"From Elvin Jones to to J Dilla. The Legendary Nate Smith is bringing the fire." (This was posted for sharing with friends. I don't own rights on this.)
Math Ias The mic is just having a hard time processing the hi hat. Hat frequencies often cut through and distort on low quality recordings and can sound weird as hell.
To anyone still wondering what he does, I pulled the audio into my DAW to check for myself. The kick is on the 1 and 3. The snare on the 2 and 4 are pre-shifted by 1/32. (Some thought that they were quintuplets, but those would be too much) Also every second hi-hat is pre-shifted by 1/32. He also playes the pre-shifted hi-hat not nearly as loud, which helps the feel of the groove. So since the snares are pre-shifted, it feels like the groove speeds up, but then because the distance between the snare and the second hi-hat is normal (1/8th note, but still pre-shifted) it now takes 1/32 longer for the kick to hit again and thus creates this dragging effect.
I saw this dude a few years ago at the Bluewhale in LA (which tragically shut down during COVID). I sat on a milk crate just to the right of the drum set because the place was packet. Best seat in the house. Insane drummer
I enjoy the influence Dilla's legacy has had on drummers since he checked outta town. The "unquantized" feeling of that "drunken" beat feel is awesome, and so it is also awesome to see drummers interpret Dilla as he played those grooves with his fingers on his MPC 3000, humanizing it.
allright i think i figured out what the hell he's doing. in the beginning, he's playing a 4/4 beat but with quintuplets. so every count is divided into 5 quintuplets instead of 4 sixteenth notes. What he does now is, instead of playing the snare on the 2 and the 4, he plays them óne quintuplet earlier, so on the fifth quintuplet of the 1st and 3rd count. This puts you off because you're tricked into thinking he plays them on the 2 and the 4, making it sound like he's playing a delayed 1 or some shit like that. after that he slowly moves the snare back to the 2 and 4. really cool groove, i've never heard anything like this before.
i dont think thats it either. i probably explained my idea in a very weird way. we're saying almost the same thing except i think now you're missing 1 sixteenth note after the snare. so the kick is still on the 1 and the snare is still on the 5th sixteenth, but i think it's a 10/8 groove and not a 9/8 as you're describing it.
in my understanding on the crazy kick pattern part. its just all displacement. Putting the kick on a 32nd note place. The counting is in 4/4 1e&a . First putting the kick on the count 1, but its not literally on the count 1 but in the 32nd note of the count 1. To understand better my point. Subdivide the sixteenth note(1e&a) into eight 32nd notes. Lets say this is the representation of the eight 32nd notes: 12345678 (1 is 1. 3 is E. 5 is &. 7 is A. (1E&A)) The 32nd note kick is place in 2. The tempo is I think at 90-94 bpm which is also fast and that does the trick into kind of a rushed or dragged groove.
This has got to the wildest drum grooving I have ever seen. What makes it so wild to me is that the reference point of time seems to morph like mid-phrase or mid-section or something. It’s as if Christopher Nolan made the movie Tenet into a drum groove.
Nothing Nate does groovewise ever surprises me. Dude is literally superhuman when it comes to groove. Clyde and Jabo are up in heaven smiling on this cat!!!
Dope. Best groove drummer, most relevant to current music too. It's enjoyable as music and not just drummy shit. There's too many drummers on TH-cam and not enough grooves.
He’s definitely up there. Solid groove and some pretty nasty chops too. But in terms of groove strictly speaking I wouldn’t put him above or even in the same category as the all-time groove legends like Steve Jordan, Gaad, JJ Johnson. Needless to say though I agree with you 1000% on most drummers today needing more focus on groove
The sense of release when he finally goes to three subdivisions is euphoric. Would have liked the rest of the song or more info about the gig for a search term
For those wondering I experimented with some midi drums and was able to notate it. numbers = quintuplet subdivisions 0 = kick S = snare x = hi hat x/x = time signature [ 12345 12345 12345 123456 *repeat* 21/20[ x x x x [ 0 S If you try to count it in 4/4 you will find it almost works but the groove is extended a little bit. That extension is 1 quintuplet *edit* Thats only the first groove
Some of my favorite producers will have a beat they created play in between tracks on their albums, namely Pete Rock, dj premier, and quest love. It's a nice transition, especially if the two tracks have a different feel or flow. This beat right here reminds me of that. Sounds like something quest love would throw in between tracks on a roots album. Very nice.
I thought at the beginning it was a video loop or some kind of pieces of footage glued together to match the beat. To my surprise, this was actually played live at the spot... amazing timing.
The reason he is moving like that is cause he is trying to feel that swing in the beat while saying in time. When keeping time has been drilled into you so much that it literally becomes muscle memory to do so, playing ''offbeat'' is like holding your breath underwater, while trying to fight the urge to come up for air. It is NOT in reverse, or sped up.
That's a beautiful sounding beat. Love the Avenue he takes reminds me of drumming bill bruford would lay down into a groove. their thought process is similar in which they approach the groove. So cool
I watch this every day and try to convince myself that it is simultaneously in forward and reverse. His body movement is screaming reverse but the cymbals don't lie
Reversed the vid (though visuals didn't translate), for anyone thinking this video is in reverse. Definitely isn't - in reverse it sounds weird but still pretty cool. I've uploaded the vid on my channel, don't think I can link it in youtube comments?
normally whenever drummers fuck with weird subdivisions or polyrhythms or whatever else I don’t find it particularly interesting but this beat is so alien and beautiful. it’s like a dream
Good drummers can play with time inside of time
and none of its possible without other musicians that can hold it together and not fall off while you do it.
@Killenmachine05 0ć
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musicians*
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When people say you're dragging, but you actually found a new dimension.
lol man what
Lol Bro, this commenter is a true intellectual 🧐
But only if you stay consistent
"Not my tempo."
Haha yes
I tried playing this beat over "Sweet Home Alabama" at a bar gig. Didn't go over too well.
David Moadel - but the white people were still dancing to a fucked up beat, in their heads... haha:) ... just kidding, but... not really
😂
David Moadel : TH-cam comment of the year!
LOL thank you good sir
😂😂😂😂😂
the keyboardist is having the time of his life
Isn't he the guy from Snarky Puppy?
@@iaial0 no
@blastdude89 you got me dying rn
@@iaial0 welcome to the world! There are a LOT, I mean A WHOLE LOT things to explore
@@aelic112 thank you very much! I bet this is a very nice place!
To anyone saying this is reversed: you have no idea what a reversed drum sounds like.
Federico Lucchi so what is it ? Weird
Math Ias The mic is just having a hard time processing the hi hat. Hat frequencies often cut through and distort on low quality recordings and can sound weird as hell.
@@mathias841 its just an improper microphone along with how hard he’s swingin.
Pink Floyd has a few songs using reversed recording of drums (for example echoes, sheep)
Its overuse of noise gates I think
I think if you showed jazz pioneers this video, they'd be really proud of where music went.
depends on the pioneer
This is the highest compliment I think anyone could give. Couldn't agree more!
To anyone still wondering what he does, I pulled the audio into my DAW to check for myself.
The kick is on the 1 and 3.
The snare on the 2 and 4 are pre-shifted by 1/32. (Some thought that they were quintuplets, but those would be too much)
Also every second hi-hat is pre-shifted by 1/32. He also playes the pre-shifted hi-hat not nearly as loud, which helps the feel of the groove.
So since the snares are pre-shifted, it feels like the groove speeds up, but then because the distance between the snare and the second hi-hat is normal (1/8th note, but still pre-shifted) it now takes 1/32 longer for the kick to hit again and thus creates this dragging effect.
love pulling it into the DAW. Often with Lars, then repost!
Why would that be desirable, the beat doesn’t groove and instead feels wrong
@@steve6767 u haven't musiced enough
@@steve6767 kinda the point
Hats off to breaking down this piece of music
In a paradoxical way tho I think you're missing the point
I went from having no idea who this guy is to wanting to listen to every track he's ever played drums on in about 15 seconds.
Yep, just found out about this guy today and now it's 3:30am and I'm still here.
On it.
Still going ?
please listen to The Fearless Flyers
I saw this dude a few years ago at the Bluewhale in LA (which tragically shut down during COVID). I sat on a milk crate just to the right of the drum set because the place was packet. Best seat in the house. Insane drummer
I enjoy the influence Dilla's legacy has had on drummers since he checked outta town.
The "unquantized" feeling of that "drunken" beat feel is awesome, and so it is also awesome to see drummers interpret Dilla as he played those grooves with his fingers on his MPC 3000, humanizing it.
allright i think i figured out what the hell he's doing.
in the beginning, he's playing a 4/4 beat but with quintuplets. so every count is divided into 5 quintuplets instead of 4 sixteenth notes. What he does now is, instead of playing the snare on the 2 and the 4, he plays them óne quintuplet earlier, so on the fifth quintuplet of the 1st and 3rd count. This puts you off because you're tricked into thinking he plays them on the 2 and the 4, making it sound like he's playing a delayed 1 or some shit like that.
after that he slowly moves the snare back to the 2 and 4.
really cool groove, i've never heard anything like this before.
The Milkman yawn
just tryna help m8
i dont think thats it either. i probably explained my idea in a very weird way. we're saying almost the same thing except i think now you're missing 1 sixteenth note after the snare. so the kick is still on the 1 and the snare is still on the 5th sixteenth, but i think it's a 10/8 groove and not a 9/8 as you're describing it.
in my understanding on the crazy kick pattern part. its just all displacement. Putting the kick on a 32nd note place. The counting is in 4/4 1e&a . First putting the kick on the count 1, but its not literally on the count 1 but in the 32nd note of the count 1. To understand better my point. Subdivide the sixteenth note(1e&a) into eight 32nd notes. Lets say this is the representation of the eight 32nd notes: 12345678 (1 is 1. 3 is E. 5 is &. 7 is A. (1E&A))
The 32nd note kick is place in 2.
The tempo is I think at 90-94 bpm which is also fast and that does the trick into kind of a rushed or dragged groove.
Nothing changes in the backbeat. Its in 2 and 4
This is the kinda beat you think of in your head but can't play in real life
🤣🤣
There's enough cheese on that for a years worth of pizza.
This has got to the wildest drum grooving I have ever seen. What makes it so wild to me is that the reference point of time seems to morph like mid-phrase or mid-section or something. It’s as if Christopher Nolan made the movie Tenet into a drum groove.
I LOVE TENET OMGGGGG
Straight up J Dilla drum groove💯
Nothing Nate does groovewise ever surprises me. Dude is literally superhuman when it comes to groove. Clyde and Jabo are up in heaven smiling on this cat!!!
Dope. Best groove drummer, most relevant to current music too. It's enjoyable as music and not just drummy shit. There's too many drummers on TH-cam and not enough grooves.
THIS COMMENT.
💯
He’s definitely up there. Solid groove and some pretty nasty chops too. But in terms of groove strictly speaking I wouldn’t put him above or even in the same category as the all-time groove legends like Steve Jordan, Gaad, JJ Johnson. Needless to say though I agree with you 1000% on most drummers today needing more focus on groove
Best?? Not even close. Look up Steve Gadd for reference on what best looks like
Why isn't there more..... I'll pay for the whole video.
this
me too¡¡
Sound like ya panties wet
pleas
Rightyyyyyy
All of the clocks in my house just broke. Nate has killed time.
woulda made sungazer proud
This guy has an excellent sense of timing to just play around it...
Are you sure? you didn’t notice nothing wrong?
The limb independence he displays is astounding.
Its because its black and white , turn the color on and it sounds fine.
00:00 to 00:11 he was in the outer limits of rhythm. Then he returned at 00:12 after a hi hat slap. This is beyond dope. Indeed.
honestly, for the first few seconds I thought the video was backwards.
fucking insane. Love when he sneaks the back beat back in at the end
The sense of release when he finally goes to three subdivisions is euphoric. Would have liked the rest of the song or more info about the gig for a search term
Respect for keyboardist, good accompaniment, bravo!
Don't let the grey hair fool you. Nate is actually a young man. The grey hair is from all the interdimensional time travel..... Sarah Conner !?!....
anofi berry thanks for sharing.
anofi berry i
Best comments EVER!!🤣🤣
#Everydaystrangers
For those wondering I experimented with some midi drums and was able to notate it.
numbers = quintuplet subdivisions 0 = kick S = snare x = hi hat x/x = time signature
[ 12345 12345 12345 123456 *repeat*
21/20[ x x x x
[ 0 S
If you try to count it in 4/4 you will find it almost works but the groove is extended a little bit. That extension is 1 quintuplet
*edit* Thats only the first groove
Some of my favorite producers will have a beat they created play in between tracks on their albums, namely Pete Rock, dj premier, and quest love. It's a nice transition, especially if the two tracks have a different feel or flow. This beat right here reminds me of that. Sounds like something quest love would throw in between tracks on a roots album. Very nice.
It's the Dilla beat/feel, quest love talks about it a a lot, especially when he was recording with D'Angelo.
Yeah. Questo used to call it the drunken master groove. He discussed it on the Redbull masterclass when talking about Dilla and Voodoo album
I thought at the beginning it was a video loop or some kind of pieces of footage glued together to match the beat. To my surprise, this was actually played live at the spot... amazing timing.
He put some real stank on it
Absolutely sickening!
The reason he is moving like that is cause he is trying to feel that swing in the beat while saying in time. When keeping time has been drilled into you so much that it literally becomes muscle memory to do so, playing ''offbeat'' is like holding your breath underwater, while trying to fight the urge to come up for air. It is NOT in reverse, or sped up.
offbeat in quotation marks for all the music theory geeks ''well no actually this i-"
You sir nailed it 👍
That's a beautiful sounding beat. Love the Avenue he takes reminds me of drumming bill bruford would lay down into a groove. their thought process is similar in which they approach the groove. So cool
Very nice innertime...
Had to listen to that shit a second time lord he’s grooving
Nate Smith Is The Ace Of Aces
Love to see this guy jam out with Coldplay. Really feel they could push his playing to the next level.
U wot m8?
>Coldplay
>Next level
bruh
Good bait mate, 8.5/10
People listen to Coldplay and voted for the nazis. YOU. CANT. TRUST. PEOPLE. P
I was sure this video was reversed until he hit the cymbal at 0:33 That's just crazy, man. Awesome playing.
If you were 30sec for sure, then I 'm not sure what music you "do", Anton ... :/
This guy is going crazy on the drums, can't stop listening to this
Awesome time displacement. Pure rudimentary mastery. The EL emental. Bam. 🎵💚
jesus that glitch he got goin on is solid as hell
damn
Que haces escuchando al maldito nate smith pablito?
Pedrito sos baterista vos??? La ptmr choque de universos
this is pure
S O R C E R Y
That’s a fast tempo to be flowing back and forth like that..
73 dislikes for this level of musicianship can only mean 73 poor deaf (but not blind) people disliked it for lack of color.
Lets be honest: This is not your first time being here
That was so naturally psychedelic, love it.
Ye yeh
We out here struggling to play evenly spaced notes and Nate comes and does THIS
a true master of his craft
Fuck this guy is one of the most innovative players in the world at this point.
This new Madlib track is sick!
Just amazing... watched this a couple times to be sure!
I don't know why but i feel he would sound so good with a nujabes song
Dragging is just time traveling to a different plane of existence
This guy IS DRUMS
Just a quick guess:
"My impression is that the Beloved Elvin Jones has been one of his Mentored influences!" 🤗😎👍🏻❤️🙌🏻
If I could just get the high hat like that, I would happy, a beat which is like the sea
I came to this video and left with a headache, confused, and amazed.
I truly love this Man.
N.Smith make new Way on drums ! And his Time is very unique ! Thanks to be exist !!!!
That hat is so thiccc!
a l i a s t h i c c
Its clipping a phone mic.
Hypnotic.
Oh my goodness. Amazing
I listened to this beat and made sure I played it on Saturday at a gig and to complicate things I did it while eating some KFC 🍗. I'm the man!
Dang. And that end was groovin too.
Japanese rap artist use a dragging kinda of style a lot in their raps. Dragging it’s a whole new style it self and very underrated
The ending. Dear god.
the time between him hitting the hat and closing the hat is so small that it sounds like its glitching, incredible
It sounds as if the hi-hat was in reverse, because it is clipping at times, but this is completely legit and played live...
I watch this every day and try to convince myself that it is simultaneously in forward and reverse. His body movement is screaming reverse but the cymbals don't lie
He deserves an ebony statue in his honor for this video alone
*harvey mason entered the room*
On an absolute untouchable level
Need more please. First part sounds like quintuplets- kick on 1, snare on 3. It’s not just “a feel thing”. That shit is mathematical af. Incredible.
This guy is insane! I saw him play with victor wooten!
0:00 This man went into the matrix with that feel 🤦🏾♂️🔥
This is rythm on another level
Sick, June Lee may be needed
So it's okay to drag a bit, as long as you catch up
For the first 10 seconds I thought this video was on a loop.
This beat will give you whiplash
Paradox: the more quantized you try to be -then shorter your frases become!
god i wish this video were at least 5 seconds longer
My man out here inventing his own time signature
I feel like he went backwards and then forwards again thru the history of jazz drums in 1 minute
Sounds like he's playing in reverse, so talented.
Song is kinda turned inside out the way it's played.
Nate Smith is the best drummer of our age
If Tenet was a drummer.
Filling in the blanks one step at a time
Reversed the vid (though visuals didn't translate), for anyone thinking this video is in reverse.
Definitely isn't - in reverse it sounds weird but still pretty cool.
I've uploaded the vid on my channel, don't think I can link it in youtube comments?
Toby Cameron Hooper you can link it, why wouldn’t you be able to
you reversed but it doesn't sound much weirder
Oh! Okay! This groove is nutty! Time to get back to the kit.
Maaaaannnn. Best groove I've seen on yt in long while!!!!
That type thing will get ppl every time
Idk anything about drums but I know that this sounds eerie and otherworldly af.
mb try this _Rahsaan Roland Kirk - Ain't No Sunshine (Bill Withers Cover)_
Superb beat , addictive listening 😀
That was the ph intro back in the day
I don’t think I have ever seen a man vibing do hard
If there was a Yoda for drums, you’d be him😎
The first 10 seconds I thought it was a gif in loop. Crazy...
normally whenever drummers fuck with weird subdivisions or polyrhythms or whatever else I don’t find it particularly interesting but this beat is so alien and beautiful. it’s like a dream
It actually took time for me to understand this was real with the desync, the way is it filmed and the black and white effect