Ultimately this conversation is entirely about free will and living with the consequences that come with it. When Loki brushes aside the timekeeper dogma, he outright asks Mobius himself. "How do *you* choose?" It's not the timekeepers doing the pruning. The hunters are the ones who do. They can use the timekeepers as a scapegoat all they want but at the end of the day, the hunters are the ones going out into the field and making those choices. And Mobius responds with another simple answer: If he doesn't, more people get hurt. There is no comfort, there is no healing. Scar tissue. Mobius has to live with the psychological trauma - his burden. That's what it means to have free will. It means to live with the consequences of your actions, good or bad, and it's ultimately what Loki sacrifices himself for. As the god of mischief. Of chaos. And finally, time itself.
And that is the lesson the show implies heavily but never outright comes out and says. Like when He Who Remains says "I make the hard choices, so I get the big chair." seemingly flippant. But when he talks about why he wanted to leave the job, and S1 Loki says "Why? you have all that power, all that freedom?" And that was the point I remember talking to my TV saying. No,Loki, he isn't free, in fact he is the most imprisoned. Because the job. Someone MUST ALWAYS be there to do the job. It MUST BE OCCUPIED, For all time...Always. WIthout fail, or fault. Like the Flying Dutchman from POTC, It must ALWAYS have a captain. The same thing here, it can never be without someone for any moment, any length of time. For that's all that is needed to make everything undone. This is why the TVA's motto is: "For all time, always." It's not a promise of dedication, its a warning of what will happen if they don't.
@@AgentExeideranother thing is the TVA always deleted the timelines,which is like restricting the flow of branches,but Loki held all the timelines letting them grow like a tree,means giving them freedom to grow however they like,good or bad
@@dragodraco7511 and instead of carrying the burden of destroying so many timelines, he carries the burden of all the infinite atrocities and injustices that happen on them, tying back into Mobius's words. Is it better than obliteration? In most cases, yes. Still, when there's a universe where the Snap is never reversed, or like the Infinity Ultron one from What If..., or any universe slowly dying to an incursion - all that suffering is still Loki's burden now. Even if its a better outcome than pruning, it still hurts.
@@alextrill1746 thats what means to have a balance The TVA never worked or the existence of the whole multiverse never worked as good or bad as in morality,it meant to sustain existence as a whole,to prevent the destruction of whole.Loki just did the job by not letting timelines destroy,and to sustain the multiverse,by letting each and every timeline grow
@@alextrill1746 Whats even worse is we know he's aware of everything happening in every timeline he's holding, so not only would he know those things are happening, he may vary well have no choice but to bear witness to them as well. It's one thing to do something like press a button and launch a nuke at a city you've probably never heard of and probably would have never gone to, knowing what you've just done, but there's at least some distance there, it's another to be forced to watch everything up to and after the impact of the bomb you fired, every fearful person, every crying infant, every stampede as they try to get away, every person trying to hunker down and praying to any god that might be out there to save them, seeing the people be consumed by the blast, the bevistation it causes, and watching the aftermath and the suffering you ultimately inflicted on them as many will slowly and painfully die. Thats basically what he may have to live with for all eternity, the only comfort is he also witnesses the good there is.
Owen Wilson killed in this. This dialogue was so well written. He just needed to get this out of his chest, he didn't care with who. That's why he told that to Loki. And in the end it shaped our boy's decision. 10/10
I really liked the fsct that Mobius never mentioned that he was the hunter in the story but loki still realized. After so much yime spent together he instantly knew that mobius was talking about himself
i loved that scene. Man i wish the MCU wouldnt be fallen apart so much, but they just keep releasing shit that nobody really cares about, loki is an exception tho along with few other
I cried in this scene, amazing actors, flawless soundtrack, the look on both of their faces and Tom looks like he's really living that moment, he's not an actor, he's really there, I watch it once a month this scene, I appreciated it so much, like the finale of episode 4 when the Timeline explodes, epic and emotional
My absolute favorite scene of this series. I keep watching it. Mobius is such a sincere character. He doesn't hesitate to give Loki the benefit of the doubt. Stand out performances by Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson.
I'm happy Wilson got to play a more serious role. It's always so nice when actors who mainly take roles in certain genres show they're still great in others. Owen Wilson in Loki, Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems.
And after this he chose his BURDEN to be at the end of timeline and see himself become god of time........ Mobious was right there's no comfort WE CHOOSE OUR BURDEN
This is the kind of writing and acting Disney need to prioritize. This episode of Loki was more compelling than anything Disney has done in years. I really hope they got it together for Deadpool and are getting it together for Daredevil.
"Most purpose,is more burden than glory and trust me you will never wanna be the one who avoid it because you can t live with the burden" "the hard thing to do was the thing that have to be done and for hard i mean impossible" "no Theres no comfort,you just gotta choose your burden"
❤i love how Mobius is always so compassionate and respectful. He refers to Loki as "Loki" or "friend" instead of "the variant" or "cosmic mistake." Frigga calls Loki by name but Odin said "the prisoner." Hearing the story of the 8 yr old boy reminds me of Mobius' real life with his sons. And then he's kind of like a father figure to Loki. Reminded him of them in a way. Super sweet😊
You see, if a society don't want carry any burden, it will turn out to be a heartless , selfish society, only focus on your need and desire, not other. If we want to be a kind person among the society like we help people who need, we cheer people up who under depress, we already carry PART of their burden. We no need to carry full burden of other unless you are his parent or his life partner. We just do our part so that other people will be blessed.
I don't know how many times I watch the last episode of loki season 2 (at least 50 times) I've listened to it so many times that I even memorized the lines, but it's so good. These are lines that really penetrate life.
My theory is TVA Mobuis was going to prune one of his variant son (the boy swimming with his bother). Mobuis loves to jet ski at the lake😢😢😢 Loki heard this story and gave his friend TVA Mobuis "a" happy ending, watching his variant with his sons 😢😢😢 And loki probably relived rewind this conversation with Mobuis a hundred times before he was ready to let go. Mobuis is Loki's only real true friend who ever really really cared for him😢 Growing up thor and his band of merrymen bullied him, which explained why loki is so messed up in his head. Then a stranger like Mobuis becomes loki's "brother" and best friend.
I cried in this scene, amazing actors, flawless soundtrack, the look on both of their faces and Tom looks like he's really living that moment, he's not an actor, he's really there, I watch it once a month this scene, I appreciated it so much, like the finale of episode 4 when the Timeline explodes, epic and emotional
The last quote about burden, I am gonna frame it somewhere on my house. 😢 Just like everyday life, you just choose what form of suffers you felt like taking, to get from here to there.
That's just stupid, toxic, and self-defeating. Your thought process limits what men can do instead of breaking fast those limits. An utter disgrace to manhood.
Maybe timekeepers should do their own dirty laundry instead of saddling hunters with scar tissue?. Scar tissue doesn't develop unless an injury occurs. These hunters are doing a job they were never meant to do, being burdened by injury, precisely because the timekeepers were too weak to take on the burden. Like when a parent has a kid but expects the child to care for them rather than they caring for the child. Think about it.
I remember reading a theory that stated the likely kid variant would be Dr doom, because in the comics he lives within relative distance of the Black Sea, also being responsible for 5,000 lives lost? That’s a big one.
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I like when Loki asks for help, Mobius doesn’t brush it off.
I am not sure but i feel like mobius understood that loki was time traveling here, and he just went with it
@@yusfiroyeah he knew when he stole him from the timeline too
He said it himself - Mobius has a thing for saving things that are broken..
"Most purpose, is more burden than glory, there is no comfort, you just choose your burden"
-reality of life
Ultimately this conversation is entirely about free will and living with the consequences that come with it. When Loki brushes aside the timekeeper dogma, he outright asks Mobius himself. "How do *you* choose?" It's not the timekeepers doing the pruning. The hunters are the ones who do. They can use the timekeepers as a scapegoat all they want but at the end of the day, the hunters are the ones going out into the field and making those choices. And Mobius responds with another simple answer: If he doesn't, more people get hurt. There is no comfort, there is no healing. Scar tissue. Mobius has to live with the psychological trauma - his burden. That's what it means to have free will. It means to live with the consequences of your actions, good or bad, and it's ultimately what Loki sacrifices himself for. As the god of mischief. Of chaos. And finally, time itself.
And that is the lesson the show implies heavily but never outright comes out and says. Like when He Who Remains says "I make the hard choices, so I get the big chair." seemingly flippant. But when he talks about why he wanted to leave the job, and S1 Loki says "Why? you have all that power, all that freedom?" And that was the point I remember talking to my TV saying.
No,Loki, he isn't free, in fact he is the most imprisoned. Because the job. Someone MUST ALWAYS be there to do the job. It MUST BE OCCUPIED, For all time...Always. WIthout fail, or fault. Like the Flying Dutchman from POTC, It must ALWAYS have a captain. The same thing here, it can never be without someone for any moment, any length of time. For that's all that is needed to make everything undone.
This is why the TVA's motto is: "For all time, always." It's not a promise of dedication, its a warning of what will happen if they don't.
@@AgentExeideranother thing is the TVA always deleted the timelines,which is like restricting the flow of branches,but Loki held all the timelines letting them grow like a tree,means giving them freedom to grow however they like,good or bad
@@dragodraco7511 and instead of carrying the burden of destroying so many timelines, he carries the burden of all the infinite atrocities and injustices that happen on them, tying back into Mobius's words. Is it better than obliteration? In most cases, yes. Still, when there's a universe where the Snap is never reversed, or like the Infinity Ultron one from What If..., or any universe slowly dying to an incursion - all that suffering is still Loki's burden now. Even if its a better outcome than pruning, it still hurts.
@@alextrill1746 thats what means to have a balance
The TVA never worked or the existence of the whole multiverse never worked as good or bad as in morality,it meant to sustain existence as a whole,to prevent the destruction of whole.Loki just did the job by not letting timelines destroy,and to sustain the multiverse,by letting each and every timeline grow
@@alextrill1746 Whats even worse is we know he's aware of everything happening in every timeline he's holding, so not only would he know those things are happening, he may vary well have no choice but to bear witness to them as well.
It's one thing to do something like press a button and launch a nuke at a city you've probably never heard of and probably would have never gone to, knowing what you've just done, but there's at least some distance there, it's another to be forced to watch everything up to and after the impact of the bomb you fired, every fearful person, every crying infant, every stampede as they try to get away, every person trying to hunker down and praying to any god that might be out there to save them, seeing the people be consumed by the blast, the bevistation it causes, and watching the aftermath and the suffering you ultimately inflicted on them as many will slowly and painfully die.
Thats basically what he may have to live with for all eternity, the only comfort is he also witnesses the good there is.
ı've been looking for this clip for a very long time. Most of people didnt appreciate this scene much. ıt was great
One of the best scenes in the entire MCU imo
my personal favourite scene from this episode
And yet op had to ruin it with retarded editing
Agreed best scene in the show@@hazman5528
Owen Wilson killed in this. This dialogue was so well written. He just needed to get this out of his chest, he didn't care with who. That's why he told that to Loki. And in the end it shaped our boy's decision. 10/10
I really liked the fsct that Mobius never mentioned that he was the hunter in the story but loki still realized. After so much yime spent together he instantly knew that mobius was talking about himself
It is also a painful and relatable scene for us individuals. The humanity in this scene is so impeccable.
i loved that scene. Man i wish the MCU wouldnt be fallen apart so much, but they just keep releasing shit that nobody really cares about, loki is an exception tho along with few other
@@Nekk0lasLoki is one of the few gems post-endgame
I cried in this scene, amazing actors, flawless soundtrack, the look on both of their faces and Tom looks like he's really living that moment, he's not an actor, he's really there, I watch it once a month this scene, I appreciated it so much, like the finale of episode 4 when the Timeline explodes, epic and emotional
"Most purpose, is more burden than glory"
"Theres no comfort, you just gotta choose your burden"
These lines almost make me tear up for some reason.
same, i've watched this scene 50 times
Relatable af
When marvel gets serious, they know how to do it and it’s beautiful
The true moral of power and responsibility
"And trust me you never wanna be the guy who avoids it cause you can't live with the burden" - Always gets me .... always...
My absolute favorite scene of this series. I keep watching it. Mobius is such a sincere character. He doesn't hesitate to give Loki the benefit of the doubt. Stand out performances by Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson.
I'm happy Wilson got to play a more serious role. It's always so nice when actors who mainly take roles in certain genres show they're still great in others. Owen Wilson in Loki, Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems.
Most purpose is more burden than glory. There is no comfort, you just chose your burden. - Mobius
And after this he chose his BURDEN to be at the end of timeline and see himself become god of time........ Mobious was right there's no comfort WE CHOOSE OUR BURDEN
This is the kind of writing and acting Disney need to prioritize. This episode of Loki was more compelling than anything Disney has done in years. I really hope they got it together for Deadpool and are getting it together for Daredevil.
Not two men felling in love ...
Those bull shit
@@prudent23 what?! I think you’re reading too much into Loki and Mobius’ friendship.
This episode strongly reminded me of the original ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion. It is mostly talking and thinking. No crazy boss fight.
@@prudent23 Whoops, someone’s feeling a little bothered
This is so real, this is the reality of life; there is no comfort , you just choose your burden!
But that's how we live, we have to make our own life and choices/free will and live with the burden of our choices
Loki has the best character arc in all of Marvel.
No wonder He Who Remains kept wiping their memories. Scar tissue can only hold so much trauma and guilt.
Best scene in the entire MCU! Yes, even better than Portals.
agreed ... Classic Marvel at its peak 💓
The two guys who directed this are behind Born Again
Can't wait to see how they handle Matt Murdock
Its the hand shake at the end that always gets me emotional
When Complex and Many kicks in at the end. Chillssss
exactly man
The acting here is phenomenal 🏆🫡😢
"Most purpose,is more burden than glory and trust me you will never wanna be the one who avoid it because you can t live with the burden"
"the hard thing to do was the thing that have to be done and for hard i mean impossible"
"no Theres no comfort,you just gotta choose your burden"
❤i love how Mobius is always so compassionate and respectful. He refers to Loki as "Loki" or "friend" instead of "the variant" or "cosmic mistake." Frigga calls Loki by name but Odin said "the prisoner." Hearing the story of the 8 yr old boy reminds me of Mobius' real life with his sons. And then he's kind of like a father figure to Loki. Reminded him of them in a way. Super sweet😊
You see, if a society don't want carry any burden, it will turn out to be a heartless , selfish society, only focus on your need and desire, not other. If we want to be a kind person among the society like we help people who need, we cheer people up who under depress, we already carry PART of their burden. We no need to carry full burden of other unless you are his parent or his life partner. We just do our part so that other people will be blessed.
I choose one myself so its up to me to not fuck things up
I truly can watch this 100 times and not get tired
What a wonderful scene… the acting is top notch!
Powerful scene.
I don't know how many times I watch the last episode of loki season 2 (at least 50 times)
I've listened to it so many times that I even memorized the lines, but it's so good.
These are lines that really penetrate life.
My theory is TVA Mobuis was going to prune one of his variant son (the boy swimming with his bother). Mobuis loves to jet ski at the lake😢😢😢 Loki heard this story and gave his friend TVA Mobuis "a" happy ending, watching his variant with his sons 😢😢😢
And loki probably relived rewind this conversation with Mobuis a hundred times before he was ready to let go. Mobuis is Loki's only real true friend who ever really really cared for him😢
Growing up thor and his band of merrymen bullied him, which explained why loki is so messed up in his head. Then a stranger like Mobuis becomes loki's "brother" and best friend.
Scar tissue. All there is to it...
Best Scene in Both Seasons.
I cried in this scene, amazing actors, flawless soundtrack, the look on both of their faces and Tom looks like he's really living that moment, he's not an actor, he's really there, I watch it once a month this scene, I appreciated it so much, like the finale of episode 4 when the Timeline explodes, epic and emotional
4:02 saddest moment in loki 😭😭
A reminder of a time when Marvel was an undisputed master of storytelling…
This aired less than a year ago. Loki was also considered the exception to otherwise bad story writing in other Marvel shows and movies.
@@jatsko3113 basically, everything past end game, with exceptions to Spider-Man movies and Guardians 3, has been garbage.
Thank you for uploading this scene 🙏
One of the greatest scenes in mcu
Loki dusted people without the infinity stones. Loki is now the most powerful mcu
this part hasnt left my brain since it aired i rewatch every so often and it still hits the same🥲
This is just so true and real 💯
Burden of wisdom
The last quote about burden, I am gonna frame it somewhere on my house. 😢 Just like everyday life, you just choose what form of suffers you felt like taking, to get from here to there.
That's men's life, there is no comfort for us, we just chose our burden 👊🏼
That's just stupid, toxic, and self-defeating. Your thought process limits what men can do instead of breaking fast those limits. An utter disgrace to manhood.
This scene perfectly sums up Across the Spider Verse
Gosh, I love that.
Beautiful
I have absolutely no context so the ending of the scene was fucking wild
I see similarities from No Way Home:
8 year old boy - Spider Man
TVA - Daily Bugle
Renslayer - Jameson
Where was the Mobius figure?
how do u live with the burden....SCAR TISSUE..SO POWERFUL
god please stand with me
WHAT IF THE VARIANT WAS MOBIUS' SON??????????? AND THOUGH MOBIUS DIDN'T KNOW THAT, HE FELT SOMETHING AND THAT'S WHY HE HESITATED.
3:56
Did anyone else notice that at 3:58 this image looks similar to a Pink Floyd album cover? not sure which one though
Wish You Were Here
Choose your burden what does it mean and how does it affect us in life
Subscriptionto,from,etc worked. And Marvel TVA worked.
The two kids, was it another Loki variant? Loki and his brother?
The 2 kids Where Loki And Thor 😢
Owen wilson killed this role
Who is the hunter who didnt kill the child and who are those 2 brothers?
I need to know what song plays at the end
the song is called “Complex and Many” by Natalie Holt
@@MarveXEditz Thank you so much!
@@MarveXEditzdo you know the theme that plays before that one?
@@simonvicenteriosperez1050 the song right before “Complex and Many” is “Fail-Safe” by Natalie Holt
Maybe timekeepers should do their own dirty laundry instead of saddling hunters with scar tissue?. Scar tissue doesn't develop unless an injury occurs. These hunters are doing a job they were never meant to do, being burdened by injury, precisely because the timekeepers were too weak to take on the burden.
Like when a parent has a kid but expects the child to care for them rather than they caring for the child. Think about it.
Boss and employees could be a better comparison imo
Erm… the Timekeepers weren’t a real thing.
0:58
What if the kid he couldn't eliminate It was a kid loki variant
Probably was
I remember reading a theory that stated the likely kid variant would be Dr doom, because in the comics he lives within relative distance of the Black Sea, also being responsible for 5,000 lives lost? That’s a big one.
I'm thinking young Kang.
There is no much difference between renslayer and thanos
Tbh,whole TVA and thanos
I wonder who he is talking about
Thor and Loki 😢
I think this scene in particular makes you truly understand the true idea behind islam
I don't like this scene, because Mobius still has this passive aggressive tone to his voice, like he is talking to Loki like a toddler.