Fiat 124 Record Monza Exhaust Review
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- It's expensive, and rare, but is it worth it? I'll show it to you, put it on and offer my thoughts. Overall, I like it, and I think it's the best sounding rear exhaust you can buy for this car.
Our research says that no rear exhaust adds any power to this car, the restrictions are elsewhere, so it's my opinion that you should just buy the one you like the best in terms of sound and appearance.
I couldn't really capture the sound, and the dyno shop doesn't have good acoustics, please keep that in mind.
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Hey, it sounds great! Good video, Greg, thanks for sharing.
Hi Greg, thank's a lot for scharring all this info about the Fiat 124. Keep it up.
Great video Greg. The pipe sounds great!
I’m only here for the planes, and I know nothing about cars, but I still love your videos because they’re so well made.
just know that old honda engines do nothing but drink more oil then an rx-8 without an oil pressure limiter at 10k rpm with full 4 liters of oil in the tank (in rotary engines there no accual oil pan, its more of a tank realy) and DOHC is obviosly way better than SOHC plus 4A-GE is much better than 2JZ, even tho those Supra engines can handle 1000 bhp an the weeb powered 4A-GE has very few horse power (only 130, still not bad for 1587cc). But it is torque what your looking at in DOHCs, Silvia S13 may only had 180 bhp but if when going 80mph put in 5th and accelerated it would start shreding the tires if not ESC, and in Fiat Coupe with 2.0 20v turbo (it was an inline 5) you could pull of at any gear at any speed.
I was so confused at first - until I realised you were talking about the _new_ 124. I was looking at the exhaust and trying to remember my brother's '72 124 Sports and couldn't quite put the two together in my head. :-P
Very good, I like the new exoust. Thank you for upload.
Very impressive, Greg!
Sounds great Greg
Great video Greg 😀
Thanks Mikey.
Watched your video and immediately called to order the Record Monza. The dealer never heard of the part and struggled to order it for me. He says that it only fits the '17 and '18 models. I have a 2019, so I ordered it anyways. Hope it works out. Thanks for posting this
Sadly, the dealers don't have a lot of enthusiasm for these cars. I suggest calling Benson Fiat in South Carolina. They know these cars and will ship you the exhaust with no issues. That's what I did. By the way, I still love my Record Monza. I have grown more attached to it over time.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thanks again I was able to purchase the exhaust from my local dealer I found the part number in a Canadian catalog. This is really the way the Abarth should have always come stock. Do you know why the rest of the world seems to have the Record Monza stock but not here in the U.S.? Love my 124 even more now :)
I glad you got your part in a timely fashion.
looks good
I had three 124s back in the day. A '69, 1,448 cc Coupe' and two 2L Spiders. The Coupe was the faster and better handling car because it was so much lighter and stiffer. You could wind that sucker way to tight, but the 5 speed gearbox was well matched to the power curve. Then I bought a nice used Boss 429 Mustang and learned an entirely new definition of the word fast!!! Like 80 MPH faster than the 124s! And much quicker too!
To improve the sound on a standard Fiat 124 Soider, do you have to replace the mid pipe too. Or is the mid pipe on the Abarth and Fiat both the same?
I have seen standard 124s with the Record Monzas, so it will fit and improve the sound. I think the standard 124 normally has a resonator in the mid pipe and the Abarth does not. However I could be wrong and it's too cold outside right now for me to go and look.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Thanks for the quick reply. I might replace both while I get the chance.
Your voice is amazing.
Oh, thank you. I did work in radio at one time.
Greg do burbles or pops and bangs resonate better on this exhaust?
Good question, "better" is tough to quantify, but I think these options sound better with this exhaust.
Interesting that they weigh exactly the same. Car sounded great on the dyno!
Hi Bryan, thanks. I think it sounds a lot better on the real road. On the dyno there is a lot of noise from the dyno itself, tire noise, echoing and so on.
I love it! Have a 4c coupe and 124 spider abarth perfect duo! Still recommend this exhaust?
I do recommend it. The more I drive with it the more I like it.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles too loud? Too raspy? Better or worse to a 500 abarth?
I think it's just right, which is why I am keeping it on the car. I would say it's a little quieter in normal driving than a stock 500 Abarth, but about equal in volume when you get on it.
2" seems awfully small for the inlet pipe of a single exhaust. What is the diameter for the inlet on the stock exhaust?
What is the difference on the dyno? Most stock exhausts are efficient as is. Sound is important though. You should have included the stock sound for comparison.
The stock mid pipe which connects to the rear section is also 2", so going bigger wouldn't make much sense for a part that connects to the stock mid section. There is essentially zero difference on the dyno. Sorry I didn't include the stock sound.
" 2" seems awfully small " -- it's only a 1.4L turbo engine with less than 200hp after all! Many 200hp cars (e.g., Toyota 86) have only a 55mm (2.1") factory exhaust.
where on the P51 does this attach
It attaches just aft of the transducer rectifier.
I just wanna say your welcome if it wasnt for me working my ass off with john and reid to find this exhaust prior lol. I spent a month with them trying to find the correct part number and such
I am not sure who you, John, or Reid are, but in any case, Thank You. I appreciate your good work. I am going to guess that John in this case is John M. from Bensen Fiat, a good guy and good dealership.
Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles yes it is john m i am talking about. You said you purchased from benson fiat. Reid is their parts guy. I worked with them all through January to find the part number. For this exhaust to order it for my 124.
Man, I wish I had that much tread on my tires xD
Well, there is a story there. I normally run 215s on Evo Corse Wheels (which I LOVE). I put them on when the car was brand new, so the stock tires and wheels you see on the car in the video only have about 20 miles on them, and some dyno pulls. If you watch the video closely, you will figure out why I had to put the stock wheels and tires back on the car.
Hi Greg,
Could I ask how much you pay it for?
Current pricing is here: shopeurocompulsion.net/products/record-monza-exhaust-system-fiat-124-spider-abarth?_pos=2&_sid=2c861e657&_ss=r , I think they are out of stock everywhere. I'll find out today when they will be back in.
Would be nice to hear the before sound and the after installation sound for a comparison.
Good point.
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Where did you order it from and how much?
I got it from Bensen Fiat Alfa Romeo in Greer S.C. It was around 850 bucks.
How do you connect exhaust valve ?
It doesn't connect to anything, it just opens due to exhaust force against a spring.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles got you thanks a lot
Its got a nice rumble to it.
Thanks noided2k, I wish I could convey how nice it sounds on the road, it really is good in that regard.
I guess I’m old school, but same weight and performance? More value to put that money to driving school or track days.
I understand, it's not a mod for everyone, but I like the sound, so I'm keeping it on the car.
I love the dyno, who makes it?
Dimsport
Would this bolt onto a nd miata
I seriously doubt it, but I haven't tried.
WASH THE CAR MANNNN!!!
Have you been watching the weather in Tulsa? It's been too cold and wet to even work outside. Forget washing a car.
Bolt this up to my ‘68 Spyder?
I don't think so, but there are plenty of good options for the 68'
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Well, I really was just kidding! My ‘68 bit the dust long ago. But I was really fond of my 850 Spider.
Really enjoy your channel.
PS. For the money it cost to buy that Miata clone, you could buy a very nice used, '82-02, F body pony car, put a crate motor in it and gone well over 200 MPH. Corvette wheels and big tires let it pass the "fun" cars in any corner that is not too bumpy for the solid rear axle, at speeds that have no place on public roads. See pics of '97 Z-28s, then think 5-700+ HP in a car that does not weigh that much, if anything more than the new 124/Miata!
I think the Miata is a Fiat clone.
3400 pounds is 1600Kg, 500Kg or half a ton more than the Mazda/124.
You have no clue of what you're talking about.
Good luck cornering in a 60 year old american car...
mmmmmm, when does the V-8 Kick in?
LOL. Although I'm sure someone will put a V8 in it at some point. It can be done.
Where to buy?
The dealer.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Thanks so much!
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Do you think I can modify it to make it fit in an MX-5?
Yes, if it's the current generation then it's possible.
It can be against the law to bypass the muffler, in many states.
The 500 Abarth doesn't have a muffler at all, and it's legal in all 50 states.
because it is factory, not aftermarket.
Record Monza is factory. It's an option on the cars when new.
And don't even get me started on motorcycles.
Motorcycles have a lot less noise restrictions than cars......You can do pretty much anything with them, until you hit 85db.
Good straight pipes weigh about 8 lbs. Just sayin.
That's true. Of course we could go with a side exit and save even more weight. Then again, I weigh north of 230, so in terms of actual weight, I am the problem. Your overall point is valid however, and if I was building a full race car, the Record Monza would NOT be my first choice. I do think it's a great choice for a street and occasional track car.
and extremely loud. I'm sure my neighbors just love mine
not feeling it...
It's not for everyone, there are a lot of good exhaust systems for this car. Remus, Ragazzon for example. I should point out, that at this point, the only 124 to run in the 13's as the 1/4 mile runs an EC cross pipe and Record Monza.
Hey Greg did you hear about Pakistani Air force taking down 2 Indian jets(mig 21 and a Su 30) over the skies of Kashmir?
Yes, that's in the news over here.
Update. We are releasing the Indian pilot! Thank god!!
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Waste of money.
Not for me, I love it. It's the best sounding exhaust for these cars, and that brings me extra enjoyment every time I drive the car.