Comparison with a good LT230 centre differential and a bad one!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @jamescaron6465
    @jamescaron6465 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    class...is in session. pay close attention and you'll learn something

  • @RussTNails-fw9ds
    @RussTNails-fw9ds ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very common to find frozen or seized hi and low diff lock levers in landys, due to owners never using them😮

  • @AngusAbbott-qf8xm
    @AngusAbbott-qf8xm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m pleased that you took the time to follow up your last lt230 video 👍🏼

  • @davidbrodie5044
    @davidbrodie5044 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really interesting, thanks.

  • @richardlister1737
    @richardlister1737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two comments (not related to this video…but please bear with me…):
    1. The day I noticed that my injector pump is leaking between the pump body and the distributor head (and I do my under bonnet checks pretty much weekly) was the same day you posted a video about how to replace the offending o-ring (pretty sure you haven’t covered that before). I always reckoned you as a very clever bloke, but prescience takes that to a whole new level!
    2. Today I received the timing kit. To my delight, the 300Tdi flywheel pin (the one I need) is already spring loaded. Someone in China is watching your videos. Be afraid!

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      About time ! Mine had no spring loading, so you had to fanny about turning the crank and trying to fit the timing pin!
      Maybe mine was a Friday afternoon one and the spring was missing?
      I think I used a Biro spring in the end...

    • @richardlister1737
      @richardlister1737 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BritannicaRestorations Haha…exactly what I had in mind!

  • @harveysmith100
    @harveysmith100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I try to remember to run low range once a month just for a few hundred yards, (have you seen the price of diesel) just to keep everything working OK.

  • @SiCrewe
    @SiCrewe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if anybody's selling replacement diff's on an exchange basis?
    Obviously, it'd need some specialised tooling, and matching shims, so it's probably not the sort of thing you'd be able to do for a one-off, but you'd think it'd be worth it for somebody like Ashcrofts to set themselves up to do it.

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      An ATB is £345. Probably cost more to re machine an item that could go wrong at any time!

  • @GregPalmer2
    @GregPalmer2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet,my ATB l put in a few years ago,l couldn't turn when compared to the old one. The ATB it's not going to be a problem if l don't lock it in. It wasn't a bad price compared to buying the old type.😊

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      ATB's are the way to go!!
      £450 for after market,
      £700 for a LR one,
      £345 for an Ashcroft one
      No-brainer in my opinion!

    • @thelaughingprophet2275
      @thelaughingprophet2275 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this an LSD like centre diff?

  • @iceman9678
    @iceman9678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see the diff between the two!

  • @jameskerr5756
    @jameskerr5756 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a difference between a goodun and a badun. My high/Low and diff lock linkage was seized through lack of use when I got the vehicle, It's freed off now but the little linkage piece broke and I made a new one out of 6mm round bar.

  • @r0tekz
    @r0tekz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you done a video of physical removing and refitting an LT230? I'd like to fit Ashcroft but worry about the difficulty in a home garage.

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are difficult as they are heavy, and the weight is not distributed evenly. It is heavier on the right-hand side
      I have a transmission jack and adaptor specifically for the LT230 which makes life easy, but you could knock something up with wood to fit on a trolley jack and support the weight.
      Getting them off is easy - it is getting them back on that is the difficult bit as you have to get the spline in without damaging the seal

    • @r0tekz
      @r0tekz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BritannicaRestorations Thanks for the info. It would be best then if I pay a Landy garage. As a newbie, I'd probably mess it up.

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe a wise move - they are 60/70 kg = or 11 stone in old money!

  • @lazy-rabbitz
    @lazy-rabbitz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On a different note.
    The plastic clip for the clutch fork. How do you attach that? Impossible….. been running without it for a while, but would like to see if there is an easy solution.

  • @lauriekee10
    @lauriekee10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use low range for reversing my trailers, saves riding the clutch and affords more control at low speed

  • @thelaughingprophet2275
    @thelaughingprophet2275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My LT95A transfer is making bronze sheen at each oil change. Changing oil every 2500 km at the moment, no leaks. Seems like too much deflection at rear output shaft also. But no silver sheen or chunks in the oil, which is very clean apart from the bronze sheen. I’m fairly certain centre diff thrust washers are the source, question is, will they rapidly wear now that they have started to….?

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be

    • @thelaughingprophet2275
      @thelaughingprophet2275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BritannicaRestorations I went down some sandy tracks this afternoon…engaged the CDL and drove until I got to the gravel, switched off the CDL, but the light stayed on for a good 3 or 4 minutes after switching off…I was about to stop and try check what was up when the light went off… I’m guessing it’s good to exercise the unit from time to time, but hoping that the diaphragm hasn’t perished….they are made from a special rubber know as unobtainium.

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes you have to dip the clutch in order for them to disengage - they are on a parallel spline with a sliding collar - sometimes it gets stuck!

  • @julianbordas7317
    @julianbordas7317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will a 6 ton shop press be enough to push out the bearings and gears?

  • @googlegok9637
    @googlegok9637 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disco II have no diff lock, but traction control ? will that save your diff?

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      Early ones did have dif lock, mid-years had, but no linkage, then they didn't have anything, last years did

  • @djb341
    @djb341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you get an ATB for the Borg Warner?

  • @dariuszrad4559
    @dariuszrad4559 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mike mechanizm roznicowy z jedną ośką nierozkręcany to do czego?

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ponieważ Land Rovery mają stały napęd 4x4, w skrzyni rozdzielczej musi być coś, co umożliwi niewielką zmianę prędkości osi podczas pokonywania zakrętów itp.

  • @Ottislloyd781
    @Ottislloyd781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello! Great video! I'm your fellow Canadian from Alberta who purchased a 2001 Defender 110. What is the best source to get parts for this machines? Thank you in advance for the answer.

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to supply Britpart stuff as I had an account, but their shipping was way too expensive, so now I get all my parts from LR Direct as they pack as tight as possible without damage, and recognize that we pay for volume and weight for overseas shipping.
      They ship with DHL - they have reasonable costs and are quite quick - If I order Monday I will have parts by Wednesday / Thursday

    • @Ottislloyd781
      @Ottislloyd781 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BritannicaRestorations Thank you for the reply. I also use LR direct. I found them very organised and the prices are very reasonable. I rebuilt my r380 transmission and transfer case using your videos as a guide. Keep up the good work 👍.

  • @ferretboy221
    @ferretboy221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wait till you get to the later Puma LT230 units where they have a cheaper pressed together Diff unit that seems to develop slop within 5 seconds!!

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did a leaking LT23O on a Puma last year and didn't notice any difference in the diff.
      But for £350 get an ATB from Ashcroft and all the problems go away (until the next one…)
      LoL!

    • @ferretboy221
      @ferretboy221 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ill have to find a picture of one, i think it was the usual end of run we are out of parts LR
      thing same as the 10AS immobiliser units.@@BritannicaRestorations

    • @ferretboy221
      @ferretboy221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10785/normal_IMG_20190623_145142.jpg

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! Can't find any reference to them!

    • @ferretboy221
      @ferretboy221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed they dont seem to have bothered updating the parts catalogues etc - this is one of the late on end of production changes that got thrown at defenders End-of-life, just like the lucas 10AS immobilisers - they ran out of them and had a cheap chinese copy made from 2013 onwards that breaks and corrupts its own chips constantly if exposed to high or low voltages. Its a big enough problem that a guy in Bournemouth uk re-manufactures new units using better quality parts.
      @@BritannicaRestorations

  • @thechod
    @thechod ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike does oil type make a difference to diff wear as there is many a debate online wether to use gear oil or atf in an lt230

  • @kinnellian
    @kinnellian ปีที่แล้ว

    I assume there was wear on both halves of the differential casing
    Also; is the scored wear on the casing an issue, or was there far worse wear in the gears/ bearings/ shims, and that is the primary issue.
    Just wondering, because I know I can source a replacement gear kit, (gears/shims/bearings) and I know I can source a complete differential assembly - but not individual cases.
    And one of these things is a helluva lot more spendy than the other!
    I could machine/polish any scoring out the casings for example (possibly that might need taken up by shimming)
    Tl;dr
    If the casings are showing wear, is it pointless to just fit a replacement gear kit?
    Asking for the perma-skint 😁👍
    *edit for spelling

    • @BritannicaRestorations
      @BritannicaRestorations  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you mean by the 'casings', the actual diff unit, they are machined and balanced together.
      The gears seem to be fine as they are hardened, and they eat into the softer housing
      Personally I would not waste my time on trying to repair them - there are plenty of used as they were in Defenders, discoveries and RR's
      These diffs wear internally as shown, and where the rear bearing fits - if the bearing is sloppy - it is scrap

    • @kinnellian
      @kinnellian ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BritannicaRestorations Yup, dunno what I'd call them , diff housing, assembly, couplings?
      Anyway, understood, cheers 👍

  • @marksingleton7199
    @marksingleton7199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh, for xray eyes.

  • @harveysmith100
    @harveysmith100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like people are changing the oil after 150'000 miles because they are having problems with the box. Surprisingly it doesn't solve the problems so they send it to you!

  • @stevedangerous1
    @stevedangerous1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And the nuber of times lads have said to me (there are other types of human being) what ya doin...ya dont yer diff lock fot this...