Eddie Trunk interviews Philip Anselmo DECEMBER 15, 2016
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- ** FAST FORWARD to 19:51 if you want to get to the DIMEBASH incident, first few minutes are silent, Interview starts @ 4:55 **
Back in January, controversial footage surfaced of Phil Anselmo at a tribute show for late Pantera guitarist Dimebag Darrell, giving a Nazi salute and shouting "White Power." Initially, Anselmo said he was joking and wouldn't be apologizing which lead to some serious heat from people in the metal community.
Anselmo was famously called out by Machine Head's Robb Flynn, with Flynn calling Anselmo a racist. Eventually, Anselmo offered apology after apology before taking a break from the public eye for the better part of the year.
He broke his silence on the matter speaking to Decibel Magazine back in October. At the time, Anselmo said he would likely never discuss the subject again and would limit the amount of interviews he gave. However when Anselmo appeared on today's episode of Eddie Trunk's SiriusXM Volume show Trunk Nation, and Trunk brought up the Dimebash incident to give Phil forum to explain himself, the Pantera frontman couldn't help but address the issue. The part about Dimebash starts about 21 minutes in:
I like how he gets progressively more pissed talking about Robb Flynn.
Robert hahahaha
Doesn't anybody? .. lol
Rob won't ever get my money again.
@Dee Oh my days...Rob Flynn obviously
@@Joe-kt7zp Who’s Rob Flynn?
I very rarely see Phil get bothered by anything, but you can tell those racism accusations really get under his skin. Can't blame him either.
exactly.. the truth hurts. these arent made up accusations, i mean we all love phil. But yeah hes done a lot of racist shit.
Josh Yettou you don't think Dime was racist?! lol that whole Confederate flag guitar thing was a passing phase?
who gives a fuck!?
metal used to mean fuck what ever you wanted to say fuck off to.
it's a shame.
maybe Phil hates a group of people based on race or culture or musical styles.
who knows?
clearly he has African Americans and other ethnicities around him as I have personally witnessed throughout my 25 plus years around these guys. maybe it's an issue of a particular culture and not an entire race.... maybe not! I have personally seen him interact very kindly with"black friends" of mine in the 90s. could it be possible that this was a reaction to today's stifling atmosphere so many proponents of free speech have created recently?
I don't know... nor does anyone else except Phil!
further, who fucking cares!
I cannot think of a time when Sharpton had pissed me off enough to hate him over racist bull shit he's espoused.
people react to things, get angry, bring attention....
no one said you are a dick bag because you dislike racists.
who's to say he's a bad person because he MIGHT dislike one sect of a group more than others?
clearly, as stated above, this isn't a problem with EVERY black person on the planet, or every ANYTHING.
personal choice is vastly less valued than when I was a youth.
what a fucking shame!
but ultimately the bigger, more important point is who fucking cares?!!
it's his choice.
it says zero about how I FEEL about his musical delivery.
I appreciate frank honesty for a change in this insidiously dishonest environment of today's muted and gagged freedoms.
METAL POWER!
Timothy Palmer I don't get why he does it😂I love Phil but all he has to do is not say it there's a video of pantera in Korea and he randomly says white power on stage like what is the point of that😂
It would piss me off too if I was justifying the existence of my people and get called a racist.
FALSE.
Phil's gotta get on the Joe Rogan Experience !!!
Would be the most epic JRE interview of an artist ever
I wanna see him on hotboxin w/ Mike Tyson too. Phil himself would probably enjoy that more than anyone, ha.
Fuck yeah! I'd watch that for sure.
That would be amazing! I love both podcasts.
wow that would be awesome!
The fact that Phil acknowledged his love for The Smiths escalated him 100 & I love when metal gods acknowledge other genres & artists. Thank You Phil
He said the same thing at that university speech when the main topic was drugs - older bands have much more varied influences and you can hear it in his music.
He's been accused of this stuff ever since he shaved his head during vulgar. It was the image alone that people were basing it on. Never mind that song lyrics on Vulgar... No Good (Attack the Radical) seem to express frustration with bad US race relations. He looked like a skin head so they decided he was. 'That guy' has been heckling Phil at live shows over that, his heroine addiction and anything else they could use to get a rise on stage. Most Pantera fans I've known weren't trolls but the band definitely attracted them. Phil, not being a student of new age political correctness, probably snapped back at them and took the bait on camera. I don't know Phil personally but there's a difference between hate and bad taste. I don't see any evidence of the former. Given all the baseless crap he got because of his shaved head, the anti-racist lyrics on his most critically acclaimed album (not to mention thematically daring lyrics from a white dude... They could have avoided the topic altogether like most commercially successful rock bands with a PR agent rather than giving attention to the discussion.) and given that he'd have everything to lose, nothing to gain, and a lot of metal guys just enjoy deviant sarcasm as extreme as their tastes in music, because breaking sacred social protocol can be funny...i just don't see this as anything to get upset about. Even if he is secretly a racist despite his songs, he's somewhat famous but not enough to rally an army of angry white metal fans into a race war. Who really cares if a 90s metal singer makes tasteless jokes at a grimy club that probably smelled like malt liquor and ass. Middle aged suburban voters aren't basing their opinions on the cowriter of Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills. Let it go.
Epic comment.
Well said...
That's a great song.
Even if all this were true, I've still heard zero remorse from him from doing what he did, only excuses. If he truly thought that he just made a mistake and did it in poor taste, just say "I was angry. It was wrong of me. I'm sorry.".
@@volairelarp3773 or maybe people should stop being babies.
All you need to know after this interview is that Scott Ian and Rob Flynn are hypocrites.
phil is the man. hes one of the 3 men that changed my life
slash100588 same here man, Who are the other 2 If i could ask
@@dariusdanovan2256 you and me, buddy
@@coolddp you and buddy changed his life?
@@exelchannel8806 No, Phil, Darius, and me changed his life. DM the man, he will tell you all about it.
@@coolddp Well how do I DM on here, you absolute blow hard?
It feels like you know that Phil is a good man who just can't help but get himself into trouble by not having a filter and not being able to ignore the haters. He's more vulnerable than he lets on. Especially as he's kicked the booze and drugs, he just seems to have love for people and wants to spread his wealth of experience and success to others.
Yeah, this.
@Jamie DeLorenzo I agree... There is no point trying to please people who hate you and want to take you down.
@Jamie DeLorenzo he apologized but didn't prostrate himself before his detractors or allow himself to be humiliated going overboard kissing the media bosses' asses. He never really backed down and also technically the arm gesture harkens back to the glory if Rome... It was the salute of the Roman legions long before Nazi Germany adopted it to symbolize continuity between the greatness if Rome and 20th century Berlin. People have been brainwashed to accept a very narrow interpretation of the salute, one that ignores the true history and meaning behind. The whole incident was ultimately a stupid druken blunder in Phil's part... But excessive apologizing would only serve to harm his brand and persona that much more.
Yes seems more down to earth Phil f
Cool as hell
I love the way how Phil randomly changed his voice from a drunk homeless guy into Optimus
I need to start listening to this interview when I can't sleep... Phil could have a career in hypnosis.
have done it on a few of his interviews in the past
mylesfan1 I thought that... man don't do it, it doesn't work... ended up drinking whiskey till 4 am by myself
mylesfan1 and asmr
mylesfan1 I put it on every night before I go to sleep!
mylesfan1 Imagine him blind drunk. Yawn.
Jesus that throat has had some damage done to it. He sounds like he swallowed the whole cigarette factory.
PHIL - “Ya livin’ in California, you’re gonna compare that to the south!!! You’re outta ya fuckin’ mind!!!” Lol
i love it LMAO
Don't underestimate the Kid
Your fucking crazy if you do, and i am the kid🤘🏻
@@theheadbanger6685 lol, love that interview
I don't give a fuck what he does, I'll always love Phil Anselmo.
Phil’s boxing knowledge on point. I wouldn’t mess with him lol
for real!! XD
\m/
I have seen Phil throw punches. I wouldn't wanna be at the end of one
Scared Alot of folks whilst touring. NOBODY wanted that smoke.
Also real quick. Haha
I've won many bets based on the kids past analytics on fights. Go fourth lol
He has encyclopedic knowledge of the sweet science
Phil is the man, on and off the stage!! Love the man, love his art!!!
phil's voice is rlly relaxing, he should do an ASMR
i find it terribly annoying
I think he should probably me a Metal vocalist, with that voice of his.
Nicolas Vincent how about a mainstream pop artist...
James Matharu No. Metal.
Nah i think he can start a trend in metal with a voice like that
Why does Phil always talk like he's cutting a wrestling promo?
because of his italian blood, maybe
Phil is a very boisterous, passionate, direct person which unfortunately has gotten him into a whole lot of trouble
@@ErebosTalia Vino Bianco!
Cause hes a poser like a wrestler.fake.
@@briandarby5558
So what would you call someone like yourself who spends his days watches a fake wrestler speak?
Holy shit Phil can be an intimidating dude still a living legend he owns everything he does \m/
Phil could beat the brakes off Ol Rob.
I quit listening to Machine Head over the SJW crap
Ron B I’m out of the loop. What happened??
@@alonzotanner1226 Rob Flynn called Phil racist, even made a video about it. This video pretty much cleared up that Phil can't be whatever the SJWs think he is.
In the words of Phil, Rob wanted to "ride the coattails"
CamRebires oh wow. Anyway, I never was a fan of Machine Head anyway.
@@alonzotanner1226 Me neither, I like our taste
I’m a heavy metal fan and a hip hop fan , its what I grew up on . I wonder what it would be like to have Phil anselmo and DMX in a room together to have an in dept conversation .
I don't know if they'd have that many things in common to even have some sort of foundation in regards to starting a conversation, but that would be interesting as hell lol (I still jam some og DMX from time to time but mostly just pure Death Metal and Black Metal type of bands) and all the classic Metal bands as well of course
Anselmo is an absolute legend.
I'm from Detroit and I actually, did a phone interview with Phil, during his kronk gym crusade and fundraiser show. He's absoulety right about, his involvement as well, as his financial contribution
He attended Emmanuel's funeral here in Detroit, along with the who's who of boxing greats.
I will give him credit where credit is due, regarding that 🏆.
He is repping Negative Approach too Phil knows his DETROIT HARDCORE
Phil needs to start a podcast ASAP
I love this dude. I can watch him all day. Pantheon of metal right here
Yep. I'm not even a super huge Fan of his music, but i always loved this guy from the Moment i heard him speak for the 1st time! I probably wouldn't even care if i wouldn't agree with what he says most of the time.
Mr Phil Anselmo could read from the stupid ny times ffs and i would listen!
Phil has a wide taste in music, indubitably, he is " a real diamond in the rough".
For all those who just look at his image and face and voice, that can be easily labeled as a rude man, always drunk, brain smashed from years of drug abuse and so on, in his speech at 8:25 he mentioned about Chelsea Wolfe (I could not believe that): Wolfe keep a natural legacy with The Cure, Joy Division, The Smiths sound's profile.
Therefore, being a in fan of them, I always felt like an outsider once i started appreciating Pantera...today I just learn something beautiful about Phil Anselmo and my self as well, there are no boundaries in taste,
there are no boundaries in feelings, listen to whatever genre helps you feel alive and use these emotions to build something great within yourself.
Yes...agree. that reminds me of Mike Patton who I love . Everyone just writes him off as the singer of the song ' Epic', yet for those who listen to him in his widespread career catalog, he sings Italian operas and does so many different things. He is in like 6 other bands AND he is the alien voice over that you hear throughout the movie I am Legend.
Go figure!😉
You hit the nail in the head. Anselmo is very intriguing , powerful and sensitive. Not many cats like this out there. On the acting side Mickey Rourke character reminds me ofAnselmo. Love them both.
Wonder if Phil digs JD. Closer is some heavy shit man
Turn the speed to 1.25 and thank me later.
Holy shit!!! Waaaaay more listenable. Thanks.
Try .5 and thank me later
haha thx
Are you a wizard?!
I wouldn't have been able to watch it otherwise. Phil is so damn slow! Respect to him, though.
Love Phil's Negative Approach shirt. Can't tell no one!
Fuck yes Philip!! You are 100% correct!! Machine Head is fucking garbage! I love SOD but he is so right, if it came out today people would flip their shit
In fact, even State of Euphoria would be attacked for "supporting rape", as would David Lynch if he wasn't already a set director and completely untouchable by the freaks and idiots that surround the media sources now. Don't you fuckin' look at me! Scott Ian lost me completely, and there was not much to lose anyway as they have ALWAYS sucked! Using racial cliche's, the "rap attack" thing in 89', to spread their endless diatribe about. . . what the fuck were they talking about? What was their point? Oh yes, I recall now. It was making MONEY! Fucking filth pigs!
Machine Head aren't as good as Pantera. Robb Flynn was correct, Phil is a racist, but he is so drug fucked that you can't really take a word he's saying seriously. People want to talk around the issue all of the time because they love Pantera and worship Phil, but you're being a pussy if you can't accept the truth.
You mean... accept YOUR version of the truth?
Walk on home boy
It's not my problem you can't accept the obvious. Phil Anselmo is just a man, not a god, your refusal to call a spade a spade shows just how far people will go to worship this guy. Pantera is one of my favourite bands ever, but I'm not going to accept people being weak around the goddamn obvious.
billhicks8 you are a fucking punk man... just calling a spade a spade
Rob Flynn can walk on home boy!
47:48 I thought it froze.
cameronismadd lol
😂😂
Same here lol i was like wtf
Phil's not a racist....trust me. Unfortunately, I grew up around REAL racists.
Racism is not an on/off switch. It's a spectrum. Someone is always more or less racist than someone else. So Phil is less racist than David Duke but more racist than MLK. IMO he's closer to Duke than to King.
@@jjochems
Try this Jason. Thanks for the civil discussion. Theres a lot of race discussion in the first 45 minutes
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@@integrity101 Your explanations make sense but just don't convince me at the end of the day. To me it just makes more sense that he struggles with inner racist tendencies. Which considering where he grew up, would be completely understandable. I know nowadays it's trendy to grasp at straws for a reason to call someone a racist. I try to not follow that trend. If my instincts are right and those feelings are there, he clearly tries to reject them. So IMO he's not a bad person from what I can see. But you seem to be more familiar with him, so I accept that I could be wrong.
@@jjochems typical liberal nonsense what you just said.
You are saying Phil is a racist and you don't know him.
Only liberals do that.
@@phillynott2459 Ummm.... if you say racist things you are a racist. That's typically how it works. It's pretty simple really. It doesn't make him a neo-nazi or anything.
Phil is indeed an open book. A NOLA boy through and through. Great interview!
Phils the King of metal
Nowadays the people throw around the word nazi and racist all the time without proof. Phil is the man. Love this fucking guy. It's giving me chills cause he's very sincere and I know his history. I've been a fan for years and met him twice. He reminds me of my uncle Kenny. Same deep voice and mannerisms.
He is Sicilian. They can be mobsters, but not Nazis lol
@@bojangles6444erm, I've got some news for you
Phil looks like a big, giant beast but he's just a teddybear, I love him
that’s gay as fuck but okay
LOL he’s a washed up, brain dead, fake tough guy.
What an amazing interview! Phil and Eddie explain wtf is wrong with society nowadays to a T! This truly gives me positive vibes!
Love ya Phil! Such a f**King legend! To all the haters and to Robert! Walk on home boy! 🤘
Audio starts at 4:55
Phil's is as legit as it gets.
they barely talked about Pantera and this is great. Phil is so much more than Pantera. he's a very complex musician and interesting person. must he horrible people been talking about and remembering you for just one period of your life FOR 15 DAMN YEARS.
Whenever I'm listening to Phil's interviews I have to take bass down
19:58 Phil’s reaction 😂
😂😂😂
🤣🤣
I love Phil! So glad he's from New Orleans like I am... Silly, but oh well.
Hit him up then
I love ya Phil ! Without your music and words , i cant say id still be here . I was a whipping boy unjust through 6 to 8th grade . Vulgar Display made me stand up for myself . And i realized i WAS something more than people treated me as !!! And since then .... haha ! .... Ill just say thank you !!!!
Man lam a thirty seven years old diehard Pantera fan for over twenty years they changed my life as well glad to see there are still so Pantera out there
lol how did we get onto Boxing and Wilma
How fucking deep is his voice? He's gone nearly 2 octaves below his regular voice multiple times
One of my favorite interviews with Phil, I've watched it 3 times probly in the last week.
RACIST! 😂
I love Phil so much ❤
I want to give him the biggest hug.
"I LOVED Wilma... And I speak in past tense because she's dead!"
LMAO
That was pretty funny 🤣
Phil served SJWs hard :D Love him
He reminds me of me. Speaks the mind but people don't care to listen to what one is saying. Not in their time schedule. Love ya Phil!
we need celebrity boxing phil anselmo vrs rob flynn
A couple moments I had thought Phil was gonna slap Trunk
Good interview. Could just edit out the breaks though lol
All of the testosterone on the left side of the screen
i met emanuel steward on a flight to australia, i was 12, he actually carried photos of himself and it had listed in the corner of the photo all the fighters he trained...very nice man.. R.I.P.
Phil sounds like a testosterone filled robot, especially the way he said "jaws" and "Ian". As someone in the comments said that I liked, his voice is basically in Drop C 😳😳😳. #Awesome
Has this man narrated an audio book yet, god I need that
Love Phil, he's always seems so genuine & hope to meet him in person one day on a gig. Have loved Pantera since i was a teenager & not for 1 second i thought it was a racist band.
I suggest that people do more research before making such awful claims. Such claims not only hurt the man himself ,but most importantly the fans and all those kids that start up with metal nowdays. It did feel rotten when i heard about these claims; it's like someone is crushing your worldview. Be more loving everyone & take care of yourselves.
I really don't think Phil is racist. Bottom line.
Where is your proof that he isn’t..film and history say different. A court of law would not agree with you.
Matt Sullivan lol what
Matt Sullivan ugh. I wish you were a guitar player for a band called damage plan.
@@dedo7326 what a horrible fucking thing to say. I didn’t make this asshole ‘white power’ his career to shit.
@@crimediveinvestigates2222 oh poor baby did I hurt your sensitive feelings? Go kick a stool from under your feet if you think he is racist you are insane.
Fucking Phil putting these tears in my eyes. The realest man in metal
Phil seems like a pretty good dude. He’s just a little crazy. Aren’t we all?
Eddie has gotten very I, me, mine, in recent years, but he was a fucking marine for this interview. You can feel the pure rage coming off of Phil and Eddie just keeps right on truckin.
Yeah, Eddie normally would have made everything about him. "I did this" and "I saw them" etc.
lmao so true, the only way Rob Flynn makes headlines is talking about Pantera, pathetic
Hell yeah Phil!!!!! Speaks the TRUTH!!!!
Way to go, Phil. I'm sad that I haven't seen this til now but I agree in every way.
Phil Anselmo Vs. New Jack
I love interviews with Phil! I remember him years ago calling Metallica false Metal years ago. He's always got something interesting to say. We didn't have bitter resentment towards any race back then. Of course we didn't understand very well what others went through. I was never taught or even felt any hate toward anyone. It's the idea that I was born "white" and am told that I am "naturally racist" that makes me feel that I'm unfairly misrepresented. Without ever getting to know me or understand what I'm about? You are entitled to think what you want but not to unjustly label me for the sake of incriminating me for things I have never had anything to do with.
Phil’s voice is lower than my fucking gpa
Thanks for posting this!
37:46 Anyone else think Phil might be an Atheism-Is-Unstoppable Fan?
Yup, came back to this video for that part after watching the recent interview with Devon ;)
I don't know, he sounds sincere. Not knowing him personally, I don't think anyone could say whether or not he's a "racist". He is one of, if not the, best heavy metal lead vocalist all time though. Fact.
lol to hear racism on 'walk on home, boy' is some mental gymnastics
His tunning voice is Drop A
He's like an angrier J Mascis.
Phil always speaks like every word is about to be the most compelling word you’ve ever heard.
Phil’s a good guy who’s just said a bunch of stupid shit while under the influence of drugs
Cameron Hawes and alcohol to man jajaja
We live in a country with free speech. He can say whatever the f he wants! And so could you!
It's a good thing he quit doing that stuff because it not only helped him as a person but also as a performer.
Phill's hilarious and not racist. Still, he has to reduce that Irish coffee :D
It's so much easier to Hate than to put the fucking effort into Love (c)
Great words
its also easy to hate if he insults your whole country and thinks its a joke
Phil is the man
I saw Phil doing bong hits , Rockin out hardcore behind the drum kit at a Living Color concert 🤘🏿😎 Getcha Pull 🥃
Thanks Eddie and Phil, I was waiting for this!! good stuff!
when he talks about the kronk gym, he is one hundred percent right. he was very influential in helping out that gym. Phil is Phil, and he's going to speak his mind. I don't believe he's a racist, I think he fucked up, lost some money, but he's going to move forward and be himself
Someone show this to Germany so they dont cancel the pantera shows!
Metal Titan, he is the man!
My Idols 🫡 ever since I saw Drag The Waters on MTV for the first time I never looked back, bought every Pantera album.after that 🤘😆 we were lucky to have a band like Pantera in the 90's,
Edda 🌹♥️🌹
Phil is a really misunderstood guy his Pantera days he was a fuckin vocal beast for 51 he still sounds not half bad hes a talented not fake guy
Wow he is doing incredible now and this was only 6 years ago.
I love that interview❤️
I didn’t get any volume til 19:56
Awesome. Thanks you for the interview. Hails to Phil. FUCKING HOSTILE!!!!!!!!!!
He does not have to defend himself. For get about it.
Robb Flynn is a coward, Phil did a stupid thing but Robb didn't have the balls to go up to his face and confront him about it. Then he went and threw Phil under the bus by making that stupid video denouncing him and talking down to him as if he's some sort of saint.
Love his brutal honesty..Phil kisses Doug Pinnick on the fkn lips and fears no one, hell I didn't even know Pinnick was even gay? Now thinking about him it so obvious. Phil is about as real as they come.
"I HATE ANTIFA!"
- PHA
Don't we all hate ANTIFA they're borderline terrorists
When did he say that? All I know is that superjoint has an amazing anti sjw song
Phil...longtime fan bro! I hate Antifa as well. You’re tha man!
I KNOW PHA is not racist. Ive seen And heard him first hand talk to all races with respect. myself included.. remember Attack the Radical lyrics.... he even has a reminded of that song inked into his skin. Media bullshit. He even stages here that in was a drunken response to Assholes in the crowd he wasnt proud of. But everyone likes to bash on Phil especially the media, happened way too many times in there past. When somebody gets as big in the industry as he is,they just want to beat him down..... respect to Phil. I love the guys brutal honesty.
fucking legand god damnit.
Phill Anselmo is one of my greates heroes! I love him!
5:20 I'm now pregnant, and I'm a 30 year old man
Damn, even Phil isn't immune to SJW bullshit. People that paint the world as racist are a waste of air. My respect for Phil goes up every time I hear him speak.
Well yeah if you go around concerts yelling WHITE PRIIDE while dojng a nazi salute on stage while pissed drunk, people miiiight assume you're racist lmao
The funny part is there's plenty of recordings of Phil going on weird racial rants during pantera days (which dime and vinnie talked about actually, especially vinnie hated that shit and how you never knew what he would say but would be blamed for it in press anyway), but I still dont think he's racist lol he's just confused, he just doesn't seem like it. Idk it's hard to explain. This is why I think people who claim drunkenness gets the realness out of people... nah, it gets rhe dumbness out of them.
On the other hand, if you think people calling him racist for yelling white power and nazi salutes as "SJW bullshit" I wouldn't be surprised if Phil himself would try to slap you up for that himself LMAO
Phil ain’t racist. Believe me I know what a real racist is like