The Male Loneliness Epidemic | Shoe0nHead React
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- I had fun watching this one, I had my own opinions on some things!
original video: • The Male Loneliness Ep...
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The thing about AI like Batman and Master Chief giving life advice is that it comnects to a lot of mens childhood nostalgia making us feel better as well as a lot of them delivering the speech in a fatherly tone.
A lot of advice is generic yes, but it is very uplifting for those who need to hear it. Batman, Master Chief, etc aren't sad or disappointed in us but proud that we've made it this far alone. Still they want to cheer you up
The master chief dad advice warms my cold dead heart
Like a big brother I never had
It gives me peace also learinf how to file taxes is nice to know
never really had a father growing up so I gotta say having some kind of icon of tough but kind and caring men like batman master chief ect talk to me like a dad just helping me through life just helps fill a void in my nearly dead soul
My favorite AI to get life advice from is Joshua Graham. The Kentucky fried mormon knows whats up.
KFM for all your philosophical needs
Facts
We can't expect god to do all the work.
Master chief shows you how to change the oil on your 2006 nisan murano
Yeah, if a guy survived getting lit on fire and yeeted into the grand canyon, I'm interested in what he has to say, at the very least.
I think we need some groups where people can socialize and make social mistakes. A lot of people are too afraid to be awkward but you’ll never learn confidence if you don’t make mistakes. Most people just stay satisfied with being anonymous online .
underrated, this needs to be said more, that said im irl introvert and literally awkward with people irl, its a bit easier online but still it gets awkward sometimes and then I be like "umm thx I take my leave now" and then be down the rest of the day
I am exteemely extroverted and i love inviting new people to join us in local gaming cafe to our group since i notice sometimes people curiously coming over, but never saying anything even if they look like they want to. That is how our group has gotten so big.
I thought that's what the homies are for? Idk I don't live in America
But these groups already exist though. The boys today don't want to be men. They want play video games, watch TH-cam, and have mommy take care of them. Nothing wrong with that stuff, but those things don't create men.
This problem boils down to one thing, and (I can't believe this has to be said, but) I mean no disrespect to anyone. Men today are pathetically weak. Not necessarily physically, but weak constitutionally, weak hearted, zero courage, zero self respect, and zero principles.
This issue starts at a young age, it's the over protecting, anti bullying (some bullying is good for you), over barring parents and schools. If a boy isn't trusted to make mistakes on his own and be roughed up a little bit why would a he grow into a man that isn't afraid of mistakes, standing up for himself, or confident enough to try new things?
See you got to let boys be boys and stop telling them that being a boy is bad, and never allowing them to cause trouble, or put themselves into a bit of danger. It's how boys learn to be men. Fighting, picking on each other, forming a brotherhood, causing a bit of harmless trouble, doing stupid stuff, and a guiding voice of honor and morality from a fatherly figure. That's it. That's all that's required in very basic terms. Obviously it's not just as simple as that, but at its core that's it. Guide them, don't baby them, and allow them to just be boys. the rest will just fall into place.
My life changed when i realized that embarrassing moments effect me more than anybody else. Nobody cares, nobody will remember. The only person thinking of your mistake the next week is you.
This is why men dont talk about thier problems.
Men dont talk about their problems, we solve them. If you cant do that, then youve failed. And if you fail as a man, you get back up and go again. and again, and again. Why have you forgotten this? No one will save you, man the fuck up.
Short and to the point
I really don't understand the people who can only ever see people as intrinsic groups.
The poor kid struggling isn't the same as the billionaire man just because they share a gender.
They need someone to blame, and you better believe they're treating the poor kid who can't defend himself differently.
Those people won't still have any sympathy for a struggling kid even if billionaire men didn't exist.
It's unfortunate but this is why you have to keep an eye on Politics as well even though you hate it. Cause it can get filled with nonsensical bs like this and if unchecked, issues that shouldn't be political suddenly become political and there isn't enough resistance to make it stay neutral. You can't have anything that stays in between these days and it's really annoying.
You dont really need to . You can not be political at all when expressing empathy or your own experience on these these topics. Maybe if I was making informative content of how these norms came into effect that would matter
@@Rosiebellmoo Yeah that's why I said you should keep an eye on it. Cause situations like this that you should be empathetic about is suddenly turned into politics. And at that point these people care about which side you're on and how it can benefit them rather than what the issue is and how to solve it. It's me saying to keep the issues themselves out of politics by making sure it doesn't turn political in the first place by keeping it in check.
Easier said than done I know. Politics always makes things worse for people like us who just want a better world for everyone involved.
@@HelenaHades until you aren't at civil war, who cares what political in your views could be found?
That's may be true in media space, when out of nowhere - you're controversial and cancelled
The idea that you can fix politics from the inside is just a scam.
Takes us back 10 years where for many this all started with GamerGate and in the process it kick started a massive chain reaction think many just feel defeated and deflated because things have only gotten worse since then despite all the resistance hence you have doomers who've all just given up. The war on video games and movie and TV series from Marvel and Star wars etc hasn't helped Men since it was something the majority of them loved and enjoyed.
It definitely seems like when the internet really took off in the late 2000s people started wearing their politics as their personality.
I don't know, the Russians were doing that in the 20s.
@@Baldwin-iv445 And the Germans, the Japanese, the Chinese, and LITERALLY ANY TOTALITARIAN REGIME EVER!
There have always been political wonks, but the internet gave them a way to find each other, just like other nerds. Sadly, they are a lot more dangerous than weebs.
Their inside thoughts could be stated to other like minded individuals, to the point they felt empowered, and now their inside thoughts are their outside thoughts.
@@FelbloodStreamingyeah, they even more dangerous than the American weebs
Historically, men have been the main provider in families. My guess is this was largely due to inequality between men and women. In modern times, men and women are far more equal. If the earning potential of men and women are more equal, and women still only desire men that earn more than them (i.e. women typically don't want to be the main provider), the number of men who can easily find a partner is drastically reduced by income potential alone. Then you add in factors like height, age, race, or any other characteristic of the man that women could be selective about, and it only gets worse. In this way, money and the cost of maintaining a particular lifestyle is the greatest enemy, rather than one gender or the other.
Forgetting about men-women relationships altogether though, money tends to be prohibitive in all interpersonal relationships. Say you got a group of friends, 4 of them earning 75K+ and one earning 45K per annum. If the friend group wants to say go golfing together every weekend and that becomes their bonding activity, then the 5th friend who earns less can't join them as frequently, if at all. The friend group now has the issue of, do they want to compromise to include everyone, or allow the majority to have their way.
Making friends is difficult to begin with. Maintaining friendships could be even more difficult depending on external factors. And as we all know, friendship is cheap if it only exists when its convenient. All in all, a lower cost of living and higher earning potential would help everyone across the board. 😔
I agree with a lot of your points here ! Lower cost of living definitely would help I think.
"Good men fought for women. Now good women need to fight for men." - Saruei
Honestly, every Vtuber girl who does her job well, is like a Miko to the lonely guys in a way. You guys are talking to us a lot more than anyone ever would. It’s no wonder you guys are popular. You have value in society.
Sadly that's part of the problem. Parasocial relationships. You'll never get to talk to these Vtubers, not one on one.
@@grimgrahamch.4157I don’t think that’s what any sane Vtuber fan seeks. We aren’t just Gachikois.
@@grimgrahamch.4157 even if you COULD talk to them one on one it would STILL not be an ideal relationship lol
@@danielantony1882u be surprised not saying every v tuber like that
@@danielantony1882 Who knows how many are going the RiroRon way and arranging meetups (with someting extra) with fans like that girl with pills on her pink hair?
24:18 Maybe I shouldn't but I can't help but laugh every time I see that clip. Welcome to being a man, there are no free hugs here lol.
I also can't stop myself from laughing every time I see it.
fr. It's like how tf did you not notice this before transitioning? You'd think a transman would know more about men.
@@AbyssWatcher745 Because they've been brainwashed their whole life that being a man is ez mode. And despite this treatment they still believe at least to some degree that the treatment is valid/warranted.
I just think "Is this not what you wanted? I thought this is what you wanted. It's what you asked for" Welcome to the suck bro, embrace it.
I figured I might leave a more thoughtful comment this time, rather than just memes or jokes, and say you definitely deserve tons and tons of IRL friends.
My friends from high school and college kind of came and went, and I didn’t do a good job of maintaining connections. It’s difficult, and it kind of gets harder when you get a job and get more distracted. And it’s definitely much harder to meet people now IRL post-pandemic. I don’t think it’s necessarily a male thing or a female thing - it’s just a human problem. But still - you’re awesome and a lot of fun and I wish you all the best, Rosie!
Ah thank you ^.^ I just think im far from the only one ! People move away or interests change.. and its possible the best company isn't someone living next door is all! Thanks for the kindness ^^
Do you have a real life job? I'm pretty sure the best place to find some friends when you are an adult is your work place itself
@@blackman5867 im full time streamer/youtube, ive mae friends at jobs but they just drifted or didnt work out
@@Rosiebellmoo I was actually asking the OP, but I do appreciate your generosity 👍
I'm having a few friends at school right now, so I'm thinking if it's that easy for me to make friends like how I did then I guess I should keep being the same person when I get a workplace after school. You don't necessarily have to be open and extroverted, just try to be cool and nice with everyone around you. And that's how I did it.
But if you can't find anyone who wants to be your friend no matter how hard you try, that's when you know you are in the wrong part of the town, so move away from it when you can and don't blame on own your gender (like does it have to do with anything in the first place?). That my advice, so I guess you should try it or something
Guys, it's 2024. We have love dolls, virtual reality, and vtuber voice packs. Meanwhile, the 3D women include Dylan Mulvaney and Gorlock The Destroyer.
Neither of those two you mentioned are women
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33good representation of average entitled western female.
"Wemon"
@@Ryan-li8qc Reported for h8 speach reee!
@@MK_ULTRA420 Autism is my SUPER POWER!!!
The part I find the most annoying about this type is situation is that the people who discriminate like this never takes a moment to stop and think about what the things they are saying would sound like if they were talking about another group of people that WEREN'T the punching bag of society (white people, especially the men, especially if they are straight). Imagine if you change even half of the stuff that these people say about white people and replace them with either people of color or any other race or sexual identity.
Imagine just how quickly they would jump at the chance to call you a racist, a sexist or some type of phobe. Why is it that people are quick to jump down your throat when it comes to any other group of people but when it comes to white and/or straight people then suddenly people don't care or don't care as much and are more forgiving when it comes to discrimination? This double standard hypocrisy going on in society is a problem and many people either don't care or they actively choose to act like it's no big deal.
If it makes you feel better, a group never stays the punching bag. The only interesting difference this time is such a majority of the populations involved is this group.
"Who's gonna tell thrm that the only way you make a population is, in fact, with both genders?"
Twitter user: Are you IMPLYING that there are only two genders?!
There was a story or rumor of two lesbians being emotionally crushed when they been told by a doctor, that they actually required a physically existing man to make imaginary Timmy a reality
They was really mad about that and left to find solution on thier own, so been told.
@@user-te2ef2jc6dyeah that was actually a real thing....sadly.
@@user-te2ef2jc6d Do they not know about adoption?
yes, there are only two genders actually
@@BlooMonkiManStill requires a man to exist
Loneliness will drive you insane
If you can't capture friends in the wild, you can craft your own inside your head where they can be with you forever! =)
So that's why you are pro cow?
real
I'll have you know, my voices in my head vehemently disagree with you.
I don't have any irl friends either. Hell I haven't even spoken to my online friends in almost a year. I know it's my own fault for that, but knowing the reason still doesn't make it any easier. Hell even when I was a kid I always really struggled with depression. Middle school was probably the most suicidal I ever was. High school was better but it never really went away. It's been over ten years since I graduated and that depression still never went away. Actually it kinda just got worse. Can't honestly remember the last time I was genuinely happy.
I know people usually say the only way is up but it can get much worse mate which is why it’s important to make steps towards recovery as no one can do this for you it will suck balls at first but I promise you always having a goal to reach in front of you is a big factor wether it be a health goal at the gym (highly recommend better results than antidepressants) a goal at work or a physical hobby even something like warhammer which is something that could be an easy way to make friends
Also don’t take a lot of what you see from comment as proof of how bad people are ,vast majority of people generally don’t give a s**t and are focussed on their lives and issue
beyond brutal, its truly over man
The sad thing about the Hikikimori is that those videos dont really help, they make it worse because they're acutely aware that society is not accepting them even if they change.
I want to say something.
Even without social media, we will be in this tragedy sooner than later. Because society is just dumb. For example false confession, bullying, ostracizing the socially awkward people, depression within members of the society and of course alienated from everything. This type of things exist even before social media whether on schools, houses and workplace because people are just dumb, not realising that those actions will have serious consequences in future.
The only difference between my scenario and real life is that social media just sped up that process 1000 times over. Social media didn't brought the worst parts of the society. They brought the true face and reality of the human society.
Hmm I think this is an interesting point of view actually 🤔
It doesn't help how often men are blamed with things too. A guy exist and every other twitter user points screaming they is a rapist even if it is the first time a the guy just spoke to them. Every day false reports of allegations toward men for one thing or another is filed and some even going so far as to enter courts is rather concerning. More often than not it is just people farming views for brain dead tictok followers or something of the like and lets face it it is not changing any time soon.
@@nathanmcclung3564 that shit even exists before social media. It became widespread due to social media.
Like in social media, you often see these people who are arrested in these kinds of crimes are what they call "ugly people". And they didn't do anything wrong. They are awkward, yes but they want to be friends and start a relationship which is normal. Only in this case, the handsome guy does it:- Romance. Ugly guy did it:- Rapist and harassment.
Nothing changed. Just social media rapidly doing the elimination of society as a whole. Because men gave up. They have no life and support.
@@nathanmcclung3564 and if you think I am wrong. Just see it again on social media.
P.S:- I am not sexist but to prove the point, you remember when women are on the internet going bonkers over a handsome serial killer (I guess it was a US killer in Texas, I don't remember). Yeah. I mean men do it too. Famous yandere case in 2018.
People in society are super dumb.
@@nathanmcclung3564 that's what I said. My scenario vs real life has many similarities. The only difference is Social media sped up the process
It is really hard to be a human. We are bombarded with examples or what and who we should be. We need to be mindless robots working for the company. We need to look a certain way, dress a certain way, and fit a mold.
We spend 70/80% of our day sleeping or earning money that we have no time for ourselves. No time to grow, learn, or socialize.
I am unsure how to fix it. Have you ever seen the Bruce Willis movie "Surrogates"? We will all be living like that soon. Maybe the government should put on free social events that can help bring people/communties together.
And Rosie, I know I have a "parasocial" relationship with you, but you seem like a great person and deserve more love and friends
You may have to fight to be yourself, but it's a fight worth fighting.
You're a human being, and you are priceless because of that.
Honestly, life IS easier for men. You know exactly what the rest of the world expects from you: to die as soon as possible, and spare them having to look at you.
at least they're honest about their hate now.
It's more straightforward anyway. At least the misanthropes just say directly what they think with men. Women get this deceptive spiel about empowerment and independence.
wait, how does one lead to the other?
@@TheRhalf knowing that nobody loves you or wants you around makes life clearer. Hence, easier.
@@frenchynoobHow exactly does it make it easier? it makes no sense, how would your life be easier knowing nobody loves you or wants you around, how would "clearer" lead to "easier"?
I think something important lost these days is that humanity has only gotten this far by trying to find a middle ground. We're inherently imperfect beings so we have to rely on others to make up for something we lack. At least from a religious perspective that's why we're made in pairs and from a political it's been apart of democracy from the beginning.
These people haven't had to compromise on anything in their life. They're probably the ones who stole the cookie, and watched their mothers say to their siblings, "oh it was just a cookie, not the end of the world".
Subbed. What keeps me from kicking the bucket is my family, (a select few) friends and my hobbies. On another note, my current job have a really high chance of oofing me out of existence (I survived one deployment with Russian ships and subs lurking around and spying us).
I know a lot of people are like that now days. The only reason they're still around is living family. If this doesn't get fixed its gonna be bad. Hope things get better.
Ukrainian?
@@BlooMonkiMan nope, American
Politics have bleed humanity out of people. Sad to hear that we can't find common ground due to what checkmark you put on a piece of paper that hardly matters in the grand scheme of things.
god i wish i had someone like you to hang out with. when did treating everyone the same and being kind become controversial.
Are you for real? Never belive someones persona on " internet".
People do crazy shiz for cloud.
Just so you know being " kind " only makes people abuse your weeknes... I learned IT hard way in my life.
@@exvex5108 You can be kind without being weak. You can be compassionate without leaving yourself open to abuse. If being kind "makes people abuse your weakness", you've been hanging out with the wrong people. That's on you. Don't act as though everyone will abuse you and thus you should not be kind to others.
listen assumedly 16 year old child. being kind doesnt make you weak being weak makes you weak. you werent taken advantage of because you were nice but because weak willed and cowardly. you ALLOWED people to take advantage of you. granted i did the same when i was 16 but you will realise as you get older that the person who blames 90 percent of the blame is actually you because you can walk away or stand up for yourself and you decided to do niether because you didnt see yourself as worth the trouble. it wasnt worth dealing with the conflict. learn the right lesson.
also i know its a persona but that doesnt matter the persona of a woman who doesnt just automatically hate all men nd want them to die is the kind of person i would like to hang out with.@@exvex5108
@@exvex5108Okay, I won't believe you. Good advice.
@@LameMule What you preach looks nice on paper, but life always verifies in its own twisted ways.
All i know that acting like witty ahole brings better results in life.
It got so bad I even started writing romance novels. I literally had to create my own waifu.
Literally me, except it's in a post-post-apocalyptic setting
I remember thinking the videogame characters giving life at advice was funny, then I remembered being in the barracks parking lot in the army, helping a buddy jump his car. Except I stood there like an idiot not knowing what to do and he looked at me after me standing there awkwardly not knowing what to do and he looked at me and said "ask me how I know you were raised by a single mother". I was just a little late for Master Chief to tell me how to jump start a Honda Accord.
people include politics into societal analyses because you can literally only analyze these types of things in any meaningful way by using a political lens; policy affects society, society affects policy
I dont think so really. I think policy's and beliefs and acceptance or rejecting of certain ideals or beliefs can be on one side of a political spectrum or another.
But you don't have to use politics at all to understand what's happening here. Or to be empathetic.
And a lot of these things become someone's personal soapbox when politics come in .
So I prefer to just not be political with my takes or really allow it to be an opportunity for people to run with when I live stream
@@RosiebellmooFacts 👌
If anything, the political lens is preventing people from being able to look at the societal issue objectively. That's clearly what's happening with the leftists that Shoe is trying to discuss.
In the last year I've had 2 friends and a cousin, all aged 20-30 commit suicide. Shits a serious problem and no one cares at all 🤷♂️
There isn’t much more people can do unfortunately the individual is the only one who can take the first step thinking no one cares is the main issue because it definitely not true that thought is normally the deciding factor in the decision
@@deggsy2720 No, it can very much be true. It gets harder when you deal with it weekly, or even daily.
@@markjacobs3232 I do deal with it every day the only thing that finally got me to get help was I had no choice after putting myself in a coma which was the one and only time I saw my dad cry and the pain for that is indescribable ,so I know there will be someone distraught of that action for a vast majority of people as much as it seem your doing them a favour of being out the picture
@@markjacobs3232 I do deal with it daily I gave up once and I’m still unsure if it was a curse or a blessing that I woke up in hospital, schizophrenia is one hell of a trip but I saw how it hurt other people so now I try everything I can to carry on life sucks a majority of the time which why to need to look for those little goals on the horizon
This video is depressing. I knew I had to watch it eventually, I was just afraid of the truth. Both men and women are lonely, but for women it feels empowering. They get to be independent girlbosses. But men? We struggle in quiet desperation. We aren't allowed to talk about our problems because we are meant to be the emotional support others rely on. Plus, that slideshow of apathetic responses adds another layer of scorn to it. Lile men are just here to be hated.
I've been struggling through a breakup last year, some days are worse than others. I just want that comfort again. We all do. Men and women. So why is it so fucking hard to walk up to some random person and ask them if they want to go out?
Because the deck is so stacked against men that asking a women out in public is just as likely to result in harassment charges if not worse. Hell there are some women that do that kind of thing *for fun.* Not all women are like that, thank goodness, but the fact remains that “the worst she can say is no” is no longer true.
Honestly, same. I also don't have irl friends. The few I did have moved on with their own lives, and I did as well, and now, we only communicate online. I would like to make new, irl friends, but it's difficult.
It's hard to want to date when a majority of women are sleeping around, i mean as a guy i don't want to think of the fact that someone has been with my woman in such an intimate way... That would be mental torture...
Hey, if you read the comments of the Shoe video you will read some of the most heartbreaking stories
Some of those are gutwrenching 😢
Soft fluffy cow ears heal our hearts ❤
as a teen boy I have many online friends but not too many irl friends most of my social interaction comes from talking to guys on the street, but I usually don't see many people my age because a lot of them are just inside online all the time.
understandable. it's the same for me.
The sun is a deadly laser
Thanks for reacting to this. I suggest that you could try to reach out to the honey badgers/badger bites. But, be careful and protect yourself. Erin Pizzey was chased out of England because she dared to say things that certain people did not like.
Nah is sitting in a toilet with nothing to distract is the most loneliest thing you experience just sitting there
"Um, have you tried NOT graping? Have you tried NOT being a knot zee?"
Funny.
Yeah. I tried that. Didn't do anything for me. And even when I try NOT being a grape ape knot zee, these same people will still insist that I am, anyway while castigating me for it.
So if the uniform fits and the label is gorilla glued on, may as well wear it and embrace it.
I didn't even have to try not to be something I'm not. but not being those things didn't somehow magically fix any of the issues. weird that
"ppl called me a nazi, so I became one"
lmao some of you tards deserve to be lonely
Please don't embrace it
@@matthewharner1744 friend, thanks for your concern. I was being hyperbolic and more than a little facetious in order to make a point.
Trying to appease people who hate you and insist on condemning you regardless of behavior is a very exhausting frustrating experience. They can call me a grape apeist and a knot see all they like. I'm not participating in their Kafka trap.
I will act and believe and live according to my principles and values, and if they insist that I am evil, a monster, a bad person who should feel bad about being so wrong and bad? Why should I concern myself with their opinions? Their assessments? They will call me one no matter what, so I simply shrug, and go on with my day. Why should the opinions and values of dishonest people who hate me have any bearing on my life?
Average villain backstory
4:25 that is literally more unnerving than horror movies like I don't wanna stare into the eyes of a recorded person for like an entire video duration, around 10-15 minutes prob.
I literally had the walk to the other side of the street thing happen to me when i was walking to and from the store
The difference is they chose to be a "man." It takes a very special kind of narcissistic ignorant idiocy to look around and see how real men are treated and be like, "yep, gonna get me some of that." Then have the audacity to cry about it while wondering how real men put up with it.
Never I thought a vtuber would react to this
Nux reacted to it too I think
We need more.
Amusingly, Shoe0nHead reactions have been the vtuber meta for months now (perhaps right about the time you posted this). I think I've watched 7 different vtubers react to this one video alone.
Mind you, I'm not complaining. Shoe getting more exposure is a good thing in my book.
when i was younger, everyone who died was from car accidents or drug overdoses. Now its just my old friends seeing themselves out
I honestly don't blame you for not wanting kids. I babysit my nieces. I learned very quickly, I never want my own kids. I do not have enough patience, or a strong enough stomach to deal with the diapers and all. I've seen some horrifying shit, but that takes the cake. And I won't lie. I'm one of those hermit dudes that have no one to talk to and all. I just don't like being social anymore. I'm 25 and I feel old. I'm just tired of dealing with people starting drama and being plainly immature and irresponsible or stupid about everything. I don't mind the hermit life now looking back at the few years of life I've had. It's peaceful, relaxing.
As a man, its more than just a pandemic thing. We are struggling with feeling understood. The pandemic was a catalyst.
Femdom okay sure, but this one is findom and that's a real crisis
On.
fuckin.
God.
20:05
It would be nice if politics wasn’t in everything but sadly it’s like an infection that branches out and corrupts everything. Why are things expensive? Various government policies that impact the market in many differing ways. Men dropping out of college? Various factors ranging from government funded grants that don’t assist men and numerous department of education policies that caters towards ways girls learn to the detriment of boys. As well as things like medicating children for not being able to sit and pay attention for 7-8 hours straight at school.
Sure king whatever you say
I watched the og video didn’t catch the “Batman would be disappointed” bit jesus
Good reactions to these videos.
You seem like a sweet and normal person. The kind who's too nice for the internet lifestyle
I feel like you're the type who could make it wherever you're going to, if you haven't already
I just hope you picked the right goal for you, though I'm sure you'll manage either way
Just to give perspective on how toxic things are for men struggling, the first few seconds of this video was me basically thinking "wusses". Acting like it's not talking about me as well.
I quite literally have nobody to talk to in my life that is of the opposite sex, who I can be sure that won’t leave me behind because of the emotions and issues I have. Can’t talk to my mom or sibling because they’re the ones that caused my problems so *clearly* that would blow up in my face. I don’t have any friends of the opposite gender that would actually let me just express how I feel and I’m.. uncertain of the girl that I’m trying to have a relationship with. She seems nice and like the kind of girl that would let me be my emotional self, but I can’t be sure (I’m also terrified I would just be a burden.) You can never be sure as a guy. I could express myself to my male friends, but they are focused on other things and have their own issues; of which they also can’t talk about. Growing up in a household of women, and a family in which mostly consists of women I have always felt as if I stuck out like a sore thumb because I was always an emotional male child. My sibling would always say things like “You’re so sensitive. Grow up” and while our relation to each other is much better, I still can’t repair myself. The online aspect doesn’t help either. I try to open up, get shut down immediately. Men can’t talk to anyone. We’re *supposed* to be manly, strong and stoic. It isn’t *normal* for a boy to cry over something that seems insignificant to someone else, the way that I always did. There have been many times where I wished I was born a girl, just so I wouldn’t be shut down when I cried in front of people.
I now cry completely alone, with nobody to help me. I don’t even want help; I just want people to realize that we struggle the same way that those of opposing sexes do.
Please, if you are a woman or someone who identifies as such - check up on the men you know. It would mean more than the entire world to them.
I've been in multiple veteran support groups over the years and one of the most common things I hear from the men (myself included) is the fear of being a burden to people. Simultaneously, quite a few men there had saved the lives of other troops and none of them felt that the lives they saved were burdens. So if someone doesn't want to help you because you're a "burden" to them then that person is likely a piece of shit anyways. Keep fighting brother.
AI Joshua Graham guides us into a good path
13:29 I hate how this guy says that men have no reason to be around anymore, but he only lists things related to pleasure and dating. Have you ever heard of INFRASTRUCTURE? Policing? Most of science and math? Firefighting? Inventions? A lot of pop culture? *AGRICULTURE?* You know, pretty much everything that men invented? Medicine, the microscope, the phone, the SMARTphone, the bell, the book, the internet, the library, the radio, paper, fireworks, art, music, democracy, theatre, the abolishment of slavery, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Daoism, Shintō, Rastafarianism, Judaism, Confucianism, Islam, Zoroastrianism, and Baha’i? What about the discovery of Uranus and Neptune? The Voyagers? The moon landing? Almost every empire in history? The discovery of Australia, New Zealand and Antarctica? Thanksgiving? The invention of marriage? All of philosophy? The Art of War? So much more, too.
I joined a D&D community, a real life local meat space D&D group. It helped me make friends and grow in self confidence in ways I could never imagine before.
It doesn't have to be D&D, look for any hobby group that interests you nearby and join in. I'd bet a lot of loneliness could be cured by feeling part of a community and seeing regular people once or twice a week.
The last time I hugged someone I didn't share DNA with was 3 years ago
My closest friends are 4 people I exclusively speak to on the internet
Vyvanse and Escitalopram have done a decent enough job of helping me gaslight myself into being okay with this, but occasionally it does hit me hard. Luckily it's usually right before I go to bed, so I can just sleep it off. I don't see things getting better this generation.
C'est la vie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm 44 and have never even held a girls hand I have been crawling out of that hole but haven't made it yet I have no friends at all.
Dude I'm grateful for the internet I've met amazing peop)e that I would've never knew existed bc of it
The metal rod in my leg actually made me shorter, But just on the one side.... Loopsided as a mutha fucka. Gotta wear them special boots now so I don't limp.
This is so frustrating. I'm part of a group that is literally giving people the answers, and when we give it to them they just get angry at us. That's why this is getting worse and worse and worse. Nobody wants to have that conversation. Nobody wants to acknowledge what the actual problem is. I could send you to the channel that talks about what the problems actually are and how this all started, where it came from... But if I do, I don't think anyone's going to actually listen or they'll just take one look at it and close it... or worse, get triggered. But hey... If you actually want to know, I'll direct you.
When I ride the train to my college classes, if I'm sitting next to a girl I worry a little that she might feel threatened, that's how bad this has gotten.
I'm gonna keep it a band with y'all. The truth of the matter is that we need to reincorporate the rules of nature into society a bit. Not completely, but just enough of it.......
I wouldn't say it has anything to do with technology, I remember a book from Michael Crichton, author of Jurassic Park, Disclosure, a book about VR and Men being SA-ed.
Published 1994, part way through the book while talking about how no one believes he was SA-ed and is now being threated with being fired for "slandering the woman" a couple who are friends with the main character, the victim of SA, tell him that they would have never gotten together based on the repressive view of dating and men being stalkers for approaching women at work or multiple times... which was present in the 90s! We have a much worse social system right now!
They go on to say that he asked her out dozens of times and she eventually caved and later they became happily married.
The simple truth is that we, both biological genders, are equals but we are different and the way we court is mostly "submissive" on the woman's side and "aggressive" on the man's side, that is why Bumble changed how it works, women usually aren't forward with approaching men so men have to do it.
It’s not the easiest thing when the loneliness washes over you. Personally I’ve taken to playing games that I enjoy and going out to eat by myself. I think sulking on the loneliness is one of the worst things you can do. Since you’re by yourself, why not play some music you like and have your own little party. Or put on some bizarre B rate movie and see what happens.
Maybe it’s different for other people, but that’s how I avoid feeling really lonely.
After 20 years the games become just another part of your routine, because there is nothing else to your life. You wake up and don't even want to play games, but it's all you've got. The weed helps you not take a nose dive off the highway, but as even online friends dwindle and you stop playing with them, you really got nobody and nothing.
Imo
@@Aughtel I’ve been playing games for over a decade. They are part of my routine. Not because I don’t have anything else to do, but because there are games I want to play. It’s not like forcing yourself to play the same game year after year. If I don’t want to play them then I don’t play them.
@@paytonyoder1260 that'd be nice
@@Aughtel if things are very bad for you then I’m sorry to hear it. I know that what I’ve said most likely won’t work for everybody. But maybe it can help somebody out. That’s all that matters.
"Friendships are so much harder to build"
Not really, it's roughly the same level of difficulty to build but things are different between men and women. As long as you're on good terms, friendships between men are far essier to maintain though
Love Shoe0nHead and watching it with vTubers is waay more fun, thanks!
edit: I now see why you didn't want to talk politics, because of the US political climate is such a mess.
8:48 let's be very clear: economics is politics and hours worked per week went down until 2000 and then went up again, that's politics/policy too.
Their are definitely political elements in this. Especially in the US where culture plays such a huge role in politics as well.
Having said all that: obviously, whatever can be done to help people, any people, we should be doing.
I get politics can be incredibly annoying and I don’t judge anyone for not being interested but when you cover a topic that has a lot to do with material conditions and the breaking of gender roles it can always be tied back to politics. However your point about trying to look past that and treat each other as equals is incredibly valid
My favorite thing is when they want all men to vanish. It's why I wanted our expansion into space to happen, purely because I think it would be funny to have whole cities who no longer have men. It would be funny to see them figure out that their clean water and food were provided by the men in that city. Space colonies can't get started soon enough.
9:12 - I dont understand what this means. If you're talking about problems in society at large and how to fix them (economic inequality and technology regulation)... I'm pretty sure you're talking about politics...
Like, I understand the gut reaction to not want to pick a side, but when the sides are:
A. We should do something
B. We should not do something
Staying "apolitical" is... just picking side B, y'know?
Exactly. That was such a low IQ take from her it honestly made me unsub lmao
Not interfering is often the right thing to do. Many problems are caused by interfering.
@@peacemaster8117 "it's not my problem" or "I can't do anything about it" is such a mindset that way too many people have nowadays. many more problems happen by not doing anything at all. if you can improve something or someone why shouldn't you try? too many people sit by and do nothing.
> Men should socialize amongst themselves
> *Andrew tate enters the chat*
> NO NOT LIKE THAT REEEEEEE
I'm single by choice because to me my time, energy and money are better spent on me than just being a holdover for some b***h waiting for a man with more money to come along
Lonely is bad but not the worst. The worst thing is you are in relationship with selfish people.😢
To be honest, I guess I used to be addicted to cornography. Though once I learned what a toxic mess it is behind the screens something in me just switched and I never watched again. Maybe learning such things might help others. (If you're struggling yourself, look up what's going on behind the scenes of actors/actresses/escorts and the sorts...)
19:47 I mean… acknowledging the problems with society and trying to fix them is kinda exactly what politics is… politics is what basically every country runs on, so if you want shit to change, thats kinda the only real effective way to do shit…
exactly.
Man there are so many terrible people on Twitter. It's frustrating to listen to. Social media was a mistake.
I don't have any IRL friends, either...
But I wish you the best, Rosie. You're too young to not have any IRL friends. Hopefully that'll improve to you sometime soon... I truly do wish that for you, as I know how lonely it can get without IRL friends.
Sincerely.
22:30 I will respect any pundit 1000x more if they will link an opinion that they don't entirely endorse, just because they believe that the issue is worthy of nuanced discussion. That's a mark of someone who doesn't just spout their own brand, but actually listens to ideas.
Nuancebros are cringe. Far cringier than any of the hugbox people. "Oh wow you're so great you entertrain ideas you're literally beyond normal humans"
Is there anything sadder than you?
07:40 "why dont we have a leftist andrew tate?", ah but shoe you do have one, it is just that his name is vaush!.
yeah the left really lack good male rolemodels, men are right and women are left is a common view among american (and probably general western world) political discourse, but the thing is we know that women are a lot more conservative under certain conditions, mostly during tough financial times (example the women of 1933's germany was the a large percent of the voter base of the Nazi party) or in countries that are highly religious (just look at the contemporary modesty squad of the terror groups, ISIS is a great example), but I got to be honest the economic position of the modern american millenial/genz seem to be decreasing and the all the previous research suggest that women would become more conservative but a lot of women have become even more progressive/radical with the worsening of the economic position, maybe it could be that before 1960 (or so) women was a lot more conservative because they had a potential to get sexually abused which carried with it a chance of becoming pregnant and the pill (1960) and abortion (legalized in 1976) made it a lot easier for a women to handle the aftermath of a abuse, now the question is if the us/the west becomes a lot more conservative on the abortion laws would women become more conservative? I would argue that women would become a lot more conservative with regards to immigration(, at the start it would probably be especially strict when it comes to male immigrants but then the female immigrants would be the next since a lot of women would come and the dating market would become skewed with more women in the market leading to less attention toward the more unfortunate looking women, leadign the women to go into politics with a anti-female immigrant policy)
As a man; yeah, I feel lonely simetimes. But rather that than being with a woman who uses me for either work or my money.
I’ve had like 5 maybe 7 friends in my life and it’s been years since I had a friend lol also never dated either
She ain't wrong about the male loneliness because I've been dealing with it for the past 16 years (no girlfriend) but recently I joined a D&D group and we meet together every Tuesday, we're friends but not like close friends.
TBH, I'm not gonna finish this vid. So those who did, answer me this. Do the studies differentiate between being alone and being lonely? Or are they just saying that if you are one, you must also be the other?
Real life is turning into cyberpunk flavored dystopia. I don't mind at least it's not the uptight 1984 style dystopia.
Is that supposed to be a joke?
It's going to be much much worse.
1984 had a baby and left it to be raised by Demolition Man and Idiocracy.
@@nonotorious1467 Why does it sound like a joke to you? One is a mundane black and white existence with an all seeing eye watching your every move. The other full of neon lights, explicit billboards and hyper violence on every street corner.
not yet, that is
you're cute. i hope you make it in the industry
Thank you 😊
It's literally just an avatar? Do you mean the voice?
@@jamespadgett8660both.
@@jamespadgett8660 Going out on a limb here but they probably meant personality.
I've never really heard of someones personality being described as cute. Pleasant? Sure.@@LameMule
Its all fun and games until all men creates a new society or just leaves the current society. We are a lot closer to the manhwa "perfect half" Than ever before.
I choose to be alone because I hate the majority of people. People suck and the few that dont are hard to find
I don't get feminist when they denied and hating men, if they think men are evil isn't if they take in and teach the younger generation men to respect the boundaries and what they have to avoid when around woman they could make a better men? And by denied and hating the younger generation they just make it the same thing and don't fix anything. Idk man maybe my way thinking just weird I guess.
Bold of you to assume that there's anything more to them than hate and envy.
They don't want equality. They just want their turn to be on top.
@@thegrimharvestit’s Feminism, it’s in the name. Feminine(female)- Ism(thought). It’s not about anyone else’s thoughts nor is it about equality, it’s about female Ideology.
@@LordDaret that selfish huh, they want it fix without to work on it, damn that sounds like woman aight
If you're truly interested in the other creators she referred to, I highly recommend burgerkrieg, the dude is underrated. He's got plenty of videos addressing men's issues, and plenty of good non-political content too. He also does a lot of long-form content that can last for hours.
I'll have to look into it ! Feel free to suggest on discord videos as well
bruh when God made me
BUFFS is (6'6 235lbs 12% bodyfat handsome Fluent in 3 languages )
NERFS (Play's League of Legends)- I got nerfed into the ground SAJ
I don’t wish league of legends on my worst enemies
It's over for you
You had to be nerfed, the balance is fixed
it maybe true andrew tate is probably scaming but is also possible that the extreme of the issue with woman and and extreme man figure comes along as part of the equation to blace itself out, true for everything in life. There is no up without down no left without right, no good without evil duality the balance in everything.
That Transman... men learn to not show that level of emotion publicly because we are punished for it. Don't think that men don't feel pain just like women...
In theory men feel it stronger then women. Due to how the brain of a man concentrates on either the left of right hemisphere at a time, while women multitask both at the same time.
It means that women usually require less to start the creative process or waterworks but that men have more depth once they find inspiration or pain.
In general women find it off putting when a man shows emotion. This might be learned behavior or ingrained biology, no real studies have been done on that side of it. The part that has been studied is how men were being pushed to the Anger Management (2003) style explosion and then blamed for it. That is why men are being told to show it instead of crying over a pint with the bros and being belittled for doing so. It is objectively bad for mental health to bottle things in but men aren't really being given a choice.
Remember guys nobody will care about you if you don’t offer something, keep on that grind until we drop
I started following some political stuff, because of extremist's take like those shown in the video. It's not just gender stuff but economics, race, and LGBT too, all of them has extremists on every aspect.
Gender and race extremists makes me think history is a cycle, we goes from men sexist toward women and white people racist toward others to flipping who treating who poorly, we now have misandry and people being racist toward white people.
While I know there are extremist on the other end and majority of people are not extremist, the side I mentioned has been very vocal for the past decade. I hope more people push back the extremist.
wait until Mike Litoris hears about this.
There's something I really don't understand.
I don't have friends, especially not close ones.
But when I had friends I didn't really want to see them that often, they call every day and want to hangout every night. I just wasn't feeling it.
Now we don't talk anymore and I'm no more or less miserable than I was when they were around.
I don't know if I'm antisocial, or just used to being alone.
The problem with not bringing politics into this is that the issue has become intertwined with the rhetoric of both sides. Political issues and cultural issues (at least in the US) have started becoming one and the same. People have begun to be violent towards one another and its not getting any better.
They always have been one and the same...back to at LEAST the civil rights era in the 50's...and for most of human history in fact...trying to separate them is a charlatan's game the likes of which is fitting for the "Wah, show I liked is 'woke' garbage now" crowd, not actual serious people with knowledgeable views.
not an american but if i was and i was seeing stuff like this where they have too go political for stuff like this i would just move out of the us permanently and never look back and as a european looking inn the us looks just soo fucked for the people living there that even if it was not all about politics i would still move
Andrew Tate very much wants to recruit men and he is very open about it. He wants a generation of men who are wealthy, successful, fit and healthy but also loyal to him. I think this is why the system at large is having such a big backlash against him. The system, as it stands, has a lot of power from sedated men. Andrew Tate is telling men to stop being sedated. To not engage with the sedation system.
The dudes a nut. Its evident what men see in him. But he exploits it
Yea he's pretty toxic but says some stuff they like. Who would want a tate boy dating their daughter really
@@danieln6700 Nobody hopefully, especially given he is now known to be a constant sex pest who was nothing more than a glorified pimp in all the worst possible ways.
You are the second VTuber complaining about people "making everything political" in a Shoe reaction. I mean girl, Shoe videos are political, even if she doesn't write it in her titles. Almost every second video of her is literally picking up a current political debate on Twitter adding her 2 cents. There are many things to criticize about the political streamers and content creators she references on an individual basis, but about their specific opinions, not that they "make stuff political". Viewing things through a political lense is literally their job, their bread and butter. It's like going to a military academy and complaining that they make everything about war and violence and stuff. Or watching a VTuber saying "why do they need to make everything anime".
I think a big part of the problem is our car-centric infrastructure. We get from place to place in a metal cage that keeps us separate from each other. Even if you choose to walk somewhere, there will be fewer people making the same decision and so there’s little chance to actually interact with the people around you.
Oh yeah cars...you mean those things that guys absolutely LOVE? Yup, i sure would love to have to wait for the bus or tram and sit in a smelly box with a ton of strangers instead of hanging with my homies workin' on our cars or taking road trips. Yup, it's totally the cars! It's totally has nothing to do with dating apps where 80% of women are swiping on 5% of dudes, nope, it's totally not that.
@@nonotorious1467they'll point to some obscure place in european where they live in a high trust area, to try to make the point about CARS BAD.
You could walk around to go into shops in town that you haven’t been to before. Or just enjoy taking a walk. What interactions do you even have with people that are also walking? Saying hello as you pass by them? Or trying not to make thing awkward when you happen to be going in the same direction they are?
@@nonotorious1467
It’s in large part because of cars that you can’t get places without a bus or tram. Look around you, what percentage of that land is filled with parking lots and roads? And then look at a zoning map of your city, do you think they would make it that way if it wasn’t designed with cars in mind?
Dating apps do suck. But they aren’t what destroyed the alternatives, they are just what filled the gap caused by other changes in our society.
@@paytonyoder1260
Exactly. It’s not so easy to circumvent the problem by just going on a walk, as you have well articulated. The entire concept of spontaneous human interaction has collapsed with a few exceptions. Which, to be fair, is not entirely due to the car-centric infrastructure, that’s just the greatest barrier to undoing the damage.
It's not just understandable, it's actually good that you don't want to have politics included in things they have no business being in. Unfortunately, there are far too many people who insisted on including politics in literally everything, so everyone else has to adapt accordingly.