Only think I'm not liking is the still pushing of this AI nonsense, like "AI cooling, AI networking, AI overclocking" etc. Maybe ask them what the difference is between the regular version of those things we've had for years already?
It’s the IT flavour of the month, CPU’s, graphics cards, cases, all AI ready, wtf does that mean, does that mean you can assemble a fully self aware T1000 terminator from AI ready components? It’s just a price gouge and rubbish statement like aerospace grade titanium and military grade capacitors.
Usually the 8pin connector (thats near the ATX) is usually for the USB C charge connector, if you tend to use the Front I/O to charge your devices as well with USB-C. From what Asus has claimed, is they changed the design on the Ram Pins and ultization to get more ram speeds without adding in traces that they normally add on previous generations, in order to get more ram speeds and hopefully faster post. The Only down side on the Crosshair Hero x870E is less USB I/O connector this time, compared to the x670E Crosshair Hero. So you may have to grab a USB Hub or fetch the Strix x870E in order to have a balance in USB Connectors. I can def see the sacfrice they did there, to add another Network NIC, coz i did recall more people want ASUS to add an extra Network NIC in the fourms.
The 8 pin connector next to the mobo 24 pin is for the front usb C fast charging. I’ve owned the X670E Hero since launch and it has the 6 pin for that exact reason and does nothing else. I’m curious if they made it 8 pin since that seems to be common among PSUs to keep down confusion since it uses the same cable as GPUs. The usb I/O is what stood out most to me as well. On the X670E Hero, the massive amount of USB A and USB C were one of the selling points. It was one of only few AM5 mobos that had the connections I need. If I were to get the X870E Hero, I’d lose connections and need to use hubs. Plus the X670E Hero already has 5 nvme SSD spots, the two USB 4 connections and more connections for audio. But like you said, people mentioned wanting more Ethernet connections on the Hero so I see why they added another port. But why not 10G like others have along with the 2.5G? I guess it all comes down to the bifurcation and price. If you can use all these features without messing with the others then that is nice. I know the X670E Hero has some minor ones like if you use the USB 4 then you can’t use one of the pcie 5.0 nvme. Coming from the X670E Hero though, this would actually be a downgrade for my needs.
@@eTeknixit’s a good candidate with Team group black and gold pro DDR5 ram and Cougar FV270 RGB Case … I swear I’m not shopping while I respond to this… maybe… my wallet is crying
@@ricardorocha4436 So did I, here I am 2 years later going to build a new one again😅I have come to the conclusion that it might be better to buy what you need today instead of pay for something you may or may not use in the future.
Firstly I love the ProArt lineup by Asus 🥰😳🤯😉 The Prime lineup is often well below the TUF series for VRMS and features and the VRMs being one of the worst on the market and worse value for money!🤪😢 As an ITX builder for well over a decade now, I’m looking forward to high end ITX mobo’s 🥰🙂↕🤩💪🥳
PCIE 5.0 STILL HAS LIMITATIONS.... If we install ONE VGA card only, it will run x16 ... But if we install DUAL VGA cards, it will drop the speed at x8 x8 ... And if we install ONE VGA card + NVME in PCIE mode, it will run x8 x8 also .... So, if we want to full running x16 x16, USE THE WORKSTATION MOTHERBOARD....
None of them technically have anything out as of yet. Launching September time apparently. Will be getting a lot of boards in though so lots of content coming from us.
@@eTeknix I gotcha, thanks for your message and look forward to your reviews and opinion on them. I’m not sure if you know but is there a big difference between sounds like Supremefx vs alc1220 used in gigabyte?
Literally waiting for someone to release a high end white/silver X870E micro atx (matx) under $400 but it looks there there isn't one. Such a missed opportunity with no players in the market
Not seeing debug code LEDs on most of the boards. PCIe layout on the top end means x8/x8 so if you want to use some add in cards like 10G Ethernet, capture, audio, etc, you are dropping your GPU down to x8. M2 already with a heatsink, will you have to use tape or something to hold it down, or can a regular screw still be used if the asus mechanism is removed?
x870-F is the board I'm waiting for (only because it's likely within my budget). I was about to buy the B650E-F but I think I'll just wait for the USB4 and Wifi7.
Does anyone knows how to fix , Every time i install Armoury crate my pc windows 10 Freeze . Any solutions ? I do format , clean install , reinstall nothing helps !!!
Certainly hoping we get more options this time around for MATX.. Be it Intel or AMD it's a form factor that's often lacking. The case I have set aside for a new build is an MATX case, though of course it does support ITX. I'd certainly prefer a fleshed out MATX board if I can find a good one. MATX has kinda become the disregarded middle child..
Its disappointing that they are not releasing an extreme version with 10gbe Ethernet. The pro art looks awful so I wouldn't consider that. I have an x670e extreme in my gaming pc and an x570 extreme in my work pc. I was hoping I could upgrade my work pc to an x870e extreme but I guess I will a have to check out some of the other manufacturers options for a high end good looking board with 10gbe. I purchased a 9950x on release once I seen the Linux benchmarks as my work pc runs Linux.
I quite like the ProArt, but it networking is an issue then you could always use a 10Gb card that can be carried across into all of your future upgrades
@@eTeknix I have a 10gb startech intel nic but it won't fit in my case with my bottom 360mm rad in it. Usually with these boards when you plug something into the other ports it will lower the speed of the main pcie lane also to x8 which is why I prefer the onboard nic.
I would absolutely LOVE to update my very old Maximus VI Gene to a new ROG mATX board but I guess Asus doesn't care for mATX anymore... Plus, even if they do build an ROG mATX board I bet it'd be damn near $1000 with the way prices are nowadays 🙄🙄
I wish the ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO would come with 10G like the ProArt. The ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO is the more expensive one, so why not give it 10G as well? I can't believe they will still stop at 5G at that price in 2024.
im picking up a X870E-E, i really want the crosshair hero but... it looks ugly to me, i want less shiny bits to be visable and i dont like the RGB on the IO.
@@eTeknix AMD reaches 8000MHz already on 7000 series already, just not with 1:1:1 ratio. Intel is the same story. If we will want to higher than 8000, that's where CAMM2 is our friend
0 -2 sata ports and a lot off sharing bandwidth on the m.2 slots for normal x870 motherboards is just stupid. prob x870E-E the one i need wil cost 599+ i am better of buying the x670e-A/F
Why did they made the logo 'animatrix' on most board so comical? They should realize they cater to single dads too (NO i dont want the proart/tuf line up) im a strix fan
As a SFFPC fanboy the Strix X870-I Gaming WIFI paired with a 9k series X3D cpu will be my next buys once they become available.
Just got to wait for the chips and hope they are actually decent.
@@eTeknix Yeah, until there's good news from reviewers, it's best to wait.
Only think I'm not liking is the still pushing of this AI nonsense, like "AI cooling, AI networking, AI overclocking" etc. Maybe ask them what the difference is between the regular version of those things we've had for years already?
I think AI cooling is just PWM fans lmao. As usual they slam the word "AI" to everything.
@@strider029 I suspect your spot on, but they should be asked anyway, if only to expose that.
The cafe near my work started offering an AI Sandwich. It's basically a Ham and Cheese that's prepackaged. :)
It’s complete nonsense 😅
It’s the IT flavour of the month, CPU’s, graphics cards, cases, all AI ready, wtf does that mean, does that mean you can assemble a fully self aware T1000 terminator from AI ready components? It’s just a price gouge and rubbish statement like aerospace grade titanium and military grade capacitors.
The 9800X3D that ill buy next year will need one of these boards
How much better do you think it will be over the 7800X3D?
@@eTeknix Hopefully more efficient. 7800X3D is already good. How much more good can good get
7800X3D is perfect for games
@@mfelicio1can I use it for Android studio, visual studio along with gaming or should I go with non X3D?
Usually the 8pin connector (thats near the ATX) is usually for the USB C charge connector, if you tend to use the Front I/O to charge your devices as well with USB-C.
From what Asus has claimed, is they changed the design on the Ram Pins and ultization to get more ram speeds without adding in traces that they normally add on previous generations, in order to get more ram speeds and hopefully faster post.
The Only down side on the Crosshair Hero x870E is less USB I/O connector this time, compared to the x670E Crosshair Hero. So you may have to grab a USB Hub or fetch the Strix x870E in order to have a balance in USB Connectors. I can def see the sacfrice they did there, to add another Network NIC, coz i did recall more people want ASUS to add an extra Network NIC in the fourms.
The 8 pin connector next to the mobo 24 pin is for the front usb C fast charging. I’ve owned the X670E Hero since launch and it has the 6 pin for that exact reason and does nothing else. I’m curious if they made it 8 pin since that seems to be common among PSUs to keep down confusion since it uses the same cable as GPUs.
The usb I/O is what stood out most to me as well. On the X670E Hero, the massive amount of USB A and USB C were one of the selling points. It was one of only few AM5 mobos that had the connections I need. If I were to get the X870E Hero, I’d lose connections and need to use hubs.
Plus the X670E Hero already has 5 nvme SSD spots, the two USB 4 connections and more connections for audio. But like you said, people mentioned wanting more Ethernet connections on the Hero so I see why they added another port. But why not 10G like others have along with the 2.5G?
I guess it all comes down to the bifurcation and price. If you can use all these features without messing with the others then that is nice. I know the X670E Hero has some minor ones like if you use the USB 4 then you can’t use one of the pcie 5.0 nvme.
Coming from the X670E Hero though, this would actually be a downgrade for my needs.
The ProArt i/o looks insane! Would look epic in a black/gold build!
That would looks amazing on that newcoming Phanteks case.
What would you pair it with for that build?
Yeah the ProArt will make some sexy black and gold builds... but the price will likely be ridiculously high
@@eTeknixit’s a good candidate with Team group black and gold pro DDR5 ram and Cougar FV270 RGB Case
… I swear I’m not shopping while I respond to this… maybe… my wallet is crying
Only one option in white?! I would like the Hero in white… is it coming out eventually?
Get ready to take out a loan for some of those mobos.
I'm in love with this Hero motherboard.
I really want got one.
Going to pick one up?
@@eTeknix
I'm building a PC I want to keep many years ahead, só I think a board like Hero can offer a lot of longevity. So, I'm wondering pick one.
@@ricardorocha4436 So did I, here I am 2 years later going to build a new one again😅I have come to the conclusion that it might be better to buy what you need today instead of pay for something you may or may not use in the future.
I guess BTF is dead now? That didn’t last long. The case manufacturers got behind it more than the mobo manufacturers
ASUS still have BTF, but I guess the uptake on it hasn't been as high as expected so it's only available for a few models.
@@eTeknix any btf for 870?
So I love the look of the Crosshair Hero board, though if I had it and had to pick a motherboard I would likely go with a 7950X not a 9950X for it.
I think that's what a lot of people would go with too.
Firstly I love the ProArt lineup by Asus 🥰😳🤯😉
The Prime lineup is often well below the TUF series for VRMS and features and the VRMs being one of the worst on the market and worse value for money!🤪😢
As an ITX builder for well over a decade now, I’m looking forward to high end ITX mobo’s 🥰🙂↕🤩💪🥳
PCIE 5.0 STILL HAS LIMITATIONS....
If we install ONE VGA card only, it will run x16 ...
But if we install DUAL VGA cards, it will drop the speed at x8 x8 ...
And if we install ONE VGA card + NVME in PCIE mode, it will run x8 x8 also ....
So, if we want to full running x16 x16, USE THE WORKSTATION MOTHERBOARD....
I cannot wait for the crosshair x870E Extreme version. I LOVED the X670E Extreme and am so sad I couldn’t get my hands on one
I actually asked them about an Extreme version, but was told nothing, so unsure if or when it will come out.
Do the other vendors have their MBs out as well? It would be great to have additional reviews and your opinion 👍🏽
None of them technically have anything out as of yet. Launching September time apparently. Will be getting a lot of boards in though so lots of content coming from us.
@@eTeknix I gotcha, thanks for your message and look forward to your reviews and opinion on them. I’m not sure if you know but is there a big difference between sounds like Supremefx vs alc1220 used in gigabyte?
Literally waiting for someone to release a high end white/silver X870E micro atx (matx) under $400 but it looks there there isn't one. Such a missed opportunity with no players in the market
Not seeing debug code LEDs on most of the boards. PCIe layout on the top end means x8/x8 so if you want to use some add in cards like 10G Ethernet, capture, audio, etc, you are dropping your GPU down to x8. M2 already with a heatsink, will you have to use tape or something to hold it down, or can a regular screw still be used if the asus mechanism is removed?
Most have LEDs, but not debug code ones, but I do get your point. It's a cheap addon. Doesn't look like a normal screw can be used.
what are the speculated release dates for these boards?
Towards the end of September.
x870-F is the board I'm waiting for (only because it's likely within my budget).
I was about to buy the B650E-F but I think I'll just wait for the USB4 and Wifi7.
Think you’ll use those features?
@@eTeknix Fair point. Maybe not...
Does anyone knows how to fix , Every time i install Armoury crate my pc windows 10 Freeze . Any solutions ? I do format , clean install , reinstall nothing helps !!!
When are the Intel Motherboards going to be shown?
No idea, but they will be sold on the 17th of October.
no BTF? no motherboards with the "Goldfinger" powerplug for GPUs?
i really want to build a completely clean pc with those using an AMD cpu........
Certainly hoping we get more options this time around for MATX.. Be it Intel or AMD it's a form factor that's often lacking.
The case I have set aside for a new build is an MATX case, though of course it does support ITX. I'd certainly prefer a fleshed out MATX board if I can find a good one.
MATX has kinda become the disregarded middle child..
When will these be available?
September.
Id love to have that Crosshair but I will never pay what they will most likely ask for it
Sadly no word on pricing as of yet. Guessing we have to wait a little bit longer.
Its disappointing that they are not releasing an extreme version with 10gbe Ethernet. The pro art looks awful so I wouldn't consider that. I have an x670e extreme in my gaming pc and an x570 extreme in my work pc. I was hoping I could upgrade my work pc to an x870e extreme but I guess I will a have to check out some of the other manufacturers options for a high end good looking board with 10gbe. I purchased a 9950x on release once I seen the Linux benchmarks as my work pc runs Linux.
I quite like the ProArt, but it networking is an issue then you could always use a 10Gb card that can be carried across into all of your future upgrades
@@eTeknix I have a 10gb startech intel nic but it won't fit in my case with my bottom 360mm rad in it. Usually with these boards when you plug something into the other ports it will lower the speed of the main pcie lane also to x8 which is why I prefer the onboard nic.
Prices? What do you think guys? (if you have to predict)
Price….a lot 😂
I don't think it will be too much more compared to the X600 boards to be honest.
Any mATX 870E motherboard?
I wonder if they can handle 4 sticks of memory at 6000hz this time ?
Memory controller is done on the chip, and the I/O is the same fab process as Zen 4.....so nope :D
I would absolutely LOVE to update my very old Maximus VI Gene to a new ROG mATX board but I guess Asus doesn't care for mATX anymore...
Plus, even if they do build an ROG mATX board I bet it'd be damn near $1000 with the way prices are nowadays 🙄🙄
Last time gene came after iirc so you never know.
any future eatx extreme boards?
Not that they showed us or mentioned to us.
@@eTeknix thanks
I wish the ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO would come with 10G like the ProArt. The ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO is the more expensive one, so why not give it 10G as well? I can't believe they will still stop at 5G at that price in 2024.
The hero looks amazing but the price not so amazing probably....
im picking up a X870E-E, i really want the crosshair hero but... it looks ugly to me, i want less shiny bits to be visable and i dont like the RGB on the IO.
I actually really liked it in the flesh, along with the Pro-Art and the white Strix board. To be fair, they all had something going for them.
@@eTeknix you’ve got good taste, I just want no colors, just black
Reviewers now 😄.
Reviewers after the review 🤔.
no matx, they are always overlooked
Probably see a gene board later as always.
Release Date ?
September it's looking like at the moment.
It's a bit of a bumer we aren't seeing CAMM2 ram module adoption.
I guess I'll press skip button on this generation
I think we're more likely to see that on Intel boards where we have faster speed memory etc...
@@eTeknix AMD reaches 8000MHz already on 7000 series already, just not with 1:1:1 ratio. Intel is the same story. If we will want to higher than 8000, that's where CAMM2 is our friend
I pray for anyone who buys an ASUS product and it fails on them 🙏
I am definitely loving the X870-A with the white pcb. Looks amazing.
Agreed. They've really stepped up their game on the white side of things this time around.
0 -2 sata ports and a lot off sharing bandwidth on the m.2 slots for normal x870 motherboards is just stupid. prob x870E-E the one i need wil cost 599+ i am better of buying the x670e-A/F
Why did they made the logo 'animatrix' on most board so comical? They should realize they cater to single dads too (NO i dont want the proart/tuf line up) im a strix fan
Antenna connector hardship is a joke.surely they need a professional to install it
Friends don't let friends buy Asus.
As the market leader, that seems a bit of a nothing statement.
@@eTeknix Market leader in poor after-sales service and deceptive conduct towards consumers?
You should be careful of that MoBo. They might charge you for RMA lol
All these boards are a fail with the audio connections. Wtf are they thinking???
Let me make this clear i will not purchase a new MoBo until all the connectors are on the back yes that's right on the back!!!!!!
Got a suitable case for it too?
@@eTeknix Yes i made my own case.
For Those Who Dare is such a incel quote.....
Problem with ASUS is the appalling negative warranty scam reputation
So basically nothing new. Especially if you’re coming from x670e……..so might as well save money and go with that
If you have a 650 mb no point updating especially to Asus who are just toxic
More pci express lanes, usb 4, WiFi 7 etc…
Hopefully the Extreme motherboard will be decent if it releases, because except of the white, pro art and maybe the HERO they all look ugly
Compared to their x670 series they are all ugly.
I'm a fan of Asus rog strix but I didn't buy Asus motherboard instead I brought Gigabyte Aorus master x670e, Asus rog strix x670e-e have problems