@@jdeco1856 very true but in my opinion (which means nothing here) I think the Ecotec would have been more interesting. Or at least something different...
Its almost unique as pumpkin spice lattes.... Its a LS with a different transmission bolted up to it, nothing really unique. The only thing different about the LS4 is a slightly shorter crank and a different location for the starter. Other than that its a mix of a LS3 and LS6.
@@chefdan87 😂yeah Ik ls swaps are common but if this works its a really good budget option thats interesting. Seeing boostedboiz, turbo j series not bad either
The only problem I can see with the gas tank being right next to the hot exhaust, is the fuel turn in the vapor, and you can run the risk of vapor lock. Either that or a bomb
if they use the up and forward turbo headers (which would actually be out the back for this setup) the exhaust would be up high and the fuel cell could be way down low. 5 gallon cells aren't that big anyways.
@@overyonderjustapiece still he would be dumb to put the fuel in the rear same ass the radiator, did you not see what happened to the guy at the last cleetus and car's who had a rear mounted rad a hose exploded spraying hot coolant all over him he had to be life flighted to the hospital just imagine a hot fuel life busting and spraying on the exhaust would be a bad day for everyone involved
@@jamesworkman686 the radiator hoses ran from the front of the car to the back through the passenger cabin in that instince with no shielding. The water pump an radiator will all be out the back in this case. An hope he install some sort of fire break between him.
I had a sandrail with a 3.5 Buick V6 front wheel drive car bolted to the back of a sandrail. Motor trans drive shafts all from the car. On dirt at 75 mph it would shift into overdrive. Fun 4 seater.
You should think about taking apart the trans and welding the diff. Even with an lsd it will probably unload all the power to the wheels with no traction.
This thing is going to be pretty badass, maybe its just me but I'd support that rear motor mount more. The one at were a firewall should be it looks great but I'm thinking to should be tied into the chassis at least one more time. I'd run a bar or two down from the top to that new cross bar you guys put in. Looking good keep up the good work!!
Fuel cell upfront and radiator on rear driver side. Run the headers upside down with exhaust turning back over the top of the engine with stainless magnaflow muffler(s)
Don't side-by-sides usually hide the gas tank underneath the passenger or driver seat wouldn't that be a good place that would leave more room for your radiator and potentially some sort of Splash wall cuz you don't want that thing bursting on you.
I'm mostly curious about whether they checked rotation of the diffs and the out put of the trans if not they might just have the fastest backwards driving side by side on the planet
I love this monster!! bro don’t let haters get you down !!, trevies customs is the bomb ! I’ve watched you build a lot of cool stuff over the years!! Your definitely going to break all four cv axels with freedom!!
Look at the Ford TTB Dana 40 front diff out of OSB F150s and Broncos. Might be a good option for a diff swap. Cheap plentiful and can easily hold the power.
@@brandonpanozzo86 but they are already so busy between the projects the have already. Maybe if they did it right after they bought it. But now, not really. Of course I don’t know everything that happens in their lives so I could be wrong
It might make sense to hit up mark williams for a CV stub to u joint adapter or even a custom front/rear shaft. They should be relatively local and Brent from PFI knows those guys and could prob get you in touch with them.
That's wild, a 5300 DOD FWD setup from a Grand Prix GXP or similar models. It will be PLENTY of power for this SXS, so it's going to make for a wild ride! A hell of alot more power than the 4 cylinder made! I'm sure Trevor already knew this, but Jack Cecil from HP Logic boosted his stock Renli.
Do you need to weld the diff? I'm not familiar with that kind of transmission but I would think it would be some kind of limited slip. And could just spin the the front shaft. Im not sure just wondering.
The torque is going to destroy the drive train in that buggy. Literally going to have a high-speed metal bat between your legs when that driveshaft lets go. I thought the 500hp single cam 4cyl you have would have been a way better fit. As long as you don't try to have fun driving it, it should be fine.
a K series is about 210lbs dressed...even an ls engione is like 420lbs dressed...so it really is al;ot more weight...but i doubt thats enough to hurt considering the stock stuff was like 200lbs ish
Trev, this is going to take ALOT of custom fabrication to make a front wheel drive setup work. I can't wait to see how you make the drivetrain function. Unless it's a locked spool or a welded diff you'll have to figure out something for the other driveshaft that's supposed to be locked into the opposite side of the trans. I'm sure you already have it figured out, I'm just excited to see your solution.
@@MotionAutoTv I knew you had it all figured out brother. I don't doubt you at all, I've seen some of your builds and your ways of fabricating things to work. I was just wondering how you were going to make it work. I can't wait to see it!
I'd have someone make a beefier front driveshaft (or at least add a lot of driveshaft loops and strengthening in the "driveshafttunnel"). This project has everything that makes Roadkill great, questionable idea, but also kinda awesome..
Love the build this is one build am going to keep a eye on I got one question do you think the deferential is going to hold the power the engine has ??? Apart from that am really interested on how it's going to come out I got to give you and your team a big tums up for taking on this project.
Top speed will be really low with regular car diff, assuming that's a f28 trans, that has 0.72:1 6th and 3,72:1 final drive, at 6500 engine RPM you get 2,360 half shafts RPM. If you further reduce it with a R200 3.916:1 diff you'll get 600 wheel RPM. I have no idea what tyre circunference you'll be using but for example, with 225/55R17 you'll get 47Mph in 6th
Its probably gonna just snap axels and twist up the frame but I love it!! Put the fuel cell and as much weight up front as you can.
I dont think the diffs are long for this world either.
@@chefdan87 its not like a stock ls4 is some insane powerhouse. Very tame for the ls family. That manual will make things fun though.
Look up go kart ls.
One of the most unique projects in a while. This is gonna be niice
It's still just another LS... An interesting chassis to put it in but still... Another LS.
@@4BillC not really another LS this one being unique since it is only in fwd cars
@@jdeco1856 very true but in my opinion (which means nothing here) I think the Ecotec would have been more interesting. Or at least something different...
Its almost unique as pumpkin spice lattes.... Its a LS with a different transmission bolted up to it, nothing really unique. The only thing different about the LS4 is a slightly shorter crank and a different location for the starter. Other than that its a mix of a LS3 and LS6.
@@chefdan87 😂yeah Ik ls swaps are common but if this works its a really good budget option thats interesting. Seeing boostedboiz, turbo j series not bad either
The only practical use for that version of LS I can tell you that
Fuel cell behind the drivers seat down low, radiator in the back, battery up front with the winch and fuses and ecu. Good weight distribution there.
Pretzels incoming with those drive shafts. 🥨
that thing is gonna be ridiculous with the torque that motor makes,....LOVE IT!!!!
The only problem I can see with the gas tank being right next to the hot exhaust, is the fuel turn in the vapor, and you can run the risk of vapor lock. Either that or a bomb
if they use the up and forward turbo headers (which would actually be out the back for this setup) the exhaust would be up high and the fuel cell could be way down low. 5 gallon cells aren't that big anyways.
Fuel on top of battery and electrical is not ideal by any means!
@@overyonderjustapiece still he would be dumb to put the fuel in the rear same ass the radiator, did you not see what happened to the guy at the last cleetus and car's who had a rear mounted rad a hose exploded spraying hot coolant all over him he had to be life flighted to the hospital just imagine a hot fuel life busting and spraying on the exhaust would be a bad day for everyone involved
@@jamesworkman686 the radiator hoses ran from the front of the car to the back through the passenger cabin in that instince with no shielding. The water pump an radiator will all be out the back in this case. An hope he install some sort of fire break between him.
You guys are so humble on your videos you guys do your thing keep it coming
Nice fabrication..
I didn't realize the ls and the k series
Were so close in weight
The bracket/mount that goes to the transmission could probably use a bar welded from the apex to the horizontal member near the throttle body.
Build stopped????
I had a sandrail with a 3.5 Buick V6 front wheel drive car bolted to the back of a sandrail. Motor trans drive shafts all from the car. On dirt at 75 mph it would shift into overdrive. Fun 4 seater.
sad there are no more updates on this :'(
It’s about time that thing has been setting for 3 years
Motor weights more than the frame 🤣 gonna be rowdy!!!
You should think about taking apart the trans and welding the diff. Even with an lsd it will probably unload all the power to the wheels with no traction.
Solid mounts fell like it's gonna twist the frame real quick
This thing is going to be pretty badass, maybe its just me but I'd support that rear motor mount more. The one at were a firewall should be it looks great but I'm thinking to should be tied into the chassis at least one more time. I'd run a bar or two down from the top to that new cross bar you guys put in. Looking good keep up the good work!!
Here's a question? Is the rotation of the engine an gearbox in the right direction or are you going to have 5 speeds in reverse?
Yea the way the engine is positioned the rear driveshaft when looking at it from the back of the vehicle will be spinning clockwise so idk
Fuel cell upfront and radiator on rear driver side. Run the headers upside down with exhaust turning back over the top of the engine with stainless magnaflow muffler(s)
Garret is such a talent! Man I wish someone like that was near me, not that I know of anyway!
I was kinda doubting the 5.3 because this size, however it looks like it going to turn out good. Might have to upgrade the rear shocks with the weight
Don't side-by-sides usually hide the gas tank underneath the passenger or driver seat wouldn't that be a good place that would leave more room for your radiator and potentially some sort of Splash wall cuz you don't want that thing bursting on you.
Gas tank next to the engine and radiator in the rear then move the battery to the front to even the weight
Have you thought about putting the radiator on the roll cage to give it optimal air flow? Like mount it behind the seats with an electric fan
I'm mostly curious about whether they checked rotation of the diffs and the out put of the trans if not they might just have the fastest backwards driving side by side on the planet
I think much hravier tubing is gonna be necessary to contain the power and torque.
I love this monster!! bro don’t let haters get you down !!, trevies customs is the bomb ! I’ve watched you build a lot of cool stuff over the years!! Your definitely going to break all four cv axels with freedom!!
You should get a visual mockup designed. It wld be a great roadmap
I think the axles and drivetrain will hold up for quite a while, as long as you drop the clutch in the dirt then ofcourse😂
Look at the Ford TTB Dana 40 front diff out of OSB F150s and Broncos. Might be a good option for a diff swap. Cheap plentiful and can easily hold the power.
Front cv on my obs z71 3/4 ton is bolted on the diff.
It seems to be coming together so nicely. It'll be a certified ripper for sure.
You need the splined unions because of the compression of suspension changes the required length. Dont do the u joints without a slip/spline....
To save some money on the 6 bolt CV they also came in the Chevy obs 1500s
I think you'll get by with that driveshaft considering the weight or lack thereof. Cool project fellas!
Loving this! Definitely weight the LS vs the K series if you have time. Would be very useful data for internet arguments, hahaha.
About 50lbs
@@carguyty9370 video or no proof!
@@overyonderjustapiece Google
Dont forget to weld the diff in the saab box
I'd probably put some driveshaft loops in it
When are we going to see a new video on the freedom cart ??
Most American thing I've seen all week and I work in a navy shipyard!
I bet cleetus wishes he knew he could of gotten an ls in there that easy
but ole cleet doesn't have an LS that can be FWD
@@camerong.5989 he could buy 100 within 100 miles of his house though I would bet
@@brandonpanozzo86 to be honest this seems like something he would have someone else fab up
@@camerong.5989 probably but James could of done it pretty easy or the new guy or both of them
@@brandonpanozzo86 but they are already so busy between the projects the have already. Maybe if they did it right after they bought it. But now, not really. Of course I don’t know everything that happens in their lives so I could be wrong
It might make sense to hit up mark williams for a CV stub to u joint adapter or even a custom front/rear shaft. They should be relatively local and Brent from PFI knows those guys and could prob get you in touch with them.
Only thing you need on the buggy is a wheeley bar now
I like it. Can't imagine it'll handle too well due to the offset weight distribution but either way i love it!
Would you ever consider building a drag diesel pick up truck?.
Love to see the finished project but i would of use the LS or LT in the front wheel drive SS Impala or MC/Monte Carlo
That’s exactly what this is. LS4
Need to do some kind of crazy 8 to 1 exhaust set up or some zoomies
That's wild, a 5300 DOD FWD setup from a Grand Prix GXP or similar models. It will be PLENTY of power for this SXS, so it's going to make for a wild ride! A hell of alot more power than the 4 cylinder made! I'm sure Trevor already knew this, but Jack Cecil from HP Logic boosted his stock Renli.
Longitudinally mounted engine in a rwd configuration... better look at the oil pan baffling, idk if itll be an issue but it may be.
Favourite project on TH-cam right now.
Love from Australia 🥰
Do you need to weld the diff? I'm not familiar with that kind of transmission but I would think it would be some kind of limited slip. And could just spin the the front shaft. Im not sure just wondering.
Lots of progress and quality works as usual. Mucho excited!
Those atv diff gears will be nothing but gums after the first drive. Did you confirm that the trans output rotation is correct?
Those pink bolts are sick haha I want
Big R Special!
Thank you so much for putting the v8 in that 🦅🇺🇸❤
This will be crazy
I wana see an update on this thing
I hope the frame doesn't twist when it's given full throttle
The torque is going to destroy the drive train in that buggy. Literally going to have a high-speed metal bat between your legs when that driveshaft lets go. I thought the 500hp single cam 4cyl you have would have been a way better fit. As long as you don't try to have fun driving it, it should be fine.
That Kart is gonna be freaking insanely fast
a K series is about 210lbs dressed...even an ls engione is like 420lbs dressed...so it really is al;ot more weight...but i doubt thats enough to hurt considering the stock stuff was like 200lbs ish
Trev, this is going to take ALOT of custom fabrication to make a front wheel drive setup work. I can't wait to see how you make the drivetrain function. Unless it's a locked spool or a welded diff you'll have to figure out something for the other driveshaft that's supposed to be locked into the opposite side of the trans. I'm sure you already have it figured out, I'm just excited to see your solution.
Gonna weld it
@@MotionAutoTv I knew you had it all figured out brother. I don't doubt you at all, I've seen some of your builds and your ways of fabricating things to work. I was just wondering how you were going to make it work. I can't wait to see it!
Cool! Now finish the C10. It's freezing outside!
I'd have someone make a beefier front driveshaft (or at least add a lot of driveshaft loops and strengthening in the "driveshafttunnel"). This project has everything that makes Roadkill great, questionable idea, but also kinda awesome..
I love the fwd ls in it. Screw the haters!
What are those pink bolts? Grade 9? Never seen them before....
is this thing dead? i havent seen any new videos on it.
I have the impala SS with the same engine. Could I fit the same transmission you have in my car
No more freedom kart?
You need Porsche 934 or 930 axles and bigger diff's.......sandrail stuff
So glad you went with the bald eagles and freedom.
better figure out something for that rear diff!! shits about to go bye bye
You guys should do an 8 into 1 equal length exhaust
Oscar knocked it out of the park
What's the plan with the diff in the trans. I'm sure it is a lsd but wouldn't it be better if it was locked or welded?
Weld it
I need a set of those LS mounts
Put some nice longe travel fox shocks take it to the dunes and send it!
When’s the next part coming?
Can't wait to see you boost this next! :D
Did you guys ever finish this?
When yall gona upload vids on this again
what direction does the differentials turn and what direction does the transmission turn
this way, rotated both to figure it out
Are you gonna build the engine or leave it stock
Need to cam that. Would make a world of difference.
Oh its getting a Little Big Cam from Texas Speed :)
Go full freedom. US Stars and Stripes on the plastics
Is the Saab trans a direct fit bolt on?
this 240 puts the Illiminate ricey 240 giveaway car to absolute shame in build quality and Paint & Body...
Love the build this is one build am going to keep a eye on I got one question do you think the deferential is going to hold the power the engine has ??? Apart from that am really interested on how it's going to come out I got to give you and your team a big tums up for taking on this project.
What ratio are the diffs? 1:1?
when the going gets tough the tough hire talented people to finish the job 😂
Just like daddy Cleet.
freedom cart vs boosted boiz razzle dazzle ??🤷♂️
Definitely the cleetus thing to do.
Gotta do the om606 thing sometime
Top speed will be really low with regular car diff, assuming that's a f28 trans, that has 0.72:1 6th and 3,72:1 final drive, at 6500 engine RPM you get 2,360 half shafts RPM. If you further reduce it with a R200 3.916:1 diff you'll get 600 wheel RPM. I have no idea what tyre circunference you'll be using but for example, with 225/55R17 you'll get 47Mph in 6th
f40 trans
Garret is a real smart guy
I would put the radiator in the front
Thats gonna be a absolute beast!!!
Love this channel man, keep it up.!!
are you still doing this ????