I wanna be Neo´s friend..... I mean, sure. There´s the possibility of being stabbed Mary poppins style, but still. She´s cute, she´s badass, she´s tiny..... Come on.
@@floatingpizza2233 I still really hope both get redeemed. Emerald seems as bothered as Blake by all the wrong they're doing and only did what she did cause Cinder helped her and because she lived a circumstantially shitty life. Neo is fine with doing wrong but probably for the same reason they were screwed over repeatedly. They were probably manipulated by Cinder and Salem promised they'd be spared and have amazing lives if they did Salem's bidding (as opposed to being rescued of sorts like Emerald and Mercury ) I'm sure Neo and Roman don't believe that though but they'll do whatever is best for them which at this point may be joining the heroes.
Penny = Orange Hair, Green eyes. Torchwick = Orange Hair, Green eyes. If Penny were put in a situation where she found and helped a Neo who is weakened and vulnerable, I feel Neo would see Torchwicks likeliness in Penny. Torchwick was a "fun" person he was really bright and happy (in a twisted/evil way) and Penny is also bright and cheerful (in an innocent way). Neo and Penny would be a really cute dynamic to if roosterteeth would ever let that happen.
@@melvinjones1655 i like to view neo as morally gray, not straight up evil like cinder, it makes neo far more interesting because she has like actual motives behind her actions other than cinders "POWER MWHAHAHAH"
@@alexisleftist778 Yeah. Good motives are the most important if it comes to create villain. God damn it I'm sure that Cinder would be likeable character when she weren't straight evil character who want few things: 1. Power 2. More power 3. Destroy everyone 4. Power
It seems to me like Neo will definitely leave Cinder. She could either make a temporary truce with Ruby to kill Cinder since Ruby’s Silver eyes can hurt Cinder cause of her Grimm arm. Or maybe join Ruby’s group to try and kill her, changing her mind later on and staying in the group/leave.
my memory might be playing tricks on me, but in volume 4 episode 1 (or whatever episode it might be), didn't Salem outright say that it was the maiden powers? I mean, we didn't even know cinder had a Grimm arm until the end of volume 5, and even before that, ruby silver eyes almost killed cinder, and she didn't have her Grimm arm yet.
I’m thinking that at the start of the volume (right after vol 7’s finale) Pietro and possibly Maria die. Penny flys into a rage and charges at the whale entering its mouth. She then uses her maiden powers to obliterate it from the inside.
I think Neo could also bond with Jaune, even after stealing the relic from him and Team JNPR/ALPN, here's why I think so, both Neo and Jaune both lost someone who was close to them and who was there for them (Pyrrha helping Jaune to become a better huntsman and Torchwick being there for Neo when see had nothing0 because of Cinder, so when it comes to stabbing Cinder in the back, Jaune will likely aid her and defeat their common enemy
5:13 I think you're right. I was thinking if Neo has actually killed someone. I mean she was about to stab Yang on the train, but got stopped by Raven. She was about to stab Ruby, but Ruby opened the umbrella on top off the airship making Neo float away. Neo was about to kill Cinder to take revenge on Roman, but Cinder was to strong with har maiden powers to do so. And Neo was about to strike Oscar dressed like Nora, but beside making Ren cry, she wasn't able to do much harm, She did manage to steal the relic in all the chaos.
I like she didn’t kill anyone in the last fight, I think she certainly could have but the fact that she just went in and did her job grabbing the relic and bailing made her seem far more competent
@@Valiguss Yeah now with volume 8 there was (basicly) a 2 on 2 battle between Cinder and Neo vs Penny and Maria (in the Atlesian paladin). Maria did get distracted enough so her semblance of *Preflexes* failed her when she took her eyes of Neo, but she got sideswiped by a massive laser by Penny and smacked into the aircraft. So Neo couldn't kill Maria as well.
Neo has most of the feeling the characters in team of rwby had or has Being alone:Weiss seclusion:Penny Losing someone without a way to save them:Jaune Losing members of the family as a child:ruby and ren Having someone on her side who is brutal:Blake Childhood trauma:Ren and nora Losing pieces(in a metaphora):yang
She ultimately exists to be Penny's main antagonist in the sub plot that revolves around them. Penny and her quest to understand humanity and be a part of it, Cinder who insists that Penny could never be an actual person but will die like one anyway. This is why we're only getting Cinder's backstory now. It runs right alongside Penny's. Personally, I think it's just cool how Cinder is based off Cinderella but they made her into such a twisted villain. Evil Goth Fairy Cinderella is some American McGee's Alice shit and I'm all for it. It also implies that Salem is Cinder's Fairy God Mother which is confirmed by lines like "you will have the power I promised you." So we have this weird violent mashup of Pinocchio and Cinderella that just works and Cinder is obviously a huge part of that. That's her significance to the story of RWBY.
Honestly the only thing Neo could do that would make me unhappy would be... dying. Even if she kills some of the main characters or something, as long it was well done, I would probably be ok since I like her so much. If she dies then I would be sad, which unfortunately I feel it's a very real possibility.
I’ve always wondered- why is Neo mute? It could be as simple as “It’s part of the appeal to her character,” but that feels like a cop out to me. Perhaps she was born mute, or something damaged her vocal cords beyond repair, or maybe she chooses not to speak for some reason. I’m hoping we get some information in Volume 8 relating to Neo, and even more so regarding her muteness. My personal hypothesis is that perhaps she was much more vocal and boisterous as a child, but eventually she decided to stop speaking. Maybe because of a traumatic event of some sort, and since that she took an oath of silence, refusing to speak until she accomplishes whatever her main goal is (not referring to avenging Torchwick or betraying Cinder, or even killing Ruby), the one she is working towards. No idea what that goal would be, or if it’s even possible to achieve. Maybe it’s to have a life that is not controlled by anything but herself. A life of free will and anarchy.
neonbeta101 I’ve always imagined she is like the spartan 3 Olivia? From halo I think was her name but she basically became very traumatized and just wouldn’t talk. She eventually gets into a very stressful situation and does talk
When I see Neo and Roman I'm reminded of what Zangief said in Wreck it Ralph. "Just because you're a badguy that doesn't mean you're a bad guy." Cinder manipulated Neo with the misplaced blame line, she blames Ruby for her current state when she should really be remembering the ancient Tibetan philosophy: don't start none, wont be none. So far both 3rd seasons have been about incredible pain and loss, season 4 was about redemption and I think they will stick with that.
The way I think Neo will be redeemed, at least one way, is if she attacked Ruby, Ruby just defended and evaded her attacks, and her friends attacked Neo. Ok, maybe Ruby attacked too sometimes, but mostly the others. Then, when Neo's aura is completely depleted, Ruby goes over to her, puts away Crescent Rose and tells her that she didn't kill Roman. Ruby tells her friends to put their weapons away, maybe even deactivate her own aura and say something like "If you really think it will help you feel better, then kill me." Neo thinks about it for a moment, reaches for her umbrella, and Ruby tells her friends to stay back, and that she trusts Neo to make the right decision. Then we cut to Tyrian spotting the group in the distance, seeing Ruby deactivate her aura, and he decides to ambush them. As he strikes Ruby's legs so she can't run away, the entire scene shatters like glass and Yang stands behind him, punching him halfway into the ground. As he crawls back out, he sees Neo, who is using her semblance to look like him, except she has a pacifier and a bib. Another idea I had, which sadly doesn't work anymore, is that Oscar summons Jinn while fighting Neo for the relic, intending to use the last question somehow so that Salem can't use the relic for some time. Neo is shocked to see Jinn and stops fighting, at least long enough for Oscar to ask Jinn why Neo is attacking them. Then we'd get a backstory for her, and she'd see that Cinder has recruited her for her own goals, lied to her about Roman's survival and the true reason for his supposed death, and had planned to let the Grimm kill her from the start. And lastly, it'd be kinda interesting to see Ruby and Neo fight one on one, and the two are evenly matched, but then a couple Grimm show up and attack them both. Neo dispatches some of them, then Ruby comes in and kills the rest of them because she's done with her half already. Like, half in terms of numbers. She's killed Ursai, Megoliath and such, whereas Neo had only killed Sabyr and Beowolves. Then Neo realizes that Ruby has been holding back during their fight, and through charades manages to ask Ruby why she did it, to which Ruby responds that she doesn't want to kill people, and that she would've saved Roman if she could have. Ruby then tells Neo that, despite what Roman did, he was still a person, and that she feels as guilty for not being able to save him as she feels about anyone else she couldn't save.
@@angelcorchado1567 Don't know, but I have another idea for how she can at least get away from Salem in my fic, a re-writes AU (Emerald recruited her when she and Tyrian went after who they thought was the Spring Maiden, because Emerald feared that Cinder would leave her behind if she wasn't useful to her any more). This also ties in with my idea for how Roman could come back. My original idea in my fic was that Neo teams up with Arthur after she, Mercury and Hazel attack Ruby's group and get completely bodied, and she and Arthur go through Mantle during the big Grimm attack following the heat going out. During this fight, Ruby accidentally almost kills Arthur, sensing the Seer in his bag and killing it with an explosive bullet originally designed for targets like Megoliath, hence the high damage. Ruby saves Arthur, but her own aura drops as a result, and the Arthur decides to kill Ruby via headshot. He also used his isolation semblance, making it impossible for Ruby to contact her friends and call for backup, and also blocking Raven from coming to her rescue. I have two ideas for how this could work out with Ruby not dying: 1. Ruby uses her expertise on weapons to her advantage, messing with recoil and whatnot to send the revolver into Arthur's groin by tilting the barrel upwards in the last second, and then going for hand to hand combat. 2. Roman shows up and shoots Arthur (or pulls Ruby away) before telling Neo to get them out of there and making his escape together with Ruby. On the way to her friends, Roman tells Ruby that the Griffon that killed him was actually a mimic octopus faunus girl whose skin can naturally produce hard-light-dust, allowing her constructs to take on any color and texture like her skin can, and that she used her teleportation semblance to get him to Mantle, where he has since started a very successful business of his own. He then asks Ruby to keep his survival a secret, and he and Neo disappear into some sideway or back alley, never to be seen again. So yeah, I'm kinda torn between having an aura-less Ruby beat an opponent at full aura just by using her knowledge on weapons, and bringing back Roman. Any advice?
I don’t think the last is realistic Ruby’s fairly weak against human opponents in the first place she isn’t amazing at combating them and neo is way better then she is as a fighter like I’d put rwby as one of the worst main characters at least vs humans like yang, is better, Nora idk if Nora is better but she is a hell of a lot more dangerous, ren is better if they would just get him something other then those pea shooter knives, jaune is.... jaune, Blake is probably even or better then ruby Weiss idk about better but definitely more dangerous except she never wins fights. Ruby is also nowhere near cinder who equals neo (no maiden powers). Neo is in a class far above ruby and it would be a bit ridiculous for ruby to beat her or even Match her. Granted we have seen some fights in volume 8 that were a bit dumb but those have at least some logic to it since preflexes is just a hard neo counter it basically nullifies her entire fighting style, kinda like neo does to yang. If neo can take down all of jnpr then I’d say she could probably take down all of rwby minus Weiss, yang is comparable to Nora in threat yang is better but Nora is stronger Rena no Blake are comparable because Blake has a better semblance though ren is probably more skilled and ruby is fairly solid definitely better then jaune, though Oscar as we have seen is actually pretty good abasing human opponents seeing as he failed better against lionheart then anyone who briefly crossed his path. Throwing Weiss in the mix makes it go from likely to nearly impossible because her crowd control kinda seals the deal for them, the threee of them can’t take neo but throw in thst disruption and likely neo will be ground to a pulp No against grim she, Nora and Weiss are probably the best vs Grimm we have seen time and time again ruby make easy work of otherwise hugely dangerous Grimm only to get clumped easily vs human opponents.
Thinking about Candlewicks story in Pinnochio, it's said that he dies of exhaustion after doing farmwork. Maybe that 'farmwork' could've been doing more missions for Cinder like you said. Maybe Neo might be with for a little while longer, though I can never say for sure if they'd kill her off next volume because of it.
If penny, Neo, winter and Ciel solei, were to make a team. It would be PWNS (pawns) because that’s kind of how they’ve been treated. Ironwood saw both penny and winter as just tools even though he claims them to be in his inner circle he probably sees them as pawns, same with ciel because she was only in the vital festival to be a teammate with penny while she fought everyone as a test run. In Neos case, it’s literally the same, except it’s Neo that saw her and Roman as pawns, and who knows if Roman is alive great. But if he isn’t I would like it if Neo took his last name as a remembrance of him.
Neo deserves some sort of redemption. She has lost everything and is just looking for somewhere to belong. Until proving otherwise, I'm full on Neo joining the crew at some point
I think it's clear that Neo's goal since returning has always been specifically to kill Cinder. While I'm sure she wouldn't pass up a chance to kill Ruby, I think Cinder has always been her top target. After all, if Ruby was her real goal, Neo could easily have asked Lil' Miss Malachite for the same information on Ruby and her party that Cinder asked for, and gone after them without anyone else even knowing. Instead, Neo asked for information on Cinder, and waited to ambush her. When Cinder tries to put the blame for Torchwick's death on Ruby during their fight in volume 6, it does nothing to dissuade Neo from attacking her. Neo obviously knows Ruby was with Torchwick on the airship, but it's clear to me that Neo puts the ultimate responsibility on Cinder for forcing Torchwick to help in her plans. The only thing that gives Neo pause is when Cinder reveals the maiden powers and Neo realizes she can't win. Only at that point is Neo willing to listen to Cinder and team up with her, not because they genuinely have the same goal, but because Neo sees it as the best way to end the current fight and stay close to Cinder until a better opportunity arises to kill her. I don't think anything Cinder did since then has made Neo more likely to kill her; I'm certain it's been Neo's plan all along.
I feel like this theory could come true. It would be nice if we got this but if this does happen I have my own little prediction. So if Neo does become friends with Penny and Cinder goes after her, Penny might be killed by Cinder and maybe Neo could get the winter maiden’s powers and fight Cinder. It would be sad to see Penny go a volume after her return but it would be cool to see another rematch between Cinder and Neo when they both have maiden powers. This more than likely isn’t going to happen but if it somehow does happen I’ll be surprised. What do you guys think?
great video ! really liked it . i have a possible new theory for you ! what if in volume 7 Ruby didn't actually use her silver eyes on cinder when she saw her, what if that was like a ptsd flashback that cinder had and that's why she bailed right away, basically her mind telling her to run, cause it seemed weird how in volume 3 cinder got f***ed by the silver eyes, and in volume 5 even tho emerald stopped ruby from fully activating them they still made cinder drop to her knees in pain and get distracted, so it seemed weird how cinder was able to use her powers and fly out of there well ruby used her eyes on her. As well it makes sense why cinder just ignored ruby in the volume 5 fight, cause she couldn't fight her without her ptsd getting in the way, and it explains why emerald was using illusions of ruby for cinder to destroy, to try and help her fight it. and also on ruby's side shes been struggling with her powers all volume, couldn't use them on the golithe grim and even seemed like Salem did something to ruby when they talked , like the thoughts of her mother dying by Salem's hand made her silver eye all glitchy, just why would they show that if she was gonna use her silver eye powers perfectly fine next time she needed them.
just my thoughts anyways, its more then likely not the case but what if there a chance !!!! probably not, anyways curious on thoughts on this ? if you think it might be worth a theory video that would be fun. otherwise great video pretty !!
Still hoping Neo gets some weird change of heart moment where she goes to the "good" side, heck she would be a kickass huntress. Instead wasting all that talent on petty crime before, and now on helping Cinder. Pretty sure Cinder will get some kind of redemption moment too, showing how her entire life and past was focused around being pushed down by the strong, losing everyone she cared about to the strong, so she started hoarding power herself to become stronger. She can't see a peaceful world and life due to only ever being learned that "Might makes right". That much is already clear now.
Honestly I hope they don't do a redemption arc for Cinder. Those are getting to be a cliche nowadays, and it's much more interesting to see a character who doesn't pretend to have moral qualms and who openly seeks power. Cinder is refreshingly honest. Besides, I believe they're setting up Salem for redemption at the end of the series, and having it happen more than once cheapens it. No, I think Cinder is going to go down, never questioning any of her decisions.
@@Evil0tto The entire show feels like they are setting that kinda thing up though. Villians all get redemption stories as "they had a reason" for why they did what they did, or became who they became. And eventually the gods come back, say "O well Salem you learned your lesson" and then reset the entire timeline so that this time everyone can live a happy safe life. Sure hope they won't do that, but it feels like they would do that.
jefthereaper I could see Salem being redeemed, she’s become a pretty tragic character at this point. Tyrian definitely isn’t getting redeemed, I don’t know what happened to Emerald and Mercury but Mercury at least seems pretty confident in his ways. Emerald could be redeemed I guess. Watts and Hazel, again, seem pretty dedicated to Salem’s cause, if only for revenge, so I don’t see them being redeemed either
The creators have pointed their intentions of Neo not only being a lot more dangerous without Roman and *She'll soon have the fanbase hate her* all I can see her doing to do that is killing a likeable character, which draws it down to Qrow or the general himself, Ironwood
More then likely its killing or wounding a main character. Ruby. Most likely maim those eyes are a good target Yang: killing her could break the group, plus her and neo has fought before Blake: piss off yang I guess. Wiess: breaks Juan Penny: pisses off ruby by killing her and breaks her Ren: kill him which breaks a already conflicted nora. Nora: easy target now. Killing her would break the rest of jpnr Qrow: yeah this would break ruby especially if it leads to a secret about him to her. This is most likely as neo would be essential in getting watts back, infiltrating places, and supporting any of Salems bigger guns and could finish off a huntsman who's aura would be weak. Not to mention doesnt have the best luck
Not going to lie, I like this theory. And I can somewhat see a ship forming between the two. Pretty adorable stuff. Something to add on is maybe Neo will receive some sort of implant Pietro that allows her to communicate.
Amazing video! I would love to see Penny and Neo interact. It'd be interesting since Penny likes to ask questions and Neo is mute (although she probably could answer using her semblance). It would also be nice to see those two team up and fight Cinder. Can't wait until volume 8! Also nice shirt! Is that a Re:Zero shirt?
I think Neo wanted to go after Ruby to direct Cinder’s attention away from herself/to distract Cinder. So that Neo could stab Cinder in the back, literally or figuratively
If torchwick does come back I want it to be at the end of an episode just as someone(for example ruby) is about to be attacked we just hear melodic cudgel's very distinct firing sound and then we hear roman snicker and everything just fades to black
I don’t want neo and penny to be friends rn that could change over time but not now but I do want a happy ending for neo and I don’t want her to switch to the good side like the flick of a light switch she can but do it nice and slow like cobra from fairy Tail or vegta from dragon ball
Endings for fan favourite characters will tend to be difficult so a vague one could work with her fate unknown (left to speculation but probably alive).
MidKnight 17 what if she’s just a reluctant ally, and once she gets revenge, she leaves the group, but peacefully because she has no more problems with them
@@dragonstouch1042 well I cant think of a reason why not she never work directly under Salem and Cinder haven't really been the best partner so I guess as long as its done right I cant really complain. However if that do happen I hope she still an antagonist for when she reaper. If that do happen then I don't want them to bring back Neo as an ally that would help them just because they ask her and she good now because she help out that one time and nothing else no I feel like that would be bad writing
You said Roman's character in the story was transformed into a donkey. Now I'm thinking if Roman was changed into some creature and unable to contact Neo this whole time.
Neo almost killed Yang back in volume 2 and was only not successful because Raven showed up at that exact moment. That's pretty unforgivable if you ask me.
Well you know team rwby could always hide the winter maiden(aka penny) so Salem cant get the relic instead of wasting their time to take it for themselves.The staff will pretty much be locked in the vault.
I think the terrible thing that Neo was supposed to do was then she emotionally hurt Ren with the Nora puppy eyes. Edit: i think it's between that and the nearly stab Oscar thing.
Neo, lost and broken in Mantle. Penny, takes pity on Neo to help her. Neo, finds happiness with her as a friend. Penny, takes Neo with her to fight. Rooster Teeth, "Remember that unforgivable act...?" Neo, pushes Penny over the edge of Atlas and swallowed by whale Grimm, faked it all. Me, laughs twistedly at the irony.
As far as I see it, the only one who I believe could realistically convince Neo to betray Cinder and abandon her quest to kill Ruby is Jaune. Considering they both lost their red-head partners on the exact same night due to the actions of Cinder those two working together to bring down Cinder makes the most sense imo. Also as a throwback, if Neo joined JNR it would be JNNR or Junior which was the team name Jaune came up with in volume 4.
Barely alive is an observation, they where told that fixing her with the creation staff and the byproduct was something never-attempted & the person that was told to fix her was told to “get creative”!!! This means she is either dead or the first to not die with maiden-powers… or anything… (similar to the unseen rise of Salem) What could this mean: a bionic super assemblance with all her old robot powers & human properties? having some of the staff of creations power left in her?… (the ideas are too much for me to all think them all… or she just might be a dead body now… & what did that guy mean by don’t fall?)
I like a lot of this theory. Though I am biased as Neo is one of my favorite characters, I think it would be a possibility that Neo could at least be allied with Penny or at least Neo not wanting to kill the good guys XD
I have one problem with the theory that Romen and Neo come from Brunswick Farm. That is that when they arrive in episode 5 Crow says that in every bed in every house there are bodeis. So if they escaped at least 2 beds wouldn't be occupied. But I still like the theory.
There's someone more fited to befriend with Neo on the base of their dark and troubled past, it's Nora. We still don't know what she's been through to be how she was in Ren's childhood flashback. The only thing we know is she considers herself as an orphan. Also the mute girl and the over-talkative one would be a funny dynamic.
I beg to differ with you about no one going through the isolation like Penny did when she was framed and people called for her to be shut down. Yang went through it when she was framed.
I think Penny's forwardness would remind Neo just enough of Roman to give her a soft spot, but not too much that it would be obvious to her at first and make her uncomfortable. Also, Penny has the least amount of history with Neo and therefore would be the most likely to try and bond with her given her pure nature and wish to help people who are hurting. (Edit): I feel like this would be best done if Neo stabbed Cinder in the back and teamed up with team RWBY due to aligned interest in taking her down, then because the group doesn't trust her, finding a way to keep her captive. Penny would at least take pity and talk to her, breaking down Neo's walls and giving her the emotional support that she's been missing since Roman died.
I'm liking this idea, I can see lots of potential with her and Penny and maybe Ruby as well. I always imagine for Neo to hopefully redeem herself at some point and maybe this could be the start of something new for her ^^ Great video ^^
I think it's possible after all Penny was somewhat able to get Winter to rethink and question somethings Ex her orders from Ironwood even though she is a Soldier of Altas...also the person who talks a lot and the person who doesn't talk at all yeah seem like they can become the best of friends... XD
I also heard (note: HEARD. just a rumour I heard with no official backing) that they want Monty Oum's wife to be her voice actor, but... well... you know, that isn't happening for a while
@@soulstealer5625 Why would she backstab Salem?, she doesn't even know her. Salem and Cinder are different people, salem knows how to keep people onside, all Salem has to do is play nice and be that replacement for Torchwood, show Neo the respect she deserves and have Neo by Salem's side. Neo joining Ruby of all people ain't going to happen and Penny is close to Ruby, so that ain't going to happen either. No Ruby got Roman killed, salem didn't have anything to do with Romans death
I just realized, what if Penny does befriend Neo. Penny dies and her maiden powers go to Neo. Neo becomes the Winter Maiden, completing her fate as an ice cream flavor. Quite a stretch!
I think she would abandon the villains or even defect to the heroes, remember why she wants ruby dead. Revenge for the death of torchwick, now imagine her learning torchwick died to one of her new boss’ pets. She would turn her rage to them, further uniting humanity in some way.
The only way I see this happening is if Neo kills Penny, Penny loses the maiden powers, is brought back, and forgives Neo. There is power in forgiveness, and that might be enough power to sway Neo to the "good" side.
I read from somewhere that Neo does have a voice actress. So maybe if Penny befriends Neo and fulfills her longing of not being alone, then Neo could finally talk.
I don't think roman and neo are family because in the one thing song some of the lyrics are "then a candles flame brought a brand new name" which makes it sound like roman found neo.
Oh Neo you may need someone who could counter act with her fire abilities and I think that her rage is her weakness I mean when in rage she would be stronger but her fight capabilities would become more predictable and sloppy and have tunnel vision and I don’t think that she could actually think straight within that state of mind
I think that the far most quickest way to in rage little miss cinder is with your transformation capabilities and if needed you might want to keep changing your fighting style especially if it comes down to close combat or hand to hand combat but save the close/hand to hand combat as last resort
I don't have much to add here. All valid points and possibilities. One Thing I did wonder is assuming Roman does return. What if Salem or even Cinder as she can perform feats of magic and could do something as simple as Ozpin turning Qrow and raven into birds. Decides to remind Roman that he works for her and turns him into a donkey.
#Phoenix/Night You always come up with interesting angles to approach the future of RWBY felon. I hadn’t even considered the possibility of this interaction yet. This volume Penny has been displaying her underlying humanity as a true strength and not as the weakness Ironwood has been treating it as. I can see that if Neo gets even a hint of Salem’s true intentions toward humanity she will likely bail. She comes across as a bit sadistic from her fighting scenes and musical cues but I don’t think she is so far gone to follow Cinder over a cliff. Penny’s basic humanity might be just the thing to get Neo to at least not trouble the good guys. I’m also wondering now if Penny might in some way help Neo tell her own back story.
I highly doubt Neo and Penny could ever be friends just from the fact that Neo is out for Ruby's blood. I know Penny would do anything to protect the people she loves.
Thinking of other characters who have at least some trait that Neo might find a friend in Jaune since they've both have lost someone to Cinder's machinations Yang could develop a friendly rivalry with her Weiss as their both classy ladies with a sassy streak also if we do see Neo get redeemed and join the main group I hope she retains her chaotic alignment doing things like encouraging Jaune's law-breaking habit
Before V8 started, I actually had the idea that Neo might break away from Cinder and help out Oscar. Maybe even teach him a few things about her fighting style.
All I know for certain is. Volume 8 is gonna open up with all of Atlas' Navy openly engaging Salem's Whimm (Whale+Grimm). Any and all Atlasian aircraft being swarmed by flying Grimm, Atlas ground forces desperately holding Mantle+Atlas, and Ironwood regretting his decision to cut out the best Huntsmen he had at his disposal, aside from the Ace Ops. Because Ruby's Silver Flash would be able to turn the tide of the battle for Atlas, and Ironwood felt so betrayed that he decided to cast out this strategic advantage just because Bumblebee informed Robin about Amity Station.
Neo and Penny would make for an intresting dynamic, but I recently had the idea that Neo will be the surprise final boss of the series and/or the summer maiden
Alternatively (and depressingly), Volume 8 could see Neo's death V1: Roman's introduction V3: Roman's death V6: Neo's reintroduction V8: Am I the only one seeing the pattern?
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I wanna be Neo´s friend..... I mean, sure. There´s the possibility of being stabbed Mary poppins style, but still. She´s cute, she´s badass, she´s tiny..... Come on.
Ooooo I’m 69 like Wooooo
Personally I like Emerald better than Neo.
I would kill to be emeralds friend
@@floatingpizza2233 I still really hope both get redeemed. Emerald seems as bothered as Blake by all the wrong they're doing and only did what she did cause Cinder helped her and because she lived a circumstantially shitty life. Neo is fine with doing wrong but probably for the same reason they were screwed over repeatedly. They were probably manipulated by Cinder and Salem promised they'd be spared and have amazing lives if they did Salem's bidding (as opposed to being rescued of sorts like Emerald and Mercury ) I'm sure Neo and Roman don't believe that though but they'll do whatever is best for them which at this point may be joining the heroes.
@@floatingpizza2233I too would want to be Emerald's friend
Penny = Orange Hair, Green eyes.
Torchwick = Orange Hair, Green eyes.
If Penny were put in a situation where she found and helped a Neo who is weakened and vulnerable, I feel Neo would see Torchwicks likeliness in Penny. Torchwick was a "fun" person he was really bright and happy (in a twisted/evil way) and Penny is also bright and cheerful (in an innocent way). Neo and Penny would be a really cute dynamic to if roosterteeth would ever let that happen.
i hope not she is better when she is bad
Also, roman and penny are from the same fairytale
@@melvinjones1655 i like to view neo as morally gray, not straight up evil like cinder, it makes neo far more interesting because she has like actual motives behind her actions other than cinders "POWER MWHAHAHAH"
@@alexisleftist778 Yeah. Good motives are the most important if it comes to create villain. God damn it I'm sure that Cinder would be likeable character when she weren't straight evil character who want few things:
1. Power
2. More power
3. Destroy everyone
4. Power
@@alexisleftist778 I 100% agree
I am afraid Pietro will die.
Sacrificing to save his daughter
Or old age will get to him and now Penny has no lives left.
@@emeraldsky2823 oh my
Please don't make me cry like that I love our team grandpa.
Pietro best grandpa
Considering they just introduced a giant grimm whale, yeah, I think you're right. Think about the story of Pinocchio.
The friendship we dont need
But the Friendship we deserve
Walter Thomas agreed. I’d love to see that happen.
It seems to me like Neo will definitely leave Cinder. She could either make a temporary truce with Ruby to kill Cinder since Ruby’s Silver eyes can hurt Cinder cause of her Grimm arm.
Or maybe join Ruby’s group to try and kill her, changing her mind later on and staying in the group/leave.
Neo joining penny or the good guys is a terrible move for her character. I really hope this doesn't happen
my memory might be playing tricks on me, but in volume 4 episode 1 (or whatever episode it might be), didn't Salem outright say that it was the maiden powers? I mean, we didn't even know cinder had a Grimm arm until the end of volume 5, and even before that, ruby silver eyes almost killed cinder, and she didn't have her Grimm arm yet.
I would enjoy Neo joining the good guys and would be a great development for her character.
Dylan Tatman no, it’s the way she got the maiden’s power.
@@Neo-op3iz well, when you put it that way, I guess that explains why penny wasn't affected by ruby's silver eyes when she became the maiden
I’m thinking that at the start of the volume (right after vol 7’s finale) Pietro and possibly Maria die. Penny flys into a rage and charges at the whale entering its mouth. She then uses her maiden powers to obliterate it from the inside.
I will be PISSED if Maria dies. Lol
I think Neo could also bond with Jaune, even after stealing the relic from him and Team JNPR/ALPN, here's why I think so, both Neo and Jaune both lost someone who was close to them and who was there for them (Pyrrha helping Jaune to become a better huntsman and Torchwick being there for Neo when see had nothing0 because of Cinder, so when it comes to stabbing Cinder in the back, Jaune will likely aid her and defeat their common enemy
Sam Bradley i...... I love this, but they need more in common I feel.
Aka jauns girlfriend (I'm sorry if I spelled this wrong)
@@adonaimelles2317 that would be delicious to see...
Shipppp
Welcome to the silent knight ship
It's Neo forever destined to be paired with gingers? First, Roman. Now, Penny.
No, the redheads are destined to all die
Pyrrah, roman, penny (possibly even twice), and Adam.
Let's pray for Nora
Bob The Builder OMG NOOOOO
Bob The Builder Nora has Orange hair not red
@@xxx_trinity_xxx2695 Adam and Pyrrah are REDheads. Nora and Penny are gingers.
Okay wait...
"Then a candle flame...brought a brand new name."
That could mean that they met after the Brunswick farm right?
Yeah, I don't see how people think Neo and Roman were at the farm together. Unless a plot hole. RT does like their plot holes.
@@Riley-jf3uh
You really do not see how...I mean look at that girl in the photo...they are quite similar aren't they?
Or maybe it just means that they switched up the name a bit from Brunswick to Torchwick
yea and what if roman original name was branwick but change it into torchwick?
@@ozmasterofmasks5838 THAT'S NOT NEO!
5:13 I think you're right. I was thinking if Neo has actually killed someone.
I mean she was about to stab Yang on the train, but got stopped by Raven.
She was about to stab Ruby, but Ruby opened the umbrella on top off the airship making Neo float away.
Neo was about to kill Cinder to take revenge on Roman, but Cinder was to strong with har maiden powers to do so.
And Neo was about to strike Oscar dressed like Nora, but beside making Ren cry, she wasn't able to do much harm, She did manage to steal the relic in all the chaos.
I like she didn’t kill anyone in the last fight, I think she certainly could have but the fact that she just went in and did her job grabbing the relic and bailing made her seem far more competent
@@Valiguss Yeah now with volume 8 there was (basicly) a 2 on 2 battle between Cinder and Neo vs Penny and Maria (in the Atlesian paladin). Maria did get distracted enough so her semblance of *Preflexes* failed her when she took her eyes of Neo, but she got sideswiped by a massive laser by Penny and smacked into the aircraft. So Neo couldn't kill Maria as well.
Neo has most of the feeling the characters in team of rwby had or has
Being alone:Weiss
seclusion:Penny
Losing someone without a way to save them:Jaune
Losing members of the family as a child:ruby and ren
Having someone on her side who is brutal:Blake
Childhood trauma:Ren and nora
Losing pieces(in a metaphora):yang
Saw Penny and Neo in the title. I’m all in.
"When you don't know where to turn to, and you're sure all hope is gone"
Wow..foreshadowing?
I hope Cinder asks Jinn "What's my relevance to RWBY in the story?"
“You have none”
I would like an answer to this as well
Nah. She’s gonna ask Jinn “when am I going to win another fight?”
And just like Oz asking about Salem
“You can’t.”
She ultimately exists to be Penny's main antagonist in the sub plot that revolves around them. Penny and her quest to understand humanity and be a part of it, Cinder who insists that Penny could never be an actual person but will die like one anyway. This is why we're only getting Cinder's backstory now. It runs right alongside Penny's.
Personally, I think it's just cool how Cinder is based off Cinderella but they made her into such a twisted villain. Evil Goth Fairy Cinderella is some American McGee's Alice shit and I'm all for it. It also implies that Salem is Cinder's Fairy God Mother which is confirmed by lines like "you will have the power I promised you."
So we have this weird violent mashup of Pinocchio and Cinderella that just works and Cinder is obviously a huge part of that. That's her significance to the story of RWBY.
😂😂
Difference between rowan and cinder.
Rowan actually pays her.
It's "Roman" not "Rowan"
Honestly the only thing Neo could do that would make me unhappy would be... dying. Even if she kills some of the main characters or something, as long it was well done, I would probably be ok since I like her so much. If she dies then I would be sad, which unfortunately I feel it's a very real possibility.
I’ve always wondered- why is Neo mute? It could be as simple as “It’s part of the appeal to her character,” but that feels like a cop out to me. Perhaps she was born mute, or something damaged her vocal cords beyond repair, or maybe she chooses not to speak for some reason. I’m hoping we get some information in Volume 8 relating to Neo, and even more so regarding her muteness. My personal hypothesis is that perhaps she was much more vocal and boisterous as a child, but eventually she decided to stop speaking. Maybe because of a traumatic event of some sort, and since that she took an oath of silence, refusing to speak until she accomplishes whatever her main goal is (not referring to avenging Torchwick or betraying Cinder, or even killing Ruby), the one she is working towards. No idea what that goal would be, or if it’s even possible to achieve. Maybe it’s to have a life that is not controlled by anything but herself. A life of free will and anarchy.
neonbeta101 I’ve always imagined she is like the spartan 3 Olivia? From halo I think was her name but she basically became very traumatized and just wouldn’t talk.
She eventually gets into a very stressful situation and does talk
The two villains from Ruby's early days, Roman and Neo, are to this day the best loved villains/antagonist....I miss Roman :(
When I see Neo and Roman I'm reminded of what Zangief said in Wreck it Ralph. "Just because you're a badguy that doesn't mean you're a bad guy." Cinder manipulated Neo with the misplaced blame line, she blames Ruby for her current state when she should really be remembering the ancient Tibetan philosophy: don't start none, wont be none. So far both 3rd seasons have been about incredible pain and loss, season 4 was about redemption and I think they will stick with that.
The way I think Neo will be redeemed, at least one way, is if she attacked Ruby, Ruby just defended and evaded her attacks, and her friends attacked Neo. Ok, maybe Ruby attacked too sometimes, but mostly the others. Then, when Neo's aura is completely depleted, Ruby goes over to her, puts away Crescent Rose and tells her that she didn't kill Roman. Ruby tells her friends to put their weapons away, maybe even deactivate her own aura and say something like "If you really think it will help you feel better, then kill me." Neo thinks about it for a moment, reaches for her umbrella, and Ruby tells her friends to stay back, and that she trusts Neo to make the right decision.
Then we cut to Tyrian spotting the group in the distance, seeing Ruby deactivate her aura, and he decides to ambush them. As he strikes Ruby's legs so she can't run away, the entire scene shatters like glass and Yang stands behind him, punching him halfway into the ground. As he crawls back out, he sees Neo, who is using her semblance to look like him, except she has a pacifier and a bib.
Another idea I had, which sadly doesn't work anymore, is that Oscar summons Jinn while fighting Neo for the relic, intending to use the last question somehow so that Salem can't use the relic for some time. Neo is shocked to see Jinn and stops fighting, at least long enough for Oscar to ask Jinn why Neo is attacking them.
Then we'd get a backstory for her, and she'd see that Cinder has recruited her for her own goals, lied to her about Roman's survival and the true reason for his supposed death, and had planned to let the Grimm kill her from the start.
And lastly, it'd be kinda interesting to see Ruby and Neo fight one on one, and the two are evenly matched, but then a couple Grimm show up and attack them both. Neo dispatches some of them, then Ruby comes in and kills the rest of them because she's done with her half already. Like, half in terms of numbers. She's killed Ursai, Megoliath and such, whereas Neo had only killed Sabyr and Beowolves. Then Neo realizes that Ruby has been holding back during their fight, and through charades manages to ask Ruby why she did it, to which Ruby responds that she doesn't want to kill people, and that she would've saved Roman if she could have. Ruby then tells Neo that, despite what Roman did, he was still a person, and that she feels as guilty for not being able to save him as she feels about anyone else she couldn't save.
Why are these so good?!
@@angelcorchado1567 Don't know, but I have another idea for how she can at least get away from Salem in my fic, a re-writes AU (Emerald recruited her when she and Tyrian went after who they thought was the Spring Maiden, because Emerald feared that Cinder would leave her behind if she wasn't useful to her any more). This also ties in with my idea for how Roman could come back.
My original idea in my fic was that Neo teams up with Arthur after she, Mercury and Hazel attack Ruby's group and get completely bodied, and she and Arthur go through Mantle during the big Grimm attack following the heat going out. During this fight, Ruby accidentally almost kills Arthur, sensing the Seer in his bag and killing it with an explosive bullet originally designed for targets like Megoliath, hence the high damage. Ruby saves Arthur, but her own aura drops as a result, and the Arthur decides to kill Ruby via headshot. He also used his isolation semblance, making it impossible for Ruby to contact her friends and call for backup, and also blocking Raven from coming to her rescue.
I have two ideas for how this could work out with Ruby not dying:
1. Ruby uses her expertise on weapons to her advantage, messing with recoil and whatnot to send the revolver into Arthur's groin by tilting the barrel upwards in the last second, and then going for hand to hand combat.
2. Roman shows up and shoots Arthur (or pulls Ruby away) before telling Neo to get them out of there and making his escape together with Ruby. On the way to her friends, Roman tells Ruby that the Griffon that killed him was actually a mimic octopus faunus girl whose skin can naturally produce hard-light-dust, allowing her constructs to take on any color and texture like her skin can, and that she used her teleportation semblance to get him to Mantle, where he has since started a very successful business of his own. He then asks Ruby to keep his survival a secret, and he and Neo disappear into some sideway or back alley, never to be seen again.
So yeah, I'm kinda torn between having an aura-less Ruby beat an opponent at full aura just by using her knowledge on weapons, and bringing back Roman. Any advice?
@@Kartoffelkamm Ooh, that’s quite an interesting idea for a fic. If you have published it, can I have a link to it?
@@sneefinsnorfintime Sure, and thanks.
I don’t think the last is realistic Ruby’s fairly weak against human opponents in the first place she isn’t amazing at combating them and neo is way better then she is as a fighter like I’d put rwby as one of the worst main characters at least vs humans like yang, is better, Nora idk if Nora is better but she is a hell of a lot more dangerous, ren is better if they would just get him something other then those pea shooter knives, jaune is.... jaune, Blake is probably even or better then ruby Weiss idk about better but definitely more dangerous except she never wins fights. Ruby is also nowhere near cinder who equals neo (no maiden powers). Neo is in a class far above ruby and it would be a bit ridiculous for ruby to beat her or even Match her. Granted we have seen some fights in volume 8 that were a bit dumb but those have at least some logic to it since preflexes is just a hard neo counter it basically nullifies her entire fighting style, kinda like neo does to yang.
If neo can take down all of jnpr then I’d say she could probably take down all of rwby minus Weiss, yang is comparable to Nora in threat yang is better but Nora is stronger Rena no Blake are comparable because Blake has a better semblance though ren is probably more skilled and ruby is fairly solid definitely better then jaune, though Oscar as we have seen is actually pretty good abasing human opponents seeing as he failed better against lionheart then anyone who briefly crossed his path.
Throwing Weiss in the mix makes it go from likely to nearly impossible because her crowd control kinda seals the deal for them, the threee of them can’t take neo but throw in thst disruption and likely neo will be ground to a pulp
No against grim she, Nora and Weiss are probably the best vs Grimm we have seen time and time again ruby make easy work of otherwise hugely dangerous Grimm only to get clumped easily vs human opponents.
When you think of it
Cinder has made A "Jackass" of Neo
Thinking about Candlewicks story in Pinnochio, it's said that he dies of exhaustion after doing farmwork. Maybe that 'farmwork' could've been doing more missions for Cinder like you said.
Maybe Neo might be with for a little while longer, though I can never say for sure if they'd kill her off next volume because of it.
If penny, Neo, winter and Ciel solei, were to make a team. It would be PWNS (pawns) because that’s kind of how they’ve been treated. Ironwood saw both penny and winter as just tools even though he claims them to be in his inner circle he probably sees them as pawns, same with ciel because she was only in the vital festival to be a teammate with penny while she fought everyone as a test run. In Neos case, it’s literally the same, except it’s Neo that saw her and Roman as pawns, and who knows if Roman is alive great. But if he isn’t I would like it if Neo took his last name as a remembrance of him.
She's probably Neo Brunswick...
PWNS would be an awesome team!
A Human Person because all in all Ironwood is using them for his own gains, and workings.
Neo deserves some sort of redemption. She has lost everything and is just looking for somewhere to belong. Until proving otherwise, I'm full on Neo joining the crew at some point
I think it's clear that Neo's goal since returning has always been specifically to kill Cinder. While I'm sure she wouldn't pass up a chance to kill Ruby, I think Cinder has always been her top target. After all, if Ruby was her real goal, Neo could easily have asked Lil' Miss Malachite for the same information on Ruby and her party that Cinder asked for, and gone after them without anyone else even knowing. Instead, Neo asked for information on Cinder, and waited to ambush her. When Cinder tries to put the blame for Torchwick's death on Ruby during their fight in volume 6, it does nothing to dissuade Neo from attacking her. Neo obviously knows Ruby was with Torchwick on the airship, but it's clear to me that Neo puts the ultimate responsibility on Cinder for forcing Torchwick to help in her plans.
The only thing that gives Neo pause is when Cinder reveals the maiden powers and Neo realizes she can't win. Only at that point is Neo willing to listen to Cinder and team up with her, not because they genuinely have the same goal, but because Neo sees it as the best way to end the current fight and stay close to Cinder until a better opportunity arises to kill her. I don't think anything Cinder did since then has made Neo more likely to kill her; I'm certain it's been Neo's plan all along.
I feel like this theory could come true. It would be nice if we got this but if this does happen I have my own little prediction.
So if Neo does become friends with Penny and Cinder goes after her, Penny might be killed by Cinder and maybe Neo could get the winter maiden’s powers and fight Cinder.
It would be sad to see Penny go a volume after her return but it would be cool to see another rematch between Cinder and Neo when they both have maiden powers.
This more than likely isn’t going to happen but if it somehow does happen I’ll be surprised. What do you guys think?
that just sound dumb
Best case, Roman is revealed to be alive.
Cue happy Neo noises.
great video ! really liked it . i have a possible new theory for you !
what if in volume 7 Ruby didn't actually use her silver eyes on cinder when she saw her, what if that was like a ptsd flashback that cinder had and that's why she bailed right away, basically her mind telling her to run, cause it seemed weird how in volume 3 cinder got f***ed by the silver eyes, and in volume 5 even tho emerald stopped ruby from fully activating them they still made cinder drop to her knees in pain and get distracted, so it seemed weird how cinder was able to use her powers and fly out of there well ruby used her eyes on her. As well it makes sense why cinder just ignored ruby in the volume 5 fight, cause she couldn't fight her without her ptsd getting in the way, and it explains why emerald was using illusions of ruby for cinder to destroy, to try and help her fight it. and also on ruby's side shes been struggling with her powers all volume, couldn't use them on the golithe grim and even seemed like Salem did something to ruby when they talked , like the thoughts of her mother dying by Salem's hand made her silver eye all glitchy, just why would they show that if she was gonna use her silver eye powers perfectly fine next time she needed them.
just my thoughts anyways, its more then likely not the case but what if there a chance !!!! probably not, anyways curious on thoughts on this ? if you think it might be worth a theory video that would be fun. otherwise great video pretty !!
Still hoping Neo gets some weird change of heart moment where she goes to the "good" side, heck she would be a kickass huntress.
Instead wasting all that talent on petty crime before, and now on helping Cinder.
Pretty sure Cinder will get some kind of redemption moment too, showing how her entire life and past was focused around being pushed down by the strong, losing everyone she cared about to the strong, so she started hoarding power herself to become stronger.
She can't see a peaceful world and life due to only ever being learned that "Might makes right". That much is already clear now.
Honestly I hope they don't do a redemption arc for Cinder. Those are getting to be a cliche nowadays, and it's much more interesting to see a character who doesn't pretend to have moral qualms and who openly seeks power. Cinder is refreshingly honest. Besides, I believe they're setting up Salem for redemption at the end of the series, and having it happen more than once cheapens it. No, I think Cinder is going to go down, never questioning any of her decisions.
@@Evil0tto The entire show feels like they are setting that kinda thing up though.
Villians all get redemption stories as "they had a reason" for why they did what they did, or became who they became.
And eventually the gods come back, say "O well Salem you learned your lesson"
and then reset the entire timeline so that this time everyone can live a happy safe life.
Sure hope they won't do that, but it feels like they would do that.
jefthereaper I could see Salem being redeemed, she’s become a pretty tragic character at this point. Tyrian definitely isn’t getting redeemed, I don’t know what happened to Emerald and Mercury but Mercury at least seems pretty confident in his ways. Emerald could be redeemed I guess. Watts and Hazel, again, seem pretty dedicated to Salem’s cause, if only for revenge, so I don’t see them being redeemed either
@@samk4480 Yeah Tyrion is likely one of the few to get a perma death at one point.
The creators have pointed their intentions of Neo not only being a lot more dangerous without Roman and *She'll soon have the fanbase hate her*
all I can see her doing to do that is killing a likeable character, which draws it down to Qrow or the general himself, Ironwood
More then likely its killing or wounding a main character.
Ruby. Most likely maim those eyes are a good target
Yang: killing her could break the group, plus her and neo has fought before
Blake: piss off yang I guess.
Wiess: breaks Juan
Penny: pisses off ruby by killing her and breaks her
Ren: kill him which breaks a already conflicted nora.
Nora: easy target now. Killing her would break the rest of jpnr
Qrow: yeah this would break ruby especially if it leads to a secret about him to her. This is most likely as neo would be essential in getting watts back, infiltrating places, and supporting any of Salems bigger guns and could finish off a huntsman who's aura would be weak. Not to mention doesnt have the best luck
You know Penny and Neo would make a very interesting exhibition match. Anyone else?
If this does come to fruition their ship name could be Puppet Show.
Or No Strings! 😎👍
Or ice techno
Pretty creative name 👍
I'd love to see Penny and Neo become besties
and share uncomfortably long hugs
I think the moment RT was referring to about Neo doing something we wouldn't like is when she turned into Nora to emotionally damage Ren
Not going to lie, I like this theory. And I can somewhat see a ship forming between the two. Pretty adorable stuff.
Something to add on is maybe Neo will receive some sort of implant Pietro that allows her to communicate.
Nooooo not the ships. Please have mercy
OMG While I’m not a huge fan of the ship, I AM a fan of Neo getting a way to communicate, even if it’s for a short time.
I love the theory of Neo being injured and being rescued by Penny.
If ciel comes back they should team up. PNC Neo, Penny and Ceil.
Amazing video! I would love to see Penny and Neo interact. It'd be interesting since Penny likes to ask questions and Neo is mute (although she probably could answer using her semblance). It would also be nice to see those two team up and fight Cinder. Can't wait until volume 8!
Also nice shirt! Is that a Re:Zero shirt?
If anyone might have taken the time to learn sign-language, wouldn't it be Penny?
@@morlock2012 True
Just realized that Ren can now communicate with Neo with his unlocked semblance...
This video made me realize I should have included Neo in my vote for best girl. Damn.
*After V8 Ch14*
Ruby: _"Hmmmm...nope!"_
I would love to see Neo as a good friend with Penny. I think they compliment each other nicely.
I think Neo wanted to go after Ruby to direct Cinder’s attention away from herself/to distract Cinder. So that Neo could stab Cinder in the back, literally or figuratively
Already voted. Weiss, Penny, and May were my picks.
If torchwick does come back I want it to be at the end of an episode just as someone(for example ruby) is about to be attacked we just hear melodic cudgel's very distinct firing sound and then we hear roman snicker and everything just fades to black
I did not expect this , but I never knew how much I needed this until now
I don’t want neo and penny to be friends rn that could change over time but not now but I do want a happy ending for neo and I don’t want her to switch to the good side like the flick of a light switch she can but do it nice and slow like cobra from fairy Tail or vegta from dragon ball
Endings for fan favourite characters will tend to be difficult so a vague one could work with her fate unknown (left to speculation but probably alive).
MidKnight 17 what if she’s just a reluctant ally, and once she gets revenge, she leaves the group, but peacefully because she has no more problems with them
@@dragonstouch1042 well I cant think of a reason why not she never work directly under Salem and Cinder haven't really been the best partner so I guess as long as its done right I cant really complain. However if that do happen I hope she still an antagonist for when she reaper. If that do happen then I don't want them to bring back Neo as an ally that would help them just because they ask her and she good now because she help out that one time and nothing else no I feel like that would be bad writing
This aged like a fine milk
You said Roman's character in the story was transformed into a donkey. Now I'm thinking if Roman was changed into some creature and unable to contact Neo this whole time.
Neo almost killed Yang back in volume 2 and was only not successful because Raven showed up at that exact moment. That's pretty unforgivable if you ask me.
How did Raven even know what was happening? Was she spying on Yang?
@@wammygames7627 She must've been
I hope Neo gets the winter maiden power, killing penny, then Pietro reconstructs penny.
But I hope Neo just follows her own path...
Well you know team rwby could always hide the winter maiden(aka penny) so Salem cant get the relic instead of wasting their time to take it for themselves.The staff will pretty much be locked in the vault.
I think the terrible thing that Neo was supposed to do was then she emotionally hurt Ren with the Nora puppy eyes.
Edit: i think it's between that and the nearly stab Oscar thing.
Neo, lost and broken in Mantle.
Penny, takes pity on Neo to help her.
Neo, finds happiness with her as a friend.
Penny, takes Neo with her to fight.
Rooster Teeth, "Remember that unforgivable act...?"
Neo, pushes Penny over the edge of Atlas and swallowed by whale Grimm, faked it all.
Me, laughs twistedly at the irony.
4:55 Neo would have killed Yang back in Volume 2 if Raven did not show up to fight her off. Remember the train?
As far as I see it, the only one who I believe could realistically convince Neo to betray Cinder and abandon her quest to kill Ruby is Jaune. Considering they both lost their red-head partners on the exact same night due to the actions of Cinder those two working together to bring down Cinder makes the most sense imo. Also as a throwback, if Neo joined JNR it would be JNNR or Junior which was the team name Jaune came up with in volume 4.
This makes me kinda laugh
Like what if neo is laying around in this new world and then penny is right near her just dead or barely alive.
Barely alive is an observation, they where told that fixing her with the creation staff and the byproduct was something never-attempted & the person that was told to fix her was told to “get creative”!!!
This means she is either dead or the first to not die with maiden-powers… or anything… (similar to the unseen rise of Salem)
What could this mean: a bionic super assemblance with all her old robot powers & human properties? having some of the staff of creations power left in her?… (the ideas are too much for me to all think them all… or she just might be a dead body now… & what did that guy mean by don’t fall?)
I like a lot of this theory. Though I am biased as Neo is one of my favorite characters, I think it would be a possibility that Neo could at least be allied with Penny or at least Neo not wanting to kill the good guys XD
I have one problem with the theory that Romen and Neo come from Brunswick Farm. That is that when they arrive in episode 5 Crow says that in every bed in every house there are bodeis. So if they escaped at least 2 beds wouldn't be occupied. But I still like the theory.
You really need your own panel at RTX.
Im glad he forgot that she literally almost stabbed yang on the train, but was scared off by raven
There's someone more fited to befriend with Neo on the base of their dark and troubled past, it's Nora. We still don't know what she's been through to be how she was in Ren's childhood flashback. The only thing we know is she considers herself as an orphan. Also the mute girl and the over-talkative one would be a funny dynamic.
Tyrian could fill that part too.
But yeah Nora needs a character arc without Ren being implied.
I beg to differ with you about no one going through the isolation like Penny did when she was framed and people called for her to be shut down. Yang went through it when she was framed.
Possibly. The anima does preside over the unconscious whenever the self is feeling coy (which is all the time.)
I think Penny's forwardness would remind Neo just enough of Roman to give her a soft spot, but not too much that it would be obvious to her at first and make her uncomfortable. Also, Penny has the least amount of history with Neo and therefore would be the most likely to try and bond with her given her pure nature and wish to help people who are hurting.
(Edit): I feel like this would be best done if Neo stabbed Cinder in the back and teamed up with team RWBY due to aligned interest in taking her down, then because the group doesn't trust her, finding a way to keep her captive. Penny would at least take pity and talk to her, breaking down Neo's walls and giving her the emotional support that she's been missing since Roman died.
I'm liking this idea, I can see lots of potential with her and Penny and maybe Ruby as well. I always imagine for Neo to hopefully redeem herself at some point and maybe this could be the start of something new for her ^^ Great video ^^
Imagine Penny with an installed ability to help her understand Neo communicate?
I think it's possible after all Penny was somewhat able to get Winter to rethink and question somethings Ex her orders from Ironwood even though she is a Soldier of Altas...also the person who talks a lot and the person who doesn't talk at all yeah seem like they can become the best of friends... XD
Penny is also a ginger
So She's automatically trust worthy for neo xD
Just... Yes, please. If done right, this would be the ultimate power team.
Both Penny and Neo have an innocence...
i Mean come on its best girl!
Also they need the "Im your enemy but we be best friends in the end" trope!
With Penny joining the main cast, they once again have a complete Team JNPR (Penny instead of Pyrrha).
Why is Neo mute?
Meta-wise? she was a last minute addition and had no voice lines or VA. Monty went with it from there
Canonically? she just is
I also heard (note: HEARD. just a rumour I heard with no official backing) that they want Monty Oum's wife to be her voice actor, but... well... you know, that isn't happening for a while
@@LukeSkywalker-fm1dc actually, she was originally voiced and designed by monty’s wife
The only person Neo is joining next volume is team Salem, the winning team
@Covered_in_Rust Not really, your kind of confused. I'm talking about Neo joining Salem herself, Neo joining the good guys would ruin her character
Doubtful unless she intends to backstab Salem as well. She and Roman didn’t want in on her schemes and they got Roman killed
@@soulstealer5625 Why would she backstab Salem?, she doesn't even know her. Salem and Cinder are different people, salem knows how to keep people onside, all Salem has to do is play nice and be that replacement for Torchwood, show Neo the respect she deserves and have Neo by Salem's side. Neo joining Ruby of all people ain't going to happen and Penny is close to Ruby, so that ain't going to happen either. No Ruby got Roman killed, salem didn't have anything to do with Romans death
Big talk for someone who could be medusa'd.
@@OverlordGrizzaka Tell that to summer rose after I snapped her neck in two, I'm sure she can hear you from her grave. What too soon?😀
I just realized, what if Penny does befriend Neo. Penny dies and her maiden powers go to Neo. Neo becomes the Winter Maiden, completing her fate as an ice cream flavor.
Quite a stretch!
I think she would abandon the villains or even defect to the heroes, remember why she wants ruby dead. Revenge for the death of torchwick, now imagine her learning torchwick died to one of her new boss’ pets. She would turn her rage to them, further uniting humanity in some way.
That would be interesting to see
The only way I see this happening is if Neo kills Penny, Penny loses the maiden powers, is brought back, and forgives Neo. There is power in forgiveness, and that might be enough power to sway Neo to the "good" side.
I read from somewhere that Neo does have a voice actress. So maybe if Penny befriends Neo and fulfills her longing of not being alone, then Neo could finally talk.
Jasmine Johnson She does for like small gasps, Neo is mute
FrostyObama not if that she overcome of whatever reason that she became mute within the first place if that were to happen prior of her being mute
I want to see a team with Neo, Penny, Emerald and Mercury ; the nice solitude team
Candlewick? I've never thought of that before.
I don't think roman and neo are family because in the one thing song some of the lyrics are "then a candles flame brought a brand new name" which makes it sound like roman found neo.
Time in thumbnail is 1137, an old term for elite in old leet speek
Shh... don’t tell Cinder I’m going to destroy her in Volume 8
Oh Neo you may need someone who could counter act with her fire abilities and I think that her rage is her weakness I mean when in rage she would be stronger but her fight capabilities would become more predictable and sloppy and have tunnel vision and I don’t think that she could actually think straight within that state of mind
I think that the far most quickest way to in rage little miss cinder is with your transformation capabilities and if needed you might want to keep changing your fighting style especially if it comes down to close combat or hand to hand combat but save the close/hand to hand combat as last resort
I wonder if that your going to reply back or something
I don't have much to add here. All valid points and possibilities. One Thing I did wonder is assuming Roman does return. What if Salem or even Cinder as she can perform feats of magic and could do something as simple as Ozpin turning Qrow and raven into birds. Decides to remind Roman that he works for her and turns him into a donkey.
John Smith that would be good reference.
#Phoenix/Night You always come up with interesting angles to approach the future of RWBY felon. I hadn’t even considered the possibility of this interaction yet. This volume Penny has been displaying her underlying humanity as a true strength and not as the weakness Ironwood has been treating it as. I can see that if Neo gets even a hint of Salem’s true intentions toward humanity she will likely bail. She comes across as a bit sadistic from her fighting scenes and musical cues but I don’t think she is so far gone to follow Cinder over a cliff. Penny’s basic humanity might be just the thing to get Neo to at least not trouble the good guys. I’m also wondering now if Penny might in some way help Neo tell her own back story.
I would love if those two became friends
Same same
I highly doubt Neo and Penny could ever be friends just from the fact that Neo is out for Ruby's blood. I know Penny would do anything to protect the people she loves.
Thinking of other characters who have at least some trait that Neo might find a friend in
Jaune since they've both have lost someone to Cinder's machinations
Yang could develop a friendly rivalry with her
Weiss as their both classy ladies with a sassy streak
also if we do see Neo get redeemed and join the main group I hope she retains her chaotic alignment doing things like encouraging Jaune's law-breaking habit
Great theory, if Roman Torchwood is still alive, then others may still be alive too.
can absolutely see Neo leaving Cinder, Cinder attacking Neo, and being left for Penny to eventually find..as long as Neo doesnt die!!!!
Before V8 started, I actually had the idea that Neo might break away from Cinder and help out Oscar. Maybe even teach him a few things about her fighting style.
All I know for certain is. Volume 8 is gonna open up with all of Atlas' Navy openly engaging Salem's Whimm (Whale+Grimm). Any and all Atlasian aircraft being swarmed by flying Grimm, Atlas ground forces desperately holding Mantle+Atlas, and Ironwood regretting his decision to cut out the best Huntsmen he had at his disposal, aside from the Ace Ops. Because Ruby's Silver Flash would be able to turn the tide of the battle for Atlas, and Ironwood felt so betrayed that he decided to cast out this strategic advantage just because Bumblebee informed Robin about Amity Station.
If anything I think it’ll be Ren’s semblance of masking and apparently sensing emotions that will help Neo find a way to “speak” .
Well that is a theory
I want this to happen... I WANT IT
Neo and Penny would make for an intresting dynamic, but I recently had the idea that Neo will be the surprise final boss of the series and/or the summer maiden
I now NEED this relationship in my life!!!!!!! Hehe. Great as always x
What if neo turns good and she actually talks for the first time
Alternatively (and depressingly), Volume 8 could see Neo's death
V1: Roman's introduction
V3: Roman's death
V6: Neo's reintroduction
V8: Am I the only one seeing the pattern?
Pls no
Plot twist: it's Shay D. Mann's death.
V8: In a way... sorta-kinda. She'll be back. Why else send all of Team RWBY in the same direction?
If this happens then this would almost be the same as Spike bringing Thorax into the Crystal Empire.
i think the thing about neo doing something bad is when she made herself look like nora and made ren cry
Maybe Neo would talk instead of being teamed with Ruby