Gen Z Doesn't Watch Marvel, Star Wars, Doctor Who or Disney.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ค. 2024
- Gen Z isn't watching Disney Plus, according to Samba TV. They're not here for Marvel, Star Wars or Doctor Who. So will Disney's attempt to kick older fans to the curb to chase new fans pay off or not?
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@ClownfishTV I find this actually a good thing, considering how much WOKE has been implementing in these companies and corporations. If it isn't clear by now, the reason that quote "They", wanted to attract to younger audience is because that is the BEST way to spread their agenda, their ideology. This is why children schools are now dumping LGBTQAI or IA....plus......whatever it's getting Ridiculous! lol Anyway, it disgust me and thank goodness, Parents are waking up to this and have called out about the trouble it brings. Some of them are homeschooling their kids because of it. That's sad, but I can't blame them.
Doctor who is probably even worse as it is tampered with woke propaganda and what not. The Newer seasons I mean. Peace
They got rid of and insulted a decades long loyal fan base for an imaginary base that never existed. So brave.
modern audiences am i right?
And stunning
and groundbreaking.
Yep and Gen Z are just like Gen X they have no problem with people being Gay but they have no want to watch it lil Girls still like Barbies and Horses Lil boys still like Male Heros fighting like Star Wars was for 40 years who'd have thought it
The Message for the "modern audiences"....
I agree with you.
They don't give a damn about making good stories anymore.
And it's a fluke when we get good stories from them in this day and age.
If you want good stories, look to the past or make them yourself.
I am Gen Z. Can confirm. Why pay to watch that garbage when there’s so much free entertainment out on the web?
Same here
That's what I've been saying, Gen z is ultimately just like everyone else that came before them and they want quality entertainment like the rest of us, that's why they're going back to older stuff
I'm betting a good chunk of friends watch anime.
Nephiews are 19-21 Neice 16 they will watch 80s 90s they will watch classic Star Wars They talk to there mates if its Message free like MEG or King Zilla they go to the Pictures but they have no intrest in the new stuff turns out WOKE turned the Modern Audiance OFF
Hell there's better stories made over 40 to 60 plus years. Some of the best movies alone were made back in 80's which as far as I'm concerned was the absoutle peak of creativity Hollywood was able to put out. The last truly great thing Hollywood was able to give the world was Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy back in the early 2000s. It's been nothing but a slow decline from then on.
Gen Z wants the same thing that Millinials, Gen X, Boomers and everybody else want. Good stories. That's why Gen Z and everyone else is rejecting new media and going back to old shows, movies, and video games.....There is no Modern Audience.
Im more of going back to what I grew up with as a kid from 2004-2015
Not in the way Hollywood imagines, at least. Modern pop culture fans may be less willing to suspend their disbelief than previous generations, they tend to think more critically and expect more complexity, nuance, continuity, and character development, but those are *my* observations.
sure seems that way; wonder how the big time execs will make sense of this?
@@realjoemavroOnly when the media isn't hitting some preference. It's like those Wattpad adapted novels. They had none of those qualities but they had a Twilight effect on fans so it didn't matter if the story was meh.
To be honest I’m borderline gen z but technically am just a young millennial. But solid gen z seems to be dominated by rule of cool mentality. The media can be shit look cool and they just drool all over it. It’s quite annoying as someone that wants a good story and rule of cool.
they turned entertainment into propaganda in hopes of converting Gen-Z ironically, Gen-Z doesn't want their crap either
It's more like mimicking genZ's rhetoric and genz doesn't care beyond thinking they're "fixing" everything.
People can tell when they're being pandered to. They don't like it. It's inauthentic.
@@chrisfoxwell4128 A small very loud minority of Gen Z. As a Gen Z, a lot of don't have the woke ideologies the media is pushing.
@chrisfoxwell4128 Don't judge an entire generation by the attention seeking psychos on the internet. When it comes to entertainment, they're like any other generation. They can spot pandering from a mile away, they don't like crap, and they have unfettered access to nearly all the media of every generation before them.
All the guilt tripping in the world can't get most people to like cringe inducing crap.
They assumed that children were stupid, but it turns out only they were.
Disney single handedly destroyed 4 franchises Starwars, Marvel, Doctor Who and Muppets this has to be studied.
DOCTOR WHO was killed at the last half of the Capaldi era of the series. However, the nail in the coffin came with the Timeless Children arc. Now it's a stinking rotting corpse being kept alive by an unhinged RTD and Disney. It won't be long before it is off the air. And unlike the 2005 reboot, it won't be coming back. When it goes off the air, it will be 50 to 100 years before the idea of DOCTOR WHO is entertained.
And here comes "Company Man" to explore the Black Hole that Boob of Iger steered Disney into.
You act like they didnt kill off all the Disney classics as well. Dont short change them, go watch the Lil Mermaid
And you can add Pixar and Disney Animation to that list as well.
@@LucLightWolf121 Doctor Who fell apart completely in the Jodie era, with the change of Showrunner, sure it was going down during the Capaldi era, but at least Moffet was trying to keep his politics out of the show or at least make it entertaining and that era had one of the best eps, where the Doctor is in a time loop and it was the rare ocason where the Doctor had no compaion and it was just the Doctor, thou I was disapointed by the following ep, how it suddenly turned into a ep about "Saving Clara" when we already said goodbye to her in face the Raven!!
It's hilarious because all this slop is made specifically to cater to them, and even they don't want to watch it.
They are all on TikTok
It is really catered to the creators, lots of self inserts
WRONG. It was never "catered to them", the entire purpose was to delegitimize and deconstruct and disrespect everything that came before itself.
These people dont make things FOR themselves, they make things to act AGAINST you. At the end of the day the Leftists will hate the product either way; they're only making things to make Right Wingers mad even if they hate it themselves.
That's why they're closing it down in the US I wonder if Gen Z will start to use VPNs @@chiquita683
@@bluebird3281 Exactly this. It's created by millenials that do self inserts and believe they are cool the fellows kids... It's like the Buscemi meme...
I am gen z, and I think the problem is that they assume that all of us are gullible, stupid/silly, and super progressive. A gen z person can like marvel, doctor who, etc without being catered to
Sounds like you were raised right. Good on you.
I will never understand what makes people ”progressive”? Must be bad childhood or abuse.
One big problem being, if you as a gen Z person liked the old marvel, Star wars, or Doctor who, and don't like the new s*** they've been pedaling. They've been calling you a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, bigot for having complaints along with "the toxic white middle aged males they didn't need as a fan base".
Antagonizing your most devoted fan base, for wanting the product you're producing to show some respect to the products they've loved, really is an unwise and wrong-headed idea.
@@realjoemavroAs another Gen Z, most of us are not the woke hyper progressive people you see in the media. It is a small very loud minority of the generation who is hyper focused by the media.
@@alieunjie8459 Honestly I think its millennials more than us lol, they started this whole mess.
As a Gen Z all the shows I was interested in have already been cancelled or defiled beyond all recognition. Now I spend my free time watching anime and reading manga and occasionally rewatching the good shows from my child hood like Avatar TLAB (Legends of Korra can dive off the cliffhanger it left), Doctor Who (Capaldi was the Doctor's regen), and Teen Titans (Go can fall into a pit)
I’m also gen z and I revisit shows like regular show, SpongeBob, Adventure time, and start getting into some anime
I'm not Gen Z, I'm a Millennial, but same. All the stuff I liked is either over or totally corrupted beyond recognition and I'm just done with new stuff. I only watch old stuff now.
An anime fan too! You made the right decision.
You give me hope for the future, OP.
The 12th Doctor is still regenerating.
Imagine your company shifting focus to people that don't even support the business and then wondering why it is losing billions.
It's a mystery!!
Imagine being an old white man and telling all your customers that old white men are racist and then wondering why they no longer buy your products
They know, it's just another destruction of cultural icons and heroes. It's a Marxist tactic but the end goal isn't communism, it's Neo-feudalism.
Stunning and brainless
but diversity!
Most of these shows are written by adults with arrested developement who write the characters not as relatable but as themselves still stuck in a teenage body and mindset with how they WISH they could run the world. It's more or less wish fulfilment for someone else and you're expected to accept your place within the world of someone who has a massive case of main character syndrome.
My son is on the border of Gen Z and Alpha (born 2011), and this is mostly accurate. He does like the old Star Wars I've raised him on, but wants nothing to do with the new stuff. But no Marvel, No Disney, and No Dr. Who even watches that show anymore?
This is key.
Your kids like StarvWars because you liked it and shared it with them.
Disney chased off their long-time fans, who now no longer share this stuff with their kids. Kids don't have fond memories of watching these shows with their parents.
There is no audience anymore.
The only people watching Doctor Who are the people that made it.
I’m gen Z, and I’ve only seen one person from my generation who watched that show. But that was 10 years ago. Now it’s kinda forgotten.
All the marvel shows that gen z emotionally bonded to (Ironman, Captain America the first avenger, Spectacular Spider man, etc.) have had their characters replaced. They're not even targeting the core gen z demographic (~2002 - 2007) because if they were they wouldn't be replacing characters like Tony Stark, Steve rogers and Peter Parker. Growing up and seeing the characters you love being actively phased out and disrespected just makes you want to forget about the entire brand.
Dr. Who sounds like a kids movie I don't think anyone older than 14 is gonna watch that 😂
Why would Gen Z watch any of this crap? They’re not dumb, mostly, and to think that they’ll fall for the “message” is insulting.
Disney really bets on everyone being just stupid consumers. People are waking up.
The Great Reset finally came for the entertainment industry.
Just not in the way they thought it would.
As I say too many times, actions have consequences.
And the customer is right, whether you like them or not.
Hard to deny there isn't a targeted destruction of classic ips and Fandoms etc with all this bs. Years ago they would of course corrected to not to under quick
They've got a policy of NOT "reinforcing gender stereotypes".
That means that masculine men are a problem (for their policy), as are feminine women.
This leads to weak ineffective (even effete) male characters, and overly masculine female characters...
During millennial's childhood they had the Disney renaissance. Gen Z grew up in the post-renaissance era so they don’t have as much nostalgia for the brand.
That's true. I grew up with 'Beauty & The Beast', 'The Little Mermaid', 'Aladdin' and 'The Lion King'. Great times and so magical for a kid.
They grew up with prime Pixar, MCU & hit shows on Disney Channel so I would have to disagree
@@JohnSmith-tl8pqHahaha those Disney Renaissance Movies were my chilhood. Really fortunate to be 90's Millenium
@@vp_wrld Very good point. It wasn't too long ago that Pixar was untouchable. Now they're untouchable in another sense. lmfao
FR like I grew up watching that on VHS but like it wasn't like the thing that made my summers.
I can confirm that Gen Z don't watch any of those anymore. My nephew is big on Warhammer right now & my niece is into Kpop. So yeah, they can suck it.
They look to other cultures because the ones here in the u.s suck.
mine are all watching old stuff turns out WOKE turned the Modern Audiance away
Just to let you know Warhammer looks at risk with recent controversies.
@@jaritime1406Do they understand what woke is and why it fails? The original Star wars are iconic.
Unfortunately Warhammer's going to be the next to fall. At least there are hundreds of good novels from the pre-woke era to dig into
They threw us away for a group that doesn’t want them
Facts. Plus, we’re the ones with the disposable income to buy the merch and toys and posters and to go see a really good SW, or Superman, or Batman movie multiple times. They’ve given us no good reason.
Its more a case the Modern Audiance HATES WOKE as much as Gen X the ones they need to show there Grand Kids there stuff BUT we do not trust them so will only put the OG classics on and Gen Z will will sit them in front of youtube. Disney keep making things for the Alphabet Mafia was a foolish move as only about 0.1% of 14% = Massive loses as the other 13.99% (Ones who adopt kids) want it family safe as we all do
The irony....
@@jaritime1406 The alphabet mafia don't tend to have a lot of kids to pass on a Disney tradition to.
Its also about how much they hate White people and the western society.
There was a time-tested formula that usually worked for long-running franchises. Parents, older siblings, etc. would share the good stuff from their youth to the next, thus expanding the audience. Trying to "replace" instead of expand was always a fools errand.
They destroyed the family unit...
so they destroyed their model.
@@Juan-os4hsbut in this instance it doesn’t really matter if it’s necessarily family but people in general like good entertaining art. Since it already exists, how do they expect to replace it with garbage no one likes? People will always recommend the good art they like to others and it will gain popularity through word of mouth. The garbage they push will never catch on.
Kids watch what older teens watch because that’s seen as trendy and ‘grown up’. That’s the way it’s always been and part of why Nintendo lost a huge chunk of sales with the GameCube as it appeared too ‘kiddish’.
If adults ain’t watching, kids ain’t watching either.
I suppose that's kind of fair but I did watch a lot of cartoons back in the day that my older brother hated. So I don't think this is 100% true but at the same time it could still explain a trend that is happening right now. It's possible a lot of teenagers and lot of children don't understand nor want to understand what kind of crap is going on in Disney IP so they're signing off or they're discovering older shows that are legitimately good and are still relevant in today's world despite their 30+ years of age.
While your right.. The Game Cubes Mario was cool
Your point, while true, would earn you a light white-gloved slap and a poke in the chest in polite society.
That intrepid little cube had a long list of bangers.
...no You're bitter...😢lol
It is true to an extent. I originally got into games because I'd watch my older sister play them. Meanwhile a lot of cartoons made in the 90s/early 2000s had just enough complex themes sprinkled into them where my parents would like them too. The parents tastes are often reflected in their children so you need to appeal to both.
I'd say Pre-Teens and Teens look at Young Adults, and young adults tend to be the trend setters - disposable income to spend, new, fresh, etc.
Right now, Gen Z are the young adults. Millenials were pushed into the 30s and 40s, and Gen Zs are in their 20s. Gen Alpha are the Teens and pre-teens.
Begs the question...who is watching it then...I'm GenX...and I don't watch that crap either...
A very select few, and bots.
Apparently, this "modern audience" they have been catering to is very small in number.
Who would have guessed?
Jounalists, Reviewers and that's pretty much it.
There is a reason why NONE of these shows have any good ratings. because noone but a handful is watching it and more then half of those people are Only watching it because its their job.
Its called cooking the books
Millennials. They are the ones that still buy into the whole DEI garbage propaganda.
No one does. That’s the problem.
I’m 22 years old and my teacher in high school pointed out why Star Wars sucked but also showed me Kathleen Kennedy so yeah and my teacher was a theatre director who understood storytelling
The original Star Wars did not suck.
@@moonpleiades99Did you even read what was written?..
So perhaps chasing off the old fan base and calling them a bunch of "toxic crybaby WWII bad guys" might have been a bad idea all along? Heck maybe even just basically destroying the legacies of many of these franchises in pursuit of a nonexistent modern audience was also a terrible idea in the end? Now if Disney's leadership would finally admit this and try to course correct, maybe they might be able to save face but then again I have a better chance of becoming the King of Norway.
Well said your highness 👑
@@Evaonk Great reply
Ppl refuse to admit target audiences exist. Peak mcu did appeal to wider group but they Peak mcu casual enjoyers left soon as it was bad. They didn't have the background of attachment like older fans
Why should they? No one else does at this point.
They treated Gen Z like an alien species. I have lost track of the amount of meetings I've had with Producers, where they shoot down good ideas and propose genuinely terrible ideas - ideas they freely admit are terrible, but follow up with "But the Tik Tok Generation will LOVE that rubbish!" - They have absolutely no respect for their target demographic. They make no effort to understand them, they make a surface level, sweeping assumption and then wonder why they can never appeal to that demographic.
My 30 year old daughter uses Netflix and TH-cam for her 4 year old daughter to watch. As far as I know, her daughter has never watched anything Disney. What’s weird is that when my daughter was little she lived and breathed Disney.
Disney is done now. I boycott disney
I have all the old Disney movies and shows I enjoyed on DVD for when my children are old enough. Pruchased second-hand off eBay. My toddlers love the classic Muppets. I'll never show them any of the new trash, and I'll never give Disney a cent.
Disney isn't what it used to be. All the creatives that really cared have all left and started their stuff elsewhere... if they kept their passion.
@2012sonora
There's no "chemtrials" CGI added to the scenes of skies in your physical copies. 😉
Gen Z is watching anime. Look at the traction of shows like JJK, and One Piece on social platforms. Essentially Western Companies have lost their connection with their audiences. And now they don’t have any future “nostalgia” projects they can use on Gen Z
Even anime isn't nearly as cool as it was in the 80s and 90s. It all seems to follow a tired formula.
Dragonball is the best show ever and it's a millenial 90s show.
@@adampierce7468 yeah, among gen z, series like NGE and Naruto are still the most popular ones, although there are definitely many more creative shows being made than in north america. Asobi Asobase and Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai: Tensai-tachi no Ren'ai Zunōsen come to mind.
My two sons are Gen Z and I can confirm that they are more interested in Anime, Manga and playing video games. They don’t watch any TV unless we’ve got it on and it’s something they’re interested in like Fallout or Clarkson’s Farm because they find Jeremy Clarkson hilarious from Top Gear and The Grand Tour. They do watch a lot of TH-cam, mostly gaming streams. Thankfully neither of them are interested in TikTok phew!
They used to be interested in the MCU but they lost interest after Endgame/Spiderman No Way Home.
They used to be interested in Star Wars but they lost interest after The Last Jedi.
They used to be interested in Doctor Who but they checked out during the Jodie Whittaker era.
They’re not stupid, they want good quality entertainment just like the rest of us.
My boy is 16, there is absolutely no reason for him to tune into Disney+. It's either for kids or adults who act like kids. We have physical copies of SW ep. 4,5, and 6, and Marvel phases 4 and under. That's all we need.
If your sons an xmen fan i would recommend xmen 97 (not saying buy disney+ for it) but it suprised me
Bluey accounts for half of Disney+ viewership.
Gen Z here and the answer is simply because most stuff being put out nowadays suck.
I’m a 26 year old gen z and I don’t watch any of that trash
do you count as genz?
If he's 26 he's probably born in 1998 or 1997 so yes he is Gen Z put it like this if you experience Blockbuster when you were a kid your your gen z did you grow up watching the original Ben 10 generator Rex or any of the Disney TV shows like sweet Life of Zack and Cody
@@D0NU75Millennials are middle aged in 2024. So what else would 26 years old be?
Me neither
@@D0NU75 Gen Z are 2000s kids, Milennials are 90s kids.
Gee... I wonder why?
Could it be the deconstruction of the heroes? The mantles being passed that lose meaning as it goes on? Assigning sexual orientation to clearly coded characters with years to back up? The lack of comics that back up characters as their movies are released? Multiverse plotlines that remove all stakes?
No... Clearly... It's the children who are wrong. 🤔
My daughter is Gen Z, born in 99. She watched all of it before it all went to shite. Then she stopped. Just like I did. Just like we all did. Gen Z is smart and can see this is all substandard shite.
We mostly just watch anime and old shows/movies now.
Disney forgot what made them successful. I loved Disney because my parents did, and so did theirs.
Kathleen Kennedy said, you know what? Fuck the old fans let's make Star Wars for the younger generation. So did Disney. And here we are.
"and no white men!"
My father introduced me to star wars. We have the whole thing on DVDs. I'm not going to show Disney star wars to mine
We could have told them this YEARS AGO.
We did. They just told us all to f&*% off. Not our fault if we listened.
Weird isn't? How no one for YEARS said a single word. If only someone did this crisis could of been averted...
Gen Z can’t afford rent, so how are they going to pay for a subscription service to all the content providers? The D+ business strategy was borked from the jump, and they STILL don’t get it. D+ most popular show is Bluey, their top demographic is 1 to 5 year olds. Which makes sense because they’re the Disney Channel.
Also, trying to appeal to the younger audience like they existed in a void is pure comedy.
Don't these corporate suits realize that if their PARENTS won't pay for your services then THEIR kids are not going to consume YOUR product?
It is the exact same thing with their theme parks, if you keep raising prices and lowering quality of services then the only people left are gonna be those childless Disney Adults, but they don't have big families with lots of kids like the average joe has, so you already lost the kids, because they won't grow up with the nostalgia for Disney like we and our parents generations had.
Meaning all your nostalgia bait will be useless for young people that have no nostalgia for your stuff.
it’s a domino effect, the parents, siblings, etc… would get the younger generation into these things. they cut the hose
They said it was MADE FOR a modern audience, they never technically said that modern audience actually watched it. Just that it was made for them. Like how during NHL Playoffs every single ESPN/TNT commercial is 98% black people who aren't watching hockey.
Modern audience living in So Cal and San Francisco perhaps? Definitely not Peoria.
All the "Modern Audience" watches it, turns out, that the M.A. is quite small, compared to the "general" or "common" audiences. 🤔
"Modern" audience = The author and their clique
@@Rezzanine
And claque-a group of persons hired to applaud an act or performer.
Rotten Tomatoes 🍅 used to be reliable, for a while, before Hollywood and other special interests (🔁) infiltrated and subverted it, that's the reference, standard, measurement and guage for the "Modern Audience."
I am a Millennial and I don't like Marvel, Star Wars, Dr. Who, or Disney
I used to like old Disney princess movies, but I never liked American comic shows or the ugly Disney remakes.
I'm part of gen Z, I used to watch Doctor Who, Marvel, Star Wars, etc. I don't watch any of them anymore
I’m a Millennial. I just lift weights, code, read, play video games, and watch comedians on TH-cam lol
But your generation has the Disney Adults tho
@@naomibelekof7254So, that doesn't mean we all like watching turds dry.
@@naomibelekof7254 But Disney beyond sucks now. I grew up on Disney back in the 90s and stopped watching anything Disney about a decade ago. If anything, the current Disney is blasphemy and violated everything we loved. And not just Disney, everything was ruined since.
Disney has lost every generation. Disney! I've got Disney Plus here! See, NOBODY cares.
No wonder they're going extinct. 🤣🤣
"For a modern audience"
🤣
In other words, Disney is targeting vulnerable young audience.
@@christophermichaelclarence6003 Yes, some of them are, but IMO, most of them are just chasing an audience that doesn't exist, and probably never will.
Quality matters in any generation. That is just nature, and you can not change it.
One day the world will look back on this era of film and TV in disbelief. Except for all us poor saps who had to live through it.
The problem is that the majority of people dont want the woke Disney that has happened. Disney changed for an audience that makes up 1 percent of the population. And their box office reflects that.
Disney and his minions completely lost it
One thing Disney didn’t realise was that by throwing away Gen X for some virtue signalling audience they were also throwing away the parents of Gen Z and Gen Alpha i.e. future consumers.
I grew up with Disney shows and merch alongside superheroes and Star Wars. My kids don’t follow any of that now and I probably inadvertently reinforced that leaning away.
I realise that I myself don’t count in Disney’s financial and marketing business equations. However, when there started to be thousands like me and my wife, well, it started to matter as the number kept growing.
I'm from gen z and I don't wanna watch those garbage movies and series. I decided to watch the old movies on dvds and blu ray again.
Nerdrotic, Gary said this years ago. Kids are not interested in boomer I.P.'s.
It is why Star Trek is finished and has become Lost in Space/Flash Gordon.
It depends on how well it's done... and whether it is "timeless".
For example, religion could be called a parent's IP... and that's been passed down for hundreds and even thousands of years.
Captain America, Batman and Superman, Wonder Woman... All go back to the 40's, IIRC... 80 years or so, passed down generation to generation.
Doctor Who... 60 years.
People aren't interested in old franchises being dragged out past their expiration dates. They want new franchises.
I’m Gen Z and I have no interest in Disney. They killed Star Wars. Disney’s problem is that 97% of the content on Disney+ is kids content.
Every 10 years, there is a new generation of adults, with new interests.
That, and the new writting for these shows is awful.
I have 3 kids, 11, 8 and 4. None of them watch any of this crap. I only let them watch those tom & jerry type cartoons, like that bear with the lemmings one and things of the type. I watch anything they watch, if I see a sliver of woke, I block it.
Tom & Jerry, isn't Disney, they come from the same era as Mickey & Bugs, but they are made by people who have FAR more creative talent than what Disney has today!!
your a good parent.
Controlled entertainment and access to the Internet will become the norm after the sheer damage of unfettered access to the web and uncurated propaganda and social programming is realized
@@PodreyJenkin138
then history just repeat itself. More you wish to control the more it will slip though your finger
you "let them" lmao they watch things behind your back all day and will continue to
There are two things that transcend every generation, from the Silent Generation to Generation Alpha, we're not stupid and we don't like being patronised.
Can confirm: my son is into DBZ and Roblox, my daughter is into Splatoon, Nintendo and Anime dress up games.
They'd have a ton in common with the 1990-2010 crowd. I lived on those Kiss dress up games and Kaoani/Blinkie makers back in the day. I loved Sailor Moon and Code Lyoko on Toonami as well.
DBZ is a millenial show but gen Z love it too.
@@teoleno4019 tekken is better
You know what my gen z kids watch? 2000s and 90s sitcoms, cause they’re not loaded down with THE MESSAGE. You know what we used to watch together? Marvel, Disney, Star Wars. Not anymore.
Of course they’re not, they rather watch what’s in social media like this, than to pay for garbage.
Gen Z has rejected WOKE the Modern Audiance have said FK NO there watching 80s 90s classics like Friends Star Wars 1-6 Marvel till End Game The Meg King vs Zilla but good luck getting them to go to a new Marvel Star Wars Disney movie they will tell you its just GAY they lost them
It isn't even that. It's badly written. The fact that gay isn't just a sexuality, it is the entire personality, for instance. Deadpool is done correctly in that he is bisexual, but it is something that comes up every now and again vs actively being his entire personality. His sexuality adds to the story and sometimes even the hijinks, but it isn't done all the time to the detriment of everything else. The characters and storylines being rolled out now are flat out garbage. It's so bad that actors and actresses are practically being tricked into roles, specifically Dakota Johnson and one other in Madame Web come to mind.
They lost everyone.
They forget that the younger audience is our children. My kids dislike the same things I dislike. I'm not conditioning my kids, I'm just instilling my values.
Most of Gen Z aren’t delusional out of touch corporate woke losers.
So no shock at all.
I had D+ just to rewatch old cartoons from Disney. (89 born)
But they either didnt upload everything or a lot were removed randomly, and later some movies.
Now it confusing too find anything and most stuff is gone, not for me.
So where's that modern audience again?
They're so modern, they're not even here yet! 😅
The modern audience prefers stuff that’s more wacky and silly, like battle for dream island by Jacknjelify.
@@Cubeytheawesome TH-cam certainly keeps pushing those shorts on me for some reason. Never even heard of it before. It's completely random.
@@TheLegendaryBillCipher that’s the point. It’s supposed to be random because they are talking objects.
As a GenXer I was done with Disney by the time I hit 12-13. After that I wanted to watch anime or normal movies. My friends were the same way. Nobody was at home on Sat night watching Disney shows, lol.
Funny, I figured gen z must have been this modern audience we hear so much about.
I have 29, 26, 19, 17, 15 year old kids. None of them watch Western movies or streaming shows. Some Game of Thrones, anime, Korean drama. Rest is gaming and socializing. My wife and I love movie theaters and streaming, have money to spend, but they are mostly chasing this phantom modern audience.
These franchises are family entertainment and when you stop catering to the family and start courting the cat ladies you lose audience. The way younger generations are introduced to this stuff is by the parents, you show your kids the stuff you liked and if the new stuffs worth watching you see it together but for a diverse range of reasons the makers have forgotten how to make family entertainment.
One thing that i think is also happening is, because companies like Disney are actively attacking and pushing away the long time fans of old IPs like Star Wars, some Gen Z kids see that and don't see the companies in a good light. They could be thinking "well if they treat their older fans like that, they might treat the new fans like that too sooner or later".
Edit: That wasn't explained very well, but you get what I'm trying to say, right?
makes sense to me. no one wants to follow an IP that has been deemed “lame” by OG fanbases. why wound i, as a gen z, want to get watch the new star wars content if all the life-long OG star wars fans (the people who supposedly love star wars the most) say it’s lame and not good?
I raised kids in last 1-10 years, they hardly ever watch TV shows, they are usually just on their phones watching 30 second to 1 minute videos. Young kids and teenagers have zero interest in goofy shows on Disney plus.
You mean to tell me that the "Modern Audience" they were catering to didn't actually exist?!
Nah they’re real. They just prefer cool stuff like BFDI and skateboards
They've lost the kids because they've pushed away the adults who would have passed on their love for these franchises to their children. I'll teach my kids to love the original Star Wars, Doctor Who up through part of Capaldi, and Avengers through Endgame, but we won't be watching any of the newer stuff together.
Gen X here...seen Disney destroy franchise after franchise,then insulted the older fans if we didn't like it,and surprise! The younger generation Disney ran after can't stand them either. What morons.
Gen X ain't really watching anymore too
Gen -X don't give a fcuk !!! Hell yeah-let's hear it for Gen-X,we the best gen !!!
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As a millenial myself (1996), can we really blame them for not being interested in watching the absolute non-sense and poor quality movies with horrible writing?
I don't pay for any of the streaming services and am mostly on TH-cam and Reddit.
Kids are into videogames and youtube. They do not care about movies. Especially nostalgia bait for an era that belongs to their parents and even grand parents.
I remember five or so years ago, Disney princesses were huge on facebook with Millennial/Zoomer cuspers. Disney had so much goodwill, and they squandered it!
It's not just Disney with this problem. Gen Z is staying away from a lot of the modern day produced media. So even they're seeing the woke nonsense all these companies are making & are staying clear.
But it's great to watch the younger folks re-discover classic shows & music.
Correction western produce media.
@@LarryBonson Another correction. Much of mainstream Western media.
I'm a Millennial, although nearly gen z, and I also don't watch, being a huge nerd, fan of the comics, read them way back too, but disney has been turning what used to be some of my favourite IPs into the worst of snoozefests, mostly unwatchable imo... It's not only Disney too, but Disney is probably the worst offender.
Take the built-in, generational audience already proven to spend billions not only on the IP but for each installment of the IP's.
Then cater to your own narcissistic ego while labeling it "modern audiences"
Go broke while blaming the original fans you so callously disregarded to begin with(repeat this step endlessly)
In the words of Tony Stank "Not a good plan"
Nice Civil War shout out.
My younger cousins are all into anime, which is awesome is we have more to relate to. I've been letting one borrow a lot of my old 3DS games too, introduced him to Yokai Watch and he got hooked! Then I let him know there's a tv series and manga. Just wait til I show him my old CoroCoro and Shonen volumes I got from Okinawa. Bunch of series they've never heard of. 😂
The original fans were like Gen X, and they don't have time with this because they are busy with their college age kids.
The original fans are gen x?? Really?? So those born in the 60s and 70s??? I thought 80s babies were fans of Disney, y'all gen x ers are fans of star wars
@@corymiller536 Yes Gen X is up to 1965 I believe.
@@A.I.Friends none of them we're watching Disney in the 90s, it was all xennials and millennials
Im Gen-Z, and I dont really use it, but if i do, it's for stuff from when i was younger, like Lilo and Stitch.
Gen Z recognizes quality, that's why they are watching older movies on Netflix, and ignoring the woke crap that disney is pumping out.
They also like the older games that don't have microtransactions, DLC, or ads. My little bitty cousin is borrowing my old Yokai Watch games, and he's hooked. The scary tunnel freaked him out tho. 😂
My kids are the oldest of gen Alpha, younger than gen Z.
They dont watch Disney stuff because its just not cool. Other children will mock you if you act like you like it. Its basically social poison.
What i have seen kids getting into is old shows. Star trek, godzilla, battle star Galactica.... stuff like that. Basically if its been off the air 20 years these younger kids are finding it and falling in love.
My daughter got a bunch of vintage star trek stuff for her birthday and all her friends were very in the loop on star trek.
My son called the MCU stupid Dad jokes and said it was weird stuff for adults not kids.
They should try Farscape. An amazing sci-fi TV shows from late 90s.
@@madjoe8622 yeah, if its streaming young kids are getting into it. Mine are 10, we know a lot of homes with kids of all ages that straight don't allow Disney or nickelodeon in the home. My sons friend dropped something the other day and said "did I do that?" In an urkle voice. Youths today do not consume modern TV and movies. They watch older stuff and TH-cam.
See if you can get your son into Beast Wars sometime.
Wait, not all gen alpha kids watch skibidi toilet?
Been saying this for a couple years now and it goes for Hollywood as a whole. It's f*cked, they've completely failed to win over the upcoming generations. The last half of gen Z and all of gen Alpha don't watch shows or movies. There was a study done last year and shows/movies didn't even crack the top 10 of things they do for entertainment, which was overwhelmingly TH-cam, video games and third was other social media, these three took up like %90 of the chart. And you can see it with your own eyes, people under 20 don't give a crap shows or movies.
Gen Alpha are the ones who still need their parents money to buy things. The earlier half of Gen Z are young adults.
My teenage granddaughters play video games online with their friends and watch TH-cam. It's rather rare for them to ask to see a movie. We have Netflix and Prime and they don't watch those - there's nothing that interests them. One of them asked to see Five Nights at Freddy's - that was the first film in like a year!
They need to find a Dragon Ball Z like series that appeals to gen Z.
America will never have Dragonball series of their own. They are too woke.
So I suppose this confirms what we have all suspected for a while now. These entertainment companies desecrate all of these movies, video games, TV shows, comic books etc and tell the older fan-bases to piss off just to chase after an audience that doesn't exist! Galaxy brain logic right there! Well, I guess companies like Disney, Marvel, Ubisoft and God knows how many others will have to pay the toll sooner or later! 😂👍
So where are these modern audiences? Maybe they like also like normal stuff.
My 13 year old daughter doesn't watch Disney at all. She has fond memories of Tangled, Frozen and Moana, but everything newer than that has been a BIG meh, and even disgust.
She's a fan of anime, Avatar the Last Airbender, FNAF, and surprisingly in the last week, The Good Place. She likes complicated lore, weird stuff, and jokes that range from fart jokes, sarcasm and long winded jokes. Disney doesn't do that.
You couldn’t take me away from reading Disney Adventure Magazines as a kid…Goodness, what happened?
My kids like 90’s sitcoms and Avatar.
My 10 year old son is really into the prequels and the Clone Wars because he loves the Lego sets.
Disney is a far cry from the stuff that use to come out when I was younger.(I’m 23) I’m going to for sure see Deadpool and Wolverine first Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman but I couldn’t care less about Disney’s antics at this point. The bigger they are, the harder they’ll fall.
In my experience that is true. My Gen-Z daughter enjoyed Guardians of the Galaxy but that’s it. She has no interest in SW, other Marvel movies, even Harry Potter.
21 year old, hardly ever watched any of these before. I've been watching anime ever since I was like 6 years old a bit late for that they should be thinking about their current fan-base and the kids their main fan base has. Disney has always done that but I guess they lost the plot.
I can say as a 18 Year old aka a Gen Z. I haven't been on Disney + since Werewolf by Night. I don't care about the MCU or mostly Marvel. I don't care about DC. I don't care about Doctor Who. The only thing I truly care about is Transformers. And that's saying something when my Dad took me to see the First Iron Man movie back in 2005. I think. Or he might have took me after I was old enough aka a few months old or more. Overall. I was there at the beginning. And now I'm abandoning the ship before it sinks
I've seen this with Disney Channel during the 2000's. They ignore, and alienate older viewers in favor of younger viewers. (Particularly, tween girls) This also happening with Disney's comics going from Gemstone to Boom Studios sounds similar. I want the old Disney. Not the 'All New, All Different Disney'.
Disney only seems to know how to pander and create shallow and half-hearted attempts at inclusion. Their stories have no depth or thoughtful themes or any replay value. You watch one Disney+ show and there is little reason to rewatch it.
Gen Z sees through all this empty pandering, clocks it as disingenuous and don't watch the shows or movies.
People have been saying this was the case for years but they were all hailed as red pillers, "man-babies" etc.