Just as a suggestion. Not everyone has that kind of cash to blow on a chrono. However, there's bags of quality to be had for less and a brilliant and beautifully designed watch that comes to mind is the Sinn 103 St Sa Classic Pilot Chrono. Unbelievably cool wrist presence, tough as old boots and the kind of price a good tool watch should retail at - if it weren't for the current nuttiness out there. Could you kindly look into reviewing one of those bad boys please. Peace and love ✌️
The dial layout, case design and finishing really is perfect. A serious pause for thought for a one watch collection and from a criminally underrated brand in Jaeger-LeCoultre. I rushed to get this a year ago and never looked back. I've owned Daytona's, they're great, but when it comes to the value you get in watchingmaking, a Daytona realistically available only on the grey market at £30-35k vs this fairly available at retail £13k? It isn't even a fight.
My grandpa had a White dial zenith from the mid 90s until he passed in 2003. I have a soft spot for the Daytona but totally agree that this is a far better example of fine watchmaking.
@@rey_s90 can’t say I’ve ever noticed/been bothered, but aware most chrono moon phases have second hands that overlap the moon phase. Can always keep the chrono running so it’s moving?
I like to watch spot when I'm out and about, and I generally make it a point to compliment people's watches if/when I get the chance to. One thing I've noticed is that people with the more popular brands (Rolex and Omega) simply say thanks and move on with their lives. Which is fair, it's only a watch and not everyone cares as much as we do. But every now and then, when the stars align and there's a blue corn moon, I'll encounter someone with a JLC. And when I complement it, their eyes light up, they glance at my wrist, notice that I also like watches, and a whole conversation ensues. It's a great way to meet people with similar interests, as long as you don't look shady and they don't think you'll try to mug them lol
I agree, esp about ones with the popular brands/models. Re the not so common, I recently saw a Patek World Time yellow gold without knowing what it was, complimented the owner about his watch and he was genuinely happy and even let me try it on without me asking. It was only later that I found out that it costs c. $135,000. Down to earth, cool gent with a beautiful watch.
A couple of years ago I told the cashier at a restaurant that I liked his AP Royal Oak,. His face lit up with joy and proceeded to have a chat for about a few minutes about watches and the AD that he had bought his watch from. I am guessing that the general public did not recognise his Royal Oak.
@@EddyWoon that's actually really funny because that happened to me yesterday. Bumped into a guy wearing a royal oak at a coffee shop. Complimented his watch and we had a whole conversation. I mentioned I wanted a VC Overseas and he gave his nod of approval saying it's a true enthusiast brand because most normal people don't know about it. Nice guy, I regret not asking for his name
I've owned a JLC Master Control and all I can say is.. It's on Patek/Vacheron/AP level in all aspects besides the finish of the movement. At a fraction of the price. It's serious value for those who value true horology and craftsmanship instead of paying 4 x retail price for an overhyped watch that isn't worth it's price and which makes grey market dealers millionaires. With you being their willing sponsor...
@@champstation143 I would say it could be on a patk/ vc level, but it doesn't have what it takes that's the problem with jlc. a patek is a patek, it has the patek charm and the signature "stealth rich" language patek is so renowned for same with vc, vc watches are distinct with their wild and daring, traditionally executed designs. if you love vc you know exactly why you love it jlc has... nothing. its plain, its perfectly executed canvas. but it has nothing to elevate it above that empty perfection pit its in
A great and yes somewhat underrated watchmaker. But that can be said about Breguet, Blancpain, Girard Perregeaux and many others. JLC’s mistake is having sat on the “watchmaker’s watchmaker” stigma and its Reverso for too long. Yes, they can continue producing quadruple Gyro moonphase perpetual calendar minute repeater toubillon Reversos or maybe try to come up with something bold and new! You can see the old boys struggling in light of the independents. Maybe the new VC Traditionelle Complete open face has a shot but if it does, it’s one of very few bolder new styles from the big boys. AP’s 11.59 hasn’t exactly rocked the boat and PP has not come out with anything new. No wonder that FPJ, Moser, MBF et al are now the watches people want. A JLC Master vs a H. Moser centre seconds at the same price? I know what I would choose.
I have a Rolex Submariner that I inherited from my father, so to me that piece is priceless. I would not go out of my way to buy a Rolex, especially at todays bloated prices. JLC has always created art on your wrist, the fact they have created for and influenced the, holy trinity of watchmaking (AP, Patek and Vacheron) over the years is a huge statement and credit due. Its one of those brands that if you know, you know. Its more of a smile and knowing nod than a scream and shout.
My 1st "branded" watch is a Jaeger LeCoultre master control which I brought to reward myself on my birthday. Love it, the finishing is exquisite. Now I am saving up for the Reverso. Their customer care and retail staffs service are top notch too.
That’s the point, I was mug on Spain and lost my J L C and lucky my insurance paid out. Immediately ordered a new one, the same. Love the watch it’s not in your face look at me Rolex is so gypsy look at me.
The main reason people by a Dayton with the intension to keep it is because it is the watch the most likely other people will know the price tag and difficulty to get one.
@@simonrano8072 You should try to develop a personal friendship with your AD. My AD is a personal friend of mine and he will provide me with a Daytona or a GMT with two-year intervalls for the foreseeable future. That means that I can wear my Daytona or a GMT and sell them on for a 100-150% return when the next watch is ready. I plan on doing this for 10 years and I will simultaniously let the returns from all of my sales lay dormant in a mid-risk index fund during this period as well. I'm 24 now and I expect to have around 130-150k by 34 to spend on a few luxury watches that I'll then keep and pass down to my future kids. I will essentially have acquired my luxury watch collection for free. So it could be worth the effort if your AD isn't the most unbearable guy around.
In my opinion JLC is the most underrated brand by a long way, and a part of me loves that because it stays special by being removed from all the hype. Fantastic message at the end as well! Taking the time to develop personal taste and buy things for that reason is arguably the best part of this hobby and it really has gotten lost along the way.
I would add a few more underrated brands ahead of JLC, which, though perhaps not as much as the trinity or some independents, still has a sizeable following. I think Breguet, Blancpain and Girard Perregeaux all make phenomenal timepieces but don’t get half the recognition they deserve…and a lot less than JLC.
@@ingwentsai3929 Assuming you have had personal experiences with the brand, I am sorry you have had poor experiences. If your comment is just an opinion you are entitled to it but I would disagree. I have the current Master Control Date and the updated movement is great! My watch has an accuracy of +1.5 seconds per day since I purchased it March of 2021. JLC does not saturate the market with advertising but for watch enthusiasts they are well known.
I’m more in the Seiko/Citizen/Casio buying range, but , oh my….. this is a beautiful timepiece. Maybe if I save up for a couple of years, I could and will be a wrist home for that jewel. 🇨🇦👍
Nothing wrong with the Seiko, Citizen or Casios either! I've got a Seiko and a Grand Seiko in my collection, as well a Citizen Eco-Drive Blue Angels edition...and they are all fantastic watches! Currently I'm jonesing for a retro Citizen Automatic Bullhead with leather strap like Brad Pitt wore in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood...but can't seem to find any nice examples atm. There IS the Detroit Mint though, that makes it's own version with is VERY tempting at just $499 USD!
Seiko SKX009 and Casio Oak are 2 beautiful watches I'm looking to buy in to my collection. I have a Seamaster 300m, Rado and Breitling Navitimer (comparativelyvery expensive), yet I can appreciate beauty and quality regardless of price.
I’ve owned one of these since mid 2021 when it landed to an AD. It keeps me mesmerized with the detail and its qcraftmanship. I even purchased genuine blue croco strap for it.
Man, this is a thing of beauty! To me, while Rolex makes great watches, they're really selling in great numbers because of great marketing campaigns aimed towards people looking for a watch that shout's "I've arrived, and I have a great level of disposable income." But for those that don't feel the need to be conspicuous and appreciate high horology, there are brands that are equal and surpass Rolex. It's like being part of a secret society, when you pass someone and recognize their watch conveys quiet luxury!
Was never that fascinated with the Daytona. Too simple. That’s why I wear an Omega Mark 4.5, caliber 1045. It has more useful functions such as day & date and 24 hour dial. The JLC featured in this video could easily find a place on my wrist. Very well thought out in every detail.
There are thousands of watches that are better than a Daytona. Yet, appreciation or at least no major depreciation does play some role in at least my buying decision. I have many watches that I bought purely because I love the aesthetic, the movement or complexity, regardless whether they appreciate or not. At the same time, I believe that a collection should ultimately increase in value when looked at it in its entirety.
@@maengel071 My Omega 1045 was $650.00 when I bought it new in 1982. Today I see it going for $3000.00, or higher, pre-owned. Not as near a mark up as a Daytona, but still considerable. But that doesn’t do me any good as I would never let go of it. Maybe whoever aquires it after my days are done will take advantage of the value increase.
I won’t lie I know nothing about watches, I’m fairly new to them and this channel is a big reason for my recent fascination with them, the quality of these videos are second to none. The videography, the close up shots, the camera movement, the clarity is unbelievable and if I’m honest it’s why I’ve found a love for watches. Bring the behind the scenes videos asap.
I have one and it is hands down my favorite watch that I own. I love it even more than my JLC Duoface. The symmetry is perfect and the way they did the date makes it so they don't take away from the dial with a misplaced date window.
I keep reminding myself that High quality watch makers didn't set out to be challenged by the Rolex brand! Oh, this JLC is everything a Real watch will be and can be! Awesome Video.... the music is spot on!
I don’t know. My wife bought me a lovely Girard Perregaux, simple chrono with a date only, which I’ve never seen on another wrist, from one of the oldest manufactures in Switzerland and it was a nice chunk under $10k. It’s a beautiful face, perfect proportions…and the best bracelet I’ve ever had on my wrist.
Only one ultimate chronograph, the Speedmaster...for £15k I'd get one of those & a new Triumph 🏍️😉 This JLC is exquisite tho, leagues above the Daytona imho. Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
Apart from going into (for me), the unobtainable realms of FP Journe, Philippe Dufour, or George Daniels, JLC is to me what watchmaking is all about. Innovation, quality, beauty, and real value. Absolutely love their timepieces ❤️
When the other day you asked about our one and only watch I immediately thought of the Lange Perpetual Chrono, but honestly I think it's a toss up with this one for me.
I like the older background music more, not too prominent but you realise its there. The moment the whole video ends just makes me realise that there was a music going on in the background which also ended with it. Unlike this one, which is too loud whenever there are no words coming from the speaker.
I love this model, understated but elegant at the same time. I would be more than happy to have this on my wrist. You could wear this at the end of the supermarket queue in a T shirt at peak times and by the time the person behind you has tried (and probably failed) to pronounce the name on the dial your shopping will be bagged and you'll be on the way home. That is unless the person behind you also appreciates watches in which case a lengthy conversation would ensue that would rather irritate the growing number of people joining the queue.
PP, AP and VC are considered the Holy Trinity of watch making. I disagree. JLC has manufactured movements for all 3 of these makers. That means, these watches are in fact JLC. JLC deserves to be in the same group of watch makers as the above mentioned brands. I have been a JLC fan for all of my many decades of watch collecting. Being first introduced to the brand when my Father gave me his 31mm gold JLC dress watch. I now own 3 JLCs and the 4th, my 2nd Reverso is on order. I own many other brands, Rolex, Sinn, Grand Seiko, Doxa, Seiko and G-Shock. My Jaeger LeCoultres are by far my most cherished of all my many watches.
This model is the best from the 3 that came out that year, but my only issue with it is the strap, it somehow looks cheap on this watch, as if it was an aftermarket strap from ali express. I would have combined it with either a high end alligator strap, or a bracelet to do this watch justice.
All these videos just make you realise how dominant Rolex has become. So many videos about Rolex options, Rolex killers etc. but try and find a single video about an Omega killer etc
If you know and appreciate watches more than the attention they might garner from other people, JLC, and this model specifically, would be an especially good choice.
I like how this channel takes Rolex down a peg from their artificiality inflated high horse. Do they make high quality watches? Yes. Are they worth their new price tags? No. Keep up the good work!
This is my grail watch. Out of stock everywhere... and now you've gone and told the world my secret. No chance of finding one now! Thanks Watchfinder. 🤦😂
There’s a saying,” those who show buy rolex, those who know buy Omega.” That Omega can be changed to any other watch maker. I’ve said it before, everyone makes a better watch than rolex. Rolex hasn’t and doesn’t manufacture a damn thing. Where are the rolex workshops and factories? Not the ones they purchased but the ones they have always own?🤔
Jaeger LeCoultre is an amazing brand, with an absolutely amazing customer service. The best thing about the Master Control line-up is that it can easily slide under the radar, I don't have to worry about getting mugged or have colleagues wonder why I'm wearing expensive watches to work.
I am happy to have just picked up my first Rolex but there are truly so many absolutely incredible brands out there. I just found out I am having a daughter I was hoping to gift my newest watch to her one day but it’s 41mm. I might have to get something else to give to her one day maybe a JLC Reverso ?
Yep - people who don’t really know about watches, only understand the marketing, which is the only thing hans Wilsdorf did himself. if I had the money JLC is what I would be wearing on my wrist.
A great brand but they need a stand out model to get people talking and something to market. In the past they had watches that opened Aston Martins, they had a watch that Navy Seals wore. Beautiful deep seas and watches that told you when your parking meter was ending. The Polaris is nice but its too big (needs to be 39/40 IMHO) and not special Zenith, another ground breaking brand of the past, have just come out of the doldrums with the lovely looking Defy range and a glam marketing campaign to go with it. JLC need a looker, a stand out, some thing for the marketeers to get stuck into. P.S. what a lovely gentle soundtrack
Jlc make Rolex look like Timex, you can buy them off the shelf “gasp” and no one rips it off your wrist, I have a number of Rolex, GMT, Sub, Yacht master, Datejust, oyster, bubbleback , but JLC are just better, i now also have 3 reverso, a Master Compressor Chrono, and a Master Control Date. Love em all and as they are not over priced and over blinged, 2nd hand very very reasonable, why they are not twice the price new and on a par with VC i haven’t a clue. Do more JLC please.
In my opinion I much prefer JLC's design language to Rolex's. Its so much cleaner, crisper, dressed up and clear - though I do prefer numerals (ideally Arabic but Roman are fine too). I'm not really a huge fan of that sport watch look (though the bracelet could also be part of that) hence why I usually give a pass to Omega, Oris etc etc. Though Omega specifically does have some nicer vintage ones that I do ogle from time to time haha. Side note I hate what Rolex has become so will never buy one. Its status symbol by the masses and Rolex's love of that smacks too much of Apple and just leaves me feeling gross. But where I hate how god aweful apple is with no redeeming attributes, I definately will give Rolex its due for its contributions to watchmaking and its quality - I just hope they don't become like apple - overpriced and crap product.
Great comments. I own a Jaeger Master Ultra Thin in rose gold and in addition to the incredible watchmaking pedigree, a lot of the appeal is that almost no one knows what I'm wearing.
Came here to like the video because it's a JLC :D I don't need to hear the reasons... For me almost any JLC is a better choice to a rather overhyped Rolex.
Note that it wears bigger than expected because of the straight flanks. The overall impression is a bit bland. The 12 o’ clock is cluttered. No need for that big 12 if you’re going to cram a tiny logo and the manufacturer’s name underneath. Just a logo would have been enough and stronger visually. Now add some colour and texture to those subdials, sculpt the flanks a little, finish the movement a bit more and maybe you’ll sell watches. Only problem, a £3k used Zenith Chronomaster T, reviewed on this channel, is still more interesting with its high-beat El Primero, smaller at 38mm, and easier to read.
Finally!!! I wondered if you were a classy chap or not! Best watch pound for pound. Hands down. Been waiting for a formal review of this. I first saw it.. I loved it. Not quite bought it yet. But very soon
I love my JlC. I can walk around with 12k on my wrist and the ave person has no idea of the prestige. With the exception of the watch enthusiasts. I plan to get another one soon
The only issue is JLC knows they have a hit on their hands so they are doing the same bs as Rolex. These are not readily available for purchase. Shame really.
JLC designs have become so staid in the last few years I can’t say I really love any of them (with the possible exception of the Polaris Mariners). I wish they’d rediscover their flair for fun sports pieces like the Master Compressor line.
JLC has been underrated for a long time for some inexplicable reason. At some point soon that will likely change and they'll be stupid on the secondary market as well.
As much as I love the old tune I felt it had an intense richness to its melody, like a quadruple chocolate brownie to the ears, this new tune just sounds so much more relaxed and I like the lighter air it gives to the video.
Naturally, Watchfinder will pander any timepiece…they sell watches. JLC is the “watchmaker to watchmakers” as I owned a couple. As a purist, Rolex tool watches are coveted because they have the most robust movements in a timeless case. I only purchase Rolex from my AD @ retail. The current JLC Polaris models are underwhelming, hence the poor sales & low resale. The prior iterations were more robust & appealing. I believe JLC should introduce a new Master Compressor 40-41mm…
I have two JLC. One is the memovox and the other one is the reserve de marche. Rolex is for sure an high end brand and quality watch maker, but in my opinion not even close to JLC. JLC is almost at the same level of audemars or patek in terms of quality
19k review, 1.5k likes and NO dislike! That’s how good looking JLC watches are, I don’t think I’ve ever seen any video on TH-cam without a single dislike. Well done Watchfinder, great work JLC
TH-cam got rid of the Dislike counter last year to protect larger corporate channels like their own from downvote-brigading. If a video has dislikes, viewers can't see how many.
The last 2 watches I wanted to round out my collection were the black JLC Moonphase and a Batman, the JLC was supposed to be next, but because the market is so nuts on Rolex right now, I felt like I had to go Bat next instead. JLC for next year, though!
Whether you still prefer the Daytona to this or not (in my opinion this is more dressy whereas the Daytona is more Sporty) this video at least says; "before you pull the trigger ... stop ... just take a look around to see what else there is before you make your decision".
Totally agree with everything you say about Jaeger-LeCoultre. They are called the watchmakers' brand for very good reasons: quality, innovation, price and eternal elegance, which - I have to agree - will probably be lost on pimps, members of the mafia, rappers, influencers and other evil creatures who would rather have a Rolex.
Watchfinder: uses new music
Everyone: Streets of London!
The old music is better
Boycott Rolex
I for one really enjoy the new music.
Please get back to old music. The track used is simply boring and out of place.
Just as a suggestion. Not everyone has that kind of cash to blow on a chrono. However, there's bags of quality to be had for less and a brilliant and beautifully designed watch that comes to mind is the Sinn 103 St Sa Classic Pilot Chrono.
Unbelievably cool wrist presence, tough as old boots and the kind of price a good tool watch should retail at - if it weren't for the current nuttiness out there.
Could you kindly look into reviewing one of those bad boys please.
Peace and love ✌️
The dial layout, case design and finishing really is perfect. A serious pause for thought for a one watch collection and from a criminally underrated brand in Jaeger-LeCoultre. I rushed to get this a year ago and never looked back. I've owned Daytona's, they're great, but when it comes to the value you get in watchingmaking, a Daytona realistically available only on the grey market at £30-35k vs this fairly available at retail £13k? It isn't even a fight.
I don’t believe it’s even a fight at 13k a piece.
My grandpa had a White dial zenith from the mid 90s until he passed in 2003. I have a soft spot for the Daytona but totally agree that this is a far better example of fine watchmaking.
As much as I like This watch I don’t like the fact the the chronograph second hand covers the moon phase part, that really bugs me!
@@rey_s90 can’t say I’ve ever noticed/been bothered, but aware most chrono moon phases have second hands that overlap the moon phase. Can always keep the chrono running so it’s moving?
cool thing is you can get one!
I’ve lost track how many times I’ve watched this video.
JLC Master Control Chronograph is just absolutely stunning.
I like to watch spot when I'm out and about, and I generally make it a point to compliment people's watches if/when I get the chance to. One thing I've noticed is that people with the more popular brands (Rolex and Omega) simply say thanks and move on with their lives. Which is fair, it's only a watch and not everyone cares as much as we do.
But every now and then, when the stars align and there's a blue corn moon, I'll encounter someone with a JLC. And when I complement it, their eyes light up, they glance at my wrist, notice that I also like watches, and a whole conversation ensues. It's a great way to meet people with similar interests, as long as you don't look shady and they don't think you'll try to mug them lol
I agree, esp about ones with the popular brands/models. Re the not so common, I recently saw a Patek World Time yellow gold without knowing what it was, complimented the owner about his watch and he was genuinely happy and even let me try it on without me asking. It was only later that I found out that it costs c. $135,000. Down to earth, cool gent with a beautiful watch.
A couple of years ago I told the cashier at a restaurant that I liked his AP Royal Oak,. His face lit up with joy and proceeded to have a chat for about a few minutes about watches and the AD that he had bought his watch from. I am guessing that the general public did not recognise his Royal Oak.
@@EddyWoon that's actually really funny because that happened to me yesterday. Bumped into a guy wearing a royal oak at a coffee shop. Complimented his watch and we had a whole conversation. I mentioned I wanted a VC Overseas and he gave his nod of approval saying it's a true enthusiast brand because most normal people don't know about it. Nice guy, I regret not asking for his name
@@EddyWoon damn that cashier makes a lot of money
"Remember when that was the reason, why we bought watches?"
That hit me hard.
I've owned a JLC Master Control and all I can say is.. It's on Patek/Vacheron/AP level in all aspects besides the finish of the movement. At a fraction of the price. It's serious value for those who value true horology and craftsmanship instead of paying 4 x retail price for an overhyped watch that isn't worth it's price and which makes grey market dealers millionaires. With you being their willing sponsor...
Well I am sure it is on a level with AP regular movement finishing. That is because AP for a long time had JLC movements ;)
@@champstation143 It's possible to make your own finish on a movement
@@champstation143 the JLC 920 that became the AP2121 is now made by AP in house. Even Vacheron bought their ebauches from AP later on.
@@champstation143 I would say it could be on a patk/ vc level, but it doesn't have what it takes
that's the problem with jlc. a patek is a patek, it has the patek charm and the signature "stealth rich" language patek is so renowned for
same with vc, vc watches are distinct with their wild and daring, traditionally executed designs. if you love vc you know exactly why you love it
jlc has... nothing. its plain, its perfectly executed canvas. but it has nothing to elevate it above that empty perfection pit its in
A great and yes somewhat underrated watchmaker. But that can be said about Breguet, Blancpain, Girard Perregeaux and many others. JLC’s mistake is having sat on the “watchmaker’s watchmaker” stigma and its Reverso for too long. Yes, they can continue producing quadruple Gyro moonphase perpetual calendar minute repeater toubillon Reversos or maybe try to come up with something bold and new! You can see the old boys struggling in light of the independents. Maybe the new VC Traditionelle Complete open face has a shot but if it does, it’s one of very few bolder new styles from the big boys. AP’s 11.59 hasn’t exactly rocked the boat and PP has not come out with anything new. No wonder that FPJ, Moser, MBF et al are now the watches people want. A JLC Master vs a H. Moser centre seconds at the same price? I know what I would choose.
I have a Rolex Submariner that I inherited from my father, so to me that piece is priceless. I would not go out of my way to buy a Rolex, especially at todays bloated prices. JLC has always created art on your wrist, the fact they have created for and influenced the, holy trinity of watchmaking (AP, Patek and Vacheron) over the years is a huge statement and credit due. Its one of those brands that if you know, you know. Its more of a smile and knowing nod than a scream and shout.
My 1st "branded" watch is a Jaeger LeCoultre master control which I brought to reward myself on my birthday. Love it, the finishing is exquisite. Now I am saving up for the Reverso. Their customer care and retail staffs service are top notch too.
Love my JLC, no one knows I’m wearing $10000 on my wrist unless you’re an enthusiast🍷
Exact reason I want one, although I do wish jlc had more bracelets over just straps
I agree 💯👍
I would know, and I would be proud of you. lol
That’s the point, I was mug on Spain and lost my J L C and lucky my insurance paid out.
Immediately ordered a new one, the same.
Love the watch it’s not in your face look at me
Rolex is so gypsy look at me.
10k does value hold up
I'd definitely go with either this or a Zenith El Primero above a Rolex Daytona everyday and twice on a Sunday.
The main reason people by a Dayton with the intension to keep it is because it is the watch the most likely other people will know the price tag and difficulty to get one.
If i was offered a Daytona and an ‘El Primero and took the zenith i would have my friend shoot me in the face
@@IsaacFigueroa8387 start by choosing your friends better 😆
@@simonrano8072 they would per my instruction lol
@@simonrano8072 You should try to develop a personal friendship with your AD.
My AD is a personal friend of mine and he will provide me with a Daytona or a GMT with two-year intervalls for the foreseeable future. That means that I can wear my Daytona or a GMT and sell them on for a 100-150% return when the next watch is ready.
I plan on doing this for 10 years and I will simultaniously let the returns from all of my sales lay dormant in a mid-risk index fund during this period as well. I'm 24 now and I expect to have around 130-150k by 34 to spend on a few luxury watches that I'll then keep and pass down to my future kids.
I will essentially have acquired my luxury watch collection for free. So it could be worth the effort if your AD isn't the most unbearable guy around.
In my opinion JLC is the most underrated brand by a long way, and a part of me loves that because it stays special by being removed from all the hype. Fantastic message at the end as well! Taking the time to develop personal taste and buy things for that reason is arguably the best part of this hobby and it really has gotten lost along the way.
Its never been underrated, it used to be a great brand, quality control and marketing fucked itself up.
I would add a few more underrated brands ahead of JLC, which, though perhaps not as much as the trinity or some independents, still has a sizeable following. I think Breguet, Blancpain and Girard Perregeaux all make phenomenal timepieces but don’t get half the recognition they deserve…and a lot less than JLC.
@@ingwentsai3929 Assuming you have had personal experiences with the brand, I am sorry you have had poor experiences. If your comment is just an opinion you are entitled to it but I would disagree. I have the current Master Control Date and the updated movement is great! My watch has an accuracy of +1.5 seconds per day since I purchased it March of 2021. JLC does not saturate the market with advertising but for watch enthusiasts they are well known.
@@watchgeek6712 after all its mass production, maybe my experience is just the odd, but it happend, too bad.
@@ingwentsai3929 "Used to be!!?"
I’m more in the Seiko/Citizen/Casio buying range, but , oh my….. this is a beautiful timepiece. Maybe if I save up for a couple of years, I could and will be a wrist home for that jewel. 🇨🇦👍
Nothing wrong with the Seiko, Citizen or Casios either! I've got a Seiko and a Grand Seiko in my collection, as well a Citizen Eco-Drive Blue Angels edition...and they are all fantastic watches! Currently I'm jonesing for a retro Citizen Automatic Bullhead with leather strap like Brad Pitt wore in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood...but can't seem to find any nice examples atm. There IS the Detroit Mint though, that makes it's own version with is VERY tempting at just $499 USD!
Seiko SKX009 and Casio Oak are 2 beautiful watches I'm looking to buy in to my collection. I have a Seamaster 300m, Rado and Breitling Navitimer (comparativelyvery expensive), yet I can appreciate beauty and quality regardless of price.
I have owned three Rolex's, but JLC is on another level. Don't own any Rolex currently and never giving up my JLC Master Dive Chrono.
BLOODY LOVE THIS! I’ve got such a soft spot for JLC. Look how much you get for your money, a brand with rich heritage, and beautiful watches!
I’ve owned one of these since mid 2021 when it landed to an AD. It keeps me mesmerized with the detail and its qcraftmanship. I even purchased genuine blue croco strap for it.
Man, this is a thing of beauty! To me, while Rolex makes great watches, they're really selling in great numbers because of great marketing campaigns aimed towards people looking for a watch that shout's "I've arrived, and I have a great level of disposable income." But for those that don't feel the need to be conspicuous and appreciate high horology, there are brands that are equal and surpass Rolex. It's like being part of a secret society, when you pass someone and recognize their watch conveys quiet luxury!
"Remember when that was the reason we bought watches."
A tear dripped down my face.
Was never that fascinated with the Daytona. Too simple. That’s why I wear an Omega Mark 4.5, caliber 1045. It has more useful functions such as day & date and 24 hour dial. The JLC featured in this video could easily find a place on my wrist. Very well thought out in every detail.
There are thousands of watches that are better than a Daytona. Yet, appreciation or at least no major depreciation does play some role in at least my buying decision. I have many watches that I bought purely because I love the aesthetic, the movement or complexity, regardless whether they appreciate or not. At the same time, I believe that a collection should ultimately increase in value when looked at it in its entirety.
@@maengel071 My Omega 1045 was $650.00 when I bought it new in 1982. Today I see it going for $3000.00, or higher, pre-owned. Not as near a mark up as a Daytona, but still considerable. But that doesn’t do me any good as I would never let go of it. Maybe whoever aquires it after my days are done will take advantage of the value increase.
I won’t lie I know nothing about watches, I’m fairly new to them and this channel is a big reason for my recent fascination with them, the quality of these videos are second to none. The videography, the close up shots, the camera movement, the clarity is unbelievable and if I’m honest it’s why I’ve found a love for watches. Bring the behind the scenes videos asap.
I have one and it is hands down my favorite watch that I own. I love it even more than my JLC Duoface. The symmetry is perfect and the way they did the date makes it so they don't take away from the dial with a misplaced date window.
You forgot to mention AP and Patek, both have used a JLC 920. The same one Vacheron used
I keep reminding myself that High quality watch makers didn't set out to be challenged by the Rolex brand! Oh, this JLC is everything a Real watch will be and can be! Awesome Video.... the music is spot on!
I don’t know. My wife bought me a lovely Girard Perregaux, simple chrono with a date only, which I’ve never seen on another wrist, from one of the oldest manufactures in Switzerland and it was a nice chunk under $10k. It’s a beautiful face, perfect proportions…and the best bracelet I’ve ever had on my wrist.
Only one ultimate chronograph, the Speedmaster...for £15k I'd get one of those & a new Triumph 🏍️😉
This JLC is exquisite tho, leagues above the Daytona imho.
Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
Apart from going into (for me), the unobtainable realms of FP Journe, Philippe Dufour, or George Daniels, JLC is to me what watchmaking is all about. Innovation, quality, beauty, and real value. Absolutely love their timepieces ❤️
When the other day you asked about our one and only watch I immediately thought of the Lange Perpetual Chrono, but honestly I think it's a toss up with this one for me.
Beautiful watch! I’d prefer JLC over Rolex any day of the week.
Who wouldn't, may I ask? They're so much better, lying in the top 3 with Patek and Vacheron
@@andreizamfira 1 million per year.
@@andreizamfira haha. Are you living under a rock?
@@EscapePlan97 whyz that...???
I like the older background music more, not too prominent but you realise its there. The moment the whole video ends just makes me realise that there was a music going on in the background which also ended with it. Unlike this one, which is too loud whenever there are no words coming from the speaker.
I love this model, understated but elegant at the same time. I would be more than happy to have this on my wrist. You could wear this at the end of the supermarket queue in a T shirt at peak times and by the time the person behind you has tried (and probably failed) to pronounce the name on the dial your shopping will be bagged and you'll be on the way home. That is unless the person behind you also appreciates watches in which case a lengthy conversation would ensue that would rather irritate the growing number of people joining the queue.
Bought a Jlc in 1989 from watches of Switzerland and the salesman said you are buying the best in this shop ...in 2022 he was spot on
PP, AP and VC are considered the Holy Trinity of watch making. I disagree. JLC has manufactured movements for all 3 of these makers. That means, these watches are in fact JLC. JLC deserves to be in the same group of watch makers as the above mentioned brands.
I have been a JLC fan for all of my many decades of watch collecting. Being first introduced to the brand when my Father gave me his 31mm gold JLC dress watch. I now own 3 JLCs and the 4th, my 2nd Reverso is on order. I own many other brands, Rolex, Sinn, Grand Seiko, Doxa, Seiko and G-Shock.
My Jaeger LeCoultres are by far my most cherished of all my many watches.
This model is the best from the 3 that came out that year, but my only issue with it is the strap, it somehow looks cheap on this watch, as if it was an aftermarket strap from ali express. I would have combined it with either a high end alligator strap, or a bracelet to do this watch justice.
What's funny is for the actual price of a Daytona Cosmograph after all the markups, you CAN get a JLC master thin ultra perpetual calendar.
All these videos just make you realise how dominant Rolex has become. So many videos about Rolex options, Rolex killers etc. but try and find a single video about an Omega killer etc
I have recently been getting into watches and there's just something about JLC's that I absolutely love.
JLC should really replace AP as the holy trinity.
If you know and appreciate watches more than the attention they might garner from other people, JLC, and this model specifically, would be an especially good choice.
I like how this channel takes Rolex down a peg from their artificiality inflated high horse. Do they make high quality watches? Yes. Are they worth their new price tags? No. Keep up the good work!
This is my grail watch. Out of stock everywhere... and now you've gone and told the world my secret. No chance of finding one now! Thanks Watchfinder. 🤦😂
yea they suck big time
Exactly what I thought when I saw this video 😄
The only reason one would choose a Rolex over this watch is because they care what other (non watch enthusiasts) think.
There’s a saying,” those who show buy rolex, those who know buy Omega.” That Omega can be changed to any other watch maker. I’ve said it before, everyone makes a better watch than rolex. Rolex hasn’t and doesn’t manufacture a damn thing. Where are the rolex workshops and factories? Not the ones they purchased but the ones they have always own?🤔
@@ES-tr5no Omega all day long for me too
Even under macro. That JLC is flawless. I love JLC watches. My next purchase will be a JLC Master Control. 🇬🇧
As much as I agree, trying to get this JLC in Canada is just as hard.
Jaeger LeCoultre is an amazing brand, with an absolutely amazing customer service. The best thing about the Master Control line-up is that it can easily slide under the radar, I don't have to worry about getting mugged or have colleagues wonder why I'm wearing expensive watches to work.
Both this and the daytona are watches I'd keep for life. They are different, but just as great in their own ways.
the dial is a little too busy. could do without the two complications on the sides.
Amazing watch and watchmaker. If you're looking for an alternative to a Daytona however, go one better and pick up a Zenith Chronosport.
I am happy to have just picked up my first Rolex but there are truly so many absolutely incredible brands out there. I just found out I am having a daughter I was hoping to gift my newest watch to her one day but it’s 41mm. I might have to get something else to give to her one day maybe a JLC Reverso ?
they invented and still make the "forever clock" ATMOS.....period. the best.
This watch is so perfectly balanced that it almost made me forget about the illegal changes in the surround music.
Yep - people who don’t really know about watches, only understand the marketing, which is the only thing hans Wilsdorf did himself. if I had the money JLC is what I would be wearing on my wrist.
Yesterday I bought my first JLC - wow, what a watch. The quality of craftsmanship is fantastic. I would call JLC as a watch for perfectionists.
Rolex can't even pronounce those complications....well said hahaha
What was the one watch Dr. Strange pulled from his case of exceptional time pieces? Why a JLC chronograph. Nuff said.
Hublot be like ," hey hey hey, what did i do". Lol
No disrespect to Rolex but JLC is at another level of artistry. This is an incredible watch, Rolex can’t hold a candle to this. My2cents
A great brand but they need a stand out model to get people talking and something to market. In the past they had watches that opened Aston Martins, they had a watch that Navy Seals wore. Beautiful deep seas and watches that told you when your parking meter was ending. The Polaris is nice but its too big (needs to be 39/40 IMHO) and not special
Zenith, another ground breaking brand of the past, have just come out of the doldrums with the lovely looking Defy range and a glam marketing campaign to go with it. JLC need a looker, a stand out, some thing for the marketeers to get stuck into.
P.S. what a lovely gentle soundtrack
Jlc make Rolex look like Timex, you can buy them off the shelf “gasp” and no one rips it off your wrist, I have a number of Rolex, GMT, Sub, Yacht master, Datejust, oyster, bubbleback , but JLC are just better, i now also have 3 reverso, a Master Compressor Chrono, and a Master Control Date. Love em all and as they are not over priced and over blinged, 2nd hand very very reasonable, why they are not twice the price new and on a par with VC i haven’t a clue. Do more JLC please.
I had a Daytona and sold it but out of the 2 I do prefer it over the JLC even if the JLC has a better movement it's just to dressy for my taste
In my opinion I much prefer JLC's design language to Rolex's. Its so much cleaner, crisper, dressed up and clear - though I do prefer numerals (ideally Arabic but Roman are fine too). I'm not really a huge fan of that sport watch look (though the bracelet could also be part of that) hence why I usually give a pass to Omega, Oris etc etc. Though Omega specifically does have some nicer vintage ones that I do ogle from time to time haha.
Side note I hate what Rolex has become so will never buy one. Its status symbol by the masses and Rolex's love of that smacks too much of Apple and just leaves me feeling gross. But where I hate how god aweful apple is with no redeeming attributes, I definately will give Rolex its due for its contributions to watchmaking and its quality - I just hope they don't become like apple - overpriced and crap product.
Great comments. I own a Jaeger Master Ultra Thin in rose gold and in addition to the incredible watchmaking pedigree, a lot of the appeal is that almost no one knows what I'm wearing.
It replaces a Rolex for a doctor who dives to 5 meters.
I’m enjoying the watch closeups and music @3:16. It gives my brain a moment to stop absorbing info from the narrator and focus on the visuals.
If you had stock of the daytona would you be doing this comparison I think not
Came here to like the video because it's a JLC :D I don't need to hear the reasons... For me almost any JLC is a better choice to a rather overhyped Rolex.
JLC Polaris Date please, Submariner alternative.
Note that it wears bigger than expected because of the straight flanks. The overall impression is a bit bland. The 12 o’ clock is cluttered. No need for that big 12 if you’re going to cram a tiny logo and the manufacturer’s name underneath. Just a logo would have been enough and stronger visually. Now add some colour and texture to those subdials, sculpt the flanks a little, finish the movement a bit more and maybe you’ll sell watches. Only problem, a £3k used Zenith Chronomaster T, reviewed on this channel, is still more interesting with its high-beat El Primero, smaller at 38mm, and easier to read.
Finally!!! I wondered if you were a classy chap or not!
Best watch pound for pound. Hands down. Been waiting for a formal review of this.
I first saw it.. I loved it. Not quite bought it yet. But very soon
Right on! My best watch is JLC Reverso!
The entire Master Control collection is handsome. Love that collection!
I had one of these on my list for an upcoming big birthday, but the recent price increase is INSANE.
accurate. jlc is going to have some low sales for the next decade.
I love my JlC. I can walk around with 12k on my wrist and the ave person has no idea of the prestige. With the exception of the watch enthusiasts. I plan to get another one soon
same here
I’m a fan of these videos, but I’m starting to roll my eyes at the number of times they start with “instead of a Rolex…”
Great narration 😃❗️
I love JLC and love this watch. Do you really think a review of it needs to mention the Rolex Daytona 25 times?
First comment? First comment! Wait what happened to the awesome intro/BGM?!?!
The only issue is JLC knows they have a hit on their hands so they are doing the same bs as Rolex. These are not readily available for purchase. Shame really.
What about the Omega Speedmaster moonphase? Could it also warrant a similar fawning over?
I will take this over the Daytona any day. A watch other watches admire.
JLC designs have become so staid in the last few years I can’t say I really love any of them (with the possible exception of the Polaris Mariners). I wish they’d rediscover their flair for fun sports pieces like the Master Compressor line.
3:58. The Daytona is also waterproof so that should be mentioned too I think.
no watch is waterproof. water resistant, yes. is the jlc not water resistant?
"It's not a drunken shout like Hublot" got me lmao
The date window gave some of the A Lange n Sohne Datograph feels on it
Old background music please!!!
JLC has been underrated for a long time for some inexplicable reason. At some point soon that will likely change and they'll be stupid on the secondary market as well.
An almost perfect watch to me! Only one defect imho: I’m one of those who would have preferred an annual calendar to a simple triple one
As much as I love the old tune I felt it had an intense richness to its melody, like a quadruple chocolate brownie to the ears, this new tune just sounds so much more relaxed and I like the lighter air it gives to the video.
Naturally, Watchfinder will pander any timepiece…they sell watches. JLC is the “watchmaker to watchmakers” as I owned a couple. As a purist, Rolex tool watches are coveted because they have the most robust movements in a timeless case. I only purchase Rolex from my AD @ retail. The current JLC Polaris models are underwhelming, hence the poor sales & low resale. The prior iterations were more robust & appealing. I believe JLC should introduce a new Master Compressor 40-41mm…
The problem isn't if I would get a Jaeger-LeCoultre over a Rolex (I most definitely would!). The problem is I still can't afford one 😅.
Forget both of them, get a Grand Seiko instead.
I have two JLC. One is the memovox and the other one is the reserve de marche. Rolex is for sure an high end brand and quality watch maker, but in my opinion not even close to JLC. JLC is almost at the same level of audemars or patek in terms of quality
19k review, 1.5k likes and NO dislike! That’s how good looking JLC watches are, I don’t think I’ve ever seen any video on TH-cam without a single dislike. Well done Watchfinder, great work JLC
TH-cam got rid of the Dislike counter last year to protect larger corporate channels like their own from downvote-brigading. If a video has dislikes, viewers can't see how many.
I see, didn’t know that 😝 but I still love JLC and watchfinder youtube channel, so two thumbs up
The thought police overlords removed downvotes because you'd be too upset if you saw them. Therefore they "fixed" it for you...
"A drunken shout like a Hublot" Perfection.
The Breitling Duo Hraph for 7000 pounds is also a shout.
Speedmaster is the best .. for me
💯! I am wearing mines right now
The last 2 watches I wanted to round out my collection were the black JLC Moonphase and a Batman, the JLC was supposed to be next, but because the market is so nuts on Rolex right now, I felt like I had to go Bat next instead. JLC for next year, though!
*Woah, what channel is this?! The music!*
Whether you still prefer the Daytona to this or not (in my opinion this is more dressy whereas the Daytona is more Sporty) this video at least says; "before you pull the trigger ... stop ... just take a look around to see what else there is before you make your decision".
“Not a drunken shout like a Hublot…”. Love it.
I'm in love.
Would love to see a comparison of JLC and GS as they might just be my favourite brands right now.
Totally agree with everything you say about Jaeger-LeCoultre. They are called the watchmakers' brand for very good reasons: quality, innovation, price and eternal elegance, which - I have to agree - will probably be lost on pimps, members of the mafia, rappers, influencers and other evil creatures who would rather have a Rolex.
I own a JLC Master Hometime. Each time i watch the movements the magic begins. no envy when i see other people’s Rolex watches.