.
But which is the most deserving of your cash? Join Tom as he pitches the BYD Atto 3 and Kia Niro EV head-to-head to find out which is the more convincing package. Do you agree with Tom’s verdict? Which would you choose from these two? As always, we love to hear your opinion, so please let is know what you think in the comments below.
BYD Atto 3
Price: £36,490 Comfort - £38,990 Design
201bhp, 228lb ft of torque
Front wheel drive, 1-spd
7.3 seconds 0-62mph, 99mph top speed
60.5kWh battery (useable), 261 miles range WLTP
88kw DC, 7.4kw AC (optional 11kw), 44 min fast DC, 66min 50kW
9hr 45 mins on home wallbox
Weight: 1,825kg
Boot: 440-litres/ 1,338 seats folded (No frunk)
Tow: no
Standard heatpump
Vehicle-to-load 3.3kW AC
Five star EuroNcap
No frunk
6year warranty, 8 year battery, 8 years roadside assist
Kia Niro EV 4
Starts at £36,795 (£40,495 if test car is ‘4’ grade)
201bhp, 188lb ft of torque
Front wheel drive, 1-spd
7.8 seconds 0-62mph, 103mph top speed
64.8kWh battery (useable), 285 miles range WLTP
80kw DC, 11kw AC, 45 min fast DC, 64min 50kW
10hr 30 on home wallbox
Weight: 1,739kg
Boot: 475-litres (1,392)
70kW Average charge speed and nine mins quicker than the old one
Battery pre-condition via navigation
Vehicle-to-device
Heatpump optional
Frunk
Can tow 750kg
7 year/100k warranty (3yr unlimited)
1yr roadside assistance
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I have Atto3 since March this year here in the Netherlands 🇳🇱. And it is just an amazing car. The best value of my money. Its drives smooth, charge it to 100% and every options what I could think of have it on it. And for so less price. Really loving it.❤
did your kids play guitar in the car?
@@edwardhochwand9063 they played like for first 2 or 3 times we went somewhere, but then they got kind of bored I guess 😁 now they play it but very often and also not for long.
@@Batman.3.8could you share where did you get it... I am in NL too
BYD obviously more quiet, more comfortable and more powerful. Also with big sun roof, 360 degree camera view, seat heater, auto lane/distance keeper and more…
Even without considering the price difference, Atto3 interior, exterior and blade battery wins my vote.
too expensive.
@@tooltalk 42K euro ...pff no way
@@xeraoh Under 32000 euro in Australia, $52000 AUS
I don’t know why Tom says the Kia is more refined and sophisticated when how can clearly hear how much noisier the Kia is on the inside compared to the Atto 3. I test drove the BYD, a new Leaf and a regular hybrid Niro recently and as the owner of a previous generation Leaf I think the Atto will be my next car, it is great and it feels so much better built and with more flair than the others
OWNED TWO KIA PREMIUM MODELS IN MY LIFE THE LAST 10 YEARS. BELIEVE ME, KIA AND REFINEMENT DONT COME TOGETHER
He’s mic is terrible so they’re using the mic from the camera I assume, that’s why you can hear so much road noise
I also think the same. Even his voice seems worst in KIA@@duca8063
Because these are anglo Saxons and their colonial empire does not like China being independent and strong country therefore their propaganda forces them to downgrade Chinese cars it's pretty obvious
I had the chance to get into theses two cars last week in Barcelona, I found the Atto more comfortable , sepecially in the back seats.
new King byd
Yes, BYD wins
@@silveriver9 >> Yes, BYD wins
the cabin noise is noticeably a lot louder in the Kia Niro Ev than in Byd Atto 3
way way way lounder. It is hard to hear actually. It is a EV. Why is it so loud?
In reality theyre both shit
A lot of that is down to the microphone settings. Having driven both there is nothing betyween the two in my opinion. Both are way quieter than my Model Y.@@edkk2010
To me it seems like the Mic had issue. even the presenter voice is less quality and more echoed
Well the review was a bit limited, I have both a BYD Atto 3 and a Tesla M3 and am in many ways most impressed with the BYD, it can tow (in AUS), it has the sunshade and sun roof, it has LFP battery that can be and should be charged to 100% whereas the Lithium Ion of the NERO is recommended to generally be charged to 80% and not to run flat. Its adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist is equal to the Tesla, The difference between ECO and sport are significant (we use Sport all the time), the regen braking has several levels and whilst the highest level is not one pedal driving per the Tesla it is not far off and when the brake is applied light to medium the deceleration is all regen. And really the so oft repeated negative/ blah comment re the upholstery style of the BYD is unfortunate. Some like me, really like it as it throws out the blandness of the me too style of so many other new car offerings. The longer we have the have the BYD the more I like it. And I am not negative to Kia, they have made some fantastic cars that I have been brand loyal to for some 8 years with a Sorrento Platinum and a Stinger GT that got traded to the BYD and the Tesla.
有钱人。
Yeah, I got the atto 3 first then got the model y, about 4 months apart.
Same, the “hi BYD” function is smarter than Tesla, I prefer it’s Apple CarPlay, I drive in sport all the time as well. Only down side is it’s pretty compact and how the menu system works is too complex.
Tesla is great, more power but I drive in chill mode all the time, lots more storage, lots after market cosmetic to play with. However I hate their native navigation logic and they won’t do Apple CarPlay; paid $82k for Tesla, $52k for BYD.
We still have both cars, I consider BYD is priced to sell well, it’s proven reliability in overseas market. Will not consider Korean & Japanese EV at this stage as their R&D is in ICE; European is not even close being a competitor in regards of EV at all. The mrs like the new MG convertible design, I’ll sell my Merc to buy that when it comes out. Would love to get Nio for kids but they don’t sell in Australia.
Weak review
i own an atto3 as well, and i too love the interior of the car.. its just so different than everything else out there, and being an EV, its perfectly ok to be different. the car is also very comfortable and quiet, despite the standard tyres not being EV specific "silent" tyres. the car is also very well specced with all the creature comforts i need.
>> it has LFP battery that can be and should be charged to 100%
I own a BYD Atto 3 in Thailand. Love the styling inside and out! Blade batteries should outlast the Kia. My short wife has to use a pillow under her bum to get her head higher to make the driver's seat comfortable. Then, all is well. NOTE: after purchasing an Atto 3 my friend's family happily sold his Benz and BMW.
As an owner of Atto3, it has been very good for various family usages.
I don't want to hand over my information to the Chinese. My information is valuable. Always beware of the Communist Party.
Why did you choose Atto 3?
@@nielsjunker1487 because it's made in Chine
@JasonD-yc3oy The BYD ATTO 3 is actually the top selling EV in some markets (for example Singapore).
It beats out better known brands in those markets..
So clearly there must be some good reasons for choosing the ATTO 3.
@@ChinaSongsCollection because they are chinese. people outside china do not want to buy made in China
Did you notice how quiet byd is while driving and kia is so noisy?
Yes, KIA has very poor insulation on the car
The Kia is like the Hyundai as both from Korea very noisy and very tinny sounding, please you have to pay an extra cost for basic extras, terrible buy
Are u kidding 😂 the sound was off from the start even when they were talking in the car standing still 😂 so sounds like a mic problem
The BYD Blade battery, however, is thoroughly impressive, and it is LFP which means no cobalt is used (more environmentally friendly and less concers about child labour in mines).
Plus the interior quality is exceptional. Also, the Atto 3 entry level is comparative to the Niro 3, which is £39k.
It is a shame that this is an electrical car channel and does not even mention this. The biggest plus is that the BYDs battery will outlast kias 3-10 times!
There's no mention of charging, byd charges to 100% with no degradation issue. Not sure if Nero has 80% charger recommendation, hence less range in daily use... Just like most Tesla. Not 100%.
Now do a search for BYD blade fire 🔥🚘🔥
@@akeshshi9137 The blade battery is really not easy to catch fire. The fire videos you see are basically BYD’s DMI models. The fire is basically caused by the heat dissipation of the engine and some artificial arson (because the sudden rise of BYD has beaten many other brands), However, the LG battery used by KIA is notorious, and it burned to the point that it directly cost Ford billions。
@@niechen608 The videos are from the people in China and they are blade batteries. Stop confusing others with obvious facts.
I can't believe in the UK how the price of both vehicles is so close when in Australia the Atto 3 is considerably cheaper which makes it a no brainer. There's no angle on the drivers screen either in the Aus model. Because of the price being so close I can understand why they went for the Niro EV. Shame they didn't talk about the battery tech because because the Atto 3 is more superior especially if you're planing on keeping the vehicle for a long time! LFP can expect more than twice the number of charging cycles and you can charge to 100% with no fear of damaging the battery. Just like how people charge their mobile phone. Cheers.
UK the tax is high than Australia
I'm in china and an atto 3 here is the equivalent of £19k top spec. Now you all know what the duty and vat comes to .
@@stevoz6743 Agree, decoupling from the US.
Cheap valued goods always have a market in the rest of the globe.
UK tax to China EV is crazy high. I never buy Korean products again when I understand their quality😢
>> LFP can expect more than twice the number of charging cycles and you can charge to 100%
Great report. We have both in Australia and luckily we get the 12" screen in the Atto3 which is excellent and unobtrusive in portrait.
In Australia the top spec Atto3 is $55000 or £29000 equivalent drive away but then gets State Government rebates of $3k to $6k.
The Kia with similar equipment sells for $73k or £39k both ineligible for rebates as over $69k.
The Kia is virtually same price as a Tesla Model Y!
So Kia is not selling well. It is slower by 0.4 seconds 0-100kph has a 30l bigger boot but that ugly C pillar looks tacky. The nearest competitor to the Atto3 in Australia for price is the MG ZS EV which is $5k cheaper (£3k), slower and very dated.
We bought the Atto3 after comparing with Tesla Y too but the Tesla is better but not $23k better!
Atto3 is 3rd best selling EV in Australia behind the Tes 3/Y. No surprise as it is a great package.
Atto3 can tow 750kg in Australia, not sure about the Kia.
I also bought the BYD. You can add to features a blade battery that is far superior to Kia's and all others. Not only is it safer, but it doesn't degrade when you go from 1% to 100% like other EV's do. You can do it as often as you like, so your effective range is greater. While the battery tips the scales, the BYD is not without minor niggles. Some things just don't work on the infotainment side, and the Chinese satnav is absolutely crazy. Taxi drivers take more direct routes. I hope Android Auto arrives soon, but my wife's phone, though paired, hardly ever connects. Mine is fine, so it must not like her brand. We got a $3,000 rebate in Queensland, and another $3,000 is promised for July.
make one of these comparisons with tesla y std range
@@gustavopedrosa81 In Aus? I test drove one. First up, it is about 20 grand dearer than the BYD, so instantly loses on value. Next, it rode too firmly on our poor roads. Aside from that, it had more space and more pep, so it wasn't all bad. Had it been 3 grand dearer than the BYD I would have bought it.
@@gustavopedrosa81 I have both, model Y is heaps bigger and I see as better in any way apart from turning radius. However, the price difference! 78K I paid for MY and 48K (After rebate) for atto3, it is not comparable, BYD is so much more value.
@@gustavopedrosa81 I have both, model Y is heaps bigger and I see as better in any way apart from turning radius. However, the price difference! 78K I paid for MY and 48K (After rebate) for atto3, it is not comparable, BYD is so much more value.
An update. I already got BYD Atto3 and I love it. Wireless Android auto included. Battery of BYD, the infotainment system are much better. I don't regret I changed my electric Kia to BYD atto 3. 👍
The most important feature of an electric car should be its battery. And BYD has a way better LFP battery than the Nira's Lithium-ion. LFP battery are less prone to combustion making it much safer, and can last 5 times longer than Lithium-ion batteries. So if priced the same, the sensible choice should be BYD.
LFP is Lithium-ion, you probably meant to say NMC which is the other Lithium-ion battery chemistry. KIA Niro use NMC which is lighter (more kWh/kg so less weight), more performance but less charging cycles (500 - 2,000 cycles for NMC vs 3,000 - 10,000 cycles for LFP) and as you put it less prone to self-combustion (will still thermal runaway, just much less chance).
In Australia there's a massive price difference with the KIA Niro on similar price to a Model Y ($70,000 AUD) whereas the BYD Atto 3 is $51,500 AUD. This translate to around 9,500 GBP hence the Atto 3 is current 2nd/3rd best selling EV here (last month it beats the Model 3 and only lose out to Model Y but on total 2023 sales it's still behind the Model 3 & Y).
LFP is lower level batteries than lithium ion batteries.
It is heavier and more vulnerable to fire.
@@straightforward352 LFP is Lithium-ion, just different material for cathode than NMC which is another Lithium-ion. LFP is less prone to thermal runway.
@@straightforward352byd will not catch fire just google blade battries by byd lots of info online
We picked up our Atto 3 in September last year and have driven 12,000 km in it. Excellent car (and our driver's binnacle is level... yours looks so wrong from any angle, very strange). We are Veraging over 420km (260miles) per full charge (60kw battery) at 14.8kw/h.
Averaging even.
I don't want to hand over my information to the Chinese. My information is valuable. Always beware of the Communist Party.
How long was the reach during winter?
I can't wait for you both to review the Byd Seal and Han. Gorgeous sedan/ saloon EV.
The BYD is $20,000 cheaper in Aus. BYD has a longer track record of making EVs and make their own batteries. So BYD all the way.
Based on kia UK website equivalent Niro spec to the BYD is somewhere between 40,445 and 43,195, is between 37,000 and 39,000 when you line the specs up - it seems like comparison was on base models in both range (where the BYD still has a better spec)
I will go with BYD, most important for an EV is battery, they're the leader in this field. Plus kia is so much noisier, feel like a piece of plastic trunk.
I’ve driven the Atto 3 for a day and I’m very impressed with the built quality, the ride (more comfortable and better seat position than my EV6). And I prefer the interior over the EV6. The materials feel definitely better and yes after a while the EV6 has finger prints all over the place. The KIA is more spacious though as it is also half a class bigger car.
When switched to the KIA t 19:18 ,it is so noisy in the car, are they using same device to record video?
First time hearing about BYD. Any way to try one of these in the States?
May I ask if this is the UK, New Zealand, or Australia?
i saw from other car review channel and they show byd have some voice control function but non mention here. anyone knows about it?
BYD ATTO 3 is so successful all over the world
Enjoyed this episode. Thanks. One thing struck me... your comment about the comparative price and how it would change your choice if wider. Well, I'm watching this from Australia and I checked the local prices... The Atto 3 Extended Range (60kWh) is $A51K. The Niro S is $A65,300 (GT is $A72,100. Both come with the 64.8kWh battery). At current exchange rates that's £27K for the Atto 3 vs £34,600 for the Niro S...
It should be the local distribution/ dealers making the $$ in UK; BYD factory won’t get it because they decided to do Tesla’s factory direct model.
BYD get $2000 profit for each car they sold, dealer makes 10x that. Poor UK consumers.
@@wzk921109 atto 3 在中国只卖1.5万英镑，特斯拉model y要卖3万英镑
Same here in UAE. Big price difference and half the specs
Thanks guys, I test drove both recently and I really like the niro, but when you look at the base spec the byd has loads more and is pretty equivalent to a higher model of nitro.
Although I can't have the nitro because the door mirrors don't fold on the move.....and I have the drive down narrow lanes every day!
They do on my "old" e-niro 2021 😮 there is a button the door frame for that.
The lady was much more even handed in her approach, the guy spent half an hour confirming his original prejudices. He may be right but his lack of objectivity devalued his conclusion. Neither reviewer emphasized the most important point of all which is the fact that the Blade batteries in the BYD are superior. Superior enough that Tesla are buying them. However the service network of the BYD is not yet well developed and that is a very important minus. The BYD is heavier despite the lighter batteries and the interior noise of the Kia indicates that some of that extra weight is in sound dampening.
The charging point at the front of the KIA is dumb. Front and rear minor bingles are the commonest of minor accidents and it would only take a tiny biff to put the charging point and the Kia out of service altogether. I have driven a BYD but only in China where the local tyres were woeful, I assume that the tyres on the test vehicle were reasonable but no comment was made! The Atto 3 is too expensive, I suspect that this is because BYD will use the BYD Dolphin whose arrival in UK is imminent as the price killer. It has the technical attributes of the Atto 3 but at a price at or less than the MG 4. Incidentally the Atto 3 is much less in Oz than it is in the UK so there is clearly room to move on that front.
My conclusions: they are both good cars, both are over priced, it might be good strategy to wait and see what BYD's overall pricing strategy is when the Dolphin is released.
The presenters are entertaining/engaging, but both perhaps need a bit of time back at school on the technical fundamentals of EV batteries/ charging issues/ control systems. Taking half+ of the video on style/appearances is a bit of a giveaway.
I’ve ordered a BYD on salary sacrifice, they are being very aggressive on pricing, despite being £8k more on list price I got an Atto 3 for the same money as the MG4 Trophy. I was set on the MG4 but octopus closed their order book as they are being let down on deliveries, the Atto was available on 6-8 week delivery
Atto3 is the way to go.
How have you found the car and the Octopus process in general? I'm looking to order the Atto3 via Octopus Salary Sacrifice also
I've had one of the old shape e-Niro since March 2019, one of the first off the boat here in France. It has been a great car to own and faultless during 80,000 km. The problem here is pricing. The Niro EV, along with the Megane e-tech Renault are in the €42K - €48K price ranges, whereas ICE equivalents like the Qashqai, VW T-Roc, Peugeot 3008 are in the low to mid €30K's....Sooner or later EV's have to price match ICE, battery prices are now below $100/kWh and production volumes are rising so...no excuse for the extra €10K. If BYD really want to make an impression and disrupt the market they should be pitching against those ICE cars, not the Kia Niro EV which is way too expensive. BYD may be a new brand to Europeeans but check out some videos of them being used as taxis in China....they make their own batteries, the blade and some of these things have already clocked up over half a million km.
Trouble is we dont all want these huge things with big tyres either?
I wouldn't describe a Kia e-Niro or Niro Electric as huge. It's about the same size as a 3 series BMW at most (albeit hatch body style and slightly taller). If you want a smaller version of the same thing the Kona is what you're after, same underpinnings and slightly smaller - that's down in Golf territory.
When do you expect that you need to replace the battery?
I love my Niro. When I got it the BYD wasn’t available in Australia. But now I seem to see more BYD on the road than Niro.
BYD Atto 3 is fantastic!
Second best selling EV in Australia!
Why the noise in Niro is so louder than in ATTO 3? Different recorder?
The BYD sound so much quieter than the Niro during your test drive. The Niro has so much wind and tyre noise. Perhaps the BYC has better noise insulation and soft furnishings.
The audio is all over the place - echoes, mismatched levels etc. I wouldn’t trust this video to compare noise levels.
Spec says byd has heat pump standard but optional on the Kia, how much difference will that make? I believe that should mitigate the range loss in cold weather and could level the difference in colder months?
man... Atto 3 cost $50K and Niro EV GT cost $78K cost even more than Model Y $73K in Australia today. Atto 3 got better values and affordable than Niro EV. Model Y bigger and faster and longer than Niro and even cheaper. Not a favorable choice to buy for Niro EV tbh. I will be happy if Niro EV down to $60k little cheaper than Model 3.
Is the Niro on a dedicated platform yet?
The Atto's interior looks like the flourishes and bits PC makers added to PCs when the first iMacs came out.
The Atto 3 interior is my absolute fav thing!
I’ve had my Atto3 for 6 months now and can’t fault it !
👍
Is the Niro available with AWD.......If not, It's a no go..........And the front bumper charge plug is a second no go...........Paul
I drove that Atto BV23BYD at Fully Charged Live North, they said the wonky driver display was a fault and the delivered cars would be fine. I was impressed, but even more by the Dolphin - looking forward to what price it comes out at.
BYD SEAL is the big guy
@@detan593 That's the one I will trade for my ATTO (Yuan Plus)
Unlike other bigger TH-cam channels you are actually reviewing cars...... most reviews in you are now just ads... good work keep it up
You can tow with the BYD. Here in NZ we can fit a tow bar and pull 750kg.
Exactly the same with the KIA
If the headrest is pushing your head forward, slightly recline your seat. If the screen is too reflective, close the shade.
It's interesting that the prices are so similar in Britain. In Australia, the BYD, model for model, is a good A$10-15,000 (£5,000 - 7,500) cheaper than the Kia. From what you've said - that if the BYD were 3 grand cheaper than the Kia it would be more tempting - I suspect that would be enough to tip the scales in the BYD's favour.
the prices they have, it is almost prohibitive, and if paying so much - why not just buying Teslas...
Probably free trade agreement with China vs. not with South Korea??
@@gregb1599 No, we've had an FTA with South Korea since 2014.
@@i-etranger in UK Atto3 lower spec is £33k and have similar extras like Tesla 3 RWD with BYD battery is £43k. £10k difference or £300 per month is not to be ignored. Do you think?
Got EV6 GT-Line AWD and basic trim Niro EV.
It (also) might be that I'm nearly 2m tall, but out of two I rather grab Niro for a trip - simple do it all car.
I have a slight preference for the exterior looks of the BYD, but everything after that I solidly prefer the KIA.
Great review, thank you. I'd reach the same conclusions I think. The door handles on the BYD look like they were left overs from some Star Wars toys and the exterior, to me is anonymous blobish. 'Smoke on the water' though - was ingenious, entertaining and a class performance.
The BYD interior door handles are far better than traditional handles, especially long nail friendly for lady drivers and pax
I trust the largest EV maker in the world who sold more than 2 millions EV in the first 3 quarters of 2023, plus being the world 2nd largest EV battery manufacturer in the world, which is BYD.
The road noise and echo in the Kia was considerable compared the BYD's silent running.
What about the battery in the Kia, does it match the market leading BYD blade battery pack?
The Atto 3 can tow its rated at 750kgs in Australia. The kia E-niro has no sunroof, No LFP battery and those hideous black side panels looks terrible on the Niro. The BYD Atto 3 offers more for the price.
The KIA is just bog ugly full stop, the BYD looks more aerodynamic and as for that depressing black interior on the KIA with loads of piano black that already looks dated, no thankyou glad I bought the BYD.
I agree Peter, no mention of the LFP battery in this video or the panoramic sunroof. The Kia Nero ,with the sunroof starts at 42k in the UK. I've had my atto3 a month and it's superb. Yes a little pricey but it's still worth it.
@@millsy3224 A black interior in a sunny climate is a disadvantage which is not a problem in the UK
Agreed, those C pillar side panels are hideous. The previous gen Niro was nicer looking.
Byd has the best battery on the planet, every byd has a heat pump standard, every byd has 8 in 1 drivetrain standard. It’s a no brainer
You forgot to mention battery size and range..... ?
I would go for the atto3 any day
There isn't any mention of the Blade battery, Lithium Iron Phosphate. Doesn't catch on fire onlly heating to 30-60 degress when penitrated, can fast charge charge to 100% without damage, longer chargeable life cycle compared to Cobalt batteries as in the Niro. In NZ and Australia Atto 3 is much cheaper so is more popular and a easier decision.
There are multiple videos of the blade based attos exploding
@@akeshshi9137 But are they proven?
@@aussieideasman8498 Multiple new models catching fire on the publics streets of China shared amongst people on weibo. Do a quick search for it. It's not just one incident.
@@akeshshi9137 All falsified none proven. Scientifically proven not to heat above 60 degrees.
@@akeshshi9137 Look at you trying to convince people the safest car battery is bad. Even non blade BYD does not burn at a higher rate than other EV`s and that again is just a fraction of ICE fire which are facts that can be verified by official records not your trust me "facts".
The propaganda about BYD burning was popularized by a racist south African colonialist calling him self serpentza (captain apartheid) which makes his living catering to western supremacists with the most outrageous racist trope videos and you reveal your self not as a car battery expert, but a dogmatic ideologue propagandist which clearly can not be trusted on anything Chinese anymore than Colin Powell when it comes to Iraq.
Does the Atto 3 have an app to check state of charge, find your car, control climate control etc with your mobile phone? I prefer MG ZS with iSMART phone app. Big plus!
Apart from find my car, yes, the app has all the features you're asking for
ATTO 3 IS WAY TOO GOD.. I HAVE BEEN USING THIS FOR LASR 5 MONTHS.......I LOVE IT......
Totally agree love the quirky styling inside from the byd. The flappy paddles are a must have to give the user that something extra and feel more control in the car.
Just ordered the Atto 3 as my next Motability car. The interior is just whacky but also practical, which I found really appealing.
The gear selector looking like an Airbus throttle sang to the aviation geek in me!
Reviews like this were really helpful, particularly as I'd considered the Niro (my father-in-law has one).
19:15 notice the change in sound reverberations. The flowing cabin shapes, ribbed console and squidgy materials has a clear purpose and there’s a HUGE difference.
The instrument panel is not level, is it possible that the road the car is parked on is uneven
In the UK, Kia has an extensive dealer network, BYD has just four showrooms, so not expecting great back-up if any problems occur.
what happens in Australia？ Nobody's worried about this.
I test drove the BYD Atto 3 at Fully Charged show. I currently own an E Niro 4+. The difference changes when you head to the top of the range, where the BYD is still under that magic 40K to save on the incoming VEL. Also the LFP battery means 100% charge all the time on the BYD. I love my Kioa and think the new one is amazing, but I love my toys and gadgets, so difficult to choose with the 40K limit!
>> Also the LFP battery means 100% charge all the time on the BYD.
In Australia the Kia is 67k AUD while the BYD is 48k
Strange how Kia charges so much here that they won’t sell (treating it as a compliance car no doubt) while BYD charges so much over there.
lol, i'd take the atto3 even if they were priced same! atto3 is a better ev at a cheaper price, the choice is no brainer.
atto3 is about 55k drive away. 52k after rebates?..
Probably free trade agreement difference
@@i-etranger might be a state to state thing. I’m talking about the standard range version with ACT prices
@@i-etranger might be a state to state thing. I’m talking about the standard range version with ACT prices for my reference, and that is 48k
Not sure if I dozed off, but there didnt seem to be a single mention of the respective ranges, charging speeds, safety scores, storage space in litres, sound system, rear legroom, features like heated seats/wheel/parking assist/lanekeeping assist etc., service availability, basically anything you need to actually compare the vehicles as a consumer.
Normally enjoy these videos, and the information but this was poor in terms of the quality of information.
In NZ the atto 3 is much cheaper then the kia and it can tow (750kg), so it depends where you live as to which one wins. Happy Atto owner.
在中国niro的价格是atto 3的两倍，但niro的销量几乎是0
Can’t wait for the hot hatches to enter the market another huge SUV. Bring on that MG roadster too. Looking forward to the next gen new MINI electric, the retro Renault 5 turbo, the Electric Alpine, and the Electric 911.
Why was the camera quality so poor in this video. I think I’d have the Atto 3 because it’s more practical
Has the Atto 3 cabin heater issues been fixed? We had a loaner back in November, and it was incapable of heating the cabin over a 55 km (35 miles or so) trip. At first I wrote it off as a defective heater, but several Danish reviewers reported the same issue.
Can you do an episode on the comparison of the *Tesla Model 3* and the *BYD Seal*
That would be a very interesting episode.
but the back of the Kia reminds me of a gen 3 Ford Focus
Loved the long shots of 2 pratts sitting in a car rabbiting on. Mind u, it does save a lot of time filing the actual car.
I thought the byd was going to have a solar roof?
I can't wait for the new Kona to come out in the UK.
The Kia Niro EV heater bar is back to front. It's so much easier to use as a passenger than as the driver because, it seems like it's for a left hand drive car; all the quick settings are way over on the left hand side, and it's a stretch for the driver to use.
Styling alone, the NiroEV wins here for me. It’s deffo much cooler than BYD with “build your dreams” written on the back. What’s that all about?
Chinese companies can’t do English translations to save their life. They absolutely do a horrid job with English names
🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the eyes of Chinese people, it is not very strange to put a string of English on the back of the car as a decoration, because most people can't understand it. But to the British, it looks like free advertising.
22:30 Towing. Absolutely. That's one thing which I want when I replace my Leaf. No towing option rules out the Atto 3 for me. I'd like a bit more than the 750Kg limit which the Niro offers.
The noise in kia most overwhelms that guy's voice. Apparently byd offers a more comfortable ride.
Byd❤❤❤
Lol. I sat in one the other day and immediately spotted the same thing with driver's instrument display. "It's crooked" 😂😂
That new Xpeng P7 look good
I have a Mini Ev, it’s like that too, the centre display is off to one side. When I got the car, I literally gone to a Mini show room to see if the others are the same and it is🤯
MINI has a display right in front of you. Unless your driving the brand new generation that’s not out yet and your not.
I enjoy a good argument. Thank you.
Pricing is a funny thing. Here in Oz the top spec Atto 3 is AU$20k less than the equivalent Niro, and no Australian Niro (or EV6) gets a heat pump. The Niro's weight saving comes from its use of NMC batteries. I would much rather take the weight and slight range penalty and have the much safer LFP option.
Atto 3 is very value for money especially in Asia.
Good comparison. but no towing (small trailer) is a deal breaker. Plus atto3 is way too much money for what it is. Niro is ok but value for money and a really great drive and even tows is why i ordered the MG4
BYD is approved for towing 750kg in Asian/Oceanic regions
You've got it completely wrong guys. I'm surprised.
I have Kia EV and love it but I'll get BYD Atto3 because :
1.Dedicated EV platform
2. LFP blade battery pack , the safest battery so far used by Tesla as well. You can charge it daily to 100% with no damage.
3. Price. £10k difference!!! Full spec Niro EV 4 with heat pump is £43k, Atto3 mid spec with similar extras is £36k but now there is a £3k dealer contribution, therefore the price is £33k with lower interest rate.
4. Kia 10k miles service, Atto3 12500 miles.
5. BYD is the largest battery car maker in the world and they sold 6 figures Atto3 cars around the world so far with fantastic reviews.
4. Immediate delivery.
6. Panoramic roof.
This is more than enough for me to get the Atto3. Regards,
ATTO 3 voted EV car of the year under $60k in Australia and NZ in 2023
I think any car review shouldn't waste too much time on appearance.
Because the viewers can see and judge them according to their own taste.
BYD ATTO 3 👍👏💪🇸🇬
It's funny because when I had this very same dilemma four months ago (same cars) it really helped having a difference of 4500€ for ByD, Kia did not discounted a cent, so as you said at the end of the video, it made the choice reaaaaally easier. Really happy with my Byd.
btw, I removed the "Build Your Dreams" logo/motto two days after getting the car with a hair dryer 😂
in Belgium, where I live, the government will FINALLY subsidize EV's up to 40.000€ (5.000€ subsidies). The Atto 3 Design has come down in price to 39.990€ (to get under the 40.000€ mark), while the cheapest Niro EV version is 45.000€. So actually you'll get a price difference of 10.000€ between the cheaper top specked Atto 3 and the base Niro EV. Makes the choice a lot easier in my mind.
A vehicle that heralds the future and a vehicle that clings to the past. And I have an eNiro, but I think it’s close to being replaced with a BYD Dolphin.
The most important thing of a EV is reliablity, the whole Industry chain is in China, not where the charging port is.
When comparing EVs, one of the single most important factors is the battery type. Reviewers need to up their game and learn this and report on it. The NIO uses a LiPo battery and the BYD an LFP battery. The LiPo battery is more energy dense, probably the reason the Kia is lighter. However, the LFP battery has a number of advantages, it's generally considered safer and should last longer and can be fully charged and discharged with not problems, but it costs more.
>> should last longer and can be fully charged and discharged with not problems, but it costs more. >>
a few things to note:
* LFPs can last longer in single-cell studies in lab or stationary energy system (ESS-like) environment (eg, Tesla's PowerWall), but NOT in EVs.
* Fully charging LFP to 100% or discharging to 0% would accelerate battery degradation -- this is settle science and is true for all lithium ion batteries, including LFP.
* In LFP EVs, 100% charging is NECESSARY to estimate accurate range/SOC, which in turn accelerates battery degradation -- ie, shorter lifespan.
* LFPs are generally cheaper because of low-cost raw material used in the cathode materials (Iron and Phosphate), though the price varies greatly between suppliers (eg, LFPs from CATL are cheaper, but also lower quality than BYD"s expensive, higher quality Blade LFP's).
Thanks for fun video, the BYD, You can tow 450kg. In eco mode max 139kw sports 169kw power, you never ‘put your foot down’.
Match apples with apples you need to spend a lot more. The KIA does look good!!!
i've been in the niro as a ride-hailing passenger, had no idea what it was - ride quality was amazing. months later, i saw the atto3 at the byd shop here, i was thinking the japanese and continental cars are so far behind in terms of interiors at the same or slightly higher price point
Please review BYD seal
I may dont use it so often, but I want towing possibility on my car.
Looked at the Kia and went for an MG ZS EV long range which was over 4K cheaper and has similar toys in the top spec.