Olympic Champion Gold Medal Mel Stewart and Coleman Hodges have an open and honest conversation about the comments Cate Campbell recently made on an Australian morning talk show.
I thouroughly enjoyed this conversation. Before I jumped into it I thought: "Ok, let's hear the two Americans trashing Cate Campbell for her words". In the end, it turned out to be an extremely detached, non-partisan, commonsensical and mature approach to a topic that less interesting people would easily have used to stir the Aussie-US rivalry to boiling heights. Congratulations, gentlemen!
(This is Mel) I've competed in Australia, and I have friends living there now. We're aware that morning show is intended to be fun and lighthearted. Also, we know Cate from her travels to The States going back to when she was 16 years old. Personally, I think rivalry is a gift to the sport and should be engaged. Australia has towering talent, and Team USA is fighting for podium position right now--with France, Australia, China, The UK and other great swimming nations. Paris2024 will be fun.
Aussies are renowned for their banter to stir the pot, but will always go for a beer with the opposition after the competition no matter who wins. So don't take what Cate said to heart just give it back Next thing you will see is everyone laughing their heads off. 😂👍
I’m not surprised that these words came out of Cate’s mouth. She has a track record of saying words directed at US with that kind of energy. I still like Cate as a swimmer and a person. I also think Australia media likes to stir the pot too. I rather have her speak her truth in the way she chooses than listen to some fake cliche answer that I usually hear from swimming athletes. All that being said, Cate might’ve put some bad voodoo on team Australia knowing there’s going to be added pressure on them to perform well knowing that we’re Definetly going to come out to Paris ready to make a statement. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪🏽
What is the scoring system? For example, a gold is worth 3 points, silver 2 points, and bronze one point. Calculate every country’s score at the end of the meet based on their medal count and rank it based on that?
I don't know exactly, and I can't find that report (among the 500+ from the event). I didn't find this: swimswam.com/what-happens-if-you-score-worlds-as-a-team-meet-full-aqua-team-trophy-scoring/
I always prefer international feeds and commentary when watching sports. Knowing how abc used to cover international competitors vs the NBC USA jingoism is saddening. I want to know about talent and excellence in sport not just the journey of usa athlete coming in fourth. I wish the aquatics competition was on youtube with the international broadcasters like the 2022 Budapest championships.
@@SwimSwamTVthis time round BBC did not cover the world championships at all. The only cover was on BBC internet about Matt Richard winning 200 m freestyle and 4x200 m. May be with others sports (ladies soccer) we did not have enough money to buy that from the US broadcasters. I watched a Russian TH-cam channel that covered every heat, semi and finals as well as medal ceremonies.
As a Canadian that was visiting the US during Worlds, this was very evident. The broadcast from Budapest was brilliant. I had the stream on for a majority of the competition, even for events that I normally don't watch. IMO-this is how we grow an audience.
@@houtansadeghi I've past Olympic coverage on BBC and thoroughly loved it! Regarding UK right for World Champs, I'm 90% sure - my opinion - World Aquatics (aka FINA) was asking for a steep rate. That's a guess. I haven't confirmed it, but it's big oversight not having WCs coverage in the UK.
You really shouldn't be surprised by people not loving USA chants you win so much so for them to change medal count pretty ordinary Cate is a competitor and was having fun Aussies aren't scared to say what they think you seem like good fellas 👍
Mel, Coleman not all us Aussies feel that way. 😁 I get she was hamming it up, but watching Cate say this I cringed and it was a bit off… I love USA swimming as a proud Aussie swim nerd, and will always root for my Country but respect and love USA’s past/present and future swim talents. We’re not all bad over here😂😉 Much love from Brisbane 🇦🇺 ❤ 🇺🇸
...one of the reporters did, and it was odd considering Bowman coaches so many Olympic medalist from allover the world. BUT, this show is meant to be fun and lighthearted. They were certainly playing it up!
@@SwimSwamTV Yes he did, but that guy is a tool, and I doubt he knows anything about swimming. The show is a meal for the masses, I would take any segment like this on that show with a grain of salt,
Americans don’t get Australian humour 😂 Funny how it was ok for Canadian commentators on air to say they are sick of the Australian anthem at this meet without any complaints from Australians
There are other opportunities in the USA than sports. After age 15 there is a large drop off in participation in all sports. That the USA wins any medals in any sport unfathomable. Soon many will find out that going to college is a waste of money and more guys will go for jobs in the trades. Trade schools don't have sports teams. Americans will have to get swimmers from high school teams or master swimmers. After competing today in college , a swimmer is so far behind people his age who are earning good income.High school swimmers from the USA competing against 24 - 28 year old state "amateurs" from Australia and Europe and Asia.
Only Michael Phelps and Katie Ledecky can make any money in swimming today. Maybe Rowdy Gaines can make some money as a commentator every 4 years for the Olympics and the world championship. Do the Aussie swimmers get jobs doing commercials in Australia? Most swimmers in the USA are unknown after the Olympics. Many people don't watch the Olympics anymore. I don't remember watching any from the last winter Olympics. I'm tired of watching Aussies win in swimming and Jamaicans winning in track. OK in those countries sports is "the opiate of the masses". Sort of like "bread and circuses" in Rome in ancient days. Maybe there isn't much to do in Australia at a pool other than swimming. I go in the pool to cool off and maybe do some stretches and move around. Then I go to the hot tub (jacuzzi). Now jacuzzi sitting is my kind of sport. Sometimes I also play catch with a nerf ball or pool toy. Swimming laps is WORK!
...swimming leads the telecast of the Olympics and commands the largest audience. It's why there is going to be a 9th day of swimming at the Paris2024 Olympic Games (up from 8 days). You can watch from your jacuzzi since that's your chosen sport. I may do the same (this is Mel, btw). Swimmers and $$$? Surprisingly the top 30 elite globally do make good coin. At one point the top 10 swimmer were all making over a million per year with race winnings, sponsorships and some national gov body support.
STOP HATING AND START CONGRATULATING So many Americans have beaten you Aussie Asses throughout the years even I felt bad for you guys. Ian Thorpe is the only one you blokes can truly brag about
Coleman did you hear what I heard? She absolutely ripped the national anthem , ripped team USA cheering their swimmers to the ready room. Australia clearly won the meet. Cate Campbell is the. Biggest choker of all time. Rio Simone /Penny. You two are out if your minds.
Upsetting to see how this has been blown out of proportion recently after Phelps reacted to it. The vile comments on Cate's retirement post from ignorant Americans is so disappointing. Most of them probably watch the swimming once every four years so not tarnishing all Americans with this brush, just hope someone steps up and stops the onslaught that Cate is receiving right now.
@@jacquelinerussell8530 Better get yourself a pair of glasses then! All i was saying was that the nasty American's in Cate Campbell's comment section need to reevaluate their lives instead of bullying someone for some light-hearted comments made 10 months ago
@matthewschultz9551 You have it turned around it was Cate who didn't even make the cut for the Paris Olympics who was bullying us Americans. Karma's a B@tch.
And no, I don't appreciate the population disparity. Success is not based on population size, but national passions. If population was dispositive, India and China would be leading everything. This population talking point the Aussies trot out is illogical nonsense. The USMNT has not won a world cup despite our country size. On the other hand, tiny Jamaica produces exceptional sprinters. Unlike some countries, we do not have a singular or dominant national sport. We are good at many things, & it is not simply down to our size.
I agree that national passion and quality of the national program is a bigger factor but of course both are factors. A larger population is still a big advantage. But what's more important than the population itself is size of available population. In the US, many parents support sports programs for kids, in countries like China and India, that percentage is much much smaller. So the actual size of the talent pool to draw from in those countries is not necessarily bigger despite huge populations.
@@panner11 No, a larger population is not a big advantage if the country is not focused on the sport. On what basis are you contending there is less support for sports by parents in India and China? In China, there is clear state sponsorship and pushing of sports, so this claim sounds utterly baseless. What % of each country's population is "available for sport?"
When it comes to Swimming everyone wants to beat the Yanks. The best gold we Brits get in the 4X200m relay as we know that in that event we have more depth then the US and Australia Its a tongue in check joke which both of you guys knew exactly what it was nothing too serious.
I like Cate Campbell but she has choked so many times in big events. She shouldn’t be talking because she wasn’t even there. She’s putting undo pressure on her teammates who actually got it done.
@@SwimSwamTV You gotta be kidding me lol. you will not speak like that about someone if you really "respect them" c'mon! lol nice try..... Any ways Go USA ♥
Spoiled and entitled sums up the US team. Participation trophies and being told that you are special didn’t do anyone any favors. Being able to handle loss and deal with adversity are necessary life skills. Life is tougher for most people than it ever will be for this team. “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” We have “first world problems” and aren’t facing any real adversity so people are inventing problems due to a real lack of meaning in life. This has been exacerbated by so many people not raising children. Too many younger people also want a good living handed to them without wanting to bust their butts to get there. We have a skilled economy now and isn’t like it used to be where you could make a good living without skills. People are breaking the doors down to get into this country so if you’re complaining about how hard you have it, go to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central America and then you can realize how great we have it here. This is the only country where the opportunity is there to be successful if you step out of your comfort zone and go to the ends of the earth to develop skills.
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I thouroughly enjoyed this conversation. Before I jumped into it I thought: "Ok, let's hear the two Americans trashing Cate Campbell for her words". In the end, it turned out to be an extremely detached, non-partisan, commonsensical and mature approach to a topic that less interesting people would easily have used to stir the Aussie-US rivalry to boiling heights. Congratulations, gentlemen!
(This is Mel) I've competed in Australia, and I have friends living there now. We're aware that morning show is intended to be fun and lighthearted. Also, we know Cate from her travels to The States going back to when she was 16 years old. Personally, I think rivalry is a gift to the sport and should be engaged. Australia has towering talent, and Team USA is fighting for podium position right now--with France, Australia, China, The UK and other great swimming nations. Paris2024 will be fun.
Aussies are renowned for their banter to stir the pot, but will always go for a beer with the opposition after the competition no matter who wins. So don't take what Cate said to heart just give it back Next thing you will see is everyone laughing their heads off. 😂👍
I’m not surprised that these words came out of Cate’s mouth. She has a track record of saying words directed at US with that kind of energy. I still like Cate as a swimmer and a person. I also think Australia media likes to stir the pot too. I rather have her speak her truth in the way she chooses than listen to some fake cliche answer that I usually hear from swimming athletes. All that being said, Cate might’ve put some bad voodoo on team Australia knowing there’s going to be added pressure on them to perform well knowing that we’re Definetly going to come out to Paris ready to make a statement. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪🏽
That’s just rivalry. I like it. That’s what sports are about, regardless of the discipline.
Now I won't miss any competitions! What a thriller! I love it!
I remember in 1972 the Americans were wearing t shirts all that glitters is not Gould lol
This is good for swimming. Great to have a rivalry like this.
What is the scoring system? For example, a gold is worth 3 points, silver 2 points, and bronze one point. Calculate every country’s score at the end of the meet based on their medal count and rank it based on that?
I don't know exactly, and I can't find that report (among the 500+ from the event). I didn't find this: swimswam.com/what-happens-if-you-score-worlds-as-a-team-meet-full-aqua-team-trophy-scoring/
I always prefer international feeds and commentary when watching sports. Knowing how abc used to cover international competitors vs the NBC USA jingoism is saddening. I want to know about talent and excellence in sport not just the journey of usa athlete coming in fourth. I wish the aquatics competition was on youtube with the international broadcasters like the 2022 Budapest championships.
(This is Mel) I watch BBC (UK) and NBC (US) to get a flavor of both, but BBC really does a great job IMO.
@@SwimSwamTVthis time round BBC did not cover the world championships at all. The only cover was on BBC internet about Matt Richard winning 200 m freestyle and 4x200 m. May be with others sports (ladies soccer) we did not have enough money to buy that from the US broadcasters. I watched a Russian TH-cam channel that covered every heat, semi and finals as well as medal ceremonies.
Thomas Ceccon channel via Rai Sport was also useful.
As a Canadian that was visiting the US during Worlds, this was very evident. The broadcast from Budapest was brilliant. I had the stream on for a majority of the competition, even for events that I normally don't watch. IMO-this is how we grow an audience.
@@houtansadeghi I've past Olympic coverage on BBC and thoroughly loved it! Regarding UK right for World Champs, I'm 90% sure - my opinion - World Aquatics (aka FINA) was asking for a steep rate. That's a guess. I haven't confirmed it, but it's big oversight not having WCs coverage in the UK.
She spoke her truth, quit making excuses for her
If people want to respond, she has to take it
the rivarly began in 1956 when australia smashed the us like guitars in the medal tally
Anything in this century?? Lol
.......true (and, if anyone cares, SPEEDO, the iconic racing swimsuit, was started in Australia)
I like trash talk
She meant it clearly. All good. Let’s rock in Paris.
Love it.
You really shouldn't be surprised by people not loving USA chants you win so much so for them to change medal count pretty ordinary
Cate is a competitor and was having fun
Aussies aren't scared to say what they think
you seem like good fellas 👍
What if that happens to US team？ It's just like China rising. What a shame.😑
With 10 times Australias population, we should have 10 times as many medals.
Mel, Coleman not all us Aussies feel that way. 😁 I get she was hamming it up, but watching Cate say this I cringed and it was a bit off…
I love USA swimming as a proud Aussie swim nerd, and will always root for my Country but respect and love USA’s past/present and future swim talents.
We’re not all bad over here😂😉
Much love from Brisbane 🇦🇺 ❤ 🇺🇸
We need to start cheering and going to media explaining our excitement every time we don’t hear AAF 😂😂😂
CRICKETS from Cate Campbell when Simone Manuel tapped her AZZ as well as her little sister Bronte in TOKYO 2020
The more cow bells, the more it will fire up the Aussies big time!!🤣🇦🇺🏊💪🎯🇺🇲🐮
We are the largest island in the World. Your taught to swim very early on. Of course we have some if not the best swimmers in the World.
😂
Didnt the reporter disrespect Bowman in another segment?
He is a dickhead and the show is trash. I'm Aussie and I know Bowman is a great coach
...one of the reporters did, and it was odd considering Bowman coaches so many Olympic medalist from allover the world. BUT, this show is meant to be fun and lighthearted. They were certainly playing it up!
@@SwimSwamTV Yes he did, but that guy is a tool, and I doubt he knows anything about swimming. The show is a meal for the masses, I would take any segment like this on that show with a grain of salt,
its not a joke, she is serious,come on guys. anyway the coming olympic u show then u.s.
USA! USA!
I think you mean COWBELL USA COWBELL USA...
Americans don’t get Australian humour 😂
Funny how it was ok for Canadian commentators on air to say they are sick of the Australian anthem at this meet without any complaints from Australians
...did that happened? I missed that....
And you clearly don't get american humor either. 💀
There are other opportunities in the USA than sports. After age 15 there is a large drop off in participation in all sports. That the USA wins any medals in any sport unfathomable. Soon many will find out that going to college is a waste of money and more guys will go for jobs in the trades. Trade schools don't have sports teams. Americans will have to get swimmers from high school teams or master swimmers. After competing today in college , a swimmer is so far behind people his age who are earning good income.High school swimmers from the USA competing against 24 - 28 year old state "amateurs" from Australia and Europe and Asia.
seems like they were being sarcastic lmao 😂... Why are y'all mad
...truth
@@SwimSwamTVYou mean how you've interpreted it?
Truth hurts 😂🇦🇺🇦🇺💯
Only Michael Phelps and Katie Ledecky can make any money in swimming today. Maybe Rowdy Gaines can make some money as a commentator every 4 years for the Olympics and the world championship. Do the Aussie swimmers get jobs doing commercials in Australia? Most swimmers in the USA are unknown after the Olympics. Many people don't watch the Olympics anymore. I don't remember watching any from the last winter Olympics. I'm tired of watching Aussies win in swimming and Jamaicans winning in track. OK in those countries sports is "the opiate of the masses". Sort of like "bread and circuses" in Rome in ancient days. Maybe there isn't much to do in Australia at a pool other than swimming. I go in the pool to cool off and maybe do some stretches and move around. Then I go to the hot tub (jacuzzi). Now jacuzzi sitting is my kind of sport. Sometimes I also play catch with a nerf ball or pool toy. Swimming laps is WORK!
...swimming leads the telecast of the Olympics and commands the largest audience. It's why there is going to be a 9th day of swimming at the Paris2024 Olympic Games (up from 8 days). You can watch from your jacuzzi since that's your chosen sport. I may do the same (this is Mel, btw). Swimmers and $$$? Surprisingly the top 30 elite globally do make good coin. At one point the top 10 swimmer were all making over a million per year with race winnings, sponsorships and some national gov body support.
STOP HATING AND START CONGRATULATING So many Americans have beaten you Aussie Asses throughout the years even I felt bad for you guys. Ian Thorpe is the only one you blokes can truly brag about
W Take
Coleman did you hear what I heard? She absolutely ripped the national anthem , ripped team USA cheering their swimmers to the ready room. Australia clearly won the meet. Cate Campbell is the. Biggest choker of all time. Rio
Simone /Penny.
You two are out if your minds.
And you're still a sore loser. 😂
Leah Thomas would smoke this fool!
Who's that
@@trevorclark5138 don’t you mean will Thomas
Upsetting to see how this has been blown out of proportion recently after Phelps reacted to it. The vile comments on Cate's retirement post from ignorant Americans is so disappointing. Most of them probably watch the swimming once every four years so not tarnishing all Americans with this brush, just hope someone steps up and stops the onslaught that Cate is receiving right now.
The Olympics for swimming truly started in 1912 I believe Count the US Medals won all way up to now between Us and Australia Nuff said I'm done
@@jacquelinerussell8530 Did I mention anything about medals or claiming Australia was better than the US? Take a chill pill
@matthewschultz9551 No, you didn't. I just read between the lines🤪
@@jacquelinerussell8530 Better get yourself a pair of glasses then! All i was saying was that the nasty American's in Cate Campbell's comment section need to reevaluate their lives instead of bullying someone for some light-hearted comments made 10 months ago
@matthewschultz9551 You have it turned around it was Cate who didn't even make the cut for the Paris Olympics who was bullying us Americans. Karma's a B@tch.
And no, I don't appreciate the population disparity. Success is not based on population size, but national passions. If population was dispositive, India and China would be leading everything. This population talking point the Aussies trot out is illogical nonsense. The USMNT has not won a world cup despite our country size. On the other hand, tiny Jamaica produces exceptional sprinters. Unlike some countries, we do not have a singular or dominant national sport. We are good at many things, & it is not simply down to our size.
large populations feeding into a sport matters. Of course smaller nations have the benefit of more focus and development.
I agree that national passion and quality of the national program is a bigger factor but of course both are factors. A larger population is still a big advantage. But what's more important than the population itself is size of available population. In the US, many parents support sports programs for kids, in countries like China and India, that percentage is much much smaller. So the actual size of the talent pool to draw from in those countries is not necessarily bigger despite huge populations.
What are your chances of winning the lottery if you bet 20 times (say, in a given year) as opposed to betting 300 times...?
@@SwimSwamTV *Any* population feeding any sport matters, not just large countries. We see this fact borne out in countries of all sizes.
@@panner11 No, a larger population is not a big advantage if the country is not focused on the sport. On what basis are you contending there is less support for sports by parents in India and China? In China, there is clear state sponsorship and pushing of sports, so this claim sounds utterly baseless. What % of each country's population is "available for sport?"
When it comes to Swimming everyone wants to beat the Yanks. The best gold we Brits get in the 4X200m relay as we know that in that event we have more depth then the US and Australia
Its a tongue in check joke which both of you guys knew exactly what it was nothing too serious.
Wow imagine being that triggered by another country
Karma! Lol
More cowbell!
I like Cate Campbell but she has choked so many times in big events. She shouldn’t be talking because she wasn’t even there. She’s putting undo pressure on her teammates who actually got it done.
She was joking fooled you all, totally taken out of context
She's always trash talking team USA she didn't even make the team
She really said what's in her heart huh? now she says she respect the US Athletes..... BULLS........T
You can respect competitors and hate losing to them.
I sensed sarcasm in that interview.. how are y'all offended? Geez
@@SwimSwamTV You gotta be kidding me lol. you will not speak like that about someone if you really "respect them" c'mon! lol nice try..... Any ways Go USA ♥
Spoiled and entitled sums up the US team. Participation trophies and being told that you are special didn’t do anyone any favors. Being able to handle loss and deal with adversity are necessary life skills. Life is tougher for most people than it ever will be for this team. “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” We have “first world problems” and aren’t facing any real adversity so people are inventing problems due to a real lack of meaning in life. This has been exacerbated by so many people not raising children. Too many younger people also want a good living handed to them without wanting to bust their butts to get there. We have a skilled economy now and isn’t like it used to be where you could make a good living without skills. People are breaking the doors down to get into this country so if you’re complaining about how hard you have it, go to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central America and then you can realize how great we have it here. This is the only country where the opportunity is there to be successful if you step out of your comfort zone and go to the ends of the earth to develop skills.
Cry about it lmfao