How trams connected Switzerland and Ukraine

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
  • I guess you didn't know, but Ukrainian Vinnytsia has been transporting passengers by ex-Zurich trams for more than 15 years. And in this video we'll talk about how it happened and how it influenced at both cities.
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  • @ЗубенкоМихаилПетрович-э8б
    @ЗубенкоМихаилПетрович-э8б ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Great video! And thank you for covering my homeland! Love from Ukraine! ❤️

  • @JustinJamesJeep
    @JustinJamesJeep ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The economics behind zurichs decision to donate these trams to Vinnytsia is genius. Its like theyve made a trade deal without any legal deal being made. These types of decisions are great for both countries and thier relations.
    Zurich gets a friend and to be more circular with their transit organization while Vinnytsia gets a free upgrade, education for their shops, more transit and a great relationship to help push them forward towards a brighter future.
    Thank you for the great content! (new sub)
    Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 - ❤️ from 🇨🇦

  • @Erintii
    @Erintii ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I lived in Zurich for three years and had no idea. Transit system in Zurich is perfect, whole Switzerland is the example how to design cities. Happy to hear Zurich trams are having second life in Ukraine. I remember those all trains, still in a good shape. All the best for Ukrainian people.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo ปีที่แล้ว

      Then it’ll really blow your mind to learn that even older Zurich trams were given to North Korea, where they operate in Pyongyang!

    • @Erintii
      @Erintii ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tookitogo very interesting fact to know. Thanks.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Erintii FYI, I made a separate comment about it, with a link to a video as a reply.

  • @photosbyernesto9621
    @photosbyernesto9621 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Such a beautiful story! Tinged with sadness, I agree... Slava Ukraini - love from Australia. 😪💔

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep, it touched me very much too. And a little bit pity that this video has got so little views :(

    • @romanshipilov282
      @romanshipilov282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Дякую, Героям
      Слава

    • @СергейМонин-д7с
      @СергейМонин-д7с ปีที่แล้ว

      @@romanshipilov282 хероям в срало

  • @amadeosendiulo2137
    @amadeosendiulo2137 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That's why you build a tram network instead of a Gadgetbahn: it is compatible with tram network in other places!

  • @redhoster
    @redhoster ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you and greetings from Vinnitsa!

  • @tramlink8544
    @tramlink8544 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    im a tram driver in Zürich for one of the newest lines (line 20) and our new Depo is right next to the main railyad in the Limmat. it was strange testing out brand new Tramlink trams while seeing the good old 2000s loaded on wagons in the railyard about to be shipped off to Ukraine

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh, cool! Maybe we could collaborate somehow?

  • @MarynaKononenko-t7w
    @MarynaKononenko-t7w 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m
    From Vinnytsia and I’m been to Zurich a couple of times, it’s very interesting to compare them!
    But thanks, the video was really informative, keep up 🫰🏻

  • @VadymKublii
    @VadymKublii ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Keep a like from Ukraine ❤

  • @annebraun581
    @annebraun581 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Made me emotional 😢❤
    Thanks for the video!
    I can just feel with how much love these trams were repaired before they send them over to Ukraine. I mean the swiss state didn’t have to invest over 3 million, they could have handed them over as they were… but they (politicians in the end I guess) decided to hand them over in superb condition.
    ❤❤

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, this story really touched me too.

  • @liguelxi1610
    @liguelxi1610 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks for the video, Im from Ukraine myself and would like to visit Vinnytsia one day, really beautiful city

  • @cybercat8743
    @cybercat8743 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video! Greetings from Vinnytsia!

  • @alfredogarbanzo2276
    @alfredogarbanzo2276 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video brought me a lot of peace in a difficult time. ❤

  • @aesth55
    @aesth55 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful video. I can see that you put a lot of effort in. Great work man!

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @alainterieur4837
    @alainterieur4837 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    5:22 Wooow, that bike infrastructure looks incredible! This is surely decades more advanced that even the best bike infrastructure we're currently building in Switzerland! Meanwhile we're still stuck at the bike lane stage, and it honestly seems that we'll never get out of it...

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh, yes, that concepts looks very strong. I hope later they will have a chance to complete it.

  • @stanislemovsky5590
    @stanislemovsky5590 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love that our public transports share colors now! Gotta visit Vinnytsia one of these days. Greetings from Zurich! I wish we would be doing more for Ukraine in this cruel time. Stay strong and Slava Ukraini!

  • @Molodchick
    @Molodchick ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was very interesting to know more about history of this trams. I was in Vinnitsya twice and have a pleasure to ride by those trains.
    Thanks to Zurich for the trams and this channel about interesting content and highlights about russian invasion to our Ukraine

  • @jackolantern7342
    @jackolantern7342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another enjoyable, informative video. Keep up the good work!

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Next video is on the way!

  • @KenanTurkiye
    @KenanTurkiye 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love them and I have a folder about them
    🚅🚈🚞🚝🚂🚃🚄
    trains, trams, aren't they all beautiful
    come take a ride! (at folder 2) :))

  • @yesid17
    @yesid17 ปีที่แล้ว

    so wholesome, love it, thank you for sharing! keep up the great work!

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! What topics and countries are the most interesting for you?

    • @yesid17
      @yesid17 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cityforall not sure, i mean never would have thought of a video like this one but it was super interesting!
      That said, I'm Colombian and my mom's family is from Medellín, which has one of the oldest urban gondola systems and also public escalators in some super hilly neighborhoods which i think is cool, their transit has been expanding quickly in recent years so a video on that could be interesting. Might also be cool to see a comparison or showcase of the cities the use urban gondolas i think it's become popular lately
      I lived in near new york city when i was little so transit in that area is always interesting to me, same with transit in texas, since i also lived in the dfw area, and transit in california, which is where i live now
      but i think it's also cool to learn about new places i've really enjoyed your content and learning more about transit in eastern europe, it's not a common perspective so i appreciate you sharing it

  • @RomanSternenko
    @RomanSternenko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Дякую ❤

  • @calendartheatres4437
    @calendartheatres4437 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very beautiful video, very well done! Question: Why are passengers masked? Should this be done for their protection or is it just courtesy?

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. As for the faces, it's primarily from the point of view of respecting people's privacy.

  • @romanshipilov282
    @romanshipilov282 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Дякую Цюриху за такі класні трамваї, і ще за Трам2000, завдяки їм Вінницю називають трамвайною столицею України.

  • @makedonsky1
    @makedonsky1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Привіт з Вінниці!

  • @hiermaniko
    @hiermaniko ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting and well made video. Keep on the good work!

  • @ManunKanava
    @ManunKanava ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just love trams! They are the best way of transport!

  • @tookitogo
    @tookitogo ปีที่แล้ว

    8:37 It really was surreal for that short time, having a few Mirages operating alongside the first few Flexity trams! (FYI, late deliveries weren’t the sole reason the Mirages had to be used: several unfortunately timed accidents caused multiple Tram 2000s and Cobras to be out of service for repairs all at the same time.)

  • @markusstudeli2997
    @markusstudeli2997 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great story of how cities can cooperate and improve transit. Swiss cities like Zürich, Bern or Basel provide good examples on how car dependency can be reduced and quality of life improved for its inhabitants at the same time. Trams usually play an important role in this.

  • @ismoleppanen
    @ismoleppanen ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why scrap good trams, when can be used elsewhere. As for Tatra KT4's, they are durable products and serve many networks after modernization.

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly! And how do You like Ukrainian Tatra modernization?

    • @ismoleppanen
      @ismoleppanen ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cityforall They look very modern, good for many more years.

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ismoleppanen yep, I like them too.

  • @tramlink8544
    @tramlink8544 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mirage still ocasionally get daily dutuies, just last month i watched a Mirage tow a brokendown Flexity to the Oerlikon tram depo :D

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So old technic is more reliable? :)

  • @homobohemicus
    @homobohemicus ปีที่แล้ว

    You can see many Czech trams in the Ukraine as well... and since the begining of the war, Prague has sent so many reconstructed trams that are being phased out but used in various cities around the Ukraine

  • @cesarzteczohito3331
    @cesarzteczohito3331 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about Warsaw trams in Konotop and warsaw metro trains in Kyiv

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good idea! If that kind of videos are interesting I'll do something like that later :)

  • @70M45-c9r
    @70M45-c9r ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Prague as well!

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As well what?

    • @70M45-c9r
      @70M45-c9r ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cityforall Also has been sending trams to Ukraine

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@70M45-c9r that's great! As I know you are sending them to Kharkiv. Am i right?

    • @70M45-c9r
      @70M45-c9r ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cityforall I believe there are some ex-Prague trams in Kyiv from way before the war, but now it's Kharkiv, yes

  • @dercfts1
    @dercfts1 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for talking about ukraine and its public transport! as a ukrainian i think it's really interesting and important

  • @beatrueegg2722
    @beatrueegg2722 ปีที่แล้ว

    the tram 2000s that have already arrived in Vinnytsia would have started their journey more than 1 year earlier if serious reasons had not prevented it. perhaps the third series of tram 2000s will also be delivered to Vinnitsa? they have a low-flying middle carriage.
    are the technical requirements in Lviv identical to Vinnytsia? there was a report recently that Lviv is also to receive trams but still has to make technical clarifications.

  • @JustinJamesJeep
    @JustinJamesJeep ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's go!!! Papa Zurich!

  • @Balaban_Reis
    @Balaban_Reis ปีที่แล้ว

    Kamu Gözü arka plan müziği. Tema da benziyor.

  • @tomasbeltran04050
    @tomasbeltran04050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved ðe video

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice to hear that!

  • @motolikdoprava
    @motolikdoprava ปีที่แล้ว

    You should talk how Prague and Kharkiv is connected, and Sofia also

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And that's also great!

  • @Nauda999
    @Nauda999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think connected doesn't mean what you think it means, perhaps related is a more correct word.
    Here I was thinking there is some secret tram/metro tunnel connecting Ukraine to Switzerland.

  • @beatrueegg2722
    @beatrueegg2722 ปีที่แล้ว

    a few days ago i read a report on the internet that perhaps 11 trams from Bern will be delivered to Lviv if the technical conditions are right.

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've heard about it too. I hope it will work.

    • @beatrueegg2722
      @beatrueegg2722 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cityforall there are not many cities in europe where the track gauge and power supply fit.
      I'm not an electrician, but at least it looks right to me on wikipedia.

  • @Tramfan2001
    @Tramfan2001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i am not ok i have got a tram 2000 seat and i also kiss tram 2000 i am zurich btw

  • @Sanginius23
    @Sanginius23 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    in the 90s, Berlin sold some U-Bahn Trains to Pjongjang North Korea

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wonder they've got money to pay.

    • @Sanginius23
      @Sanginius23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cityforall different times back then...
      Those trains are stillein service btw.

  • @bigmikeswiss
    @bigmikeswiss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Better send tram, than tanks.

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Trams are great, but unfortunately they cannot withstand military aggression

  • @michaeldelisieux5252
    @michaeldelisieux5252 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love trams.

  • @IVWOR
    @IVWOR ปีที่แล้ว

    💪🇺🇦🇨🇭❤

  • @tookitogo
    @tookitogo ปีที่แล้ว

    1:50 Ummm… “The search circle wasn’t very wide…” - I guess you weren’t aware that several older Zurich trams were given away to North Korea, where they now run on one line in Pyongyang!

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo ปีที่แล้ว

      The only video I could find of them post-delivery: th-cam.com/video/XM5i-M1TSVA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ODsG_jNUxRItryJp

  • @golyj000
    @golyj000 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:06 they could build slightly raised stops instead of just throwing passengers under cars...

  • @freewillydp
    @freewillydp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤮🤮🤮

  • @maspalfiker
    @maspalfiker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These look like the Croatian-made, Zagreb-used, TMK101 and TMK201 😎🚊

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      04:28 - Do you mean this one? Yes, there are some similarity.

    • @maspalfiker
      @maspalfiker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cityforall the renovated tram does also look like the newest Končar model TMK 2200 from the 2000's. But I actualy ment that the Swiss older trams that came to UA looks like the Croatian TMK101 from 1950's and the later model TMK201. TMK101 th-cam.com/video/sI_CCt9VLoQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=n0QAjbIxBxn1yt7i ... TMK201 th-cam.com/video/LOWbPiy5Puo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EP0dYeK9Z5k4h8Ad

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, I see!. I guess that is quite standart shape for the trams of that time.