So true I had a twat in A class race with a 209 pista and he just kept brake checking at the start of the races and winning by miles he was impossible to beat and was clearly way too fast for a A class car
@@johnnykilroy9399 they did count it for specific cars like Exige. It's still very strong for A and A+, but they did make sure the top speed is much lower. Exige is great for most tracks but not the speed focused ones. I basically used the Miata for the straights and Exige for the corners once I got it.
It does, but the methodology of scoring the performance points is broken AF, for extreme condition you can cheat with ce to have money to spent money on cars and ridiculous performance setup the Ferrari is just one of a bunch.
Yeah and later in the end of the video he sold it because of it's use for cheating and showcasing it for more exploiters to come online. The irony of this is Theo made a cheating 4 hours stream video of him having $99 million money on PC. Kinda makes him a hypocrite.
I was doing the B class playlists for a vehicle challenge and ended up with one of those guys running that car in the B class races a few times. The second the first race started and he left me in the dust right off the line I was like "WHAT THE ACTUAL F*** WAS THAT?!" There were only 2 of us in the playlist and I was running the Camaro with the other guy in the Pista. Yeah, I wasnt able to finish a single race with that guy.
That was me in the golf who came 3rd in the first race, wondered why there was a purple Ferrari waiting at the line. For context I came 3rd with the default golf that you can choose at the start of online lol
Beat story mode yesterday. Tried online today. Two of these in the very first B-class race I did. I immediately knew some people knew an exploit, but without any online money, there was nothing I could do about it...
i don't understand the point of making street racing games just for them to always be dominated by the same 4 hyper/super/track cars. frustrating, removes the need for variety and fair competition.
@@oscarfunez3806 you missed the whole point. you cant win online races against people in those cars unless you have them lol. theo literally made a video on the ragera being too op.
@@jrdan2628 The car realistically is far faster. It makes sense for it to be super Hella fast. There is literally a manufacturer note stating how fast the car actually goes. They of course speed capped it. But it wouldn't make sense to further drop the top speed considering it's an expensive car to even earn. Again, y9u don't have to use the regera.
At around ~ 6:00 you're talking about fuzz testing - it's a good idea: there aren't _that_ many permutations of parts, they could entirely automate this testing
The 67 camero is kind of like this but in reverse. Put the 2L in line 4 hybrid in it with the 2 speed gearbox and all the engine upgrades make the top speed and 0-60 worse but the class keeps going up 😂
@@enterthekyuubi I don’t want the Regera though. I don’t want a car that literally everyone else will get simply because it’s overpowered. I just buy cars I genuinely like and have lots of customization. Lowkey why I’m also considering now selling the Pista.
@@GIJERRO Kinda late response but props to you for actually having fun. I'm on the same page, just buy cars i actually like and wanna customize, and after dozens of hours farming i got my hands on the bugatti...it sucks, but i love it, plus some other cars too! And when i'm yards ahead of people i slow down and let them win because no fun in no competition.
Went into this car for the first time today. The person using it waited at the finish line too. Makes it less infuriating to be up against, but still, when most speedlists only have 3 - 5 people in it sucks to have someone be 500+ yards ahead all race, even when I drive perfectly.
I had this happen, but the guy had a Foxbody Mustang versus me and one other guy. Neither of us made mistakes, but...well, we all know how B-class cars are supposed to be, and his? It was way too fast. Makes me wonder if it's not this engine/transmission combo, period.
@@NaruSanavai If he was playing on PC, he may have been cheating. I think it's pretty easy to use some public trainers and save editors on this game because I read somewhere that your save for online and multiplayer are both the same/stored locally on your console. It's why it's so easy to do the car selling glitch online, because it verifies your online inventory with the servers instead of just storing it on the cloud, and it means you can use Cheat Engine without any hitches. Borderlands has the same problem.
This literally explains it all....i was literally thinking someone hacked the game when i saw this...but stayed in the race for the fun anyway but geez...Thanks for revealing this!! LOL
@@judejohnson7821 bro did you not see scams have the "please go my dms to win 1mil dollars" now how dumb are you not knowing what's real person or a fake person and BTW real person has videos and fake one has none
I remember playing online in a b class playlist and someone in a 69 charger was zooming past my skyline every time and I was so confused. This makes a lot more sense now 😂
this is good work for the community especially because you didn't finish and let the other drivers pass ahead of you it was nice of you to make this vid great job 😄
They're taking way too long to patch this kind of glaring problem. It doesn't bode well for the longevity of the game if they can't even patch a simple problem like this
This video made me see one thing: I WANT TEH PISTA. Now before you reply let me explain: I would use the pista in b class races only to take down other pistas. Make sure they wreck at every possible opportunity to give the people who are not using op cars a fair chance
Is the Pista the only car you can do that to? I wouldn't be surprised if there were other cars that you could downgrade to classes they don't belong in.
I just got into a B-tier race with my Acura 2004 vs a Pista. When I was in the screen to pick my car, I thought the other racer was gonna use the skyline or somethin since it remained that. Only when the race started in the 1st map, then it showed a Pista lmao
Have seen people using it but not to race but to stop other people to race or drive at all through slamming them into houses and such until they break or breaking straight in front of them. Took 20 min to finish a race that i normally beat in just about 3 min when i did get into a race with them.
if there's anything i got from this vid, higher speed classes in city races looks so much more interesting to me personally than just the high speed stuff 😱
I saw a clip of this on Twitter and I was like wtf??? How is this possible, I was so freaking confused, thanks for making the video on it Theo, was wondering if you where going to make a video on it
How they missed this? Because EA doesn't give deva time to test their games. Instead the players play, complain and they patch it. I'm sure they will address this in the next 9 months
Damn, I was excited and I built a B class Skyline, the first playlist I played said that my opponent was also using a Skyline but I saw the Ferrari, I was super confused, they need to release a minor update, just to fix this issue asap, and they need to take a look at other cars as well, in case they have this issue.
Name and shame? Okay. 'juggalo2479', an Xbox player, did this against me in a B speed list, and he was so bad at driving he still almost lost 2 of the 3 races against legit B tier cars.
Now, Unbound has an even more broken class system than Forza. This Gerabox upgrade or degrade can be done on other cars as well, and THIS messes up the balance pretty hard when my Subie hatch on A+ gets destroyed by a BMW M5.
Well I think in the next NFS you should be able to tweak weight and weight distribution which plays an important role in Acceleration but yeah it's good that changing the engine ruins the car completely and needs a gearbox. But seriously this car could be awesome with a detuned DTM inline 4 Audi engine just imagine to have your hands in engines like that, that would make this car a circuit beast.
edit, it doesnt grip well at all, fully road and gripped build doesnt steers well at all in S+ even with downforce at max, beside that does this works with any engine or any parts compinaison on this particular engine with just downgrading the gearbox?
The 488 pista in heat is the second car that has constant power it always deliverys power at any range of rpm and that's why it can beat the 911 rsr I have beaten the rsr 3 times with the 488 Then the F1 came out and had also constant power
Thanks for another vid...I have played all the NFSs, and I love Unbound so much, but allowing cars like the Pista to be in lower classes as you say "Should be illegal", and B class is a fave class. There is literally no point racing against it and it ruins the game. I could easily afford a Pista, but its wrong. I hope to god they sort this in the March update. Peace out.
Another Problem is the online party. You only can create a lobby of 4 people, which is Kinda sad in my opinion. Also if you invite your party only to a playlist, it says 4/8... i mean.. why?
It is a problem when Criterion doesn't count Accelaration in class system into consideration
Its a massive problem lol. Heat kinda had this but not as bad, but its terrible now lol
So true I had a twat in A class race with a 209 pista and he just kept brake checking at the start of the races and winning by miles he was impossible to beat and was clearly way too fast for a A class car
Or how a car handles
@@johnnykilroy9399 they did count it for specific cars like Exige. It's still very strong for A and A+, but they did make sure the top speed is much lower. Exige is great for most tracks but not the speed focused ones. I basically used the Miata for the straights and Exige for the corners once I got it.
It does, but the methodology of scoring the performance points is broken AF, for extreme condition you can cheat with ce to have money to spent money on cars and ridiculous performance setup the Ferrari is just one of a bunch.
imagine just getting the game and hopping to your first online race and seeing a b class 488💀
Same in A. Killing everything.
Absolute hilarious nonsense
@@sensoeirensen But in A tier there are some playlists that completely dog on it, so just stick to those
thank fuck i actually played a B class before this shit was discovered
@@Staro69 same💀😭
fun fact: if you make a full drift build parts and setting, turn off drift entry, and turn on tcs, congrats you got an amazing drift car
Shit, I might just try this out
What's tcs
@@Nfs4lifettv search it up u bum
@@Nfs4lifettv traction control
Wait, turn on traction control? 🤔
Imma try that
Theo is an amazing man he actually let the others win instead of annihilating them
Had to be done!
I'm glad I saw this vid, cuz if I saw a Pista in a B class race I'd be confused and steamed.
@@D.E.C77 happened to me ngl I left the race lol I’m like wtf is this
Yeah and later in the end of the video he sold it because of it's use for cheating and showcasing it for more exploiters to come online. The irony of this is Theo made a cheating 4 hours stream video of him having $99 million money on PC. Kinda makes him a hypocrite.
@@fahadanwar7444 there's a difference between cheating offline and cheating online. I've finished the game on PS5, on PC I use mods.
This machine is just ridiculous
It’s name is Theo
I was doing the B class playlists for a vehicle challenge and ended up with one of those guys running that car in the B class races a few times. The second the first race started and he left me in the dust right off the line I was like "WHAT THE ACTUAL F*** WAS THAT?!" There were only 2 of us in the playlist and I was running the Camaro with the other guy in the Pista. Yeah, I wasnt able to finish a single race with that guy.
That was me in the golf who came 3rd in the first race, wondered why there was a purple Ferrari waiting at the line. For context I came 3rd with the default golf that you can choose at the start of online lol
Absolute legend
You should keep the yellow looks awesome that way.
What a legend.
Thank you for bringing attention to this. It has ruined B class racing completely.
Yea, good idea, let's ruin it even more.
@@if7dmitrij191 it'll get nerfed because the devs look online for critique
@@SmokeyOwOs let's see
It’s Godlike in A-Class too
@@DAREDEVIL503 🤡 wanna find out?
These videos always put a smile on my face lol. Love your energy panthaa ❤
Beat story mode yesterday. Tried online today. Two of these in the very first B-class race I did. I immediately knew some people knew an exploit, but without any online money, there was nothing I could do about it...
i hope they will nerf this
Same bro honestly i like the game give me a street racing feel but man these online players be op! I'm salty
With a really good car, you have a chance against it IF you're on a track with a bunch of sharp turns.
i don't understand the point of making street racing games just for them to always be dominated by the same 4 hyper/super/track cars. frustrating, removes the need for variety and fair competition.
You don't have to use those cars. It wouldn't make sense if a regera was slow AF when it's a hypercar.
@@oscarfunez3806 you missed the whole point. you cant win online races against people in those cars unless you have them lol. theo literally made a video on the ragera being too op.
@@jrdan2628 The car realistically is far faster. It makes sense for it to be super Hella fast. There is literally a manufacturer note stating how fast the car actually goes. They of course speed capped it. But it wouldn't make sense to further drop the top speed considering it's an expensive car to even earn. Again, y9u don't have to use the regera.
@@oscarfunez3806 my point is, include less cars like these in street racing games.
@@oscarfunez3806 i don't even own any of those cars bc like i said it takes the fun out
Gotta love how "win" B tier race in an online lobby is the most impossible achievement to get thanks to this car lol.
Ive spent all my money on this car just to find out that they fixed it😢
damn
Yeah, every time I see someone in a B Tier race in the Pista, I just park my car and let them do all the work while I collect some money.
At around ~ 6:00 you're talking about fuzz testing - it's a good idea: there aren't _that_ many permutations of parts, they could entirely automate this testing
Pretty ironic that there was a similar bug that happened to Forza Horizon 5 as well and it also involved changing the gearbox.
Electric cars fitted with the 4 speed trans
The 67 camero is kind of like this but in reverse. Put the 2L in line 4 hybrid in it with the 2 speed gearbox and all the engine upgrades make the top speed and 0-60 worse but the class keeps going up 😂
I literally bought the Pista not knowing it was an OP car, I didn’t even upgrade. I was going to use it for S+, I still will.
Please don't do it
If you don't have a Regera, don't bother.
@@enterthekyuubi I don’t want the Regera though. I don’t want a car that literally everyone else will get simply because it’s overpowered. I just buy cars I genuinely like and have lots of customization. Lowkey why I’m also considering now selling the Pista.
@@GIJERRO Kinda late response but props to you for actually having fun. I'm on the same page, just buy cars i actually like and wanna customize, and after dozens of hours farming i got my hands on the bugatti...it sucks, but i love it, plus some other cars too! And when i'm yards ahead of people i slow down and let them win because no fun in no competition.
flaw in the system, criterion fix this, it totally ruins the mood
ran into a few of them earlier, stucks the fun outta B class races
Props to you for the etiquette of stopping before the line 😂
Went into this car for the first time today. The person using it waited at the finish line too. Makes it less infuriating to be up against, but still, when most speedlists only have 3 - 5 people in it sucks to have someone be 500+ yards ahead all race, even when I drive perfectly.
I had this happen, but the guy had a Foxbody Mustang versus me and one other guy. Neither of us made mistakes, but...well, we all know how B-class cars are supposed to be, and his? It was way too fast. Makes me wonder if it's not this engine/transmission combo, period.
@@NaruSanavai If he was playing on PC, he may have been cheating. I think it's pretty easy to use some public trainers and save editors on this game because I read somewhere that your save for online and multiplayer are both the same/stored locally on your console. It's why it's so easy to do the car selling glitch online, because it verifies your online inventory with the servers instead of just storing it on the cloud, and it means you can use Cheat Engine without any hitches.
Borderlands has the same problem.
This literally explains it all....i was literally thinking someone hacked the game when i saw this...but stayed in the race for the fun anyway but geez...Thanks for revealing this!! LOL
I have been addicted to this game for days and I’m at 10 mill but thank you for being the best source of content for nfs
Oh nice! Appreciate the love
@@BlackPanthaablack panthaa do u still remember me for the gtr video and u said i won and i must send u my dm but i do not have your number
@@judejohnson7821 bro did you not see scams have the "please go my dms to win 1mil dollars" now how dumb are you not knowing what's real person or a fake person and BTW real person has videos and fake one has none
@@robert-qm4ce it was from black panthaa
I remember playing online in a b class playlist and someone in a 69 charger was zooming past my skyline every time and I was so confused. This makes a lot more sense now 😂
Ferrari 488 Pista with 7.0L Hemi V8 with 425hp but future DLC get 7.0L Hellephant V8 with 1000hp but no reason.
this is good work for the community especially because you didn't finish and let the other drivers pass ahead of you it was nice of you to make this vid great job 😄
Came across one last week and was so confused how a 488 Pista was classed as B, thanks for the answer haha
This is like the issue Forza horizon had with the drift transmission completly destroying a-class, a electric car thing
This is like when you bring an atom V8 to the local compact car track day simply because of the sheer size of that thing.
I'm gonna be honest, I think more needs to be addressed about the complete lack of races as well.
They're taking way too long to patch this kind of glaring problem. It doesn't bode well for the longevity of the game if they can't even patch a simple problem like this
That is just ridiculous and I also feel they need to make it to where if you put all pro parts you don't go above B class
B Class races about to be spray painted red
This video made me see one thing: I WANT TEH PISTA. Now before you reply let me explain: I would use the pista in b class races only to take down other pistas. Make sure they wreck at every possible opportunity to give the people who are not using op cars a fair chance
Is the Pista the only car you can do that to? I wouldn't be surprised if there were other cars that you could downgrade to classes they don't belong in.
RSR can go in B too.
The Acura nsx can do this too
McClaren F1
Porsche cayman gts
I also saw a Pagani yesterday in B
1:14 Theo actually hit an NPC! I can't stop laughing 🤣
I just got into a B-tier race with my Acura 2004 vs a Pista. When I was in the screen to pick my car, I thought the other racer was gonna use the skyline or somethin since it remained that. Only when the race started in the 1st map, then it showed a Pista
lmao
Theo: Hey don’t use this!
Also Theo: here’s exactly how you get this
I hope we can get some proper DLC for this game
The other problem is that top speed is unstable and acceleration is oddly dampened.
I saw the thumbnail, I knew something was up😂
The guy who beat you in every race is actually the worlds best wreckfest player with most world records🔥🔥🔥
This is like the equivalent of the Green Fury tires in The Crew 2.
One word after watching the full video: EA
At this point they're really unprofessional. How can they give upgrades that negate car performance that much?
Have seen people using it but not to race but to stop other people to race or drive at all through slamming them into houses and such until they break or breaking straight in front of them.
Took 20 min to finish a race that i normally beat in just about 3 min when i did get into a race with them.
if there's anything i got from this vid, higher speed classes in city races looks so much more interesting to me personally than just the high speed stuff 😱
gotta love buying a "full release" and end up being a QA tester....
I had a race a bit ago in B class.. maybe A class.. but we were decimated by one of these 488
I saw a clip of this on Twitter and I was like wtf??? How is this possible, I was so freaking confused, thanks for making the video on it Theo, was wondering if you where going to make a video on it
You have dignity but that other guy...
D bag until the end. 😂
Old news!
C'mon Theo keep up!
P.S. Lovew the content xD
How they missed this? Because EA doesn't give deva time to test their games. Instead the players play, complain and they patch it.
I'm sure they will address this in the next 9 months
Good race with Ferrari 488 , Theo!
They did fix this .I can't get this car to b tier
I came across this today. I was so confused on how they got it into b class 😂
lol same for me i was like wtf, i just upgraded that car fron stock S to S+ and i race one in B rofl
@@k20a_dave loll
Excellent Gameplay, Customization and Explanation Brother
Do the Chevy C10 with an S+ build next! From personal experience, that one’s…interesting 😂
6:10 "Riding the L" lol quite literally
Integra Type R enters to the chat and destroy that Pista…..👀
Damn, I was excited and I built a B class Skyline, the first playlist I played said that my opponent was also using a Skyline but I saw the Ferrari, I was super confused, they need to release a minor update, just to fix this issue asap, and they need to take a look at other cars as well, in case they have this issue.
Besides Ferrari 488 Pista, can any other S Class cars be downgraded to B Class?
Yes
Still reminding you that Theo finished NFS Heat in a stock Ferrari.
The NPCs need a nerf in easy mode on story mode. Everytime I race, I get gapped by first place npc.
Thank goodness I haven't seen a 488 in B class races 😂😂.
I'd just give up
That one kid that reminds the teacher we had homework
Name and shame? Okay. 'juggalo2479', an Xbox player, did this against me in a B speed list, and he was so bad at driving he still almost lost 2 of the 3 races against legit B tier cars.
Now, Unbound has an even more broken class system than Forza. This Gerabox upgrade or degrade can be done on other cars as well, and THIS messes up the balance pretty hard when my Subie hatch on A+ gets destroyed by a BMW M5.
Please talk about the exhaust flames so criterion can added the need for speed heat exhaust flames back
Well I think in the next NFS you should be able to tweak weight and weight distribution which plays an important role in Acceleration but yeah it's good that changing the engine ruins the car completely and needs a gearbox. But seriously this car could be awesome with a detuned DTM inline 4 Audi engine just imagine to have your hands in engines like that, that would make this car a circuit beast.
edit, it doesnt grip well at all, fully road and gripped build doesnt steers well at all in S+ even with downforce at max, beside that does this works with any engine or any parts compinaison on this particular engine with just downgrading the gearbox?
I'm gonna try the "bug" on other fast cars
Ahhhhhh, that race the other day I had makes sense now lol
This is the same thing as fh5 where raser tachyon was also in A class
This Car is a perfect machine sadly couldn't afford it in Need for Speed Heat
I had a different glitch happen where it took all the cars I unlocked in the story and made them all b class for online
man pantha ya hair is wild bro absolutely glorious 😁🤣long time no see man sorry it's ME Killjoy😁
it feels that it was a mistake on the coding having a . in the wrong place and causing that problem but i bet that Criterion will fix it ASAP
Nah they'll fix it at the end of January 😂😂
if you flutter the gas without redlining, it will continue to gain speed past top
911 porsche cabriolet doesn't beat acceleration but tuned towards grip will smoke it every time.
Yup most broken B car I have encountered in game. Hit the dash quick after the second encounter 🥶
Mad respect for takin the L.
LMAO, that's nothing some prick entered an A class playlist with the ***Pagani Huayra BC*** and blitzed us (Oh my salty tears won't stop).
B classes are so fun driving the classic skyline kinds seems slightly op for its class XD
B rank , people use this car its such bs. ran into people using this all last night
If you want an actually good B-class car without bullying other people it's the Acura RSX-S 2004
first time I saw this car, I thought for sure I was against a hacker
Had to deal with that when trying to grind challenges that deal with B class races :/
I bought the custom instead and did the car build and then realised that this B teir doesnt work with the custom 😭
The 488 pista in heat is the second car that has constant power it always deliverys power at any range of rpm and that's why it can beat the 911 rsr
I have beaten the rsr 3 times with the 488
Then the F1 came out and had also constant power
Yo pantsss, when's it gonna be ur next GT7 video/livestream? Many legendary modern cars have been added since last you've played the game.
This can also be done on the beetle right ? I keep getting beat by this Ferarri and the beetle…
Thanks for another vid...I have played all the NFSs, and I love Unbound so much, but allowing cars like the Pista to be in lower classes as you say "Should be illegal", and B class is a fave class. There is literally no point racing against it and it ruins the game. I could easily afford a Pista, but its wrong. I hope to god they sort this in the March update. Peace out.
I've had a pagani in A+ going to look for other cars were this cheese applys
You can also do this with the Lamborghini Murci too
3:47-4:07 BoP introduced in NFS unbound
I just realize there is pedestrian in game
Can’t do this no more
Another Problem is the online party. You only can create a lobby of 4 people, which is Kinda sad in my opinion. Also if you invite your party only to a playlist, it says 4/8... i mean.. why?